hamitronvirtual machines aren't going to work for mee00:24
Laneyseriously just spent an hour mining and then fell in the lava00:35
HazRPGI may have to go to ultrachip in august!01:51
Azelphurshauno: you about? :P02:24
HazRPGnight all02:32
HazRPGsee ya in the AM's some time :)02:32
popeymorning all08:25
jpdspopey: Morning.08:25
czajkowskiis there a class somewhere I can sign up to learn how to sleep, please :(08:35
nperry_A pint of wine before bed normally goes well for me.08:50
=== nperry_ is now known as nperry
MooDoohello all08:51
danfishczajkowski: there certainly are such classes - CBT is supposed to help08:54
AlanBellmorning peeps09:20
danfishmorning Alans and all09:25
* daubers backs up his machine and drinks tea09:47
MartijnVdSdaubers: back it up? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo1cyl0QbWo09:48
* danfish is doing much the same -backup to crashplan09:48
=== gary_ is now known as Guest28348
=== christian is now known as Guest38578
brobostigonmorning everyone.10:50
Jibadeehahi brobostigon10:54
brobostigonhi Jibadeeha11:00
Jibadeehatime to play on my spectrum emulator11:06
* brobostigon has real ginger beer, :)12:19
JoShieldsnobody's applied for my old job then?12:22
brobostigonno idea.12:22
brobostigonJoShields: i did see a linux specialist in one of the oxford uni departentment the other day though.12:23
xr1Where do you add new fonts too? Where is the fonts directory12:24
gordxr1, /usr/share/fonts/truetype12:25
xr1gord: so you would just put fonts in there and they automatically work?12:29
xr1Ah yeah its working now thanks.12:30
JoShieldswhen you double-click on a font to view it, there's an install button iirc...12:58
* AlanBell plays with blender13:17
dutchiei think i need something to work on in all the free time i have now term has finished13:22
dutchiehmm, this screen is very grubby13:22
JoShieldsdutchie: mono packaging! :p13:23
dutchieonly in return for cake and microsoft money :P13:24
gordi'm starting to think i could develop a pretty accurate clock by measuring what part of the floor my cat is sleeping on, shes like a feline sun dial13:24
* hamitron bribes gord's cat over with "treats" to mess things up13:36
nigelbAlanBell: is it easy to use?13:44
nigelbAlanBell: I've been lost when I've tried13:44
nigelbIsn't JoShields, directhex?13:44
nigelbsneaky :P13:44
AlanBellI have managed to move a box and a cylinder about13:45
nigelbok, I didn't get that far.13:45
AlanBellit seems to be easier than when I last tried13:45
ali1234you have to learn teh keyboard shortcuts to use blender13:45
nigelbI had big dreams when I installed it after watching Sintel's making ;)13:45
ali1234the gui is largely useless13:45
AlanBellI think I may now be sufficiently competent to start using a tutorial13:45
ali1234everything good is in the menus13:46
AlanBellthere are some mouse gestures going on as well13:46
AlanBellI think I know two of them13:46
ali1234well, that's new13:46
AlanBellwatching this now http://www.blendercookie.com/getting-started-with-blender-navigation-and-interface/13:47
ali1234oh, 2.513:49
ali1234never got the hang of the new interface13:49
hamitronis unity mode any good in vmware?13:53
AlanBelldoubt it13:55
AlanBellworks in virtualbox 413:55
hamitronit is called unity in virtualbox?13:55
hamitrontry it suppose13:56
hamitronjust means a reboot, and I am lazy13:57
hamitronapplications running from ubuntu, in a windows 7 desktop is so cool14:02
hamitronuntil it broke14:08
brobostigon /join14:53
shaunoso quiet in here, I keep checking my dongle's still connected :/15:50
MooDooshauno: shuuush england are on telly ;)15:50
czajkowskiMooDoo: 1 week away mister!!!15:51
MooDooczajkowski: watching todays match, you'll pound us15:51
czajkowski meh not if we get a ref who's not able to you know.... ref!15:51
MooDoowell yeah15:51
shaunoah; I did wonder what england was up to, but didn't want to ask :)15:51
MooDooshauno: england vs scotland 9 all, crap ref :)15:52
MooDoooooops sorry anyone who's recording it :(15:52
shaunoco-worker's trying to explain exactly how the planets have to align for ireland to still win15:58
shaunoalways amazed that people who could otherwise fail an IQ test seem oddly capable of juggling huge trees of conditions the moment there's a ball involved15:59
