[00:01] hmmm [00:02] reference intel cooler is working better than I expected [00:06] good night everyone, sleep well. [00:06] laters o/ [00:06] good night hamitron [00:08] quit [01:19] 25 fps to 64 fps [01:19] :) [02:22] question concerning the meaning of a phrase in the UK region [02:22] anyone able to help me out? [02:26] maybe [02:26] cprofitt: only if you ask :P [02:26] bear in mind it's 2:30am in the uk region [02:26] Azelphur: if someone said "the person is nagging me to death" would that have a positive or negative connotation in the UK [02:26] negative [02:26] yes, I know it is late... apologies for that [02:26] it means ranting [02:26] Azelphur: thanks... someone told me the opposite and I did not think they were being honest [02:27] yea they arn't :P [02:27] I did not think death would ever be considered a good thing [02:27] cprofitt: like for example if you walked through the door and I started on how you hadn't done the dishes and you havn't taken the trash out and you havn't tidied your room .etc etc [02:27] I would be nagging :P [02:28] so it is meant the same way in the UK as it is in the states [02:28] guess so :D [02:28] exact quote: Nag to death in the UK means that they are keen and eager, [02:28] always seeking further and additional work. [02:28] um... no. [02:28] I did not see that to be honest [02:28] I appreciate the feedback [02:36] generally, anything being done to death is bad ;) [02:47] lol [02:48] kind figured that [03:01] other than a few, ahem, vigorous activities [03:02] anyway, 3am means bed [03:15] pfft, sleep is for the weak [07:06] aloha [07:10] hi [08:07] [Jonathan Riddell] conf.kde.in Slides II - http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4398 [08:57] hello all [08:58] AlanBell: checking stats again? ;) [08:58] hello czajkowski Martiini [09:01] MooDoo: hi [09:03] czajkowski: how are you this fine day? [09:05] grand up hours though [09:07] czajkowski: ouch how come? work? [09:10] housemate getting sick since before 7 [09:10] czajkowski: `inconsiderate of them ;) [09:11] self inflicted drinking [09:11] czajkowski: slap them :) === jamespage1 is now known as jamespage [09:20] Morning [09:42] !echo [09:44] ello [09:50] Hmmm.... I'm theoretically stuck in Oxford + surrounding are until 5..... and bored already [09:50] daubers: you at work then ;) [09:51] yay, oxford [09:51] although i am leaving in ~2 hours [09:57] MooDoo: No, missus has an exam so to be nice as she was fretting I offered to drive her in [10:00] daubers: :) [10:01] Suppose I could get another coffee and start moving my email over to gmail.... [10:01] daubers: gmail ftw! [10:02] means I could also start moving away from evolution... [10:02] good idea :) [10:02] daubers: i made that change months ago :) [10:02] i think it's worth it [10:03] MooDoo: The second time an update overwrote my postfix conf without asking made me really really consider it [10:03] daubers: ouch [10:05] Also, tempted to beat people overly panicking about Fukushima with a big stick [10:05] daubers: BUT IT'S NUCULAR [10:05] MartijnVdS: So are some of the rocks in your garden! [10:05] i could of punched and american over his comments about the japan incident yesterday [10:06] daubers: Good thing I don't have a garden! :) [10:06] MartijnVdS: Have you got a watch with a glow in the dark dial? [10:06] Morning everyone [10:07] Morning popey [10:07] daubers: You don't have to convince me, I'm just being annoying, sorry ;) [10:16] morning popey [10:16] morning all [10:17] Ahoy from Scottyland [10:17] \o bigcalm [10:17] bigcalm: was the music good? :) [10:18] och aye the noo [10:18] A good and interesting mix, thank you :) [10:18] no idea what I just said there [10:18] AlanBell: something exceedingly racist no doubt :P [10:18] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotticism [10:19] Heavy rain and then heavy snow on our drive up last night [10:19] Got to bed at 2am :S [10:20] right, google apps setup [10:21] just have to wait for dns rubbish to hit it's ttl now [10:22] * daubers goes to find people to annoy for a couple of hours [10:22] I do enjoy the USB teather that means I don't have to fork out for PremierInn's wifi :) [10:22] hi! where i can find gnome_volume_control configuration file? [10:26] graftrahula: what's the problem you're trying to solve? :) [10:26] graftrahula: (because "manually poking at the g-v-c config file" usually isn't the right solution :)) [10:29] every time after reboot only front speakers are working.in controls LFE surround and front are mute [10:29] GAH [10:29] Why am I looking at the error log I set up yesterday? [10:30] This is the down side to having 'net access anywhere [10:30] bigcalm: Close your terminal windows. Go to the gf. [10:30] MartijnVdS: she's busy with lady things [10:31] I've closed the terminal though [10:35] daubers: http://i.imgur.com/Unyfz.jpg [10:41] dead silence... [10:42] graftrahula: sounds like an alsa thing [10:42] bigcalm: lady things :) [10:42] I am not even going to speculate what that might be! :D [10:43] popey: yep! [10:44] popey: having a wash :P [10:44] coz blokes don't do that! [10:46] AlanBell: why would we? [10:46] Trying to find a car park in Edinburgh at the moment [10:46] Easier said than done === bigcalm is now known as HaylesT [10:51] Aloha [10:52] ooh, he's finally got hayley on irc [10:52] (i assume) [10:52] poor girl [10:52] HaylesT: whooo [10:52] :D [10:53] * czajkowski frowns at popey [10:53] czajkowski, Aloha === HaylesT is now known as bigcalm [10:56] livingdaylight: hi there hows you [10:56] Maybe I'll get Hayley on here some day :) [10:56] Hi peeps :) [11:00] шалом [11:01] peace to you to [11:01] o [11:02] Laptop speakers really are quite silly to be listening to music with [11:02] they're quite silly period :) [11:03] Might as well just have an 8ohm system beep speaker [11:03] HELP! syslinux is giving me a headache .. Im unable to boot /dev/sdb2 on usb-stick ...someone .. please help me configure syslinux correctly [11:04] Time to find a car park! [11:04] Laters peeps :) [11:18] hola [11:22] danfish, hola [11:25] :) a lie in for once and good weather. All is good. [11:27] good morning everyone. [11:30] brobostigon: good morning squire ^^ [11:30] danfish, you're not in Japan then? [11:31] HazRPG: good morning, :) [11:31] lo brobostigon [11:31] good morning danfish :) [11:31] \o mornin' everyone [11:31] livingdaylight: heh - thankfully no [11:32] wonder who thought it was a good idea to build a nuclear reactor on a falt line? hrmph... :s [11:32] no "click" it seems on bbc news, :( [11:32] I'm not one to panic, but someone down the pub reckons that nuclear reactor is going to grow and grow and melt through to the core of the Earth and then explode and we'll all be dead ;) [11:33] danfish: lol. :) [11:33] My local is not known for it's nuclear physicists [11:33] mine is alittle better, alot of clever and intelligant people go there. [11:34] including some of the best chess players in the country. [12:07] [Dan Fish] Upstart and Python - http://www.ossmedicine.org/ubuntu/03/upstart-and-python/ === Dre_Doctorsame is now known as OmNomSequitur [13:01] Martiini: what is up with the stick with syslinux on it then? you are trying to install ubuntu from USB or run it live? [13:02] I want to make syslinux boot opensuse on /dev/sdb2 on usb stick [13:02] with no luck this far [13:02] ah, well I think you would be best off asking that question in #opensuse [13:09] where are the ssh daemon logs? [13:13] brobostigon: /var/log/auth.log? [13:14] hmm, I thought SID 6581 was better than 8580... but I've noticed on this demo I currently have loaded that ReSID 8580 plays back a sound that isn't on the ReSID 6581 >_< [13:14] * HazRPG very confused now [13:14] sounds so much better under the 8580 [13:14] HazRPG: 8 bit geekery :) [13:15] MooDoo: thank