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Terminushello. it was suggested that i ask this question here. is there any chance that this fix will make it into lucid? --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim/+bug/58479706:25
ubottuUbuntu bug 584797 in vim (Ubuntu) "vim loses left/right cursor keys in insert mode when editing SQL" [Undecided,Fix released]06:25
nigelb!sru | Terminus06:49
ubottuTerminus: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates06:49
nigelbYou'll have to follow the guidelines there for an SRU06:49
Terminusnigelb: i see. thanks.06:50
guahi, not sure if this is the best place to put this, but i noticed ubuntu-10.04 server torrents were linked under the "Ubuntu 10.10" header instead of 10.10 torrents at the bottom on http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#bt06:51
micahggua: please file an issue here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/06:52
guaah ok06:53
nigelbwhoa, that took a few moments to figure out what was wrong :(06:53
pittiGood morning07:27
didrocksgood morning08:03
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dholbachgood morning08:47
pittihey dholbach08:49
dholbachhey pitti08:49
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sirlatromhi, got a possible bug in apt-get or aptitude but not sure which of the two to submit it to09:30
sladensirlatrom: which did you type when the bug/issue appeared :)09:31
sirlatromaptitude, but it uses apt-get right?09:31
sladensirlatrom: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+filebug09:31
sirlatromsladen: ok, thanks09:32
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amitknjpatel: I still don't see the skype icon in the status bar after getting friday's updates. (And yes, it is merely invisible. Clicking on the empty space brings up the skype dialog)13:04
njpatelamitk, Urgh, I can't reproduce that after the updates at all :/13:06
njpatelamitk, can yo ufile a bug please?13:07
njpatelI'll have another look this week13:07
* njpatel wonders what magic he can do to make it stay in the right stacking order13:07
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SpamapSwth? DMB moved their meeting to 12:00 UTC ?!13:50
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geserSpamapS: it alternates between 12:00 UTC and 19:00 UTC for some time now13:53
SpamapSahhh I didn't know that. :-/13:53
kirkland@pilot on13:54
udevbot(pilot (in|out)) -- Set yourself an in or out of patch pilot.13:54
SpamapSwell then..2 more weeks.13:54
kirkland@pilot in13:54
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SpamapSkirkland: o/ morning13:55
kirklandSpamapS: howdy13:55
geserSpamapS: looks like you didn't miss anything as the DMB meeting was unquorate13:55
SpamapSgeser: right.. last time the quorum took 45 min to achieve, and I passed out from jet lag waiting for the meeting to complete. :-p13:59
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kirklandbryceh_: hi, about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat-gnome/+bug/41558614:52
ubottuUbuntu bug 415586 in xchat-gnome (Ubuntu) "[Needs 0.27] xchat-gnome crashed with SIGSEGV in handle_command()" [High,Triaged]14:52
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kirklandbryceh_: i see the patch you attached,  i'm curious if there's a good reason you haven't uploaded yourself14:52
kirklandbryceh_: I was about to do so as today's patchpilot, but wanted to check with you first14:52
kirklandjamesh: ping15:04
kirklandjamesh: i'm all kinds of confused about the state of lp:~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/natty/vim/add-upstart-syntax15:04
cjwatsonkirkland: (a) you have the wrong James, (b) I'm happy to handle that one since I handled the previous similar one15:05
kirklandcjwatson: so i see (a), whoops15:05
kirklandjhunt: ^15:05
* ogra_ was thinking upstart grew some python when seein (a) phew15:05
cjwatsonlp:ubuntu/vim is out of date due to importer bugs15:06
cjwatsonwhich makes LP merge requests against it pretty confusing15:06
kirklandcjwatson: yes, agreed15:06
cjwatsonI just processed the previous one by hand15:06
kirklandcjwatson: i was about to import-dsc it15:06
cjwatsonI didn't bother :)15:06
kirklandcjwatson: shall i just walk away from this one, then?15:06
cjwatsonas I say, I'm happy to handle it15:07
kirklandcjwatson: k, thanks15:07
jhuntcjwatson: thx from me too! :)15:07
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cjwatsonjhunt: you should probably just 'apt-get source vim' for future changes, and file bugs with patches, until such time as the import is sorted out15:09
cjwatsonI'll massage this into 2:7.3.035+hg~8fdc12103333-1ubuntu415:10
apwcjwatson, jhunt, did either of you see my write up on the vesafb thingy?15:10
cjwatsonapw: not yet, where was it?15:10
apwcjwatson, in the first instance direct email15:10
jhuntcjwatson: ack15:10
apwcjwatson, subject: framebuffer initialisation15:10
cjwatsonah, drowned in my inbox15:12
* cjwatson finds it and will think hard about that15:13
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cjwatsonvim> done (2:7.3.035+hg~8fdc12103333-1ubuntu5)15:15
