[00:30] sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r) <--- this command wants to fetch 850 megs? [01:54] kristian-aalborg, you're building the kernel, what'd you expect? :P I think that's approriate. [02:00] JackyAlcine: it wants X, a bunch of fonts, LaTeX... [02:00] Hmm, that's a bit odd. [02:01] this happens now and then... no biggie === Hellow is now known as collinp === _siick is now known as siick [04:23] any beginners here? [04:23] i still feel like a beginner even though i've been using ubuntu for 3 1/2 years [04:24] we are all beginners a something eh [04:24] i suppose so [04:25] Linux to myself about the same time using here as well, no windows history to be clouded with though lol.:) [04:25] everyone must be out, ubuntu channels are quiet tonight [04:25] my windows history is long ago and far away too [04:26] I have learned it after the open source its like playing pong [04:26] funny [04:26] W7 is not bad but what a hassle if your not a gamer or reallly need it. [04:27] after amnesia: the dark descent, pong sucks [04:27] i used vista for a few days, because i had to. haven't seen or tried 7 [04:28] bye for now [06:22] ok, so I've been playing around with ubuntu 10.10, and LOVE it!! just found some really cool desktop effects among others [06:22] was wondering if anyone else knew any really cool things I can play around with.... [06:27] yax51, you can play with conky, for example [06:29] conky is cool, although it doesn't display any GPU information, I've been using nvclock for that [06:31] plus with my oled daemon, I get all the sys monitoring stuff (CPU usage and temp, network traffic, email and IM alerts, Battery notification, music title, artist info via amarok, ect.) [06:32] if you have an oled I HIGHLY recommend this.... [10:15] morning all === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:42] hello. [14:43] nobody here? [14:55] i have ubuntu 9.04 on my laptop, and i couldn't write a dvd with any program.. [14:55] Also command line. [14:55] hey erdinc [14:56] what are you trying to write? [14:56] i would try and make sure its not something to do with codecs [14:57] and just try burning a data DVD [14:59] yes, i have alredy tried to wrie data dvd [14:59] erdinc: whats the error? [15:00] it just writes iso image on brasero [15:00] but i can't write cd or dvd or rw media [15:00] OK [15:00] do you get an error? [15:00] no [15:00] or do you not see the optical drive from the burner? [15:01] erdinc: ahh, it is writing the iso and not the files? [15:01] no [15:01] i can't write both, iso and the normal data files [15:01] ohh [15:02] i was going to suggest. Right click on the ISO image file and choose Write to Disc [15:02] i have tried cdrecord, brasero, dvdtools etc [15:02] ok, i try for you just now [15:02] im still not sure whats going on BUT [15:02] if you start the programs from the terminal [15:03] open terminal and type brasero [15:03] you *should* get some output there [15:03] that is a good idea. [15:03] ok. [15:03] potentially helpful trouble-shooting output [15:03] I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/root/.config/brasero/brasero.session" [15:04] i get this message on the console [15:04] erdinc: are you running it as root? [15:04] yes [15:04] with sudo [15:04] try as normal user [15:04] okay [15:05] same thing, brasero opened with gui [15:05] right [15:05] see if you can reproduce the failure you are experiencing [15:05] and check the terminal output [15:05] I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/root/.config/brasero/brasero.session" [15:06] no [15:06] not that [15:06] sorry [15:06] $ brasero [15:06] (brasero:5136): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.20.1/gobject/gsignal.c:2387: instance `0x984d628' has no handler with id `1507' [15:06] (brasero:5136): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.20.1/gobject/gsignal.c:2387: instance `0x984d628' has no handler with id `1508' [15:07] erdinc: im thinking those are OK [15:07] try the burn [15:07] wait [15:07] sorry. I meant [15:07] yes, i want to burn but [15:07] Are you logged in a root? [15:07] i don't want to a iso file :) [15:07] i want a real dvd :) [15:08] no i'm a normal user [15:08] erdinc: OK, choose whatever you want [15:08] ok [15:08] and read the error output [15:08] ok. [15:08] just a minute [15:09] erdinc: is it this simple? [15:09] go to 'project' [15:09] and