[00:24] hmmmm [00:24] virtual machines aren't going to work for mee [00:35] seriously just spent an hour mining and then fell in the lava [01:51] I may have to go to ultrachip in august! [02:24] shauno: you about? :P [02:32] night all [02:32] see ya in the AM's some time :) [06:10] morning [06:31] \o [08:25] morning all [08:25] popey: Morning. [08:34] Aloha [08:35] is there a class somewhere I can sign up to learn how to sleep, please :( [08:50] A pint of wine before bed normally goes well for me. === nperry_ is now known as nperry [08:51] hello all [08:54] czajkowski: there certainly are such classes - CBT is supposed to help [09:20] morning peeps [09:24] \o [09:25] morning Alans and all [09:47] Morning [09:47] daubster [09:47] * daubers backs up his machine and drinks tea [09:48] daubers: back it up? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo1cyl0QbWo [09:48] * danfish is doing much the same -backup to crashplan === gary_ is now known as Guest28348 === christian is now known as Guest38578 [10:50] morning everyone. [10:54] hi brobostigon [11:00] hi Jibadeeha [11:06] time to play on my spectrum emulator [12:09] moo. [12:16] boo [12:18] :) [12:19] * brobostigon has real ginger beer, :) [12:22] nobody's applied for my old job then? [12:22] no idea. [12:23] JoShields: i did see a linux specialist in one of the oxford uni departentment the other day though. [12:24] Where do you add new fonts too? Where is the fonts directory [12:25] xr1, /usr/share/fonts/truetype [12:29] gord: so you would just put fonts in there and they automatically work? [12:30] Ah yeah its working now thanks. [12:58] when you double-click on a font to view it, there's an install button iirc... [13:17] * AlanBell plays with blender [13:22] i think i need something to work on in all the free time i have now term has finished [13:22] hmm, this screen is very grubby [13:23] dutchie: mono packaging! :p [13:24] only in return for cake and microsoft money :P [13:24] i'm starting to think i could develop a pretty accurate clock by measuring what part of the floor my cat is sleeping on, shes like a feline sun dial [13:36] * hamitron bribes gord's cat over with "treats" to mess things up [13:44] AlanBell: is it easy to use? [13:44] AlanBell: I've been lost when I've tried [13:44] Isn't JoShields, directhex? [13:44] yes [13:44] sneaky :P [13:45] I have managed to move a box and a cylinder about [13:45] ok, I didn't get that far. [13:45] it seems to be easier than when I last tried [13:45] you have to learn teh keyboard shortcuts to use blender [13:45] I had big dreams when I installed it after watching Sintel's making ;) [13:45] the gui is largely useless [13:45] I think I may now be sufficiently competent to start using a tutorial [13:46] everything good is in the menus [13:46] there are some mouse gestures going on as well [13:46] I think I know two of them [13:46] well, that's new [13:47] watching this now http://www.blendercookie.com/getting-started-with-blender-navigation-and-interface/ [13:49] oh, 2.5 [13:49] never got the hang of the new interface [13:53] is unity mode any good in vmware? [13:55] doubt it [13:55] works in virtualbox 4 [13:55] it is called unity in virtualbox? [13:56] try it suppose [13:57] just means a reboot, and I am lazy [13:57] ;) [14:01] :D [14:02] applications running from ubuntu, in a windows 7 desktop is so cool [14:08] until it broke [14:08] :/ [14:49] #ubuntu [14:53] /join [15:50] so quiet in here, I keep checking my dongle's still connected :/ [15:50] shauno: shuuush england are on telly ;) [15:50] ahhh [15:51] MooDoo: 1 week away mister!!! [15:51] czajkowski: watching todays match, you'll pound us [15:51] meh not if we get a ref who's not able to you know.... ref! [15:51] mupperty [15:51] well yeah [15:51] ah; I did wonder what england was up to, but didn't want to ask :) [15:52] shauno: england vs scotland 9 all, crap ref :) [15:52] oooops sorry anyone who's recording it :( [15:58] co-worker's trying to explain exactly how the planets have to align for ireland to still win [15:59] always amazed that people who could otherwise fail an IQ test seem oddly capable of juggling huge trees of conditions the moment there's