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| jenkins | evening all | 18:19 |
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| jenkins | meeting in 2 minutes right? | 19:59 |
| ChrisWoollard | Wow. | 19:59 |
| ChrisWoollard | Hello | 19:59 |
| ChrisWoollard | Long time no see | 19:59 |
| c7p | hello all | 19:59 |
| RawChid | Hi | 19:59 |
| jenkins | Hello, yea sorry real life has me very busy | 20:00 |
| jenkins | how is everyone? | 20:00 |
| ChrisWoollard | Alright I guess | 20:00 |
| * dutchie back too | 20:00 | |
| jenkins | hello dutchie | 20:00 |
| ChrisWoollard | Hello dutchie | 20:00 |
| c7p | hey dutchie | 20:00 |
| ChrisWoollard | Is Godbyk around? | 20:01 |
| jenkins | pass | 20:01 |
| jenkins | anyone here with a launchpad id of rutcast who is interested in quickshot? | 20:03 |
| ChrisWoollard | I haven't | 20:03 |
| jenkins | or anyone esle :D | 20:04 |
| jenkins | etherpad tells you what browser people ar eusing if you hover over their name | 20:04 |
| jenkins | well it did a minute ago | 20:05 |
| c7p | jenkins yes you use Chrome, interesting ... ;) | 20:05 |
| jenkins | correct :) | 20:05 |
| ChrisWoollard | How long should we wait? | 20:07 |
| jenkins | 2 more mins | 20:08 |
| ChrisWoollard | Does anybody know how the meeting bot thing works? | 20:09 |
| c7p | i don't :/ | 20:09 |
| jenkins | type "#startmeeting" iirc | 20:09 |
| jenkins | or with as space | 20:10 |
| ChrisWoollard | Ok then | 20:11 |
| ChrisWoollard | #start meeting | 20:12 |
| ChrisWoollard | #startmeeting | 20:12 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 15:12. The chair is ChrisWoollard. | 20:12 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 20:12 |
| ChrisWoollard | Okay then, i guess that is it | 20:12 |
| ChrisWoollard | http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UbuntuManualMeetingMarch2011-1 | 20:13 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UbuntuManualMeetingMarch2011-1 | 20:13 |
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| ChrisWoollard | #topic Feedback on role advertisments | 20:13 |
| godbyk | Hey, guys. Sorry I'm late. | 20:14 |
| ChrisWoollard | Hello | 20:14 |
| jenkins | its [topic] | 20:14 |
| RawChid | [TOPIC] Feedback on role advertisments | 20:14 |
| c7p | hi Kevin | 20:14 |
| jenkins | :) | 20:14 |
| RawChid | ;) | 20:14 |
| ChrisWoollard | [TOPIC] Feedback on role advertisments | 20:14 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Feedback on role advertisments | 20:14 |
| jenkins | hello godbyk | 20:14 |
| ChrisWoollard | Cool. thanks | 20:14 |
| ChrisWoollard | Godbyk. Have you reviewed the roles? | 20:15 |
| jenkins | did we get any aplicats? | 20:15 |
| godbyk | We did get some applicants, yes. | 20:15 |
| ChrisWoollard | a handfull | 20:15 |
| godbyk | Let me collect the emails and put them up on the web or paste them someplace. | 20:15 |
| godbyk | One moment. | 20:15 |
| c7p | neat :D | 20:15 |
| daker_ | hello all ツ | 20:15 |
| ChrisWoollard | hello | 20:16 |
| c7p | hi | 20:16 |
| ChrisWoollard | For those that didn't see. We have a page on ubuntu-manual.org/jobs now | 20:17 |
| ChrisWoollard | We should really have prepared this in advance. | 20:20 |
| jenkins | shall id do a quickshot update its a bit out of sink? | 20:20 |
| daker_ | good | 20:20 |
| jenkins | as far as the agenda is | 20:20 |
| ChrisWoollard | maybe i should change the topic | 20:21 |
| ChrisWoollard | then | 20:21 |
| ChrisWoollard | [TOPIC] Quickshot update | 20:21 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Quickshot update | 20:21 |
