[09:24] <hot_wheelz> hi guys
[09:26] <hot_wheelz> apparently the are movie playing applications that will query  a db  now for BD discs in order to play them correct?
[10:12] <Adbuntu> hi
[10:14] <ikt> hey
[10:41] <ikt> heya schnoodles 
[12:41]  * ikt times out
[12:41] <ikt> http://ikt.id.au/blog/2011/03/14/ubuntu-11-04-countdown-buttonscript-and-a-story/
[12:42]  * ikt is very productive with his time
[14:33] <dkg779> heya, was wondering if anyone was available to help me with something ?
[14:45] <ikt> sup dkg779 ?
[14:47] <dkg779> basically I have a few songs from the searchers a 1960's band on .flv that I can't seem to buy and I am wondering how to convert them to audio or .mp3 for the car cd player
[14:49] <ikt> upload to youtube then: http://www.youtube-mp3.org/
[14:51] <dkg779> ok, thanks ikt
[14:52] <ikt> :>
[14:52] <ikt> it's a pretty slack way though
[14:53] <ikt> there might be a guide out there for using mplayer command line to convert or something
[14:53] <ikt> i cbf 
[14:53] <dkg779> kk fair enough lol
[22:23] <redvil> how do you 'repair' an app that's been 'incompletely' installed?
[22:23] <redvil> how do you 'purge' it?
[22:34] <redvil> need help on removing incompletely installed software
[22:35] <redvil> already done 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' but still wont uninstall
[22:35] <head_victim> redvil: "sudo apt-get purge package" is how to purge
[22:35] <redvil> head_victim: will try it now
[22:36] <nisshh> redvil, if that doesnt work, pastebin the output
[22:36] <nisshh> redvil, btw, how old are you?
[22:36] <nisshh> if you dont mind me asking
[22:38] <redvil> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:38] <redvil> nisshh: im 30 and i do mind you asking :D
[22:39] <nisshh> hehe
[22:39] <redvil> old age doesnt come with wisdom like some people say unfortunately..:D
[22:40] <nisshh> no, experience does
[22:40] <nisshh> not age
[22:40] <nisshh> its just older people tend to have more experience
[22:40] <redvil> in my case it's not with computers 
[22:41] <nisshh> i dont think wisdom is topic based
[22:41] <nisshh> i think knowledge is
[22:41] <redvil> anyone here got Skype on their computer? can't seem to install the bloddy thing
[22:41] <nisshh> but wisdom applies to everything
[22:41] <nisshh> redvil, how are you trying to install it?
[22:42] <redvil> nisshh: through software center
[22:42] <redvil> installed it last night but didnt finish
[22:42] <redvil> now i tried purging it but still won't work
[22:42] <redvil> wait..i'll give it another go
[22:43] <nisshh> ok
[22:44] <redvil> won't even let me remove it..'Package operation failed'
[22:45] <nisshh> redvil, can you pastebin the entire output of your terminal to: pastebin.ubuntu.com
[22:46] <nisshh> that way i know what commands your running
[22:46] <redvil> nisshh: im not using terminal..using software centre..don't know how to remove it through CLI
[22:47] <nisshh> didnt you run the purge command head_victim gave you?
[22:47] <nisshh> the only way to know for sure whats wrong is to use the terminal
[22:47] <nisshh> the software center will give you a very unhelpful dpkg error usually
[22:48] <nisshh> because it doesnt want to confuse newbies
[22:48] <redvil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/580343/
[22:48] <nisshh> redvil, ok, try this in the terminal: sudo apt-get install skype
[22:49] <nisshh> redvil, if that doesnt work, pastebin the output
[22:50] <redvil> nisshh: done
[22:50] <nisshh> redvil, it worked?
[22:51] <head_victim> redvil: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall skype"
[22:51] <redvil> got it now..
[22:52] <redvil> just wondering why it won't install using the software centre
[22:52]  * nisshh refrains from complaining about shiny GUI's
[22:52]  * redvil really needs to learn installing through CLI
[22:52] <head_victim> Were there any problems when you tried to install it the first time? Net dropout, power surge, etc?
[22:53] <redvil> head_victim: none that i know of..
[22:53] <head_victim> nisshh: it wasn't the program's fault we couldn't interpret the error because we haven't used it much.
[22:53] <head_victim> Just because you're more familiar with cli doesn't mean the gui is broken.
[22:53] <nisshh> head_victim, ive got that error before, but not from the software center
[22:53] <head_victim> redvil: fair enough, they were the ones I could think of off the top of my head.
