[00:45] <Spudd> Hello, I have a series of problems I could use some help with, is anyone here willing and able?
[00:45] <Spudd> These are probably really newby questions.
[00:45] <james147> !ask | Spudd
[00:47] <Spudd> Well, for starters, while trying to fix one problem, I edited the visudo file thingy. Since it didn't fix my problem, I went to go change it back, but whenever I try to access it now, I get an error saying: "visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied"
[00:48] <Spudd> The problem I was trying to fix, was that whenever I use a su or sudo command, I can't type anything at the password prompt, which I also need to fix.
[00:48] <DanaG> Say, what kinds of things can I do to make KDE useful on a tablet PC?
[00:49] <Spudd> And these are both just little problems that popped up while I've been trying to get my wireless card to work on my laptop in Kubuntu, so after those are out of the way, if I could get some help with that, I'd sincerely appreciate it.
[00:51] <james147> Spudd: passwords entered at commandline(such as with sudo or su) dont echo the keypresses, though you are actually typing
[00:52] <james147> Spudd: and visudo needs root premissions (ie sudo visudo    :P)
[00:53] <Spudd> Ah, okay.
[00:53] <Spudd> That works.
[00:53] <DanaG> hmm, things seem really hard to "click" with the tablet... they seem to drag, not click.
[00:53] <Spudd> Thanks.
[00:54] <james147> Spudd: be carefull with the visudo... messing that config file up can lose you root access (though you can get it back it involves chrooting from a live cd)
[00:54] <james147> Spudd: for what reason do you need to edit it?
[00:55] <james147> DanaG: sounds like you arnt releaseing quick enough... i think you can change the delay before it interprets a drag in system settings
[00:55] <Spudd> I was trying to make it so I didn't need a password to use sudo commands, since I didn't know that it just wasn't echoing keystrokes.
[00:56] <Spudd> Seems like I can access it now, though.
[00:56] <james147> Spudd: BAD idea... very very very BAD idea... there is a passsword needed for sudo for a reason
[00:56] <DanaG> To me, it seems like I can't set the drag pixels threshold high enough.
[01:00] <Spudd> Okay, so I've used ndiswrapper to installa driver for my USB wireless adapter.
[01:00] <Spudd> However, when I go to add my network connection, the wireless tab is grayed out.
[01:01] <james147> Spudd: what wireless card?
[01:01] <james147> (lspci | grep -i network    should tell you)
[01:01] <Spudd> I have an Atheros AR5001 card, and a Linksys WUSB100 USB adapter. I have drivers installed for both.
[01:02] <james147> hmm, didnt think you needed ndiswrapper for them,
[01:04] <Spudd> Since they're windows drivers.
[01:04] <Spudd> I couldn't find any other driver that worked. Apperently there are some Linux native drivers which I looked into, but I couldn't even figure out how to download them.
[01:04] <james147> atheros should have linux drivers, which should work better then the windows ones :p
[01:05] <james147> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[01:05] <james147> Spudd: what version of kubuntu?
[01:05] <Spudd> 10.10
[01:06] <DanaG> So, where's this fabled tablet KDE?  Not in 4.6?
[01:20] <chaintech> hello
[01:21] <chaintech> :)
[01:21] <chaintech> Oi gente XD
[03:22] <mishugana> hihi
[03:22] <mishugana> its been like years since ive been in an irc
[03:24] <jetpack> hi
[03:24] <mishugana> i cant seem to get my ubuntu back up
[03:24] <mishugana> because im unfamiliar with how grub works
[03:25] <mishugana> i just got a new computer, decided to keep the windows partition that was alread yon there
[03:25] <mishugana> so i took my old multiboot system, with grub that was set up automatically, and cp'd my linux partition over to the new multiboot computer
[03:25] <mishugana> but obviously everything is super screwed up
[03:26] <mishugana> because even after restoring grub, the grub menu isnt configured
[03:26] <mishugana> and i dont know how to configure it
[03:27] <jetpack> Bug: Keyboard response time is to slow when i use Bloq Mayus, i getting this : EXample,  THis is another Example. This happens since i starting using Ubuntu (8.04) and also occurs with KDE, Gnome, XFCE, with different machines, keyboards, etc.
[03:29] <james147> !grub2 | mishugana
[03:31] <jetpack> Current Location: MExico, keyboard Layout: LATAM (Latinoamerica)
[03:31] <mishugana> thanks for this... i was able to restore grub fine but i think my issue was i was looking at menu.lst and not the grub2 equivelent
[03:32] <mishugana> instead of update-grub i should have been typing update-grub2 apparently, ill try that now
[03:34] <james147> mishugana: i think they are both the same
[03:42] <mishugana> sorry lost wifi there
[03:42] <mishugana> still cant seem to fix things actually
[03:43] <mishugana> update-grub says cannot find device for /
[03:50] <jetpack> Bug: Keyboard response time is to slow when i use Bloq Mayus, i getting this : EXample,  THis is another Example. This happens since i starting using Ubuntu (8.04) and also occurs with KDE, Gnome, XFCE, with different machines, keyboards, etc.
[03:50] <jetpack> Current Location: MExico, keyboard Layout: LATAM (Latinoamerica)
[03:53] <Scunizi> I have a usb headset.  I've changed all the defaults and master channel to the usb device.. output works fine.. but nothing from the mic. How do I fix this?
[03:54] <Firefishe> How do I upgrade to kde 4.6 on ubuntu 10.04?
[04:04] <james147> Firefishe: kde 4.6 isnt supported on lucid
[04:05] <jetpack> please don't forget about me
[04:05] <jetpack> :(
[04:14] <Firefishe> james:  Might I ask why not?  Also, has some intrepid ppa'er compiled it, anyway?
[04:15] <james147> Firefishe: because lucid is old... and ubuntu never supports new major versions after a release...
[04:16] <Firefishe> lucid isn't that old
[04:16] <Firefishe> at least, not by my reckoning
[04:16] <james147> Firefishe: its not the latest version... its old
[04:16] <Firefishe> ah well....on the kde compile page.
[04:16] <Firefishe> on to the...
[04:16] <james147> Firefishe: and if you want the latest and greatest versions then you need to upgrade
[04:17] <Firefishe> Maybe I'll ppa it.  I've never done a ppa before, so perhaps it's time.
[04:17] <james147> ^^ or that, although I do not know what problems you will encounter
[04:18] <Firefishe> james147: My laptop is running, concurrently, gnome 2.30.2 (which I plan on keeping, what with the Unity problems), kde 4.5.6 (which is humming along just fine, but which I'd like to upgrade to the next stage), and xfce (I forget what version.)  I don't see how 4.6 can be so much different from 4.5.6.
[04:19] <james147> Firefishe: for one it no longer requires hal
[04:19] <Firefishe> thank the gods
[04:19] <Firefishe> ;)
[04:19] <james147> ^^ which is quite a large change
[04:20] <Firefishe> and does hal not exist in 10.10 and above (ubuntu)
[04:20] <james147> it does, just kde 4.6 dosent 'require' it
[04:20] <Firefishe> I see.
[04:20] <james147> other things might
[04:21] <Firefishe> james147: Does 4.6 also handle networking differently than 4.5.x?  I currently am using nm-applet (gnome-network-manager) across all desktops.
[04:21] <james147> Firefishe: it still uses network-manager, but there is a widget to replace knetworkmanager which handles things slightly better
[04:22] <Firefishe> james147: again, thank ye gods! ;)
[04:22] <Firefishe> I see that kde no longer uses svn, but has switched--or appears to still be switching to--git.
[04:23] <james147> yes, its slowly switching
[04:24] <jetpack> :(
[04:24] <jetpack> Bug: Keyboard response time is to slow when i use Bloq Mayus, i getting this : EXample,  THis is another Example. This happens since i starting using Ubuntu (8.04) and also occurs with KDE, Gnome, XFCE, with different machines, keyboards, etc.
[04:42] <Firefishe> james147: Well, I think I'll hold off the compiling for now.  So much to prepare, so little brain power at 11:41pm ;) hee
[04:42] <Firefishe> james147: I'll need a stack of doritos and mountain dew to do that project LOL.  Well, thanks for the info, I do appreciate it.
[04:43] <mishugana> oh man
[04:43] <mishugana> nothing is working
[04:58] <Daskreech> mishugana: You are here so the internet is working
[04:58] <mishugana> yes
[04:58] <mishugana> the internet is
[04:58] <mishugana> but i cant get my system to boot
[04:58] <mishugana> i mean
[04:58] <mishugana> i cant get grub to reautoconfigure
[04:59] <mishugana> *grub2
[04:59] <mishugana> im on the livecd
[04:59] <FloodBotK2> mishugana: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:59] <mishugana> sorry about the flooding.
[05:07] <Daskreech> mishugana: ok what have you tried?
[05:07] <Daskreech> !grub2 > mishugana
[05:24] <mishugana> ? oh ive tried grub-install, and restored grub. however the menu is the menu from my old computer, and not my new one, so the grub menu choices are screwed up since everything has changed (number of partitions and os's etc)
[05:28] <mishugana> i've also looked over all of grub2s troubleshooting information.... the problem is im on a livecd and when i try to grub-mkconfig or update-grub, i get the error that cannot find a device for /
[05:39] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[06:00] <Ant13> Hello everyone, id need some help dualbooting windows and kubuntu, the official guides dont seem to work as windows loads from grub, goes to windows logo (loading screen) and my pc restarts
[06:03] <Daskreech> Which Windows?
[06:05] <mishugana> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099 did this and fixed it
[06:11] <bvierra|l> hey all, anyone here that can help me with my touchpad
[06:12] <bvierra|l> been reading dorums forever, cannot seem to find issue
[06:12] <Daskreech> which is?
[06:12] <Daskreech> mishugana: Great :)
[06:13] <bvierra|l> wanting it to be seen as a touchpad :)
[06:13] <bvierra|l> want it to do things such as auto disable when USB is plugged in etc
[06:13] <Daskreech> does lshw or lspci See it?
[06:14] <bvierra|l> hwinfo --mouse does
[06:15] <bvierra|l> it shows 2 of them
[06:15] <bvierra|l> #1 is my logitech usb mouse
[06:15] <bvierra|l> #2 shows as "PS/2 Generic Mouse"
[06:16] <bvierra|l> #2 should be the touchpad
[06:18] <mishugana> Ant: which windows, 7 or xp?
[06:25] <dustin> whats up everyone
[06:36] <Daskreech> hi dustin
[06:36] <Daskreech> bvierra|l: looked in the touchpad area of system setting?
[06:37] <bvierra|l> yea lots of ppl seem to have the issue
[06:37] <bvierra|l> it sees Synaptics touchpad as a Generic PS/2 Mouse
[06:43] <Daskreech> what's up dustin?
[06:47] <User> hallo, i'm here to request help with an issue that i'm experiencing whilst attempting to install Kubuntu. For some reason, it does not pick up that I have another OS (MS Vista) installed as well, and thus does not give me the option to dual boot. I would like to know if there is any particular cause (probably me, but I would like to know), and what I can do about it. :)
[06:50] <dustin> anyone got any ideas?
[06:52] <dustin> okay here's the deal folks, i got this mudlib file in the home/folder and i need to run it through the terminal but i got no idea how to run a program from there anyone spare some time on this issue who is fluenant in linux?
[06:56] <Daskreech> User: You can add the entry to Grub
[06:57] <Daskreech> dustin: what are the instructions you got?
