| elky | AlanBell, in regards to the edits you made to that page, I was going to have a separate area for the "how it works" stuff (didn't get aorund to doing it). | 06:23 |
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| elky | What we have now is going to completely not reach out to the people I intended the first version for, which is the people who are going to look at what you've written and get confused and flail and continue to not engage | 06:23 |
| pleia2 | elky: oh, sorry | 06:24 |
| pleia2 | I didn't realize what your vision for the page was :\ | 06:24 |
| elky | pleia2, it was for this purpose absolutely, but it was incomplete | 06:25 |
| elky | we need both kinds of instructions, absolutely | 06:25 |
| pleia2 | we can just copy the edits to the new page, I was just trying to get things moving so we could switch to default soon | 06:26 |
| elky | but every time I've put out a "please help with the wiki" there've been mails like "how do wikis work?!?" | 06:26 |
| elky | pleia2, yes I know, appreciated | 06:26 |
| pleia2 | so we'll have one page for people who just want to view the new theme and give feedback, and one for people actually doing the actual header/footer/etc migration? | 06:27 |
| elky | or both on the same page, the latter people will scroll, the former people wont | 06:27 |
| * pleia2 nods | 06:28 | |
| elky | I'm absolutely positive we have talented programmers on the list who would be really useful if they could get up to speed with the collaborative tools that unis don't teach | 06:29 |
| elky | and to be honest, wikis intimidate me a bit because I try to think past them | 06:29 |
| AlanBell | oh OK | 07:47 |
| AlanBell | do you want me to write something to answer the "how do wikis work?!?" question? | 07:50 |
| elky | It'd be handy. In a non-syntax way. | 08:01 |
| AlanBell | not sure how to avoid talking about syntax | 08:44 |
| AlanBell | anyhow, I will have a think about that later | 08:44 |
| elky | AlanBell, er, have *two* sections? Not everyone needs to be able to do every part of it. It'd be wonderful to have some people just looking at it going "this looks wrong" | 09:47 |
| elky | and I'd like to have some instructions for them that won't scare them off by listing off "include this, use this special code" | 09:47 |
| AlanBell | yes, I was thinking of a whole other page on how wikis work | 10:09 |
| AlanBell | just needs to be introductory level but not patronising | 10:10 |
| elky | Pendulum, he's creeping out the dude ops who noted him join there after being banned from offtopic days ago. | 12:49 |
| Pendulum | wow | 12:49 |
| Tm_T | even without those bans, he's creeping | 12:50 |
| Tm_T | oh well, I'll continue my cleaning duties -> | 12:51 |
| AlanBell | the help pages in the wiki are actually rather good | 13:16 |
| AlanBell | http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/HelpForUsers and http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/WikiCourse | 13:18 |
| Tm_T | Crossposting, but, this discussion is raised again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Female_editors_on_wikipedia_low | 14:00 |
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| pleia2 | AlanBell: thanks for posting the logs and updating the topic | 17:29 |
| pleia2 | I'm going to be out of town for the next meeting (an actual vacation in puerto rico!) so we'll need to find someone else to chair | 17:30 |
| Pendulum | pleia2: I didn't know you were allowed proper holidays :P | 17:39 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 17:40 |
| pleia2 | as with everything I'm going because my boyfriend is attending a conference there sun-wednesday (free hotel in the carribean? I'm coming!!!) | 17:41 |
| valorie | this page: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/WikiCourse/14%20Text%20styles has "strongly" misspelled as "stronly" - twice | 22:28 |
| valorie | I'd fix it, but it is immutable | 22:29 |
| AlanBell | that would be a bug in moin | 22:30 |
| AlanBell | those are all standard help pages | 22:30 |
| valorie | hmmm | 22:30 |
| AlanBell | http://moinmo.in/WikiCourse/14%20Text%20styles | 22:31 |
| AlanBell | fixed upstream though | 22:31 |
| AlanBell | and of course broken on w.u.c https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiCourse/14%20Text%20styles | 22:31 |
| AlanBell | if they upgrade wiki.ubuntu.com it would be interesting to see if that gets fixed | 22:32 |
| valorie | heh, I see a "fistname" too | 22:34 |
| valorie | hopefully fixed in the next version | 22:35 |
| AlanBell | what do you think of the help pages valorie? | 23:02 |
| valorie | very good, nice and clear | 23:03 |
| valorie | I need to look at the other | 23:03 |
| valorie | of course I ' | 23:04 |
| valorie | ve been using MediaWiki | 23:04 |
| valorie | so it's a bit different | 23:04 |
| valorie | but good to learn them all | 23:04 |
| pleia2 | we were using tikiwiki at work for a while, I convinced my boss to switch to moin because switching between the two was making my brain hurt | 23:05 |
| valorie | I think the Amarok wiki is still a third one | 23:05 |
| valorie | and yes, it does make my brain work | 23:05 |
| valorie | and hurt | 23:06 |
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