[00:00] <MeanEYE> am about to go to bed, ask at #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:00] <Kilian]> is there a more offical chan with some developers and communitymanagers of *buntu ?
[00:00] <joeb_> arand- ubuntu 10.10 is squeeze ?
[00:00] <MeanEYE> Kilian]: #ayantana?
[00:00] <MeanEYE> ayatana*
[00:00] <arand> joeb_: No, ubuntu versions don't corelate to debian stable versions, they are synced from unstable/testing independently.
[00:01] <hiexpo> josh_, http://pastebin.com/6TMEZZL9
[00:01] <Kilian]> MeanEYE: thx
[00:01] <jethrot> will someone test my linux console editor on their system?
[00:01] <MeanEYE> Kilian]: that's where you can discuss newer features and stuff like that... btu am not sure how many ubuntu developers are there
[00:02] <RubenAlonzo> has anyone seen the old video of Yellow Ledbetter's misheard lyrics? damn im old or something cause i just saw it and its funny as heckk.
[00:02] <Kilian]> MeanEYE: i only need one guy u can explain how to add a repository via oneclickbutton
[00:02] <MeanEYE> Kilian]: what's one click button?
[00:03] <Kilian]> MeanEYE: http://www.unknown-horizons.org/download/linux/
[00:03] <Kilian]> the one-click install link
[00:03] <Kilian]> ican only install packages but not add an repository
[00:03] <Kilian]> doesnt found any official information about that
[00:03] <RubenAlonzo> Does anyone know how to adjust sensitivity of netbook little trackpad thing right above the click bar, its used to navigate about like a mouse but mine seems a bit overly sensitive to me and i would like to adjust it?
[00:04] <shcherbak> jethrot: Where is code?
[00:04] <Kilian]> only some bloags saying there is a whitelist, where your repository have to be added
[00:04] <RubenAlonzo> Also can anyone recoomend a good easy to use backup utility please?
[00:04] <Kilian]> MeanEYE: its any apturl button
[00:04] <Kilian]> RubenAlonzo: git
[00:05] <ExplodingPiglets> how do I install minecraft?
[00:05] <RubenAlonzo> Kilian]: just git? thats the name?
[00:05] <MeanEYE> Kilian]: I think that's security feature... what would happen if you could trick users in installing custom ppa that would provide faulty packages?
[00:05] <Kilian]> or did you mean for personal files ?
[00:05] <ExplodingPiglets> I downloaded it but I have no idea how to install it
[00:05] <Jeruvy> !backup | RubenAlonzo
[00:05] <electronplusplus> jk
[00:05] <Kilian]> MeanEYE: there are linksk in the net who can add a repository, so there have to be a whitelist ;)
[00:06] <RubenAlonzo> thanks all, be back after i search it out to compare ease of use and get it going.
[00:06] <Lint01> how to get f..king metacity to start by itself&
[00:06] <jethrot> shcherbak: on sourceforge
[00:07] <jethrot> https://sourceforge.net/projects/fed/files/
[00:07] <jethrot> http://sourceforge.net/projects/fed/files/
[00:07] <josh_> hiexpo: eh =s The url's failing make sense, but  a look online suggests to maybe try changing sources in system/admin/software sources in the menu. That might be moot though.
[00:07] <jethrot> sorry no s
[00:07] <cryptodira> i foolishly upgraded to 10.10 from 10.04.2..... is it possible to revert to 10.04.2 WITHOUT having to format?  10.10 amd/64
[00:07] <josh_> hiexpo: also, some people say trying to update through aptitude.
[00:08] <Kilian]> MeanEYE: and my question is where is the whitelist and who is maintaining it
[00:08] <Lint01> cryptodira, not with apt-*
[00:08] <[thor]> Has there been an app created to set the theme on the GDM Greeter screen? The application in the software center ( gdmsetup ) does not seem to work, nor does a suggested application downloaded from launchpad ( gdm2setup ).
[00:08] <Jeruvy> cryptodira: there is no easy direct path.  Most would suggest just reinstalling.
[00:08] <MeanEYE> Kilian]: no clue, and that's the scary part
[00:08] <MeanEYE> atm in ubuntu my guess would be it's just ubuntu repository
[00:08] <Polah> Is there a way to automatically shift icons on panels to one side? So they all stack up neatly?
[00:08] <Kilian]> MeanEYE: any idea where i can get the information ?