[06:57] <User> >implying i know what that means ;x
[06:58] <Daskreech> User: you can look up grub2 vista chainloader
[06:58] <User> basically i just burned the boot/install disk, stuck it in, booted from disk, and it didn't detect Vista, so i could either wipe my HD or i could create a partition, which i have no idea how to do
[06:58] <User> all i want to do is dual boot
[06:58] <User> the point of using Kubuntu is to be a RoR development environment, since it's awful in windows o_o
[06:59] <mishugana> wait so you just want to know how to dualboot kubuntu? you have a regular vista already installed?
[07:00] <User> yes o.o
[07:00] <User> it didn't auto-detech vista, is the problem
[07:01] <mishugana> what does that mean that it didnt autodetech vista? did you burn a livecd/installer and install kubuntu? and then take out the cd and reboot?
[07:02] <Daskreech> User: How do you know it didn't auto detect Vista?
[07:03] <User> i mean that from what i've seen, that if a different OS is already installed, that during the installation menu that an option to dual boot should be at the top of the options concerning space
[07:03] <mishugana> have you installed yet?
[07:03] <User> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=snapshot17.png the top option here
[07:04] <User> and, i just have the CD, so no
[07:04] <Daskreech> dustin: where are you having problems?
[07:04] <User> i haven't installed, because my only two options were to erase the HD, or make a partition
[07:05] <mishugana> you probably want to make a partition
[07:05] <Daskreech> User: can you screenshot what you are seeing and pastebin it?
[07:05] <Daskreech> User: You have a panel right?
[07:05] <dustin> daskreech the problem is i down't know how to load the stuff
[07:05] <dustin> :)
[07:05] <dustin> im very new to this
[07:05] <User> i have no idea how to ss outside of print-screen o_O
[07:06] <Daskreech> dustin: Which stuff? you put all the things into the directories?
[07:06] <mishugana> for dualbooting, you ussually have two partitions, you can choose to boot into either one, one will be your original partition with vista on it, and one will be your new one with kubuntu
[07:06] <Daskreech> User: That's why I'm asking you if you have a panel?
[07:06] <User> i don't even know what a panel is
[07:06] <Daskreech> User: at the bottom right is a little yellow button?
[07:06] <User> i get the concept of a partition o_O
[07:06] <dustin> daskreech- i think so never loaded a mudlib before :(
[07:06] <Daskreech> click on it and you should get a black box with an option to add widgets
[07:07] <Daskreech> dustin: which step are you on?
[07:07] <User> before installing?
[07:07] <Daskreech> User: Si :)
[07:07] <dustin> daskreech 1
[07:07] <User> wth?
[07:07] <User> O_O
[07:07] <Daskreech> User: hold on
[07:07] <User> kk
[07:07] <dustin> at the part where to delete old trys and start all over from scratch
[07:07] <Daskreech> User: ok let me get this straight. You put in the CD and it gave you an option to try Linux or Install and you chose install?
[07:08] <User> ja
[07:08] <User> do i have to try -> install, instead of install?
[07:08] <Daskreech> dustin: ok well make the directories they ask for and copy the source code there
[07:08] <Daskreech> User: Do you have enough RAM to do that?
[07:09] <User> all my RAM is under C, 931 GB, but 711 GB is free
[07:09] <dustin> hmm by source code do u mean this whole folder?
[07:09] <Daskreech> User: that's hard drive space. How much memory does your computer have
[07:09] <dustin> daskreech could i just send this to u so u could atleast view the contents to maybe give me a idea if its missing things or such?
[07:09] <Daskreech> Though with 1TB of space I don't think you have a problem
[07:10] <Daskreech> dustin: I guess but that doesn't really make much difference :)
[07:10] <User> oh, memory, 4GB
[07:10] <Daskreech> I still don't know what is the exact point you are having a problem
[07:10] <Daskreech> User: how are you here now? you rebooted back to Vista?
[07:11] <User> yes ofc, i wasn't going to delete everything to install Kubuntu o_O
[07:11] <User> i tried this a bit ago, ran into that problem, looked for a solution, couldn't find one, so a friend suggested i go get an IRC client and try here
[07:11] <dustin> hmm dont know where the send file button is
[07:11] <Daskreech> User: Ok select Try Kubuntu and then you will get  a desktop
[07:12] <User> uh
[07:12] <Daskreech> click on the "start menu" and under applications -> internet  choose Konversation and it will bring you back here
[07:12] <User> uh
[07:12] <User> well
[07:12] <User> i installed xchat client to be here >.>
[07:13] <Daskreech> User: that's ok :)
[07:13] <User> not sure if i could get here through mibbit or not
[07:13] <Daskreech> You can get here from the Live CD as well
[07:13] <User> all right
[07:13] <Daskreech> Just start the application Konversation
[07:13] <User> okay
[07:13] <User> brb lol
[07:14] <dustin> lol i got no idea how find the send file on this app
[07:14] <Daskreech> dustin: it's ok just keep it
[07:14] <Daskreech> where did you get the file from?
[07:15] <dustin> been so long i dont remember
[07:15] <dustin> maybe i should just do a fresh install
[07:16] <dustin> lemme try to find a new one i hope afk to look daskreech
[07:17] <Daskreech> dustin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LPMud might help
[07:33]  * Daskreech wonders if User got lost
[07:44] <Userr> *coughs*
[07:45] <Userr> i'm back o.o
[07:47] <Userr> i couldn't find the one thing that started with K, so i  simply looked for an online IRC client :l
[07:50] <Userr> ugh???????? :/
[07:54] <Daskreech> Userr:
[07:54] <Daskreech> ok
[07:55] <Daskreech> found one I guess?
[07:55] <Daskreech> Userr: press alt+F2 and type irc
[08:00] <Userr> sec
[08:00] <Userr> was afk lulz
[08:01] <Userr> yeah
[08:01] <Userr> i   saw the Quassel thing first
[08:01] <Userr> it was pretty much incomprehensible though so yeah :p
[08:02] <Daskreech> Userr: ah ok :)
[08:02] <Daskreech> Right Forgot that would be on the cd
[08:02] <Userr> okay, now what >.>?
[08:03] <Daskreech> clock install
[08:03] <Daskreech> click
[08:06] <Userr> i did the language & preparation tabs, but when it got to the third one, it still only had the option of deleting everything, or  partitioning
[08:06] <Userr> :l
[08:09] <Daskreech> Userr: on the panel you have a yellow button at the extreme right?
[08:09] <Daskreech>  click it and click add widgets
[08:09] <Daskreech> then in the search type paste
[08:11] <Userr> sure, sec
[08:12] <Userr> okay
[08:12] <Userr> i think i have 'paste' now, when i went back to check it had a little blue check-mark by it
[08:13] <Daskreech> Userr: wait paste or pastbin?
[08:13] <Daskreech> pastebin?
[08:13] <Userr> paste
[08:13] <Userr> :l
[08:13] <Daskreech> Sorry you can remove that one if you like
[08:13] <Userr> O_O
[08:14] <Daskreech> Just drag the one that says pastebin to the desktop
[08:14] <Userr> pastebin to desktop
[08:14] <Daskreech> you'll get a new icon
[08:14] <Userr> k
[08:14] <Userr> sec
[08:14] <Userr> k, have the new icon
[08:15] <Daskreech> ok press printscreen
[08:15] <Userr> k?
[08:15] <Daskreech> Got a new window?
[08:15] <Userr> yes
[08:16] <Userr> 'snapshot1.png-KSnapshot'
[08:16] <Daskreech> Ok alt-tab to the install then bring up that window and click Take a new snapshot
[08:16] <Daskreech> then you can drag the snapshot right off that window onto the pastebin icon on the desktop
[08:19] <Daskreech> Let me know when that has happened
[08:21] <Userr> i saved the pic
[08:21] <Userr> now trying to drop it into  pastebin
[08:21] <Userr> doesn't seem to be working :/
[08:21] <Daskreech> Userr: You don't need to save it just drag it from the window
[08:21] <Daskreech> hmmm
[08:21] <Userr> i can put the pic online though
[08:21] <Userr> sec, will put it on imageshack
[08:22] <Daskreech> Userr: ok there is a wrench to the side when you hover over the pastebin?
[08:22] <Userr> yes
[08:23] <Daskreech> Click it
[08:23] <Daskreech> make sure the dropdown beside imagebin server has something in it
[08:24] <Userr> http://img687.imageshack.us/i/disksetupissue.png/
[08:24] <Daskreech> then try drop the image on it
[08:24] <Userr> i think that works
[08:24] <Userr> :/
[08:25] <Daskreech> ok
[08:25] <Daskreech> got it
[08:25] <Daskreech> I think :/
[08:25] <Userr> oh wait
[08:25] <Userr> it's super blurry
[08:25] <Userr> wtf lol
[08:25] <Daskreech> Yeah
[08:25] <Userr> okay
[08:25] <Daskreech> what's up with that?
[08:26] <Userr> i dunno D:
[08:26] <Daskreech> Were you shaking the monitor ? :)
[08:26] <Daskreech> Does it look like that on the printscreen?
[08:26] <Userr> lol
[08:27] <Userr> let me see :/
[08:27] <Daskreech> Alt-tab to the install press print screen and you should be able to just drag it off that window into the pastebin
[08:27] <Userr> okay will try that again
[08:29] <Daskreech> hi bigbrovar
[08:30] <Userr> trying to pastebin
[08:30] <Userr> will try some other online hosting if it doesn't work
[08:30] <Userr> and...it didn't work
[08:31] <Daskreech> screwed up again?
[08:31] <Userr> the pastebin widget
[08:31] <Userr> apparently the pic is clear
[08:31] <Userr> perhaps pastebin is just for text? >_>
[08:32] <Daskreech> Naw I just threw a pic there and it worked
[08:32] <Daskreech> different provider perhaps?
[08:32] <Userr> o.o?
[08:35] <Userr> http://tinypic.com/r/e8l3c8/7
[08:38] <Daskreech> Userr: Ok yeah that's messed up
[08:38] <Daskreech> Userr: can you open Dolphon
[08:38] <Daskreech> Dolphin
[08:39] <Daskreech> On the left can you tell me if you see a hard drive at the bottom of the list?
[08:39] <Daskreech> Under Trash
[08:40] <Userr> sec :/
[08:41] <Userr> yes
[08:41] <Userr> 931.5 GiB Hard-Drive
[08:42] <Daskreech> Can you click on it?
[08:42] <Userr> mhmm
[08:42] <Userr> shows the files in C as well
[08:42] <Daskreech> Seee if it has Folders and stuff and stuff
[08:42] <Userr> it does
[08:42] <Daskreech> :-/
[08:42] <Daskreech> That's not good
[08:42] <Userr> =S?
[08:43] <Daskreech> unitylogger: do you have any idea how Ubuqity does hard drive detection?
[08:43] <unitylogger> Daskreech: the most horrible way I could imagine
[08:44] <Daskreech> Userr: The installer is supposed to know there is something on the drive
[08:44] <unitylogger> pyth0rn software always does it that way and that way only
[08:44] <Daskreech> unitylogger: Userr has Vista installed and for some reason would like to keep it :)
[08:44] <unitylogger> Daskreech: at the lowest level however it will try to read the partition table per disk :)
[08:44] <unitylogger> blimey
[08:44] <unitylogger> I am no shrink :P
[08:44] <Daskreech> The installer is seeing a blank HDD though
[08:45] <Daskreech> Dolphin sees Vista
[08:45] <unitylogger> most likely the partition table is in an incosistent state
[08:45] <Daskreech> unitylogger: I've decided to leave Userr with that delusion and apply regular sessions of KDE :)
[08:46] <Daskreech> unitylogger: Ah hmm right so Get Windows to FixIt ?
