hamitronreference intel cooler is working better than I expected00:02
brobostigongood night everyone, sleep well.00:06
hamitronlaters o/00:06
brobostigongood night hamitron00:06
hamitron25 fps to 64 fps01:19
cprofittquestion concerning the meaning of a phrase in the UK region02:22
cprofittanyone able to help me out?02:22
Azelphurcprofitt: only if you ask :P02:26
directhexbear in mind it's 2:30am in the uk region02:26
cprofittAzelphur: if someone said "the person is nagging me to death" would that have a positive or negative connotation in the UK02:26
cprofittyes, I know it is late... apologies for that02:26
Azelphurit means ranting02:26
cprofittAzelphur: thanks... someone told me the opposite and I did not think they were being honest02:26
Azelphuryea they arn't :P02:27
cprofittI did not think death would ever be considered a good thing02:27
Azelphurcprofitt: like for example if you walked through the door and I started on how you hadn't done the dishes and you havn't taken the trash out and you havn't tidied your room .etc etc02:27
AzelphurI would be nagging :P02:27
cprofittso it is meant the same way in the UK as it is in the states02:28
Azelphurguess so :D02:28
cprofittexact quote: Nag to death in the UK means that they are keen and eager,02:28
cprofittalways seeking further and additional work.02:28
directhexum... no.02:28
cprofittI did not see that to be honest02:28
cprofittI appreciate the feedback02:28
directhexgenerally, anything being done to death is bad ;)02:36
cprofittkind figured that02:48
directhexother than a few, ahem, vigorous activities03:01
directhexanyway, 3am means bed03:02
Azelphurpfft, sleep is for the weak03:15
ubuntuuk-planet[Jonathan Riddell] conf.kde.in Slides II - http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/439808:07
MooDoohello all08:57
MooDooAlanBell: checking stats again? ;)08:58
MooDoohello czajkowski Martiini08:58
czajkowskiMooDoo: hi09:01
MooDooczajkowski: how are you this fine day?09:03
czajkowskigrand up hours though09:05
MooDooczajkowski: ouch how come?  work?09:07
czajkowskihousemate getting sick since before 709:10
MooDooczajkowski: `inconsiderate of them ;)09:10
czajkowskiself inflicted drinking09:11
MooDooczajkowski: slap them :)09:11
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daubersHmmm.... I'm theoretically stuck in Oxford + surrounding are until 5..... and bored already09:50
MooDoodaubers: you at work then ;)09:50
dutchieyay, oxford09:51
dutchiealthough i am leaving in ~2 hours09:51
daubersMooDoo: No, missus has an exam so to be nice as she was fretting I offered to drive her in09:57
MooDoodaubers: :)10:00
daubersSuppose I could get another coffee and start moving my email over to gmail....10:01
MooDoodaubers: gmail ftw!10:01
daubersmeans I could also start moving away from evolution...10:02
MartijnVdSgood idea :)10:02
MooDoodaubers: i made that change months ago :)10:02
MooDooi think it's worth it10:02
daubersMooDoo: The second time an update overwrote my postfix conf without asking made me really really consider it10:03
MooDoodaubers: ouch10:03
daubersAlso, tempted to beat people overly panicking about Fukushima with a big stick10:05
MartijnVdSdaubers: BUT IT'S NUCULAR10:05
daubersMartijnVdS: So are some of the rocks in your garden!10:05
MooDooi could of punched and american over his comments about the japan incident yesterday10:05
MartijnVdSdaubers: Good thing I don't have a garden! :)10:06
daubersMartijnVdS: Have you got a watch with a glow in the dark dial?10:06
popeyMorning everyone10:06
daubersMorning popey10:07
MartijnVdSdaubers: You don't have to convince me, I'm just being annoying, sorry ;)10:07
MooDoomorning popey10:16
AlanBellmorning all10:16
bigcalmAhoy from Scottyland10:17
MartijnVdS\o bigcalm10:17
MartijnVdSbigcalm: was the music good? :)10:17
AlanBelloch aye the noo10:18
bigcalmA good and interesting mix, thank you :)10:18
AlanBellno idea what I just said there10:18
bigcalmAlanBell: something exceedingly racist no doubt :P10:18
bigcalmHeavy rain and then heavy snow on our drive up last night10:19
bigcalmGot to bed at 2am :S10:19
daubersright, google apps setup10:20
daubersjust have to wait for dns rubbish to hit it's ttl now10:21
* daubers goes to find people to annoy for a couple of hours10:22
bigcalmI do enjoy the USB teather that means I don't have to fork out for PremierInn's wifi :)10:22
graftrahulahi! where i can find gnome_volume_control configuration file?10:22
MartijnVdSgraftrahula: what's the problem you're trying to solve? :)10:26
MartijnVdSgraftrahula: (because "manually poking at the g-v-c config file" usually isn't the right solution :))10:26
graftrahulaevery time after reboot  only front speakers are working.in controls LFE surround and front are mute10:29
bigcalmWhy am I looking at the error log I set up yesterday?10:29
bigcalmThis is the down side to having 'net access anywhere10:30
MartijnVdSbigcalm: Close your terminal windows. Go to the gf.10:30
bigcalmMartijnVdS: she's busy with lady things10:30
bigcalmI've closed the terminal though10:31
MartijnVdSdaubers: http://i.imgur.com/Unyfz.jpg10:35
graftrahuladead silence...10:41
popeygraftrahula: sounds like an alsa thing10:42
popeybigcalm: lady things :)10:42
popeyI am not even going to speculate what that might be! :D10:42
graftrahulapopey: yep!10:43
bigcalmpopey: having a wash :P10:44
AlanBellcoz blokes don't do that!10:44
bigcalmAlanBell: why would we?10:46
bigcalmTrying to find a car park in Edinburgh at the moment10:46
bigcalmEasier said than done10:46
