[01:53] <Flannel> rww: I agree that having factoid changes (and requests) logged is useful
[03:38] <Jordan_U> autobleh was supposed to quiet FEMALE_ANUS just then, not just op then deop me...
[04:08] <Jordan_U> I should have known FEMALE had already been banned.
[04:09] <rww> The floodbots mention things like that in their control channel ;)
[04:41] <hypatia> sorry bout that folks
[04:41] <hypatia> finally got sasl working ::)
[06:08] <bazhang> the bot does not prompt for +q; is that normal, or am I just absent-minded
[06:08] <bazhang> ie for a comment
[06:15] <tsimpson> it should do
[06:18] <bazhang> okay. probably a glitch in chanserv.py script
[06:19] <rww> nope. the +q showed up fine for me.
[06:20] <bazhang> weird. I got no comment this time
[07:08] <bazhang> interesting q from alabd
[07:08] <rww> oh god, we let alabd back in?
[07:09] <rww> I take back everything I've ever said on the topic of ban list pruning.
 Good day all , i-humble want to remove a driver in kernel and reinstall it  , is removing it's module with rmmod enough ?
[14:27] <LjL> +r time
[14:29] <mneptok> LjL: set by a floodbot already
[14:29] <Tm_T> ...which might be LjL doing it manually?
[14:30] <mneptok> might be
[14:30] <mneptok> those Italians are crafty devils
[14:32] <LjL> mneptok: :P
[14:33] <mneptok> divertente :)
[15:57] <ikonia> looking
[18:46] <pozzi0> ok
[18:46] <pozzi0> heres my story
[18:46] <pozzi0> i rly need help with ubuntu
[18:47] <pozzi0> coz i need it for the university
[18:47] <pozzi0> so i came in #ubuntu-it (because im italian)
[18:47] <pozzi0> i started talking with some user
[18:48] <pozzi0> everything ok
[18:48] <pozzi0> and then
[18:48] <pozzi0> i did a mistake. lol, imho, not a mistake
[18:48] <pozzi0> but in ubunto-it opinion, a big mistake
[18:48] <pozzi0> wich deserved a big punishment
[18:49] <pozzi0> i said a blasfemy (or a profanity dunno whats the english for that)
[18:49] <pozzi0> then ok. nothing happened
[18:49] <pozzi0> then 10 seconds and i was banned
[18:49] <topyli> pozzi0: #ubuntu-irc would be a more proper channel for this. have you talked to the op who banned you?
[18:50] <pozzi0> probably in those 10 seconds @moderator thought that if he had banned me, i would have gone to heaven..
[18:50] <pozzi0> he would
[18:50] <pozzi0> have gone to heaven
[18:51] <pozzi0> oh topyli sorry, i thought this chan was here for this purpose
[18:51] <pozzi0> claiming on ban
[18:51] <pozzi0> but effectively
[18:51] <pozzi0> thinking about it
[18:51] <pozzi0> ok. thanks everyone!
[18:51] <topyli> it is, if you're having problems in the core channels. the international ops live in #ubuntu-irc
[18:51] <pozzi0> and think about it
[22:42] <ikonia> hello arvut
[22:46] <arvut> hello
[22:46] <arvut> I meant to get in touch with topyli actually
[22:47] <ikonia> topyli: ping
[22:47] <arvut> long time no see btw
[22:47] <ikonia> lets give him a minute or two to see if he responds
[22:47] <ikonia> apologies, I don't remember you
[22:47] <arvut> yeah, I've msged him
[22:47] <ikonia> its it just topyli you need, or can someone else help ?
[22:48] <arvut> used to chat in #u-o alot until i asked him to ban me
[22:48] <ikonia> ok, why did you ask for that ?
[22:49] <arvut> it was february, I tend to do thing such as starting arguments with admins/authorities
[22:49] <ikonia> ok, so what's changed ?
[22:49] <arvut> so it was for my own protection really
[22:49] <ikonia> or would you rather just pick this up for topyli
[22:49] <arvut> nah, its fine
[22:50] <ikonia> so I'm assuming you'd like the ban removed now ?
[22:50] <arvut> I do that stuff once per year or so. and yeah, thats why im here =)
[22:50] <ikonia> give me a moment please.
[22:52] <arvut> ty, send topyli my greetings and thank him for that ban.