| jenkins | It functions enough to create the screenshots for the next release, I could do with a list as I have yet to install latex | 20:22 |
| jenkins | *list of screenshots | 20:22 |
| godbyk | (Okay, I've pasted the emails and resumes that we've received so far to http://kevin.godby.org/private/ubuntu-manual/jobs/.) | 20:22 |
| ChrisWoollard | godbyk. We will come back to that. | 20:22 |
| jenkins | I am trying to fix a bug with the contributor details but not managed yet as flan did a rewrite | 20:23 |
| godbyk | ChrisWoollard: np. | 20:23 |
| jenkins | I will get my head around it though. | 20:23 |
| jenkins | we could do with some more people. Nothing much eles to say | 20:23 |
| jenkins | where did the website get to? | 20:24 |
| ChrisWoollard | jenkins: Is there any documentation on Quickshot? | 20:24 |
| jenkins | no afraid not | 20:24 |
| daker_ | jenkins, http://test.ubuntu-manual.org | 20:25 |
| jenkins | daker_ how about the quickshot one | 20:25 |
| daker_ | it's almost complete | 20:26 |
| jenkins | nice :) | 20:26 |
| ChrisWoollard | Okay. Maybe then we should collect a list of chapters and get volunteers to get a list of screenshots for that chapter? | 20:26 |
| ChrisWoollard | to spread the load a little | 20:26 |
| jenkins | I will install latex in the mean while | 20:26 |
| ChrisWoollard | Jenkins: What exactly do you need screenshot wise? | 20:27 |
| jenkins | the resolution we want the at, sicking with 1024x768? | 20:27 |
| ChrisWoollard | yes. for now. | 20:28 |
| RawChid | Hey, I just fall into this, but what did you mean by < jenkins> we could do with some more people. | 20:28 |
| jenkins | a description of them and the aplication | 20:28 |
| jenkins | Well I dont have much time so people willing to code python and create docs for quickshot would be great | 20:28 |
| RawChid | Okay | 20:28 |
| RawChid | So you need developers | 20:29 |
| jenkins | yep, my python is basic at best | 20:29 |
| dutchie | i have been known to poke at python from time to time | 20:29 |
| * dutchie downloads source code | 20:29 | |
| jenkins | sounds good. shall we move to another topic? | 20:30 |
| jenkins | ls | 20:30 |
| ChrisWoollard | I'll send out a list of chapters to the mailing list | 20:30 |
| dutchie | looks like we can head back to jobs stuff now godbyk got the things online? | 20:30 |
| ChrisWoollard | with the requirements and ask for voluteers to review what we need | 20:31 |
| ChrisWoollard | [action] ChrisWoollard to send out to the mailing list screenshot requiremnts and ask for volunteers to review | 20:31 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: ChrisWoollard to send out to the mailing list screenshot requiremnts and ask for volunteers to review | 20:31 |
| jenkins | are there any cahnges from 10.04? | 20:32 |
| ChrisWoollard | [topic] Feedback on jobs part 2 | 20:32 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Feedback on jobs part 2 | 20:32 |
| ChrisWoollard | jenkins: yes, installer, plus some app changes | 20:33 |
| godbyk | I've pasted the text of the emails and the attached resumes/CVs here: http://kevin.godby.org/private/ubuntu-manual/jobs/ | 20:33 |
| godbyk | We had two applicants for the project leader role and three applicants for the editor in chief role. | 20:33 |
| dutchie | well i suppose the first thing is whether we leave applications open or not | 20:34 |
| c7p | godbyk: the advertisement has been done through the uk podacast ? | 20:34 |
| dutchie | then how we choose between applicants | 20:34 |
| dutchie | c7p: i believe so, yes | 20:34 |
| ChrisWoollard | plus the planet | 20:34 |