a ball involved [16:00] At the end of the day, the odds of any team winning a game are 50:50, they either will or they won't [16:06] At the end of the day, the odds of any team winning a game are 33.33%, they either will win, lose or draw [smug smile] [16:07] suprengr: Good point [16:07] ;) [16:07] Although that doesn't apply when golden point/penalties are part of the rules :) [16:08] unless you turn off the tv at 'full' timeand pretend [16:09] lol [16:13] im getting a Samsung N150 Plus , and want to put ubuntu on there .. now do i have to use the netbook edition or can i use the desktop edition .. stupid Question i know ... ? [16:13] Neoti: You can use either [16:13] i thought so [16:14] but you never know :) [16:16] also how do you get the system stats like in this pic to appear on the desktop http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1i7EX7a2ELY/TEZlZGCiUiI/AAAAAAAAAN4/P3s5MDhiNqk/s1600/Workspace+1_001.png [16:16] I believe that's conky [16:17] Looks like conky to me as well [16:21] i now also have on test a ubuntu 10.10 with all updates and XBMC with some adon like youtube and some apple trialers etc.. also modded a Linkys router and put ddwrt on to act as a repeater bridge for the living room and plugged the ubuntu box in to that ... all looks sweet... also i have the andriod remote app ... just to be ultra geeky ... lol .... i love it ... [16:38] shouldn't have brought my laptop into work. now I want to take this monitor home with me :( [16:45] LOL [17:00] well done england, [17:00] yay [17:01] nice kicking from the Farnham lad at the end there [17:02] in natty here, i am getting frequant ubuntu one update notifications, onfolders that havent even changed, very weird. [17:03] hehe, wales beat ireland, :) [17:04] * DJones waits for brobostigon to be poked, prodded or otherwise disciplined by czajkowski [17:04] :( [17:06] unfairly!!!! [17:06] ye wouldnt have won had the ref you know, REFFED! [17:06] *mutters* [17:07] czajkowski: ididnt watch said game,i amonly picking up onthe information late,without anydetails about said game. [17:07] czajkowski: pah! poke! and LOOOOSERR! :) [17:07] [Laura Czajkowski] Rugby Ubuntu meet up - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/03/13/rugby-ubuntu-meet-up/ [17:07] brobostigon: I sugest watching before coming in here and saying ye beat us so :) [17:07] MooDoo: bring it!!! [17:08] czajkowski: hay ho lets go....hey ho lets go :) [17:08] czajkowski: iwill watch it, it willbe on iplayer, :) [17:09] * czajkowski hands brobostigon a space bar [17:09] hi all [17:09] czajkowski: my spacebar is playing up. :( [17:10] I really hope they will never stop support for the classic gnome desktop, as opposed to the unity desktop [17:10] although it's looking really cool [17:11] * suprengr kicks czajkowski's spacebar [17:11] ...did that help? [17:11] * czajkowski frowns at suprengr [17:11] czajkowski: :p [17:14] * daubers eats some cake [17:15] om nom nom [17:15] CAKE!!! [17:17] * MooDoo sneaks up behind czajkowski to steal the cake [17:19] * DJones watches as czajkowski drop kicks MooDoo straight between the posts from halfway [17:19] DJones: pah! she's irish and like her team....RUBBISH ;) [17:19] * MooDoo runs and ducks for cover [17:19] * czajkowski glares at MooDoo [17:19] oi less of that mister or you and I shall have a falling out [17:20] czajkowski: :) love you really x [17:20] MooDoo: and you wont have Davmor2 to save you next week [17:20] czajkowski: eeeeeeeeeeeek [17:36] * Azelphur prods shauno [17:36] eep [17:36] yay your here :p [17:36] can I pm you I want to bug you about minecraft map stuff [17:36] *'re. and sure. just beware my shift finishes in 20 mins ;) [17:36] :p [17:49] yeah - Paddy's day angry birds special [17:49] czajkowski: ^^^ [17:57] danfish: All green birds? [18:02] question re /home encryption on Ubuntu, I assume if you hack up a root shell and change the account password, you don't get a decrypted copy of /home :P [18:11] danfish: heh [18:12] the paddy's day special is just a GL filter to blur the whole thing out [18:44] Azelphur: That is my understanding, I think your account password is used to decrypt the key that's used to encrypt the