[01:23] <DarkwingDuck> Well, that makes thing less confusing.
[01:23] <DarkwingDuck> Irssi time it now set to UTC
[01:29] <grantbow> time, time, time, see what's become of me...
[01:30] <pleia2> a couple of my servers are configured to utc time, my poor users :)
[01:30] <DarkwingDuck> hehehe
[01:30] <DarkwingDuck> My server that irssi sits on is French time (UTC+1), I'm in PST and I deal 99% in UTC.
[01:30] <DarkwingDuck> It was a messed up system.
[01:30] <pleia2> my firewall is still on east coast time
[01:31] <pleia2> but that's because it connects to work in philly, and it's easier to debug issues when we're all playing by the same rules ;)
[01:31] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah
[01:32] <grantbow> no Bangles fans I guess :-)
[01:32] <pleia2> it did cause a problem when I was debugging a new ssl connection on another machine, my issue turned out to be that I generated the certificate in the future so it was all failing
[01:32] <pleia2> east coast == future
[01:32] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[01:32] <pleia2> all of a sudden after 3 hours it worked! d'oh!
[01:32] <akk> whups!
[01:33] <DarkwingDuck> :D That's always fun.
[01:33] <grantbow> modern time travel
[01:33] <DarkwingDuck> Wife is sooooooooooo gonna kill me tonight.
[01:33] <DarkwingDuck> I'll just have to get the kids not to tell
[01:33] <pleia2> we'll keep things short :)
[01:33] <pleia2> maybe
[01:34] <DarkwingDuck> Heh.
[01:34] <DarkwingDuck> She can deal.
[01:34] <DarkwingDuck> If she wants to go to church from 4p till 9p she can deal. ;)
[01:34] <pleia2> yeah, well you'll be the dead one
[01:34] <DarkwingDuck> meh
[01:34] <pleia2> one of my cats is snoring
[01:35] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[01:35] <DarkwingDuck> yeesh it's nice out here tonight
[01:35] <pleia2> and DST has me all out of sorts, it's too light out :(
[01:35] <pleia2> it's raining here
[01:35] <DarkwingDuck> DST is crap
[01:35] <pleia2> yeah
[01:36] <grantbow> yeah
[01:59]  * DarkwingDuck looks about
[01:59] <DarkwingDuck> we have a full room?
[02:00]  * pleia2 waves
[02:00] <DarkwingDuck> *** START MEETING ***
[02:00] <DarkwingDuck> Greetings fellow team members!
[02:01] <DarkwingDuck> Yes, I'm actually chairing a meeting tonight.
[02:01] <pleia2> *gasps from the audience*
[02:01] <DarkwingDuck> okay smart butt. :P:P
[02:01] <pleia2> at least I didn't say something about kde
[02:01] <DarkwingDuck> Seeing that I just came from one of those meetings... Thank you :P
[02:01] <pleia2> :)
[02:01] <DarkwingDuck> Our agenda tonight is kinda short and sweet. (maybe)
[02:02] <DarkwingDuck> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11March13 for the list of items
[02:02]  * DarkwingDuck pauses
[02:02] <DarkwingDuck> Is anyone here other then pleia2 and myself?
[02:02] <grantbow> o/
[02:02] <akk> o/
[02:02] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, scale fallout
[02:03] <DarkwingDuck> overall i felt that Ubucon was a HUGE success
[02:03] <pleia2> nhaines did an amazing job with ubucon!
[02:03] <DarkwingDuck> +100 to nhaines for ubucon
[02:03] <DarkwingDuck> speaking of...
[02:03] <pleia2> he said he'd update ubucon.org with links to videos and such when he gets them
[02:04] <DarkwingDuck> Okay good.
[02:04] <DarkwingDuck> The booth did very well too
[02:04] <DarkwingDuck> we handed out around 600 CDs
[02:04] <pleia2> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntu-us-ca << photos from myself and iheartubuntu
[02:05] <DarkwingDuck> and about half of that amount was pressed CDs
[02:05] <grantbow> nice
[02:05] <iheartubuntu> im interested to hand out 1000 next time
[02:05] <pleia2> iheartubuntu was a cd sleeve folding machine :)
[02:06] <pleia2> and erichammond showed us how to fold them (thankfully!)
[02:06] <DarkwingDuck> I have talked to jono about the CD issue we had and he gave me the names of a couple of people to talk to so we can get many many more CDs next year
[02:06] <DarkwingDuck> A BIG shout out to all of you who showed up. It was fun to put a face to these IRC nicks
[02:07] <DarkwingDuck> Any other positive fallout?
[02:07] <iheartubuntu> ive started an ubuntu hour with richard gaskin
[02:07] <DarkwingDuck> Other then loads of people that talked to me about KDE and Kubuntu :D
[02:07] <iheartubuntu> first one in pasadena :)
[02:07] <DarkwingDuck> Oh good.
[02:07] <iheartubuntu> and hope philip and i can do one in claremont when he is up here
[02:08] <iheartubuntu> seidos and i are now talking about one in lakewood area
[02:08] <DarkwingDuck> Awesome. There are rumors of another one down here in San Diego too
[02:09] <DarkwingDuck> Anything else from SCALE?
[02:09] <iheartubuntu> San gabriel LUG wants me to speak
[02:09] <iheartubuntu> not sure what to speak on
[02:09] <DarkwingDuck> +1!
[02:09] <iheartubuntu> i will go there a couple times firts
[02:09] <DarkwingDuck> Unity!
[02:09] <iheartubuntu> first
[02:09] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[02:09] <pleia2> if anyone else has photos and wants them up on the flickr page just let me know (grab me on irc or email lyz@ubuntu.com)
[02:09] <pleia2> this goes for scale, ubuntu hours, etc etc
[02:09] <DarkwingDuck> Sweet
[02:10] <iheartubuntu> jbermudes is excited about pasadena ubuntu hour too! so we should have minimum 3 people attending and enjoying the time
[02:10] <grantbow> great
[02:10] <seidos> when is it again iheartubuntu?