[00:09] <grusum> cryptodira, why do u say "foolishly" - what's wrong with 10.10?
[00:09] <cryptodira> Lint01, figured that... thanks
[00:09] <OvermindDL2> So who here knows about upstart?
[00:09] <cryptodira> Jeruvy, ok, thanks
[00:09] <Jeruvy> Polah: right click on the icon, unlock then move where youlike.
[00:10] <OvermindDL2> I am trying to make a new job, goes very well right now, however how do I have it respond to more events without, say, creating a new .conf file for ever single possible event?
[00:10] <Sean93> I'm about to write a series of long commands and I would like to do it in the terminal because I like to tab the end of file names. but i dont want to hit enter bby accident. what im asking is is there a way to prevent my terminal from being able to execute commands for a while or is there some what to tab the end of file names in a text editor?
[00:10] <Polah> Jeruvy: I know I can do that, I want to automatically stack them so they're neatly together
[00:10] <cryptodira> grusum, in my case... amd64... flash, wireless, sd card reader, a functional boot method image viewer and a few other items are Broken.
[00:11] <Jeruvy> Polah: no idea sorry.
[00:11] <tjiggi_fo> hiexpo, most of them are source archives so unnecessary unless you'll be building from source or doing development coding
[00:11] <hiexpo> josh_, yes i understand the getdebs are down but the hash nismatch makes no sense and it has been working fine until yesturday
[00:11] <OvermindDL2> In old SysV scripts I could make as many 'commands' as I wanted easily, how do you do that in upstart?
[00:12] <hiexpo> tjiggi_fo, i do build a lot from source
[00:12] <grusum> cryptodira, I had the same prob on my Lenova S10 netbook but worked them out . . .
[00:12] <josh_> hiexpo: one of the (old) posts I saw suggests the us servers were down at the time. What does aptitude update yield (do you have aptitude)?
[00:12] <grusum> cryptodira, using the 32 bit Ubuntu 10.10
[00:13] <josh_> hiexpo: or does apt just keep aptitude from working? :(
[00:13] <hiexpo> josh_, let me see
[00:13] <arand> Sean93: http://www.fuzz.dk/software/vim/filename_completion maybe?
[00:13] <cryptodira> grusum, update manager reports: nothing to update.  the ati drivers, while on the hd are not activatable, the boot is a nightmare of choosing one of the 3 recovery choices... and powering down just as it completes... then rebooting and choosing the same kernel normally....
[00:13] <victor__> hola
[00:14] <Polah> Jeruvy: I found that if I right click then move I can slide them up against ones that are already locked to get them as close together as possible
[00:14] <cryptodira> grusum, 64 bit amd here, ,,,  the sd card reader worked flawlessly under 10.04... now it is NOT even seen
[00:14] <grusum> cryptodira, sorry ur having probs - I wish u well.
[00:14] <hiexpo> josh_, aptitude works
[00:14] <cryptodira> grusum, me too.... Thanks!
[00:16] <josh_> hiexpo: WEIRD, heh. At least that works. if aptitude doesn't complain, maybe it 'fixed' the problem (but probably not).
[00:16] <cryptodira> booting the 10.04 cd results in little square boxes in place of fonts.... how can i fix this so that i can reinstall 10.04 ?
[00:16]  * dannyLopez68 cena
[00:16] <hiexpo> josh_, no it didn't fix it and yes that is wierd
[00:17] <MeanEYE> Kilian]: not really
[00:17] <jethrot> will someone test my linux console editor on their system?
[00:17] <MeanEYE> jethrot: mail it to me meaneye.rcf et gmail
[00:17] <MeanEYE> jethrot: I'll try it tmw
[00:18] <Sean93> arand, i use gedit, forgot to mention that
[00:18] <josh_> hiexpo: did 'system/admin/software sources' have the main sources? Give me a second as I fire mine up, that way I have an idea as to what to help with.
[00:18] <hiexpo> why is aptitude working and not apt josh_
[00:19] <MeanEYE> hiexpo: aptitude has better package resolving abilities maybe because of that
[00:19] <cryptodira> booting the 10.04 cd results in little square boxes in place of alpha/numeric.... how can i fix this so that i can reinstall 10.04 ?
[00:21] <josh_> hiexpo: I 'onno. =s
[00:21] <kioku> hey ubuntu's, i need help installing distribution version 10.04 onto a Toshiba Sattelite and i am having a realy hard time.
