[17:15] <chrisccoulson> is anyone else having problems accessing launchpad?
[17:15] <chrisccoulson> it's *really* slow here
[17:15] <pau> u
[18:25] <lifeless> chrisccoulson: hi, just looking
[18:27] <lifeless> chrisccoulson: there appears to be about 250ms of in-dc queueing at the moment
[18:27] <lifeless> chrisccoulson: not sure why
[18:28] <lifeless> chrisccoulson: will investigate when a losa starts their day
[18:28] <chrisccoulson> lifeless, cool, thanks!
[18:29] <lifeless> chrisccoulson: that shouldn't make lp feel /really/ slow though. Are all pages slow foryou ?
[18:30] <chrisccoulson> lifeless, i submitted a bug that took a couple of attempts, but that might be because of the attachment
[18:30] <lifeless> chrisccoulson: could be bug 637854
[18:31] <lifeless> chrisccoulson: or bug 726175
[18:31] <lifeless> oh thats interesting
[18:31] <lifeless> hmm, loaded for me, 1.8 seconds
[18:31] <lifeless> bug bug 637854
[18:32] <lifeless> chrisccoulson: did you get an OOPS code?
[18:32] <chrisccoulson> i don't remember seeing an OOPS code
[18:32] <lifeless> !oops
[18:32] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, each of those bugs are taking a long time to load for me
[18:33] <czajkowski> Anyone else finding LP very slow today
[18:33] <czajkowski> and getting errors when reporting bugs ?
[18:33] <czajkowski> keep getting
[18:33] <czajkowski> Please try again
[18:33] <czajkowski> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[18:33] <czajkowski> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[18:33] <czajkowski> Thanks for your patience.
[18:33] <chrisccoulson> czajkowski, see above^^
[18:33] <czajkowski> as I'm filing bugs
[18:34] <czajkowski> chrisccoulson: ah ok, thanks
[18:34] <czajkowski> :(
[18:34] <chrisccoulson> lifeless, bug 726175 is taking a really long time to load here
[18:34] <chrisccoulson> (as in, it's been a couple of minutes so far and still hasn't loaded)
[18:34] <chrisccoulson> ah, it's timed out now
[18:34] <lifeless> chrisccoulson: what is on the timeout page
[18:35] <chrisccoulson> no OOPS code though
[18:35] <lifeless> chrisccoulson: can you get me a screen shot please
[18:35] <chrisccoulson> it's just the text that czajkowski quoted above
[18:35] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i can take a screenshot
[18:35] <lifeless> ok
[18:35] <lifeless> if its that text
[18:35] <lifeless> that means its haproxy/apache
[18:35] <lifeless> we have too many requests for the number of active appservers
[18:35] <czajkowski> hmm so before it wouldnt open the page for me to give a description of the bug, and now it's not filing the bug.
[18:35] <lifeless> this can be caused by two things:
[18:35] <czajkowski> lifeless: upgrading to natty and issues to be logged :)
[18:36] <lifeless>  - frozen threads reducing the capacity of the server farm
[18:36] <jfi> (I have the same issue, and the same error page)
[18:36] <chrisccoulson> czajkowski, natty has no bugs! :P
[18:36] <lifeless>  - a jump in the number of users - but its sunday, and we normally see about 20% less volume on sundays
[18:36] <czajkowski> chrisccoulson: I've no sound! trust me I want to log the bug!
[18:37] <czajkowski> lifeless: massive push for people to upgraed before UGJ to be ready to help
[18:37] <lifeless> it may be bug 669296
[18:37] <lifeless> compounding the result of this push
[18:37] <lifeless> it may be bug 669296
[18:37] <lifeless> bug 669296
[18:38] <lifeless> here ubot ubot ubot
[18:38] <chrisccoulson> heh
[18:38] <lifeless> wow
[18:38] <czajkowski> clearly the bot is on strike too
[18:38] <lifeless> hmm, I might escalate this
[18:38] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'm getting the same response with every bug now
[18:38] <nigelb> lifeless: prooves the point I gues.
[18:39]  * nigelb gives ubot a cookie
[18:41] <lifeless> right
[18:41] <lifeless> I've asking in our sysadmin channel
[18:41] <lifeless> if that doesn't get a reply I'll call the hotline
[18:41] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[18:41] <lifeless> no problem
[18:41] <czajkowski> thank you
[18:41] <lifeless> having spent 6 months completely focused on improving performance, its a nuisance to have it evaporate in a weekend ;)
[18:42] <czajkowski> lifeless: and there are less folks around, so have it fixed by tomorrow and nobody will know
[18:42]  * slangasek chuckles
[18:42] <czajkowski> oh slangasek just the other person I was looking for I think
[18:42] <lifeless> czajkowski: given what chrisccoulson is saying about a push to upgrade to natty, I doubt that
[18:43] <lifeless> besids which, I'll know
[18:44] <czajkowski> slangasek: will find bug and get back to you re it
[18:44] <slangasek> czajkowski: ok!  presumably off-topic for #launchpad, anyway :)
[18:45] <czajkowski> well it was about launchpad and signing the CoC for teams but looking for the bug is kinda hard when LP is acting up
[18:45] <lifeless> erm
[18:46] <lifeless> coc for teams?!
[18:46] <czajkowski> lifeless: leadership CoC
[18:46] <lifeless> do you mean bug 392976?
[18:49] <czajkowski> lifeless: yes.
[18:50] <slangasek> czajkowski: oh; not sure what you want me for on that bug, I'm not involved with either the community council or launchpad
[18:50] <czajkowski> different person so, sorry.
