[01:28] <cerberos> Nothing in /etc/rc2.d/S2* is starting at boot, everything starts ok when I do it manually. Any ideas (10.04)?
[05:29] <tohuw> is anyone successfully running multiple instances of redmine? dpkg-reconfigure redmine went fine, but now I'm stuck on what to do next.
[05:54] <ejat> hi ..
[05:54] <ejat> i want to restart my apache suddenly this appear : TERM environment not set
[05:54] <ejat> just wondering y this could occurs?
[07:57] <Cherish> What ' s the difference between added INIT=/sbin/init at kernel boot command line or not?
[08:41] <shauno> Cherish: not a whole lot.  /sbin/init is one of the defaults the kernel will try if you don't choose an init= at all.  The option's mostly there for the rare times you don't want the defaults
[08:44] <Cherish> shauno: If I don't added init=/sbin/init , I can't boot my system smooth
[08:46] <shauno> what warnings do you get if you boot without it?  (I believe that should only happen with a broken initrd)
[08:49] <Cherish> shauno: You can see this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/582963 I find a way to fix it that is addedINIT=/sbin/init at kernel boot command line.
[08:50] <Cherish> I don't know why, the default parameter for init is what？
[11:06] <Cherish> Anyone know how to disable plymouth?
[11:33] <Cherish> plymouth main process killed by ABRT signal
[11:53] <caution> how do I tell what version an installed piece of software is at?
[11:55] <iulian> There are loads of ways to find that.  One of them is 'apt-cache policy <pkg>'.
[11:59] <caution> thanks
[12:13] <Cherish> Anybody know the difference between added INIT=/sbin/init at kernel boot command line or not ?
[12:15] <Cherish> If I don't add it the system will go to fsck from util-linux-ng after "Begin: Runing /scripts/init-bottom",If I added it, it will go to boot plymouth.
[12:19] <compdoc> do you ever let it run fsck?
[12:19] <Cherish> no
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[12:20] <Cherish> >	If I don't add it the system will go to fsck from util-linux-ng after "Begin: Runing /scripts/init-bottom",If I added it, it will go to boot plymouth.
[12:20] <Cherish> I want to say the difference.
[12:21] <cloakable> o.o
[12:21] <Cherish> 诶，难受啊。
[12:21] <Cherish> ei...
[12:22] <Cherish> So sad...
[13:18] <SpamapS> Cherish: its running fsck for a reason. You should let fsck run.
[15:46] <meltingwax> i was reading a blog post about 10.10; is it true that glusterfs does not do replication?
[16:00] <RoyK> meltingwax: glusterfs can be used for realtime replication, last I checked
[16:07] <meltingwax> RoyK: thanks
[16:08] <RoyK> meltingwax: a guy I know uses it with  40Gbps infiniband for replicating some 40TB ZFS systems across different physical locations
[16:19]  * patdk-lap wonders how *far* 40gbps infiniband can go
[16:19] <patdk-lap> thought it was limited to like 30' or so
[16:51] <RoyK> patdk-lap: a few kilometers over fiber
[16:52] <RoyK> 30+ iirc
[17:01] <azizLIGHTS> how do i update the motd (i see nothing upon ssh login, except last login from, and prompt)
[17:02] <qman__> that depends on which version you're running
[17:02] <qman__> pre-9.04(?) you just edit /etc/motd.tail
[17:02] <qman__> newer ones have a more complex updater
[17:02] <azizLIGHTS> 10.04
[17:03] <qman__> there are a series of scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[17:03] <qman__> and there's a daemon that runs
[17:03] <azizLIGHTS> yes i saw them
[17:03] <azizLIGHTS> do i run the mall
[17:03] <qman__> or is it a cron script, don't remember
[17:03] <azizLIGHTS> how do i run them
[17:04] <qman__>  /usr/sbin/update-motd
[17:06] <azizLIGHTS> doesnt look like that exists
[17:10] <azizLIGHTS> so i just do ./etc/update-motd.d/00-header
[17:11] <azizLIGHTS> etc?
[17:11] <qman__> oh, my mistake
[17:11] <qman__> no such file exists
[17:11] <qman__> it's part of pam
[17:12] <qman__> so you just add/edit scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[17:12] <qman__> in that format, they are run in order
[17:12] <azizLIGHTS> how do i run it myself manually?
