[00:01] does anyone know something about the ubuntu one click button ? we have one and want to add a repository there (www.unknown-horizons.org) ive heard we have to be added i a whitelist, is that true, and who is maintaining this list ? === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === gr3gg0r is now known as greggory-hz [04:47] So I'm looking to get involved in Ubuntu development (specifically Unity). Looking through the "bitesize" bugs, I came across "Search cursor in Unity's Dash, File Places and Application Places search field should blink on focus" https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/730273 (I figured this is as good a place as any to start getting familiar) .... I've been looking through the unity source for a bit, but I can't seem where to find [04:47] the code related to this, would anyone be able to nudge me in the right direction? [04:47] Ubuntu bug 730273 in unity (Ubuntu) "Search cursor in Unity’s Dash, File Places and Application Places search field should blink on focus" [Undecided,Confirmed] [04:57] how about src/PlacesSearchBar.cpp ? [04:59] but I don't know if that's the file you need === API is now known as Guest92695 [06:06] how do emblems on the launchers look like? [06:33] god, I have an issue and I have no idea how to summarize it for the bug title. [06:35] when I set a window to take part of the workspace, and make it touch one of the desktop's edges I can't switch back to it from another workspace using launcher. [06:35] the window is moved a bit instead, and it ends up between workspaces. [06:36] this also leads me to the second bug - even if a small part of application's window is visible on the current workspace Unity/compiz won't switch you to the workspace where the major part of the window is. [06:37] instead the window gets the focus, but is not visible because there is only a pixel or so of it on the current workspace.. === Guest92695 is now known as apinheiro [07:57] greetings everybody [08:03] good morning [08:10] good morning [08:17] wow, compiz just died.. because it ran out of memory [08:38] and it happened again - it leakes over 3GB of memory in 20 minutes.. === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF === marquinos is now known as Guest4630 [09:35] Hi! How can I set an icon for my app in the Unity panel? :) Thanks in advance! [09:36] Is get from .desktop file? [09:37] Yes. [09:40] RAOF: Thanks. I have a 48x48 image now. If I put more icons in the other folders (64x64, 128x128...) Unity will search a better resolution? or will be get the .desktop file? [09:40] Guest4630: try and use an 'icon name' rather than a png and add the files to the hi-color theme in various sizes e.g. 22,24,32,48 pixels as it'll look sharp at any size [09:41] thanks klattimer ;) [09:41] I'll tray! [09:41] Guest4630: http://library.gnome.org/devel/icon-naming-spec/ [09:43] klattimer: great support :) thanks very much! [09:43] yw [09:48] kamstrup: hi [09:49] kamstrup: I think the files daemon is/was sending back results belonging to group UnityEmptySearchRenderer in the global results when no results are found [09:50] kamstrup: I think it would be simpler if it were not (and it would match the behaviour of the applications place) [09:50] Kaleo: agreed [09:51] Kaleo: i'll open a bug and fix it for this Thursday [09:51] kamstrup: awesome [09:52] kamstrup: that will remove 20 lines of my code :) [09:52] kamstrup: 12 lines of which are a comment to explain the purpose of the code :) [09:54] Kaleo: lol - anything for you man :-) [10:14] didrocks: about bug 734740 [10:14] Launchpad bug 734740 in unity "Dash: Alt-F2 gives no indication it is any different to using Super" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734740 [10:14] didrocks: you wrote In the next release, the "Search command" entry will be really small [10:14] (few pixels), with only the search entry, I think that will address it. [10:15] didrocks: does it mean you are changing the string? or the size of the font? or both? [10:15] Kaleo: just the size of the dash [10:15] didrocks: hmm, are you going to show only the search box? [10:16] Kaleo: by default yes, we get that for free from neil's work (the dash adapt its size to its content now) [10:17] didrocks: but the the "command" place entry has none empty content (commands history) [10:17] Kaleo: we don't show