[02:49] <atari2600a> does ubuntu server cut network access when it's apt-getting?
[02:50]  * Datz doubts it
[02:50] <Datz> probably your bandwidth is scarce
[02:50] <atari2600a> weird
[02:51] <atari2600a> my VM's taking up all CPU time & network activity spiked when I turned it on
[02:51] <atari2600a> & I can't get into it
[02:53] <atari2600a> that's impossible
[02:53] <atari2600a> this DSL modem can't even do 400KB/s down
[02:55] <atari2600a> well it's doing SOMETHING
[02:55] <atari2600a> it's writing to disk here & there
[02:56] <atari2600a> damnit I knew I shouldn't have limited it to 256MB/RAM
[02:59] <Datz> guess you'll have to wait it out :P
[03:00] <atari2600a> I pkilled the VM
[03:00] <atari2600a> booted it up & ran sudo dpkg -C, immediately gave me a thumbs up
[03:00] <atari2600a> so then if it wasn't updating...then what the fsck...
[03:03] <KB1JWQ> I'm playing around with debootstrap and looking at the various files for different distros. Where can I find a decent description of the various lucid variants (in this case buildd fakechroot minbase)?
[03:12] <KB1JWQ> Ah, disregard me; the answer's in the debootstrap man page; it seems that's not distro specific.
[05:54] <tohuw> I want my DNS server to tell clients on its local network that its FQDN (say, dns.example.com) resolves to the local IP instead of the public one. Obviously, I want it to keep informing non-local clients that its FQDN resolves to its public IP. How do I accomplish this?
[05:56] <ScottK> tohuw: My advice is google split zone dns server.
[05:57] <tohuw> ScottK: thanks!
[07:55] <tohuw> bind9 won't start, but I'm getting no reason why out of /var/log/messages. Is there somewhere else to look?
[09:39] <tohuw> So here's an odd problem: I'm trying to ssh into my local DNS server. If I ping it by FQDN (e.g. myserver.site), I get the correct IP address, and the ping times are fine, but there's a very long gap between pings. If I ssh to the FQDN, I get ssh'd into the localhost of whatever machine I'm on! nslookup of the FQDN seems fine... ideas?
[10:14] <airtonix> tohuw: did you check the obvious things like : /etc/hosts ~/.ssh/config
[10:15] <airtonix> tohuw: also the zones config for your local dns if you have one
[10:17] <airtonix> tohuw: also i suspect you did not successfully configure your dns server correctly
[11:22] <kim0> hallyn: I've tested the idle cpu thing, with 10.04.2 idle connected to vnc it's 7% (ok), when not connected to vnc console it's (3%) (awesome!). I tried booting my win7 vm with kvm-spice, however I kept running into (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681220) over and over (can't boot)
[11:56] <Tohuw> If anyone gets a moment to take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10551470#post10551470, it would be much appreciated. The details are too long to post here. Thanks!
[13:10] <hallyn> kim0: uh, we have that patch
[13:10] <hallyn> now, maybe my new packaging ended up not applying it...
[13:12]  * hallyn checks build log
[13:14] <hallyn> kim0: zounds!
[13:19] <hallyn> (there was no source/format file)
[13:23] <kim0> hallyn: um so we had it or not ?!
[13:28] <Cherish> Anybody here?
[13:29] <kim0> Cherish: surely :)
[13:31] <Cherish> I enable SSL on Apache, and generate the key by -des3. So when I reboot my system, it required password.
[13:31] <Cherish> But after I enter the password , it dead.
[13:31] <Cherish> I can't see the login message, it is starting apache all the time.
[13:33] <Cherish> And the error is "Init: Private key not found" , but my PATH is right.
[13:33] <Cherish> When I generate the key doesn't support password , everything is OK.
[13:33] <Cherish> This is why?