[17:14] <qman__> I don't know how/if you can
[17:14] <qman__> it's run as part of pam
[17:14] <qman__> have you changed any pam settings recently?
[17:16] <qman__> module pam_motd.so in libpam-modules
[17:16] <azizLIGHTS> i restarted and logged in and saw no motd. s o i went into sshd_config and added updatemod yes, but it didnt do anything.
[17:16] <azizLIGHTS> 9AND RESTARTED SSHD) USING SUDO /ETC/INIT/.D/SSH RESTART)
[17:16] <azizLIGHTS> whoops sorry caps
[17:17] <qman__> what's the output of ls -l /etc/motd
[17:17] <qman__> more specifically, is the link broken or not
[17:18] <qman__> and does cat /etc/motd show it
[17:18] <azizLIGHTS> cat: /etc/motd: No such file or directory
[17:18] <azizLIGHTS> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Feb  1 16:40 /etc/motd -> /var/run/motd
[17:18] <azizLIGHTS> its showing red
[17:20] <qman__> ok
[17:20] <qman__> well that's not an issue with ssh
[17:21] <qman__> my desktop here is doing the same thing for some reason
[17:24] <azizLIGHTS> hm well eventually it will run i hope?
[17:25] <qman__> I'm not really getting anywhere with it
[17:26] <qman__> not sure why it's broken
[17:28] <qman__> I recently upgraded mine from karmic
[17:28] <qman__> did you also recently upgrade, or is it a fresh install?
[17:28] <azizLIGHTS> im on a fresh install on ec2
[17:28] <azizLIGHTS> well, an image
[17:29] <qman__> ok
[17:30] <BrixSat> hello
[17:30] <BrixSat>  I have a user1 and user2. User2 belongs to user1 group, altought user1 files is 775 user2 can't create nothing.
[17:31] <qman__> BrixSat, the directory in which you are attempting to create the files must also be 775
[17:31] <BrixSat> it is
[17:31] <qman__> and owned user1:user1
[17:31] <BrixSat> yes correct
[17:32] <BrixSat> drwxrwxr-x 11 virtualn virtualn 4096 2011-03-02 17:24 public_html
[17:32] <BrixSat> the result of ls -l
[17:32] <BrixSat> cesar@cesar-Aspire-9410:/home/virtualn/public_html$ mkdir ola
[17:32] <BrixSat> mkdir: cannot create directory `ola': Permission denied
[17:32] <qman__> and for changes to take effect, user2 must log out and log back in, after being added to the group
[17:32] <BrixSat> hoioo I missed that :p
[17:32] <BrixSat> sorry
[17:32] <BrixSat> brb
[19:36] <kim0> hallyn: Hi, just tested kvm-spice again, crashed with "kvm-spice: /build/buildd/qemu-kvm-spice-0.14.0+noroms/qemu-kvm.c:1724: kvm_mutex_unlock: Assertion `!cpu_single_env' failed.  shutting down"
[19:40] <eagles0513875> hey guys i have a vps and for some reason tab completion was disabled
[19:40] <eagles0513875> how can i reenable tab completion
[20:00] <binBASH> kim0: what's kvm-spice? can you do things like they do at onlive with it?
[20:01] <kim0> eagles0513875: apt-get install bash-completion
[20:02] <eagles0513875> thanks kim0
[20:02] <kim0> binBASH: nah, spice is an advanced vnc replacement, but I don't think it's good enough for 3d gaming yet
[20:02] <binBASH> ok ;)
[20:02] <binBASH> I thought spice is specially designed for fast interaction with client
[20:08] <kim0> binBASH: well it is, but gaming is a different story
[22:27] <azizLIGHTS> what should i use to have a dir on windows and ubuntu  syncing bi-directionally? (windows pc is firewalled, but i have done ssh -R to ubuntu from it)
[22:28] <kim0> dropbox ? :)
[22:29] <azizLIGHTS> i looked at that, but cli version of dropbox i dont see in documentation about anything about selective sync  (i have a lot of stuff on dropbox i dont want upped to ubuntu)
[22:31] <azizLIGHTS> any more ideas?