commands history before the first search [10:17] didrocks: is that a change in the applications place that has not been released? [10:17] Kaleo: which one? [10:18] didrocks: cause I observe a different behaviour here [10:18] "we don't show commands history before the first search" this one [10:18] no, it's already the case [10:18] I see that too [10:18] it's like the model doesn't get updated until you send a search through [10:18] njpatel: you mean you concur with me or didrocks? [10:18] njpatel: well, it's done on purpose in fact, to be able to get just a "run comman" first [10:19] (and so, the be different from the "dash" as it seems people feels it's similar) [10:22] didrocks: note that last time I checked the design, the dash's home screen is minimized by default [10:22] didrocks: meaning if you click the Ubuntu button you only get a search box [10:23] Kaleo: you still have "shortcuts" entry, isn't it? [10:23] didrocks: yes, there is a shortcuts button, that clicked will unfold the dahs [10:23] dash [10:24] so alt + F2 doesn't have it. Then, I think people triggering this knows that they will do something different from the dash [10:24] but well, if it's still not obvious by next release, I'll reask some design input then [10:25] Kaleo, with you [10:25] njpatel: ok [10:25] didrocks: so to be clear, alt+f2 shows an unfolded dash today [10:25] did you try on a fresh startup? [10:26] didrocks: no [10:26] seems like you restarted with an old model [10:26] Kaleo, I fixed that over the weekend in Unity [10:26] didrocks: lets kill the daemon [10:26] it shows up small now [10:26] (still need to merge propose) [10:26] Kaleo: kill the daemon and then, restart unity [10:26] njpatel: for the home screen you mean? or in general when there is no search result? [10:27] both [10:27] hold up [10:27] Kaleo, actually [10:27] Kaleo, home screen, global search and alt+f2, if your in a an actual place, then I leave it expanded [10:28] http://people.canonical.com/~njpatel/dash-resizing.ogv [10:29] njpatel: hence my point, that will "somewhat" fix bug #734740, what do you think? [10:29] Launchpad bug 734740 in unity "Dash: Alt-F2 gives no indication it is any different to using Super" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734740 [10:29] didrocks, oh, yeah, it feels different [10:29] didrocks, also we need to fix the text so it says "Run a command", right? [10:31] njpatel: the behaviour sounds good [10:31] njpatel: now how did you achieve that? did you special case hard code the alt+f2 case? [10:32] njpatel: well, do you think it's needed? [10:32] I have no strong opinion [10:32] njpatel: I can do it if needed (do you prefer subclassing the Dash class?) [10:33] or adding a new entry in the .place file to override the command title? [10:33] Kaleo, yeah I check the ID of the entry for altf2. It sucks but it is a special case [10:33] njpatel: I would think a key in the service file could hint on the default behaviour [10:34] didrocks: how do we manage translations of the search box instructions? [10:35] Kaleo: Basically, I think it's wrong, we have "Search" and "Place name" IIRC [10:35] should be only one already [10:35] apinheiro, rodrigo_: hey guys, quick check, what are the places / nux / whatever things still blocking you on your on bugs? [10:35] didrocks: right [10:35] apinheiro, rodrigo_: as it's monday, i want to make sure that those get resolved early in the week to let you continue fixing things [10:35] didrocks: what about we remove the "Search" altogether that is hardcoded in the UI [10:36] didrocks: and then we let the place entry decide [10:36] didrocks: probably from the .place file [10:36] njpatel: thought? ^^ [10:36] would make sense to me [10:36] can handle that if needed [10:36] dbarth, Im more focused on those two bugs we were talking about, so in relation to the places I can't say if there is any blocker [10:36] I hope that not [10:37] although I was testing the dash keyboard navigation these days [10:37] and it seems better [10:37] didrocks: I think it's the only way to make proper l10n possible [10:37] didrocks, yeah, that's fine, tell kamstrup :) [10:37] :) [10:38] kamstrup: I'll do a small change in places and unity so that the .places file decide what to put in the "search" entry [10:38] will help l10n and altF2 [10:39] didrocks: we need a bug report and an update to the