| hot_wheelz | hi guys | 09:24 |
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| hot_wheelz | apparently the are movie playing applications that will query a db now for BD discs in order to play them correct? | 09:26 |
| Adbuntu | hi | 10:12 |
| ikt | hey | 10:14 |
| ikt | heya schnoodles | 10:41 |
| * ikt times out | 12:41 | |
| ikt | http://ikt.id.au/blog/2011/03/14/ubuntu-11-04-countdown-buttonscript-and-a-story/ | 12:41 |
| * ikt is very productive with his time | 12:42 | |
| dkg779 | heya, was wondering if anyone was available to help me with something ? | 14:33 |
| ikt | sup dkg779 ? | 14:45 |
| dkg779 | basically I have a few songs from the searchers a 1960's band on .flv that I can't seem to buy and I am wondering how to convert them to audio or .mp3 for the car cd player | 14:47 |
| ikt | upload to youtube then: http://www.youtube-mp3.org/ | 14:49 |
| dkg779 | ok, thanks ikt | 14:51 |
| ikt | :> | 14:52 |
| ikt | it's a pretty slack way though | 14:52 |
| ikt | there might be a guide out there for using mplayer command line to convert or something | 14:53 |
| ikt | i cbf | 14:53 |
| dkg779 | kk fair enough lol | 14:53 |
| redvil | how do you 'repair' an app that's been 'incompletely' installed? | 22:23 |
| redvil | how do you 'purge' it? | 22:23 |
| redvil | need help on removing incompletely installed software | 22:34 |
| redvil | already done 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' but still wont uninstall | 22:35 |
| head_victim | redvil: "sudo apt-get purge package" is how to purge | 22:35 |
| redvil | head_victim: will try it now | 22:35 |
| nisshh | redvil, if that doesnt work, pastebin the output | 22:36 |
| nisshh | redvil, btw, how old are you? | 22:36 |
| nisshh | if you dont mind me asking | 22:36 |
| redvil | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 22:38 |
| redvil | nisshh: im 30 and i do mind you asking :D | 22:38 |
| nisshh | hehe | 22:39 |
| redvil | old age doesnt come with wisdom like some people say unfortunately..:D | 22:39 |
| nisshh | no, experience does | 22:40 |
| nisshh | not age | 22:40 |
| nisshh | its just older people tend to have more experience | 22:40 |
| redvil | in my case it's not with computers | 22:40 |
| nisshh | i dont think wisdom is topic based | 22:41 |
| nisshh | i think knowledge is | 22:41 |
| redvil | anyone here got Skype on their computer? can't seem to install the bloddy thing | 22:41 |
| nisshh | but wisdom applies to everything | 22:41 |
| nisshh | redvil, how are you trying to install it? | 22:41 |
| redvil | nisshh: through software center | 22:42 |
| redvil | installed it last night but didnt finish | 22:42 |
| redvil | now i tried purging it but still won't work | 22:42 |
| redvil | wait..i'll give it another go | 22:42 |
| nisshh | ok | 22:43 |
| redvil | won't even let me remove it..'Package operation failed' | 22:44 |
| nisshh | redvil, can you pastebin the entire output of your terminal to: pastebin.ubuntu.com | 22:45 |
| nisshh | that way i know what commands your running | 22:46 |
| redvil | nisshh: im not using terminal..using software centre..don't know how to remove it through CLI | 22:46 |
| nisshh | didnt you run the purge command head_victim gave you? | 22:47 |
| nisshh | the only way to know for sure whats wrong is to use the terminal | 22:47 |
| nisshh | the software center will give you a very unhelpful dpkg error usually | 22:47 |
| nisshh | because it doesnt want to confuse newbies | 22:48 |
| redvil | http://paste.ubuntu.com/580343/ | 22:48 |
| nisshh | redvil, ok, try this in the terminal: sudo apt-get install skype | 22:48 |
| nisshh | redvil, if that doesnt work, pastebin the output | 22:49 |
