[00:01] New bug: #734083 in mailman (main) "package mailman 1:2.1.13-1ubuntu0.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734083 [01:28] Nothing in /etc/rc2.d/S2* is starting at boot, everything starts ok when I do it manually. Any ideas (10.04)? [01:41] New bug: #734113 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734113 [04:46] New bug: #734155 in openssh (main) "sshd has 2 startscripts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734155 [05:29] is anyone successfully running multiple instances of redmine? dpkg-reconfigure redmine went fine, but now I'm stuck on what to do next. [05:54] hi .. [05:54] i want to restart my apache suddenly this appear : TERM environment not set [05:54] just wondering y this could occurs? === MikeGuo is now known as hylinux1 === zhobbs__ is now known as zhobbs [07:57] What ' s the difference between added INIT=/sbin/init at kernel boot command line or not? [07:58] New bug: #734190 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734190 === cerber0s is now known as cerberos [08:41] Cherish: not a whole lot. /sbin/init is one of the defaults the kernel will try if you don't choose an init= at all. The option's mostly there for the rare times you don't want the defaults [08:44] shauno: If I don't added init=/sbin/init , I can't boot my system smooth [08:46] what warnings do you get if you boot without it? (I believe that should only happen with a broken initrd) [08:49] shauno: You can see this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/582963 I find a way to fix it that is addedINIT=/sbin/init at kernel boot command line. [08:49] Launchpad bug 582963 in server-papercuts "SSL pass phrase dialog can't read input" [Medium,Confirmed] [08:50] I don't know why, the default parameter for init is what? [11:06] Anyone know how to disable plymouth? [11:12] New bug: #734258 in tomcat6 (main) "package tomcat6 6.0.24-2ubuntu1.6 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess installiertes post-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734258 === fisted_ is now known as fisted [11:33] plymouth main process killed by ABRT signal [11:53] how do I tell what version an installed piece of software is at? [11:55] There are loads of ways to find that. One of them is 'apt-cache policy '. [11:59] thanks [12:13] Anybody know the difference between added INIT=/sbin/init at kernel boot command line or not ? [12:15] If I don't add it the system will go to fsck from util-linux-ng after "Begin: Runing /scripts/init-bottom",If I added it, it will go to boot plymouth. [12:19] do you ever let it run fsck? [12:19] no [12:19] blackberiy pin numaram kizlar ekleyin Pin 235E223D [12:20] blackberiy pin numaram kizlar ekleyin Pin 235E223D [12:20] blackberiy pin numaram kizlar ekleyin Pin 235E223D [12:20] > If I don't add it the system will go to fsck from util-linux-ng after "Begin: Runing /scripts/init-bottom",If I added it, it will go to boot plymouth. [12:20] I want to say the difference. [12:21] o.o [12:21] 诶,难受啊。 [12:21] ei... [12:22] So sad... === maedox_ is now known as maedox [13:18] Cherish: its running fsck for a reason. You should let fsck run. === WinstonSmith_ is now known as WinstonSmith [15:46] i was reading a blog post about 10.10; is it true that glusterfs does not do replication? [16:00] meltingwax: glusterfs can be used for realtime replication, last I checked [16:07] RoyK: thanks [16:08] meltingwax: a guy I know uses it with 40Gbps infiniband for replicating some 40TB ZFS systems across different physical locations [16:19] * patdk-lap wonders how *far* 40gbps infiniband can go [16:19] thought it was limited to like 30' or so === Jonny51 is now known as Jonny5 [16:51] patdk-lap: a few kilometers over fiber [16:52] 30+ iirc [17:01] how do i update the motd (i see nothing upon ssh login, except last login from, and prompt) [17:02] that depends on which version you're running [17:02] pre-9.04(?) you just edit /etc/motd.tail [17:02] newer ones have a more complex updater [17:02] 10.04 [17:03] there are a series of scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/ [17:03] and there's a daemon that runs [17:03] yes i saw them [17:03] do i run the mall [17:03] or is it a cron script, don't remember [17:03] how do i run them [17:04] /usr/sbin/update-motd [17:06] doesnt look like that exists [17:10] so i just do ./etc/update-motd.d/00-header [17:11] etc? [17:11] oh, my mistake [17:11] no such file exists [17:11] it's part of pam [17:12] so you just add/edit scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/ [17:12] in that format, they are run in order [17:12] how do i run it myself manually? [17:14] I don't know how/if you can [17:14] it's run as part of pam [17:14] have you changed any pam settings recently? [17:16] module pam_motd.so in libpam-modules [17:16] i restarted and logged in and saw no motd. s o i went into sshd_config and added updatemod yes, but it didnt do anything. [17:16] 9AND RESTARTED SSHD) USING SUDO /ETC/INIT/.D/SSH RESTART) [17:16] whoops sorry caps [17:17] what's the output of ls -l /etc/motd [17:17] more specifically, is the link broken or not [17:18] and does cat /etc/motd show it [17:18] cat: /etc/motd: No such file or directory [17:18] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Feb 1 16:40 /etc/motd -> /var/run/motd [17:18] its showing red [17:20] ok [17:20] well that's not an issue with ssh [17:21] my desktop here is doing the same thing for some reason [17:24] hm well eventually it will run i hope? [17:25] I'm not really getting anywhere with it [17:26] not sure why it's broken [17:28] I recently upgraded mine from karmic [17:28] did you also recently upgrade, or is it a fresh install? [17:28] im on a fresh install on ec2 [17:28] well, an image [17:29] ok [17:30] hello [17:30] I have a user1 and user2. User2 belongs to user1 group, altought user1 files is 775 user2 can't create nothing. [17:31] BrixSat, the directory in which you are attempting to create the files must also be 775 [17:31] it is [17:31] and owned user1:user1 [17:31] yes correct [17:32] drwxrwxr-x 11 virtualn virtualn 4096 2011-03-02 17:24 public_html [17:32] the result of ls -l [17:32] cesar@cesar-Aspire-9410:/home/virtualn/public_html$ mkdir ola [17:32] mkdir: cannot create directory `ola': Permission denied [17:32] and for changes to take effect, user2 must log out and log back in, after being added to the group [17:32] hoioo I missed that :p [17:32] sorry [17:32] brb === [switch] is now known as switch [19:36] hallyn: Hi, just tested kvm-spice again, crashed with "kvm-spice: /build/buildd/qemu-kvm-spice-0.14.0+noroms/qemu-kvm.c:1724: kvm_mutex_unlock: Assertion `!cpu_single_env' failed. shutting down" [19:40] hey guys i have a vps and for some reason tab completion was disabled [19:40] how can i reenable tab completion [20:00] kim0: what's kvm-spice? can you do things like they do at onlive with it? [20:01] eagles0513875: apt-get install bash-completion [20:02] thanks kim0 [20:02] binBASH: nah, spice is an advanced vnc replacement, but I don't think it's good enough for 3d gaming yet [20:02] ok ;) [20:02] I thought spice is specially designed for fast interaction with client [20:08] binBASH: well it is, but gaming is a different story === Jonny51 is now known as Jonny5 === Amgine_ is now known as Amgine [22:27] what should i use to have a dir on windows and ubuntu syncing bi-directionally? (windows pc is firewalled, but i have done ssh -R to ubuntu from it) [22:28] dropbox ? :) [22:29] i looked at that, but cli version of dropbox i dont see in documentation about anything about selective sync (i have a lot of stuff on dropbox i dont want upped to ubuntu) [22:31] any more ideas? [22:35] hi, would like to setup ldap/samba/nfs with ubuntu server [22:35] this is supposedly for a company with 2 sites connected via vpn (sonicwall) [22:36] any tips or sites that I can go to? to learn ldap and nfs setup [22:36] it would be my first time and the company am working for only have 1u servers which i think needs more space for HDDs [22:36] i'll be using samba for pdc and fileserver also [22:38] sean``: there are lots of guides on the net, you need to think about things such as performance of the VPN as a key issue for auth and file transfers [22:39] yeah am also considering latency and network vpn performance.....can ldap be used to say recognize that certain users authenticate with a specific server? [22:40] then i can setup 1 authenticating servers for each site? [22:40] sean``: sure, you can even do multi-master with certain ldap versions [22:41] am thinking of openldap [22:41] local slaves and a central master is not uncommon [22:41] the redhat directory/fedora 369 ldap server is multi-master capable [22:43] and i can integrate this with samba? [22:43] sure, samba does good ldap interfration for auth and roles [22:44] the Windows AD model in LDAP works well with Samba [22:44] nice [22:44] any recommendation on reads before I try setting up and managing ldap? [22:44] am looking at some notes since last week and configs is like very very technical...maybe i need to equip myself before i can fully understand ldap? [22:45] just use main stream site guides, no dodgy www.masterubunu.com/howtos/2004/ldap/using-ubuntu-as-a-domaincontroller.html [22:45] sean``: sites such as redhat.com/fedora.com for general ldap info, sites such as help.ubuntu.com, wiki.ubuntu.com for actual ubuntu implementations [22:45] you mean go to main openldap.org and samba.org sites etc [22:45] ahh thanks :) [22:45] yup [22:46] there are tons of fools putting up websites with duff information, eg www.ubuntugeek.com/guides/how-i-setup-ldap.html [22:46] New bug: #734539 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734539 [22:46] yeah been trying those out and each makes their own configs. [22:47] that's y am testing it out using virtualbox [22:47] the main site guides are good [22:47] its going to be my first time to manage a network for a large company and am a bit nervous going the wrong route [22:49] the company gave me 2 servers to work with an hp 1u server [22:49] the physical size of a server doesn't matter [22:49] i installed 2x1tb and raid [22:50] sata drivers? [22:50] so am now working with 1 tb for ldap samba and fileserver [22:50] yup sata drives [22:50] why not sas if it's a server? [22:50] too expensive [22:50] hw is cheaper than loosing data :) [22:50] its not planned to be something that has to be up 24/7 [22:51] so, you're running some hp hw-raid-1 then? [22:52] the company is very new with IT and SAS 1tb is about 500usd and they asked for sata which is just 64usd hehe [22:52] yup running raid 1 hw [22:52] am sure 1tb wont be enough [22:52] and i have only 2 slots left on the server [22:52] am seeing that i would need a separate server to store all the data [22:52] our of our san, 25sas drives and 24sata, we have lost 16 sas in the last year, and 2 sata [22:53] that's a lot of dead sas drives. [22:53] what would i need in the 2nd server to make it a scalable file server? [22:54] air, not nearly as much as loosing whole shelfs before [22:54] sata is just slower than sas right? [22:54] what would i need in the 2nd server to make it a scalable file server? [22:54] in many ways :) [22:54] well, sata is normally for the consumer market as well. [22:54] but reliablility is the same basically [22:55] sas is twice as fast as sata for the same level, and sas is bidirectional [22:55] but if you throw sata 1.5 out, then they are the same speeds [22:56] sas also run with dual interfaces, for failover [22:56] sata only has one interface [22:56] sean``: you need to go away and do capacity planning [22:56] we're actually doing that now by establishing a baseline [22:57] am asking all departments to put a copy of their files in a main pc so i can determine how much files each dept need [22:57] but I don't want to setup a server with the OS and stuff and find out later that I have to do it all over again because i made a wrong decision somewhere [22:58] expecially with that much data in place already [22:58] that isn't a big deal [22:58] you can copy 1tb of data around pretty quickly [22:59] unless it's maildir [22:59] sean``: the OS should be very small foot print, so just allocated small sizing to the OS, then waste the rest on data [22:59] so a 4u rack with a decent processor and NFS mapped with samba? [23:00] as I've said, the physical size of the server is nothing [23:00] you need to stop referencing the physical size [23:00] larger servers only mean more dirves can fit inside the case [23:00] personally I like going with 2u servers and external drive shelfs [23:00] * air^ goes with blades these days. [23:00] not even that extent, I have a 1 U DL 380 that can fit 6 drives in it (actually it's 2u) [23:01] but then I actually just send a mail to our hw provider and they do their hw stuff :D [23:01] air, ya, if the customer plan on going with >4 servers, but no storage with those, still all external :) [23:01] ahh [23:01] but first time hearing about external shelves [23:01] you can get 8 2.5" in a 1u :) [23:01] sean``: you need to sit down and do capcity planning, then worry about purhasing and laying out the servers [23:01] how can I expand my current drive onto a larger drive with DD? I would like to move from a 160Gb to a 500Gb in my laptop and keep the partition %s the same on the new drive [23:02] New bug: #734542 in samba (main) "samba-common-bin failed to upgrade: post-install script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734542 [23:02] yep. our hw provider simply give us what we need from some of their san's. [23:02] sean``: before you have the data for your base line and growth and usage rate, it's a pointless exercise [23:03] what do u mean? [23:03] sorry, really new at this [23:03] (I actually have no idea what they put in their SAN's, but I would suppose it's all SAS) [23:04] sean``: you need to work out your starting data sizings, your expeted growth over months/years, and then usage, how many people accessing, how much data moving around etc etc. [23:04] sean``: then you buy hardware that can meet those needs now and the medium term with long term upgrade plans [23:06] would remember that ikonia [23:06] how does external shelves work? [23:07] they just connect via network? [23:08] how can I expand my current drive onto a larger drive with DD? I would like to move from a 160Gb to a 500Gb in my laptop and keep the partition %s the same on the new drive [23:09] jeeves_moss: you don't use dd for that [23:09] just clone the drive, then resize the partitions using parted (or similar)? [23:10] ikonia, any sudgestions? I'm getting a little "penned in" with this small drive [23:10] jeeves_moss: are you using ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop [23:10] ikonia, desktop [23:10] jeeves_moss: ok, so #ubuntu is the right place to discuss this [23:10] please don't ask for desktop support in here [23:11] ikonia, thanks. [23:17] can anyone tell me why i got website like this, instead of original one? [23:17] http://nertilbox.homeip.net:9090/forum/ [23:17] what can be the problem === donvitoo is now known as nertil [23:44] bye for now [23:44] thanks for the help :)