[22:35] <sean``> hi, would like to setup ldap/samba/nfs with ubuntu server
[22:35] <sean``> this is supposedly for a company with 2 sites connected via vpn (sonicwall)
[22:36] <sean``> any tips or sites that I can go to? to learn ldap and nfs setup
[22:36] <sean``> it would be my first time and the company am working for only have 1u servers which i think needs more space for HDDs
[22:36] <sean``> i'll be using samba for pdc and fileserver also
[22:38] <ikonia> sean``: there are lots of guides on the net, you need to think about things such as performance of the VPN as a key issue for auth and file transfers
[22:39] <sean``> yeah am also considering latency and network vpn performance.....can ldap be used to say recognize that certain users authenticate with a specific server?
[22:40] <sean``> then i can setup 1 authenticating servers for each site?
[22:40] <ikonia> sean``: sure, you can even do multi-master with certain ldap versions
[22:41] <sean``> am thinking of openldap
[22:41] <ikonia> local slaves and a central master is not uncommon
[22:41] <ikonia> the redhat directory/fedora 369 ldap server is multi-master capable
[22:43] <sean``> and i can integrate this with samba?
[22:43] <ikonia> sure, samba does good ldap interfration for auth and roles
[22:44] <ikonia> the Windows AD model in LDAP works well with Samba
[22:44] <sean``> nice
[22:44] <sean``> any recommendation on reads before I try setting up and managing ldap?
[22:44] <sean``> am looking at some notes since last week and configs is like very very technical...maybe i need to equip myself before i can fully understand ldap?
[22:45] <ikonia> just use main stream site guides, no dodgy www.masterubunu.com/howtos/2004/ldap/using-ubuntu-as-a-domaincontroller.html
[22:45] <ikonia> sean``: sites such as redhat.com/fedora.com for general ldap info, sites such as help.ubuntu.com, wiki.ubuntu.com for actual ubuntu implementations
[22:45] <sean``> you mean go to main openldap.org and samba.org sites etc
[22:45] <sean``> ahh thanks :)
[22:45] <ikonia> yup
[22:46] <ikonia> there are tons of fools putting up websites with duff information, eg www.ubuntugeek.com/guides/how-i-setup-ldap.html
[22:46] <sean``> yeah been trying those out and each makes their own configs.
[22:47] <sean``> that's y am testing it out using virtualbox
[22:47] <ikonia> the main site guides are good
[22:47] <sean``> its going to be my first time to manage a network for a large company and am a bit nervous going the wrong route
[22:49] <sean``> the company gave me 2 servers to work with an hp 1u server
[22:49] <ikonia> the physical size of a server doesn't matter
[22:49] <sean``> i installed 2x1tb and raid
[22:50] <air^> sata drivers?
[22:50] <sean``> so am now working with 1 tb for ldap samba and fileserver
[22:50] <sean``> yup sata drives
[22:50] <air^> why not sas if it's a server?
[22:50] <sean``> too expensive
[22:50] <air^> hw is cheaper than loosing data :)
[22:50] <sean``> its not planned to be something that has to be up 24/7
[22:51] <air^> so, you're running some hp hw-raid-1 then?
[22:52] <sean``> the company is very new with IT and SAS 1tb is about 500usd and they asked for sata which is just 64usd hehe
[22:52] <sean``> yup running raid 1 hw
[22:52] <sean``> am sure 1tb wont be enough
[22:52] <sean``> and i have only 2 slots left on the server
[22:52] <sean``> am seeing that i would need a separate server to store all the data
[22:52] <Patrickdk> our of our san, 25sas drives and 24sata, we have lost 16 sas in the last year, and 2 sata
[22:53] <air^> that's a lot of dead sas drives.
[22:53] <sean``> what would i need in the 2nd server to make it a scalable file server?
[22:54] <Patrickdk> air, not nearly as much as loosing whole shelfs before
[22:54] <sean``> sata is just slower than sas right?
[22:54] <sean``> what would i need in the 2nd server to make it a scalable file server?
[22:54] <Patrickdk> in many ways :)
[22:54] <air^> well, sata is normally for the consumer market as well.