choose 'new project' [15:09] and select project type [15:11] $ growisofs -dvd-compat -input-charset=ISO-8859-1 -Z /dev/sdc -R -J -pad "/home/erdinc/Desktop/interpol.mp3" [15:11] :-( unable to open64("/dev/sdc",O_RDONLY): No such file or directory [15:11] sdX are harddrives [15:11] ls /dev/scd* [15:12] erdinc: what is that from? [15:12] trying to burn interpol.mp3 as an audio disc? [15:12] scd is my dvdrom [15:12] no holstein [15:12] no [15:12] it's a data [15:12] it doesn't matter [15:12] scd != sdc [15:12] mp3 pdf, a directory [15:12] i can change it for you [15:13] ok geirha [15:13] ok geirha$ growisofs -dvd-compat -input-charset=ISO-8859-1 -Z /dev/scd -R -J -pad "/home/erdinc/Desktop/interpol.mp3" [15:13] :-( unable to open64("/dev/scd",O_RDONLY): No such file or directory [15:14] do you know a command which i can see my drives? [15:14] erdinc: Yes, /dev/scd does not exist, it'll be /dev/scd0 or /dev/scd1 etc. That's why I suggested you run ls /dev/scd* [15:14] /etc/fstab: static file system information. [15:14] # [15:14] # Use 'vol_id --uuid' to print the universally unique identifier for a [15:14] # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices [15:14] # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). [15:14] # [15:14] # [15:14] proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 [15:14] Also, /dev/dvd is probably a symlink to the correct device [15:14] # / was on /dev/sda1 during installation [15:14] UUID=efb43c84-e1b5-48bd-8fdb-25c8fe4644df / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [15:14] # /dev/sda6 was on /dev/sda7 during installation [15:14] UUID=c496955f-1d8b-4cbb-b87b-d00578047192 /dev/sda6 ext3 relatime 0 2 [15:14] # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation [15:14] UUID=875e2507-1f49-4785-b1a2-b3fc1dd3089a none swap sw 0 0 [15:15] /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 [15:15] erdinc: you're going to need to pastebin [15:15] ~ [15:15] ~ [15:15] ~ [15:15] okay, i see scd0 [15:15] and try [15:15] http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [15:15] $ growisofs -dvd-compat -input-charset=ISO-8859-1 -Z /dev/scd0 -R -J -pad "/home/erdinc/Desktop/interpol.mp3" [15:15] :-( /dev/scd0: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0 [15:15] what's pastebin? [15:15] its the thing you paste all that into [15:15] so you dont flood the channel like that ^^ [15:16] okay :) [15:16] :) [15:16] erdinc: Do you have more than one optical drives? [15:16] OR other media [15:16] http://paste.ubuntu.com/579304/ [15:17] no i don't have another devices and media [15:17] but it can't me [15:17] erdinc: i think changing media might be a good step [15:17] no [15:17] AH [15:17] ok [15:17] Well, you've probably burned something to the dvd you have in the drive right now. [15:17] erdinc: good luck to you :) [15:18] holstein thanks, but my english is not so good [15:18] and i can't find the rigth words [15:18] erdinc: no worries [15:18] i gotta run [15:18] the trouble is not new! [15:18] geirha seems to be on the right track :) [15:18] the version of my ubuntu is 9.04 [15:18] :) [15:19] 9.04 is no longer supported [15:19] i tried the another medias but it's not ok [15:19] yeah i know [15:19] i wan't to install 10.10 [15:19] and i can't install it for that reason [15:19] :) [15:20] i downloaded iso 10.10 [15:20] and i can't burn the disc [15:20] and i want the install from harddisc [15:20] everything is okay [15:20] but i have some important files [15:20] and i want to burn a few dvd with these [15:21] erdinc: maybe you can go to another machine? [15:21] a friends machine? [15:21] haha [15:21] just for that 10.10 burn? [15:21] :) [15:21] yes [15:21] upgrading might solve all these issues anyways [15:21] erdinc: are you sure you have the right type of dvd recordable? dvd-r vs dvd+r [15:21] it will be that i think so [15:21] :) [15:21] you wont have to troubleshoot a box that you are abandoning anyways [15:22] geirha, i have philips dvd-r [15:23] and the dvd driwe can burn dvd [15:23] writes so on the cove on dvdrom [15:23] :D [15:24] do you have another idea geirha or holstein? [15:25] Hm. Then it sounds like a driver issue, or possibly the dvd-recorder is failing. [15:25] i see, thanks for your helps. [15:25] geirha and holstein [15:25] i'll try to another computer. [15:25] I'd try upgrading to 9.10, and then to 10.04 and then try