[02:11] <iheartubuntu> 2nd thursday of every month
[02:11] <iheartubuntu> peets coffee - corner of lake ave and california blvd
[02:11] <iheartubuntu> two blocks from cal tech
[02:11] <pleia2> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/778/detail/ is the 1st
[02:11] <iheartubuntu> which is where the LUG meets
[02:11] <seidos> cool
[02:11] <iheartubuntu> ty
[02:11] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, next item on the list...
[02:11] <DarkwingDuck> Ubuntu Global Jam
[02:12] <iheartubuntu> so it will be a ubuntu hour + head over to the LUG after large amounts of espresso?
[02:12] <seidos> sorry i asked, heh
[02:12] <pleia2> jono organized one in Walnut Creek for Friday April 1st: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/701/detail/
[02:12] <seidos> i won't be drinking espresso
[02:12] <DarkwingDuck> From April 1st to the 3rd is the Ubuntu Global Jam. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[02:12] <DarkwingDuck> These Jams can be a host of things.
[02:12] <seidos> i think i'm on the same drug that Sheen is on
[02:12] <pleia2> I have work that day, but jdeslip floated the idea of having one in Berkeley on Sunday, so I'll follow up with him about planning that (we did a Lucid jam there too)
[02:13] <DarkwingDuck> Bug jams, packaging jams, Translation jams, Doc jams, testing jams and Upgrade jams
[02:13] <seidos> spread jam
[02:13] <seidos> ha
[02:13] <DarkwingDuck> I will be holding a doc jam on one of those days via IRC for Kubuntu Docs
[02:14] <pleia2> cool
[02:14] <iheartubuntu> so how does a jam work? people meet in person or online
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> Both.
[02:14]  * akk was just listening to cartalk, a woman who got jam in her automatic shifter and it wouldn't shift any more :)
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[02:14] <grantbow> akk: different kind of jam here, lol
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> hehehe
[02:14] <pleia2> the lucid global jam in berkeley worked well for both last year, a bunch of us met for pizza and worked on things, we were working on a flier that we posted to the list and talked about in IRC during the jam :)
[02:15] <DarkwingDuck> Awesome.
[02:15] <pleia2> and grantbow and I did mini presentations
[02:15]  * grantbow nods
[02:15] <DarkwingDuck> The mean reason I won't be able to do much is that the Doc freeze is on the 7th and that is my final crunch time. :/
[02:16] <DarkwingDuck> So, I figured I would host a IRC Kubuntu Doc jam
[02:16] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: here or with kubuntu people?
[02:16] <DarkwingDuck> Anyone
[02:16] <akk> With all the talk about opportunistic development, how come there are no development jams?
[02:16] <pleia2> I mean, where on IRC :)
[02:17] <DarkwingDuck> Oh, I'll be creating a channel for it.
[02:17] <DarkwingDuck> I'm almost finished drafting that email.
[02:17] <pleia2> akk: global jams can be anything, so a development jam is fine
[02:17] <pleia2> these started out as global bug jams, until one day there were a massive number of newbies around the world triaging bugs and making a mess that the bug squad had to clean up after :\
[02:17] <DarkwingDuck> The doc jam I'm holding will be Kubuntu because the system docs for ubuntu and kubuntu are different on many levels
[02:18] <DarkwingDuck> Anyway, I had forwarded Jorge's email on it to the ML and I will forward it again.
[02:18] <pleia2> so now it's "whatever your expertise is and you want to share it with others" jam :)
[02:18] <grantbow> right, contributing to Ubuntu encompases more than code and bugs but those are certainly welcome
[02:18] <jledbetter> that's cool
[02:19] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: you can just reply to the same email and say we'll talk about it, no need to reforward :)
[02:19] <DarkwingDuck> Works too. :)
[02:19] <DarkwingDuck> Anyway, if we want to get some jams setup this is the time to plan it.
[02:20] <DarkwingDuck> We can announce finals at the next meeting
[02:20] <pleia2> once you plan a jam, make a loco.ubuntu.com directory about it and add it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/NattyGlobalJam
[02:21] <pleia2> (ask anyone here if you have questions about using loco.ubuntu.com)
[02:22] <DarkwingDuck> If you have any more questions about Jams please, ask away. :)
[02:22] <DarkwingDuck> If not, we can roll onto release parties.
[02:22] <pleia2> onward!
[02:22] <DarkwingDuck> Now, I know that this is a while out but, I wanted to touch base on this
[02:23] <DarkwingDuck> Normally a release party requires more planning because of the space required.
[02:23] <DarkwingDuck> Natty releases on April 28
[02:23] <DarkwingDuck> So, maybe an install-fest/release parties in the beginning of May will work out nicely.
[02:24] <iheartubuntu> (general questions can be asked at the end of the meeting?)
[02:24] <seidos> oh, i have a question, has anyone considered having a jam at a hacker space?
[02:24] <pleia2> seidos: yep, hackerspaces are fine places for jams :)
[02:24] <seidos> there's apparently a hacker space here in LA
[02:24] <iheartubuntu> what is a hackerspace
[02:25] <seidos> like a space where hackers meet
[02:25] <pleia2> hackerspaces.org
[02:25] <akk> Usually someone who's a member of the hackerspace has to host it -- at least that's how it works with hacker dojo here.
[02:25] <seidos> ah, i knew there would be caveats
[02:25] <pleia2> noisebridge in SF is more open than hacker dojo, you have to check with each space for their policies
[02:25] <seidos> i guess crashing a hackerspace is looked down upon in the hacker community
[02:26] <pleia2> depends on the space
[02:26] <grantbow> depends
[02:26] <seidos> has anyone done it?
