=== fisted_ is now known as fisted [00:45] Hello, I have a series of problems I could use some help with, is anyone here willing and able? [00:45] These are probably really newby questions. [00:45] !ask | Spudd [00:45] Spudd: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [00:47] Well, for starters, while trying to fix one problem, I edited the visudo file thingy. Since it didn't fix my problem, I went to go change it back, but whenever I try to access it now, I get an error saying: "visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied" [00:48] The problem I was trying to fix, was that whenever I use a su or sudo command, I can't type anything at the password prompt, which I also need to fix. [00:48] Say, what kinds of things can I do to make KDE useful on a tablet PC? === root is now known as Guest94566 === Guest94566 is now known as Rohitabho [00:49] And these are both just little problems that popped up while I've been trying to get my wireless card to work on my laptop in Kubuntu, so after those are out of the way, if I could get some help with that, I'd sincerely appreciate it. [00:51] Spudd: passwords entered at commandline(such as with sudo or su) dont echo the keypresses, though you are actually typing [00:52] Spudd: and visudo needs root premissions (ie sudo visudo :P) [00:53] Ah, okay. [00:53] That works. [00:53] hmm, things seem really hard to "click" with the tablet... they seem to drag, not click. [00:53] Thanks. [00:54] Spudd: be carefull with the visudo... messing that config file up can lose you root access (though you can get it back it involves chrooting from a live cd) [00:54] Spudd: for what reason do you need to edit it? [00:55] DanaG: sounds like you arnt releaseing quick enough... i think you can change the delay before it interprets a drag in system settings [00:55] I was trying to make it so I didn't need a password to use sudo commands, since I didn't know that it just wasn't echoing keystrokes. [00:56] Seems like I can access it now, though. [00:56] Spudd: BAD idea... very very very BAD idea... there is a passsword needed for sudo for a reason [00:56] To me, it seems like I can't set the drag pixels threshold high enough. [01:00] Okay, so I've used ndiswrapper to installa driver for my USB wireless adapter. [01:00] However, when I go to add my network connection, the wireless tab is grayed out. [01:01] Spudd: what wireless card? [01:01] (lspci | grep -i network should tell you) [01:01] I have an Atheros AR5001 card, and a Linksys WUSB100 USB adapter. I have drivers installed for both. [01:02] hmm, didnt think you needed ndiswrapper for them, [01:04] Since they're windows drivers. [01:04] I couldn't find any other driver that worked. Apperently there are some Linux native drivers which I looked into, but I couldn't even figure out how to download them. [01:04] atheros should have linux drivers, which should work better then the windows ones :p [01:05] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros [01:05] Spudd: what version of kubuntu? [01:05] 10.10 [01:06] So, where's this fabled tablet KDE? Not in 4.6? [01:20] hello [01:21] :) [01:21] Oi gente XD === Senix is now known as Senix|away === Senix|away is now known as Senix === promulo is now known as obama === obama is now known as promulo === FireCrotch is now known as nickmoeck [03:22] hihi [03:22] its been like years since ive been in an irc [03:24] hi [03:24] i cant seem to get my ubuntu back up [03:24] because im unfamiliar with how grub works [03:25] i just got a new computer, decided to keep the windows partition that was alread yon there [03:25] so i took my old multiboot system, with grub that was set up automatically, and cp'd my linux partition over to the new multiboot computer [03:25] but obviously everything is super screwed up [03:26] because even after restoring grub, the grub menu isnt configured [03:26] and i dont know how to configure it [03:27] Bug: Keyboard response time is to slow when i use Bloq Mayus, i getting this : EXample, THis is another Example. This happens since i starting using Ubuntu (8.04) and also occurs with KDE, Gnome, XFCE, with different machines, keyboards, etc. [03:29] !grub2 | mishugana [03:29] mishugana: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [03:31] Current Location: MExico, keyboard Layout: LATAM (Latinoamerica) [03:31] thanks for this... i was able to restore grub fine but i think my issue was i was looking at menu.lst and not the grub2 equivelent [03:32] instead of update-grub i should have been typing update-grub2 apparently, ill try that now [03:34] mishugana: i think they are both the same [03:42] sorry lost wifi there [03:42] still cant seem to fix things actually [03:43] update-grub says cannot find device for / [03:50] Bug: Keyboard response time is to slow when i use Bloq Mayus, i getting this : EXample, THis is another Example. This happens since i starting using Ubuntu (8.04) and also occurs with KDE, Gnome, XFCE, with different machines, keyboards, etc. [03:50] Current Location: MExico, keyboard Layout: LATAM (Latinoamerica) === don is now known as Scunizi [03:53] I have a usb headset. I've changed all the defaults and master channel to the usb device.. output works fine.. but nothing from the mic. How do I fix this? [03:54] How do I upgrade to kde 4.6 on ubuntu 10.04? [04:04] Firefishe: kde 4.6 isnt supported on lucid [04:05] please don't forget about me [04:05] :( [04:14] james: Might I ask why not? Also, has some intrepid ppa'er compiled it, anyway? [04:15] Firefishe: because lucid is old... and ubuntu never supports new major versions after a release... [04:16] lucid isn't that old [04:16] at least, not by my reckoning [04:16] Firefishe: its not the latest version... its old [04:16] ah well....on the kde compile page. [04:16] on to the... [04:16] Firefishe: and if you want the latest and greatest versions then you need to upgrade [04:17] Maybe I'll ppa it. I've never done a ppa before, so perhaps it's time. [04:17] ^^ or that, although I do not know what problems you will encounter [04:18] james147: My laptop is running, concurrently, gnome 2.30.2 (which I plan on keeping, what with the Unity problems), kde 4.5.6 (which is humming along just fine, but which I'd like to upgrade to the next stage), and xfce (I forget what version.) I don't see how 4.6 can be so much different from 4.5.6. [04:19] Firefishe: for one it no longer requires hal [04:19] thank the gods [04:19] ;) [04:19] ^^ which is quite a large change [04:20] and does hal not exist in 10.10 and above (ubuntu) [04:20] it does, just kde 4.6 dosent 'require' it [04:20] I see. [04:20] other things might [04:21] james147: Does 4.6 also handle networking differently than 4.5.x? I currently am using nm-applet (gnome-network-manager) across all desktops. [04:21] Firefishe: it still uses network-manager, but there is a widget to replace knetworkmanager which handles things slightly better [04:22] james147: again, thank ye gods! ;) [04:22] I see that kde no longer uses svn, but has switched--or appears to still be switching to--git. [04:23] yes, its slowly switching [04:24] :( [04:24] Bug: Keyboard response time is to slow when i use Bloq Mayus, i getting this : EXample, THis is another Example. This happens since i starting using Ubuntu (8.04) and also occurs with KDE, Gnome, XFCE, with different machines, keyboards, etc. [04:42] james147: Well, I think I'll hold off the compiling for now. So much to prepare, so little brain power at 11:41pm ;) hee [04:42] james147: I'll need a stack of doritos and mountain dew to do that project LOL. Well, thanks for the info, I do appreciate it. [04:43] oh man [04:43] nothing is working === Mayank1 is now known as Mayank [04:58] mishugana: You are here so the internet is working [04:58] yes [04:58] the internet is [04:58] but i cant get my system to boot [04:58] i mean [04:58] i cant get grub to reautoconfigure [04:59] *grub2 [04:59] im on the livecd [04:59] mishugana: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [04:59] sorry about the flooding. [05:07] mishugana: ok what have you tried? [05:07] !grub2 > mishugana [05:07] mishugana, please see my private message [05:24] ? oh ive tried grub-install, and restored grub. however the menu is the menu from my old computer, and not my new one, so the grub menu choices are screwed up since everything has changed (number of partitions and os's etc) [05:28] i've also looked over all of grub2s troubleshooting information.... the problem is im on a livecd and when i try to grub-mkconfig or update-grub, i get the error that cannot find a device for / [05:39] !netsplit [05:39] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit === weecol_ is now known as weecol [06:00] Hello everyone, id need some help dualbooting windows and kubuntu, the official guides dont seem to work as windows loads from grub, goes to windows logo (loading screen) and my pc restarts [06:03] Which