[00:31] <kristian-aalborg> hi ppl
[02:33] <kristian-aalborg> wohoo, I think it's almost there :)
[02:33] <kristian-aalborg> jj-afk: ping?
[10:40] <kristian-aalborg> hurm, I got a make error due to missing modules
[10:42] <jj-afk> kristian-aalborg: skip_modules=true fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic
[10:42] <kristian-aalborg> I passed it with the skipmodule=true flag, but it seems that something's amiss
[10:43] <kristian-aalborg> it asked me to run mrproper, now debian/rules is gone (which I kind of knew it would be"
[10:44] <jj-afk> right you need to move debian/ and debian.master out before running mrproper
[10:46] <kristian-aalborg> I cp'd them from my backup dir
[10:47] <kristian-aalborg> I'm mostly trying to figure out why the process won't run... I'm not expecting a working kernel atm
[10:48] <kristian-aalborg> I wonder if it's the .config I made which is at fault?
[10:55]  * kristian-aalborg boots up other computer 
[10:58] <kristian-aalborg> jj-afk: I got the git version of the kernel, then followed the instructions you gave me the other day... correct?
[10:58] <jj-afk> yep
[10:58] <jj-afk> it should work with either but I have only ever used the git tree
[10:59] <jj-afk> if you are using the git tree there is a trick you can use with make mrproper
[10:59] <jj-afk> instead of moving the debian and debian/master files, you can do
[10:59] <kristian-aalborg> my .config is made by apt-getting the source, then make localmodconfig and make menuconfig 
[10:59] <jj-afk> make mrproper
[10:59] <jj-afk> git checkout -f
[10:59] <jj-afk> the git checkout -f will restore them
[11:00] <jj-afk> okay
[11:00] <kristian-aalborg> that
[11:00] <kristian-aalborg> is the correct way, right?
[11:00] <jj-afk> be ware that fdr clean and fdr prepare-generic will destroy / overwrite the .config so you need to copy it in after those
[11:01] <jj-afk> yes it will work
[11:01] <jj-afk> you can also use
[11:02] <jj-afk> fakeroot debian/rules updateconfig
[11:02] <jj-afk> err make that editconfig
[11:02] <jj-afk> it will ask you which configs to edit and do a make menuconfig, and update the debian/config files
[11:02] <kristian-aalborg> I have the feeling something's fundamentally wrong
[11:03] <jj-afk> then you won't need to copy in your config
[11:03] <jj-afk> give editconfigs a try
[11:03] <kristian-aalborg> yeah
[11:03] <jj-afk> start clean with,
[11:03] <jj-afk> fakeroot debian/rules clean
[11:03] <jj-afk> git checkout -f
[11:04] <jj-afk> err actually switch the order (git checkout first)
[11:04] <kristian-aalborg> this dir is a mess, I should probably back to start
[11:04] <jj-afk> fakeroot debian/rules editconfig(s) ?
[11:04] <jj-afk> if you haven't committed anything
[11:04] <jj-afk> git checkout -f will undo your changes
[11:05] <kristian-aalborg> really? all of them?
[11:05] <jj-afk> its a good way to get back to a clean state
[11:05] <jj-afk> well usually, there are few files it isn't tracking, but yeah
[11:05] <kristian-aalborg> sweet
[11:06] <kristian-aalborg> I'm getting a bit annoyed with Linus, though ;)
[11:06] <jj-afk> hehe :)
[11:07] <kristian-aalborg> is it common for this stuff to fail this much or should I check if something's wrong with my system somehow?
[11:07] <kristian-aalborg> both computers in question are running 10.4... should "just work", I'd figure
[11:08] <jj-afk> kristian-aalborg: well it depends what your doing,
[11:09] <jj-afk> if you suspect a problem, try a clean kernel build with no changes
[11:09] <jj-afk> that should work
[11:09] <jj-afk> if it doesn't you know there is a something wrong
[11:10] <jj-afk> if your just doing config changes, the recompile can be made to be pretty fast if the build is cleared
[11:10] <jj-afk> well it depends on the config changes
[11:14] <kristian-aalborg> nothing is fast on a 2g surf ;)
[11:15] <kristian-aalborg> by "cleared", you mean doing fakeroot debian/rules clean?
[11:17] <jj-afk> sorry, if it isn't cleared
[11:18] <jj-afk> if you are doing a rebuild, and your changes don't require a full rebuild then you don't want to do an fakeroot debian/rules clean
[11:18] <jj-afk> you want to rm debian/stamps/stamps-build-*
[11:19] <jj-afk> make your changes / copy in your new configs
[11:19] <jj-afk> and then do fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic
[11:20] <jj-afk> this will keep the old build .o files around and Make will uses timestamps to figure out what parts need recompiling
[11:20] <kristian-aalborg> I'm  starting over, it's easier I think :)
[11:56] <kristian-aalborg> jj-afk: I'm back to basics now - where do I start?
[11:57] <jj-afk> kristian-aalborg: just build the kernel with no changes, and see how that goes
[11:57] <kristian-aalborg> good thinking
[11:57] <jj-afk> fakeroot debian/rules clean
[11:57] <jj-afk> fakeroot debian/rule binary-generic
[12:08]  * kristian-aalborg is on it
[13:41] <kristian-aalborg> gah, computer died
[20:05] <kristian-aalborg> hi again
[20:06] <kristian-aalborg> something I was thinking of... why isn't there a server where you can upload your .config and then download the .deb?