[02:26] <pleia2> we had an installfest at noisebridge
[02:26] <grantbow> You don't have to crash if you are a regular.
[02:26] <seidos> did it go well?
[02:26] <pleia2> it went great :)
[02:26] <DarkwingDuck> Unless I can do it from home it is hard for me to get to places... the joys of three young kids
[02:26] <grantbow> I think it went well, yes
[02:26] <seidos> did you ask someone before you started inviting people?
[02:27] <seidos> i can't even do it from home, since i don't have my own place
[02:27] <pleia2> seidos: our experience won't be the same as at other hackerspaces, you need to check the rules of your local one
[02:27] <seidos> the joys of being a loser :)
[02:27] <seidos> pleia2: sorry i asked
[02:27] <pleia2> grantbow is at noisebridge all the time, so we just needed to set aside the space and time
[02:27] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[02:28] <DarkwingDuck> Going back to release parties... if you are setting one up please, please please update the info here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/NattyRelease
[02:28] <pleia2> thanks to grantbow for putting up the page
[02:28] <DarkwingDuck> Whoot!
[02:29] <pleia2> I'll give jono a nudge and see if he has thoughts on one, he usually likes to host one in SF at thirsty bear brewing
[02:29] <DarkwingDuck> Anything else on release parties? We have plenty of time to get things setup
[02:29] <iheartubuntu> what goes on at a release... jsut a glorified ubuntu hour? :)
[02:29] <iheartubuntu> with the new release of course
[02:29] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: you can have a party, or have an installfest, or do whatever
[02:30] <grantbow> often the party is too close to the release to have media available, so it's usually a social event.
[02:30] <DarkwingDuck> Some people get together for drinks
[02:30] <akk> or combine it with a jam
[02:30] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/LucidRelease shows the variation of our events (Lucid was an LTS so a big release, we did *a lot*
[02:30] <DarkwingDuck> Other help with upgrades and installs
[02:30] <pleia2> )
[02:30] <eps> If we use a hackerspace, we can have our own food, as opposed to whatever a restaurant/bar limits you to
[02:30] <seidos> there's two answers, the simplified one, and the glorified hyped up propagandified electrified stupendous answer
[02:30] <DarkwingDuck> Loads of goody joyness
[02:30] <DarkwingDuck> seidos: +1
[02:31] <DarkwingDuck> Next on the list is something I have been wanting to do for a while now.
[02:31] <DarkwingDuck> Training
[02:31] <DarkwingDuck> If you have ever wanted how to do soemthing. Bug running, docs, packaging, dev ect ect
[02:31] <seidos> you can bring your own drinks and food to a bar, but you gotta' use Jedi mind tricks and stealth
[02:31] <DarkwingDuck> We wnat to help setup training for these things.
[02:31] <pleia2> seidos: most won't allow it (it can get you thrown out)
[02:32] <seidos> pleia2: you will not throw me out *waves hand*
[02:32] <akk> and it's a good way to have your event not welcome there in the future
[02:32] <jledbetter> DarkwingDuck, Great idea
[02:32] <akk> DarkwingDuck: Local in-person training, or online/irc?
[02:32] <seidos> no way
[02:32] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: the Ubuntu Learning project exists, but it's woefully low on volunteers to write courses, if ubuntu-us-ca wanted to help I'd be grateful
[02:33] <DarkwingDuck> I'll help out with that too pleia2
[02:33] <iheartubuntu> i want to know training :) great idea
[02:33] <seidos> why couldn't the wiki be the course material?
[02:33] <iheartubuntu> see pleia2 ^^
[02:33] <pleia2> seidos: it can be the basis of material, but teaching a class is more than just reading from a book/wiki :)
[02:34] <seidos> pleia2: like what do you have in mind besides reading from a book?
[02:34] <DarkwingDuck> seidos: The wiki is good info... taking packaging for example... Packaging on the wiki is horrible to look at. Once I had someone walk me throughit became a breeze
[02:34] <seidos> so there is no packaging walk through, interesting
[02:34] <DarkwingDuck> Oh there is
[02:34] <seidos> it's just mind numbingly boring?
[02:34] <DarkwingDuck> took me 5 hours to read all of it
[02:35] <seidos> did it take 5 hours to walk through it when you worked with someone?
[02:35] <DarkwingDuck> So, would anyone be interested in learning about things like packaging or bug triage?
[02:35] <akk> Most ubuntu/debian packaging tutorials take the approach "there are 5 different ways to do this, it's a matter of taste which one you pick, here's a bizarre hybrid of 3 of the techniques switching randomly between them".
[02:35] <seidos> energy cannot be created or destroyed
[02:36] <jledbetter> akk, True
[02:36] <DarkwingDuck> akk: +1
[02:36] <jtatum> … what?
[02:36] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: online or off?
[02:36] <seidos> huh interesting
[02:36] <pleia2> and IRC? video?
[02:36] <DarkwingDuck> both
[02:36] <jledbetter> jtatum, no idea
[02:36] <akk> DarkwingDuck: I'd be interested in learning better packaging (and might be able to teach some other topics).
[02:37] <DarkwingDuck> I was thinking ubuntu-classroom stuff
[02:37] <pleia2> I'd also be happy to welcome california folks to #ubuntu-classroom for anything any time :)
[02:37] <iheartubuntu> packaging of DEBs?
[02:37] <DarkwingDuck> But even beyond that
[02:37] <pleia2> we organize in #ubuntu-classroom-backstage
[02:37] <seidos> why can't we learn in this channel?
[02:38] <eps> packaging _and_ PPAs
[02:38] <akk> Has anybody tried in-person packaging tutorials, like "Let's spend 3 hours and each person will actually get something packaged in that time"?