=== bigcalm is now known as HaylesT
dutchieooh, he's finally got hayley on irc10:52
dutchie(i assume)10:52
popeypoor girl10:52
czajkowskiHaylesT: whooo10:52
* czajkowski frowns at popey 10:53
livingdaylightczajkowski, Aloha10:53
=== HaylesT is now known as bigcalm
czajkowskilivingdaylight: hi there hows you10:56
bigcalmMaybe I'll get Hayley on here some day :)10:56
bigcalmHi peeps :)10:56
AlanBellpeace to you to11:01
bigcalmLaptop speakers really are quite silly to be listening to music with11:02
MartijnVdSthey're quite silly period :)11:02
bigcalmMight as well just have an 8ohm system beep speaker11:03
MartiiniHELP!  syslinux is giving me a headache .. Im unable to boot /dev/sdb2 on usb-stick ...someone .. please help me configure syslinux correctly11:03
bigcalmTime to find a car park!11:04
bigcalmLaters peeps :)11:04
livingdaylightdanfish, hola11:22
danfish:) a lie in for once and good weather. All is good.11:25
brobostigongood morning everyone.11:27
HazRPGbrobostigon: good morning squire ^^11:30
livingdaylightdanfish, you're not in Japan then?11:30
brobostigonHazRPG: good morning, :)11:31
danfishlo brobostigon11:31
brobostigongood morning danfish :)11:31
HazRPG\o mornin' everyone11:31
danfishlivingdaylight: heh - thankfully no11:31
livingdaylightwonder who thought it was a good idea to build a nuclear reactor on a falt line? hrmph... :s11:32
brobostigonno "click" it seems on bbc news, :(11:32
danfishI'm not one to panic, but someone down the pub reckons that nuclear reactor is going to grow and grow and melt through to the core of the Earth and then explode and we'll all be dead ;)11:32
brobostigondanfish: lol. :)11:33
danfishMy local is not known for it's nuclear physicists11:33
brobostigonmine is alittle better, alot of clever and intelligant people go there.11:33
brobostigonincluding some of the best chess players in the country.11:34
ubuntuuk-planet[Dan Fish] Upstart and Python - http://www.ossmedicine.org/ubuntu/03/upstart-and-python/12:07
=== Dre_Doctorsame is now known as OmNomSequitur
AlanBellMartiini: what is up with the stick with syslinux on it then? you are trying to install ubuntu from USB or run it live?13:01
MartiiniI want to make syslinux boot opensuse on /dev/sdb2 on usb stick13:02
Martiiniwith no luck this far13:02
AlanBellah, well I think you would be best off asking that question in #opensuse13:02
brobostigonwhere are the ssh daemon logs?13:09
MooDoobrobostigon: /var/log/auth.log?13:13
HazRPGhmm, I thought SID 6581 was better than 8580... but I've noticed on this demo I currently have loaded that ReSID 8580 plays back a sound that isn't on the ReSID 6581 >_<13:14
* HazRPG very confused now13:14
HazRPGsounds so much better under the 858013:14
MartijnVdSHazRPG: 8 bit geekery :)13:14
brobostigonMooDoo: thank you.13:15
MooDoobrobostigon: you're welcome13:15
HazRPGMartijnVdS: heh yeah13:16
HazRPGMartijnVdS: is the c64 actually 8-bit music? Considering it has the least audio channels :S?13:18
HazRPGI know each sound is produced with 8 bits of data13:19
MartijnVdSHazRPG: I assume it's 8 bit then :)13:19
HazRPGdespite its lack of channels?13:19
MartijnVdSno, if you only have 8 bits to define output signal, it's 8-bit sound :)13:20
HazRPGmakes sense I guess :)13:20
HazRPGVICE doesn't seem to like playing some of these demos all the time xD13:29
HazRPGits like a 50/50 game13:29
HazRPG"maybe I'll run it this time... maybe I won't!13:29
MartijnVdStime for percussive maintenance13:32
MartijnVdS(that worked back in those days)13:32
MartijnVdSHazRPG: whacking computer to make it work :)13:33
MartijnVdSHazRPG: "percussive maintenance"13:33
HazRPGjust like the old ... "give 'er a good blow" technique ;)13:33
HazRPGMartijnVdS: can't whack a emulator though dude ;)13:34
MartijnVdSHazRPG: not really, no..13:35
HazRPGcan do the "kill" command on it... and start again... guess that's sort of like whacking it13:35
MartijnVdSHazRPG: kill -0 :)13:38
HazRPGargh! so annoying that the same sound can be emulated a million different ways >_<13:45
HazRPGanyone know what totem uses to play sid files?13:45
hamitronheh, so glad I have different password for nickserv to everything else13:45
HazRPGhamitron: what did you do :P?13:46
hamitronused a different IRC client, and auto joined #ubuntu13:46
hamitronand typed "id ....."13:46
hamitronprob get banned for the rude password13:47
HazRPGI thought you had to type out identify out fully :/13:47
livingdaylightHI Mandrake13:49
HazRPGreally bugging me now13:51
HazRPGjust converted a sid file to wav using sidplay -w path/to/sid/file.sid13:51
HazRPGbut it sounds so different to how totem plays it :S13:51
brobostigonbig bang theory, ch4+1 :)13:52
HazRPGand the totem way sounds WAYYYYY much cooler13:52
HazRPGbrobostigon: winner!13:52
HazRPGah fudge13:52
HazRPGmy TV won't pick it up :/13:52
HazRPGthey killed analogue13:52
brobostigonHazRPG: my mum calls it,that geeky program,13:52
HazRPGI completely forgot when I was trying to tune it the other day13:52
shaunoHazRPG: if 10 people play the same song, they'll play in 10 different ways.  and none are wrong :p13:52
HazRPGbrobostigon: hehe, my sister calls it the american IT crowd thing13:53
HazRPGshauno: which is why I'm trying to record it as a .ogg/.mp3 :P13:53
brobostigonHazRPG: she isnt far off, but also along way away.13:53
HazRPGis there a way to stream out what totem plays into a file?13:53
HazRPGbrobostigon: she loves it though :P13:54
shaunoHazRPG: doesn't it use pulse?  couldn't you use the same instructions you were giving for recording mumble?13:54