[18:50] <czajkowski> faces to names and irc nicks
[18:50] <slangasek> ok, no worries
[19:01] <yooooooo> hi
[19:01] <yooooooo> the web is down
[19:06] <lifeless> we're fixing at the moment
[19:06] <lifeless> czajkowski: chrisccoulson: it should be better now
[19:07] <yooooooo> ok thanks
[19:07] <chrisccoulson> lifeless, excellent, thanks
[19:07] <lifeless> chrisccoulson: you've tried ?
[19:08] <chrisccoulson> lifeless, yeah, i can access bugs again now
[19:08] <r2wj> Hey - is there anyway to download all of the strings on launchpad translations?
[19:09] <lifeless> you can get an export of a pot
[19:09] <lifeless> or a po
[19:10] <r2wj> No I mean
[19:10] <r2wj> I want the whole thing
[19:10] <r2wj> not just for a specific project
[19:10] <lifeless> no
[19:10] <r2wj> I want the entire archive
[19:10] <r2wj> And there is no API?
[19:11] <r2wj> I could have sworn I saw something about this on planetubuntu.. somebody's pet project, maybe ~a year ago or less
[19:12] <lifeless> r2wj: its about 9GB of data
[19:12] <r2wj> That's fine
[19:12] <r2wj> How can I have it please?
[19:13] <lifeless> you need to ask for an export of each source package and project in all languages
[19:13] <lifeless> thats going to take a while to generate
[19:14] <lifeless> I'm curious what this will help you do
[19:14] <r2wj> that's a lot of packages and a lot of languages
[19:14] <r2wj> I want to build an API on top of it
[19:14] <r2wj> run my own free webservice
[19:14] <r2wj> for translating strings based on known values
[19:15] <r2wj> because launchpad has the right idea it's just a huge mess
[19:15] <r2wj> and not all platforms use PO, I want to extend it to use XML
[19:15] <lifeless> you could help improve launchpad
[19:15] <r2wj> I could but I'm not very good at dealing with beaurocracy
[19:15] <r2wj> Easier for me to fork
[19:15] <r2wj> and make the product for my own purposes
[19:15] <r2wj> rather than try to sway an existing project to do what I want
[19:16] <r2wj> that's the whole point of free software
[19:16] <r2wj> fork and tailor it to your own needs
[19:16] <r2wj> I just need to the content - and it doesn't seem like launchpad wants to give it to me :(
[19:16] <r2wj> can nobody here just send me a dump of the strings DB?
[19:16] <r2wj> 20$ to the charity of your choice
[19:29] <lifeless> r2wj: well, as I said, there is a means to get the strings out but it will take a while
[19:29] <lifeless> r2wj: because its a huge amount of data
[19:58] <czajkowski> lifeless: thanks
[21:28] <EvilPhoenix> can one of ya help me figure out why an upload is being rejected?
[21:30] <thumper> hi
[21:30] <thumper> wgrant is probably your man
[21:30] <EvilPhoenix> is he around?
[21:30] <thumper> I don't really know much about the process
[21:30] <thumper> he should be soon
[21:31] <thumper> lifeless: do you know much about uploads?
[21:31] <lifeless> thumper: there's probably something on the chr pages about it
[21:31] <micahg> it would be helpful to know what the error is
[21:31] <EvilPhoenix> Rejected:  File bbot_7.0.0-beta5.orig.tar.gz already exists in BBot PPA *EXPERIMENTAL*, but uploaded version has different contents. See more information about this error in help.launchpad.net/Packaging/….
[21:32] <EvilPhoenix> yes, it has different contents, because its -beta5-2
[21:32] <micahg> EvilPhoenix: you can't upload the same tarball twice with different contents
[21:32] <micahg> EvilPhoenix: the .orig.tar.gz shouldn't change unless the upstream version changes, only the .diff.gz or .debian.tar.gz
[21:33] <EvilPhoenix> ah that explains it...
[21:33] <EvilPhoenix> guess i'll rewrite the version name then.
[21:47] <EvilPhoenix> so if say the code for one of the files changes, and noew files havent been added, how do I incorporate the new changes into the .deb, then upload those changes to the ppa?
[21:47] <EvilPhoenix> just debuild everything again?
[21:53] <maxb> You don't upload .debs to PPAs at all
[21:57] <EvilPhoenix> yeah, forgive the fact my terminology is incorrect :P
[22:00] <EvilPhoenix> i think i got it down pat now.  thanks
[22:20] <EvilPhoenix> how do you make a team PPA?
[22:20] <EvilPhoenix> rather than a personal PPA?
[22:26] <micahg> EvilPhoenix: create the PPA under the team
[22:26] <micahg> EvilPhoenix: you have to be a team admin to do so
[22:26] <EvilPhoenix> assuming i am team admin, then the PPA can be pushed to by any member(s) of the team?
[22:26] <EvilPhoenix> or only by the admin?
[22:27] <micahg> EvilPhoenix: any member of the team
[22:28] <EvilPhoenix> thanks
[23:21] <EvilPhoenix> anyone know where I can find a member of the Build Administration Team?
[23:23] <EvilPhoenix> because a build of a package being put  into a PPA failed, and i would like help figuring out why.
[23:24] <Ampelbein> EvilPhoenix: you can look at the buildlog without an admin.
[23:24] <micahg> EvilPhoenix: you mean the build failed to build or there was a problem with the builder?
[23:24] <EvilPhoenix> @micahg: that's what i'm trying to determine
[23:25] <micahg> EvilPhoenix: do you have a link to the build log?
[23:25] <maxb> We should fix the silly message which suggests talking to buildd admins about any build failure
[23:25] <EvilPhoenix> micahg:  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/66298020/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.bbot_7.0.0-beta5pre-3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz  <--- i think
[23:25] <micahg> EvilPhoenix: you can get help in #ubuntu-packaging with that