[08:46] <Daskreech> Userr: Following any of this so far?
[08:46] <unitylogger> you can do that with any embedded linux mostly :P
[08:46] <unitylogger> but I had no coffee yet
[08:46] <unitylogger> so lord google will know best
[08:47] <Userr> x.x
[08:47] <Daskreech> What man! Get thee to a Columbian!
[08:47] <Userr> not really o.o
[08:47] <Userr> main reason i'm installing kubuntu
[08:47] <Userr> is to be a Ruby/Ruby on Rails development environment
[08:48] <Userr> since pretty much every Ruby/RoR developer is either Mac or Linux
[08:48] <Userr> so if I use windows, there's no support and things are outdated
[08:48] <Daskreech> Userr: near as my 1/4 awake friend here can guess (I agree though) is that the drive may have some small inconsistency
[08:48] <Userr> o.o
[08:48] <Daskreech> If you can scandisk it in Windows then it should be able to fix it
[08:48] <Userr> ?
[08:49] <Daskreech> if it does then Hoorah! all things are beautiful
[08:49] <Userr> X_X
[08:50] <Daskreech> Userr: :) what are you worried about?
[08:50] <Userr> scandisk it in windows? >_>
[08:50] <Daskreech> Right
[08:50] <unitylogger> scandisk might not see the issue though
[08:50] <Daskreech> unitylogger: What would?
[08:50] <unitylogger> I'd use cfdisk, that usually spits out very useful errors
[08:51] <Daskreech> That's linuxy
[08:51] <unitylogger> well yeah
[08:51] <unitylogger> he got an install cd running, no? :P
[08:51] <Userr> i'm a noob >.>
[08:51] <Daskreech> yes
[08:52] <todulchaos> Im runnin kubuntu 10.10 on an acer r3610 connected to my tv for user as a media pc.
[08:52] <unitylogger> Daskreech: tell him how to switch to a tty and back again then :P
[08:52] <Daskreech> unitylogger: would you be able to help while you coffeenate?
[08:52] <todulchaos> Display is out of range on the boards at max resolution
[08:52] <Userr> *caffinate :p
[08:52] <todulchaos> can't figure out any other way to shrink it
[08:52] <Daskreech> unitylogger: I can do that :)
[08:52] <unitylogger> or reboot into the live modus and fire up konsole
[08:52] <Daskreech> unitylogger: he's in live mode now
[08:52] <Userr> yep yep
[08:52] <Daskreech> Assuming that Userr is a he
[08:52] <unitylogger> ah, splendid then :)
[08:53] <Userr> i'm a she
[08:53] <Userr> but it's okay
[08:53] <Daskreech> Userr: thought that might be the case
[08:53] <Userr> what gives me away? the usage of emoticons? ;d
[08:53] <Daskreech> No :)
[08:53] <Userr> >_>
[08:53] <Daskreech> I use about as much as you
[08:54] <Daskreech> Though if you had started doing Bunny ones maybe
[08:54] <Userr> LOL
[08:54] <unitylogger> oi
[08:54] <unitylogger> I do bunny ones
[08:54] <unitylogger> at times
[08:54] <Daskreech> sorry unitylogger Iknow
[08:54] <Daskreech> and they are pink too
[08:54] <Userr> (>^_^)>
[08:54] <todulchaos> wow, get a date lol
[08:54]  * unitylogger activates the coffee robot
[08:54] <Daskreech> <(^_^<)
[08:54] <unitylogger> todulchaos: you tried systemsettings I presume?
[08:55] <unitylogger> there is a display settings thing in there
[08:55] <todulchaos> systemssettingss? yeah where you can change the resolution
[08:55] <Userr> o.o
[08:55] <Daskreech> Userr: ok can you open a Konsole
[08:55] <unitylogger> todulchaos: and that does not work?
[08:55] <todulchaos> im at max resolution.  I need to be able to litterally resize it somehow
[08:55] <Daskreech> Userr: pretty easy press alt+F2
[08:55] <Daskreech> then type konsole
[08:55] <Daskreech> You'll get a black window
[08:55] <Userr> okay
[08:55] <unitylogger> todulchaos: does your TV even support max resolution?
[08:55] <Userr> konsole = command prompt
[08:56] <Daskreech> yes
[08:56] <Daskreech> for this purpose
[08:56] <Userr> i know some  command prompt stuff for windows >_>
[08:56] <todulchaos> yes... for my video card.  I run a higher resolution with win7 using that same and same tv
[08:56] <Daskreech> Userr: Unix/Linux is a whole different kettle of fish
[08:56] <Daskreech> Without the associated smell
[08:57] <Daskreech> People simply drop into the command prompt and live there in linux
[08:57] <unitylogger> on a related note, do not eat fish that smells ...
[08:57] <todulchaos> damn borders of the screen are out off the screen
[08:57] <todulchaos> litterally can't see almost any of the taskbar
[08:57]  * unitylogger lives in a house, which is also very nice
[08:57] <Daskreech> Userr: type sudo apt-get install cfdisk
[08:57] <unitylogger> todulchaos: well, try a lower resolution, but it might really be a driver problem
[08:57] <todulchaos> running a lower resolution makes it worse.
[08:58] <todulchaos> shits even bigger
[08:58] <unitylogger> oy vey
[08:58] <Userr> i prefer a text editor or ide, like programming-wise
[08:58] <Userr> >.>
[08:58] <Daskreech> Curses there was a command to snap that back to something normal
[08:58] <Userr> will probably use gedit, but yeah
[08:58] <Daskreech> Userr: You can get those really easily
[08:58] <todulchaos> maybe so, according to the system it detects the nvidia ion correctly
[08:58] <todulchaos> odd thing is its only like that with kubuntu
[08:58] <Userr> sec
[08:59] <unitylogger> todulchaos: are you using the proprietary nvidia driver?
[08:59] <todulchaos> ran ubuntu and backtrack on the same one, works fine
[08:59] <Daskreech> sure
[08:59] <todulchaos> unitylogger: yes.
[08:59] <unitylogger> todulchaos: did you try the nvidia settings tool thing?
[08:59] <Userr> Daskreech: E: unable to locate package cfdisk
[08:59] <Daskreech> Urk
[09:00] <unitylogger> sudo apt-get update
[09:00] <todulchaos> uhm, no, didn't see an nvidia control panel or settings menu other than the normal systemsettings
[09:00] <Daskreech> right CD
[09:00] <Userr> just that by itself? o_O
[09:00] <Daskreech> Userr: yes sudo apt-get update
[09:00] <unitylogger> Daskreech: actually I think it is already installed
[09:00] <Daskreech> oj
[09:00] <unitylogger> cfdisk is part of some lowlevel tools package
[09:00] <unitylogger> Daskreech: me@avatar:~$ dpkg -S cfdisk
[09:00] <unitylogger> util-linux: /sbin/cfdisk
[09:00] <Daskreech> Userr: ah hmm can you just type cfdisk --version
[09:01] <Userr> sure, though i've already done the update command :)
[09:01] <Daskreech> Great :)
[09:01] <Daskreech> doesn't hurt to update :)
[09:01] <unitylogger> todulchaos: the package is called nvidia-settings IIRC
[09:01] <Userr> cfdisk-v
[09:01] <unitylogger> that should then install a new tool into menu -> settings -> nvidia or somesuch
[09:02] <Daskreech> Userr: I'll let unitylogger steer from now
[09:02] <unitylogger> just do sudo cfdisk :P
[09:02] <Userr> cfdisk (util-linux-ng 2.17.2)
[09:02] <unitylogger> if something is wrong it will start crying
[09:03] <Daskreech> oh whoops
[09:03] <Userr> uh it just launched cfdisk from within kommand or w.e? o_O
[09:03] <Daskreech> should get Userr to unmount the Vista drive
[09:03] <unitylogger> nah
[09:03] <Daskreech> ok
[09:03] <unitylogger> partition tables do not know about mounts and stuff ^^
[09:04] <Daskreech> hm guess now
[09:04] <Daskreech> not
[09:04] <Userr>    Disk Drive: /dev/sda                                                     Size: 1000204886016 bytes, 1000.2 GB                                    Heads: 255   Sectors per Track: 63   Cylinders: 121601                                                                                                   Name        Flags      Part Type  FS Type          [Label]        Size (MB)   ----------------------------------------------------------
[09:04] <Userr> :/
[09:06] <unitylogger> that is... odd
[09:06] <Userr> btw, is there an easy terminal command i can use to download flash so i can listen to music on youtube while doing this? >_>
[09:06] <Daskreech> Userr: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:06] <todulchaos> nvidia-settings IIRC wasn't installed
[09:06] <Userr> k sec lolz
[09:07] <unitylogger> sudo fdisk -l
[09:07] <unitylogger> also sudo cfdisk -P t
[09:07] <todulchaos> .apt-get install nvidia-settings atm
[09:07] <Daskreech> Userr: You can open a second tab and keep doing both :)
[09:07] <todulchaos> fuck, unable to locate package
[09:07] <Userr> E: Unable to locate package flashplugin-nonfree
[09:08] <Userr> and i know, i have like   8 tabs open
[09:08] <Userr> o_O
[09:08] <Userr> usually have like 30 open in FF
[09:09] <Daskreech> !language | todulchaos
[09:09] <Userr> o_O
[09:09] <Daskreech> Userr: haha 8 ? Wow
[09:09] <Daskreech> ok you are built for web dev
[09:09] <Userr> is what i'll be doing with Ruby on Rails x.x
[09:09] <todulchaos> LOL
[09:10] <Daskreech> Userr: What did sudo fdisk -l say ?
[09:10] <Userr> uh didn't try it
[09:10] <Userr> sorry if i missed that
[09:10] <Userr> sec
[09:11] <Userr> Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xf54c0c2e     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1   *           1      121601   976758784    7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:12] <Daskreech> Did you try sudo cfdisk -P t ?
[09:12] <Userr> Partition Table for /dev/sda           ---Starting----      ----Ending-----    Start     Number of  # Flags Head Sect  Cyl   ID  Head Sect  Cyl     Sector    Sectors -- ----- ---- ---- ----- ---- ---- ---- ----- ----------- -----------  1  0x80   32   33     0 0x07  247   55 121600        2048  1953517568  2  0x00    0    0     0 0x00    0    0     0           0           0  3  0x00    0    0     0 0x00    0    0     0           0   
[09:12] <Userr> lolwat
[09:12] <Userr> am i supposed to be looking at/for?
[09:13] <Daskreech> Userr: I think this is more for unitylogger to look at
[09:13] <Daskreech> once the coffee kicks in :)
[09:13] <unitylogger> best guess without coffee: corrupted MBR
[09:14] <unitylogger> sudo apt-get install ms-sys
[09:14] <unitylogger> and after that
[09:14] <unitylogger> sudo ms-sys -m /dev/sda
[09:14] <unitylogger> if that breaks the MBR Daskreech is to blame
[09:14] <Daskreech> Gnight folks
[09:16] <Userr> o.o
[09:17] <todulchaos> MBR's are easy to fix if you break them
[09:17] <Userr> the first doesn't work
[09:17] <Userr> unable to locate package ms-sys
[09:18] <unitylogger> oh, maybe that tool got retired
[09:21] <unitylogger> well
[09:22] <unitylogger> Userr: I think the easy way out would be to get an alternate installation CD
[09:22] <nigelb> Is there a known issue with Kopete not being able to connect to gmail?