data on /home, so changing the account password wouldn't help you get that key; to change the password on there I think you have to decrypt the key using the existing password and then reencrypt using the new one [18:44] Azelphur: Not that I've actually looked at the code [18:44] fun :P === OmNomDePlume is now known as Stalin_Cat [19:13] how do you change runlevels in ubuntu [19:13] uhm, telinit may work [19:13] Ubuntu doesn't have runlevels anymore [19:13] since upstart [19:14] I guess? [19:14] yeah [19:14] its all upstart scripts [19:14] ugh [19:14] tervo: upstart is really nice once you learn how to work it [19:14] my X doesnt work [19:14] so im trying to change runlevels and see [19:15] that's not how it works in Ubuntu :) [19:15] !fixvideo [19:15] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [19:17] so i shouldnt have to modify xorg.conf? [19:17] i stopped gdm and tried that but my monitor is out of range and keyboard doesnt work [19:17] not unless you have a very strange combination of video card [19:17] and monitor [19:18] ok [19:21] what is ?dm [19:21] sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart [19:21] i cant even login to ubuntu now [19:22] once i start ubntu, monitor goes out of range and keyboard fails [19:22] tervo: ?dm refers to kdm/gdm etc depending on whether you're using kde or gnome as far as I'm aware [19:22] /etc/init.d/gdm restart ,gdm is an example. [19:22] or xdm [19:22] or aiccu* [19:22] yeah but i cant even login to ubuntu now [19:22] keybord stops working and monitor is out of range [19:22] brobostigon: Bless you, hope your cold clears up soon :) [19:23] DJones: hehe, :) [19:23] any ideas [19:23] grub's gone.. [19:24] any ideas? [19:25] my first thought, is a bootup, cli only, without xorg trying to start, [19:25] minute, recovery. [19:26] the ubntu is on a usb [19:26] so i just boot it from a usb [19:26] but if i do thee's no cli, nothing [19:26] keyboard stops working [19:26] cant you boot in inrecovery, from grub prompt.? [19:27] grub is gone [19:27] i put in the windows cd and grubwas gone [19:27] yes, windows will have killedgrub, iwould try and reinstall grub onto it. [19:27] !grub2 [19:27] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [19:28] brb, [19:28] iwould try and restore grub first. [19:29] ok [19:29] let me do that [19:29] and then bootinto reocvery, and then work out a xorg.conf with popey, [19:29] where do i download just grub from [19:29] tervo: use the instructions inthe page irefferred to above. [19:29] why doesn't ubuntu use hybrid isos? [19:30] brobostigon: based on the link there [19:30] it says download a live cd [19:31] or use a liveusb, [19:31] ok [19:31] will try this in the morning thanks for the link [19:31] will return later [19:31] thanks [19:31] yes, and tell it to instal grub to the device,referring tothe live usb you are using, as the grubinstall target. [19:32] noted [19:33] tervo: other people mayhave other ideas though, but that is mine, [19:33] i will restore grub in the morning [19:33] tired messing with this now [19:33] but gonna try it and see how it goes [19:33] thanks [19:33] youre welcome, [19:48] heh, quote from another channel(/network) .. "i dont want to loose my wobbly windows". I thought that was meant to be a demo. feature? [19:49] so? if people like it.. why remove it [19:49] and it's nice/show-offy [19:50] just never seen it referred to as a feature like that. thought it was curious [19:51] when i use a system that doesn't have wobbly windows it feels old and clunky [19:51] well, i am a beos man, always think,whats the point inhaving eye-candy, if it doesnt actually improve usability, [19:51] ali1234: I want it to have the "throw ball" sound effect from Little Big Adventure [19:52] also, "the boop gas gf tha oth`p foop" === SuperMat1 is now known as SuperMatt [19:52] i think that's supposed to say "the boot was on the other foot" [19:53] anyone got a code snippet to print utf-8 characters? [19:54] ali1234: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Lz2Ai9dmU&feature=player_detailpage#t=266s [19:54] ali1234: THAT sound :) [19:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M_Zh_Azz-4 [19:55] ali1234: exactly! [19:55] ali1234: print UTF8? Easy :) [19:55] ali1234: which language? [19:55] C [19:55] ah [19:55] no idea :) [19:56] Python or Perl.. I can help [19:56] i know how to do it [19:56] what i don't know how to do is encode the unicode values to utf-8 strings [19:57] http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-c27zcwF3bMJ:swishewiki.org/sw/index.php/Unicode_C_Example+c+utf-8+examples&hl=en&client=ubuntu&gl=nl&strip=1 [19:58] so %lc basically... hmm [19:58] i will try it [19:59] i can't actually use locale encoding because unicode doesn't officially contain the characters i need [19:59] ali1234: Klingon? :) [19:59] btw, i'm sure i remember seeing a patch for compiz that generated wobbling sounds based on a string simulation of the window [20:00] maybe i imagined it [20:02] nope, %lc does not work here === webpigeon_laptop is now known as webpigeon [20:09] evening ratfans [20:09] * Azelphur waves [20:09] evening popey [20:10] I'm still trying to fix that minecraft map problem \o/ [20:11] popey: oi oi [20:11] czajkowski: fixed your sound? [20:11] nope [20:11] less than impressed [20:11] gimmie ssh access and I'll fix it ;) [20:11] but if thats the only bug I find it's not bad [20:12] hehehe [20:12] popey: ok [20:12] oh :) [20:12] popey: still shouldnt have lost sound [20:12] yeah, it happens [20:12] i lost sound on my mac [20:12] tweaked and it works now [20:12] which machine is it? [20:12] tosh [20:13] anyone know how to pop the keys off a laptop keyboard? [20:13] without breaking it :P [20:13] depends on the laptop [20:13] Azelphur: depends on the model [20:14] hmmm [20:14] popey: it's the XPS M1730 :) [20:14] I used to be able to share desktop [20:14] cant find the filling option in empathy [20:15] my mums laptops power supply died so I want to loan her mine for a while, but the keyboard is AZERTY [20:15] so I need to do a key shuffle [20:15] (XPS M1730 with AZERTY: £500, XPS M1730 with QWERTY: £650, you do the math :P) [20:16] ITYM Maths. [20:16] or Mathematics. [20:16] yay, maths [20:16] Azelphur: can you provide us with a close-up picture (about 45 degree angle) of the keyboard? [20:16] :P [20:16] Azelphur: ;) [20:16] MartijnVdS: yup [20:19] * shauno wonders if belgian XPS taste as good as waffles [20:19] shauno: don't you mean carrots? [20:20] racking my mind, but I can't remember belgian carrots ever being used in context [20:22] MartijnVdS: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/March%202011/IMG_20110313_201613.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/March%202011/IMG_20110313_201529.jpg [20:23] have you tried poking a scredriver under a key (only the rim!) and pulling up? [20:23] (slowly!) [20:23] to look what's underneath? [20:23] that's pretty much what I did in the first photo? [20:23] ah yes :) [20:23] I'd just pull harder.. looks pretty standard [20:24] (but it's your laptop/warranty/etc.) [20:24] it might crack a little, that's the "scissor" detaching from the button [20:24] \o/ [20:24] (press down on the button to re-attach) [20:25] yup, seems to come up [20:26] pretty straight forward, now to do it another billion times xD [20:35] hmm, installed natty on my netbook, where's the cool unity side panel at? [20:35] I got the normal gnome-panels at top/bottom, but no unity :( [20:36] Azelphur: it maybe, it cant doopengl then, to run unity, ie compiz. [20:36] ah yea, I have to install nvidia graphics drivers then :) [20:47] i thought there was a unity fallback version for non-accelerated graphics? [20:47] yes, metacity. [20:48] netbooks should be able to run accelerated graphics anyway [20:48] mine does, and it's really old [20:48] unless it's gma500 or something [21:33] Kita89: hi [21:33] hi [21:33] Kita89: My guess would be, you have :) [21:33] :) [21:34] Kita89: seems your on the right one then :) [21:34] its a good start huh? :) [21:34] evening HazRPG :) [21:34] Kita89: this is the ubuntu-uk community, they've always been nice to me... so I'm sure they'll give you the same treatment [21:34] Kita89: indeed :) [21:34] :) [21:34] brobostigon: hey dude :) [21:35] HazRPG: :) [21:35] \o [21:35] hey MartijnVdS :) [21:35] o/ [21:35] \o/ last outcasts tonight, anyone