| redvil | nisshh: done | 22:50 |
| nisshh | redvil, it worked? | 22:50 |
| head_victim | redvil: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall skype" | 22:51 |
| redvil | got it now.. | 22:51 |
| redvil | just wondering why it won't install using the software centre | 22:52 |
| * nisshh refrains from complaining about shiny GUI's | 22:52 | |
| * redvil really needs to learn installing through CLI | 22:52 | |
| head_victim | Were there any problems when you tried to install it the first time? Net dropout, power surge, etc? | 22:52 |
| redvil | head_victim: none that i know of.. | 22:53 |
| head_victim | nisshh: it wasn't the program's fault we couldn't interpret the error because we haven't used it much. | 22:53 |
| head_victim | Just because you're more familiar with cli doesn't mean the gui is broken. | 22:53 |
| nisshh | head_victim, ive got that error before, but not from the software center | 22:53 |
| head_victim | redvil: fair enough, they were the ones I could think of off the top of my head. | 22:53 |
| nisshh | head_victim, i know, i just really, really hate GUI's :) | 22:53 |
| head_victim | nisshh: that's just because you have a POS computer that can't run GUIs ;) | 22:54 |
| nisshh | hah, so not true :| | 22:54 |
| redvil | yeah nisshh | 22:54 |
| nisshh | head_victim, i just use the CLI so often now i cant stand the restrictiveness of GUI's | 22:54 |
| head_victim | Now to find out how the hell I track down the cause of my keyboard and mouse input hanging for minutes at a time. | 22:54 |
| redvil | what's POS anyway? lol | 22:54 |
| nisshh | even when i get my quad core, i will still be using the CLI just as much | 22:55 |
| head_victim | nisshh: depends on what you're doing, guis have their place and so do cli | 22:55 |
| nisshh | redvil, not something that should be said in this channel :) | 22:55 |
| redvil | nisshh: i think i get it now | 22:55 |
| nisshh | hehe | 22:55 |
| redvil | Point Of Sale? :D | 22:55 |
| nisshh | heh, no | 22:56 |
| redvil | i know..just kidding | 22:56 |
| nisshh | heh | 22:56 |
| redvil | what i usually say to noisy neighbour's kid..little POS | 22:56 |
| nisshh | head_victim, see that bright, welcoming, comforting looking light in the distance? thats the CLI :) | 22:56 |
| head_victim | nisshh: I use cli for some stuff, gui for others | 22:57 |
| redvil | GUI especially for me | 22:57 |
| nisshh | so do i :) | 22:57 |
| redvil | i use CLI only for irssi and some rare 'sudo' moments | 22:58 |
| head_victim | I much rather a gui for web browsing, irc clients, file browsing and media players. | 22:59 |
| nisshh | the only GUI app i run is firefox | 22:59 |
| redvil | head_victim: same here | 22:59 |
| nisshh | nothing else | 22:59 |
| redvil | nisshh: you're too hardcore for me :D | 22:59 |
| head_victim | redvil: he's too hard core for himself ;) | 22:59 |
| redvil | lols | 23:00 |
| nisshh | *sniff* am not | 23:00 |
| nisshh | :0 | 23:00 |
| redvil | or was it quadcore...lol | 23:00 |
| redvil | it's okay to chat this way on this channel right? | 23:01 |
| nisshh | well, we arent supposed to really | 23:01 |
| nisshh | redvil, if it turns social, we should move it to -chat | 23:01 |
| redvil | just notice the channel name just now that's why i asked | 23:01 |
| redvil | *noticed | 23:02 |
| nisshh | yeah | 23:02 |
| redvil | another question: is chrome and chromium from the same maker? | 23:03 |
| nisshh | heh, no | 23:04 |
| nisshh | redvil, chromium is the open source, non-google developed version of chrome | 23:04 |
| redvil | ok | 23:04 |
| nisshh | redvil, if your asking which one to use, use chromium | 23:05 |
| nisshh | its easier to install and maintain | 23:05 |