[00:22] <kioku> it currently runs windows xp, and i have tried 3 times to install it through the cd
[00:22] <Rummage> kioku: I have one of those, what's the issue?
[00:22] <josh_> hiexpo: I (finally) got software sources up. on the first tab is the 'Download from' selector. If you're like me and have it set to 'Server for United States', maybe changing it to main server could help.
[00:22] <kioku> it goes all the way through till the end of the installation, and then it tells me "permission denied"
[00:23] <Rummage> Okay, can you boot the LiveCD?
[00:23] <kioku> when i reboot, it gives be the keyboard looking icon "=" the person with the circle around it, and never moves from there.
[00:23] <Rummage> O_o
[00:23] <Rummage> That shouldn't happen, to say the least.
[00:24] <kioku> well, the part where it says "permission denied" is where the cd is in the drive, and i try to install inside windows.
[00:24] <cryptodira> Rummage, would you happen to be running amd64 on your satellite?  if so, I have a few questions when you are done helping kioku.
[00:24] <Rummage> I'd suggest booting the CD itself.
[00:24] <kioku> and when i reboot, it gives me those weird icons at the bottom of the screen, and has a dark purple background.
[00:24] <Rummage> cryptodira: My answers will mostly be *FACEDESK*, but sure.
[00:25] <Rummage> kioku: That's the options screen. It should automagically try to boot from that, but if it isn't that suggests there's some underlying issues.
[00:25] <kioku> i changed the boot bios to where it boots from the cd, and that is where it gives me the weird icons
[00:25] <cryptodira> Rummage, :) thanks, i will watch how kioku works out.
[00:25] <kioku> yeah, it gives me the purple screen with the two icons on the bottom and nothing else. It just stops from there.
[00:26] <Rummage> Okay. Suggestion: When you get to that screen, hit a button and it should bring you to an options menu.
[00:26] <kioku> what button?
[00:26] <Rummage> Any.
[00:26] <kioku> i did
[00:26] <Rummage> Except the power one :|
[00:26] <Rummage> It doesn't give you the options menu?
[00:26] <kioku> i tried all the function keys, enter, space, some letter keys, esc, and others.
[00:26] <kioku> nope, nothing.
[00:27] <kioku> it doesn't even give me a cursor
[00:27] <Rummage> Huh. Now that's pretty interesting. That suggests there is something really fundamentally wrong.
[00:27] <cryptodira> kioku, did you verify the hash on the cd?
[00:27] <kioku> hash?
[00:28] <Rummage> kioku: It's the value given to the CD image which proves it's correctly downloaded.
[00:28] <kioku> im tech savvy, but not THAT tech savvy
[00:28] <kioku> lol
[00:28] <kioku> im not sure
[00:28] <kioku> how would i do that
[00:28] <Rummage> However, this doesn't help you if you have a really bad CD Burner.
[00:28] <kioku> well, no.
[00:28] <kioku> i didn't download it
[00:28] <kioku> it was a mailed in cd
[00:29] <Rummage> Huh. Those are almost guaranteed to be solid.
[00:29] <kioku> 10.04 LTS
[00:29] <kioku> yeah, i used it on my DELL inspiron, and it worked perfectly.
[00:29] <Rummage> But it doesn't work on your satellite?
[00:29] <kioku> so it is definitely not the cd
[00:29] <kioku> nope
[00:29] <kioku> it doesn't work on the satellite.
[00:29] <Rummage> Okay. Do you know if your satellite is the right architecture?
[00:30] <kioku> i have no idea
[00:30] <Rummage> E.g. using an AMD64 cd with a 64-bit satellite
[00:30] <kioku> oh, like does it meet the requirements?
[00:30] <Rummage> It doesn't stop you from proceeding in most cases, of course, I accidentally installed 32b Ubuntu on a 64b system once.
[00:30] <jasa> You know i was watching the BBC News on the satellite side and the translator person doing japanese into english takes all the attention by the way she speaks, rather uncertain of what to say.
[00:30] <Rummage> Meh, I'm probably barking up the wrong tree.
[00:31] <Rummage> My first instinct is to back up all the useful data from the laptop and hard format the disc.
[00:31] <kioku> i did that already
[00:31] <Rummage> Which is somewhat overkill.