[22:54] <Patrickdk> but reliablility is the same basically
[22:55] <Patrickdk> sas is twice as fast as sata for the same level, and sas is bidirectional
[22:55] <Patrickdk> but if you throw sata 1.5 out, then they are the same speeds
[22:56] <Patrickdk> sas also run with dual interfaces, for failover
[22:56] <Patrickdk> sata only has one interface
[22:56] <ikonia> sean``: you need to go away and do capacity planning
[22:56] <sean``> we're actually doing that now by establishing a baseline
[22:57] <sean``> am asking all departments to put a copy of their files in a main pc so i can determine how much files each dept need
[22:57] <sean``> but I don't want to setup a server with the OS and stuff and find out later that I have to do it all over again because i made a wrong decision somewhere
[22:58] <sean``> expecially with that much data in place already
[22:58] <Patrickdk> that isn't a big deal
[22:58] <Patrickdk> you can copy 1tb of data around pretty quickly
[22:59] <Patrickdk> unless it's maildir
[22:59] <ikonia> sean``: the OS should be very small foot print, so just allocated small sizing to the OS, then waste the rest on data
[22:59] <sean``> so a 4u rack with a decent processor and NFS mapped with samba?
[23:00] <ikonia> as I've said, the physical size of the server is nothing
[23:00] <ikonia> you need to stop referencing the physical size
[23:00] <Patrickdk> larger servers only mean more dirves can fit inside the case
[23:00] <Patrickdk> personally I like going with 2u servers and external drive shelfs
[23:00]  * air^ goes with blades these days.
[23:00] <ikonia> not even that extent, I have a 1 U DL 380 that can fit 6 drives in it (actually it's 2u)
[23:01] <air^> but then I actually just send a mail to our hw provider and they do their hw stuff :D
[23:01] <Patrickdk> air, ya, if the customer plan on going with >4 servers, but no storage with those, still all external :)
[23:01] <sean``> ahh
[23:01] <sean``> but first time hearing about external shelves
[23:01] <Patrickdk> you can get 8 2.5" in a 1u :)
[23:01] <ikonia> sean``: you need to sit down and do capcity planning, then worry about purhasing and laying out the servers
[23:01] <jeeves_moss> how can I expand my current drive onto a larger drive with DD?  I would like to move from a 160Gb to a 500Gb in my laptop and keep the partition %s the same on the new drive
[23:02] <air^> yep. our hw provider simply give us what we need from some of their san's.
[23:02] <ikonia> sean``: before you have the data for your base line and growth and usage rate, it's a pointless exercise
[23:03] <sean``> what do u mean?
[23:03] <sean``> sorry, really new at this
[23:03] <air^> (I actually have no idea what they put in their SAN's, but I would suppose it's all SAS)
[23:04] <ikonia> sean``: you need to work out your starting data sizings, your expeted growth over months/years, and then usage, how many people accessing, how much data moving around etc etc.
[23:04] <ikonia> sean``: then you buy hardware that can meet those needs now and the medium term with long term upgrade plans
[23:06] <sean``> would remember that ikonia
[23:06] <sean``> how does external shelves work?
[23:07] <sean``> they just connect via network?
[23:08] <jeeves_moss> how can I expand my current drive onto a larger drive with DD?  I would like to move from a 160Gb to a 500Gb in my laptop and keep the partition %s the same on the new drive
[23:09] <ikonia> jeeves_moss: you don't use dd for that
[23:09] <air^> just clone the drive, then resize the partitions using parted (or similar)?
[23:10] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, any sudgestions?  I'm getting a little "penned in" with this small drive
[23:10] <ikonia> jeeves_moss: are you using ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop
[23:10] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, desktop
[23:10] <ikonia> jeeves_moss: ok, so #ubuntu is the right place to discuss this
[23:10] <ikonia> please don't ask for desktop support in here
[23:11] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, thanks.
[23:17] <donvitoo> can anyone tell me why i got website like this, instead of original one?
[23:17] <donvitoo> http://nertilbox.homeip.net:9090/forum/
[23:17] <donvitoo> what can be the problem
[23:44] <sean``> bye for now
[23:44] <sean``> thanks for the help :)