brobostigonHazRPG: it crowd or big bang?13:54
HazRPGI think she's just too use to having me around that the geeky references are sort of rubbing off on her13:54
HazRPGbrobostigon: big bang theory13:54
brobostigonHazRPG: yay :)13:54
HazRPGnot sure if she's seen IT crowd...13:54
brobostigonHazRPG: thts good.13:54
HazRPGthere must be a way to grab out the totem stream ... right?13:55
brobostigonHazRPG: loads of linux references allover IT crowd.13:55
HazRPGbrobostigon: I know :P13:55
brobostigon:) sorry,13:55
HazRPGI was actually thinking about watching it :P13:55
HazRPGshauno: do you know if totem's output can be streamed out?13:56
livingdaylightany seen the ZeitgeistMovingForward docu-film?13:56
brobostigonbig bang, is a good example, of the social inept-ness of some geeks.13:56
shaunoHazRPG: honestly no idea.  was just curious if pulseaudio could grab it13:56
HazRPGshauno: heh I just tried totem file.sid > another_file13:57
HazRPGand its blank :(13:57
HazRPGguessing > only works for outputting text13:58
shaunoit shouldn't be only text, but in practice, an audio player isn't going to be using stdout unless it's told to13:58
shaunoI should imagine they default to ... an audio device :)13:59
HazRPGI think its weird how sidplay2 seems to output as a 3:30 song14:00
HazRPGit doesn't seem to ouput just 1 or 2 loops of it14:01
HazRPGmaybe I'm just using it wrong :S14:01
hamitronbbl, gaming time14:06
kaushalis there a way to enable logging for fcron periodical command scheduler ?14:31
Seeker`anyobe on BT having problems accessing wikipedia?14:34
HazRPGSeeker`: check here: isup.me14:34
Seeker`i know eikipedia is up14:34
MartijnVdSBT is censoring?14:35
Seeker`my question is if anyone else on BT is having problems14:35
MartijnVdSSeeker`: try traceroute?14:35
Seeker`dont know, tracert is fine14:35
MartijnVdSSeeker`: sounds like a problem at your end then14:35
HazRPGSeeker`: my friend on voip says he can access wikipedia just fine and he's on BT14:36
Seeker`gets to text.esams.wikimedia.org14:36
Seeker`but browers / wget cant access it14:36
HazRPGSeeker`: what you running on?14:36
Seeker`on any computer on my network14:36
MartijnVdSSeeker`: do you have tcpdump/wireshark installed?14:36
Seeker`XP/Windows 7 qnd mythbuntu14:37
HazRPGSeeker`: ah, well in that case, might sound daft... do a router restart :)14:37
MartijnVdSwireshark is available for both Windows and Ubuntu :)14:37
popeywhat happens when you wget Seeker` ?14:37
Seeker`HazRPG asked what i was running on :)14:37
Seeker`"connection timed out"14:38
Seeker`not just wikipedia either, my irssi shell does the same14:38
MartijnVdSSeeker`: sounds like something is breaking new TCP connections14:38
MartijnVdSi.e. the router14:38
Seeker`MartijnVdS: other sites are fine though14:39
MartijnVdSMaybe path-mtu discovery is broken14:39
MartijnVdS(that happens with PPPoE sometimes)14:39
MartijnVdSI'd reset the router and try again :)14:41
MartijnVdSif that doesn't fix it.. more probing :)14:41
Seeker`just power cycling14:41
MartijnVdSwell maybe wait a few seconds between off and on14:42
MartijnVdSbut yes14:42
Seeker`yeah, 30 seonds14:42
Seeker`waiting for homehub to boot now14:42
Seeker`bah, BTs router is rubbish14:44
Seeker`i need somethibg else with a VDSL modem connection14:44
MartijnVdSFritz!Box 7390 :)14:45
MartijnVdSit's the big brother of the 7340 I have (concurrent dual-band N instead of non-concurrent dual-band N)14:46
Seeker`currently using an old DG834 for the wireless because the HomeHub keeps dropping it14:46
MartijnVdSSeeker`: check that link :)14:46
Seeker`bah, same problem I had with wikipedia now happening with fritzbox.eu14:46
MartijnVdSdid you enable "more firewalling"?14:47
MartijnVdS(than usual)14:47
MartijnVdSSeeker`: I'd start with tcpdump/wireshark then14:48
MartijnVdScheck what part isn't working14:48
Seeker`haven't touched the router settings in weeks14:48
kaushalis there a way to set alert if a particular user sucks Internet Bandwdith among 100 Users in a LAN Environment ?14:56
kaushalI mean if he uses any p2p application like torrents14:56
kaushalI am using shorewall firewall14:56
MartijnVdSipband - daemon for subnet bandwidth monitoring with reporting via email14:57
MartijnVdSkaushal: ^ that what you need?14:57
Seeker`MartijnVdS: Looks like I'm getting "[TCP Previous Segement lost]15:01
Seeker`{TCP Out-of-Order]15:01
MartijnVdSsounds like packet loss15:02
Seeker`bit weird that it only happens on certain sites though?15:03
Seeker`And after restarting my router, some that didn't work before do now15:03
MartijnVdSSeeker`: try "mtr"15:05
MartijnVdSit's a more advanced traceroute tool15:05
Seeker`getting 0% packetloss on mtr www.fritzbox.eu15:08
MartijnVdSnext check :)15:08
MartijnVdSSeeker`: try: ping -s 1500 some_host_that_doesnt_work15:09
MartijnVdSSeeker`: then go down in steps ~100 until it does15:10
MartijnVdSuh wait15:10
MartijnVdSalso add "-M do"15:11
Seeker`From htpc ( icmp_seq=1 Frag needed and DF set (mtu = 1500)15:12
MartijnVdS(1464 is the max here)15:12
MartijnVdSSeeker`: try 1464 :)15:12
Seeker`don't get any output for lower stuff until I get down to -s 90015:12
MartijnVdSSounds like big packets are dropped or something15:13
MartijnVdSdo the sites work if you set:15:13
MartijnVdSip link set eth0 mtu 90015:14
MartijnVdS(change eth0 to your network device)15:14
Seeker`just tried to access the site again without changing anything and it goes through now15:15
MartijnVdSMaybe some engineer is working on the other end15:15
Seeker`just want a net connection that works15:16