[00:31] <kioku> i have a 1 TB
[00:31] <kioku> External HD
[00:31] <Rummage> Same here, actually.
[00:31] <kioku> and everything is on there already
[00:31] <kioku> if i can, i would, delete everything, and insert the cd.
[00:32] <Rummage> Interesting. So is there anything that boots on the satellite?
[00:32] <kioku> well, all i have is this ubuntu cd 10.04, but other than that, Windows XP is on it right now.
[00:32] <kioku> Service Pack 3
[00:33] <kioku> 2002 version
[00:33] <Rummage> So XP boots?
[00:33] <jasa> 10.10 and Win7 dual booting, going to swap Ubuntu into new OpenSUSE release.
[00:33] <kioku> what do you suggest i do Rummage?
[00:34] <jasa> Slight issue was with the hard drive side of putting some type of dirty bit on windows partition and had to edit registery so it won't scan drive during booting Win7.
[00:34] <Rummage> The thing that gets me is that "permission denied" - You get that within XP when installing Ubuntu to a different partition?
[00:35] <Mitchell4500> Hello. I have 2 server machinces in my house right now and Im running a small webhosting bissiness and im going to be adding another machine and I was thinking of ubuntu. Anyone have some good tips?
[00:35] <kioku> well, no. I get that when i try to install it seperately from inside windows.
[00:35] <Rummage> Mitchell: Ubuntu Server pretty much covers all your needs. That or go to a server specific distro.
[00:35] <MnCC> is there a way to open a taskmanager when a process fails (like in windows) ?
[00:35] <kioku> what i want to do, is just replace windows with ubuntu though.
[00:36] <kioku> i don't want to dual boot
[00:36] <Rummage> kioku: That is actually what I asked. Hm.
[00:36] <cryptodira> Rummage, it is interesting that kioku gets permission denied.... i am in a similar situation where when any choice from the choices screen (booting from cd) i get a hung cursor.
[00:36] <Rummage> cryptodira: Did you give it like 5-10 minutes?
[00:37] <Rummage> Seriously, it takes a balls-long time for it to even get to the Ubuntu (dot dot dot dot) splash screen on my satellite.
[00:37] <cryptodira> Rummage, only 7 minutes... this is on the 10.10 cd on 10.10 installed.
[00:37] <grendal_prime_> im trying to get inotifywait to do what i want...anyone have any experiece with it?
[00:38] <grendal_prime_> it does what i want..then closes.  I guess i need to daemonize my script?
[00:38] <safeWay> few days ago i did some command someone told me and now i can watch youtube videos in fullscreen
[00:38] <Rummage> cryptodira: Okay, this is after the options screen?
[00:38] <safeWay> how to enable it again?
[00:38] <cryptodira> Rummage, i will give it more time.....  yes. after options
[00:38] <Rummage> kioku: I am really not sure what to tell you.
[00:38] <kioku> well, Rummage, i waited about a half an hour before i stopped it because i know that it shouldn't take that long.
[00:38] <jasa> Rummage, slow booting ? You could just try taking the network service from starting during boot and add some quick thing start when desktop has came.
[00:39] <Rummage> cryptodira: Okay, this time when you boot, I want you to open the options screen (hit a key at the keyboard/man screen), go to extra options, and select acpi=off, noapic, and nomodeset, then try booting.
[00:39] <Rummage> jasa: on a LiveCD?
[00:40] <jasa> Rummage, sorry i think i missed chat line or word from your side, yeah those can be slow.
[00:40] <AlecUbuntuUser> heya guys, I just thought i'd ask as i can't get a yes/no answer, from the same year, I have an x-fi sound card, can one get the crystaliser to work? is it even posible.
[00:40] <Rummage> cryptodira: That mostly tries to bypass your hard disk, operating on the assumption that it is what is causing the hang.
[00:41] <shaowsad> holle
[00:41] <Rummage> I'm suspicious of your hard disk because that is exactly what went wrong on mine.
[00:41] <jasa> AlecUbuntuUser, i think the crystaliser is software made thing, so it would require coders add familiar functionality and name it into something.
[00:42] <cryptodira> Rummage, booting 10.10 from the HD, give me 3 kernel options with recovery mode for each....none of which boot without choosing a recovery option first... and powering down just as soon as the last script runs... then rebooting and choosing that kernel...the kicker, is that it is NEVER the same kernel that works 2 times in a row...    in regards to your last 2 comments, i made note of them and will try that approach.