[09:22] <nigelb> I can connect with empathy, but not with Kopete.
[09:23] <unitylogger> Userr: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/10.10/
[09:23] <Userr> how would making another boot  CD help?
[09:23] <unitylogger> it features a less graphicy install and uses partially different tools than the graphical installer
[09:24] <unitylogger> making it sometimes more reliable
[09:24] <Userr> ;/
[09:25] <Userr> what other options are there?  like is there any way to figure out *why*  it isn't reading the existence of Vista?
[09:26] <unitylogger> perhaps
[09:27] <unitylogger> if I knew where to look
[09:27] <unitylogger> probably /var/log/installer/
[09:27] <unitylogger> Userr: what does `ls /var/log/installer/` output?
[09:28] <Userr> Is: command not found
[09:28] <Userr> o.o
[09:30] <unitylogger> what :O
[09:30] <unitylogger> Userr: whereis ls
[09:30] <Userr> O_O
[09:31] <unitylogger> (that is a command ^^)
[09:31] <Userr> i typed in: Is /var/log/installer/
[09:35] <Userr> i'm gonna take a shower o.o will check this when i get back ;d
[09:39] <Daskreech> Userr: that's a common L
[09:39] <nigelb> My Kopete doesn't connect to gtalk :(
[09:40] <nigelb> Is there a way I can debug this?
[09:41] <Userr> oh it's an ell, not an  eye
[09:41] <Userr> O_O
[09:41] <Userr> 'debug dm version'
[09:43] <Userr> okay showering now, lolz
[09:43] <Daskreech> ha
[09:43] <Daskreech> nigelb: what does it do?
[09:44] <nigelb> Daskreech: keeps telling me I have the wrong password
[09:44] <Daskreech> nigelb: check your username
[09:44] <unitylogger> Userr: kate /var/log/installer/debug ... copy that and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[09:44] <unitylogger> then give us the url to the paste
[09:45] <unitylogger> nigelb: maybe you have the wrong password :P
[09:45] <unitylogger> also I think you need to make sure that SSL is ticked
[09:45] <nigelb> Daskreech: I did check that
[09:45] <nigelb> unitylogger: logged in from empathy and it worked
[09:46] <unitylogger> that does not say whether ssl is ticked in kopete's jabber settings :P
[09:46] <nigelb> hrm, is there a way I can kopete in debug mode?
[09:46] <nigelb> I ticked it :)
[09:46] <Daskreech> nigelb: You changed the server to say talk.google.com ?
[09:46] <nigelb> I looked at google's instructions on doing it
[09:46] <nigelb> yup
[09:46] <unitylogger> Daskreech: that is not needed no moar
[09:47] <Daskreech> I don't know what version of Kopete nigelb is using
[09:47] <unitylogger> nigelb: kdebugdialog -> tick all -> apply and stuff -> start kopete from a terminal
[09:47] <nigelb> whatever version lucid has, I'm running that
[09:48] <nigelb> unitylogger: where unitylogger kdedebugdialog? from where?
[09:48] <unitylogger> terminal
[09:48] <unitylogger> or krunner
[09:48] <unitylogger> or kickoff
[09:49] <nigelb> konsole?
[09:49] <unitylogger> konsole ~= terminal :P
[09:50] <nigelb> oh
[09:50] <nigelb> also, I guess I need to install kdedebugdialog
[09:50] <unitylogger> no
[09:50] <unitylogger> oh
[09:50] <unitylogger> kdebugdialog it is called
[09:50] <unitylogger> not kdedebugdialog
[09:52] <nigelb> haha, ok
[09:52] <nigelb> running it in debug got it working :P
[09:53] <nigelb> ok, there is some voodoo going on here.
[09:53] <nigelb> running it in debug fixed it!
[09:54] <nigelb> Wheeeeeeee!
[09:55] <kaddi> Hi, I am trying to get little preview windows for my taskbar. So when I hover over an itme, it'll show a preview of the window. However right now, I get the preview but instead of showing the content of the window, i just get a grey square, anybode know what setting I need to change to get the window content instead of a grey square
[09:56] <unitylogger> nigelb: lol, yeah, of course that fixed it :P
[09:56] <unitylogger> kaddi: is the window minimized?
[09:56] <nigelb> unitylogger: hehe
[09:56] <kaddi> unitylogger: no
[09:56] <unitylogger> in that case you might want to consider getting a graphics chip with actually working driver :P
[09:57] <kaddi> meaning?
[09:57] <unitylogger> I'd guess that the actual preview cannot be created for graphics driver reasons
[09:57] <unitylogger> as it should be there if desktop effects are active and the window is not minimized
[09:57] <kaddi> it was wokring in 4.3 .. It stopped working in 4.4 and I couldn't be bothered to look into it till now
[09:57] <kaddi> no really.. I got that far on my own
[09:58] <unitylogger> right
[09:58] <kaddi> it's an intel chip.. so I've had my share of fun with it already
[10:00] <kaddi> anyway I can check if it's the chip
[10:12] <the_p_> hi. i added a lib dir to the ld cache. but still i get the error that the lib was not found altough ldconfig -p prints out that specific lib? do i need to souce some file?
[10:19] <the_p_> problem solved i added the wrong lib path.
[10:45] <HackeMate> hello, i want to run teamviewer, it open and i can see the ID and the password, but when i connect, i receive a windows dialog about a problem and teamviewer should close itself
[10:45] <HackeMate> i opened it from console to see any error detail but shows nothing
[10:45] <HackeMate> i tried the .deb file from teamviewer.com and from apt
[10:52] <Userr> unitylogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/580083/
[11:10] <Userr> ;o?
[11:13] <Userr> unitylogger
[11:30] <r41> pulseaudio is clearly broken for me (ff flash -> no sound, certain apps -> no sound without pulseaudio restart or nothing at all). what happens when i remove pulseaudio?
[11:30] <_Sophia_> it's me, Userr! >.>
[11:32] <unitylogger> hm
[11:32] <unitylogger> _Sophia_: that is not a lot of output, is it ^^
[11:32] <_Sophia_> um? ;s
[11:32] <_Sophia_> i switched back to Vista because it wasn't going anywhere o.o
[11:33] <unitylogger> run some partiotn check tools there then :P
[11:33] <_Sophia_> there's one thing
[11:33] <_Sophia_> it's the entirety of C
[11:33] <unitylogger> or get an alternate CD :P
[11:33] <_Sophia_> maybe the alt cd
[11:33] <_Sophia_> idk when i'm going to sleep though, i've been up 24 hours and it's 4:30 am
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[12:28] <Peace-> BluesKaj: hi
[12:29] <Peace-> and bye :P
[12:29] <BluesKaj> hi and bye to you too Peace-:)
[12:52] <_Sophia_> unitylogger: maybe i should try the kubuntu forum today, if the alt cd doesn't work ;s
[12:53] <unitylogger> _Sophia_: that is always a good idea :)
[12:53] <_Sophia_> >.>
[12:53] <_Sophia_> i'm installing it today
[12:53] <_Sophia_> if it kills me
[12:53] <_Sophia_> >_>!
[13:12] <BluesKaj> _Sophia_, if you have an older pc then alternate is best , it installed just fine on my 6 yr old compaq amd 3200+ cpu 64 bit desktop
[13:15] <Nata> BluesKaj, your 3200 amd also call old desktop my 2800+ amd.....
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Nata,  well old is good if it works ...I'm old :)
[13:18] <Nata> hehe. the most trouble for install linux is when face a problem to detect graphic driver :)
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Nata, yes , the ati onboard graphics didn't work too well with 9.04 so I bought a nvidia 7600gt card which runs well.
[13:21] <BluesKaj> on all the OS since , it's now on 10.10
[13:23] <Nata> BluesKaj, can using alternate cd then using nano change to vesa :) i dont know why livecd after 8.04 dont have safe graphic mode
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Nata, alternate cd is better than just dropping to low graphics mode because it will use vesa as the default driver and has better HW detection than a live cd.
[13:29] <Nata> the problem of alternate cd is cannot using livecd mode to try system
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Nata, yes, I tried that Haiku/BeOS llive cd last night and it did loaded so much stuff into the memory and then it froze , I had to pull the plug on the pc to clear it , so it would boot.
[13:40] <_Sophia_> my issue is that of it not picking up that i have an OS installed already
[13:40] <_Sophia_> thanks though
[13:41] <_Sophia_> i'm going to go ahead and try to burn/install the alt disk i think
[13:42] <Nata> BluesKaj, hehe. haiku i try before, the software support not very good.mayb it froze on graphic driver detection
[13:44] <Nata> most of linux version cannot auto detect my buildin VIA driver BluesKaj
[13:44] <BluesKaj> _Sophia_, the alternate will pick up the other OS in the partition phase
[13:45] <_Sophia_> okay well we'll see o.o
[13:45] <BluesKaj> ok, gotta go for a few mins ...BBL
[14:17] <mr-rich> Anybody have an iPhone working on Kubuntu 10.10?
[14:49] <_Sophia_> back lol
[14:50] <_Sophia_> alt disk didn't help much, it didn't offer the dual boot option, it just gave me partitioning options that looked rather dangerous
[14:55] <BluesKaj> _Sophia_, use the manual partitioning option , if you have unallocated space then create ext4 file system as / then , if you wish you can also create a /home partition as well.
[14:55] <_Sophia_> it appears that it is all allocated
[14:55] <_Sophia_> the whole TB
[14:55] <_Sophia_> :/
[15:00] <BluesKaj> _Sophia_, and there's an OS already installed on the drive ?
[15:01] <_Sophia_> yes ofc
[15:01] <_Sophia_> Vista 64 bit
[15:01] <BluesKaj> it doesn't show the ntfs partition?
[15:06] <_Sophia_> O_O?
[15:06] <_Sophia_> ntfs?
[15:06] <_Sophia_> it has only one partition, that is the whole hard drive
[15:06] <_Sophia_> starts with an s
[15:17] <BluesKaj> _Sophia_, there 's the guided partitioning option that lets you use free space and an option to size it to whatever you want within that space
[15:18] <_Sophia_> i was concerned about somehow losing data >_>
[15:19] <BluesKaj> _Sophia_, have you looked at the live cd ?
[15:19] <_Sophia_> o_O?
[15:19] <_Sophia_> the first one?
[15:19] <_Sophia_> i have the first one, and then the alt i made a bit ago
[15:21] <BluesKaj> the first one , not sure which one that is ?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> _Sophia_, does the first one show your partitions ?
[15:25] <_Sophia_> the first one is just the standard boot disk
[15:25] <_Sophia_> and it just shows the one partition, IIRC
[15:32] <BluesKaj> the std boot disk is the live-cd afaik , pls take alook at the original file youi used to burn the cd and copy and paste the name here
[15:35] <eagles0513875> hey guys question for yall what are the bear essential packages needed to get a system up and running?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> and of course she leaves due her instant gratification expectations aren't satiated
[15:36] <eagles0513875> lol
[15:37]  * BluesKaj just shakes his head
[15:38] <BluesKaj> you can always tell a long time windows user , since when does kubuntu have a std boot disk :)
[15:38] <eagles0513875> lol
[15:44] <gobi42> what's up guys
[15:44] <gobi42> anyone in here use an xbox360 virtualbox and wifi and got it to work
[15:44] <mr-rich> AAAARRRRRGGGGG! ... Does ANYONE have thier iPhone working under Kubuntu?
