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| XorA | morning | 08:41 |
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| flag_ | guys, anyone know how to preserve a working serial console after framebuffer start? | 10:02 |
| flag_ | ogra: do you know how i can preserve a working serial console even after the framebuffer start? | 10:25 |
| ogra | preserve ? | 10:26 |
| flag_ | flag_: yep, when the framebuffer starts, my console dies and i have to switch to my monitor to see what's going on | 10:30 |
| ogra | you should get all boot messages if you set the cmdline to point to serial and drop the "quiet" from the cmdline | 10:31 |
| ogra | just edit /boot/boot.script and run sudo flash-kernel | 10:31 |
| flag_ | ogra: and what if one the variable in my uboot environment is longer than 80 chars? on do i print it in its entirety? | 10:36 |
| ogra | you editor should display it fine | 10:37 |
| flag_ | no no | 10:38 |
| flag_ | i mean, i'm in uboot and i try to "printenv $var" | 10:38 |
| flag_ | but the content of var is longer than 80chars | 10:38 |
| flag_ | thus it's truncated | 10:38 |
| ogra | there is only the hardcoded env (which just loads the boot.scr file) you will have to change a lot if you dont just edit boot.scr | 10:41 |
| ogra | so printenv wont get you very far | 10:41 |
| ogra | if it cuts off after 80 chars thats an issue with your terminal program | 10:41 |
| ogra | or with the TERM variable you use | 10:41 |
| flag_ | ogra: i'm using minicom | 10:43 |
| ogra | well, i'd really recommend to rather change your boot.scr than to poke around in the uboot env | 10:45 |
| flag_ | ogra: ok, deleted quiet from bootargs in boot.scr, but still my console dies after: | 11:26 |
| flag_ | ogra: Starting kernel ... | 11:26 |
| flag_ | Uncompressing Linux........................................................................................................................................................................................... | 11:26 |
| ogra | <ogra> you should get all boot messages if you set the cmdline to point to serial and drop the "quiet" from the cmdline | 11:26 |
| flag_ | ogra: setenv bootargs root=UUID=e18764f5-7859-4509-gj48-bbcc01a1ff77 ro splash | 11:26 |
| ogra | did you set the cmdline to point to the serial terminal ? | 11:27 |
| flag_ | ogra: bootargs=console=ttyS0,115200n8 root=UUID=54ec8187-d25e-413a-ac5b-99af9cc379fc (from u-boot) | 11:28 |
| ogra | is it like that in your boot.scr ? | 11:28 |
| flag_ | ogra: bootargs in u-boot and boot.scr should match, right? | 11:30 |
| flag_ | ogra: ah, got it | 11:30 |
| flag_ | ogra: my bad, there was no console= in /boot/boot.scr but only in u-boot bootargs and i thought the kernel picked the console variable from u-boot | 11:34 |
| ogra | no, as i said above the u-boot stuff is totally irrelevant | 11:35 |
| ogra | its overriden as soon as boot.scr was loaded | 11:35 |
| flag_ | ogra: k, thanks | 11:39 |
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| hrw | heh.. I forgot how long can arm system need to upgrade.. | 12:16 |
| ogra | heh | 12:17 |
| ogra | i did an ac100 update-manager upgrade over the weekend | 12:17 |
| ogra | took 36h | 12:17 |
| ogra | though on a very slow SD card | 12:17 |
| hrw | apt-get dist-upgrade from alpha3 to current - started >1h ago on sd | 12:17 |
| hrw | ogra: I reinstalled all packages on my dualcore atom in ~30 minutes. on 60MB/s sata | 12:18 |
| ogra | hmm | 12:28 |
| ogra | who fired off a netbook buid | 12:28 |
| ogra | *build | 12:28 |
| ogra | oh, not netbook, headless | 12:29 |
| hrw | http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/379549/calxeda_arm_chips_designed_480-core_servers/ - want one ;D | 12:46 |
| amitk | hrw: you can try convincing Rob or Martyn in Budapest | 12:51 |
| hrw | amitk: calxeda people? | 12:51 |
| amitk | hrw: yeah, you might know them as smoothstone people from previous UDSes | 12:52 |
| hrw | ah, right | 12:53 |
| hrw | the company which changes names | 12:53 |
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| ogra_ | k, finally unity-2d on ac100 | 13:13 |
| hrw | you did not had it before? | 13:19 |
| ogra_ | we didnt have neon runtime detection in QT | 13:19 |
| hrw | ah, right | 13:19 |
| ogra_ | and after that i had to find out that the natty libc doesnt woork on tegra2 | 13:20 |
| hrw | o.. hows that? | 13:20 |
| ogra_ | http://gitorious.org/ac100/kernel/commit/227af643e6253e9a5c2a2f74468f855686c44117?diffmode=sidebyside | 13:20 |
| ogra_ | see #linaro, was just discussed there | 13:20 |
| XorA | time to blag a ac100 now then :-D | 13:21 |
| ogra_ | unity-2d is really snappy here | 13:21 |
| * hrw -> lunch | 13:23 | |