Windows? [06:05] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099 did this and fixed it === wallyworld___ is now known as wallyworld [06:11] hey all, anyone here that can help me with my touchpad [06:12] been reading dorums forever, cannot seem to find issue [06:12] which is? [06:12] mishugana: Great :) [06:13] wanting it to be seen as a touchpad :) [06:13] want it to do things such as auto disable when USB is plugged in etc [06:13] does lshw or lspci See it? [06:14] hwinfo --mouse does [06:15] it shows 2 of them [06:15] #1 is my logitech usb mouse [06:15] #2 shows as "PS/2 Generic Mouse" [06:16] #2 should be the touchpad [06:18] Ant: which windows, 7 or xp? [06:25] whats up everyone [06:36] hi dustin [06:36] bvierra|l: looked in the touchpad area of system setting? [06:37] yea lots of ppl seem to have the issue [06:37] it sees Synaptics touchpad as a Generic PS/2 Mouse [06:43] what's up dustin? [06:47] hallo, i'm here to request help with an issue that i'm experiencing whilst attempting to install Kubuntu. For some reason, it does not pick up that I have another OS (MS Vista) installed as well, and thus does not give me the option to dual boot. I would like to know if there is any particular cause (probably me, but I would like to know), and what I can do about it. :) [06:50] anyone got any ideas? [06:52] okay here's the deal folks, i got this mudlib file in the home/folder and i need to run it through the terminal but i got no idea how to run a program from there anyone spare some time on this issue who is fluenant in linux? [06:56] User: You can add the entry to Grub [06:57] dustin: what are the instructions you got? [06:57] >implying i know what that means ;x [06:58] User: you can look up grub2 vista chainloader [06:58] basically i just burned the boot/install disk, stuck it in, booted from disk, and it didn't detect Vista, so i could either wipe my HD or i could create a partition, which i have no idea how to do [06:58] all i want to do is dual boot [06:58] the point of using Kubuntu is to be a RoR development environment, since it's awful in windows o_o [06:59] wait so you just want to know how to dualboot kubuntu? you have a regular vista already installed? [07:00] yes o.o [07:00] it didn't auto-detech vista, is the problem [07:01] what does that mean that it didnt autodetech vista? did you burn a livecd/installer and install kubuntu? and then take out the cd and reboot? [07:02] User: How do you know it didn't auto detect Vista? [07:03] i mean that from what i've seen, that if a different OS is already installed, that during the installation menu that an option to dual boot should be at the top of the options concerning space [07:03] have you installed yet? [07:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=snapshot17.png the top option here [07:04] and, i just have the CD, so no [07:04] dustin: where are you having problems? [07:04] i haven't installed, because my only two options were to erase the HD, or make a partition [07:05] you probably want to make a partition [07:05] User: can you screenshot what you are seeing and pastebin it? [07:05] User: You have a panel right? [07:05] daskreech the problem is i down't know how to load the stuff [07:05] :) [07:05] im very new to this [07:05] i have no idea how to ss outside of print-screen o_O [07:06] dustin: Which stuff? you put all the things into the directories? [07:06] for dualbooting, you ussually have two partitions, you can choose to boot into either one, one will be your original partition with vista on it, and one will be your new one with kubuntu [07:06] User: That's why I'm asking you if you have a panel? [07:06] i don't even know what a panel is [07:06] User: at the bottom right is a little yellow button? [07:06] i get the concept of a partition o_O [07:06] daskreech- i think so never loaded a mudlib before :( [07:06] click on it and you should get a black box with an option to add widgets [07:07] dustin: which step are you on? [07:07] before installing? [07:07] User: Si :) [07:07] daskreech 1 [07:07] wth? [07:07] O_O [07:07] User: hold on [07:07] kk [07:07] at the part where to delete old trys and start all over from scratch [07:07] User: ok let me get this straight. You put in the CD and it gave you an option to try Linux or Install and you chose install? [07:08] ja [07:08] do i have to try -> install, instead of install? [07:08] dustin: ok well make the directories they ask for and copy the source code there [07:08] User: Do you have enough