[09:24] hi guys [09:26] apparently the are movie playing applications that will query a db now for BD discs in order to play them correct? [10:12] hi [10:14] hey [10:41] heya schnoodles [12:41] * ikt times out [12:41] http://ikt.id.au/blog/2011/03/14/ubuntu-11-04-countdown-buttonscript-and-a-story/ [12:42] * ikt is very productive with his time [14:33] heya, was wondering if anyone was available to help me with something ? [14:45] sup dkg779 ? [14:47] basically I have a few songs from the searchers a 1960's band on .flv that I can't seem to buy and I am wondering how to convert them to audio or .mp3 for the car cd player [14:49] upload to youtube then: http://www.youtube-mp3.org/ [14:51] ok, thanks ikt [14:52] :> [14:52] it's a pretty slack way though [14:53] there might be a guide out there for using mplayer command line to convert or something [14:53] i cbf [14:53] kk fair enough lol [22:23] how do you 'repair' an app that's been 'incompletely' installed? [22:23] how do you 'purge' it? [22:34] need help on removing incompletely installed software [22:35] already done 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' but still wont uninstall [22:35] redvil: "sudo apt-get purge package" is how to purge [22:35] head_victim: will try it now [22:36] redvil, if that doesnt work, pastebin the output [22:36] redvil, btw, how old are you? [22:36] if you dont mind me asking [22:38] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [22:38] nisshh: im 30 and i do mind you asking :D [22:39] hehe [22:39] old age doesnt come with wisdom like some people say unfortunately..:D [22:40] no, experience does [22:40] not age [22:40] its just older people tend to have more experience [22:40] in my case it's not with computers [22:41] i dont think wisdom is topic based [22:41] i think knowledge is [22:41] anyone here got Skype on their computer? can't seem to install the bloddy thing [22:41] but wisdom applies to everything [22:41] redvil, how are you trying to install it? [22:42] nisshh: through software center [22:42] installed it last night but didnt finish [22:42] now i tried purging it but still won't work [22:42] wait..i'll give it another go [22:43] ok [22:44] won't even let me remove it..'Package operation failed' [22:45] redvil, can you pastebin the entire output of your terminal to: pastebin.ubuntu.com [22:46] that way i know what commands your running [22:46] nisshh: im not using terminal..using software centre..don't know how to remove it through CLI [22:47] didnt you run the purge command head_victim gave you? [22:47] the only way to know for sure whats wrong is to use the terminal [22:47] the software center will give you a very unhelpful dpkg error usually [22:48] because it doesnt want to confuse newbies [22:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/580343/ [22:48] redvil, ok, try this in the terminal: sudo apt-get install skype [22:49] redvil, if that doesnt work, pastebin the output [22:50] nisshh: done [22:50] redvil, it worked? [22:51] redvil: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall skype" [22:51] got it now.. [22:52] just wondering why it won't install using the software centre [22:52] * nisshh refrains from complaining about shiny GUI's [22:52] * redvil really needs to learn installing through CLI [22:52] Were there any problems when you tried to install it the first time? Net dropout, power surge, etc? [22:53] head_victim: none that i know of.. [22:53] nisshh: it wasn't the program's fault we couldn't interpret the error because we haven't used it much. [22:53] Just because you're more familiar with cli doesn't mean the gui is broken. [22:53] head_victim, ive got that error before, but not from the software center [22:53] redvil: fair enough, they were the ones I could think of off the top of my head. [22:53] head_victim, i know, i just really, really hate GUI's :) [22:54] nisshh: that's just because you have a POS computer that can't run GUIs ;) [22:54] hah, so not true :| [22:54] yeah nisshh [22:54] head_victim, i just use the CLI so often now i cant stand the restrictiveness of GUI's [22:54] Now to find out how the hell I track down the cause of my keyboard and mouse input hanging for minutes at a time. [22:54] what's POS anyway? lol [22:55] even when i get my quad core, i will still be using the CLI just as much [22:55] nisshh: depends on what you're doing, guis have their place and so do cli [22:55] redvil, not something that should be said in this channel :) [22:55] nisshh: i think i get it now [22:55] hehe [22:55] Point Of Sale? :D [22:56] heh, no [22:56] i know..just kidding [22:56] heh [22:56] what i usually say to noisy neighbour's kid..little POS [22:56] head_victim, see that bright, welcoming, comforting looking light in the distance? thats the CLI :) [22:57] nisshh: I use cli