Seeker`I wonder if this is the same reason that MSN keeps on dropping15:16
MartijnVdScould be15:16
MartijnVdSthe modem/router could also be broken15:17
MartijnVdSor the wifi AP15:17
Seeker`well, I'm on my wired PC atm15:17
HazRPGshauno: I've just found an archive of a lot of chiptunes from the c6415:32
HazRPGin mp3 format15:32
HazRPGfound the website via the sidplay2.ini file15:32
MartijnVdSso you bought the c64 for nothing? :P15:34
HazRPGseems a group called SOASC has archived as much as he possibly can with an automated process he made up15:34
HazRPGso that the mp3 are made from the genuine output of a c6415:35
HazRPGMartijnVdS: heh, not quite ;)15:35
HazRPGMartijnVdS: I bought it to make my own chiptunes ;)15:35
HazRPGtheir servers are going to have me soon xD15:38
shaunoHazRPG: if you'll excuse the pug; "old".  I thought that was linked from hvsc?15:43
shaunoer, *pun15:43
HazRPGerm... possibly?15:44
HazRPGI only found it, its news to me15:44
HazRPGI've only ever used 8-bit people before this15:44
kaushalMartijnVdS: Thanks16:09
kaushalIt worked16:09
kaushalis there a way to block the specific IP if ipband reports offending LAN IP ?16:10
=== kelman is now known as namlek
czajkowskioh well done to italy they beat France :D16:15
dutchieczajkowski: was close!16:15
czajkowskiso I heard via twitter/irc16:16
danfishtoo close. not sure why France didn't go for the drop goal when on Italy's 2216:17
danfishonly 168 hrs and 37 mins until England demolish the Irish ;)16:23
dutchiedanfish: haha16:59
danfishdutchie: how are the dreaming spires?17:03
dutchiei left them behind today17:04
dutchiedue to end of term17:04
danfishEnd of term?!?!?!? It's only 12th March. When do you go back?17:05
dutchie1st of may17:06
danfishyikes - 6 week break....danfish starts to grumble about students today...:)17:07
MartijnVdSheh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHLyrc-uoIk - "Adam Sweetman"17:09
MartijnVdS(at 6 minutes in, ish)17:10
dutchiedanfish: 8 week terms is not particularly common...17:12
danfishMartijnVdS: now that's a beard17:12
danfishdutchie: true - oxbridge is a bit different....unless you were a post-grad17:13
MartijnVdSdanfish: exactly :) and he has an "undiagnosed medical condition" :P17:13
MartijnVdSdanfish: (working 24 hrs/day)17:13
danfishthat just makes me feel tired on his behalf ;)17:15
danfishnow that's an idea - what if you could sleep on someone else's behalf17:16
MartijnVdSyou'd get Chinese sleep farms17:16
MartijnVdSwhere poor people would get rich sleeping :)17:16
seanh_Hey, was wondering what is the easiest way to make a shared folder between two users on the same Ubuntu system?17:17
danfishyou'd try to get to sleep yourself and an advert would come up on the underside of your eyelid "your sleep has been subcontracted to Beijing Sleep INC, now wake up"17:17
MartijnVdSseanh_: create a new group, add both users to it, create a folder that the group can write to17:17
MartijnVdSseanh_: done :)17:17
seanh_Ok, I'll try that17:18
seanh_But will things written to that folder automatically get the right perms, so that they're shared with the group?17:19
MartijnVdSseanh_: adding a user to a group only takes effect after that user logs out and back in again17:19
MartijnVdSseanh_: they should, yes17:19
MartijnVdSseanh_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions17:20
seanh_Thanks for the link17:29
seanh_There's already a 'users' group with no members. Should I use that?17:40
MartijnVdSyou could17:41
imexilpopey, you seem to live under 2 names ;) See http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/presenter-biographies/17:41
seanh_or maybe it makes more sense to make a specific group for each shared folder17:42
andylockranhowdy guys17:42
andylockranhow's things?17:42
seanh_What's with the Public folder in my home dir by default then?17:44
popeyseanh_: its just a folder17:47
popeylike "Music"17:47
popeyyou can put whatever you like in it17:47
seanh_Is it supposed to be "public" somehow?17:47
seanh_Well that's odd17:48
popeywhat is?17:49
seanh_Why have a folder called Public that is not?17:49
czajkowskiPeeka boo17:49
popeyyou can share it if you like17:49
popeywhy have a Music folder with no music in it17:49
popeythey're just default folders17:49
Neotihey all.17:50
Neotiim looking for a huappage hvr usb satalite connector for my ubuntu 10.10 bax i intend to use it with VDR and XBMC on a Zotac Zbox any ideas or suggestions  ?17:51
popeyimexil: well spotted, that was only edited an hour or so ago17:51
Azelphurany minecrafty people have any suggestions on http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/freeze-craftbukkit.6319/ ?17:51
imexilpopey: wow and I actually just visited the page the first time after the remake17:51
seanh_Gotta logout to test my group folders then17:52
popeyAzelphur: never heard of that17:55
shaunoonly people I know actually using bukkit are the devs :/17:58
MartijnVdSshauno: what's bukkit?18:14
HazRPGMartijnVdS: it's a minecraft server designed to run mods18:18
dutchieMartijnVdS: http://bukkit.org/18:18
HazRPGsorry, server side mods I should say18:18
HazRPGiirc I think it's a replica of the official minecraft server18:19
czajkowskidanfish: you watching the games today18:22
Azelphurpopey: it's nice and fun, I assume it's somehow plugin related but it's corrupted the world18:22
Azelphurand it takes about a week to replicate18:22
Azelphurso trial by error debugging ain't gonna work :D18:23
dutchienever go to bed with a lava bucket18:23