DJonesAt the end of the day, the odds of any team winning a game are 50:50, they either will or they won't16:00
suprengrAt the end of the day, the odds of any team winning a game are 33.33%, they either will win, lose or draw [smug smile]16:06
DJonessuprengr: Good point16:07
DJonesAlthough that doesn't apply when golden point/penalties are part of the rules :)16:07
suprengrunless you turn off the tv at 'full' timeand pretend16:08
Neotiim getting a Samsung N150 Plus , and want to put ubuntu on there .. now do i have to use the netbook edition or can i use the desktop edition .. stupid Question i know ... ?16:13
penguin42Neoti: You can use either16:13
Neotii thought so16:13
Neotibut you never know :)16:14
Neotialso how do you get the system stats like in this pic to appear on the desktop http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1i7EX7a2ELY/TEZlZGCiUiI/AAAAAAAAAN4/P3s5MDhiNqk/s1600/Workspace+1_001.png16:16
shaunoI believe that's conky16:16
DJonesLooks like conky to me as well16:17
Neotii now also have on test a ubuntu 10.10 with all updates and XBMC with some adon like youtube and some apple trialers etc..  also modded a Linkys router and put ddwrt on to act as a repeater bridge for the living room and plugged the ubuntu box in to that ... all looks sweet... also i have the andriod remote app ... just to be ultra geeky ... lol .... i love it ...16:21
shaunoshouldn't have brought my laptop into work.  now I want to take this monitor home with me :(16:38
brobostigonwell done england,17:00
AlanBellnice kicking from the Farnham lad at the end there17:01
brobostigonin natty here, i am getting frequant ubuntu one update notifications, onfolders that havent even changed, very weird.17:02
brobostigonhehe, wales beat ireland, :)17:03
* DJones waits for brobostigon to be poked, prodded or otherwise disciplined by czajkowski 17:04
czajkowskiye wouldnt have won had the ref you know, REFFED!17:06
brobostigonczajkowski: ididnt watch said game,i amonly picking up onthe information late,without anydetails about said game.17:07
MooDooczajkowski: pah! poke! and LOOOOSERR! :)17:07
ubuntuuk-planet[Laura Czajkowski] Rugby Ubuntu meet up - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/03/13/rugby-ubuntu-meet-up/17:07
czajkowskibrobostigon: I sugest watching before coming in here and saying ye beat us so :)17:07
czajkowskiMooDoo: bring it!!!17:07
MooDooczajkowski: hay ho lets go....hey ho lets go :)17:08
brobostigonczajkowski: iwill watch it, it willbe on iplayer, :)17:08
* czajkowski hands brobostigon a space bar 17:09
pr0ph3thi all17:09
brobostigonczajkowski: my spacebar is playing up. :(17:09
pr0ph3tI really hope they will never stop support for the classic gnome desktop, as opposed to the unity desktop17:10
pr0ph3talthough it's looking really cool17:10
* suprengr kicks czajkowski's spacebar17:11
suprengr...did that help?17:11
* czajkowski frowns at suprengr 17:11
MooDooczajkowski: :p17:11
* daubers eats some cake17:14
Seeker`om nom nom17:15
* MooDoo sneaks up behind czajkowski to steal the cake17:17
* DJones watches as czajkowski drop kicks MooDoo straight between the posts from halfway17:19
MooDooDJones: pah! she's irish and like her team....RUBBISH ;)17:19
* MooDoo runs and ducks for cover17:19
* czajkowski glares at MooDoo 17:19
czajkowskioi less of that mister or you and I shall have a falling out17:19
MooDooczajkowski: :) love you really x17:20
czajkowskiMooDoo: and you wont have Davmor2 to save you next week17:20
MooDooczajkowski: eeeeeeeeeeeek17:20
* Azelphur prods shauno17:36
Azelphuryay your here :p17:36
Azelphurcan I pm you I want to bug you about minecraft map stuff17:36
shauno*'re.  and sure.  just beware my shift finishes in 20 mins ;)17:36
danfishyeah - Paddy's day angry birds special17:49
danfishczajkowski: ^^^17:49
penguin42danfish: All green birds?17:57
Azelphurquestion re /home encryption on Ubuntu, I assume if you hack up a root shell and change the account password, you don't get a decrypted copy of /home :P18:02
czajkowskidanfish: heh18:11
shaunothe paddy's day special is just a GL filter to blur the whole thing out18:12
penguin42Azelphur: That is my understanding, I think your account password is used to decrypt the key that's used to encrypt the data on /home, so changing the account password wouldn't help you get that key; to change the password on there I think you have to decrypt the key using the existing password and then reencrypt using the new one18:44