[15:45] <gobi42> mr-rick android > iphone :):)
[15:45] <gobi42> *mr-rich
[15:45] <mr-rich> gobi42: prolly ... but I like my iPhone ... google is no help ... :(
[15:46] <gobi42> i never got my ipod touch to work with kubuntu
[15:47] <gobi42> install virturalbox and install a virtural xp destop and then enable your netowrk and usb drives in settings in virtualbox and install itunes and it should work fine
[15:47] <gobi42> mr-rich: that last comment was for you
[15:48] <mr-rich> gobi42: been there, done that ... playback is crappy in vbox. I want to use Amarok ...
[15:49] <gobi42> really mine is awesome and i use zune
[15:49] <mr-rich> I do use vbox to sync my phone
[15:49] <mr-rich> with itunes
[15:50] <mr-rich> I'm tinking about moving my iTunes lib to a shared folder maybe ...
[15:51] <gobi42> i store all my music on an extenal hard drive for that reason
[15:53] <BluesKaj> gobi42, one can also use a /home partition, altho a separate drive is safer alright
[15:55] <Daskreech> mr-rich: I'd suppose yes
[15:55] <gobi42> i use both a /home partion and an external hard drive
[15:55] <gobi42> i switch between kubuntu and opensuse
[15:56] <gobi42> but i like kde 4.6 so i'm staying with kubuntu i just need to figure out my xbox problem
[16:17] <Daskreech> gobi42: Opensuse has 4.6 as well but Welcome to Kubuntu :)
[16:18] <gobi42> oh lol the one i have only has 4.4.4 on it but i am likeing kubuntu once i figured out the package manger
[16:20] <mr-rich> gobi42: if you add the backport ppas to 10.10, you can upgrade to KDE 4.6.1
[16:20] <gobi42> oh i'm good for now but thanks man
[16:21] <gobi42> i'm still working out some bugs of my own before i start upgrading stuff and possibe breaking the problems i got now worse
[16:22] <Daskreech> :)
[16:22] <Daskreech> Life of a typical FOSS user
[16:22] <gobi42> lmao what's that mean
[16:22] <Daskreech> Hooray! I have everything fixed and working the way I want. What new thing can I introduce to break crap again?
[16:23] <gobi42> yeah that's about like me kinda :)
[16:23] <gobi42> i'm just trying to get my xbox to see my virtualbox xp
[16:24] <gobi42> my virtualbox xp can see my xbox and give it permissions to use and stuff but the xbox doesn't see the virtualbox xp and i can't seem to figure out why
[16:50] <PasNox> hello
[16:50] <PasNox> ca anyone point me the script to auto start to have my gtk apps having same look as kde4 ?
[16:51] <PasNox> i have created a new user and the script seem not to be present in autostart :/
[16:52] <Peace-> PasNox:
[16:52] <Peace-> PasNox: wait
[16:52] <PasNox> thanks :)
[16:56] <PasNox> Peace-: still waiting :)
[16:58] <BluesKaj> PasNox, check syetem settings / application appearance/ gtk+ appearnce
[16:59] <PasNox> i have
[16:59] <PasNox> it's set to use QtCurve
[16:59] <PasNox> but it's not working
[16:59] <PasNox> i think it works by pair with the script to start before kde / plasma
[16:59] <PasNox> BluesKaj:
[17:00] <BluesKaj> PasNox, sometimes if you have a non default theme installed and running the Qt wsettings are bypassed
[17:01] <PasNox> i use QtCurve as style / window manager style
[17:01] <PasNox> and setted QtCurve as gtk them in the kcm
[17:01] <PasNox> but it does nothing :/
[17:01] <BluesKaj> altho Qt is supposed to apply to kde and gnome apps , it doesn't always work
[17:03] <BluesKaj> PasNox, are you running kde 4.6 ? if so then that's probly the source of the problem
[17:03] <PasNox> yes rnning kde 4.6.1
[17:03] <_Sophia_> rawr
[17:03] <PasNox> but it was working before i change my user ( i create a new user, delete old )
[17:03] <PasNox> the new user does not have gtk themed
[17:03] <PasNox> but old user had correct things
[17:04] <PasNox> and i remember it autostarted a script for gtk theme before plasma
[17:04] <PasNox> it's this thing i want to got
[17:05] <BluesKaj> _Sophia_, the std boot disk is the live-cd afaik , pls take a look at the original file you used to burn the cd and copy and paste the name here
[17:05] <Peace-> PasNox: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/14/plasma-desktopWu1571.jpg
[17:05] <_Sophia_> o_O
[17:05] <_Sophia_> sec
[17:05] <PasNox> Peace-: thanks you, exactly what i was looking for ;)
[17:07] <_Sophia_> kubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64
[17:08] <_Sophia_> is that what you wanted?
[17:10] <kmanzoor> hi
[17:11] <kmanzoor> anybody home ?
[17:11] <PasNox> Peace-: i don't find this script, can u give me the absolute file path please?
[17:11] <Peace-> PasNox: wait
[17:11] <BluesKaj> _Sophia_, yes that's the lived-cd , you shuold ba able to install it beside your Windows partition without any data loss
[17:11] <_Sophia_> but what i've been saying
[17:11] <_Sophia_> is that the windows partition takes up the whole HD
[17:11] <_Sophia_> so i need to resize it
[17:12] <_Sophia_> but it won't let me resize it from within the alternative CD menu
[17:12] <PasNox> u don't need u can install inside your windows partiton if u just want to try it
[17:12] <Peace-> locate gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh
[17:12] <Peace-> /home/ecchimequa/.kde/env/gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh
[17:12] <Peace-> /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh
[17:12] <Peace-> ecchimequa@natty:~$
[17:12] <PasNox> Peace-: thanks :)
[17:12] <Peace-> PasNox: locate stuff
[17:12] <Peace-> PasNox: for the next time
[17:13] <PasNox> Peace-: i did but it seem it does not find it :/
[17:13] <PasNox> thanks
[17:13] <BluesKaj> _Sophia_, no the windows partition has free space on it and the live cd will scan the partition and guide you thru the partition setup so you can make an ext partition for kubuntu
[17:13] <_Sophia_> when i tried to do that, it said it would delete the partition >_>
[17:14] <kmanzoor> hello anybody knows any flash free email that i can access with konqueror
[17:14] <PasNox> Peace-: it seem it does no longer exists for me :/
[17:14] <PasNox> ( /usr/share ... )
[17:14] <PasNox> ah, i have a gtk2-engines-qtcurve.rc.sh inside :)
[17:15] <BluesKaj> without touching Windows , _Sophia_, use the guided partitioning option,  it will help you do it.
[17:15] <_Sophia_> okay
[17:15] <_Sophia_> what i'll do is go open that
[17:15] <_Sophia_> and write down what the problem is with that, word for word
[17:15] <_Sophia_> and come back here to make sure i'm not destroying my data
[17:15] <_Sophia_> O_O
[17:16] <kmanzoor> :)
[17:16] <BluesKaj> nothing like being super cautious , but it can be odious
[17:18] <_Sophia_> =/
[17:19] <BluesKaj> kmanzoor, flash free email ?
[17:20] <kmanzoor> i got a problem with macromedia flash
[17:20] <BluesKaj> kmanzoor, did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[17:20] <kmanzoor> let me tell u what i did
[17:21] <kmanzoor> 1. i put in the dvd and selected the first option for install
[17:21] <kmanzoor> 2. then i used the install icon that it placed on my desktop
[17:22] <kmanzoor> it prompted me for some security updates but i ignored to install them
[17:22] <kmanzoor> ok now where can i find these restricted extras >
[17:23] <BluesKaj> Peace-, this mine after installing kde 4.6 http://imagebin.org/142954
[17:23] <BluesKaj> kmanzoor, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:24] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:26] <kmanzoor> what is this image bin ?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> kmanzoor, that post was meant for Peace-
[17:27] <kmanzoor> o i see
[17:27] <Peace-> BluesKaj: opening
[17:28] <Peace-> BluesKaj: mmm
[17:28] <Peace-> BluesKaj: it's different
[17:28] <Daskreech> kmanzoor: it's a pastebin for images
[17:28] <BluesKaj> kmanzoor, it's a url where you can post pictures and the copy the address and paste it in here so others can look at them , like pastebin with images
[17:28] <_Sophia_> okay
[17:28] <Peace-> BluesKaj: ah you have qt curve
[17:29] <_Sophia_> my issue is when i click 'guided-partitioning', it says right at the top 'Note that all hard drive data will be erased'
[17:29] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i have oxygen gtk
[17:29] <Peace-> BluesKaj: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/14/plasma-desktopBb1571.jpg
[17:29] <kmanzoor> ok bye for now
[17:30] <BluesKaj> _Sophia_, there should be an option below that to partition freespace
[17:30] <kmanzoor> i will read these pages
[17:31] <_Sophia_> there isn't any freespace though
[17:31] <_Sophia_> tthere is just the one partition that is the whole HD
[17:31] <_Sophia_> ...
[17:37] <_Sophia_> going to try to find the 'partition freespace' thing :/
[17:38] <BluesKaj> _Sophia_, that aprtition has free space in it even tho it's just one partition, that free space will be used and a new partition will be created out of it. Maybe another partitioning option should be used.
[17:38] <_Sophia_> such as?
[17:38] <_Sophia_> my options all tell me that the data in the partition will be erased
[17:38] <_Sophia_> i don't want to do that
[17:38] <_Sophia_> -_-
[17:38] <Daskreech> Hi _Sophia_
[17:39] <_Sophia_> hi :/
[17:39] <Daskreech> same issue?
[17:39] <_Sophia_> yes
[17:39] <_Sophia_> D=
[17:39] <BluesKaj> go back to the partitoning options page , _Sophia_  and tell us what they are
[17:40] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: she can pastebin a screenshot
[17:40] <_Sophia_> ?
[17:40] <_Sophia_> i'm doing it from the alt cd
[17:40] <_Sophia_> so how would i do that
[17:40] <Daskreech> Oh whooops :)
[17:40] <Daskreech> never mind
[17:40] <_Sophia_> >.>
[17:40]  * Daskreech walks off whistling
[17:40] <_Sophia_> i can write it down
[17:40] <BluesKaj> oh, not the live-cd ?
[17:40] <_Sophia_> no
[17:40] <_Sophia_> i'm using alt
[17:40] <_Sophia_> since live-cd doesn't realize i have another OS installed
[17:41] <Daskreech> _Sophia_: Would you mind downloading another CD /
[17:41] <_Sophia_> i have both the live-cd
[17:41] <_Sophia_> and the alt
[17:41] <_Sophia_> :l
[17:41] <Daskreech> _Sophia_:  does the alt CD recognize Vista?
[17:41] <_Sophia_> i dunno for sure
[17:41] <Daskreech> ok what does the partitioning say?
[17:41] <_Sophia_> they both recognize that windows takes up the whole HD
[17:42] <_Sophia_> is the file system that starts with f or w.e
[17:42] <_Sophia_> and then it's like smd2 or something
[17:42] <_Sophia_> o_O
[17:42] <Daskreech> Really?
[17:42] <_Sophia_> ? :/
[17:42] <Daskreech> The screenshot of the Live CD had 0% of the drive uses
[17:42] <Daskreech> used
[17:42]  * BluesKaj thinks _Sophia_ isn't going far enough in the options list to find the manual partitioning option
[17:43] <_Sophia_> lolwhat
[17:43] <_Sophia_> it has guided
[17:43] <Daskreech> _Sophia_: which page are you on now for the installer?