| godbyk | ChrisWoollard handled the advertising. We had an announcement on the UK podcast and also posted to Planet Ubuntu. | 20:35 |
| godbyk | ChrisWoollard: Were there any other adverts? | 20:35 |
| c7p | ok thx | 20:35 |
| ChrisWoollard | the mailing list | 20:35 |
| godbyk | Ah, right. And the Ubuntu Manual mailing list. | 20:35 |
| ChrisWoollard | I also believe I Tweeted it to #Ubuntu | 20:36 |
| godbyk | Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! | 20:37 |
| dutchie | @TheUbuntuManual didn't tweet it though | 20:37 |
| manualbot | dutchie: Error: "TheUbuntuManual" is not a valid command. | 20:37 |
| dutchie | cough | 20:37 |
| dutchie | silly manualbot | 20:37 |
| godbyk | dutchie: Yeah, I can't find the password for that account. I'll have to email Ben about that. | 20:37 |
| ChrisWoollard | no. I think we were looking for the logins for that | 20:37 |
| ChrisWoollard | [ACTION] Godbyk to e-mail Ben to get the logins to our Twitter account :) | 20:38 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: Godbyk to e-mail Ben to get the logins to our Twitter account :) | 20:38 |
| jenkins | I think I may have the login some where | 20:38 |
| c7p | if the jobs are still open to new applicants then maybe we should update the facebook about the advertisements and also send a mail to OMG!Ubuntu guys, probably to Ben | 20:38 |
| ChrisWoollard | Any thoughts on the applicants | 20:39 |
| godbyk | Action completed. :-) | 20:39 |
| ChrisWoollard | :) | 20:39 |
| ChrisWoollard | If we are going to leave it open then the webpage should be modified | 20:39 |
| ChrisWoollard | to remove the date. | 20:39 |
| c7p | yes you are right | 20:40 |
| jenkins | does that not imply we do not like any of the candiates that have appled so far? | 20:40 |
| c7p | no | 20:41 |
| ChrisWoollard | We haven't heard any feedback yet | 20:41 |
| godbyk | jenkins: Not necessarily. It'd be nice to have a larger pool of applicants, though. And we should probably have advertised it more widely. | 20:41 |
| c7p | the fact is that i didn't knew about the adv to promote it, maybe there are many other people out there that are also interested | 20:41 |
| jenkins | sure, just putting a thought out there | 20:41 |
| ChrisWoollard | We should change it so that people know it is community and not paid ;) | 20:42 |
| c7p | i think the more options we have the better for the project | 20:42 |
| ChrisWoollard | agreed | 20:42 |
| godbyk | It sounds like most people think we should extend the deadline. If so, what's the new proposed deadline? | 20:43 |
| ChrisWoollard | another 2 weeks? | 20:43 |
| c7p | two weeks max | 20:43 |
| ChrisWoollard | godbyk: can you adjust the dates on the webpage? | 20:44 |
| godbyk | ChrisWoollard: Sure. | 20:44 |
| godbyk | So the new deadline is Friday, 25 March? | 20:44 |
| ChrisWoollard | [Action] Godbyk to update the Job Advertisment (+2 weeks) | 20:45 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: Godbyk to update the Job Advertisment (+2 weeks) | 20:45 |
| ChrisWoollard | yes | 20:45 |
| godbyk | done | 20:45 |
| ChrisWoollard | Can you also make it so it sounds less like it is paid. | 20:45 |
| godbyk | Yeah, I'll put a note at the top. | 20:46 |
| godbyk | Just a moment. | 20:46 |
| godbyk | (Have to find the proper css class.) | 20:46 |
| ChrisWoollard | Where should we send it? | 20:46 |
| ChrisWoollard | Ben @ omgubuntu | 20:46 |
| ChrisWoollard | maybe the Linux Outlaws podcast? | 20:47 |
| ChrisWoollard | that was weird. got kicked out | 20:47 |
| ChrisWoollard | any other marketing ideas? | 20:48 |
| c7p | at Ben, maybe post it to ubuntuforums and wherever everyone of us can | 20:48 |