penguin42Azelphur: Not that I've actually looked at the code18:44
Azelphurfun :P18:44
=== OmNomDePlume is now known as Stalin_Cat
tervohow do you change runlevels in ubuntu19:13
SuperMattuhm, telinit may work19:13
MartijnVdSUbuntu doesn't have runlevels anymore19:13
MartijnVdSsince upstart19:13
MartijnVdSI guess?19:14
tervoits all upstart scripts19:14
MartijnVdStervo: upstart is really nice once you learn how to work it19:14
tervomy X doesnt work19:14
tervoso im trying to change runlevels and see19:14
MartijnVdSthat's not how it works in Ubuntu :)19:15
lubotu3The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution19:15
tervoso i shouldnt have to modify xorg.conf?19:17
tervoi stopped gdm and tried that but my monitor is out of range and keyboard doesnt work19:17
MartijnVdSnot unless you have a very strange combination of video card19:17
MartijnVdSand monitor19:17
tervowhat is ?dm19:21
tervosudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart19:21
tervoi cant even login to ubuntu now19:21
tervoonce i start ubntu, monitor goes out of range and keyboard fails19:22
DJonestervo: ?dm refers to kdm/gdm etc depending on whether you're using kde or gnome as far as I'm aware19:22
brobostigon /etc/init.d/gdm restart   ,gdm is an example.19:22
popeyor xdm19:22
brobostigonor aiccu*19:22
tervoyeah but i cant even login to ubuntu now19:22
tervokeybord stops working and monitor is out of range19:22
DJonesbrobostigon: Bless you, hope your cold clears up soon :)19:22
brobostigonDJones: hehe, :)19:23
tervoany ideas19:23
tervogrub's gone..19:23
tervoany ideas?19:24
brobostigonmy first thought, is a bootup, cli only, without xorg trying to start,19:25
brobostigonminute, recovery.19:25
tervothe ubntu is on a usb19:26
tervoso i just boot it from a usb19:26
tervobut if i do  thee's no cli, nothing19:26
tervokeyboard stops working19:26
brobostigoncant you boot in inrecovery, from grub prompt.?19:26
tervogrub is gone19:27
tervoi put in the windows cd and grubwas gone19:27
brobostigonyes, windows will have killedgrub, iwould try and reinstall grub onto it.19:27
lubotu3GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:27
brobostigoniwould try and restore grub first.19:28
tervolet me do that19:29
brobostigonand then bootinto reocvery, and then work out a xorg.conf with popey,19:29
tervowhere do i download just grub from19:29
brobostigontervo: use the instructions inthe page irefferred to above.19:29
ali1234why doesn't ubuntu use hybrid isos?19:29
tervobrobostigon: based on the link there19:30
tervoit says download a live cd19:30
brobostigonor use a liveusb,19:31
tervowill try this in the morning thanks for the link19:31
tervowill return later19:31
brobostigonyes, and tell it to instal grub to the device,referring tothe live usb you are using, as the grubinstall target.19:31
brobostigontervo: other people  mayhave other ideas though, but that is mine,19:33
tervoi will restore grub in the morning19:33
tervotired messing with this now19:33
tervobut gonna try it and see how it goes19:33
brobostigonyoure welcome,19:33
shaunoheh, quote from another channel(/network) .. "i dont want to loose my wobbly windows".  I thought that was meant to be a demo.  feature?19:48
MartijnVdSso? if people like it.. why remove it19:49
MartijnVdSand it's nice/show-offy19:49
shaunojust never seen it referred to as a feature like that.  thought it was curious19:50
ali1234when i use a system that doesn't have wobbly windows it feels old and clunky19:51
brobostigonwell, i am a beos man, always think,whats the point inhaving eye-candy, if it doesnt actually improve usability,19:51
MartijnVdSali1234: I want it to have the "throw ball" sound effect from Little Big Adventure19:51
ali1234also, "the boop gas gf tha oth`p foop"19:52
=== SuperMat1 is now known as SuperMatt
ali1234i think that's supposed to say "the boot was on the other foot"19:52
ali1234anyone got a code snippet to print utf-8 characters?19:53
MartijnVdSali1234: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Lz2Ai9dmU&feature=player_detailpage#t=266s19:54
MartijnVdSali1234: THAT sound :)19:54
MartijnVdSali1234: exactly!19:55
MartijnVdSali1234: print UTF8? Easy :)19:55
MartijnVdSali1234: which language?19:55