danfishczajkowski: yup, but intermitently - son no 1 has an unidentified vomiting bug :(18:25
czajkowskiwhy does one need to identify it?18:26
danfishhah - true18:26
danfishcome on Ireland!18:26
gingare they winning?18:27
PendulumWales are winning :)18:27
danfishging: there are coming second18:27
czajkowskimuppets took ROG off and brought on Sexton18:27
czajkowskiCOME ON!!!18:29
danfishhandling errors :(18:29
* popey chuckles at directhex's debian wiki edit18:29
czajkowskisuch stupidity18:29
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AlanBellno glyph to use yet18:31
directhexpopey, just did a TWID interview...18:32
MartijnVdSAlanBell: Unicode 6.0, the world's biggest clip art library :)18:33
ali1234yet they still miss the ETS block glyphs18:34
ali1234see ETS 300 706 section 15.718:36
directhexali1234, they have what matters: PILE OF POO and CAT FACE CRYING WITH TEARS OF JOY18:36
MartijnVdSah teletext18:36
MartijnVdSdirecthex: OK, time to close down the internet. We have everything.18:36
MartijnVdSczajkowski: wassup?18:46
PendulumAlanBell: cute18:49
HazRPG... probably going to get whacked in the face but I never understood sports :/18:49
HazRPGor at least the fascination behind it18:49
MartijnVdSHazRPG: try doing them :)18:51
* MartijnVdS doesn't like watching sports18:51
MartijnVdSbut running = the bomb18:51
HazRPGMartijnVdS: I like *doing* sport, just not watching it18:51
HazRPGits like "hurray, those guys are running around... while I sit here munching on this burger *on nom nom*"18:52
HazRPGsports are fun though :)18:53
* HazRPG likes basketball, and badminton18:53
MartijnVdSHaving run my first 20km last week, I can say I'm a runner ;)18:53
HazRPGoh and Frisbee!18:53
MartijnVdSin 1:59:49 (1 hour 10 seconds after #1 :))18:54
HazRPGMartijnVdS: awesome, grats :D18:54
HazRPGbrobostigon: I'm watching IT crowd now :)19:01
MartijnVdSHazRPG: with l33t subtitles?19:01
HazRPGMartijnVdS: does it come with 1337 subs?19:01
MartijnVdSHazRPG: the DVD of season 1 comes with different "special" subs for each episode19:02
MartijnVdSone l33t19:02
MartijnVdSone base6419:02
MartijnVdSand a few others19:02
HazRPGMartijnVdS: haha didn't notice that xD19:03
MartijnVdSHazRPG: I saw them on a boat in Amsterdam with some #lugradio regulars a few years back 8-)19:06
HazRPGMartijnVdS: :o!19:06
brobostigonHazRPG: :)19:06
PendulumMartijnVdS: you were on that boat? I heard it was a good time :)19:07
MartijnVdSPendulum: oh it has a reputation? :)19:08
PendulumMartijnVdS: Xalior is my ex (from ages and ages ago) and one of my good mates now. Plus I've been to Amsterdam on holiday with him since19:09
MartijnVdSPendulum: ah!19:10
* bigcalm collapses19:10
* MartijnVdS gives bigcalm a strong drink to recover19:10
* bigcalm sips his tea19:10
Pendulumbigcalm: how's the great north?19:11
bigcalmWe picked up a pint of milk from the local ASDA so it wouldn't be so horrid19:11
bigcalmPendulum: wet19:11
Pendulumat least it's just wet?19:11
bigcalmPendulum: heavy rain and then snow during our drive up here last night. Got to bed at 2am19:11
MartijnVdSbigcalm: also, more snow approaching19:11
bigcalmAye, we're enjoying the change in scenery19:12
bigcalmMartijnVdS: woop19:12
MartijnVdSneed another spotify playlist? :)19:12
PendulumI have to admit that February and March are not 2 months I would think of to visit Edinburgh19:12
bigcalmMartijnVdS: if you want to make another, sure. But we didn't finish the 1st one19:13
MartijnVdSbigcalm: oh.. so you haven't heard Rick Astley or Crazy Frog yet? :)19:13
bigcalmPendulum: quietish at work, so making the most of it19:13
bigcalmMartijnVdS: my GF is a mad 80s pop fan, and I quite like Astley as well19:13
bigcalmWe can do without the Crazy Frog19:14
MartijnVdSbigcalm: in that case.. I have lots of that on vinyl :)19:14
MartijnVdSbigcalm: I'll make a list19:14
bigcalmFunky :)19:14
bigcalmYou have lots of Astley on vinyl?19:14
MartijnVdSbigcalm: no, just the one 12" of Never Gonna Give You Up19:15
MartijnVdSbigcalm: but loads of 80s pop and new wave19:15
bigcalmSynth FTW!19:15
brobostigonhow do i change the branch a folder within bzr gets pushed to, from lp:~scraliontis/+junk/saab-hybrid too lp:~hydraulic-hybrid/+junk/saab-hybrid ?19:21
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: bzr push --remember lp:~foo19:24
brobostigonMartijnVdS: thank you, let me try, :)19:25
brobostigonMartijnVdS: thank you, worked beautifully. :)19:29
MartijnVdS<-- store of random19:30
bigcalmLets see if minecraft works over a 3g connection19:38
dutchiebigcalm: surely this was a great chance to try and break the addiction :P19:41
bigcalmdutchie: I'm trying to not work...19:41
bigcalmNeed to reset. Toodle pip19:51
nperry_Guys, looking to design a UI for my learning java project.19:53
nperry_Any suggestions for something to create a wireframe type ui?19:53
nperry_(Did ubuntu release what they use for ui proposals)19:53
dutchienperry_: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil/+junk/textmockuptool is interesting19:57
dutchiewith associated blog post http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2011/03/01/textmockuptool19:57
directhexbloody dsl19:59
nperry_thanks dutchie20:00
nperry_Just what Im looking for20:00
TommehAnyone from bytemark/35425 around?20:01
dutchiedon't thank me, thank aq20:01
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=== Rei_FathZipZane is now known as OmNomDePlume
MartijnVdS\o popeyman20:21
Pendulumhiya popey20:21