[02:38] <akk> I've been to a few of the #ubuntu-classroom sessions, and they're helpful but they go way too fast for people to keep up and actually do it right then.
[02:38] <DarkwingDuck> I have, but that was becasue of what I was packaging
[02:39] <DarkwingDuck> So it sounds like this might be something good?
[02:39] <akk> (and I'm not criticising them -- I think they go at the right speed considering there's another class coming up right afterward)
[02:39] <seidos> ah, no wonder i'm not interested in packaging.  i have nothing to package.
[02:40] <grantbow> eps: ppas are not so bad: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware
[02:40] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: sounds good!
[02:40] <iheartubuntu> double good!
[02:40] <DarkwingDuck> Awesome, I'll work on gettig a wiki setup for it and look on the ML for it too!
[02:40] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, that about wraps up the agenda. We now open the floor to anything else?
[02:41] <iheartubuntu> yes
[02:41] <iheartubuntu> uno momento
[02:42] <iheartubuntu> ok. this tuesday i will be placing an order with Ubuntu Store
[02:42] <iheartubuntu> to help save on the shipping
[02:42] <grantbow> we can chat after the meeting too.
[02:42] <iheartubuntu> details I put out on the mailing list here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2011-March/001589.html
[02:42] <iheartubuntu> ordering a big item yourself like a backpack might cost $50
[02:43] <iheartubuntu> or just some stickers along might cost you $10
[02:43] <iheartubuntu> if we group the order, then shipping should be down to $5 a person
[02:43] <iheartubuntu> nhaines brought up that there may be new merchandise soon for Natty release
[02:43] <iheartubuntu> so keep that in mind
[02:44] <iheartubuntu> im still ordering no matter
[02:44] <iheartubuntu> (done)
[02:44] <DarkwingDuck> How do we get the money to you?
[02:44] <jledbetter> iheartubuntu, Thank you :)
[02:44] <iheartubuntu> paypal
[02:44] <DarkwingDuck> Okay sweet
[02:44] <DarkwingDuck> If the store sold up to date Kubuntu items I would :P
[02:45] <iheartubuntu> please IM me and i will give out my email addy. since this is logged i wont post it here
[02:45] <DarkwingDuck> Anything else?
[02:46] <iheartubuntu> i have a few questions, but can wait till the end
[02:46] <iheartubuntu> unless now is a good time
[02:46] <DarkwingDuck> If there is nothing else the meeting ends. Next meeting will be held in two weeks on the 27th of March at 7p
[02:46] <DarkwingDuck> ** END MEETING **
[02:46] <grantbow> Thanks for hosting DarkwingDuck
[02:46] <iheartubuntu> Any good ways to spread word about an Ubuntu Hour? Also, we are looking for anyone new to Ubuntu as well right?
[02:47] <DarkwingDuck> My pleasure. Now to get these kids in bed before the wife kills me
[02:47] <DarkwingDuck> iheartubuntu: LUG MLs
[02:47] <iheartubuntu> :)
[02:47] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: remind me the day it's happening and I'll be sure the flickr/identica/facebook is updated
[02:47] <iheartubuntu> good idea
[02:47] <pleia2> (same goes for all of them, I lose track!)
[02:47] <pleia2> thanks DarkwingDuck :)
[02:47] <iheartubuntu> can anyone recommend an Ubuntu related speech i can do?
[02:48] <seidos> iheartubuntu: you could pass out little cards if you have the resources
[02:48] <iheartubuntu> what kind of cards
[02:48] <DarkwingDuck> iheartubuntu: gimme a few... I have one that I typped up.
[02:48] <seidos> i dunno, those cards that they pass out for clubs and parties or something.  like mini fliers
[02:48] <iheartubuntu> ahhh
[02:48] <iheartubuntu> good deal. i can print some Ubuntu California mini ones up
[02:48] <grantbow> iheartubuntu check spreadubuntu for presentations too
[02:48] <iheartubuntu> sounds good thanks grantbow
[02:49] <iheartubuntu> my concern is a LUG is probably 15-20 people who meet and know each other every month
[02:49] <iheartubuntu> one told me that many of them use ubuntu
[02:49] <pleia2> I asked the local lugs if I was allowed to post to their lists about ubuntu hours
[02:49] <iheartubuntu> my concern would be "what can i bring to the table" if they already use ubuntu
[02:49] <pleia2> most of them were happy to spread the word :)
[02:49] <iheartubuntu> so i was thinking to just go to the LUG ask around what they are interested in
[02:50] <akk> iheartubuntu: new things coming in the next release? A lot of them might not know that.
[02:50]  * iheartubuntu scribbles it down.
[02:50] <iheartubuntu> good idea
[02:50] <seidos> iheartubuntu: i feel you
[02:50] <grantbow> iheartubuntu: some presentations not posted to spreadubuntu yet: http://joey.ubuntu-rocks.org/blog/presentations/
[02:50] <iheartubuntu> i have a belt on
[02:50] <iheartubuntu> :D
[02:50] <DarkwingDuck> iheartubuntu: draft up a message that states something along the lines of if anone is interested in Ubuntu a few of us will be meeting {DATE++TIME}. We will be talking about the next release and if you have any questions about Ubuntu you can bring them along.
[02:50] <akk> Or details of a specific app or workflow (some people would be interested, some wouldn't, but that's true of any talk).
[02:50] <seidos> i'm just going with the flow now, if there is a role to fill that you can fill, then fill it
[02:51] <iheartubuntu> ty DD
[02:51] <seidos> what color is your belt?
[02:51] <iheartubuntu> black
[02:51] <seidos> i'm not wearing one ;)
[02:51] <iheartubuntu> (gulp)
[02:51] <seidos> the void!
[02:51] <iheartubuntu> nc
[02:51] <seidos> nc?
[02:51] <iheartubuntu> no comment!