again. [15:26] okay, it can works, it's so logical :D [15:26] Btw, you can order an Ubuntu CD by mail btw ... completely free, no shipping costs or anything. [15:27] yes, but i don't have much time. [15:27] upgrade is more logical. [15:28] Sure. Nice to have an Ubuntu CD around though, just in case. [15:31] if i find it, it can be good. I think i must go to my friend. I need to use his computer [15:33] Hi, can someone tell me how to disable Write Caching on my External USB Hard Drive in Ubuntu? Also will this disable it locally on my machine, or will it affect the external HDD such that wherever I connect it write caching will be disabled? [15:39] anyone? [15:40] Can someone tell me how to disable Write Caching on my External USB Hard Drive in Ubuntu? [15:41] What filesystem(s) does it have? [15:43] NTFS [15:44] There's a sync options that make I/O happen synchronously, but I don't think it applies to ntfs. [15:45] So I don't think it's possible, at least not with NTFS. [15:46] Maybe running sync(1) on it after copying something to it works, but I don't know. [15:48] geirha: what command shows me details about mounted drives? Actually I just bought a Seagate 1TB expansion drive, and I'm not sure of filesystem [15:49] what type of details do you want? [15:49] geirha: filesystem [15:49] A fresh disk typically has no filesystem, you choose that when you partition and format it. [15:50] Well running mount will give you that information (if a little cryptic though) [15:50] sudo blkid may be a better option, though it also includes filesystems that are not mounted. [15:51] (but you can use df -h or mount to figure out which are mounted) [15:52] geirha: I found it woth blkid [15:52] /dev/sdb1: LABEL="Expansion Drive" UUID="087419B67419A788" TYPE="ntfs" [15:53] geirha: It's just that I heard that write chaching can cause corrupted data in case of power out or sudden removal. What can I do about that? [15:55] Hey, guys! What do you say, party my place tonight! [15:58] lordjj: Well, ntfs is designed to handle that. If it doesn't get cleanly unmounted, like if the power is cut, it has measures in place to recover from it. [15:58] And the way you recover it is by running a filesystem check, which automatically fixes it. [15:58] However, that's not possible from Linux, you must have windows to do a filesystem check on ntfs. [15:59] geirha: Ok, I didn't know that. How do I run that in XP? [15:59] Right-click -> Check drive or something like that I'd expect. I'm not very familiar with XP. [16:01] geirha: Ok thanks. Btw, out-of-topic: I've read a lot of troubling reviews about Seagate Expansion drives, I'm somewhat concerned; I thought this'd be the best way to back up my data. [16:02] lordjj: Though, filesystem check is only needed for the extreme cases. For the simpler cases, it's enough to just get it mounted in windows, then "Safely remove external drive" in windows, to get it unmounted properly. [16:04] I don't know exactly what is meant by an Expansion drive [16:04] Is it just a regular external drive you connect with usb? [16:04] It's just a 1TB usb external drive [16:07] I think I've heard they've had a couple of series of external harddrives with a bit higher defect rate than usual. I don't what series that applies to though. [16:07] I'd try Wikipedia and/or Google. === Timo__ is now known as Timo_ === siick is now known as _siick [17:36] hi to all. i think this question asked many times sorry about that i use ubuntu over 2 years and i think it is time for contribution. i am software engineer at a university in Turkiye. i am interesting in development. if anyone show me the path i would be thankful [17:45] igms: Have you seen http://www.ubuntu.com/community ? [17:46] yeah i ve seen it [17:46] but it can't help much [17:47] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu is also good [17:47] ? [17:47] ? [17:47] lol [17:47] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development <-- so is this, igms :) [17:49] thanks for quick replies [17:50] i will read these but i think what i need is some advice or some experiences of yours [18:18] I talked my boyfriend into installing Ubuntu after his Lenovo ThinkPad Edge 14 arrived, he opted to wipe out windows 7 as he fell in love with the trial run from the disc. But now there are some major problems and I'll feel so guilty if I can't resolve them. Can anyone help