[17:43] <Daskreech> ok
[17:43] <_Sophia_> then guided whole disk, then guided whole disk with encryption, the guided whole disk with encryption with VMM or something, and then manual
[17:43]  * BluesKaj takes a break
[17:44] <_Sophia_> i'm on vista right now o_O
[17:44] <_Sophia_> since i've been trying to use the alt cd, not the live-cd
[17:44] <Daskreech> _Sophia_: ah ok I see
[17:44] <Daskreech> Does anyone know what the GParted live CD is based on?
[17:45] <_Sophia_> gparted is GNOME, isn't it? >_>
[17:48] <Daskreech> _Sophia_: It's simply a CD that boots up and gives you Gparted. Might be useful to see if it can partition the drive for you then you wuld know that everything is taken care of before you install
[17:48] <_Sophia_> what
[17:48] <Peace-> partitionmanager
[17:48] <Peace-> is for kde
[17:48] <_Sophia_> so you're advising i use gparted to try to partition my HD prior to installing kubuntu? :/
[17:49] <Daskreech> Peace-: yes but I do't know a Live Cd for that
[17:49] <_Sophia_> and yeah, i just said gparted is GNOME x.x
[17:49] <Daskreech> _Sophia_: I'd tell you to use partition magic but that costs money
[17:49] <eagles0513875> hey Daskreech
[17:49] <_Sophia_> *sighs*
[17:49] <_Sophia_> okay
[17:49] <_Sophia_> here's what i'm going to do
[17:49] <Peace-> Daskreech: http://sourceforge.net/projects/partitionman/files/partitionmanager-live-cd/1.0.3/
[17:50] <Daskreech> hi eagles0513875
[17:50] <Peace-> Daskreech: that is a live cd
[17:50] <Daskreech> Peace-: Peace!
[17:50] <_Sophia_> i'm going to write down what the options are, come back, be advised on the right one, and then go to the next layer of depth =/
[17:50] <Daskreech> nice
[17:50] <eagles0513875> have you ever worked with sslh
[17:50] <Daskreech> _Sophia_: Ok lets do this
[17:50] <_Sophia_> k brb lol
[17:50] <Daskreech> boot up the live CD and we can try to do work from there
[17:50] <Daskreech> we can talk as well
[17:50] <_Sophia_> live CD or alt?
[17:50] <Daskreech> live CD
[17:50] <_Sophia_> alt has the partition options
[17:50] <DarthFrog> _Sophia_: You might also want to image your hard drive first with Clonezilla, in case anything goes wrong.
[17:50] <_Sophia_> live just has manual
[17:50] <Daskreech> I know
[17:51] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: It's a 1 TB drive
[17:51] <_Sophia_> x.x
[17:51] <_Sophia_> okay
[17:51] <_Sophia_> putting in live-cd
[17:51] <_Sophia_> sec :/
[17:51] <_Sophia_> will have to get on here through web though
[17:51] <_Sophia_> since i didn't know how to install this irc client in linux
[17:51] <_Sophia_> lol
[17:51] <Daskreech> I remember :)
[17:51] <_Sophia_> >.> brb
[17:53] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: Clonezilla doesn't backup free space.
[17:54] <Daskreech> ah intelligent
[17:54] <eagles0513875> Daskreech:  you ever work with sslh
[17:54] <Daskreech> Who is that?
[17:54] <eagles0513875> its ssl over ssh or ssh over ssl
[17:54] <eagles0513875> http://www.rutschle.net/tech/sslh.shtml
[17:54] <Daskreech> that sounds remarkably like overkill
[17:55] <eagles0513875> not if your on a locked down network
[17:55] <Daskreech> ok
[17:55] <Daskreech> well no if a network is that locked down I generally leave
[17:55] <eagles0513875> lol
[17:56] <eagles0513875> Daskreech: in a nut shell its description is that it allows you to run https and ssh on the same port
[17:56] <Daskreech> ah like ssh tunnelining ?
[17:57] <eagles0513875> ya
[17:57] <eagles0513875> trying to figure out how to configure it
[17:57] <eagles0513875> the site is rather poor documentation wise
[17:58] <dustin> taiga
[17:59] <Daskreech> hi dustin
[17:59] <dustin> hello
[17:59] <dustin> i got my tinymux server up but dont know how to find out what port its on and the ip address linking to it :(
[18:00] <Daskreech> dustin: is your computer connected to the internet directly or is it behind a modem or wireless routed?
[18:01] <dustin> its DSL and im direct connected into a router
[18:01] <dustin> wireless at that
[18:03] <Daskreech> dustin: ok your router should have an external IP address that you will have to port forward to your computer
[18:03] <Daskreech> you will have to read the documentation or read the config files to see which port it's on'
[18:04] <Daskreech> (>^_^)> _Sophia :)
[18:04] <_Sophia> hi
[18:04] <_Sophia> in live-cd ;o
[18:04] <_Sophia> been up 30 hours
[18:04] <_Sophia> lets do this x.x
[18:05] <Daskreech> agreed
[18:05] <_Sophia> also: <(T_T<)
[18:05] <Daskreech> open a konsole and sudo apt-get install partitionmanager
[18:05] <Daskreech> !info partitionmanager
[18:05] <_Sophia> kk
[18:05] <Daskreech> _Sophia: umm sudo apt-get update first
[18:05] <_Sophia> is there a keyboard shortcut for konsole?
[18:05] <_Sophia> okay
[18:06] <dustin> like what youmean daskreech?
[18:06] <Daskreech> dustin: hmm ?
[18:06] <Daskreech> _Sophia: installed partition manager?
[18:07] <rizzuh> How do I set the start/meta key to open kickoff (KDE's "Start" menu)?
[18:07] <_Sophia> 'E: Unable to location package partitionmanager
[18:07] <_Sophia> is there a space in the phrase maybe?
[18:07] <Daskreech> should not be
[18:07] <Daskreech> _Sophia: you did sudo apt-get update right?
[18:07] <_Sophia> yes
[18:08] <DarthFrog> Is partitionmanager in medibuntu?
[18:08] <Daskreech> grr ok alt+F2 -> kpackagekit
[18:08] <DarthFrog> No, it's in universe.
[18:09] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: I thought Universe was enabled by default
[18:09] <DarthFrog> It is.
[18:09] <Daskreech> >_>
[18:09] <Daskreech> then why isn't it installing?
[18:09] <DarthFrog> I wonder if _Sophia spelled it correctly.
[18:09] <Daskreech> !info partitionmanager
[18:09] <DarthFrog> _Sophia:  What do you get from: apt-cache search partitionmanager?
[18:10] <Daskreech> that's copied from her error message
[18:11] <DarthFrog> Which version of Kubuntu is she running?
[18:11] <_Sophia> o.o
[18:11] <_Sophia> 10.10
[18:11] <Daskreech> latest
[18:12] <_Sophia> because i'm edgy >_>
[18:12] <DarthFrog> Hmm.  This is from the LiveCD?
[18:12] <Peace-> omg
[18:12] <Peace-> edgy
[18:12] <_Sophia> seriously though, i typed in: sudo apt-get install partition manager
[18:12] <Peace-> no support for that
[18:12] <_Sophia> lol peace
[18:13] <Peace-> partition manager i guess is on >=9.04
[18:13] <DarthFrog> _Sophia: There's no space in the package name partitionmanager.
[18:13] <DarthFrog> So "sudo apt-get install partitionmanager"
[18:13] <_Sophia> oh, i did both o_O
[18:13] <_Sophia> i'll copy+paste to be sure !!
[18:13] <_Sophia> LOL
[18:13] <Peace-> _Sophia: you are on edgy?
[18:13] <Peace-> or maverick?
[18:14] <Peace-> edgy no way to install i t
[18:14] <Peace-> it
[18:14] <_Sophia> what
[18:14] <Peace-> nothing..
[18:14] <_Sophia> i was using 'edgy' as a joke adjective ;s
[18:14] <DarthFrog> Peace-: You're not helping. :-)
[18:14] <_Sophia> also   darth, i copied+pasted that, and  it did nothing ;o
[18:14] <Daskreech> Peace-: she hasn't slept in a long time she's punchy
[18:15] <Daskreech> _Sophia: just type partitionmanager
[18:15] <Daskreech> I want to see if it's installed already on the CD though I doubt it
[18:17] <DarthFrog> _Sophia:  Is the CD for Ubuntu or Kubuntu?  Partitionmanager is a KDE program.
[18:18] <_Sophia> kubuntu
[18:18] <_Sophia> OH
[18:18] <_Sophia> HEY
[18:19] <_Sophia> 'partitionmanager is currently not installed. you can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install partitionmanager . you will have to enable the component called 'universe'
[18:19] <_Sophia> :/
[18:20] <_Sophia> still unable to locate the package partitionmanager though o.o
[18:20] <DarthFrog> Well, if universe isn't enabled, no wonder. :-)
[18:20] <_Sophia> enable universe
[18:20] <_Sophia> does that work?
[18:20] <_Sophia> >_>
[18:20] <DarthFrog> It should.
[18:20] <_Sophia> bash: enable: universe: not a shell builtin
[18:20] <_Sophia> what does that mean?
[18:20] <DarthFrog> Use kpackagekit to do it.
[18:21] <DarthFrog> No, "enable universe" is an action, not a command. :-)
[18:21] <Peace-> _Sophia: universe stuff kpakcagekit http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/14/plasma-desktopkX1571.jpg
[18:21] <_Sophia> 'kpackagekit is already the newest version' ;o
[18:22] <DarthFrog> _Sophia: Look at that JPG that Peace- referenced.
[18:22] <_Sophia> okay, and? O_O
[18:22] <DarthFrog> i.e Open Kpackagekit and configure it to use the universe repository.
[18:22] <DarthFrog> In the "Origin of Packages" section.
[18:23] <_Sophia> already opened it ;o
[18:23] <_Sophia> 'origin of packages' is not visible to me >.>
[18:23] <Peace-> !imagebin
[18:24] <DarthFrog> Under "Setting:?
[18:24] <Peace-> _Sophia: do a screenshot
[18:24] <Peace-> and post using the imagebin link
[18:25] <_Sophia> imagebin? o.o
[18:25] <_Sophia> lolol
[18:25] <_Sophia> oh okay
[18:26] <DarthFrog> Use the "Edit Origins" button in the lower right corner.  You can enable universe from there, too.
[18:26] <Peace-> _Sophia: do a screenshot *___* http://blip.tv/file/4876138?filename=Nowardev-PostareUnoScreenshotVelocementeConKde4625.m4v
[18:27] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: walk her through enabling universe
[18:27] <_Sophia> http://imagebin.org/142964
[18:28] <DarthFrog> _Sophia: So go to the Settings page in KPackageKit.
[18:28] <_Sophia> oh
[18:28] <_Sophia> i just found that
[18:28] <_Sophia> sleep deprivation = stupidity :D
[18:28] <DarthFrog> Do you see universe?
[18:28] <_Sophia> k, there
[18:29] <_Sophia> that?
[18:29] <_Sophia> maverick universe?
[18:29] <DarthFrog> Yes.
[18:29] <_Sophia> ja
[18:29] <DarthFrog> Enable it.
[18:29] <_Sophia> i just hit the checkbox?
[18:29] <DarthFrog> Ja.
[18:29] <_Sophia> k
[18:29] <_Sophia> hit apply
[18:29] <_Sophia> now what
[18:30] <_Sophia> oh
[18:30] <DarthFrog> You can now install partitionmanage from KPackageKit, after doing an update.
[18:30] <_Sophia> partitionmanager
[18:30] <_Sophia> already did the cmd
[18:30] <Daskreech> _Sophia: worked?