[02:52] <jledbetter> huh?
[02:52] <iheartubuntu> also... if anyone is interested...
[02:52] <iheartubuntu> id like to start an online game nite once a month
[02:52] <pleia2> online?
[02:52] <seidos> wat?
[02:52] <iheartubuntu> monopoly is a crazy game and can be fun and there are a few versions out there for linux
[02:52] <pleia2> that might be fun actually
[02:52] <iheartubuntu> yes, online
[02:53] <iheartubuntu> i dont know too many online games we can do together
[02:53] <DarkwingDuck> parcheesi!!
[02:53] <iheartubuntu>  i was testing all the monopoly games last night
[02:53] <pleia2> open arena!
[02:53] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2: +1
[02:53] <iheartubuntu> :) sounds good to me
[02:53] <seidos> warcraft 1!
[02:53] <DarkwingDuck> Minecraft!
[02:53]  * DarkwingDuck ducks
[02:53] <akk> multiplayer tuxkart!
[02:53] <seidos> gauntlet!
[02:53] <iheartubuntu> we can make this a Ubuntu CA thingy, or expand it past that if its successful.
[02:53] <iheartubuntu> post it on the events page even :)
[02:53] <pleia2> ooh, tuxkart is multiplayer?
[02:54] <iheartubuntu> it is??? where have i been
[02:54] <akk> No, I don't think so. I was just dreaming.
[02:54] <pleia2> oh ok :)
[02:54] <seidos> so was i
[02:54] <seidos> well, if i was dreaming...what game would i want to play...
[02:54] <seidos> probably a multiplayer zelda game...or castlevania
[02:54] <seidos> or marvel vs capcom
[02:55] <seidos> shin akuma vs wolverine
[02:55] <iheartubuntu> this is about the best monopoly version out there. has built in chat too. http://www.playdeb.net/software/Capitalism
[02:55] <seidos> hmmm
[02:55] <iheartubuntu> if thats not peoples style, i'll look for something else like open arena
[02:55] <pleia2> we can probably rotate games per week
[02:55] <seidos> link isn't working :(
[02:55] <iheartubuntu> monopoly *could* teach money management, so thats why i suggested it
[02:55] <DarkwingDuck> If we hold off a month I'll have my desktop and with my dedicated IP I will be able to host a open arena server
[02:56] <iheartubuntu> it teaches luck mroe than anything tho
[02:56] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: I think that's a stretch :)
[02:56] <pleia2> yeah, luck
[02:56] <seidos> maybe some communists took the site down
[02:56] <grantbow> games = fun!
[02:56] <pleia2> fun++
[02:56] <seidos> heh, i can teach money management:  don't waste it on stuff you don't need.
[02:57] <iheartubuntu> any card games that have multiplayer?
[02:57] <seidos> hindsight is infinite
[02:57] <pleia2> if we could make it a non-wednesday weeknight I'd be happy :)
[02:57] <seidos> glchess is multiplayer
[02:57] <seidos> but only 1 vs 1
[02:57] <seidos> afaik
[02:57] <iheartubuntu> other racing games like Speed Dreams?
[02:57] <iheartubuntu> all 20 of us can watch a match
[02:57] <iheartubuntu> :D
[02:58] <iheartubuntu> i like the racing or first person style games as pretty much anyone can jump in and play
[02:58] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: come up with a list? we can try some out and start planning our first night :)
[02:58] <iheartubuntu> excellent. i will do that
[02:58] <pleia2> yay!
[02:59] <grantbow> racing tux vs. Wilber and other logos can direct some of that competitive energy, hehe
[02:59] <iheartubuntu> seidos... is there a multiplayer zelda like game in linux?
[02:59] <seidos> iheartubuntu: nah, not that i know of anyway.
[03:00]  * iheartubuntu im "testing" supertuxkart for everyone right now
[03:00] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: if you are interested in learning more about hackerspaces, the first keynote at scale was on it and it was very good: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/12957881
[03:00] <seidos> iheartubuntu: there isn't even one for nintendo, really.  there was a GBA zelda game that was multiplayer.
[03:00] <iheartubuntu> are all the speeches online now?
[03:00] <iheartubuntu> what about ubucon
[03:01] <pleia2> no, just the two keynotes
[03:01] <seidos> i want to go to the hackerspace in LA, but i think i should probably go with somebody
[03:01] <iheartubuntu> supertuxkart (network play is not yet available)
[03:01] <iheartubuntu> so you dont get hacked?
[03:01] <pleia2> *yet* - that's promising :)
[03:01] <jtatum> you're not allowed to go alone
[03:01] <seidos> yeah, neuro-hacked
[03:01] <iheartubuntu> ahh
[03:02] <akk> It's like visiting a cult -- they might suck you in!
[03:03] <iheartubuntu> what r they hacking?
[03:03] <seidos> i just don't feel like watching, not worth the drive in that case
[03:03] <pleia2> hacking in the good sense, like "figuring out and building"
[03:03] <iheartubuntu> ohh
[03:03] <pleia2> hardware, software
[03:03] <seidos> but if i'm meeting somebody, then at least there's that
[03:03] <jtatum> better not risk it seidos
[03:04] <grantbow> offer free Ubuntu discs to the hacer space - those folks love generally
[03:04] <grantbow> hacker
[03:04] <grantbow> love them
[03:05] <akk> Don't most people at hackerspaces either run linux already, or know how to burn ISOs?
[03:05] <pleia2> a lot of them use macs
[03:05] <pleia2> I see windows machines at noisebridge too
[03:05] <akk> Oh, maybe not at cheap hackerspaces, though (i've only seen the dojo, where most people are pretty experienced).
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> so, anyone worried about absorbing any RADs from fallout all the way here in Calif?