| redvil | chrome=google; chromium=open source | 23:05 |
| redvil | nisshh: that's what i've been using since i used linux.. | 23:05 |
| nisshh | thats right | 23:05 |
| nisshh | chrome? | 23:05 |
| nisshh | or chromium? | 23:05 |
| redvil | chromium | 23:05 |
| nisshh | ah right | 23:05 |
| redvil | and firefox as well | 23:06 |
| nisshh | i switched back to firefox, since chromium is a RAM hog | 23:06 |
| head_victim | How much ram was it using? | 23:06 |
| redvil | and it's not good for watching youtube videos anymore | 23:06 |
| nisshh | like 0.5GB's | 23:06 |
| nisshh | which is not much if you have lots of RAM | 23:06 |
| nisshh | but i only have a GB | 23:06 |
| redvil | i only have 715MB | 23:07 |
| nisshh | wow | 23:07 |
| nisshh | i bet you cant run Unity | 23:07 |
| head_victim | I've found chromium to be much quicker than ff3.6 on this Lubuntu install. | 23:07 |
| nisshh | head_victim, im using 4.0, its much quicker than 3.6 | 23:07 |
| redvil | nisshh: i dont even know what that is | 23:07 |
| head_victim | I don't even run gnome on p4s | 23:07 |
| nisshh | head_victim, well, mine is a bit more powerful than your average P4, since my FSB is 533mhz, not 400mhz or less like most of them | 23:08 |
| head_victim | I have a 3.2 prescott which I believe is 800? | 23:09 |
| nisshh | it means my RAM can nearly run at full speed | 23:09 |
| nisshh | not sure, i think so | 23:09 |
| head_victim | I hated gnome on it so much I wanted to buy a new PC. | 23:09 |
| head_victim | But I'm not a patient man. | 23:09 |
| nisshh | head_victim, your just used to your quad core | 23:09 |
| nisshh | ive been using nothing more powerful than this thing since i was 5, im used to it | 23:10 |
| head_victim | Meh, I use them for different things. Lubuntu saved me buying a new pc though. | 23:10 |
| nisshh | yeah | 23:10 |
| nisshh | Lubuntu is lightweight | 23:10 |
| head_victim | All I wanted was IRC, web browsing, amsn and skype. | 23:10 |
| head_victim | The quad core is where I "game", watch HDTV and run VMs all at once. | 23:11 |
| nisshh | yeah | 23:11 |
| nisshh | head_victim, im used to youtube vids running at 15 fps | 23:12 |
| head_victim | ANd urban terror under 60fps is unplayable for me | 23:12 |
| redvil | nisshh: what browser you using for youtube? | 23:12 |
| nisshh | even 380p video lags on this thing sometimes | 23:12 |
| nisshh | redvil, firefox 4.0, i use it for everything | 23:12 |
| nisshh | head_victim, did you see what i told darkrose the other day in the other channel? | 23:13 |
| redvil | nisshh: in chromium all youtube videos play in black and white now..not used to be like that | 23:13 |
| nisshh | i told her i had a problem with UrT | 23:13 |
| nisshh | redvil, lolwut? | 23:13 |
| redvil | nisshh: b/w with lines going diagonal | 23:14 |
| head_victim | nisshh: yeah, I'm currently looking for a laptop for when I hopefully get a new job and get my payout of leave hours from this one | 23:14 |
| nisshh | head_victim, i told darkrose that i was so used to playing UrT at 12 fps that when i used my mums core i3 lappy the other day, i got nearly no frags since im not used to 60+ fps :) | 23:14 |
| nisshh | redvil, wow, thats, odd... | 23:15 |
| redvil | nisshh: it really is...googling solutions for it now | 23:15 |
| nisshh | head_victim, im used to waiting a good 40 seconds for the next frame to load :) | 23:15 |
| nisshh | redvil, what version of chromium are you using? | 23:16 |
| redvil | nisshh: 10.0 | 23:17 |
| nisshh | wow, thats a little old | 23:17 |
| nisshh | im using 12 | 23:17 |
| nisshh | 12 is bleeding edge, but even so | 23:18 |
| head_victim | 12.0.700.0 (77774) | 23:18 |