spec, do you want me to create it? [10:39] (the bug report) [10:39] didrocks, njpatel, Kaleo: +1 [10:40] Kaleo: i'm updating bug #733897 for that right now :) [10:40] Launchpad bug 733897 in unity (Ubuntu) "alt-f2 doesn't bring up an "Execute command" box" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/733897 [10:40] Kaleo: SearchField= is that ok for you? [10:40] Kaleo: nice :) [10:40] kamstrup: nice :) [10:40] didrocks: SearchInstructions? [10:41] didrocks: I have no strong opinion [10:41] "Instructions" :/ don't really like this [10:41] kamstrup, SearchHint? [10:41] ok, Hint ;) [10:41] I win [10:41] hint is good [10:41] by proxy of being awesome [10:41] njpatel: ahah :) [10:41] it happens, you lot will get there in due course [10:41] * njpatel goes back to being awesome [10:41] * didrocks hugs njpatel [10:41] njpatel: yeah do that, and fix bugs too :) [10:42] * njpatel gives back an awesome hug to didrocks [10:42] Kaleo, bug fixing is awesome, so I shall do that [10:42] but first, I need to do tech lead duties and round up the troops [10:49] dbarth, not blocked on anything, just fixing my bugs now [10:51] didrocks: task assigned to nerochiaro who will take care of it this week [10:52] Kaleo: ok, great! :) [10:52] I already committed and pushed the places [10:52] will do the unity part later [10:54] didrocks: thanks [10:54] didrocks: don't forget the spec :) [10:55] Kaleo: yeah, on it ;) [11:03] mpt, here [11:03] yo [11:04] mpt, yeah its a funny one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/733285 [11:04] Ubuntu bug 733285 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Focus indication on playback controls is misleading" [Undecided,Incomplete] [11:27] hey all === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [13:04] http://i.imgur.com/EwBjU.png > this could be a bug ? what title can i suggeste in launchpad? [13:05] njpatel, hi [13:05] hi humphreybc [13:05] seems like the invisible window bug you're getting right ? [13:05] humphreybc, hey [13:06] thanks for joining [13:06] smspillaz: You got a link to the bug report? [13:06] I'll read the description and see if it matches [13:06] bug 709461 [13:06] Launchpad bug 709461 in unity "Application windows can sometimes fail to display and will mask regions of the screen" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709461 [13:06] the imfamous one which I spent 14 hours straight trying to fix :/ [13:06] * smspillaz haet x11 [13:07] If you have a window or a method that seems to particularly tickle it, that would be great to find out [13:07] since I cannot reproduce it at all [13:07] smspillaz: yeah, that seems to be it [13:07] ok, please comment on the bug report anything you know about it [13:07] also [13:07] xwininfo -root -tree [13:07] most often the "window will open in the top left corner with top deco buried" is apport [13:07] xwininfo on the "dead area" [13:07] smspillaz: how did that become an issue in Unity when it wasn't one before? [13:07] and wmctrl -l [13:07] kklimonda: it's a race condition in X11 [13:08] and usually it's apport telling me compiz has crashed [13:08] basically it happens when windows appear and disappear before we get time to catch them [13:08] humphreybc: ok, interesting [13:08] smspillaz: so that's the reason why I couldn't interact with some parts of Unity, because the invisible window was stealing focus? [13:08] smspillaz, it's flipping apport's window isn't it? [13:08] smspillaz: btw, I have two bugs I don't know how to report, or rather how to describe for the summary [13:08] And hence why indicators worked, because they are window independent [13:09] smspillaz: http://pastebin.com/0sSVP2ZJ - it also makes it hard to look for duplicate s:) [13:09] humphreybc: no, rather the window doesn't get managed since what is happening is that the window gets unmanaged compiz side (eg compiz doesn't know about it) and then shoved into the top right hand corner [13:09] it's an incredibly annoying race condition [13:10] heh [13:10] njpatel: I take it you're running Unity? [13:10] up to date [13:10] yep [13:10] Alt + F2 [13:10] type "ubuntu-bug" [13:10] hit enter. === ogra is now known as Guest42034 [13:10] Does CCSM launch? [13:10] humphreybc, no, but it's because i fixed that bug yesterday :) === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [13:11] humphreybc: note it all down