[13:34] <Cherish> ls
[13:35] <hallyn> kim0: it was not being aplied
[13:35] <hallyn> kim0: update in about 2 hours, should be there
[13:40] <kim0> Cherish: I suppose because starting apache from the init system is conflicting with your requirement of inputing the encryption password "interactively" ! My initial guess is that it won't be easy
[13:41] <kim0> hallyn: why are ppas so lazy :) can we have it build in like 10 mins .. spawn a cloud builder or something :D
[13:43] <Cherish> kim0: Yeah, that's what I mean.
[13:43] <Cherish> Do you know the reason?
[13:45] <hallyn> Cherish: fraid i don't.  I'd suggest opening a bug about it.
[13:45] <hallyn> Cherish: is there anything in syslog showing what apaache was up to?
[13:46] <Cherish> The error log is "Init: Private key not found"
[13:47] <Cherish> I'm sure the Path is right, because when I use the key generated by no -des3, everything is OK.
[13:53] <cavefish> Hey, I've got a question. I'm running a Ubuntu 10.10 server and want to change the welcome message. I've already changed the /etc/motd file, unfortunately that did't work. After a reset of the server the file resets with the default information. Can anyone explain how to fix this?
[13:57] <hallyn> cavefish: look under /etc/update-motd.d
[13:57] <hallyn> cavefish: mounted-varrun.conf appears to regenerated it on boot
[13:57] <hallyn> Cherish: any chance you are using the wron gpassphrase?  If not, open a bug.
[13:59] <hallyn> Cherish: http://www.giantrobot.co.nz/blog/apache-ssl-init-private-key-not-found
[14:00] <Cherish> hallyn: My English is not good, I can't express it well.....
[14:00] <hallyn> Cherish: I suspect if you cat the two .pems that'll fix it
[14:01] <Cherish> I did it , have no effect
[14:01] <ttist25> Hey there - I'm trying to recover a 3 drive RAID5 array.  It's on desktop but I can't seem to get help in #ubuntu - can anyone help here?
[14:02] <kim0> ttist25: soft raid ?
[14:02] <ttist25> ps - it's a dry run - there's no critical data.  just trying to figure it out before i need to
[14:02] <ttist25> yes
[14:02] <kim0> so what's the problem
[14:03] <ttist25> I've got 3 500GB SATA drives setup in RAID5.  The OS is installed on the array
[14:03] <ttist25> everything works well and I can boot etc
[14:03] <cerberos> hi, is there any way to make a screen session page up the same way a non screen session does?
[14:04] <ttist25> but i'm trying to test by removing power to one of the drives (sdb) and booting
[14:05] <ttist25> but I get dumped to an initramfs prompt because it can't start the array (i've got bootdegraded=trueP
[14:05] <ttist25> I think i'm missing something fundamentally
[14:06] <kim0> ttist25: is your /boot on a separate disk ?!
[14:06] <ttist25> no
[14:06] <ttist25> the os is in the array
[14:06] <kim0> duh, I didn't know one can boot from raid5
[14:06] <ttist25> is that my fundamental error? :)
[14:07] <kim0> ttist25: do all disks have partitions with id "fd" for raid
[14:07] <kim0> ttist25: is there some tutorial you followed setting up /boot on raid5 (I'd wanna know about it)
[14:07] <ttist25> on each disk i have a 26gb swap partition and the remainder /
[14:08] <ttist25> the / partitions are set with boot flag on
[14:08] <kim0> type fd ?
[14:08] <ttist25> hold on i'll shoot you the link
[14:08] <kim0> fdisk -l
[14:08] <kim0> would be good
[14:09] <ttist25> here's the link https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html
[14:09] <ttist25> that's for raid 1
[14:09] <ttist25> but i followed it exactly other than i used 3 disks and selected raid 5
[14:10] <ttist25> it boots fine with all the disks there but i'm trying to figure out how i would recover it
[14:10] <ttist25> ps - if you can't tell i'm skating on the edge of noobidity
[14:10] <hallyn> Cherish: and the .pem file is readable by user www-data or whoever apache runs as?