[00:42] <AlecUbuntuUser> Jasa, could you point me in the direction of something like.... a graphic equaliser for ubuntu 10.10 x64 please? alot of google results are out-datad; seems Alsa is new
[00:43] <Rummage> cryptodira: That REALLY sounds like your hard disk. Shifting errors suggests read errors on the disc.
[00:43] <AlecUbuntuUser> cryptodira: can you put a live cd mount the drive then do "sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg" remove splash and quiet from the arguments of boot, then see where it stops
[00:43] <AlecUbuntuUser> this will provide some idea at least.
[00:43] <jasa> AlecUbuntuUser, it was on before i went reading some claim of it's software made thing while i was looking drivers for x-fi, don't use the x-fi currently and not sure of functionality today.
[00:44] <redduck666> where is good place to get support for ec2? no idea why it seems to failing to create an AMI, closest i got was extra dangling EBS volumne, but that doesn't seem to be my case http://dpaste.com/498027/ . any ideas what am i doing wrong?
[00:44] <josh_> AlecUbuntuUser: I know you said graphical.. for Alsa I use alsamixer :) I just saw that going by though and haven't been following the convo. Maybe helps?
[00:44] <illmortal> sweet... Ubuntu 10.10 recognized my Razor keyboard haha
[00:44] <AlecUbuntuUser> I know about alsamixer, my old card was an Audigy 4, that had base and treble sliders, this doesn't
[00:44] <Rummage> cryptodira: Seriously, if and or when you manage to boot, ddrescue that entire partition.
[00:45] <jasa> AlecUbuntuUser, if there is only 1 slider showing then it should be that your using pulseaudio daemon on top of alsa audio etc.
[00:45] <redduck666> anyone?
[00:45] <AlecUbuntuUser> jasa: i'm getting more then one slider, but they are volumes of different aspects
[00:45] <intok> why is it impossible to take a screenshot of movie player/totem?
[00:46] <AlecUbuntuUser> also generic: ( jasa ) 5.1 optical yay or nay?
[00:47] <cryptodira> Rummage, i will certainly give that a try.... just an fyi: trying to boot the 10.04 disk on this 10.10 system results in little boxes in place of the alpha/numeric characters.... 10.10 has broken a bunch of stuff on this machine... i would like to go back to 10.04.2 if your suggestions fail.
[00:47] <oh_noes> how do I allow a user to "sudo -u FOOBAR -i"  -- do I need to manually specify that command as a Cmnd_Alias
[00:47] <aeon-ltd> intok: details? i can and have seen others do the same
[00:47] <oh_noes> Or is there a nice way to say "allow USER to change to FOOBAR"
[00:47] <Rummage> cryptodira: I don't know how to do that. This is just my experience. I am, in all honestly, currently still running a rescue operation on the hard disk. It's possible there's a consistent defect in satellites.
[00:47] <jasa> AlecUbuntuUser, hard to say much into that, you could try or read from internet for ready answer.
[00:48] <NCS_One> hi
[00:49] <intok>  aeon-ltd when I try it replaces the image of the paused video with a zoomed in section of the middle of the frame, the rest of the screen is grabbed as normal
[00:49] <jasa> AlecUbuntuUser, on alsa-project site there should be list if being updated what are the current capabilities using alsa.
[00:49] <sabgenton> g redhat has chkconfig --list to see every services runlevel
[00:49] <NCS_One> how can I kill the file manager window window? it stopped working
[00:49] <sabgenton> how do I do this in debian/ubuntu?
[00:49] <cryptodira> Rummage, there may indeed be some ubuntu related defects in these satellites... do you happen to have the backlite keyboard... and if so, does it work beyond POST?
[00:50] <sabgenton> (g was a typo)
[00:50] <AlecUbuntuUser> jasa: i'm not lazy, i've f*cked up two installatons trying to do this....
[00:50] <aeon-ltd> intok: odd, keep asking and show the screenshot to the channel
[00:51] <kioku> Rummage, i have some more information for my situation
[00:51] <sabgenton> is there anyway to list runlevels of an app?
[00:51] <jrib> !runlevel | sabgenton
[00:51] <Rummage> cryptodira; No backlight keyboard.
[00:51] <Rummage> kioku: Shoot
[00:51] <jasa> AlecUbuntuUser, it should not be re-installation needed issue of, like if you want alsa, you could remove pulse daemon from starting and made sure application use alsa, add packages of libsdl1.2-alsa rather than pulse etc.