RAM to do that? [07:09] all my RAM is under C, 931 GB, but 711 GB is free [07:09] hmm by source code do u mean this whole folder? [07:09] User: that's hard drive space. How much memory does your computer have [07:09] daskreech could i just send this to u so u could atleast view the contents to maybe give me a idea if its missing things or such? [07:09] Though with 1TB of space I don't think you have a problem [07:10] dustin: I guess but that doesn't really make much difference :) [07:10] oh, memory, 4GB [07:10] I still don't know what is the exact point you are having a problem [07:10] User: how are you here now? you rebooted back to Vista? [07:11] yes ofc, i wasn't going to delete everything to install Kubuntu o_O [07:11] i tried this a bit ago, ran into that problem, looked for a solution, couldn't find one, so a friend suggested i go get an IRC client and try here [07:11] hmm dont know where the send file button is [07:11] User: Ok select Try Kubuntu and then you will get a desktop [07:12] uh [07:12] click on the "start menu" and under applications -> internet choose Konversation and it will bring you back here [07:12] uh [07:12] well [07:12] i installed xchat client to be here >.> [07:13] User: that's ok :) [07:13] not sure if i could get here through mibbit or not [07:13] You can get here from the Live CD as well [07:13] all right [07:13] Just start the application Konversation [07:13] okay [07:13] brb lol [07:14] lol i got no idea how find the send file on this app [07:14] dustin: it's ok just keep it [07:14] where did you get the file from? [07:15] been so long i dont remember [07:15] maybe i should just do a fresh install [07:16] lemme try to find a new one i hope afk to look daskreech [07:17] dustin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LPMud might help [07:33] * Daskreech wonders if User got lost [07:44] *coughs* [07:45] i'm back o.o [07:47] i couldn't find the one thing that started with K, so i simply looked for an online IRC client :l [07:50] ugh???????? :/ [07:54] Userr: [07:54] ok [07:55] found one I guess? [07:55] Userr: press alt+F2 and type irc [08:00] sec [08:00] was afk lulz [08:01] yeah [08:01] i saw the Quassel thing first [08:01] it was pretty much incomprehensible though so yeah :p [08:02] Userr: ah ok :) [08:02] Right Forgot that would be on the cd [08:02] okay, now what >.>? [08:03] clock install [08:03] click [08:06] i did the language & preparation tabs, but when it got to the third one, it still only had the option of deleting everything, or partitioning [08:06] :l [08:09] Userr: on the panel you have a yellow button at the extreme right? [08:09] click it and click add widgets [08:09] then in the search type paste [08:11] sure, sec [08:12] okay [08:12] i think i have 'paste' now, when i went back to check it had a little blue check-mark by it === root is now known as Guest34528 [08:13] Userr: wait paste or pastbin? [08:13] pastebin? [08:13] paste [08:13] :l [08:13] Sorry you can remove that one if you like [08:13] O_O [08:14] Just drag the one that says pastebin to the desktop [08:14] pastebin to desktop [08:14] you'll get a new icon [08:14] k [08:14] sec [08:14] k, have the new icon [08:15] ok press printscreen [08:15] k? [08:15] Got a new window? [08:15] yes [08:16] 'snapshot1.png-KSnapshot' [08:16] Ok alt-tab to the install then bring up that window and click Take a new snapshot [08:16] then you can drag the snapshot right off that window onto the pastebin icon on the desktop [08:19] Let me know when that has happened [08:21] i saved the pic [08:21] now trying to drop it into pastebin [08:21] doesn't seem to be working :/ [08:21] Userr: You don't need to save it just drag it from the window [08:21] hmmm [08:21] i can put the pic online though [08:21] sec, will put it on imageshack [08:22] Userr: ok there is a wrench to the side when you hover over the pastebin? [08:22] yes [08:23] Click it [08:23] make sure the dropdown beside imagebin server has something in it [08:24] http://img687.imageshack.us/i/disksetupissue.png/ [08:24] then try drop the image on it [08:24] i think that works [08:24] :/ [08:25] ok [08:25] got it [08:25] I think :/ [08:25] oh wait [08:25] it's super blurry [08:25] wtf lol [08:25] Yeah [08:25] okay [08:25] what's up with that? [08:26] i dunno D: [08:26] Were you shaking the monitor ? :) [08:26] Does it look like that on the printscreen? [08:26] lol [08:27] let me see :/ [08:27] Alt-tab to the install press print screen and you should