| ogra_ | janimo, poke | 14:25 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: cool, so new qt really worked well for you? | 14:26 |
| ogra_ | yep | 14:26 |
| ogra_ | currently using it afer i spent the whole weekend to get natty running | 14:26 |
| rsalveti | nice | 14:26 |
| janimo | ogra_, hello | 14:27 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: did you find what were the issues? | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | libc is really badly broken on the ac100 | 14:27 |
| rsalveti | you said you had many issues last week | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | someone pointed me to http://gitorious.org/ac100/kernel/commit/227af643e6253e9a5c2a2f74468f855686c44117?diffmode=sidebyside | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | i'm currently running with the maverick libc pinned | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | janimo, so did you test headless ? | 14:27 |
| janimo | ogra_, not yet | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | seems we have a bunch of issues with oem-config/ubiquity | 14:28 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: ouch, got it | 14:28 |
| janimo | was trying tosee why images fail | 14:28 |
| janimo | ogra_, I saw you made some changes around oem-config/upstrart last week | 14:28 |
| ogra_ | janimo, the oem-config UI never comes up on serial | 14:28 |
| ogra_ | unless no tty exists at all | 14:28 |
| ogra_ | (i.e. it immediately works if i use a broken omapfb mode so ttys cant be started) | 14:29 |
| ogra_ | i suspect ubiquity/oem-config simply has no code for that and uses the first console it finds | 14:29 |
| ogra_ | the second big bug i see is that no user is created at all | 14:30 |
| janimo | what would a fix be? We need to keep ttys I think | 14:30 |
| ogra_ | no idea yet | 14:30 |
| ogra_ | i would suggest looking at d-i how it determines the used console | 14:30 |
| ogra_ | if werial is set we should defautl to use it i think | 14:30 |
| janimo | ok | 14:31 |
| ogra_ | effectively it doesnt seem like oem-config finishes its job | 14:31 |
| ogra_ | the most funny part is that the debconf package removal that runs afterrrr oem-config defaults to serial | 14:31 |
| janimo | so right now one can log in but even if oem-config is started by hand it does not run | 14:31 |
| janimo | ? | 14:31 |
| ogra_ | oem-config runs fine | 14:31 |
| ogra_ | but on tty1 | 14:32 |
| ogra_ | while it takes input from serial (since the kernel defaults to it as first console) | 14:32 |
| ogra_ | i can use my laptop kbd to fiddle with oem-config on the panda dvi screen | 14:32 |
| ogra_ | :) | 14:32 |
| ogra_ | it seems to just not use the right output | 14:33 |
| janimo | besides oem-config what else is broken? | 14:33 |
| ogra_ | i havent found ut why we dont have build attempts since three days (ampty mails usually suggest that the connection to the image builder failed= | 14:33 |
| ogra_ | well, oem-config doesnt create a user at all atm | 14:34 |
| janimo | ogra_, telepathy-glib FTBFS (regression) which holds up empathy | 14:34 |
| ogra_ | janimo, shouldnt affect headless at all | 14:34 |
| janimo | ogra_, indeed | 14:34 |
| ogra_ | we get empty build failure mails and i see no logs at all on the imagebuilder | 14:34 |
| janimo | who can debug that? | 14:35 |
| ogra_ | someone has changed livecd-rootfs or debian-cd ... or the ssh connection from cdimage to the image builder is broken | 14:35 |
| * ogra_ will research that | 14:35 | |
| ogra_ | so there was one change in livecd-rootf that only affects edubuntu | 14:40 |
| * ogra_ cant see any changes that could have made our builds fail | 14:42 | |
| ogra_ | lets try a manual build | 14:42 |
| ogra_ | seems to run flawless | 14:52 |
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| ogra_ | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/daily-preinstalled/20110314/ | 15:32 |
| ogra_ | hmm, worked fine | 15:32 |
| ogra_ | janimo, ^^^ | 15:41 |
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| GrueMaster | ogra_, janimo: It still has issue with oem-config. The program is displaying the user interactive screens on the attached monitor, but only taking input via serial console. | 17:27 |
| GrueMaster | ubuntu | 17:27 |
| GrueMaster | oops | 17:27 |
| GrueMaster | It also failed to create a user. May be due to no network. Not sure. | 17:32 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, yes, as discussed above | 17:35 |
| GrueMaster | Bugs filed? | 17:35 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, fi you give a broken frambuffer setting it works (i.e. if ttyS/O is the only console around) | 17:35 |