kvarleypopey: I loved your tweet about the technology insults, didnt realised you could generate QR codes based on text. Been using it a fair bit :)20:26
MartijnVdSWe have a QR with the lyrics to "Never Gonna Give You Up" in the office20:28
dutchieMartijnVdS: haha20:32
MartijnVdSdutchie: "QRick Roll"20:33
azelphurhmm, what would make a server respond to ping but not SSH?21:21
zleapssh server not running21:22
nigelbazelphur: firewall.21:22
azelphuryea I havn't messed with either of those :P21:22
nigelbor yeah, ssh server not running.21:22
azelphurand the ssh server was running21:22
azelphurit was a server with ~150 days uptime and then suddenly it goes off the grid :P21:23
azelphurI'm thinking hardware failure21:23
zleapyou may have to make sure its port forwarding properly on port 22 if you are using it on port 2221:23
nigelbokay, did the server like overload and kick you off ssh?21:23
azelphurnigelb, it was just doing it's usual stuff, hosting my IRC server and game servers21:23
azelphurand then it died :P21:23
nigelbok, I'll lean towards hardware too ;)21:24
azelphurI'm thinking hardware failure21:24
azelphurit responds to ping which is weird21:24
azelphurall the services disappeared, it wouldn't respond to ping, after a hard reboot it responds to ping but no SSH21:24
azelphurseems weird that the hard drive would just go boom though21:29
nigelbazelphur: this calls for http://www.bash.org/?527321:29
nigelb(sort of)21:29
azelphurhaha :D21:29
azelphurI hope the hdd didn't go boom D:21:29
nigelbanyone worked with amazon s3 here?21:30
* nigelb tries to figure out difference between bucket and object21:30
azelphurlol the tech support at the datacenter says a hardware issue would prevent the server from booting altogether21:43
* azelphur thinks someone hasn't done much hardware engineering over the years21:44
popeyazelphur: do you have serial console access?21:49
azelphurnope :(21:50
popeydoesnt sound like hardware failure to me21:51
popeysounds more like it's rebooted and is sat at a fsck prompt21:52
azelphurpopey, maybe, but then why did it go down in the first place :)21:52
popeyservers crash sometimes21:52
popeykernel bug21:52
azelphurLinux servers? never21:52
popeycould well be memory error21:52
popeywhich triggered the reboot21:53
popeybut I'd certainly believe its sat there, on, waiting for someone to press something21:53
popeycan they hook up a serial console?21:53
azelphurthey sent a tech to go look at it anyway so we'll soon find out21:53
* popey drums his fingers21:54
popeywe must know!21:54
azelphurindeed! :P21:55
popeywhere's it hosted?21:55
MonsterKillertech support soon == around 1-2 hours21:55
popeyat rapidswitch we have to pay for console access :(21:55
popey20 quid a pop for an hour or something21:55
popeywe've only needed it once21:55
azelphurwhat did you do? :O21:56
popeyupgraded debian21:56
azelphurah :)21:56
popey 22:03:56 up 90 days, 17:55,  1 user,  load average: 0.17, 0.04, 0.0121:57
popeysince that happened21:57
azelphurhehe, mine was up 150ish21:57
AlanBellI feel an OLPC update coming on21:58
popeywhat kind of storage is in an OLPC AlanBell ?21:58
popeyis it soldered on?21:59
AlanBell1GB of soldered on stuff21:59
AlanBelljffs2 filesystem21:59
AlanBelland an sd card slot21:59
azelphurIt appears that there are file system errors or corruption, FSK is running.22:05
azelphur10 internets for popey!22:06
azelphurhopefully fsck can fix it so I can grab the backups off it.22:06
azelphurit's aliiiive22:06
azelphurnote to self: offsite backups.22:08
MonsterKillerazelphur, ^22:08
popeyazelphur: i use rsnapshot on a box at home22:08
popeyit backs up popey.com, ubuntu-uk and all of lug.org.uk, remotely22:09
AlanBellrdiffbackup ftw22:09
azelphurpopey, does rsync work like version control? or does it not allow you to rollback22:09
popeyit keeps multiple versions22:09
AlanBellerr, no22:09
popeyso i have hourly, daily, weekly, monthly backups22:10
AlanBellrsync doesn't22:10
azelphurah :)22:10
AlanBellrsnapshot does22:10
AlanBelland rdiffbackup22:10
azelphurfun, what do you usually back up with those, the entire filesystem?22:10
AlanBellrdiff-backup does rsync, but keeps the diffs22:10
azelphurvery big download for me :o22:10
popeyexcluding /dev /proc etc22:10
AlanBelland applies them backwards22:10
popeyinitially, yes22:10
popeybut after that its incremental22:10
AlanBellso you always have a pristine copy of today22:10
AlanBelland if you want yesterday it applies the increment to get there22:11
azelphurlovely, just like version control22:11
azelphurI like it :D22:11
popeysounds odd22:11
daftykinspopey: is that to your drobo popey, or?22:11
popeyhp microserver22:11
popeywith 2x 2TB disks22:11
daftykinsah, new gear? RAID 1?22:12
popeysuper cheap server22:12
daftykinsalso hi all ^_^22:12
daftykinsany pics?22:12
MonsterKillerhey daftykins22:12
azelphurwhere I might find the reason for it last shutting down btw? :P22:12
popeyazelphur: you might not22:12
popeybut dmesg22:12
popeythat link was for daftykins btw :)22:13
daftykinsty popey :)22:13
daftykinsi've resurrected a Shuttle SN25P recently, nforce4 with an Athlon64 3500+, 1GB RAM22:13
daftykinsit had a dead gfx card, so i've popped in an nvidia GT 34022:13
daftykinsright this moment typing from a live flash drive of 10.04.1 with nvidia drivers installed :)22:14
daftykins1680x1050 20" LCD in portrait mode :D22:14
daftykinssaid LCD has been sat there next to my two 24's for ages22:15
gordsigh, would love to get another monitor but that will have to be next months expense :( have to get new nintendo this month22:15
daftykinstotal, total overkill22:15