in the bug report === Guest42034 is now known as ogra_ [13:11] humphreybc: I haven't got time to look at it *right now* but I'll get on to it ASAP (I'm also a full time student and only work part time) [13:11] smspillaz: Okay, I'll do some more playing around tomorrow to see if I can actually figure out what's causing it to happen [13:11] coolio, thanks heaps [13:11] smspillaz, apport? [13:11] I will buy you cookies at UDS [13:11] njpatel: apport doesn't do it for me [13:12] hah, that's if I get sponsored :) [13:12] smspillaz, alrighty [13:12] how can I force compiz to crash? [13:13] humphreybc: well, you won't see invisible windows in that case ;-) [13:13] enable a plugin and unity plugin will crash compiz [13:13] humphreybc: kill -SEGV will do it though [13:13] killall -SIGSEGV compiz [13:14] So the three times I've had this happen so far: 1) Talking on IRC with Joey, 2) Trying to launch that video I recorded on my phone in Totem by double clicking it in Nautilus and 3) Taking a screenshot by pressing the PRTSC key then waiting while nothing happened for 10 minutes, then screenshot window appears randomly [13:14] what were you doing immediately before you did any of those ? [13:14] fun [13:15] Sorry, crashed compiz [13:15] screen+irssi == win :) [13:15] Umm.. Not sure. Just on Twitter. I'll try to reproduce tomorrow [13:15] thanks [13:16] Any idea why Chromium tabs weren't recognizing mouse clicks? [13:16] is that related? [13:16] humphreybc, what graphics card do you have? [13:16] (I take it you watched my mayday video) [13:16] humphreybc: same issue [13:16] njpatel: on this laptop, an ATI Radeon HD2600 [13:16] hmm, interesting [13:16] humphreybc, and your not getting good crash reports? [13:16] so it's... r600 I think? Running whatever drivers Natty comes with by default. [13:16] radeon [13:16] yup [13:17] humphreybc: basically the invisible window is actually stacked on top X side [13:17] humphreybc: oh, when it happens [13:17] I absolutely need you to send me three things [13:17] 1) xwininfo -root -tree [13:17] * humphreybc gets out a postit [13:17] 2) xwininfo *click on the "dead area"* [13:17] 3) wmctrl -l [13:17] ok [13:17] if I know that, then I'll know where to start looking [13:18] cool [13:19] oh you guys know Nautilus crashes all the time, right? [13:20] Nope, dude wtf is going on with your system? :) [13:20] humphreybc, are all these crashes producing reports? [13:20] seriously, every time I open a nautilus window and close it, it crashes and reloads [13:20] and you have crash reports? [13:20] njpatel: where should I be looking for reports? It's been... at least 12 months since I ever actually did any bug reporting. [13:21] humphreybc, you should be getting the window that says something crashed and asks if you want to report it [13:21] Apport isn't doing much, no [13:21] nope, that's not happening at all [13:21] didrocks, how can we make sure apport is working? [13:21] the Nautilus thing is super reproducible though :) [13:21] if we could get traces for the unity crashes then we'd have a chance of fixing [13:21] njpatel, kill -SSEGV 1 [13:22] * tedg is sad no one logged out [13:22] hehe [13:22] no one trusts you [13:22] lol === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:23] humphreybc, ls /var/crash [13:24] njpatel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/580123/ [13:25] alrighty so you have some crash report [13:25] reports* [13:25] seb128, what can we do with /var/crash reports to make them useful again? I've forgotten :/ [13:25] njpatel, I think you can upload them to LP. [13:25] yay! I just launched Software Center and got an Apport window :) [13:25] njpatel, Worse case you can turn them into backtraces. [13:26] yeah sw center is a bit crashy right now [13:26] * humphreybc sends the complete report at a whopping 34mb [13:26] tedg, turning them into backtraces would be nice [13:26] njpatel, pastebin being slow... just a sec. [13:26] njpatel: seems that apport doesn't popup anymore, got that as well… [13:27] great [13:27] njpatel, humphreybc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/580124/ [13:27] njpatel: basically, rm /var/crash/*compiz* [13:27] make it crash [13:27] then, apport-bug -c /var/crach/*compiz* [13:27] humphreybc, ^ [13:27] okay, two secs [13:27] so that we are sure the crash is the one you just get :) [13:27] awesome, thank