| ogra_ | and the debconf bits after oem-config are on serial too | 17:36 |
| ogra_ | oem-config was simply never used on serial i think | 17:36 |
| ogra_ | so we are the first ones to face these issues | 17:36 |
| ogra_ | no bugs filed yet, no | 17:37 |
| GrueMaster | I do see something interesting in the /var/log/oem-config.log. It has an error open: /dev/tty not found. | 17:37 |
| ogra_ | oh really ? | 17:37 |
| GrueMaster | I'll file a bug soon. Flashing another SD to try on beagleXM. | 17:37 |
| ogra_ | k | 17:37 |
| ogra_ | it worked fine for me with the old kernel btw | 17:38 |
| GrueMaster | But it is near the end of the log (after other activity). | 17:38 |
| ogra_ | because the omapfb setting completely broke the framebuffer | 17:38 |
| GrueMaster | Also, it failed to create a user, but that may be due to lack of network. | 17:38 |
| ogra_ | unlikely | 17:38 |
| ogra_ | wither we dont call all modules from the debconf frontend or what i suspect is my hack to rename the machine to localhost by default is bad | 17:39 |
| GrueMaster | Hey, I find unlikely bugs all the time. I'm good at it, remember? :P | 17:39 |
| ogra_ | heh, yeah | 17:39 |
| ogra_ | but i really doubt missing network has anything to do with it | 17:39 |
| GrueMaster | Same here, but I have seen weirder issues. | 17:40 |
| TheUni | rsalveti: ping | 18:31 |
| TheUni | rsalveti: i've begun cleaning xbmc's packaging and install scripts. it would be nice to have a mentor that i could speak with about best practices. know of anyone who might be willing/able to help? | 18:32 |
| rsalveti | TheUni: I can try to help on that | 18:32 |
| rsalveti | persia would be the best guy around for that | 18:33 |
| rsalveti | he knows a lot about packaging | 18:33 |
| rsalveti | TheUni: is it still the packaging tree? | 18:33 |
| TheUni | yes | 18:33 |
| TheUni | i have some work done locally to begin consolidating packages, but i'd like to know that i'm making things better and not worse | 18:34 |
| rsalveti | TheUni: and how is the daily builds, did you manage to get it to work? | 18:34 |
| TheUni | rsalveti: yes, daily builds are up. but they're not publicized yet because i'd like to rework the packages first | 18:34 |
| rsalveti | oh, ok | 18:34 |
| TheUni | incase we end up causing some conflicts while shifting things around | 18:34 |
| TheUni | https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/unstable | 18:35 |
| rsalveti | TheUni: at the moment it seems you're building for arm | 18:35 |
| rsalveti | at least Architecture: i386 amd64 powerpc ppc64 | 18:36 |
| rsalveti | is that because of the daily builds? | 18:36 |
| rsalveti | cool | 18:36 |
| TheUni | rsalveti: simply because we haven't tackled packaging it yet | 18:36 |
| TheUni | but afaik current git is building/working on beagle | 18:38 |
| rsalveti | TheUni: cool, nice to know | 18:38 |
| TheUni | rsalveti: ok, i'll work up a list of questions and hand them off to you. you can pass me along if you'd like :) | 18:38 |
| rsalveti | some XBMC_CONFIG_OPTIONS would be arch specific, as for ARM we'd like to have gles support, and not gl and vdpau | 18:39 |
| rsalveti | TheUni: sure | 18:39 |
| TheUni | right | 18:40 |
| TheUni | gles is default for arm | 18:40 |
| rsalveti | but it does seems to be better | 18:40 |
| GrueMaster | Not sure what changed, but unity-2d-places is less than usable in the 20110311 image. Can't even get to a terminal without crashing. | 19:47 |
| pmathews | s/hanf/hang/ | 19:47 |
| GrueMaster | pmathews: ??? | 19:48 |
| prpplague | GrueMaster: wrong wide post | 19:50 |
| prpplague | GrueMaster: that was for me | 19:50 |
| GrueMaster | ah | 19:50 |
| pmathews | oops | 19:58 |
| prpplague | kgilmer: you still working for bug? | 19:59 |
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| kgilmer | hi prpplague, yep sure am. | 22:10 |
| prpplague | kgilmer: just ran across a post on linuxdevices, and just reminded me to ask | 22:12 |
| prpplague | kgilmer: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Bug-Labs-BugSecure/ | 22:13 |
| kgilmer | yep, that's our next bug version. | 22:14 |
| prpplague | kgilmer: don't suppose you guys are looking into omap4? | 22:15 |
| kgilmer | the pb chip is pretty cool | 22:15 |
| prpplague | kgilmer: i was curious about the pb chip | 22:15 |
| prpplague | kgilmer: i have heard that pb does a lot of cool designs that they keep pretty quiet about | 22:16 |
| kgilmer | sorry prpplague, in support crisis mode for a demo atm, got to get back to you later. | 22:17 |
| prpplague | kgilmer: np, later bud | 22:18 |
| prpplague | kgilmer: i understand all too well | 22:18 |
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