[14:14] <Cherish> hallyn: have any matters?
[14:14] <hallyn> ?
[14:15] <Cherish> I chmod it 777， have no effects
[14:15] <hallyn> feh
[14:16] <Cherish> ……
[14:18] <hallyn> Cherish: if you don't want to type up a description, maybe 'ubuntu-bug apache2' will do a good enough job, then just put 'I get Init: Private key not found' in the body
[14:18] <hallyn> kim0: still building :(
[14:18] <kim0> yeah
[14:18]  * hallyn out
[14:18] <kim0> np
[14:25] <ttist25> is it even possible to boot raid5 with a degraded disk when the os is installed in the array?  Most of the raid5 setups i've seen when googling are 3 disks for the array and then a separate disk for the os (sometimes mirrored in raid1)
[14:30] <kaushal> hi
[14:30] <kaushal> is there a way to enable logging for fcron periodical command scheduler ?
[14:45] <Cherish> kim0: Thanks for you description, I fix it. Thank you very much.
[14:56] <kaushal> is there a way to set alert if a particular user sucks Internet Bandwdith among 100 Users in a LAN Environment ?
[14:56] <kaushal> I mean if he uses any p2p application like torrents
[14:56] <kaushal> I am using shorewall firewall
[16:09] <cerberos> I'm having trouble getting apache2, nginx, postgresql and mysql (and probably more) to start at boot here's my rc2.d output http://paste.pound-python.org/show/4085/
[16:53] <LyonJT> Hey all
[16:54] <LyonJT> Quick question can you have more than one NameVirtualHost on a apache webserver
[16:55] <kim0> LyonJT: you can have many virtual hosts under one apache
[18:03] <donvito2> hello i get weird log file with this message
[18:03] <donvito2> http://pastebin.com/FKwPr2LM
[18:03] <donvito2> the file log goes huge to 145 GB
[18:04] <donvito2> [Sat Mar 12 19:03:18 2011] [error] [client 85.190.0.3] Attempt to serve directory: /var/www/
[18:08] <pmatulis> donvito2: what version of php5 do you have?
[18:13] <donvito2> PHP 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.7 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Jan 12 2011 18:36:08)
[18:16] <pmatulis> donvito2: 3 options, 1. upgrade to 10.10, 2. use ";" instead of "#" for comments in the referenced files, or 3. what for an update to php5 in 10.04
[18:17] <ScottK> Number three will be a long wait.
[18:19] <awanti> i have some in depth question can ask ...
[18:23] <awanti> I have 1 LDAP server and 20 clients and os is Ubuntu 10.04. Here every one having romaing profile. Now what i want is I want to restrict 3 pcs being login by other users and that 3 pc users can't login to other 17 pc...
[18:23] <awanti> So plz. help me to solve this
[18:23] <Ryan_Lane> awanti: which ldap server are you using?
[18:25] <awanti> sorry.... which ldap means?
[18:25] <Ryan_Lane> server, which server
[18:25] <Ryan_Lane> openldap?
[18:25] <Ryan_Lane> active directory?
[18:26] <awanti> YES active directory
[18:26] <Ryan_Lane> ah
[18:26] <Ryan_Lane> are the desktops kerberized?
[18:27] <awanti> yes... all 20 client pc's are Ubuntu Desktop Edition only
[18:27] <Ryan_Lane> well, I'll skip that question, and tell you the pam_security way of doing it
[18:27] <awanti> and we have to integrate to Active Directory
[18:27] <awanti> yes plz.