| godbyk | ChrisWoollard: How's the note at the top of http://ubuntu-manual.org/jobs sound? | 20:48 |
| ChrisWoollard | That should do it. :D | 20:49 |
| godbyk | I tried to be as clear as possible. :) | 20:49 |
| ChrisWoollard | It is probably so obvious that people won't see it | 20:49 |
| c7p | should we add also editors, writters to the job list ? Natty release is near | 20:49 |
| c7p | ChrisWoollard: haha | 20:50 |
| ChrisWoollard | As we have Jenkins here, maybe he could review the quickshot job description | 20:51 |
| ChrisWoollard | c7p: do you have the link? | 20:51 |
| c7p | hm just a moment | 20:51 |
| godbyk | If we get some Quickshot developers on board, we'll need to be able to send them to jenkins or flan or someone to get them started. | 20:52 |
| godbyk | jenkins: Will you be able to help new developers get up to speed? | 20:52 |
| ChrisWoollard | I'll mail Ben and the Linux Outlaws people about the jobs | 20:52 |
| jenkins | I can't explain the code very much faln did most/ all of it | 20:52 |
| c7p | oh no ! typewithme removed all pads ! | 20:52 |
| jenkins | I can explain the theory and release syetem | 20:53 |
| ChrisWoollard | [action] Chris Woollard to mail Ben and Linux outlaws for marketing | 20:53 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: Chris Woollard to mail Ben and Linux outlaws for marketing | 20:53 |
| ChrisWoollard | maybe they get aged out on that site | 20:53 |
| ChrisWoollard | anything else or next topic | 20:54 |
| c7p | 3/12/2011 - Typewith.me experienced a database crash. We are currently working on restoring old pads to a seperate site, and will post a link if and when that data becomes available! | 20:54 |
| c7p | next topic | 20:54 |
| godbyk | I haven't had a change to do anything with docbook yet. I'll take another stab at that this week. | 20:55 |
| godbyk | s/change/chance/g | 20:55 |
| ChrisWoollard | ok | 20:55 |
| ChrisWoollard | np | 20:55 |
| ChrisWoollard | new contributors? | 20:55 |
| ChrisWoollard | anything for that? | 20:55 |
| ChrisWoollard | [topic] New Contributors | 20:56 |
| MootBot | New Topic: New Contributors | 20:56 |
| ChrisWoollard | ? | 20:56 |
| c7p | that's relevant to the previous topic | 20:56 |
| ChrisWoollard | we probably covered all that | 20:57 |
| ChrisWoollard | next | 20:57 |
| c7p | yes | 20:57 |
| ChrisWoollard | [topic] Docbook | 20:57 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Docbook | 20:57 |
| ChrisWoollard | [action] Godbyk to continue investigating | 20:57 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: Godbyk to continue investigating | 20:57 |
| ChrisWoollard | [topic] 11.04 writing | 20:57 |
| MootBot | New Topic: 11.04 writing | 20:57 |
| ChrisWoollard | Godbyk | 20:58 |
| godbyk | Yes? | 20:58 |
| ChrisWoollard | weren't you going to branch 10.10? | 20:58 |
| godbyk | I can, yeah. | 20:58 |
| godbyk | Are we effectively at a writing freeze there? (i.e., is it a good time to branch, or should I wait?) | 20:58 |
| ChrisWoollard | at least then we can say to people that we can review and update the text | 20:58 |
| godbyk | Or should we wait until we've made a decision re: docbook? | 20:58 |
| ChrisWoollard | I don't know. | 20:59 |
| ChrisWoollard | There was an item to the mailing list about collaborating more with the doc team | 20:59 |
| godbyk | Yeah, it's still sitting in my inbox. I want to write Phil back. | 21:00 |
| godbyk | I'm always up for collaboration. | 21:00 |
| godbyk | Our last conversation just kind of petered out, I think. | 21:00 |
| ChrisWoollard | Does anybody have views on branching now or waiting until maverick is complete? | 21:01 |