MartijnVdSno idea :)19:55
MartijnVdSPython or Perl.. I can help19:56
ali1234i know how to do it19:56
ali1234what i don't know how to do is encode the unicode values to utf-8 strings19:56
ali1234so %lc basically... hmm19:58
ali1234i will try it19:58
ali1234i can't actually use locale encoding because unicode doesn't officially contain the characters i need19:59
MartijnVdSali1234: Klingon? :)19:59
ali1234btw, i'm sure i remember seeing a patch for compiz that generated wobbling sounds based on a string simulation of the window19:59
ali1234maybe i imagined it20:00
ali1234nope, %lc does not work here20:02
=== webpigeon_laptop is now known as webpigeon
popeyevening ratfans20:09
* Azelphur waves20:09
brobostigonevening popey20:09
AzelphurI'm still trying to fix that minecraft map problem \o/20:10
czajkowskipopey: oi oi20:11
popeyczajkowski: fixed your sound?20:11
czajkowskiless than impressed20:11
popeygimmie ssh access and I'll fix it ;)20:11
czajkowskibut if thats the only bug I find it's not bad20:11
czajkowskipopey: ok20:12
popeyoh :)20:12
czajkowskipopey: still shouldnt have lost sound20:12
popeyyeah, it happens20:12
popeyi lost sound on my mac20:12
popeytweaked and it works now20:12
popeywhich machine is it?20:12
Azelphuranyone know how to pop the keys off a laptop keyboard?20:13
Azelphurwithout breaking it :P20:13
popeydepends on the laptop20:13
dutchieAzelphur: depends on the model20:13
Azelphurpopey: it's the XPS M1730 :)20:14
czajkowskiI used to be able to share desktop20:14
czajkowskicant find the filling option in empathy20:14
Azelphurmy mums laptops power supply died so I want to loan her mine for a while, but the keyboard is AZERTY20:15
Azelphurso I need to do a key shuffle20:15
Azelphur(XPS M1730 with AZERTY: £500, XPS M1730 with QWERTY: £650, you do the math :P)20:15
popeyITYM Maths.20:16
popeyor Mathematics.20:16
dutchieyay, maths20:16
MartijnVdSAzelphur: can you provide us with a close-up picture (about 45 degree angle) of the keyboard?20:16
MartijnVdSAzelphur: ;)20:16
AzelphurMartijnVdS: yup20:16
* shauno wonders if belgian XPS taste as good as waffles20:19
MartijnVdSshauno: don't you mean carrots?20:19
shaunoracking my mind, but I can't remember belgian carrots ever being used in context20:20
AzelphurMartijnVdS: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/March%202011/IMG_20110313_201613.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/March%202011/IMG_20110313_201529.jpg20:22
MartijnVdShave you tried poking a scredriver under a key (only the rim!) and pulling up?20:23
MartijnVdSto look what's underneath?20:23
Azelphurthat's pretty much what I did in the first photo?20:23
MartijnVdSah yes :)20:23
MartijnVdSI'd just pull harder.. looks pretty standard20:23
MartijnVdS(but it's your laptop/warranty/etc.)20:24
MartijnVdSit might crack a little, that's the "scissor" detaching from the button20:24
MartijnVdS(press down on the button to re-attach)20:24
Azelphuryup, seems to come up20:25
Azelphurpretty straight forward, now to do it another billion times xD20:26
Azelphurhmm, installed natty on my netbook, where's the cool unity side panel at?20:35
AzelphurI got the normal gnome-panels at top/bottom, but no unity :(20:35
brobostigonAzelphur: it maybe, it cant doopengl then, to run unity, ie compiz.20:36
Azelphurah yea, I have to install nvidia graphics drivers then :)20:36
ali1234i thought there was a unity fallback version for non-accelerated graphics?20:47
MartijnVdSyes, metacity.20:47
ali1234netbooks should be able to run accelerated graphics anyway20:48
ali1234mine does, and it's really old20:48
ali1234unless it's gma500 or something20:48
HazRPGKita89: hi21:33
HazRPGKita89: My guess would be, you have :)21:33
HazRPGKita89: seems your on the right one then :)21:34
Kita89its a good start huh? :)21:34
brobostigonevening HazRPG :)21:34
HazRPGKita89: this is the ubuntu-uk community, they've always been nice to me... so I'm sure they'll give you the same treatment21:34
HazRPGKita89: indeed :)21:34
HazRPGbrobostigon: hey dude :)21:34
brobostigonHazRPG: :)21:35
HazRPGhey MartijnVdS :)21:35
nperry\o/ last outcasts tonight, anyone watching?21:35
HazRPGKita89: quick tip, not sure if it works on empathy - but if you start typing someone's name and then hit tab, it should auto complete the persons name21:35
Kita89HazRPG: o it does :)21:36