[03:05] <grantbow> akk: amazingly not always
[03:05] <pleia2> we do have a dedicated linux night :) and some linux classes
[03:06] <grantbow> good for giving to friends too
[03:06] <jtatum> wow, did you see that dig at noisebridge by akk? :)
[03:06] <grantbow> using rsync or zsync of the natty dailies is appreciated too
[03:06] <akk> jtatum: dig? "cheap"? That's a compliment, not a dig.
[03:06] <jtatum> ;)
[03:07] <akk> jtatum: The uncool thing about the dojo is that it's way expensive.
[03:07] <iheartubuntu> i read today if you cant get a hold of any iodide, the japanese have always eaten miso soup and organic nori to keep low radiation out of their body
[03:07] <jtatum> one of the uncool things :)
[03:07] <grantbow> I need to get to the dojo sometime
[03:07] <jtatum> (that was a dig)
[03:07] <akk> (also, not much hardware stuff going on compared to places hypatia talks about)
[03:07] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: so we should stock up on miso soup?
[03:07] <grantbow> dig or digg :-)
[03:07] <iheartubuntu> :)
[03:08] <iheartubuntu> or just go out for beer and japanese food :p
[03:08] <pleia2> mmm
[03:08] <pleia2> do you think health insurance would cover it?
[03:08] <iheartubuntu> red miso paste
[03:08] <iheartubuntu> hot water and some nori
[03:10] <iheartubuntu> japanese health insurance :)
[03:10] <pleia2> http://twitpic.com/49bcry
[03:10] <pleia2> websites shouldn't have hours of operation :(
[03:11] <iheartubuntu> haa
[03:12] <akk> impressive!
[03:12] <pleia2> (that's what you get when you go to https://secure.ssa.gov/apps6z/i1099/main.html and click on the buttons on the bottom)
[03:17] <iheartubuntu> might be good to run a game night after a team meeting here.
[03:18] <iheartubuntu> we already have some people together which is already tough to do
[03:19] <iheartubuntu> wow its already after 8
[03:19] <iheartubuntu> so ubuntu just changed the time?
[03:19] <iheartubuntu> i was up and didnt even notice it
[03:21] <pleia2> yeah, the tzdata file is updated for local time zones w/ dst
[03:32] <iheartubuntu> DarkwingDuck - email sent. no rush. i know how busy life gets!
[03:33] <iheartubuntu> i was playing monopoly last night against a german guy. i introduced him to finding a loco team
[03:33] <iheartubuntu> i was surprised there was not more than just the germany loco
[03:33] <iheartubuntu> then again, germany is smaller than CA
[04:11] <iheartubuntu> ubuntu in a marvel comic... http://www.ubuntudaily.com/wp-content/uploads/1185408112656.jpg
[04:12] <pleia2> 2.6.10?!
[04:12] <wjimenez5271> hiya
[04:12] <pleia2> hello wjimenez5271
[04:27]  * iheartubuntu had one too many beers
[04:29] <pleia2> beers++
[04:30] <iheartubuntu> and polish suasage i imported
[04:30] <pleia2> nice
[04:30] <wjimenez5271> how is everyone tonight?
[04:31] <iheartubuntu> form chicago
[04:31] <iheartubuntu> unable to spell properly
[04:31] <iheartubuntu> how are you wjimenez5271
[04:31] <iheartubuntu> are you in LA area?
[04:34] <iheartubuntu> wjimenez5271 if you are anywhere near Pasadena, some of us Ubuntu users will be meeting up next month. http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/778/detail/
[04:36] <wjimenez5271> yea
[04:36] <wjimenez5271> I am in Mountain View
[04:37] <wjimenez5271> so a little bit north of Pasadena though
[04:37] <pleia2> there are monthly ubuntu meetups in mt view too (and palo alto, san jose, san francisco...)
[04:38] <iheartubuntu> more meetups are listed here http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california
[04:39] <wjimenez5271> cool
[04:39] <wjimenez5271> I have been wanting to check one out
[04:39] <wjimenez5271> been too busy
[04:41] <wjimenez5271> So what is the community team up to as of late?
[04:42] <pleia2> a bunch of us were just down in los angeles for the southern california linux expo :)
[04:42] <iheartubuntu> trying to get you to go to one
[04:42] <iheartubuntu> :)
[04:42] <pleia2> some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntu-us-ca
[04:43] <iheartubuntu> the linux expo was an incredible experience. im really energized seeing so many people interested in ubuntu
[04:43] <iheartubuntu> (and linux)
[04:44] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: darn you for mentioning beers, now I want one!
[04:44] <iheartubuntu> times up for me. i havent slept in like 3 days and i need to go to the store then finally sleep.
[04:44] <iheartubuntu> HAAAaa
[04:44] <iheartubuntu> call the grocery and have one delivered :)
[04:44] <pleia2> lol
[04:45] <pleia2> have a good night
[04:45] <iheartubuntu> just one, you dont wanna look like you are going to have too much fun
[04:45] <pleia2> "hi, please deliver one beer"
[04:45] <iheartubuntu> lets see.. .$1.25 + $11.95 delivery
[04:45] <pleia2> hahaha
[04:46] <iheartubuntu> i remember the good ol dot com days here in CA
[04:46] <iheartubuntu> u could literally do that
[04:46] <iheartubuntu> homegrocer.com and several others had free delivery
[04:46] <pleia2> a lot of food delivery places have beer on their menus
[04:47] <iheartubuntu> there was a pink delivery company... cars were all pink. it was like 7-eleven on wheels. id order a few beers :)
[04:47] <iheartubuntu> notice they are all out of business now
[04:47] <pleia2> safeway does grocery delivery, I see their trucks out all the time
[04:47] <wjimenez5271> Good stuff
[04:47] <wjimenez5271> I used to live in so-cal, Anaheim Hills to be exact
[04:47] <iheartubuntu> u have safeway up there, ours is vons
[04:47] <iheartubuntu> nice
[04:48] <wjimenez5271> yep, I remember Vons
[04:48] <iheartubuntu> i knew the vons owner growing up
[04:48] <wjimenez5271> cool, he's pretty well off I would imagine
[04:48] <iheartubuntu> nice man, big family. sold it all i guess to safeway
[04:48] <iheartubuntu> id imagine so
[04:49] <iheartubuntu> lots of famous people where im at
[04:49] <pleia2> safeway bought a lot of chains (there is a safeway owned chain in pennsylvania too)
[04:49] <iheartubuntu> i rmemeber seeing safeway in alexandria, VA too
[04:49] <iheartubuntu> they wouldnt let me use my card :(
[04:49] <iheartubuntu> "its not the same"
[04:50] <pleia2> we actually have used our safeway cards at genardi's in pennsylvania
[04:50] <pleia2> "I wonder if they will let us" "no way"
[04:50] <pleia2> WAY!