for some stuff, gui for others [22:57] GUI especially for me [22:57] so do i :) [22:58] i use CLI only for irssi and some rare 'sudo' moments [22:59] I much rather a gui for web browsing, irc clients, file browsing and media players. [22:59] the only GUI app i run is firefox [22:59] head_victim: same here [22:59] nothing else [22:59] nisshh: you're too hardcore for me :D [22:59] redvil: he's too hard core for himself ;) [23:00] lols [23:00] *sniff* am not [23:00] :0 [23:00] or was it quadcore...lol [23:01] it's okay to chat this way on this channel right? [23:01] well, we arent supposed to really [23:01] redvil, if it turns social, we should move it to -chat [23:01] just notice the channel name just now that's why i asked [23:02] *noticed [23:02] yeah [23:03] another question: is chrome and chromium from the same maker? [23:04] heh, no [23:04] redvil, chromium is the open source, non-google developed version of chrome [23:04] ok [23:05] redvil, if your asking which one to use, use chromium [23:05] its easier to install and maintain [23:05] chrome=google; chromium=open source [23:05] nisshh: that's what i've been using since i used linux.. [23:05] thats right [23:05] chrome? [23:05] or chromium? [23:05] chromium [23:05] ah right [23:06] and firefox as well [23:06] i switched back to firefox, since chromium is a RAM hog [23:06] How much ram was it using? [23:06] and it's not good for watching youtube videos anymore [23:06] like 0.5GB's [23:06] which is not much if you have lots of RAM [23:06] but i only have a GB [23:07] i only have 715MB [23:07] wow [23:07] i bet you cant run Unity [23:07] I've found chromium to be much quicker than ff3.6 on this Lubuntu install. [23:07] head_victim, im using 4.0, its much quicker than 3.6 [23:07] nisshh: i dont even know what that is [23:07] I don't even run gnome on p4s [23:08] head_victim, well, mine is a bit more powerful than your average P4, since my FSB is 533mhz, not 400mhz or less like most of them [23:09] I have a 3.2 prescott which I believe is 800? [23:09] it means my RAM can nearly run at full speed [23:09] not sure, i think so [23:09] I hated gnome on it so much I wanted to buy a new PC. [23:09] But I'm not a patient man. [23:09] head_victim, your just used to your quad core [23:10] ive been using nothing more powerful than this thing since i was 5, im used to it [23:10] Meh, I use them for different things. Lubuntu saved me buying a new pc though. [23:10] yeah [23:10] Lubuntu is lightweight [23:10] All I wanted was IRC, web browsing, amsn and skype. [23:11] The quad core is where I "game", watch HDTV and run VMs all at once. [23:11] yeah [23:12] head_victim, im used to youtube vids running at 15 fps [23:12] ANd urban terror under 60fps is unplayable for me [23:12] nisshh: what browser you using for youtube? [23:12] even 380p video lags on this thing sometimes [23:12] redvil, firefox 4.0, i use it for everything [23:13] head_victim, did you see what i told darkrose the other day in the other channel? [23:13] nisshh: in chromium all youtube videos play in black and white now..not used to be like that [23:13] i told her i had a problem with UrT [23:13] redvil, lolwut? [23:14] nisshh: b/w with lines going diagonal [23:14] nisshh: yeah, I'm currently looking for a laptop for when I hopefully get a new job and get my payout of leave hours from this one [23:14] head_victim, i told darkrose that i was so used to playing UrT at 12 fps that when i used my mums core i3 lappy the other day, i got nearly no frags since im not used to 60+ fps :) [23:15] redvil, wow, thats, odd... [23:15] nisshh: it really is...googling solutions for it now [23:15] head_victim, im used to waiting a good 40 seconds for the next frame to load :) [23:16] redvil, what version of chromium are you using? [23:17] nisshh: 10.0 [23:17] wow, thats a little old [23:17] im using 12 [23:18] 12 is bleeding edge, but even so [23:18] 12.0.700.0 (77774) [23:18] nisshh: do i need to manually upgrade it...i thought i does that whenever i click on ubuntu updates [23:19] head_victim, my version is even newer than that [23:19] Oh wow, I do have daily builds set up on this machine. [23:19] head_victim, im on 12.0.703.0 [23:20] Yeah if I do an update I'll get that [23:20] redvil, no, you only have two choices, the version in the repo's, or daily builds [23:20] head_victim, yeah [23:20] redvil, in my experience, daily builds are fairly solid, but im not going to tell you to use them [23:21] nisshh: so i need to uninstall my current chromium and install a newer one from the repo's [23:21] redvil, no [23:21] redvil, how did you install chromium in the first place? [23:21] Anyway, I need sleep, cheerio [23:22] nisshh: software centre...the only way i know how to install softwares [23:22] head_victim: sweet dreams mate..:D [23:22] head_victim, cya, im