[18:30] <DarthFrog> You will have to do "sudo apt-get update" first, probably.
[18:31] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: No Kpackagekit does that when you hit apply
[18:31] <_Sophia> yes
[18:31] <_Sophia> already did update o_O
[18:31] <_Sophia> first thing
[18:31] <_Sophia> okay, now i have partitionmanager
[18:31] <_Sophia> will try to run it
[18:31] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: You can tell how often I use Kpackagekit. :-)
[18:32] <_Sophia> uh
[18:32] <_Sophia> Partition Manager , or , KDE Partition Manager
[18:32] <DarthFrog> Right.
[18:33] <Daskreech> _Sophia: KDE
[18:33] <Daskreech> Should be the same hopefully
[18:36] <_Sophia> k now what ;o
[18:38] <DarthFrog> What's your goal?  To shrink your Windows partition?
[18:38] <Daskreech> _Sophia: it's open?
[18:38] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: yes
[18:38] <_Sophia> the program is yes
[18:38] <_Sophia> and there is one 'device'
[18:38] <Daskreech> _Sophia: You can see your drive?
[18:38] <_Sophia> yes
[18:38] <Daskreech>  when ou click on it you get the partiation s on the right?
[18:38] <_Sophia> \dev\sda(0.91 TiB)
[18:38] <_Sophia> there is one partition ;o
[18:39] <_Sophia> \dev\sda1               ntfs                    0.91 TiB             0.00  Byte used
[18:39] <DarthFrog> Right click on it.
[18:40] <Daskreech> Resize
[18:40] <_Sophia> okay  now what lol
[18:40] <_Sophia> >_>!!
[18:41] <_Sophia> what i want is to give windows like 300 GB and Kubuntu the rest
[18:41] <_Sophia> welllll
[18:41] <DarthFrog> It should be straight-forward from here.
[18:41] <_Sophia> maybe  350, idk
[18:41] <_Sophia> well
[18:41] <_Sophia> 30 hours up
[18:41] <_Sophia> i'm retarded right now :d
[18:42] <DarthFrog> Get some sleep first!
[18:42] <_Sophia> lol no
[18:42] <DarthFrog> Not a good time to make a mistake.
[18:42] <_Sophia> i want to get this done
[18:42] <_Sophia> o.o
[18:42] <_Sophia> okay
[18:42] <_Sophia> so what happens when i reduce the size of sda1?
[18:42] <_Sophia> it frees up *undefined* space that i can make a partition in?
[18:42] <Daskreech> You put in 350GB?
[18:42] <DarthFrog> It gets smaller and frees up space for you to install Kubuntu.
[18:42] <Daskreech> _Sophia: yes
[18:43] <Daskreech> So you can click there and click new to make a new partition
[18:43] <_Sophia> so 350 gives like 550 of space
[18:43] <Daskreech> You want to make three partitions
[18:43] <_Sophia> so size goes to 350  GB?
[18:43] <_Sophia> yes?
[18:43] <_Sophia> why 3 btw
[18:43] <DarthFrog> Free up space behind Windows, not in front.
[18:43] <_Sophia> what
[18:43] <_Sophia> O_O
[18:43] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: No she doesnt'.  Don't make partitions, let the installer do swap, etc.
[18:43] <Daskreech> _Sophia: you can resize it so there is space behind windows or in front
[18:44] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: ok
[18:44] <_Sophia> so what should i do? -_-
[18:44] <Daskreech> _Sophia: Ok where are you now?
[18:44] <_Sophia> just on the sda1 screen
[18:44] <Daskreech>  did you resize Windows to what you want?
[18:44] <_Sophia> size 350 GB right? >_>
[18:44] <DarthFrog> How much free space will that leave you within Windows?  is that enough?
[18:45] <_Sophia> which is 350 * 1024 to get MB lol
[18:45] <_Sophia> uh
[18:45] <_Sophia> well
[18:45] <_Sophia> hard drive is supposed to be 1 tb
[18:45] <_Sophia> is 0.91 for some reason
[18:45] <_Sophia> damage maybe
[18:45] <Daskreech> _Sophia: formatting makes you lose space
[18:45] <DarthFrog> That's the 1000/.1024 diff.
[18:45] <_Sophia> meh
[18:45] <Daskreech>  well known in the HDD industry they just fail to mention it when you buy the drive
[18:45] <DarthFrog> Harddrive 1K=1000, everyone else, 1K=1024.
[18:45] <_Sophia> i know about that, for once
[18:45] <_Sophia> yay me
[18:45] <_Sophia> o.o
[18:46] <_Sophia> okay then, so
[18:46] <_Sophia> 350 GB is new size of sda1
[18:46] <_Sophia> now what, make new partition?
[18:46] <Daskreech> _Sophia: apply
[18:46] <DarthFrog> You can if you wish.  Or you can let the Kubuntu installer do it for you when you install Kubuntu.
[18:46] <_Sophia> wait
[18:46] <_Sophia> um
[18:47] <_Sophia> i'll let installer do it
[18:47] <_Sophia> but
[18:47] <_Sophia> should there be space *before*  the windows partition?
[18:47] <DarthFrog> Easier to let the Kubuntu installer do it for you.
[18:47] <_Sophia> i assumed as much
[18:47] <Daskreech> _Sophia: No
[18:47] <_Sophia> okay
[18:47] <_Sophia> making sure >.>
[18:47] <Daskreech> reading from left to right the first thing should be WIndows
[18:47] <DarthFrog> Otherwise you'll have to tell the installer where to install stuff. :-)
[18:47] <Daskreech>  then empty space
[18:48] <Daskreech> _Sophia: Let us know when you are ready
[18:49] <_Sophia> okay so now i have \dev\sda1 ntfs at 390 GiB, and unallocated/unknown at 540  GiB
[18:49] <DarthFrog> Bingo!
[18:49] <_Sophia> i have to hit apply though lol
[18:49] <_Sophia> is safe?
[18:50] <DarthFrog> Safe enough.  But will take a while.
[18:50] <_Sophia> i hit apply
[18:50] <_Sophia> uh
[18:50] <_Sophia> wow
[18:50] <_Sophia> 'there were errors while apply operations.  Aborted'
[18:50] <_Sophia> D:
[18:51] <DarthFrog> Lovely.
[18:51] <Daskreech> _Sophia: take a break
[18:51] <_Sophia> cluster accounting failed  224x
[18:51] <_Sophia> what :/
[18:51] <Daskreech> Get some rest. The drive needs love we can fix it another day
[18:52] <_Sophia> i want to install kubuntu though @_@
[18:52] <_Sophia> ERROR: NTFS is inconsistent. Run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot it TWICE!
[18:52] <_Sophia> is what it says rofl
[18:52] <Daskreech> _Sophia: that's what I said at teh start!
[18:52] <Daskreech> :-D
[18:52] <_Sophia> O_O
[18:52] <_Sophia> good for you, bad for me
[18:52] <Daskreech> _Sophia: You want to run that and go to sleep?
[18:52] <_Sophia> so my hard drive is messed up?
[18:53] <Daskreech> Might take an hour with 1TB
[18:53] <Daskreech> yes
[18:53] <Daskreech> Said that a long time ago :)
[18:53] <_Sophia> what exactly do i have to do?
[18:53] <_Sophia> >.>
[18:53] <DenverDave> greetings.. I have 2 sata drives and I want to setup dual boot. I have not mounted the windoze hd yet.. any links/pointers?
[18:53] <Daskreech> reboot into windows and open a command prompt
[18:53] <Daskreech> type chkdsk /f then go to sleep
[18:53] <DarthFrog> Run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot it TWICE!
[18:54] <_Sophia> i don't want sleep, i want kubuntu installed >.>
[18:54] <DarthFrog> Then reboot the LiveCD and go through all this again. :-)
[18:54] <_Sophia> LOL
[18:54] <_Sophia> jeez =S
[18:55] <Daskreech> _Sophia: Well if you want to stay up another three hours fine but if you run chkdsk /f then reboot and run it again till it comes back with no errors I think installing kubuntu should be super eeasy after that
[18:55] <DarthFrog> _Sophia: Boot into Windows.  Open an MS-DOS command prompt.  Type "chkdsk /f".  Reboot Windows twice.
[18:55] <Daskreech> but that chkdsk takes a while so sleep while it does it
[18:55] <Daskreech> staying up doesn't get Kubuntu installed much faster and you need to rest
[18:56] <DarthFrog> DenverDave: If you run "grub-install <boot device>" it should detect your Windows installation (no need to mount it) and set it up to boot from GRUB.
[18:56] <Daskreech> I know I've done this more times than I'm proud to relate
[18:57] <DarthFrog> DenverDave:  Actually, the command will be "sudo grub-install <boot device>". :-)
[18:57] <Daskreech> _Sophia: it's not giving up :) it's just part of the process
[18:58] <DenverDave> DarthFrog: and that will be ok with a windoze xp separate sata hd?
[18:58] <DarthFrog> DenverDave: It's how I've got things set up.  Works ferpectly.
[18:58] <_Sophia> rational, when can i time doing the chkdsk thing so i can be on here when i can get halp? ;d
[18:58] <DenverDave> DarthFrog: roger that :) trying that now
[18:59] <DenverDave> DarthFrog: dumb question but what boot device should I use??
[19:00] <Aamuterasu> hmm..
[19:00] <Daskreech> _Sophia: I'm on as much as I can be
[19:00] <Aamuterasu> how do i join into ircnet?
[19:00] <Daskreech> But I don't see much problems if the chkdsk fixes the drive
[19:00] <Aamuterasu> i cant use konversation ;__;
[19:00] <Daskreech> Aamuterasu: you can
[19:00] <Daskreech> press F2
[19:00] <DenverDave> Aamuterasu: im using it now :)
[19:00] <Daskreech> _Sophia: But say 6 hours?
[19:01] <Aamuterasu> Okay, but what i should do next?
[19:01] <Daskreech> add in the ircnet
[19:01] <DenverDave> DarthFrog: should i put the grub-install on my ubuntu disk like sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 yes?
[19:02] <Aamuterasu> i somehow get the feeling that only putting ircnet into the server spot is not enough
[19:03] <Aamuterasu> ] [Info] Looking for server ircnet (port 6667) ...
[19:03] <Aamuterasu> and then it doesn't find it.. I'm sorry to bother you like this but uhh
[19:03] <Aamuterasu> this is the only irc channel or network i can get into..
[19:04] <DenverDave> Aamuterasu: firewall?
[19:04] <Daskreech> Aamuterasu: Look on ircnet's webpage for the server name (possibly port number)
[19:04] <Aamuterasu> i'll come back later if i can't find anything.. Thanks!
[19:07] <DarthFrog> DenverDave: Not /dev/sda1 but /dev/sda.
[19:08] <DarthFrog> DenverDave: sda1 is a partition, sda will put it into the MBR.
[19:08] <DarthFrog> DenverDave: You can put it into sda1 if you want to set up the Windows boot loader to boot Ubuntu.  Or sda if you want GRUB to boot Windows.  Either works.
[19:10] <DenverDave> DarthFrog: and you have 2 sata disks that you can dual boot to as well?
[19:11] <pider> how to fix the big and ugly logo kubuntu, I have nvidia graf card
[19:12] <DarthFrog> DenverDave: Yes, sda and sdb.
[19:12] <DenverDave> DarthFrog: cool let me install on sda now and see where that leads me :)
[19:13] <DenverDave> DarthFrog: installed with no errors
[19:13] <BluesKaj> pider,  right click on the desktop choose desktop settings ,then "get new wallpapers'
[19:14] <DarthFrog> DenverDave:  So the next time you reboot, you'll see the choices listed in /boot/grub/grub.conf displayed.