| redvil | nisshh: do i need to manually upgrade it...i thought i does that whenever i click on ubuntu updates | 23:18 |
| nisshh | head_victim, my version is even newer than that | 23:19 |
| head_victim | Oh wow, I do have daily builds set up on this machine. | 23:19 |
| nisshh | head_victim, im on 12.0.703.0 | 23:19 |
| head_victim | Yeah if I do an update I'll get that | 23:20 |
| nisshh | redvil, no, you only have two choices, the version in the repo's, or daily builds | 23:20 |
| nisshh | head_victim, yeah | 23:20 |
| nisshh | redvil, in my experience, daily builds are fairly solid, but im not going to tell you to use them | 23:20 |
| redvil | nisshh: so i need to uninstall my current chromium and install a newer one from the repo's | 23:21 |
| nisshh | redvil, no | 23:21 |
| nisshh | redvil, how did you install chromium in the first place? | 23:21 |
| head_victim | Anyway, I need sleep, cheerio | 23:21 |
| redvil | nisshh: software centre...the only way i know how to install softwares | 23:22 |
| redvil | head_victim: sweet dreams mate..:D | 23:22 |
| nisshh | head_victim, cya, im probably going to sleep soonish as well | 23:22 |
| nisshh | redvil, you already have the repo version then | 23:23 |
| redvil | nisshh: how do i get a newer version then? | 23:23 |
| nisshh | redvil, use the daily builds PPA, i can tell you how to add it if you like | 23:23 |
| nisshh | (the quick and easy way) | 23:24 |
| redvil | nisshh: please do.. | 23:24 |
| nisshh | redvil, ok, open a terminal, lets have some fun :) | 23:24 |
| redvil | nisshh: k | 23:24 |
| redvil | nisshh: do i need to close the browser first? | 23:25 |
| nisshh | no | 23:25 |
| nisshh | you will just need to restart it to reload the chromium binary | 23:25 |
| redvil | k | 23:25 |
| nisshh | we can do that last though | 23:25 |
| redvil | let's get crackin' then | 23:26 |
| nisshh | redvil, ok, run this in the terminal first then: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/ppa | 23:26 |
| nisshh | that will add the daily builds PPA | 23:26 |
| nisshh | let me know when thats done | 23:26 |
| redvil | done | 23:28 |
| redvil | nisshh: finished | 23:29 |
| nisshh | redvil, ok, next run this as one command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgradre | 23:29 |
| nisshh | woops | 23:29 |
| nisshh | its upgrade not upgradre | 23:30 |
| nisshh | typo | 23:30 |
| redvil | does it take this long...or is my comp just sloooooooow | 23:34 |
| redvil | :D | 23:34 |
| nisshh | redvil, should only take a couple of minutes | 23:34 |
| nisshh | depends on your net speed | 23:35 |
| nisshh | and computer specs | 23:35 |
| nisshh | redvil, would you like me to explain what those commands just did? | 23:35 |
| redvil | nisshh: only the first one... | 23:36 |
| redvil | nisshh: anyway..it's done already | 23:36 |
| nisshh | you know what the last two do? | 23:36 |
| redvil | nisshh: it updates and upgrades the stuff in my comp? | 23:37 |
| nisshh | yes | 23:37 |
| nisshh | the first one simply adds the PPA to your software sources | 23:37 |
| redvil | nisshh: i usually do them one at a time..without && | 23:37 |
| nisshh | its like adding a PPA, just without the GUI | 23:37 |
| redvil | i didn't now you can do that | 23:37 |
| nisshh | yeah | 23:37 |
| nisshh | its useful sometimes | 23:37 |
| nisshh | redvil, the command line is more powerful than you can imagine :) | 23:38 |
| nisshh | redvil, ok, once it finishes upgrading everything, just restart chromium and check the version number | 23:38 |
| redvil | nisshh: i know that..it's just that it's way above my level of comprehension | 23:38 |