me troubleshoot a DNS problem? [18:19] dns problem [18:19] he can ping 8.8.8.8 without a problem? [18:19] The wifi signal drops out, and when testing on speedtest.net I can't even get through the download speed test [18:21] --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics --- [18:21] 8 packets transmitted, 8 received, 0% packet loss, time 7010ms [18:21] rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 24.460/28.733/39.172/5.635 ms [18:21] nice [18:21] But then it will drop and not be able to reconnect [18:21] despite other computers on the wifi network working great [18:22] mmm [18:22] the speed on the mac through speedtest.net will be 9.86 mbps download and 3.88 upload, while this ubuntu10.10 lenovo can't even connect at all [18:22] JoeMaverickSett, was it "lspci |grep Network" [18:22] mac [18:22] did you say mac [18:22] ahhh [18:22] lenovo [18:22] yea, theres a mac in the house [18:22] but this is a lenovo think pad edge [18:22] yeah we would like to know which wlan card you have [18:22] the lenovo is what im troubleshooting [18:23] Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10) [18:24] bioterror: yes. :D [18:24] this is my first try working on ubuntu so I really appreciate your help:) [18:26] I did try downloading the WICD Network Manager to use instead, based on forum threads I read. but that would not connect at all. [18:26] so I switched startup back to the regular network manager. [18:27] popeluvsu, JoeMaverickSett will assist you ;) [18:27] it's just insanely flaky, when connected it is slow, then it drops out and will not reconnect for a long time, sometimes it will not reconnect unless I reboot. thanks so much! [18:27] thanks joe [18:30] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10500411&postcount=19 [18:30] :| [18:32] thanks bioterror, i see through that link I need to update the bios, is there a beginners step by step somewhere? [18:34] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318789 [18:35] thanks, ill work through this and report back [18:36] popeluvsu: also this; http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-flash-your-system-bios-under-linux.html [19:10] Hi again, I just read through the BIOS updating links you sent for this Lenovo ThinkPad Edge 14 using Ubuntu 10.10 and I'm a little confused on some fronts. [19:10] popeluvsu1: who was it that sent you that link? [19:11] haha [19:11] it was joe ;) [19:11] oh sorry, bioterror and joe were helping [19:11] you guys must laugh all day with the silliness in this chat! ha [19:11] it has its moments [19:12] you are like the ER and everyone just has tunnel vision about their injuries and can't think straight to ask the right questions:) [19:13] I'm always laughing [19:13] as I'm a hilarious fatty [19:13] Anyway, I ran the sudu biosdecode and got a ton of info on my bios that i can't really decipher. From reading I know flashing is scary and risky, and I want to be absolutely sure I'm doing it right before I start [19:13] popeluvsu1: that's a good way of looking at it [19:14] bioterror: fatties are usually hilarious [19:14] popeluvsu1, http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-75111.html [19:14] * ddecator has not idea why we're trying to flash a bios in the first place, so he'll leave you all to it [19:14] no* [19:15] ddecator, becouse wlan cuts signals and one guy got it fixed with updating BIOS [19:15] ...i'm not sure how that would work, but ok [19:15] popeluvsu1, download that ISO, burn it with what ever computer you have, boot it and updated it [19:16] ddecator, I'm atm. flashing my phone :) [19:16] I got so frustrated with my mockia n97, that I decided to go with WindowsMobile, once again [19:16] Android FTW :) [19:17] how can one phone restart itself during sending an MMS [19:17] mine did when i first got it. it rebooted every time i got an email and it tried to notify me. did a factory reset and no troubles since [19:17] bioterror: just want to check compatibility based on that link, this may be stupid..but how do I find out what model thinkpadedge I have in ubuntu 10? [19:18] lshw |less [19:18] should tell [19:18] I'm using Windows XP atm. I cant confirm all the commands I'm throwing out of my mind :D [19:19] that didn't tell me anything on my system.. [19:19] should tell [19:20] ha, that just said description: computer [19:22] ok, so i have this lenovo bios link, it