[19:14] <DarthFrog> BTW, don't edit that file by hand. :-)
[19:14] <DenverDave> DarthFrog: ok then.. let me reboot and check it out brb
[19:15] <pider> I mean the login logo
[19:15] <Aamuterasu> Somehow i get the feeling that i only make things hard for myself
[19:16] <Aamuterasu> it should not have been that hard to get into IRCnet ;__;
[19:16] <Guest4141> DarthFrog: nope no choice just booted right to ubuntu
[19:18] <DarthFrog> pider:  System Settings/System Administration/Login Screen
[19:18] <DarthFrog> Guest65528 = DenverDave???
[19:18] <DenverDave> DarthFrog: yes
[19:19] <DarthFrog> DenverDave: Did a GRUB boot screen come up?
[19:20] <DenverDave> DarthFrog: negative
[19:20] <DarthFrog> DenverDave: Is /dev/sda set up in your BIOS to be the boot drive?
[19:21] <DenverDave> DarthFrog: yes
[19:21] <DarthFrog> DenverDave: Is there a Windows stanza (at the bottom) in /boot/grub/grub.conf?
[19:22] <DarthFrog> Oops, that should be grub.cfg.
[19:34] <DenverDave> DarthFrog: sorry wfh today and customer called.. I have the grub.cfn open now.. checking
[19:36] <DenverDave> DarthFrog: there are no menuentry lines with windows all just linux kernel choices
[19:37] <Daskreech> http://www.somethingofthatilk.com/index.php?id=156
[19:41] <daniel586> hola a todos..
[19:41] <daniel586> hablan español
[19:41] <daniel586> o me equivoque de canal??
[19:42] <genii-around> !es
[19:44] <BluesKaj> DenverDave,  youwere asking abut ircnet ? if so to join one of their servers , type /server ircnet.eversible.com then /join #nameofchat in the server textbox
[19:45] <DenverDave> BluesKaj: no I was trying to help someone :) I am trying to get my windoze sata HD to be listed in grub.cnf
[19:45] <daniel586> ok thanks ubottu..
[19:46] <daniel586> ;)
[19:46] <BluesKaj> ok DenverDave , i misread , sorry
[19:46] <DenverDave> BluesKaj: its cool
[19:46] <DenverDave> changing nicks now
[19:47] <pider> It is det Kubuntu logo in loginscreen, it is the one with text: Kubuntu and three/four dots blinling undet the text
[19:48] <MileHiDave> DarthFrog: changed nicks from DenverDave to MileHiDave
[19:48] <DarthFrog> MileHiDave: How do you boot Windows now?
[19:50] <MileHiDave> DarthFrog: I will have to unplug the ubuntu HD
[19:50] <MileHiDave> as it is 2nd in my bios boot order
[19:50] <BluesKaj> pider, systemsettings/loginscreen/theme/get new themes :)
[19:50] <DarthFrog> MileHiDave:  You shouldn't have to do that, just set the Windows drive to be first in the BIOS boot order.
[19:51] <MileHiDave> DarthFrog: ok but then I boot to windows only..right?
[19:51] <DarthFrog> Yes.
[19:51] <DarthFrog> And resetting the boot order will allow you to boot Kubuntu again.
[19:51] <MileHiDave> ok bbiab thx
[20:08] <pider> I install login themes, but they do not show up
[20:09] <BluesKaj> pider,  open and close system settings
[20:10] <pider> no themes
[20:10] <pider> but default
[20:11] <dacresni> does the folder view widget still exist in kde4.6?
[20:11] <Snowhog> dacresni: It does here.
[20:12] <dacresni> u added the kubuntu ppa to ubuntu 10.10
[20:12] <dacresni> perhaps its in a package
[20:12] <dacresni> i already downloaded kdeplazma-addons
[20:12] <Snowhog> dacresni: I'm using the default repos for my Natty 11.04 installation.
[20:13] <dacresni> thats kind of disingenuous
[20:13] <dacresni> cause its non standard
[20:13] <dacresni> (we can't expect everyone to run beta )
[20:14] <dacresni> anyway, does anyone know where i might get it?
[20:14] <Snowhog> dacresni: What I mean, is that I've not made any repo changes to what was made available when I installed Natty 11.04.
[20:14] <pider> look at this, it is installed but it does not show in next <a href='http://bildr.no/view/843308'>http://bildr.no/view/843308</a>
[20:15] <pider> <a href='http://bildr.no/view/843312'>http://bildr.no/view/843312</a>
[20:17] <BluesKaj> pider,  yeah samee thing here , the themes are supposed to be installed but don't show up..a bug I guess :(
[20:18] <pider> ok, have to wait for a bug fix then?
[20:18] <BluesKaj> maybe an update
[20:21] <dacresni> perhaps it morphed into the shelf
[20:22] <ionut> anyone knows a good web scrapper ?
[20:22] <pider> I tried this, but it wouldn't work http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[20:23] <dustin> thanks darksreech/taiga/brightspark for all your help :)
[20:24] <Daskreech> dustin: Great
[20:25] <dacresni> found it, its in the package manager
[20:25] <dacresni> because no one would want that right? ...
[20:26] <dustin> works nice
[20:26] <dustin> thanks alot you guys
[20:26] <dustin> now for the long process of codeing lol
[20:28] <Snowhog> ionut: You can use wget (command line) to download websites. See http://linuxreviews.org/quicktips/wget/
[20:41] <rohdef> hey, how do I change my computers hostname?
[20:43] <rohdef> without editing /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname manually preferable, could do it, but from a novice user that isn't acceptable :p
[20:43] <DarthFrog> rohdef:  sudo hostname <newhostname>
[20:43] <rohdef> not optimal but better
[20:43] <rohdef> doesn't KDE have a UI tool for it
[20:44] <rohdef> *GUI
[20:44] <DarthFrog> rohdef: There may be but I prefer the CLI personally.  So I've not looked for one.
[20:44] <DarthFrog> rohdef: If there was a GUI method, I imagine it'll be in System Settings.
[20:45] <rohdef> tbh. so do I but I like to know the GUI tools, since my sister don't tend to agree with me :p
[20:46] <rohdef> DarthFrog, can I use hostname for the top level domain to, so I could change it too.. let's say laptop.rohdef (or whatever I want)?
[20:47] <DarthFrog> rohdef:  "man hostname".  :-)
[20:47] <DarthFrog> !hostname
[20:48] <rohdef> although I like cli, I'm not a major fan of man pages :p
[20:49] <DarthFrog> rohdef:  If the info you want is in a man page and you know about man pages and can read them, ....
[20:50] <DarthFrog> Use xman if you prefer a GUI.  :-)
[20:50] <rohdef> could also google them, usually it prefer wiki pages over man, when I got the documentation on a wiki that is
[21:00] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: What?
[21:00] <Daskreech> No man no!
[21:00] <Daskreech> alt+f2 -> man:hostname
[21:00] <DarthFrog> Ooh, neat.  Thanks.
[21:01] <DarthFrog> Gotta love kioslaves.
[21:05] <Daskreech> I don't have to
[21:05]  * Daskreech gets slapped by ubottu
[21:06] <Daskreech> Ok I'm sorry Yes I do have to. My apologies to all who might have thought they could get away without Kioslave love
[21:44] <leimy> I was wondering how the process was for creating kubuntu as an ubuntu derivative. Was it just a remastering with different packages situation, or was there a lot of customization to packages?  Is there some kind of build system that one can use to sort of get source packages built into a CD image?
[21:49] <Daskreech> leimy: what are you trying to find out?
[21:49] <gnomeshellogger> leimy: kubuntu is not a derivate, neither is it remastered
[21:49] <leimy> gnomeshellogger: ok well that's not what ubuntu claims :-)
[21:50] <gnomeshellogger> huh?
[21:50] <Daskreech> leimy: do you mean #ubuntu ?
[21:50] <Daskreech> Because the Ubuntu website doesn't say anything of that sort
[21:50] <leimy> No I mean ubuntu claims kubuntu is an ubuntu derivative
[21:51] <leimy> oh it's all over the place let me get you some links :-)
[21:51] <rohdef> DarthFrog, still here?
[21:51] <leimy> The one page has been pulled but there's a google cache
[21:52] <gnomeshellogger> ...
[21:52] <leimy> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:x0v8QNFyhzAJ:https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DerivativeDistroHowto+Kubuntu+is+a+derivative&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=ubuntu&source=www.google.com
[21:52] <gnomeshellogger> that is as good as steve ballmer saying it :P
[21:52] <leimy> See kinds of derivative distros... you'll see kubuntu.
[21:53] <leimy> That's actually besides the point, what I'm really interested in is not how Kubuntu is classified but sort of how the release building process for Kubuntu works.
[21:53] <gnomeshellogger> please read the sentence
[21:53] <gnomeshellogger> by that definition ubuntu desktop edition is a derivate
[21:53] <leimy> "Deriving from distribution can be done on many different levels, depending what are exactly your needs and reasons for creating derivative distros. Ubuntu recognizes the following types of derivative distros: "
[21:53] <gnomeshellogger> so is ubuntu server
[21:53] <gnomeshellogger> ...
[21:53] <leimy> right
[21:53] <leimy> and JeOS
[21:53] <leimy> they call them all derivatives
[21:53] <gnomeshellogger> no we do not
[21:53] <leimy> I don't see why this is controversial :-)
[21:54] <Daskreech> leimy: this is a discussion for #ubuntu-devel or #kubuntu-devel
[21:54] <Daskreech> join either one
[21:54] <Daskreech> They will give you links to the build process
[21:55] <rohdef> how do I change the local domain from ".local" to ".whatever"?
[21:57] <rohdef> thought it would be quite straight forward, but google gives me all sorts of pages on /etc/hostname etc, which seems to be useless for that particular task or pages giving workarounds to avahi and telling to ask the sysadmin to change it (wow, here I am, what about telling me how to change it :p )
[22:08] <fabio> ciao
[22:09] <Daskreech> hi fabio
[22:09] <fabio> hi
[22:09] <fabio> where are you from
[22:12] <Daskreech> The interenetz
[22:25] <vit> hola
[22:26] <vit> hello
[23:22] <gedas> hey guys
[23:23] <gedas> i have a problem, again....
[23:23] <james147> !ask | gedas
[23:23] <gedas> !ask pspp does not work in kde
[23:24] <james147> pspp?
[23:24] <gedas> you are never as inteligent as should be
[23:24] <gedas> pspp statistical software
[23:24] <gedas> alternative to spss
[23:25] <james147> gedas: why dosnt it work? what goes wrong?
[23:25] <gedas> james, it installs itself well
[23:25] <gedas> once opened quicklt closes
[23:26] <gedas> quickly*
[23:26] <james147> run it in a terminal, see if it give you any info
[23:26] <gedas> the thing is it was built for GNU i think
[23:29] <gedas> terminal says that i can distribute it
[23:29] <gedas> thats it
[23:30] <gedas> seems to be working
[23:30] <gedas> yet, i'd like to have an interface which is still missing
[23:36] <gedas> well
[23:37] <gedas> i guess i'll have to emerge my self in surfing answers
[23:51] <george_> hello! I'm running kubuntu 10.10 on a intel inspiron i3 integrated graphics. Opengl composition does'nt work properly. Any way to fix it? Thans in advance.
[23:58] <alyen> hey - jest ktos piszacy po polsku?