[04:50] <iheartubuntu> pleia2 do you have "Fresh & Easy" up there?
[04:50] <pleia2> I don't think so
[04:50] <iheartubuntu> http://www.freshandeasy.com/
[04:51] <eps> Yes we do ... or will soon ... on Clement
[04:51] <iheartubuntu> they built the largest central delivery facility in all of USA in riverside i think
[04:52] <iheartubuntu> expansion too quickly was the downfall of homegrocer.com back during the dot com
[04:52] <pleia2> ah, their site says they are building a couple in sf
[04:52] <wjimenez5271> They are supposedly just about to built a Fresh and Easy in Sunnyvale
[04:52] <iheartubuntu> its a british company
[04:52] <wjimenez5271> yea, they are UK based
[04:52] <iheartubuntu> i wish COOP from switzerland would come here
[04:52] <iheartubuntu> nice store
[04:53] <iheartubuntu> COOP is a co-op basically of all the farmers in switzerland
[04:53] <iheartubuntu> http://www.coop.ch/
[04:53] <iheartubuntu> really was some of the freshest food ive ever had (besides my own)
[04:54] <iheartubuntu> nhaines might have heard of it
[04:54] <iheartubuntu> and with CH so small, shipping from farm to store was what, within hours im sure
[04:55] <iheartubuntu> im out yall! have a nice evening! nice to meet you wjimenez5271 hope to see you again
[04:56] <iheartubuntu> (its really only 9pm!!!)
[04:56] <pleia2> night, iheartubuntu :)
[04:56] <iheartubuntu> nite!
[04:56] <iheartubuntu> bows
[15:48] <iheartubuntu> I found some interesting multiplayer games so far
[15:48] <iheartubuntu> frozen bubble is multiplayer
[15:49] <iheartubuntu> and there is a sherlock holmes style detective game called "London Law" in the software center
[15:49] <iheartubuntu> sounds interesting
[15:50] <iheartubuntu> one guy is the criminal, and everyone else in the game tries to find him using maps and clues
[15:51] <iheartubuntu> i realize those are alt multiplayer games, but i'll still include them. not everyone has 3D graphics cards
[15:54] <iheartubuntu> http://pessimization.com/software/londonlaw/
[16:16] <iheartubuntu> if you cannot get a hold of potassium iodide, then you can get natural kelp iodide at places like whole foods
[16:17] <iheartubuntu> i know i'll get some laughs when i buy some, but who cares :) i dont feel like glowing anytime soon
[16:17] <akk> All the news reports are saying there's going to be no measurable radiation here.
[16:17] <akk> (not saying it hurts to get some iodine, just that I'm not very worried about it)
[16:17] <iheartubuntu> i know... but there i think all of those reactors are going to melt down
[16:18] <iheartubuntu> and there is still going to be stuff in the atmosphere
[16:18] <iheartubuntu> and cancer has increased dramatically since nuclear tests have begun
[16:19] <iheartubuntu> obviously i have no scientific data.
[16:19]  * iheartubuntu raises tinfoil hat up, and then onto head
[16:24] <iheartubuntu> california dept of health does have radioactivity monitoring systems in place for air,  water and the food supply
[16:44] <iheartubuntu> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/14/article-1365781-0B2B79A700000578-902_634x410_popup.jpg
[16:51] <iheartubuntu> im just concerned because a meltdown produces 300-400x the radioactive fallout that a nuclear bomb does. a bomb goes off, it devastates and then thats it. a meltdown is much dirtier. with cores totally exploding, i dont sit easy. i doubt the government is going to warm people anyways. they are good at cover ups.
[16:53] <iheartubuntu> Iodide at CVS... http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/catalog/shop_product_detail.jsp?filterBy=&skuId=190658&productId=190658&navAction=jump&navCount=3
[16:53] <iheartubuntu> yesterday it was in stock, today? OUT OF STOCK
[17:00] <iheartubuntu> some useful links:
[17:00] <iheartubuntu> http://www.bt.cdc.gov/radiation/ki.asp
[17:00] <iheartubuntu> http://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/radiological/potassium_iodide/information_for_the_public.htm
[17:02] <iheartubuntu> I agree with pleia2 - iodide is just a stop gap procedure. a thing to do that "might" help. it only protects your thyroid
[17:04] <iheartubuntu> i guess the boy scout in me is to always be prepared. $10 is not bad just to be on the defensive, and if you can get it for free somehow, all the better (i just traded fixing my sisters wifi for a few tabs)
[17:05] <pleia2> for a laugh, you could put them on guest bed pillows
[17:05] <pleia2> (a friend of ours gave them to us as housewarming gifts)
[17:05] <iheartubuntu> that brings "housewarming" to an all new level :)
[17:06] <pleia2> "welcome to the neighborhood! did you notice that giant nuclear plant in your back yard?"