[22:53] <nisshh> head_victim, i know, i just really, really hate GUI's :)
[22:54] <head_victim> nisshh: that's just because you have a POS computer that can't run GUIs ;)
[22:54] <nisshh> hah, so not true :|
[22:54] <redvil> yeah nisshh 
[22:54] <nisshh> head_victim, i just use the CLI so often now i cant stand the restrictiveness of GUI's
[22:54] <head_victim> Now to find out how the hell I track down the cause of my keyboard and mouse input hanging for minutes at a time.
[22:54] <redvil> what's POS anyway? lol
[22:55] <nisshh> even when i get my quad core, i will still be using the CLI just as much
[22:55] <head_victim> nisshh: depends on what you're doing, guis have their place and so do cli 
[22:55] <nisshh> redvil, not something that should be said in this channel :)
[22:55] <redvil> nisshh: i think i get it now
[22:55] <nisshh> hehe
[22:55] <redvil> Point Of Sale? :D
[22:56] <nisshh> heh, no
[22:56] <redvil> i know..just kidding
[22:56] <nisshh> heh
[22:56] <redvil> what i usually say to noisy neighbour's kid..little POS
[22:56] <nisshh> head_victim, see that bright, welcoming, comforting looking light in the distance? thats the CLI :)
[22:57] <head_victim> nisshh: I use cli for some stuff, gui for others
[22:57] <redvil> GUI especially for me
[22:57] <nisshh> so do i :)
[22:58] <redvil> i use CLI only for irssi and some rare 'sudo' moments
[22:59] <head_victim> I much rather a gui for web browsing, irc clients, file browsing and media players.
[22:59] <nisshh> the only GUI app i run is firefox
[22:59] <redvil> head_victim: same here
[22:59] <nisshh> nothing else
[22:59] <redvil> nisshh: you're too hardcore for me :D
[22:59] <head_victim> redvil: he's too hard core for himself ;)
[23:00] <redvil> lols
[23:00] <nisshh> *sniff* am not
[23:00] <nisshh> :0
[23:00] <redvil> or was it quadcore...lol
[23:01] <redvil> it's okay to chat this way on this channel right?
[23:01] <nisshh> well, we arent supposed to really
[23:01] <nisshh> redvil, if it turns social, we should move it to -chat
[23:01] <redvil> just notice the channel name just now that's why i asked
[23:02] <redvil> *noticed
[23:02] <nisshh> yeah
[23:03] <redvil> another question: is chrome and chromium from the same maker?
[23:04] <nisshh> heh, no
[23:04] <nisshh> redvil, chromium is the open source, non-google developed version of chrome
[23:04] <redvil> ok
[23:05] <nisshh> redvil, if your asking which one to use, use chromium
[23:05] <nisshh> its easier to install and maintain
[23:05] <redvil> chrome=google; chromium=open source
[23:05] <redvil> nisshh: that's what i've been using since i used linux..
[23:05] <nisshh> thats right
[23:05] <nisshh> chrome?
[23:05] <nisshh> or chromium?
[23:05] <redvil> chromium
[23:05] <nisshh> ah right
[23:06] <redvil> and firefox as well
[23:06] <nisshh> i switched back to firefox, since chromium is a RAM hog
[23:06] <head_victim> How much ram was it using?
[23:06] <redvil> and it's not good for watching youtube videos anymore
[23:06] <nisshh> like 0.5GB's
[23:06] <nisshh> which is not much if you have lots of RAM
[23:06] <nisshh> but i only have a GB
[23:07] <redvil> i only have 715MB
[23:07] <nisshh> wow
[23:07] <nisshh> i bet you cant run Unity
[23:07] <head_victim> I've found chromium to be much quicker than ff3.6 on this Lubuntu install. 
[23:07] <nisshh> head_victim, im using 4.0, its much quicker than 3.6
[23:07] <redvil> nisshh: i dont even know what that is
[23:07] <head_victim> I don't even run gnome on p4s
[23:08] <nisshh> head_victim, well, mine is a bit more powerful than your average P4, since my FSB is 533mhz, not 400mhz or less like most of them
[23:09] <head_victim> I have a 3.2 prescott which I believe is 800?
[23:09] <nisshh> it means my RAM can nearly run at full speed
[23:09] <nisshh> not sure, i think so
[23:09] <head_victim> I hated gnome on it so much I wanted to buy a new PC. 
[23:09] <head_victim> But I'm not a patient man.
[23:09] <nisshh> head_victim, your just used to your quad core
[23:10] <nisshh> ive been using nothing more powerful than this thing since i was 5, im used to it
[23:10] <head_victim> Meh, I use them for different things. Lubuntu saved me buying a new pc though.