| ChrisWoollard | Actually | 21:01 |
| ChrisWoollard | Lets defer until next meeting. | 21:02 |
| godbyk | Okay. | 21:02 |
| ChrisWoollard | If we can get the screenshots going in the next 2 weeks, that might help us | 21:02 |
| godbyk | I'll have a better idea as far as docbook goes by then. | 21:02 |
| c7p | yes | 21:02 |
| ChrisWoollard | [action] Defer 11.04 branch until next meeting. Pending screenshot work and docbook review | 21:03 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: Defer 11.04 branch until next meeting. Pending screenshot work and docbook review | 21:03 |
| ChrisWoollard | [topic] Any Other Business | 21:03 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Any Other Business | 21:03 |
| ChrisWoollard | does anybody have anything? | 21:04 |
| godbyk | Nothing from me. | 21:04 |
| c7p | i have | 21:04 |
| c7p | i said it to the previous meeting also | 21:05 |
| c7p | what is it going with translations ? maverick is available for translation | 21:05 |
| ChrisWoollard | What was that? I forget | 21:05 |
| c7p | have you looked upon removing the option of translating it ? | 21:06 |
| ChrisWoollard | Don't we have to wait for the writing freeze first | 21:06 |
| godbyk | c7p: I haven't done anything with translations. Do you have permissions to modify the settings? If so, I'd say just jump in and fix it. | 21:06 |
| c7p | godbyk i don't have permission | 21:06 |
| godbyk | c7p: Okay. Do you know what the settings *should* be? If so, let me know and I'll try to fix them. | 21:07 |
| c7p | nope :( i don't know | 21:07 |
| ChrisWoollard | You need to be in the Manual Project Admins Team i think | 21:07 |
| ChrisWoollard | Incidentally I am not in that either ;) | 21:07 |
| c7p | haha | 21:08 |
| godbyk | Really?! | 21:08 |
| godbyk | Well, I can fix that! | 21:08 |
| ChrisWoollard | Thanks | 21:08 |
| c7p | godbyk the fixer ! :D | 21:08 |
| ChrisWoollard | thanks | 21:09 |
| ChrisWoollard | Anything else | 21:09 |
| godbyk | Okay, ChrisWoollard and c7p: Welcome to the Ubuntu Manual Admins team. | 21:09 |
| godbyk | (Whatever that entails.) | 21:09 |
| godbyk | Go forth and make things right. | 21:09 |
| godbyk | Don't be evil. | 21:09 |
| godbyk | And don't forget to pay your dues. ;-) | 21:09 |
| c7p | cool :p | 21:09 |
| c7p | lol, ok anything else ? | 21:10 |
| ChrisWoollard | Any Other Any Other Business? | 21:10 |
| godbyk | Nothing from me. | 21:11 |
| ChrisWoollard | [topic] Next Meeting | 21:11 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Next Meeting | 21:11 |
| ChrisWoollard | 2 Weeks? | 21:12 |
| c7p | yes | 21:12 |
| godbyk | Works for me. | 21:12 |
| jenkins | I will do my best to be there | 21:12 |
| ChrisWoollard | Does anybody feel like organising it? | 21:13 |
| ChrisWoollard | i.e. Sorting out the notes / mailing list / doodle etc | 21:13 |
| c7p | i can | 21:13 |
| ChrisWoollard | Lovely. | 21:14 |
| c7p | but one thing | 21:14 |
| ChrisWoollard | yes | 21:14 |
| c7p | please add items to the agenda guys :) we are an open project | 21:14 |
| c7p | that's it | 21:14 |
| ChrisWoollard | [action] All Team Members - Add agenda items if you have a point to make | 21:15 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: All Team Members - Add agenda items if you have a point to make | 21:15 |
| ChrisWoollard | :) | 21:15 |
| c7p | xD nice | 21:15 |
| godbyk | And then be sure to attend that meeting so you can present your agenda items. | 21:15 |
| godbyk | ('cause if I'm running the meeting and you've added an agenda item, I may not know what you were thinking about when you wrote it.) | 21:16 |