[18:28] <Ryan_Lane> awanti: look at /etc/security/access.conf
[18:28] <awanti> yes
[18:29] <Ryan_Lane> look at the man page for access.conf (man access.conf)
[18:29] <Ryan_Lane> look at the man page for pam_access (man pam_access)
[18:29] <Ryan_Lane> so, you'll need to enable pam_access in your pam configuration
[18:30] <Ryan_Lane> then, in access.conf, you'll need to restrict access to root, and whoever you want to restrict access to
[18:30] <awanti> ok ok i got it
[18:30] <Ryan_Lane> of course, if you are using kerberos, there are likely better ways to do this, like doing so on the AD side, but it's more difficult
[18:30] <Ryan_Lane> to initially configure anyway
[18:31] <Ryan_Lane> the kerberos route is likely best if you can do it though
[18:31] <Ryan_Lane> pam_access will solve your problem though
[18:31] <awanti> yes...
[18:31] <awanti> And i have another question...
[18:33] <Ryan_Lane> ok
[18:33] <awanti> I want to restrict users to changes in their pc (like wallpaper changes , moving icons, deleting short cuts from desktop etc)
[18:34] <Ryan_Lane> in gnome?
[18:34] <awanti> yes
[18:34] <Ryan_Lane> or also kde?
[18:34] <awanti> GNOME
[18:40] <Ryan_Lane> sorry. was in another window
[18:40] <Ryan_Lane> I think there is a way to do so
[18:40] <Ryan_Lane> it's been a while since I've looked at this
[18:40] <ScottK> awanti: That's not really on topic for Ubuntu Server.
[18:41] <Ryan_Lane> that's true
[18:41] <Ryan_Lane> should likely ask that in #ubuntu
[18:41] <Ryan_Lane> awanti: take a look at Sabayon, maybe, though
[18:42] <awanti> sabayon is OS right
[18:43] <Ryan_Lane> awanti: no, a tool to restrict settings in gnome
[18:43] <Ryan_Lane> google it
[18:43] <awanti> ok
[19:05] <LyonJT> anyone know how to give a user permissions to a folder ?
[19:08] <awanti> Ryan_Lane: Can I able to install Ubuntu through LAN upto 400 pc one at a time
[19:09] <awanti> if yes plz. can u give some links .. I will refer that plz.
[19:09] <Ryan_Lane> if the server can handle the load, yes
[19:10] <Ryan_Lane> awanti: you use preseeing for it
[19:11] <Ryan_Lane> wow ubuntu's docs on this are insanely old
[19:11] <Ryan_Lane> https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/hppa/preseed-using.html
[19:12] <Ryan_Lane> awanti: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-unattended-ubuntu-network-install
[19:52] <peturie> Hello all
[19:52] <peturie> anyone here?
[19:52] <peturie> stupid irc client
[19:52] <peturie> ASDF
[19:53] <peturi> Hello
[19:53] <peturi> Centralized database for users, is NIS the way to go?
[19:54] <pmatulis> no
[19:54] <peturi> Elaborate
[19:55] <peturi> LDAP better?
[19:59] <pmatulis> peturi: nis is insecure and limited in features.  ldap is secure and versatile
[20:01] <pmatulis> peturi: generally people use nis only when forced to (usually b/c of old/legacy connected systems)
[20:01] <peturi> This is a beowulf cluster, the nodes are not connected to the internet and there is a very limited number of users.
[20:02] <peturi> Is LDAP harder to setup and maintain compared to NIS, what are the benefits?
[20:03] <pmatulis> peturi: yes, harder to set up.  and i already told you the basic benefits.  google for details
[20:04] <peturi> pmatulis, funny, googles first result for "ubuntu support" is a page mentioning this channel.
[20:04] <peturi> useless
[20:19] <ttist25> Hello - is it possible to boot a degraded software RAID5 with the OS installed in the array?  Does the OS HAVE to be installed on a different partition?
[20:20] <crunchbang_> i have little issue with ubuntu one a bit: i kinda asked how they put their server togetter and for financial reasons they didn't answer....
[21:36] <bigbang> any one know what registrar allows glue records ?
[21:39] <RoyK> glue?