[23:10] <nisshh> yeah
[23:10] <nisshh> Lubuntu is lightweight
[23:10] <head_victim> All I wanted was IRC, web browsing, amsn and skype.
[23:11] <head_victim> The quad core is where I "game", watch HDTV and run VMs all at once.
[23:11] <nisshh> yeah
[23:12] <nisshh> head_victim, im used to youtube vids running at 15 fps
[23:12] <head_victim> ANd urban terror under 60fps is unplayable for me
[23:12] <redvil> nisshh: what browser you using for youtube?
[23:12] <nisshh> even 380p video lags on this thing sometimes
[23:12] <nisshh> redvil, firefox 4.0, i use it for everything
[23:13] <nisshh> head_victim, did you see what i told darkrose the other day in the other channel?
[23:13] <redvil> nisshh: in chromium all youtube videos play in black and white now..not used to be like that
[23:13] <nisshh> i told her i had a problem with UrT
[23:13] <nisshh> redvil, lolwut?
[23:14] <redvil> nisshh: b/w with lines going diagonal
[23:14] <head_victim> nisshh: yeah, I'm currently looking for a laptop for when I hopefully get a new job and get my payout of leave hours from this one
[23:14] <nisshh> head_victim, i told darkrose that i was so used to playing UrT at 12 fps that when i used my mums core i3 lappy the other day, i got nearly no frags since im not used to 60+ fps :)
[23:15] <nisshh> redvil, wow, thats, odd...
[23:15] <redvil> nisshh: it really is...googling solutions for it now
[23:15] <nisshh> head_victim, im used to waiting a good 40 seconds for the next frame to load :)
[23:16] <nisshh> redvil, what version of chromium are you using?
[23:17] <redvil> nisshh: 10.0
[23:17] <nisshh> wow, thats a little old
[23:17] <nisshh> im using 12
[23:18] <nisshh> 12 is bleeding edge, but even so
[23:18] <head_victim> 12.0.700.0 (77774)
[23:18] <redvil> nisshh: do i need to manually upgrade it...i thought i does that whenever i click on ubuntu updates
[23:19] <nisshh> head_victim, my version is even newer than that
[23:19] <head_victim> Oh wow, I do have daily builds set up on this machine.
[23:19] <nisshh> head_victim, im on 12.0.703.0
[23:20] <head_victim> Yeah if I do an update I'll get that
[23:20] <nisshh> redvil, no, you only have two choices, the version in the repo's, or daily builds
[23:20] <nisshh> head_victim, yeah
[23:20] <nisshh> redvil, in my experience, daily builds are fairly solid, but im not going to tell you to use them
[23:21] <redvil> nisshh: so i need to uninstall my current chromium and install a newer one from the repo's
[23:21] <nisshh> redvil, no
[23:21] <nisshh> redvil, how did you install chromium in the first place?
[23:21] <head_victim> Anyway, I need sleep, cheerio
[23:22] <redvil> nisshh: software centre...the only way i know how to install softwares
[23:22] <redvil> head_victim: sweet dreams mate..:D
[23:22] <nisshh> head_victim, cya, im probably going to sleep soonish as well
[23:23] <nisshh> redvil, you already have the repo version then
[23:23] <redvil> nisshh: how do i get a newer version then?
[23:23] <nisshh> redvil, use the daily builds PPA, i can tell you how to add it if you like
[23:24] <nisshh> (the quick and easy way)
[23:24] <redvil> nisshh: please do..
[23:24] <nisshh> redvil, ok, open a terminal, lets have some fun :)
[23:24] <redvil> nisshh: k
[23:25] <redvil> nisshh: do i need to close the browser first?
[23:25] <nisshh> no
[23:25] <nisshh> you will just need to restart it to reload the chromium binary
[23:25] <redvil> k
[23:25] <nisshh> we can do that last though
[23:26] <redvil> let's get crackin' then
[23:26] <nisshh> redvil, ok, run this in the terminal first then: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/ppa
[23:26] <nisshh> that will add the daily builds PPA
[23:26] <nisshh> let me know when thats done
[23:28] <redvil> done
[23:29] <redvil> nisshh: finished
[23:29] <nisshh> redvil, ok, next run this as one command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgradre
[23:29] <nisshh> woops
[23:30] <nisshh> its upgrade not upgradre
[23:30] <nisshh> typo
[23:34] <redvil> does it take this long...or is my comp just sloooooooow
[23:34] <redvil> :D
[23:34] <nisshh> redvil, should only take a couple of minutes
[23:35] <nisshh> depends on your net speed
[23:35] <nisshh> and computer specs
[23:35] <nisshh> redvil, would you like me to explain what those commands just did?
[23:36] <redvil> nisshh: only the first one...