jhuntcjwatson: thx!15:17
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kirklandpitti: morning!15:51
kirklandpitti: i'm reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~er-abhinav-upadhyay/ubuntu/natty/apport/bugfix-357847/+merge/53184  as part of my patch pilot day15:51
kirklandpitti: against apport15:52
kirklandpitti: i was wondering if you wanted to review that one yourself15:52
kirklandpitti: and also if this one requires an FFe, in your opinion15:52
hallynhi all - there is a package in universe called celt, which is at version 0.7.1.  We need version 0.5.1 for another package.  Would it be best to create 'celt051' package?  (requiring users to pin seems so barbaric)  Is there a better name for the package?15:54
pittihey kirkland (sorry, was at the phone)15:55
kirklandpitti: no problem15:55
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kirklandhallyn: that is the best way to solve that particular problem, but it's somewhat frowned upon, in my experience15:56
pittikirkland: hm, I'd rather avoid having that implementation in the shell wrapper15:56
kirklandhallyn: usually, we lean heavily on the dependent package to modernize15:56
pittikirkland: so yes, I'd rather review it myself then; thanks for pointing out!15:56
kirklandpitti: no problem15:56
hallynkirkland: so the name 'celt051' is ok?15:57
pittikirkland: (it should also be committed to trunk first)15:57
kirklandpitti: right, i'll add a comment that I'm deferring to you15:57
hallynkirkland: you can see the depending's package's attitude to upgrading in the debian ITP  :)15:58
hallynIMO our options are (1) don't package it, (2) packaging something patched and incompatible with other distro's client/server, or (3) package 0.5.1.  I was hoping (2) would work better than it apparently will, so I'd started 2 in my ppa, but am now punting on that15:58
kirklandhallyn: what's the depending package?16:00
kirklandhallyn: hah :-)16:01
hallyndev-zero is going to push the stuff in his ppa (with some modifications) into universe16:01
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kirklandhallyn: anyway, to answer your question, yes, that is the way to do it16:04
kirklandhallyn: see python3, python2.6, python2.716:05
abhinav-ttx, thanks for reviewing it again :) . I did "bzr status" in my branch, it showed nothing, also I think catalina.policy is already present in conf/ ?16:07
* ttx branches and checks16:08
abhinav-ttx :-)16:09
ttxabhinav-: right, it's just the stock one, so it's already in.16:15
ttxabhinav-: i'll test and sponsor that in. Tomorrow.16:16
manishabhinav-: ping. on #ubuntu-in16:16
abhinav-ttx,  ok thanks :)16:16
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SpamapSjhunt: /win 1116:33
SpamapSjhunt: hey.. I was just going to say hi, and let you know that I installed your upstart package.. no problems yet16:33
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geserjhunt: did you forward your upstart syntax changes for vim to Debian? so we have less delta for the next vim merge17:03
jhuntgeser: no - I forwarded them to vim.org.17:03
geserthat's also ok :)17:03
jhuntgeser: :)17:03
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kirklandpitti: hey, one more for you17:15
kirklandpitti: i see you were the last to comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/69988617:15
ubottuUbuntu bug 699886 in langpack-locales (Ubuntu) "Strange date format in en_SG locale" [Low,In progress]17:16
kirklandpitti: the report has reported it upstream, as you requested17:16
kirklandpitti: is it okay to apply the patch now to langpack-locales  and upload to natty?17:16
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apwcjwatson, thanks, i'd like you and jhunt to be happy before i go any further17:26
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pittikirkland: sounds good! if you are at it, perhaps you can add the patch in bug 546581 as well?18:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 546581 in langpack-locales (Ubuntu Natty) "Incorrect LC_MONETARY symbol of es_NI.utf-8" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54658118:00
ScottKBug #734957 <-- Less than one hour from reported to fix released ...18:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 734957 in python3-defaults (Ubuntu) "py3compile fails on error output" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73495718:05
slangasekpitti: hi there; did you happen to see my bug about cdbs+python-scour making fontconfig unbuildable? (bug #734471)18:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 734471 in cdbs (Ubuntu Natty) "cdbs python-scour dependency makes fontconfig unbuildable" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73447118:06
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pittihey slangasek18:15
pittislangasek: no, I didn't see it /me reading18:15
NCommanderdirecthex: you about?18:15
directhexa little18:16
NCommanderdirecthex: need additional mono help :-(. trying that 2.10 setup with banshee failed with issues in Mono.Addins18:17
MadCow108scottK:  haven't you reverted piotrs fix with your fix?18:17
MadCow108which is in the same changelog entry ^^18:17