you. [13:15] brobostigon: you're welcome [13:16] :) [13:16] MartijnVdS: heh yeah [13:18] MartijnVdS: is the c64 actually 8-bit music? Considering it has the least audio channels :S? [13:19] I know each sound is produced with 8 bits of data [13:19] ... [13:19] HazRPG: I assume it's 8 bit then :) [13:19] despite its lack of channels? [13:20] no, if you only have 8 bits to define output signal, it's 8-bit sound :) [13:20] makes sense I guess :) [13:29] VICE doesn't seem to like playing some of these demos all the time xD [13:29] its like a 50/50 game [13:29] "maybe I'll run it this time... maybe I won't! [13:32] time for percussive maintenance [13:32] (that worked back in those days) [13:33] ? [13:33] HazRPG: whacking computer to make it work :) [13:33] HazRPG: "percussive maintenance" [13:33] haha [13:33] just like the old ... "give 'er a good blow" technique ;) [13:34] MartijnVdS: can't whack a emulator though dude ;) [13:35] HazRPG: not really, no.. [13:35] can do the "kill" command on it... and start again... guess that's sort of like whacking it [13:38] HazRPG: kill -0 :) [13:45] argh! so annoying that the same sound can be emulated a million different ways >_< [13:45] anyone know what totem uses to play sid files? [13:45] heh, so glad I have different password for nickserv to everything else [13:46] :/ [13:46] hamitron: what did you do :P? [13:46] used a different IRC client, and auto joined #ubuntu [13:46] and typed "id ....." [13:47] :P [13:47] prob get banned for the rude password [13:47] haha [13:47] :P [13:47] I thought you had to type out identify out fully :/ [13:48] :\ [13:49] HI Mandrake [13:51] really bugging me now [13:51] just converted a sid file to wav using sidplay -w path/to/sid/file.sid [13:51] but it sounds so different to how totem plays it :S [13:52] big bang theory, ch4+1 :) [13:52] and the totem way sounds WAYYYYY much cooler [13:52] brobostigon: winner! [13:52] ah fudge [13:52] my TV won't pick it up :/ [13:52] they killed analogue [13:52] HazRPG: my mum calls it,that geeky program, [13:52] I completely forgot when I was trying to tune it the other day [13:52] HazRPG: if 10 people play the same song, they'll play in 10 different ways. and none are wrong :p [13:53] brobostigon: hehe, my sister calls it the american IT crowd thing [13:53] shauno: which is why I'm trying to record it as a .ogg/.mp3 :P [13:53] HazRPG: she isnt far off, but also along way away. [13:53] is there a way to stream out what totem plays into a file? [13:54] brobostigon: she loves it though :P [13:54] HazRPG: doesn't it use pulse? couldn't you use the same instructions you were giving for recording mumble? [13:54] HazRPG: it crowd or big bang? [13:54] I think she's just too use to having me around that the geeky references are sort of rubbing off on her [13:54] brobostigon: big bang theory [13:54] HazRPG: yay :) [13:54] not sure if she's seen IT crowd... [13:54] HazRPG: thts good. [13:55] there must be a way to grab out the totem stream ... right? [13:55] HazRPG: loads of linux references allover IT crowd. [13:55] :) [13:55] brobostigon: I know :P [13:55] :) sorry, [13:55] I was actually thinking about watching it :P [13:56] shauno: do you know if totem's output can be streamed out? [13:56] any seen the ZeitgeistMovingForward docu-film? [13:56] big bang, is a good example, of the social inept-ness of some geeks. [13:56] HazRPG: honestly no idea. was just curious if pulseaudio could grab it [13:57] shauno: heh I just tried totem file.sid > another_file [13:57] and its blank :( [13:58] guessing > only works for outputting text [13:58] it shouldn't be only text, but in practice, an audio player isn't going to be using stdout unless it's told to [13:59] I should imagine they default to ... an audio device :) [14:00] I think its weird how sidplay2 seems to output as a 3:30 song [14:01] it doesn't seem to ouput just 1 or 2 loops of it [14:01] maybe I'm just using it wrong :S [14:06] bbl, gaming time [14:06] :) [14:31] hi [14:31] is there a way to enable logging for fcron periodical command scheduler ? [14:34] anyobe on BT having problems accessing wikipedia? [14:34] Seeker`: check here: isup.me [14:34] i know eikipedia is up [14:35] BT is censoring? [14:35] my question is if anyone else on BT is having problems [14:35] Seeker`: try traceroute? [14:35] dont know, tracert is fine [14:35] Seeker`: sounds like a problem at your end then [14:36] Seeker`: my friend on voip says he can access wikipedia just fine and he's on BT [14:36] gets to text.esams.wikimedia.org [14:36] but browers / wget cant access it [14:36] Seeker`: what you running on? [14:36] on any computer on my network [14:36] Seeker`: do you have tcpdump/wireshark installed? [14:37] XP/Windows 7 qnd mythbuntu [14:37] Seeker`: ah, well in that case, might sound daft... do a router restart :) [14:37] wireshark is available for both Windows and Ubuntu :) [14:37] indeed [14:37] what happens when you wget Seeker` ? [14:37] HazRPG asked what i was running on :) [14:38] "connection timed out" [14:38] not just wikipedia either, my irssi shell does the same [14:38] Seeker`: sounds like something is breaking new TCP connections [14:38] i.e. the router [14:39] MartijnVdS: other sites are fine though [14:39] Maybe path-mtu discovery is broken [14:39] (that happens with PPPoE sometimes) [14:41] I'd reset the router and try again :) [14:41] if that doesn't fix it.. more probing :) [14:41] just power cycling [14:42] well maybe wait a few seconds between off and on [14:42] but yes [14:42] yeah, 30 seonds [14:42] waiting for homehub to boot now [14:44] bah, BTs router is rubbish [14:44] i need somethibg else with a VDSL modem connection [14:45] Fritz!Box 7390 :) [14:45] http://www.fritzbox.eu/en/products/FRITZBox_Fon_WLAN_7390/index.php [14:46] it's the big brother of the 7340 I have (concurrent dual-band N instead of non-concurrent dual-band N) [14:46] currently using an old DG834 for the wireless because the HomeHub keeps dropping it [14:46] Seeker`: check that link :) [14:46] bah, same problem I had with wikipedia now happening with fritzbox.eu [14:47] did you enable "more firewalling"? [14:47] (than usual) [14:47] nope [14:48] Seeker`: I'd start with tcpdump/wireshark then [14:48] check what part isn't working [14:48] haven't touched the router settings in weeks [14:56] is there a way to set alert if a particular user sucks Internet Bandwdith among 100 Users in a LAN Environment ? [14:56] I mean if he uses any p2p application like torrents [14:56] I am using shorewall firewall [14:57] ipband - daemon for subnet bandwidth monitoring with reporting via email [14:57] kaushal: ^ that what you need? [14:58] ok [15:01] MartijnVdS: Looks like I'm getting "[TCP Previous Segement lost] [15:01] then [15:01] {TCP Out-of-Order] [15:02] sounds like packet loss [15:03] bit weird that it only happens on certain sites though? [15:03] And after restarting my router, some that didn't work before do now [15:05] Seeker`: try "mtr" [15:05] it's a more advanced traceroute tool [15:08] getting 0% packetloss on mtr www.fritzbox.eu [15:08] ok [15:08] next check :) [15:09] Seeker`: try: ping -s 1500 some_host_that_doesnt_work [15:10] Seeker`: then go down in steps ~100 until it does [15:10] uh wait [15:11] also add "-M do" [15:12] From htpc (192.168.1.66) icmp_seq=1 Frag needed and DF set (mtu = 1500) [15:12] (1464 is the max here) [15:12] Seeker`: try 1464 :) [15:12] don't get any output for lower stuff until I get down to -s 900 [15:13] Sounds like big packets are dropped or something [15:13] do the sites work if you set: [15:14] ip link set eth0 mtu 900 [15:14] (change eth0 to your network device) [15:15] wtf [15:15] just tried to access the site again without changing anything and it goes through now [15:15] Maybe some engineer is working on the other end [15:16] -_- [15:16] just want a net connection