[00:52] <jasa> AlecUbuntuUser, for making certain somewhat that pulse won't start there is option in /etc/pulse and some file for autospawn to "no" also just to make sure you could remove some packages that don't remove gnome-panel or gnome-session.
[00:52] <sabgenton> jrib: ok but how do I see if a programs been update-rc.d ed?
[00:53] <kioku> Rummage, http://pastebin.com/YZBiyJS9
[00:53] <jrib> sabgenton: what do you want to accomplish exactly?  Most init scripts have been migrated over to upstart
[00:53] <AlecUbuntuUser> jasa - copy and paste terminal extracts + sudo + from a dated source = irreprable damage
[00:53] <jasa> AlecUbuntuUser, point me one.
[00:53] <cryptodira> Rummage, mount /media is returning : can't find /media in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab   .... is that the incorrect command?
[00:54] <kioku> Rummage, on the permission denied window, it asked me to look at that file.
[00:55] <Rummage> cryptodira: That is most definitely not the whole command.
[00:55] <sabgenton> jrib: if I had to go out of my way to do update-rc.d  foo default
[00:55] <Rummage> mount goes like so: mount -options /sourcedevice /mountpoint/
[00:56] <sabgenton> where do I see this change
[00:56] <kioku> Rummage, are you looking at it?
[00:56] <sabgenton> if I come back latter and can't remmber if I did it
[00:56] <jrib> sabgenton: why do you keep referring to update-rc.d?
[00:56] <Rummage> kioku: Yeah. Do you have any idea where the important lines are?
[00:56] <cryptodira> Rummage, got it... grub.config says to NOT edit this file....
[00:56] <Rummage> For instance, /media/ is generally a mountpoint, not a source device.
[00:56] <kioku> Rummage, not to this, not really.
[00:57] <jrib> sabgenton: you can check the status of the old sysv-init scripts using sysvrc-conf but as I keep repeating to you, scripts are migrating to use upstart, not sysv-init
[00:57] <sabgenton> jrib: isn't that the defualt way to make a service come on at boot?
[00:57] <jrib> sabgenton: no, that's the old way
[00:57] <sabgenton> oh whats the new way?
[00:57] <jrib> !upstart | sabgenton
[00:57] <sabgenton> oh all making sence now
[00:58] <sabgenton> great so I'm asking a nolonger suported  quesition
[00:58] <Rummage> cryptodira: For instance, mounting my usb drive goes like so: mount -o /dev/sdd /media/USBNAME/
[00:59] <Rummage> kioku: I'm reduced to google-is-my-friend territory.
[01:00] <jasa> Yeah google most of the time works.
[01:00] <Rummage> kioku: This looks VERY relevant to you: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1134058.html
[01:00] <cryptodira> Rummage, got, made the changes... will be back eventually (i hope)  Thanks for your Help!
[01:00] <Rummage> cryptodira: Good luck, I probably won't be here.
[01:01] <jasa> And finally the same news and clips go for few days on, they should have send some own personel there on to get more updated news.
[01:01] <Belial`> is there anyone here with a laptop using optimus and running the proprietary nvidia driver?
[01:01] <Logan_> !anyone | Belial`
[01:03] <sabgenton> jrib: sorry to be naive but how do I find if something is going to start on boot with upstart?
[01:03] <Belial`> alright, i have a laptop that has optimus. when i enable the nvidia driver from restricted drivers, i reboot, but then x doesn't fire up. i get stuck in console. it tells me there's no device and no screen.
[01:03] <jrib> sabgenton: read it's configuration file in /etc/init
[01:04] <cn1209> hello.. How can I run applications without needing to type in sudo. I've tried adding the user to the root group...still no luck. Getting permission errors.
[01:04] <kioku> Rummage, so it looks like WUBI isn't good for this computer?
[01:05] <jrib> cn1209: you don't.  What do you want to do exactly and why?
[01:05] <kioku> or, would i need to do an extra step that I am just not seeing?
[01:05] <jasa> cn1209, "sudo su" gets thing into root area, so only one using of thing and it stays there.
[01:06] <jrib> jasa: "sudo -i" is preferred to "sudo su"
[01:06] <jasa> cn1209, but then again indeed when sudo is being done it does not ask confirmation for a while after, only use in longer usage.