daftykinsgord: which? and why 'have to'? :D22:15
MonsterKillerazelphur, irc server is alive!! ITS ALIIIIVE22:15
daftykinswonder if this beast plays music22:15
azelphurpopey, anything in particular to grep for?22:15
daftykinsazelphur: what broke? :D22:15
popeyanything odd just before it went down22:15
gorddaftykins, 3ds. because i'm a slave to nintendo. my mario hat arrived today, nintendo sent it to me because i have bought sooo many nintendo games22:16
daftykinsgord: lol, i'm going to expose my naivety by asking... really? :)22:16
azelphurpopey dmesg only shows the current session22:17
azelphurdoesn't show anything before booting o.O22:17
popeythere's older ones in /var/log22:17
popeyls -ltrh /var/log22:17
popeylook for ones older than boot up time22:17
azelphurnope, I see nothing :P22:20
azelphurmight have been a power outage.22:20
popeywell, if it was a hardware error, chances are you wont see anything22:20
azelphuroh well, no harm done and it's a nice incentive to get rsnapshot going :P22:21
popeyor rdiffbackup :)22:22
Azelphur_indeed :)22:22
Azelphur_gah, hate the +R bug on this network22:22
Azelphur_+r rather22:22
Azelphur_if you join a channel that's +r, you have to auth to speak or change your nick, but you can't auth without changing your nick :D22:23
popeyyou could group your nicks22:23
Azelphurthere we go :)22:24
popeyyou could group your nicks22:25
Azelphurtrue I could register Azelphur_ and group it haha22:25
Azelphurbut that seems strange to me :D22:25
popeyhmm, feeling peckish22:26
daftykinsAthlon64's still feel quite pokey :)22:26
popeyi have some raw prawns, butter and garlic, this could be the start of a good meal between this episode of Railway Walks and the next22:26
daftykinshow's natty running by the way, anyone?22:27
daftykinsi think i'll be making a permanent Ubuntu installation on this Shuttle soon, so i've just to pick a version22:27
Azelphurdaftykins: seems ok to me, I'm running natty now22:27
* popey goes to make food22:28
Azelphurone thing that bugs me is ctrl+shift+(c|v) doesn't seem to work in gnome-terminal any more22:28
Azelphurhave to right click paste o.O22:28
popeyfiled a bug?22:28
daftykinsctrl+v has never worked in gnome-terminal for me22:28
Azelphurshift+ins works and now ctrl+shift+v works too, guess it was fixed in an update that I didn't notice22:28
popeyhe said crtl+shift+v22:28
Azelphurdaftykins: ctrl+shift+v is paste :P22:28
popeynot ctrl+v22:28
daftykinsoh sorry, on meds for my eyes right now22:29
daftykins(no joke)22:29
daftykinsif i open a gnome-term and ctrl+shift+v i don't get anything22:29
daftykinsbut i do for shift+insert22:29
daftykins(on 10.04.1)22:29
Azelphurfun, it's always worked for me22:30
daftykinsam i being dense ^_^22:30
daftykinshi zleap22:31
zleaphow are things22:31
daftykinsnot bad ta ^_^ yourself?22:32
zleapi am putting to gether a cd wallet with useful cd in22:32
zleapso 10.04 lts, 10.10, clonezilla, system rescue cd22:32
daftykinsneat plan22:33
popeyyay, i have some haggis!22:33
daftykinsi usually carry around my flash drive with all common windows updates, service packs, windows CDs, Ubuntu CDs, etc.22:33
daftykinsand a live ubuntu flash drive22:33
zleapsounds good22:33
daftykinswhere i'm teaching, the students are quite privileged to have USB boot capable Pentium 4 HP clients on the training network22:34
daftykinsso it's good for them :D22:34
zleapdo you teach any LInux stuff22:34
daftykinsif only the syllabus contained any22:34
gingdaftykins: have you seen those virtual rom drives you can get?22:34
daftykinsi'm just helping out since November really, no experience of teaching before that22:35
daftykinsand more inclined not to get any, now :D22:35
daftykinsging nope?22:35
zleapi will put in a copy of ther open disc22:36
zleapcan i just download windows service packs22:36
gingdaftykins: saw 1 at lug meeting today, basicly it's a usb hard drive that you can fill with live cds and you can flick through them on a little lcd display and it servs them up as a virtual cdrom22:37
daftykinsclever idea22:37
gingthey arn't that cheap though, because they are just a caddy you have to buy your own 2.5" hdd to go in them22:38
daftykinsmmm, only worth it for the properly dedicated support types methinks22:40
gingi shall get 1 next time i get paid i think22:41
daftykinsthere we go, in its' totally unjustified glory; http://i.imgur.com/ggRGP.jpg22:47
daftykinsAzelphur: look out ^ ;)22:47
daftykinsi'm a chasin'!22:47
Azelphurhaha :P22:47
Azelphurwtf I'm only getting 330B/sec from my server via sshfs22:48
daftykinswhat's normal?22:48
Azelphuroh there it goes now it's speeding up, weird22:48
Azelphurwell baring in mind I'm not on a 300 baud modem22:48
Azelphuryea we're off now, it's climbing rapidly past 100KB/sec, that'll do :D22:48
zleapok smoothwall done 32 / 64 bit versions22:52
daftykinszleap: the free one? polar v3?22:59
zleapi think its the free one (express)22:59
zleapver 322:59
daftykinsi miss running a smoothwall23:00
AlanBellyay, OLPC flashage in progress23:00
zleapwell i will make the cd's up and then they are ther if people locally need one at a lug meet23:00
daftykinsif i considered more of my income disposable i'd build a tiny little mATX router PC probably23:00
zleapcan just give them a copy or we may find it useful23:00
zleapdaftykins, yeah i could do with building a new pc23:03
daftykinscurrent one getting old?23:03
zleapi have a duron 160023:03
zleapwith geforce 4 graphics23:03
daftykinsno cash for cache eh ;)23:03
zleapbut it works fine23:03