that works [15:16] I wonder if this is the same reason that MSN keeps on dropping [15:16] could be [15:17] the modem/router could also be broken [15:17] or the wifi AP [15:17] well, I'm on my wired PC atm [15:32] shauno: I've just found an archive of a lot of chiptunes from the c64 [15:32] in mp3 format [15:32] found the website via the sidplay2.ini file [15:34] so you bought the c64 for nothing? :P [15:34] seems a group called SOASC has archived as much as he possibly can with an automated process he made up [15:35] so that the mp3 are made from the genuine output of a c64 [15:35] MartijnVdS: heh, not quite ;) [15:35] MartijnVdS: I bought it to make my own chiptunes ;) [15:38] http://ftp.df.lth.se/pub/media/soasc/soasc_mp3/ [15:38] their servers are going to have me soon xD [15:43] HazRPG: if you'll excuse the pug; "old". I thought that was linked from hvsc? [15:43] er, *pun [15:44] erm... possibly? [15:44] I only found it, its news to me [15:44] I've only ever used 8-bit people before this [16:09] MartijnVdS: Thanks [16:09] It worked [16:10] is there a way to block the specific IP if ipband reports offending LAN IP ? === kelman is now known as namlek [16:14] Afternoon [16:15] oh well done to italy they beat France :D [16:15] czajkowski: was close! [16:16] so I heard via twitter/irc [16:17] too close. not sure why France didn't go for the drop goal when on Italy's 22 [16:17] yeah [16:23] only 168 hrs and 37 mins until England demolish the Irish ;) [16:59] danfish: haha [17:03] dutchie: how are the dreaming spires? [17:04] i left them behind today [17:04] due to end of term [17:05] End of term?!?!?!? It's only 12th March. When do you go back? [17:06] 1st of may [17:07] yikes - 6 week break....danfish starts to grumble about students today...:) [17:09] heh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHLyrc-uoIk - "Adam Sweetman" [17:10] (at 6 minutes in, ish) [17:12] danfish: 8 week terms is not particularly common... [17:12] MartijnVdS: now that's a beard [17:13] dutchie: true - oxbridge is a bit different....unless you were a post-grad [17:13] danfish: exactly :) and he has an "undiagnosed medical condition" :P [17:13] danfish: (working 24 hrs/day) [17:15] that just makes me feel tired on his behalf ;) [17:16] now that's an idea - what if you could sleep on someone else's behalf [17:16] you'd get Chinese sleep farms [17:16] where poor people would get rich sleeping :) [17:16] haha [17:17] Hey, was wondering what is the easiest way to make a shared folder between two users on the same Ubuntu system? [17:17] you'd try to get to sleep yourself and an advert would come up on the underside of your eyelid "your sleep has been subcontracted to Beijing Sleep INC, now wake up" [17:17] seanh_: create a new group, add both users to it, create a folder that the group can write to [17:17] seanh_: done :) [17:18] Ok, I'll try that [17:19] But will things written to that folder automatically get the right perms, so that they're shared with the group? [17:19] seanh_: adding a user to a group only takes effect after that user logs out and back in again [17:19] seanh_: they should, yes [17:19] Cool [17:20] seanh_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [17:29] Thanks for the link [17:40] There's already a 'users' group with no members. Should I use that? [17:41] you could [17:41] popey, you seem to live under 2 names ;) See http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/presenter-biographies/ [17:42] or maybe it makes more sense to make a specific group for each shared folder [17:42] howdy guys [17:42] how's things? [17:44] What's with the Public folder in my home dir by default then? [17:47] seanh_: its just a folder [17:47] like "Music" [17:47] you can put whatever you like in it [17:47] Is it supposed to be "public" somehow? [17:48] no [17:48] Well that's odd [17:49] what is? [17:49] Why have a folder called Public that is not? [17:49]