[21:41] <EvilPhoenix> i had the same question
[21:41] <bigbang> Glue records are required when you wish to set the name servers of a domain name to a hostname under the domain name itself..
[21:43] <bigbang> godaddy don't add glue records and i was wondering if anybody knew what other company might allow it
[22:00] <rnigam> Hello Everyone, I was trying to use Phoronix test suite for the first time on ubuntu-server. I get the following error about xdg-mime: http://pastebin.com/rk70N7Nk . Can someone please suggest what that error means?
[22:04] <RoyK> rnigam: that's related to the software you're trying to install, not ubuntu
[22:08] <rnigam> RoyK: Do you happen to know anything about ubuntu-kvm? and if there are any tools in the repository that can be used to measure its performance against say xen.?
[22:09] <RoyK> xen works well for pravirt if the guest supports that, but paravirt on xen can be a headache at the best of times
[22:10] <RoyK> kvm work very well for linux guests, though
[22:10] <binBASH> has anyone tried kvm + cgroups yet?
[22:10] <RoyK> I haven't tried other OSes
[22:10] <RoyK> what are cgroups?
[22:13] <binBASH> http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/06/manage-your-performance-with-cgroups-and-projects.html
[22:15] <binBASH> +
[22:15] <binBASH> http://berrange.com/posts/2009/12/03/using-cgroups-with-libvirt-and-lxckvm-guests-in-fedora-12/
[22:42] <rnigam> binBASH KVM with cgroups sounds interesting !
[22:42] <rnigam> Thanks for letting it out
[22:45] <binBASH> rnigam: yeah I'm currently setting up a cloud iaas company here in Germany and try to use it
[23:09] <phoenixsampras> how to turn ubuntu into a email server?
[23:09] <qman__> installing an email server is easy
[23:10] <qman__> configuring it so you can actually get messages sent securely and without getting on any spam lists, however, is not
[23:10] <qman__> the subject is covered to a reasonable degree in the server guide
[23:12] <phoenixsampras> oh i see
[23:12] <phoenixsampras> qman__: how to setup ubuntu-server on citrix?
[23:18] <guntbert> !serverguide | phoenixsampras re mailserver  --  just as a starting point (and be *very* cautious)
[23:18] <guntbert> phoenixsampras: how is that different from any other server install?
[23:19] <phoenixsampras> guntbert: well since its ubuntu, i have the impression things will autoconfigure magically ....
[23:20] <guntbert> phoenixsampras: I was asking: what difference does it make if you are using some virtualization?
[23:21] <phoenixsampras> guntbert: oh, well, for some reason, ubuntuserver 10.10 doesnt boot on citrix , it seems it needs some hack... that i cant find
[23:21] <guntbert> phoenixsampras: and server is not so much automated - beware of tasksel though (it is ok for installing services but NEVER for removing them again)
[23:22] <guntbert> phoenixsampras: what does not boot? the install CD or the installed system?
[23:22] <phoenixsampras> guntbert: i dont like tasksel, so i plan to do it manually
[23:22] <phoenixsampras> guntbert: the installed system
[23:22] <guntbert> phoenixsampras: wise decision, I got myself burned with tasksel
[23:22] <phoenixsampras> looks like there is some grub2 problems
[23:23] <guntbert> phoenixsampras: how does the system "not boot"?
[23:23] <phoenixsampras> http://forums.citrix.com/message.jspa?messageID=1519974
[23:23] <phoenixsampras> grub2 and ext4.. and some other things
[23:24] <phoenixsampras> ubuntu appears to be more sophisticated than citrix lawl
[23:25] <guntbert> phoenixsampras: it uses uuids for devices -- look into that last post from ^^
[23:26] <phoenixsampras> yeah, I saw like 20 workarounds, but not sure which one works or not , specially for production
[23:27] <phoenixsampras> since i plan to move from centos to ubuntu-server to host the email server