does say the update was released 3 days ago so i guess i would probably want to upgrade regardless of problem right? (sorry i'm scared to do this!) [19:22] <---needs coddling, ha [19:24] does it matter that I'm not running windows 7? [19:25] popeluvsu1, it doesnt matter at all [19:26] sorry, wifi dropped again === _siick is now known as siick [20:24] Having tons of wifi issues with ubuntu 10.10 on my lenovo thinkpad edge. its my first time using linux at all...do you think I should switch to 10.4 instead? Is that less buggy? [20:31] hello popeluvsu [20:32] hi! [20:33] popeluvsu: you might try a newer kernel to see if that helps [20:34] popeluvsu: what network card do you have. Could you run the command lshw -C network [20:34] duanedesign: I'll try anything, I already tried using a different network controller, updating BIOS to no avail. Can you help me find info on trying a new kernel? [20:35] RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller [20:35] ok [20:37] some others have pointed me to an issue on the forums that said updating BIOS helped with this lenovo thinkpad problem, so I downloaded the BIOS ISO, burnt to a disk, and then I couldnt get it to update. [20:38] hmm [20:39] During the BIOS boot, it gave me 2 options, the first was to update, when I hit enter it said, "you do not need an update at this time" and it cancelled the action [20:40] the 2nd thing was "update model number" and when I hit enter on that...it gave me a model number already filled in.. [20:40] popeluvsu: can you try this command [20:40] sure. [20:40] lsmod | r8192se_pci [20:40] see if that is the wireless module you have [20:40] command not found [20:41] did i copy it wrong? [20:41] lsmod | r8192se_pci [20:41] ohh sorry [20:42] lsmod | grep r8192se_pci [20:42] r8192se_pci 469870 0 [20:42] cfg80211 144694 1 r8192se_pci [20:42] ok [20:43] can you try these commands: [20:43] sure [20:44] by the way thanks for helping me! [20:44] rmmod r8192se_pci [20:44] then [20:44] modprobe r8192se_pci hwwep=0 [20:44] that willl unload then reload the module [20:44] do i put them in seperately? [20:45] or one after the other? [20:45] yes one at a time [20:46] the first one says ERROR: Removing 'r8192se_pci': Operation not permitted [20:47] the second one does not elicit a response [20:47] oh,, you will likely need to add sudo. [20:47] sudo rmmod r8192se_pci [20:47] then you will have to put in your password [20:47] then run: sudo modprobe r8192se_pci hwwep=0 [20:50] ok im back [20:50] :) [20:51] I saw on the forums that people were using this website called speedtest.net to test their connection [20:52] besides the wifi cutting out over and over, its speed is super slow while its not on the other computer. im gunna check right now:) [20:52] omg, this is a miracle! thank you duanedesign so far its running fast than ever! [20:53] i've never gotten a download speed over 2mbps and now its at 14! [20:53] popeluvsu: awesome! [20:53] popeluvsu: ok now [20:53] we are not quite done [20:53] oooh ok [20:54] yes, anything that helps i'm willing to do:) [20:54] you will have to that everytime :( [20:54] oh no! [20:54] so we want to make it happen automagically [20:54] everytime i restart? or everytime it logs off [20:54] ? [20:55] and btw, is this a common issue in 10.10 or a common issue with this wifi card? Im so curious to learn as much as I can:) [20:55] popeluvsu: ok, run this command [20:55] ready! [20:55] popeluvsu: ls /etc/modprobe.d/ [20:55] it will list the contents of that folder [20:55] we want to see if this file exists [20:56] realtek.conf [20:56] probably is not there [20:56] do not see it: [20:56] alsa-base.conf blacklist-modem.conf [20:56] blacklist-ath_pci.conf blacklist-oss.conf [20:56] blacklist.conf blacklist-watchdog.conf [20:56] blacklist-firewire.conf intel-5300-iwlagn-disable11n.conf [20:56] blacklist-framebuffer.conf [20:56] ok [20:56] we will create it [20:57] i am ready [20:57] run the command: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/realtek.conf [20:58] put this line in the file: [20:58] options r8192se_pci hwwep=0 [20:58] ok, i have a new blank window [20:58] alright. just save it now? [20:58] then save it and you are done. :) [20:58] done:) [20:59] thank you so much duane [20:59] it seems the WEP encoding and decodin is buggy [20:59] so that hwwep=0 turns it off [20:59] i see, this is so interesting! [20:59]