[23:36] <redvil> nisshh: anyway..it's done already
[23:36] <nisshh> you know what the last two do?
[23:37] <redvil> nisshh: it updates and upgrades the stuff in my comp?
[23:37] <nisshh> yes
[23:37] <nisshh> the first one simply adds the PPA to your software sources
[23:37] <redvil> nisshh: i usually do them one at a time..without &&
[23:37] <nisshh> its like adding a PPA, just without the GUI
[23:37] <redvil> i didn't now you can do that
[23:37] <nisshh> yeah
[23:37] <nisshh> its useful sometimes
[23:38] <nisshh> redvil, the command line is more powerful than you can imagine :)
[23:38] <nisshh> redvil, ok, once it finishes upgrading everything, just restart chromium and check the version number
[23:38] <redvil> nisshh: i know that..it's just that it's way above my level of comprehension
[23:39] <nisshh> redvil, not at all, it just takes a little time and effort to learn :)
[23:39] <redvil> nisshh: i only use CLI for irssi and mocp
[23:39] <redvil> nisshh: and some easy 'sudo' commands
[23:39] <nisshh> yeah, i use it for that and so much more
[23:39] <redvil> i've been googling for easy to read and learn guides for linux CLI
[23:40] <redvil> i don't know where i saved the bookmarks for them
[23:40] <nisshh> heh, good luck, most of them are a little in depth and complex for someone of your level
[23:40] <redvil> i know..
[23:40] <nisshh> redvil, i would be happy to teach you the basics
[23:40] <nisshh> its very easy
[23:40] <redvil> you know a good place to start?
[23:41] <nisshh> yes, its called 'ask nisshh' :)
[23:41] <redvil> nisshh: sure..if you're not too sleepy yet i got time to learn
[23:41] <nisshh> no, i wont be sleeping for a few hours yet
[23:41] <redvil> lol..btw how's your class going?
[23:41] <nisshh> hmm, not good so far, barely anyone has expressed interest
[23:42] <redvil> nisshh: 12.0.703.0
[23:42] <nisshh> good, thats the latest version
[23:42] <redvil> thanks..
[23:42] <nisshh> np
[23:42] <redvil> have you 'advertised' your class
[23:43] <redvil> maybe you need to get the word out so that they will come
[23:43] <nisshh> ive done a bunch of posts the the mailing list and at the meetings
[23:43] <nisshh> not much more i can do
[23:43] <nisshh> redvil, yeah, i will sort it out at some point anyway :)
[23:43] <redvil> i think most of the people here are already knowledgeable like you
[23:43] <nisshh> a fair few are
[23:44] <redvil> you need to target people like me..
[23:44] <nisshh> not nearly all though
[23:44] <nisshh> well, thats the point of the classes
[23:44] <nisshh> but its not really a support class where i fix all your hardware issues
[23:44] <redvil> what's the class structure anyway?
[23:44] <nisshh> its more about bug triaging, coding, etc
[23:44] <nisshh> getting people into ubuntu development
[23:44] <redvil> oh..so it's not really basic stuff
[23:45] <nisshh> not exactly
[23:45] <redvil> i see
[23:45] <redvil> i thought it would be like beginner's Q&A sort of class
[23:45] <nisshh> i really dont want to do a class on how to use a mouse and keyboard :)
[23:45] <redvil> lol..not that basic
[23:45] <nisshh> well, i could do a beginners Q&A
[23:45] <redvil> even i can handle teaching that class..
[23:45] <nisshh> but i cannot help with hardware issues, bugs, etc
[23:46] <nisshh> hehe
[23:46] <redvil> so it's mostly software thing
[23:46] <redvil> apps and stuff?
[23:46] <nisshh> yes, i could teach people how to use the CLI for example
[23:46] <nisshh> or apps
[23:46] <nisshh> or a specific DE
[23:46] <nisshh> desktop environment
[23:46] <redvil> oh..that's sounds great
[23:46] <nisshh> yeah
[23:47] <nisshh> redvil, only thing is, im not going to do it if only 2 people attend :)
[23:47] <redvil> you have a blog or website..why not post lessons there
[23:47] <nisshh> i want a good 10+ people before im willing to do it
[23:47] <redvil> i know what you mean
[23:47] <nisshh> a blog post is too short for an IRC classroom session
[23:48] <redvil> do it in parts then
[23:48] <nisshh> possibly
[23:48] <nisshh> but i want it to be a loco run thing, not just be blogging
[23:48] <nisshh> me*
[23:48] <redvil> i see
[23:49] <nisshh> redvil, anyway, if you want me to teach you about the CLI, we should move to a PM