ScottKNo.  I added his.18:18
MadCow108the diff only shows removal18:18
ScottKWe didn't have it in Ubuntu before.18:18
directhexNCommander:  oh? odd, it should be using mono.addins from the gac. what does "/path/to/parallel/mono/bin/gacutil -l | grep -i addins" say?18:18
NCommanderdirecthex: no, that works, the problem is it throws exceptions18:18
ScottKMadCow108: Yes.  Piotr's fix was to remove a bad change.18:18
directhexNCommander: interesting. pastebin the errors?18:19
NCommanderdirecthex: give me a sec18:19
NCommanderdirecthex: root@risingsun:/# /opt/mono-2.10/bin/gacutil -l | grep -i addins18:20
NCommanderMono.Addins, Version=, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=0738eb9f132ed75618:20
pittislangasek: replied in the bug18:20
MadCow108ah I understand, the log is from the cherry pick18:20
directhexNCommander: yeah, the lib is definitely there. can you try erasing the addins cache from ~/.config/banshee-1/addins* ? there are lingering bugs in 0.418:21
NCommanderdirecthex: same crash18:21
NCommanderdirecthex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/580227/18:22
directhexNCommander: /usr/bin/banshee is using your /opt banshee?18:25
directhexum, /opt mono18:25
NCommanderdirecthex: yeah18:26
directhexNCommander: can you try installing addins from sid? wait, did i remember to upload to sid?18:32
directhexsigh, no18:32
NCommanderdirecthex: I can install them if you want18:32
NCommanderdirecthex: got a source package I can build?18:33
directhexNCommander: in git18:33
NCommanderdirecthex: got it, building18:36
Laney14/03 18:32:54 <NCommander> directhex: I can install them if you want18:41
Laney14/03 18:33:04 <NCommander> directhex: got a source package I can build?18:41
Laney14/03 18:33:15 <directhex> NCommander: in git18:41
Laney14/03 18:36:05 <NCommander> directhex: got it, building18:41
Laneysorry folks18:41
LaneyNCommander: you can run with MONO_LOG_LEVEL=debug to get even more output too18:42
directhexbloody dsl18:53
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lan3yi got killed too, wasn't the dsl19:07
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abhinav- I just noticed that the application deadline for gsoc is over. I was wondering if Ubuntu applied or not ?19:33
highvoltagelamont: hey there, I updated livecd-rootfs to install edubuntu theming in the ltsp chroot shipped with edubuntu. could you update it on the build machines so that we could have it in daily builds?19:40
hallyntrying to install natty-desktop from friday's iso, from cd, it was hanging at partman.  (the hd had been pre-partitioned, which may or may not be relevant)  Anyone else see a problem like that?19:47
charlie-tcahallyn: desktop cd's been doing it all weekend19:55
charlie-tcaubi-partman error?19:55
MadCow108can apparmor profiles handle XDG base desktop directories?19:55
MadCow108XDG_CONFIG_DIR etc19:55
beunohallyn, I had that 2 weeks ago, and evan gave me a workaround which I can't find now19:55
beunoit was bug #72219819:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 722198 in partman-auto (Ubuntu Natty) "installation hangs on 15reuse w/ blank disk" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72219819:56
jdstrandMadCow108: I assume you mean dynamically at runtime. That would be 'no', though the situation could be improved somewhat by using variables in the profiles (which we don't yet)19:56
hallyncharlie-tca: beuno:  thanks, great to know it's not just me :)19:57
hallynbeuno: hm.  but i dont' have unpartitioned space.  it's all owned by lvm.  how is 'unpartitioned space' defined i wonder?19:58
MadCow108with runtime you mean change it during apparmor running does not work? but it works when it does not change?19:58
charlie-tcathis is a different bug again, it is the old ubi-partman 141 error back19:59
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charlie-tcaIt doesn't care if there is blank drive space or not, from what I can tell20:00
jdstrandMadCow108: by runtime, I mean something like @{HOM}/Private is mapped to something other translated string for 'Private'. that is not possible atm. One can update the profiles to use @{HOME}/<your translated 'Private'> and it would all work fine20:08
hallyncharlie-tca: is there an open bug about it that you know of?20:09
leimyWondering about the ubuntu process of building release ISOs.  Is there some publicly available build scripts that could make it easy to make a derivative of ubuntu?20:10
charlie-tcahallyn: I don't know. I saw an update for it today, hoping it got fixed and the images tomorrow will work20:10
leimyFor example I'd really like a 64bit version of JeOS.20:11
* ScottK drums his fingers and look around for barry ...20:11
leimybut it looks like I might need to do that myself :-)20:11
NCommanderdirecthex: so upgraded mono-addins, still crashing and buring20:13
NCommanderf-spot works though ...20:15
hallyncharlie-tca: i can roll with that.  will test tomorrow20:17
charlie-tcaI will be filing one if it fails again tomorrow20:17
hallynok, thanks20:17