zleapa newer one would just have a decent graphics card,  unless I can swap the one in there for a better one23:04
daftykinsAGP constrained i take it?23:04
daftykinsAlanBell: what's being changed from and to?23:04
daftykinsmmm i've seen nvidia 7600GTs i think as top-end for AGP23:04
zleapbut a newer one would be less likely to faily suddenly23:05
zleapwell i am also on legacy drivers, which could make me stuck on ubuntu 10.04 or 10.1023:05
daftykinsi don't think i'll upgrade for a while23:05
daftykinsmaybe a graphics card if Portal 2 ever shows up :)23:06
daftykinszomg it's out next month23:06
AlanBelldaftykins: just a newer version of the fedora based standard build23:06
zleaptime to save up me thinks :)23:06
daftykinsi did look at the market recently, 200 pound nvidia geforce GTX 560 Ti 's seem to be the best at the moment23:07
daftykinsin the nvidia camp that is23:07
zleapi am sure some of the atom boards have a ion graphics + nvidia23:08
zleapor something like that23:08
hamitronthere was a 7800 GS for agp23:08
hamitronbut not much better23:08
zleapthat would probably work fine for me23:08
daftykinszleap: yeah my HTPC is an Ion nettop23:09
zleapi may see if I can ask if I can swap my graphics for something else building computers at a local youth project so hae lots of parts23:09
daftykinsneat :D23:09
zleapi am sure they have newer, and the computers will be internet mainly so my geforce 4 would be fine23:09
zleapok they are running 9.04 atm23:10
hamitronnothing wrong with a geforce 423:10
hamitronmy 5th comp here has a 4800SE23:10
zleap5th I have 2 here,23:11
hamitronlove the VIVO23:11
daftykinsah the strange edition23:11
daftykinsi remember the Ti 4200, 4400, 4600 era :)23:11
daftykinsin fact i even remember a colourful albatron ti4680 i had23:11
zleapother computer currently runs some other OPerating system from er redmond23:11
zleapwhich if the open disc was on cd I could use to test23:12
zleapbut its on dvd and said puter has a cd drive23:12
daftykinsflash drive time :)23:12
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zleapgood idea23:14
* zleap should have thought of that, i need to get a few more of those23:14
zleapthing is i want different colours so they are easy to identify which is which23:15
daftykinsi have a 16GB corsair flash voyager GT for super fast capacity for all the service packs, updates and utilities to carry around23:16
daftykinsthen a silver flash survivor 8GB with ubuntu on23:16
daftykinsalso by corsair23:16
daftykinsand a super cheap 4GB flash voyager mini :D23:16
* hamitron is too lazy to plug usb in23:17
hamitronI am too cheap to buy a new case that has front ports23:18
AlanBellOLPC upgraded and overclocked \o/23:18
hamitronI got my new comp running23:19
popeyhamitron: there is a metric boatload of sand in the brick house behind seans castle23:21
hamitroncastle near start point?23:22
popeymore than you could possibly want23:22
popeytake it all :)23:22
hamitronneed to get minecraft working first though23:23
hamitronnot even got vmware tools installed yet23:23
popeyi think i need to buy a copy for my kids23:24
popeyso we can play together23:24
popeyat the moment we're playing one at a time23:24
hamitronon same server?23:24
AlanBellI have installed it on the kids computer23:24
popeyyeah, maybe run a second instance at home just for us23:25
popeyif you logon twice on two computers with same user id, you get kicked :(23:25
hamitronI thought I was gonna ahve to clean up my act :D23:25
popeynah, maybe my daughter might visit the popey server23:25
popeyi printed out a copy of the crafting page for them both23:26
popeysam went to the den and pulled all the paper (printed) out of the printer and layed them out on the floor23:26
popeyso i had to re-sort them :)23:26
hamitronthe chores involved with fatherhood ;/23:26
hamitronthat, or the stupidity of getting them into this game ;D23:27
popeyhey hamitron23:27
popeyer HazRPG23:27
HazRPGpopey: yeah?23:27
HazRPGhowdy :)23:28
HazRPGI feel a question coming on...23:29
HazRPGalthough I could be wrong23:29
* daftykins switches on the anti-question device23:29
HazRPGguess not :P23:31
daftykinsHazRPG: naw go on ;)23:32
HazRPGdaftykins: no I thought popey was going to ask me a question ^^23:33
* HazRPG is curious as to the choice of words of "er"23:33
daftykinsoh :D23:34
HazRPGpopey: hmm, just read earlier comments - you could always set your sever up as "online = off"23:34
HazRPG"online = off" is just to stop people using the same logon more than once (and to stop those without a proper account)23:36
HazRPGsorry I mean "online = on"23:36
popeyoh i see23:36
HazRPGnot that I condone it of course, but you could get your kids logging in using an alt. version23:37
HazRPGoh, and online parameter is also the reason why when the minecraft site is down people can't login at all - its sort of an authenticity check23:39
hamitronis 500fps on glxgears bad?23:42
daftykinssounds pretty low23:43
CepheusI'm getting 15000 so that is quite low23:44
hamitronoh dear23:44
daftykinsi'd run it but mesa-utils apparently doesn't have an installation candidate :D23:44
hamitronmaybe should restart this virtual machine23:45
daftykinsoh that's performance in a VM?23:45
Cepheusthat might be your problem.23:45
hamitronit isn't a problem tbh23:45
hamitronjust want the best I can get23:45
CepheusVMs don't do HW accel, except for some very rough stuff in virtualbox that is buggy and not much faster23:45
hamitronbrb, restart23:48

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