watching? [21:35] Kita89: quick tip, not sure if it works on empathy - but if you start typing someone's name and then hit tab, it should auto complete the persons name [21:36] HazRPG: o it does :) [21:36] Kita89: it also helps notify people that your talking to them [21:37] nperry: last outcasts? [21:37] HazRPG: awesome [21:37] Kita89: the tab,autocomplete also works innormalterminal aswell. :) [21:37] brobostigon: in what now? [21:37] * MartijnVdS gives brobostigon a new space bar [21:37] Kita89: in a normal terminal window [21:37] Kita89: in a normal terminal. [21:37] brobostigon: the terminal, when you need to type in commands of directories/files, etc [21:37] * brobostigon thnks MartijnVdS :) [21:37] brobostigon: awesome :) [21:37] brobostigon: aswell? is that a relative of alot? :) [21:38] HazRPG: yes, :) [21:38] brobostigon: ah crumbs, was meant to put Kita89 :P [21:38] MartijnVdS: kinda. [21:38] HazRPG: you didn't know about terminal tab completion?! [21:38] MartijnVdS: of course I did! [21:38] MartijnVdS: was where I learned about it in the first place :P [21:38] :) [21:39] one of the worst things about cmd.exe is the stupid tab completion. [21:39] Cepheus: heh, didn't think cmd did it! [21:39] Cepheus: but you dont have to press tab, so surely its all good, right? [21:39] >_< [21:40] Kita89: its just useful when you have lots that you need to type in - means your less likely to get CTS [21:40] or RSI [21:40] HazRPG: well im not on my comp enough to worry about CTS :P [21:40] Cepheus: essentially the same thing isn't it :P? [21:41] Kita89: you'd be surprised ;) [21:41] HazRPG: or DVT? [21:41] MartijnVdS: that's a new one on me, what's that? [21:41] MartijnVdS: i hope not... [21:41] HazRPG: that's what you get when you don't walk around during a long flight (deep vein thrombosis) [21:42] +more likely to [21:42] MartijnVdS: Oh, yeah I know that one :) [21:43] MartijnVdS: I travel to Egypt a lot, and my mum's a midwife/doctor... so she tells me about it a lot. [21:43] time for some sleep.. work tomorrow ;) [21:43] * AlanBell is now ranked #8 in #ubuntu-trivia [21:43] AlanBell: wow, gratz dude :) [21:55] czajkowski: there are better categories than that one! [21:55] dear gods I hope so [21:56] scifi or geography are good [21:57] anyone else want to come and play? [22:00] wow, only 15 have said when they can join the quiz :S [22:01] yeah, looks like the 16th [22:01] whoo more folks signed up to rugby meet up [22:01] going to close the poll before they do the podcast recording [22:02] hmm, for those of you who haven't voted just yet link is here: http://doodle.com/eucwzx2qdiiiqs5p [22:03] brobostigon: aww, you can only make it on the 23th? [22:03] brobostigon: :( [22:03] HazRPG: looks like it, but i can try and move things around. there is some flexibility. [22:03] brobostigon: \o/ [22:04] I r disappoint. census wasn't even funny. [22:07] HazRPG: :) [22:19] shauno: with census? [22:21] shauno: as in the UK census, for gathering info about the population? [22:23] anyone recommend a bluetooth adaptor? [22:24] HazRPG: i think he ment the doodle quiz [22:28] Evening [22:33] HazRPG: minus the UK bit, aye [22:35] shauno: fair enough :) - what's your beef with census? [22:37] simple. not entertaining enough :) [22:39] lol [22:39] I don't think its meant to be though... lol [22:41] good night everyone, sleep well. [22:44] daubers: evening dude === webpigeon_ is now known as webpigeon_laptop [23:04] #android === webpigeon_laptop is now known as webpigeon [23:27] Anyone familiar with github?? [23:27] daubers: mildly [23:28] I've done a simple fix to a project I was using, github told me to fork the project to upload some changes, so I did, now how on earth do I send a request to the original project to say I've fixed it in this branch? [23:28] send a pull request [23:29] How? [23:29] It only offers me my branches in the blasted interface [23:30] Go to their one [23:30] daubers: is there not a big pull request button in the top right? [23:30] Yes, but that offers me my branches [23:30] ah yes, to their branch [23:30] mgdm: I can't see on on theirs [23:34] blummin 'eck what a hassle [23:35] it's not that much, any time I've done it