[17:08] <iheartubuntu> one of my brothers was arrested many times for protesting nuke plants here in the states... im surprised he lives in japan now. isnt most of their power source from nuclear energy?
[17:08] <iheartubuntu> i wonder if he plans to move back here now
[17:49] <iheartubuntu> reports now that the japanese nuclear plant that is having probs is a plutonium plant, not uranium and plutonium plants can produce much worse radiation levels
[17:50] <iheartubuntu> akk i did find an ubuntu app at getdeb that monitors satellites. i was going to post a link, but their website doesnt work very well for me
[17:51] <akk> What's the app?
[17:52] <iheartubuntu> getdeb used to have the DEB files on their website when they first started... then they came up with their app to install programs from their website which has never worked for me
[17:52] <iheartubuntu> the getdeb site isnt working for me right now otherwise i would pull it up
[17:52] <iheartubuntu> if it works for you try doing a search on ISS
[17:52] <iheartubuntu> or maybe "satellite"
[17:52] <akk> What I'd love is a cmdline app that keeps track of good satellites, runs from cron and emails me "There's a really good pass coming up tonight at $time".
[17:53] <akk> (but I don't care enough to write it)
[17:53] <iheartubuntu> i know nasa has a page you can have ISS and shuttle info emailed to you. you type in your coordinates and it will email you in advance
[17:54] <akk> I should look for that.
[19:00] <DarkwingDuck> iheartubuntu: I'll be answering that email over the next couple days
[19:08] <iheartubuntu> great, thank you so much David
[19:09] <DarkwingDuck> Anytime :)
[20:05] <iheartubuntu> akk - getdeb is working . here is the link to that program http://www.getdeb.net/software/SaVi
[20:05] <iheartubuntu> and the homepage http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/~worfolk/SaVi/
[20:05] <akk> Cool, thanks
[20:06] <akk> Looks useful!
[20:10] <iheartubuntu> i have probs with getdeb all the time... ive had to install things by terminal. thankfully getdeb still links to projects homepages
[20:11] <akk> I'd never heard of getdeb before you mentioned it in this context.
[20:11] <iheartubuntu> actually their site is working fine for me here at work
[20:11] <akk> I'll probably just get it from their homepage, probably try the source first even though they recommend against that.
[20:11] <iheartubuntu> i wonder if its a 32 bit or 64 bit issue
[21:13] <iheartubuntu> ok, opinion needed.
[21:13] <iheartubuntu> :)
[21:13] <iheartubuntu> i want to express something in regards to "talking about ubuntu" or "chatting about ubuntu"
[21:14] <iheartubuntu> would "hash ubuntu" be a nice attempt at that? hash symbolizing chatting with IRC.
[21:17] <iheartubuntu> http://www.radiationnetwork.com/RadiationNetwork.htm
[21:17] <iheartubuntu> radiation levels updated every 3 minutes
[21:18] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: I don't think anyone will know what "hash ubuntu" means unless they're on IRC, where they might mistake it for the official channel, or if they're on Twitter or Identica, where they might mistake it as a tag.
[21:18] <iheartubuntu> if you see it over 130 CPM i would be concerned. actually if those numbers start rising from 30 or so I would be concerned
[21:18] <nhaines> Or if they're a Python programmer, and they might mistake it as a comment.  :)
[21:21] <akk> I'm not clear on the context -- where would this #ubuntu be? Who would be hearing/seeing it?
[21:22] <iheartubuntu> a lot of people hopefully
[21:22] <iheartubuntu> (a name for a comic strip)
[21:22] <iheartubuntu> markdude is MIA
[21:23] <akk> I don't think random comic strip readers can be assumed to be familiar with IRC (unless it's a super geeky strip like xkcd, maybe)
[21:24] <akk> I would think normals would see hash and think either "hash it out" or "make a hash of something".
[21:25] <iheartubuntu> i could make ubuntu comic dispensaries then :)
[21:25] <iheartubuntu> legal only in california
[21:25] <akk> yeah, there's that hash too
[21:28] <nhaines> akk: I love corned beef hash!
[21:28] <iheartubuntu> so would you be against "hashubuntu"?
[21:29] <iheartubuntu> or... ubuntu hash
[21:29] <nhaines> -1 "hashubuntu" +1 corned beef hash
[21:29] <iheartubuntu> :)
[21:29] <akk> corned beef hash ++
[21:29] <iheartubuntu> we all digest ubuntu one way or another
[21:30] <akk> "hashbuntu" first says to me "we're going to argue about it (hash it out)"
[21:30]  * nhaines needs to try an ubutini.
[21:30] <akk> or else "ubuntu is a big mess and that's what we're talking about here"
[21:30] <nhaines> I need to print out the recipe and go to a nice restaurant with a bar.  I'll bring the Tang.
[21:33] <iheartubuntu> ubuntu soup
[22:29]  * iheartubuntu has potassium iodide pill in hand and is sketching a "get out of dodge" scenario
[22:29] <iheartubuntu> just in case
[23:08] <pleia2> hmm, what happened to Eureka?
[23:10] <iheartubuntu> ??
[23:11] <pleia2> Flannel's bot that would tell us of wiki updates
[23:11] <pleia2> anyway, added a berkeley jam to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/NattyGlobalJam
[23:13] <iheartubuntu> ohhh whew
[23:13] <iheartubuntu> i thought it was Eureka, CA
[23:13] <DarkwingDuck> Good question
[23:14] <jtatum> iheartubuntu: you seem a bit jumpy :)
[23:14] <iheartubuntu> :)
[23:14] <iheartubuntu> my brother is in Japan
[23:15] <iheartubuntu> no news is good news
[23:22] <iheartubuntu> is there a way to recall eureka back online?
[23:23] <nhaines> Necronomicon?
[23:24] <iheartubuntu> :)