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MadCow108jdstrand: why does @{HOME}/.opera/** lrwk, allow opera to lock files in /usr/share? removing the k disallows it. there are no links to /usr/share in ~/.opera20:32
NCommanderdirecthex: I stil see no love. f-spot will crashes, and banshee still crashes. I find myself going out of my mind in debugging this20:34
cjwatsoncharlie-tca: probably bug 72939421:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 729394 in partman-auto (Ubuntu) "partman fails to load during install on LVM systems" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72939421:03
cjwatson(it's not LVM-specific, despite the title)21:03
cjwatsonit won't necessarily be fixed tomorrow, since I'm probably not going to squeeze in another ubiquity upload before going to bed21:04
MadCow108ah great this is fixed, thanks21:06
MadCow108was it related to bug 729556?21:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 729556 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[Natty] Ubiquity takes forever to load partitioner (if exotic file systems are present?)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72955621:07
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LLStarksev, how do i trigger ubiquity-preserve-home?21:15
cjwatsonMadCow108: I imagine there were several duplicates21:36
directhexNCommander: i have no idea what's happening with it21:37
cjwatsonI've duped it21:37
leimyIt's been a few hours so I thought I'd ask again.  Is there any kind of way to reproduce an ubuntu build process, or is it that one is just supposed to remaster new systems from selected packages.  I'm still not finding a lot of information on how Ubuntu derivative systems are actually built.21:41
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evLLStarks: can you elaborate?  If you have an existing copy of Ubuntu, you'll have an option to reinstall or upgrade on the partitioning page on the natty desktop CD.21:48
leimyHuh, and now the wiki page I was looking at for derivatives has been pulled?21:49
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LLStarksthe feature is new to natty right, because i'm wondering whether to recommend a standard or separate-home installation for maverick/natty.22:13
LLStarksto ev btw22:14
evLLStarks: it exists in versions prior to natty in the advanced partitioner22:15
LLStarksi know,  but natty makes it idiot-proof, right?22:16
evLLStarks: if you go into the advanced partitioner and set your partitions back up as they were in the previous version of ubuntu, then uncheck the format button, it will clean out /, preserving /home, /usr/local, etc.22:16
LLStarkshaven't re/installed natty in a few weeks22:16
evLLStarks: correct22:16
evwell, idiot-proof-ish22:16
evif you're recommending to people that they use this, please include a disclaimer that they should make a backup first22:17
evthis will be the first release with this feature (I realize the / clearing stuff has been there for a while, but package reinstallation is new)22:17
evthere will be bugs22:17
ogra_fta, did you recently upload a chromium browser SRU that enables NEON in maverick ?22:17
LLStarksgotcha, thanks ev22:18
evLLStarks: sure thing22:18
* ogra_ gets reports from people where it dies with SIGILL since a few days22:18
ogra_and it seems to be the in-archive package they use22:18
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SpamapSThe following NEW packages will be installed: ecryptfs-utils gettext-base keyutils libecryptfs0 libkeyutils1 libnspr4 libnss3 libnss3-1d libpopt0 lsof rsync22:22
SpamapSHmm.. more stuff in base files?22:22
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ftaogra, nope, the opposite. neon=0 thumb=1 everywhere, and armv7 on maverick+natty only22:25
ogradid that recently change ?22:26
ftaogra, why?22:26
ograbecause i have people in the ac100 community complaining to me that chromium doesnt start for them since a few days22:27
ograthe browser dies with SIGILL on startup22:27
ftasince ch10, i enforced arm_neon=0 to fix a ftbfs22:28
ograso i was wondering if something recently changed in the package (ac100 has no NEON)22:28
ftacould be v7, which i flipped (the test was wrongly reversed before)22:29
ograv7 shuld be fine22:29
ftaogra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/574525/  the various flags/tests in the chromium build system22:31
sorenSpamapS: adduser recommends ecryptfs-utils now.22:32
sorenSpamapS: Up from a suggests.22:32
zyga-illcjwatson, hi22:33
zyga-illcjwatson, I read your blog post, I'm sure you know that qemu -snashot -hda /dev/sda _does_ allow you to boot into the same operating system again, assuming you have enough storage for temporary files22:34
zyga-ill-snapshot even22:34
ografta, hmm, that looks to me like neon is on by default22:36
ftaogra, i'm quite sure i disabled it: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/66221823/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.chromium-browser_10.0.648.133~r77742-0ubuntu0.10.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz22:39
ftawouldn't build otherwise22:39
ftai can do a verbose build to confirm if you want22:40
ograno, looks fine22:42
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