be able to just drag it off that window into the pastebin [08:27] okay will try that again [08:29] hi bigbrovar [08:30] trying to pastebin [08:30] will try some other online hosting if it doesn't work [08:30] and...it didn't work [08:31] screwed up again? [08:31] the pastebin widget [08:31] apparently the pic is clear [08:31] perhaps pastebin is just for text? >_> [08:32] Naw I just threw a pic there and it worked [08:32] different provider perhaps? [08:32] o.o? [08:35] http://tinypic.com/r/e8l3c8/7 [08:38] Userr: Ok yeah that's messed up [08:38] Userr: can you open Dolphon [08:38] Dolphin [08:39] On the left can you tell me if you see a hard drive at the bottom of the list? [08:39] Under Trash [08:40] sec :/ [08:41] yes [08:41] 931.5 GiB Hard-Drive [08:42] Can you click on it? [08:42] mhmm [08:42] shows the files in C as well [08:42] Seee if it has Folders and stuff and stuff [08:42] it does [08:42] :-/ [08:42] That's not good [08:42] =S? [08:43] unitylogger: do you have any idea how Ubuqity does hard drive detection? [08:43] Daskreech: the most horrible way I could imagine [08:44] Userr: The installer is supposed to know there is something on the drive [08:44] pyth0rn software always does it that way and that way only [08:44] unitylogger: Userr has Vista installed and for some reason would like to keep it :) [08:44] Daskreech: at the lowest level however it will try to read the partition table per disk :) [08:44] blimey [08:44] I am no shrink :P [08:44] The installer is seeing a blank HDD though [08:45] Dolphin sees Vista [08:45] most likely the partition table is in an incosistent state [08:45] unitylogger: I've decided to leave Userr with that delusion and apply regular sessions of KDE :) [08:46] unitylogger: Ah hmm right so Get Windows to FixIt ? [08:46] Userr: Following any of this so far? [08:46] you can do that with any embedded linux mostly :P [08:46] but I had no coffee yet [08:46] so lord google will know best [08:47] x.x [08:47] What man! Get thee to a Columbian! [08:47] not really o.o [08:47] main reason i'm installing kubuntu [08:47] is to be a Ruby/Ruby on Rails development environment [08:48] since pretty much every Ruby/RoR developer is either Mac or Linux [08:48] so if I use windows, there's no support and things are outdated [08:48] Userr: near as my 1/4 awake friend here can guess (I agree though) is that the drive may have some small inconsistency [08:48] o.o [08:48] If you can scandisk it in Windows then it should be able to fix it [08:48] ? [08:49] if it does then Hoorah! all things are beautiful [08:49] X_X [08:50] Userr: :) what are you worried about? [08:50] scandisk it in windows? >_> [08:50] Right [08:50] scandisk might not see the issue though [08:50] unitylogger: What would? [08:50] I'd use cfdisk, that usually spits out very useful errors [08:51] That's linuxy [08:51] well yeah [08:51] he got an install cd running, no? :P [08:51] i'm a noob >.> [08:51] yes [08:52] Im runnin kubuntu 10.10 on an acer r3610 connected to my tv for user as a media pc. [08:52] Daskreech: tell him how to switch to a tty and back again then :P [08:52] unitylogger: would you be able to help while you coffeenate? [08:52] Display is out of range on the boards at max resolution [08:52] *caffinate :p [08:52] can't figure out any other way to shrink it [08:52] unitylogger: I can do that :) [08:52] or reboot into the live modus and fire up konsole [08:52] unitylogger: he's in live mode now [08:52] yep yep [08:52] Assuming that Userr is a he [08:52] ah, splendid then :) [08:53] i'm a she [08:53] but it's okay [08:53] Userr: thought that might be the case [08:53] what gives me away? the usage of emoticons? ;d [08:53] No :) [08:53] >_> [08:53] I use about as much as you [08:54] Though if you had started doing Bunny ones maybe [08:54] LOL [08:54] oi [08:54] I do bunny ones [08:54] at times [08:54] sorry unitylogger Iknow [08:54] and they are pink too [08:54] (>^_^)> [08:54] wow, get a date lol [08:54] * unitylogger activates the coffee robot [08:54] <(^_^<) [08:54] todulchaos: you tried systemsettings I presume? [08:55] there is a display settings thing in there [08:55] systemssettingss? yeah where you can change the resolution [08:55] o.o [08:55] Userr: ok can you open a Konsole [08:55] todulchaos: and that does not work? [08:55] im at max resolution. I need to be able to litterally resize it somehow [08:55] Userr: pretty easy press alt+F2 [08:55] then type konsole [08:55] You'll get a black window [08:55]