| ChrisWoollard | Also, Does anybody want to write up the minutes for the wiki? | 21:16 |
| * jenkins is getting there on bug #691511 | 21:16 | |
| manualbot | Launchpad bug 691511 in quickshot "Crash after pressing screenshot submit button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691511 | 21:16 |
| ChrisWoollard | Okay, fair enough. I will write up the minutes. | 21:17 |
| ChrisWoollard | #endmeeting | 21:17 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 16:17. | 21:17 |
| jenkins | thanks ChrisWoollard | 21:17 |
| c7p | good job ChrisWoollard | 21:17 |
| ChrisWoollard | np | 21:18 |
| c7p | it was nice to see you jenkins after some months :) | 21:18 |
| godbyk | Yeah, thanks for coming, jenkins! | 21:18 |
| godbyk | Did you guys see this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/new-gwibber-user-guide-makes-mastering-social-networking-in-ubuntu-easy/ | 21:18 |
| jenkins | thanks, I will try to hang around a bit more | 21:18 |
| ChrisWoollard | Jenkins: Can you write me a brief overview on quickshot. what it does, why it is so great, and maybe how to use it. | 21:19 |
| c7p | godbyk: interesting | 21:19 |
| jenkins | I will work on it ChrisWoollard, probably starting with how to use it | 21:20 |
| ChrisWoollard | I know you showed me a bit. but it didn't really help me understand it | 21:20 |
| jenkins | np I will endevor to create some instructions | 21:21 |
| ChrisWoollard | I want to try and get more people to understand it. | 21:21 |
| jenkins | makes sensecurrently there are 2 people who know how to me and faln | 21:22 |
| ChrisWoollard | It seems that screenshots are the main hold up at the moment for the maverick manual | 21:22 |
| jenkins | :( sorry my fauk | 21:22 |
| jenkins | *fault | 21:22 |
| ChrisWoollard | Not totally. We as a team have neglected that side of things. So don't really know anything obout quickshot. | 21:23 |
| ChrisWoollard | So, with any luck we can change that. and get us going again :) | 21:25 |
| ChrisWoollard | On a seperate note. How are you? It has been a long time since you have been seen. | 21:25 |
| jenkins | I haev been nipping in and out quite alot, but i am good my placement is going well. Running a scout section is by biggested time consumer | 21:27 |
| jenkins | *by far | 21:28 |
| * jenkins should haev checked that | 21:28 | |
| ChrisWoollard | Scouts... As in.... dib dib dib | 21:28 |
| jenkins | yes | 21:28 |
| ChrisWoollard | cool. | 21:28 |
| jenkins | its good I have been doing it for year | 21:28 |
| jenkins | s | 21:28 |
| jenkins | but came back home for placement as my local one was falling apart | 21:29 |
| jenkins | so been working hard to recover it | 21:29 |
| ChrisWoollard | That is really good. | 21:30 |
| jenkins | you been up to much | 21:30 |
| ChrisWoollard | Not too much. I have been working on the Ubuntu Manual, I bit on the Developer Manual + my own life. | 21:32 |
| ChrisWoollard | I haven't had that much time recently. | 21:32 |
| jenkins | cool, lets hope we can get the manul going again | 21:33 |
| ChrisWoollard | i hope so. | 21:33 |
| c7p | ChrisWoollard, godbyk: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UMP-Editor-Writter | 21:49 |
| c7p | a description for the editors and authors, make any proper modifications, corrections | 21:49 |
| c7p | it's not the one that you 've written -database is down- but it resembles | 21:50 |
| c7p | you can check it, correct it and add it to job list too | 21:55 |
| c7p | i g2g good evening | 21:57 |
| jenkins | night all | 22:19 |
| ChrisWoollard | g'night | 22:19 |
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