HazRPGKita89: it also helps notify people that your talking to them21:36
HazRPGnperry: last outcasts?21:37
Kita89HazRPG:  awesome21:37
brobostigonKita89: the tab,autocomplete also works innormalterminal aswell. :)21:37
Kita89brobostigon: in what now?21:37
* MartijnVdS gives brobostigon a new space bar21:37
MartijnVdSKita89: in a normal terminal window21:37
brobostigonKita89: in a normal terminal.21:37
HazRPGbrobostigon: the terminal, when you need to type in commands of directories/files, etc21:37
* brobostigon thnks MartijnVdS :)21:37
Kita89brobostigon:  awesome :)21:37
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: aswell? is that a relative of alot? :)21:37
brobostigonHazRPG: yes, :)21:38
HazRPGbrobostigon: ah crumbs, was meant to put Kita89 :P21:38
brobostigonMartijnVdS: kinda.21:38
MartijnVdSHazRPG: you didn't know about terminal tab completion?!21:38
HazRPGMartijnVdS: of course I did!21:38
HazRPGMartijnVdS: was where I learned about it in the first place :P21:38
Cepheusone of the worst things about cmd.exe is the stupid tab completion.21:39
HazRPGCepheus: heh, didn't think cmd did it!21:39
Kita89Cepheus: but you dont have to press tab, so surely its all good, right?21:39
HazRPGKita89: its just useful when you have lots that you need to type in - means your less likely to get CTS21:40
Cepheusor RSI21:40
Kita89HazRPG:  well im not on my comp enough to worry about CTS :P21:40
HazRPGCepheus: essentially the same thing isn't it :P?21:40
HazRPGKita89: you'd be surprised ;)21:41
MartijnVdSHazRPG: or DVT?21:41
HazRPGMartijnVdS: that's a new one on me, what's that?21:41
Kita89MartijnVdS:  i hope not...21:41
MartijnVdSHazRPG: that's what you get when you don't walk around during a long flight (deep vein thrombosis)21:41
MartijnVdS+more likely to21:42
HazRPGMartijnVdS: Oh, yeah I know that one :)21:42
HazRPGMartijnVdS: I travel to Egypt a lot, and my mum's a midwife/doctor... so she tells me about it a lot.21:43
MartijnVdStime for some sleep.. work tomorrow ;)21:43
* AlanBell is now ranked #8 in #ubuntu-trivia21:43
HazRPGAlanBell: wow, gratz dude :)21:43
AlanBellczajkowski: there are better categories than that one!21:55
czajkowskidear gods I hope so21:55
AlanBellscifi or geography are good21:56
AlanBellanyone else want to come and play?21:57
HazRPGwow, only 15 have said when they can join the quiz :S22:00
AlanBellyeah, looks like the 16th22:01
czajkowskiwhoo more folks signed up to rugby meet up22:01
AlanBellgoing to close the poll before they do the podcast recording22:01
HazRPGhmm, for those of you who haven't voted just yet link is here: http://doodle.com/eucwzx2qdiiiqs5p22:02
HazRPGbrobostigon: aww, you can only make it on the 23th?22:03
HazRPGbrobostigon: :(22:03
brobostigonHazRPG: looks like it, but i can try and move things around. there is some  flexibility.22:03
HazRPGbrobostigon: \o/22:03
shaunoI r disappoint. census wasn't even funny.22:04
brobostigonHazRPG: :)22:07
HazRPGshauno: with census?22:19
HazRPGshauno: as in the UK census, for gathering info about the population?22:21
caulkzanyone recommend a bluetooth adaptor?22:23
BaikonurHazRPG: i think he ment the doodle quiz22:24
shaunoHazRPG: minus the UK bit, aye22:33
HazRPGshauno: fair enough :) - what's your beef with census?22:35
shaunosimple.  not entertaining enough :)22:37
HazRPGI don't think its meant to be though... lol22:39
brobostigongood night everyone, sleep well.22:41
HazRPGdaubers: evening dude22:44
=== webpigeon_ is now known as webpigeon_laptop
=== webpigeon_laptop is now known as webpigeon
daubersAnyone familiar with github??23:27
mgdmdaubers: mildly23:27
daubersI've done a simple fix to a project I was using, github told me to fork the project to upload some changes, so I did, now how on earth do I send a request to the original project to say I've fixed it in this branch?23:28
mgdmsend a pull request23:28
daubersIt only offers me my branches in the blasted interface23:29
mgdmGo to their one23:30
dutchiedaubers: is there not a big pull request button in the top right?23:30
daubersYes, but that offers me my branches23:30
dutchieah yes, to their branch23:30
daubersmgdm: I can't see on on theirs23:30
daubersblummin 'eck what a hassle23:34
mgdmit's not that much, any time I've done it23:35

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