| nisshh | redvil, not at all, it just takes a little time and effort to learn :) | 23:39 |
| redvil | nisshh: i only use CLI for irssi and mocp | 23:39 |
| redvil | nisshh: and some easy 'sudo' commands | 23:39 |
| nisshh | yeah, i use it for that and so much more | 23:39 |
| redvil | i've been googling for easy to read and learn guides for linux CLI | 23:39 |
| redvil | i don't know where i saved the bookmarks for them | 23:40 |
| nisshh | heh, good luck, most of them are a little in depth and complex for someone of your level | 23:40 |
| redvil | i know.. | 23:40 |
| nisshh | redvil, i would be happy to teach you the basics | 23:40 |
| nisshh | its very easy | 23:40 |
| redvil | you know a good place to start? | 23:40 |
| nisshh | yes, its called 'ask nisshh' :) | 23:41 |
| redvil | nisshh: sure..if you're not too sleepy yet i got time to learn | 23:41 |
| nisshh | no, i wont be sleeping for a few hours yet | 23:41 |
| redvil | lol..btw how's your class going? | 23:41 |
| nisshh | hmm, not good so far, barely anyone has expressed interest | 23:41 |
| redvil | nisshh: 12.0.703.0 | 23:42 |
| nisshh | good, thats the latest version | 23:42 |
| redvil | thanks.. | 23:42 |
| nisshh | np | 23:42 |
| redvil | have you 'advertised' your class | 23:42 |
| redvil | maybe you need to get the word out so that they will come | 23:43 |
| nisshh | ive done a bunch of posts the the mailing list and at the meetings | 23:43 |
| nisshh | not much more i can do | 23:43 |
| nisshh | redvil, yeah, i will sort it out at some point anyway :) | 23:43 |
| redvil | i think most of the people here are already knowledgeable like you | 23:43 |
| nisshh | a fair few are | 23:43 |
| redvil | you need to target people like me.. | 23:44 |
| nisshh | not nearly all though | 23:44 |
| nisshh | well, thats the point of the classes | 23:44 |
| nisshh | but its not really a support class where i fix all your hardware issues | 23:44 |
| redvil | what's the class structure anyway? | 23:44 |
| nisshh | its more about bug triaging, coding, etc | 23:44 |
| nisshh | getting people into ubuntu development | 23:44 |
| redvil | oh..so it's not really basic stuff | 23:44 |
| nisshh | not exactly | 23:45 |
| redvil | i see | 23:45 |
| redvil | i thought it would be like beginner's Q&A sort of class | 23:45 |
| nisshh | i really dont want to do a class on how to use a mouse and keyboard :) | 23:45 |
| redvil | lol..not that basic | 23:45 |
| nisshh | well, i could do a beginners Q&A | 23:45 |
| redvil | even i can handle teaching that class.. | 23:45 |
| nisshh | but i cannot help with hardware issues, bugs, etc | 23:45 |
| nisshh | hehe | 23:46 |
| redvil | so it's mostly software thing | 23:46 |
| redvil | apps and stuff? | 23:46 |
| nisshh | yes, i could teach people how to use the CLI for example | 23:46 |
| nisshh | or apps | 23:46 |
| nisshh | or a specific DE | 23:46 |
| nisshh | desktop environment | 23:46 |
| redvil | oh..that's sounds great | 23:46 |
| nisshh | yeah | 23:46 |
| nisshh | redvil, only thing is, im not going to do it if only 2 people attend :) | 23:47 |
| redvil | you have a blog or website..why not post lessons there | 23:47 |
| nisshh | i want a good 10+ people before im willing to do it | 23:47 |
| redvil | i know what you mean | 23:47 |
| nisshh | a blog post is too short for an IRC classroom session | 23:47 |
| redvil | do it in parts then | 23:48 |
| nisshh | possibly | 23:48 |
| nisshh | but i want it to be a loco run thing, not just be blogging | 23:48 |
| nisshh | me* | 23:48 |
| redvil | i see | 23:48 |
| nisshh | redvil, anyway, if you want me to teach you about the CLI, we should move to a PM | 23:49 |
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