you [13:27] humphreybc, thanks for debugging this with us, btw, much appreciated :) [13:28] njpatel: no probs [13:28] I find being able to do the backtrace more useful in some cases as the retracers only like the built from archive current versions. Any dev versions and they won't give a backtrace :( [13:28] this is the SC bug I just reported using Apport [13:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/734830 [13:28] Error: Bug 734830 is private [13:29] also, screencast of Nautilus crashing: http://www.twitvid.com/AFMZW [13:29] njpatel: tedg: didrocks: so what am I doing with that pastebin text? [13:29] or am I following didrocks' instructions [13:30] humphreybc, follow didrocks's instructions please, as that'll get you a bug [13:30] so we can track [13:30] kk [13:30] ted's instructiions are useful for me :) [13:30] yeah, it will be retraced, and such :) [13:30] we get extra candies as well of course :) [13:31] so, when you say "make it crash" i'm just... doing what? [13:31] I'm waiting for something bad to happen. [13:31] yeah [13:31] I'll try it on Nautilus because that's happening each time [13:32] look at it ominously [13:32] I swear earlier in the cycle I sneezed and compiz crashed [13:32] DBO, ! [13:32] heh [13:32] of course, it will only when you try to make it crashes you won't be able, typical :) [13:32] "The problem cannot be reported: The program crashed on an assertion failure, but the message could not be retrieved. Apport does not support reporting these crashes." [13:32] wtf [13:33] njpatel, i blame you [13:33] njpatel: I didn't see a testcase with 1. starts unity 2. sneeze 3. *crash* [13:33] :) [13:33] humphreybc, in a terminal do this: killall --9 nautilus; nautilus and then crash it and see what it prints out [13:33] DBO, double paint? :) [13:33] * njpatel wants to use all his monitors [13:34] njpatel, almost, because of the way nux does clipping the original plan got more complicated [13:34] so now I have to do the math manually :P [13:34] oh noes, does your head hurt? [13:34] I get [13:34] humphreybc, the stacktrace is in the .crash though, you can open the file with an editor and search for it or unpack the .crash [13:35] DBO, seriously though, sweet, can't wait for that [13:35] (nautilus:12009): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_bus_unwatch_name: assertion `watcher_id > 0' failed [13:35] criticals shouldn't crash [13:35] just after I launch nautilus in a terminal [13:35] njpatel, on the upside, we are enabling other major optimizations for intel multi-monitor with nux for free this way [13:35] so killall --9 nautilus; nautilus [13:35] G_DEBUG=fatal_criticals [13:36] DBO, most excellent :) [13:36] njpatel: Nice work on Unity multi monitor support, btw. It actually worked for me. [13:36] humphreybc, and if you run it from a terminal like mentioned and then make it crash, does it print anything out [13:36] (I can count the things that work in Unity for me on one hand) [13:37] humphreybc, sweet, jay did the hard part I did the math :) DBO is going to fix the painting and I'm going to add better panel support in multi-monitor....hopefully all this week ;) [13:37] njpatel: let me screencast so you can see exactly what's happening :) [13:37] humphreybc, coolio [13:37] the warning is bug #724285 [13:37] Launchpad bug 724285 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "assertion failure: g_bus_unwatch_name: assertion `watcher_id > 0' failed" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724285 [13:37] but having a stacktrace would be useful on that bug [13:38] oh, I get the nautilus crash too [13:38] oh, and then u-w-d crashes [13:38] what joy [13:38] great, that worked just how I wanted. Now to upload the video [13:41] didrocks: alright! new person over the weekend! [13:42] jcastro: yeah, I saw that, it's excellent :) [13:42] jcastro: where'd s/he come from? [13:42] no clue yet [13:42] didrocks: whom shall I poke for a review? [13:42] http://www.twitvid.com/VZSNN [13:43] jcastro: I'll deal with some reviews tomorrow personnally, not sure of gord and njpatel if they get some time before [13:44] * humphreybc wonders what else he can crash in natty [13:44] gord: njpatel: that would be hot if we could get at least the new one out of the way [13:44] btw, njpatel, you never replied to my tweet about Cheese being a default app ;) [13:44] humphreybc, yep, get the same thing, seems like a normal alpha nautilus bug [13:44] humphreybc, didn't I? I'd love it to :) [13:44] I think we should bully Rick and Jason into it. [13:45] if nothing else the icon on the launcher looks wonderful [13:45] we did it for UNR I believe [13:45] Also, I've never, ever had a problem with it. It even recognized a Microsoft Lifecam! [13:45] Yeah, I remember that [13:45] good afternoon [13:45] it's like 3.5mb though [13:45] any way to resize icon on unity-2d launcher please? [13:45] so worth it, I reckon [13:46] humphreybc: raise that at UDS :) [13:46] didrocks: Can do [13:47] njpatel: What's your startup speed like for Unity? [13:47] njpatel, there is no normal alpha nautilus bug can you get us a stacktrace? [13:47] njpatel, nautilus didn't change this cycle since the GNOME version stay the same as in 10.10 [13:47] I find the initial login quite slow (compared to "Ubuntu Classic Desktop") [13:48] humphreybc, very fast ,but my system is very fast, we'll be doing performance stuff nearer beta time [13:48] lightening fast on my t400 [13:48] seb128_, I can get a trace yeah [13:48] Heh, bazaar is using a bug tag named "ignore" [13:48] njpatel, thanks [13:48] (they mean the ignore command, but it's still funny) [13:48] seb128_, but not right now :) [13:48] tedg, i bet you have a few with that tag :) [13:48] njpatel, ... [13:49] * humphreybc thinks all Canonical developers should be forced to test on old hardware [13:49] kenvandine, Actually, that's how I saw it! :) [13:49] humphreybc, i have a old slow netbook i test with, but didn't notice any slowness at login time last i tried [13:49] seb128_, you want it now? [13:49] :) [13:49] humphreybc: don't worry, I bear that part :) [13:49] didrocks: haha [13:49] but unity seemed pretty good on it otherwise [13:49] humphreybc, I have old hardware too, hence I said that it needs work :) [13:50] Unity 2D is blazin' [13:50] njpatel, well I'm curious to know what's going on, several people mentioned random nautilus crash that go away with rebuilds recently [13:50] intel classmate, 1st gen ... i945 video [13:50] Unity 2D even has a lovely wallpaper fade when you log in [13:50] njpatel, but no need to be now no [13:50] seb128_, yep, will do as soon as i have a spare minute [13:50] njpatel, thanks [13:50] it's likely ted's fault again [13:51] right, off to bed now. Bloody near 3am. [13:51] humphreybc, that's good, that's what it's for :) Though I'm sure we'll be better on i945 by release [13:51] Anyone want to come work at Ohso? I'm interviewing people for jobs tomorrow ;) [13:51] Is it all web stuff? If so then no ;) [13:52] njpatel: Yeah, mainly web stuff [13:52] integration with Launchpad and Ask Ubuntu though [13:52] fun times :) === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [13:52] nice [13:52] anyway, I'll jump back in here tomorrow and see how we go with this invisible window [13:53] coolio, thanks again! [13:53] have a swell day, chaps [13:53] ciao humphreybc :) [13:55] seb128, http://paste.ubuntu.com/580133/ [13:57] njpatel, can you put your stracktace with a comment saying what you do to get the crash on bug #724285 [13:57] Launchpad bug 724285 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "assertion failure: g_bus_unwatch_name: assertion `watcher_id > 0' failed" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724285 [13:57] njpatel, thanks === bcurtiswx is now known as Guest95906 === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [14:22] are the indicators freaking out for anyone else? [14:22] my app menu keeps showing back in the window and the going away [14:32] njpatel: ! if you wanna help me quench a long smoldering fire you review https://code.launchpad.net/~kamstrup/unity/localapps/+merge/53248 for me :-) [14:32] njpatel: needs wine and u-p-a trunk if you want to test it... [14:34] kamstrup, alrighty, I'm just testing something major for DBO right now so give me a bit of time :) [14:34] njpatel: ok, just keep it on the radar for Thursday, other than that, there's no rush [14:35] sweet,will do === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === gaurav__ is now known as Guest13262 === Guest13262 is now known as GauravButola [14:58] tedg, ping [14:59] Howdy aruiz [15:01] tedg, for some reason, the menubar doesn't notice when I unregister and register back [15:01]