probably going to sleep soonish as well [23:23] redvil, you already have the repo version then [23:23] nisshh: how do i get a newer version then? [23:23] redvil, use the daily builds PPA, i can tell you how to add it if you like [23:24] (the quick and easy way) [23:24] nisshh: please do.. [23:24] redvil, ok, open a terminal, lets have some fun :) [23:24] nisshh: k [23:25] nisshh: do i need to close the browser first? [23:25] no [23:25] you will just need to restart it to reload the chromium binary [23:25] k [23:25] we can do that last though [23:26] let's get crackin' then [23:26] redvil, ok, run this in the terminal first then: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/ppa [23:26] that will add the daily builds PPA [23:26] let me know when thats done [23:28] done [23:29] nisshh: finished [23:29] redvil, ok, next run this as one command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgradre [23:29] woops [23:30] its upgrade not upgradre [23:30] typo [23:34] does it take this long...or is my comp just sloooooooow [23:34] :D [23:34] redvil, should only take a couple of minutes [23:35] depends on your net speed [23:35] and computer specs [23:35] redvil, would you like me to explain what those commands just did? [23:36] nisshh: only the first one... [23:36] nisshh: anyway..it's done already [23:36] you know what the last two do? [23:37] nisshh: it updates and upgrades the stuff in my comp? [23:37] yes [23:37] the first one simply adds the PPA to your software sources [23:37] nisshh: i usually do them one at a time..without && [23:37] its like adding a PPA, just without the GUI [23:37] i didn't now you can do that [23:37] yeah [23:37] its useful sometimes [23:38] redvil, the command line is more powerful than you can imagine :) [23:38] redvil, ok, once it finishes upgrading everything, just restart chromium and check the version number [23:38] nisshh: i know that..it's just that it's way above my level of comprehension [23:39] redvil, not at all, it just takes a little time and effort to learn :) [23:39] nisshh: i only use CLI for irssi and mocp [23:39] nisshh: and some easy 'sudo' commands [23:39] yeah, i use it for that and so much more [23:39] i've been googling for easy to read and learn guides for linux CLI [23:40] i don't know where i saved the bookmarks for them [23:40] heh, good luck, most of them are a little in depth and complex for someone of your level [23:40] i know.. [23:40] redvil, i would be happy to teach you the basics [23:40] its very easy [23:40] you know a good place to start? [23:41] yes, its called 'ask nisshh' :) [23:41] nisshh: sure..if you're not too sleepy yet i got time to learn [23:41] no, i wont be sleeping for a few hours yet [23:41] lol..btw how's your class going? [23:41] hmm, not good so far, barely anyone has expressed interest [23:42] nisshh: 12.0.703.0 [23:42] good, thats the latest version [23:42] thanks.. [23:42] np [23:42] have you 'advertised' your class [23:43] maybe you need to get the word out so that they will come [23:43] ive done a bunch of posts the the mailing list and at the meetings [23:43] not much more i can do [23:43] redvil, yeah, i will sort it out at some point anyway :) [23:43] i think most of the people here are already knowledgeable like you [23:43] a fair few are [23:44] you need to target people like me.. [23:44] not nearly all though [23:44] well, thats the point of the classes [23:44] but its not really a support class where i fix all your hardware issues [23:44] what's the class structure anyway? [23:44] its more about bug triaging, coding, etc [23:44] getting people into ubuntu development [23:44] oh..so it's not really basic stuff [23:45] not exactly [23:45] i see [23:45] i thought it would be like beginner's Q&A sort of class [23:45] i really dont want to do a class on how to use a mouse and keyboard :) [23:45] lol..not that basic [23:45] well, i could do a beginners Q&A [23:45] even i can handle teaching that class.. [23:45] but i cannot help with hardware issues, bugs, etc [23:46] hehe [23:46] so it's mostly software thing [23:46] apps and stuff? [23:46] yes, i could teach people how to use the CLI for example [23:46] or apps [23:46] or a specific DE [23:46] desktop environment [23:46] oh..that's sounds great [23:46] yeah [23:47] redvil, only thing is, im not going to do it if only 2 people attend :) [23:47] you have a blog or website..why not post lessons there [23:47] i want a good 10+ people before im willing to do it [23:47] i know what you mean [23:47] a blog post is too short for an IRC classroom session [23:48] do it in parts then [23:48] possibly [23:48] but i want it to be a loco run thing, not just be blogging [23:48] me* [23:48] i see [23:49] redvil, anyway, if you want me to teach you about the CLI, we should move to a PM