[22:53] <ikonia> ok, I've just read the notes on it, and I don't think it's appropriate to remove the ban at this time, topyli will see this conversation and if he disagree's he can remove it
[22:53] <arvut> oh
[22:53] <arvut> what did the notes say? you can send them in a pm if you want
[22:54] <topyli> hi arvut
[22:54] <ikonia> sorry, I'm not posting them, it bascially says what you've said
[22:54] <ikonia> ahh topyli welcome, over to you.
[22:54] <arvut> hi )
[22:54] <topyli> i can't remember if i left the ban in or if i removed it routinely at some point
[22:55] <ikonia> topyli: still there
[22:55] <arvut> I haven't checked if im still banned tbh
[22:55] <arvut> I just came here as we agreed I should
[22:55] <topyli> that's not important though. what matters is we don't really get to choose when we respect the guidelines of the communities we want to work with and when we don't care so much
[22:56] <topyli> i didn't agree to anything iirc :)
[22:56] <topyli> you said you won't respect the guidelines so i banned you as requested
[22:57] <arvut> we agreed that I should come here and talk to you when I felt ready for the unban. I have a sort of photographic memory, sorry :P
[22:57] <topyli> yes i remember saying you should come here to talk about it
[22:58] <arvut> and here I am, roughly 1 month later?
[22:58] <topyli> question is, do you understand the rules and respect them?
[22:59] <arvut> februaury is over, ready to respect the guidelines and in no mood to argue with authorities.
[22:59] <topyli> also, why do you bother ops when you want to stay out of channels? just don't enter then
[22:59] <arvut> I most likely do.
[22:59] <topyli> them
[23:00] <topyli> so when is your next disrespectful season scheduled for?
[23:01] <arvut> next february I guess, will you please respect my wishes if I ever ask you for this again?
[23:02] <arvut> a ban is the most effective way to avoid what I wish to avoid
[23:02] <topyli> no. you don't enter channels when you think you can't be civil in there
[23:02] <topyli> ops are not your babysitters
[23:02] <arvut> I know that
[23:02] <topyli> why do you treat them as such then?
[23:04] <arvut> however, if you would refuse to ban me when I ask for it then I might misbehave without intending to do so, and therefor get a permanent ban.
[23:04] <arvut> do you see the logic?
[23:04] <topyli> yes. end result is you'll be banned
[23:05] <topyli> (permanent bans are not very common though)
[23:06] <arvut> I know I cannot stay away from places I shouldnt be at, so asking for a ban seems to me like the most effective way to avoid trouble
[23:07] <topyli> well you're unbanned now. please try to figure out how to stay unbanned, like everybody else
[23:07] <topyli> you can now join -ot
[23:07] <arvut> ty :)
[23:08] <arvut> is that + a sign of that ur voiced btw?
[23:08] <topyli> yes
[23:08] <topyli> those who are voiced are allowed to idle here. others are not
[23:08] <arvut> oh
[23:08] <topyli> *wink* :)
[23:09] <arvut> idle=stay?
[23:09] <topyli> yes
[23:09] <arvut> how would I get a + then?
[23:09] <arvut> :)
[23:10] <topyli> they're all ops, staff and such ministers, which is why they have to idle here, waiting for users to bring their worries to them
[23:11] <topyli> when things are sorted out, you should go and let other business be taken care of too
[23:11] <topyli> read the topic
[23:11] <arvut> ahh, so unless I'm an op I cannot become voiced?
[23:11] <topyli> right
[23:12] <arvut> what does the voice do then? if all you do is idle?
[23:12] <arvut> a private op chat?
[23:12] <topyli> it just lets us know who shouldn't be forcibly removed for idling
[23:13] <topyli> you should try and join #ubuntu-offtopic now to make sure you're not banned
[23:13] <arvut> ok, brb
[23:14] <arvut> topyli: im in, ty :)
[23:14] <topyli> so it seems. you can now part from here :)
[23:14] <arvut> can I stay here and chat btw? unless thats considered idling
[23:15] <topyli> no, this is a boring business-only channel and we like it that way :)
[23:16] <arvut> I could bring some fun into it ;)
[23:16] <topyli> no fun for us! :
[23:16] <arvut> what are the guidelines for this channel and/or where can I find them?
[23:17] <arvut> oh yes, every op/admin needs fun
[23:17] <topyli> the guidelines are the same as any other ubuntu channel
[23:17] <arvut> oh
[23:17] <topyli> please /part now
[23:17] <arvut> alright, see you around then
[23:17] <arvut> bye ikonia