[01:06] <cn1209> jrib: I'm trying to run crashplan.com app to backup files offsite. The thing is when I run the app I have to run it as root ("sudo") and the I get errors when it tries to read the files. So I'm thinking the app is running as sudo and not the user that has full permissions to the files ("files are on an network storage")
[01:07] <jrib> cn1209: then run it as the right user?
[01:07] <cn1209> jrib: I mean the app seems to be running as root
[01:07] <Rummage> kioku: I would think not, but it seems you can't boot from the CD directly, which eliminates the other option.
[01:07] <cn1209> jrib: The app was installed using root. I guess I can reinstall it using my new user account.
[01:08] <jrib> cn1209: well you made the statement that it needs to run as a certain user so I'm advising you based on that statement
[01:09] <earthling_> Is there something like this in ubuntu?  http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/accessibility/snapto.mspx
[01:09] <earthling_> mouse cursor goes to the dialogue button automatically
[01:09] <jrib> earthling_: yes, there's a plug-in for compiz.  Ask #compiz about it
[01:09] <jrib> earthling_: oh.  Thought you meant something else.  Ignore me.
[01:09] <earthling_> ok, will check,thx
[01:09] <earthling_> oh?
[01:10] <jasa> earthling_, i really do hope there is no such functionality in Linux side at all.
[01:10] <sabgenton> jrib: so for system v stuff that  isn't in /etc/init as upstart script  I can apt-get install sysvrc-conf ?
[01:10] <earthling_> jasa, why?
[01:10] <jrib> sabgenton: yes
[01:11] <sabgenton> ok cool I feel beter now
[01:11] <earthling_> it saves time, dragging the mouse cursor each time there is a dialog button
[01:11] <sabgenton> jrib: I spose I should take down all my system v stuff and convert it to upstart
[01:12] <jasa> earthling_, well sure, but they could actually just remove whole mouse actually and only allow users have "tab+space", tab into choice of Yes/No and press space to use the selected function.
[01:12] <kioku> What would you suggest I do Rummage?
[01:12] <earthling_> jasa, that would be neat too
[01:13] <jasa> = )
[01:15] <sabgenton> jrib: can't see the package to install it
[01:15] <sabgenton> :(
[01:16] <sabgenton>  sysvrc-conf
[01:16] <jrib> sabgenton: sysv-rc-conf
[01:16] <skullboy> open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[01:16] <Jasonn> skullboy: whats your point?
[01:16] <sabgenton> thx
[01:16] <Jasonn> Anyone know of an XBMC alternative?
[01:17] <skullboy> jasonn: i get that when i run fbset
[01:17] <nullset1> uit
[01:17] <genewitch> how do i change what is in $DISPLAY? it's stuck on my other computer's :10.0 and i need it to be on :0
[01:17] <Jasonn> skullboy: I would start off my creating that directory ;)
[01:18] <Rummage> kioku: Sorry, things went to hell for a minute. You need anything?
[01:18] <Jasonn> skullboy: or run the command as sudo
[01:19] <ironfoot495> hey where are you
[01:20] <sabgenton> jrib: what was the last systemV supporting  ubuntu
[01:20] <sabgenton> ?
[01:21] <sabgenton> out of interest?
[01:21] <jrib> sabgenton: I don't remember.  Guess: 7.10
[01:21] <sabgenton> ok see
[01:21] <jrib> sabgenton: note, the sysv-init scripts still get run.  Upstart runs them so as not to cause issues
[01:22] <Xunie> http://pastebin.com/NwipzXUn << Is this some ubuntu thing? With sda2 going through sda5 and sda6?
[01:22] <Xunie> cfdisk doesn't like it, nor do I...
[01:22] <sabgenton> yes but I have not implemented that management :/
[01:22] <sabgenton> :)
[01:23] <Jasonn> Any XBMC alternatives?
[01:23] <Jasonn> or a prog to stream videos from an HTTP server?
[01:24] <sabgenton> Xunie: is  that an extend partion?
[01:24] <jrib> sabgenton: what do you mean, you haven't implemented what?
[01:24] <Lint01> skullboy, that's ok
[01:24] <Xunie> sabgenton, I don't know.
[01:24] <Xunie> It says it right there, but cfdisk doesn't like it man.
[01:25] <sabgenton> jrib: It appers I am not using upstart to start somethings
[01:25] <jon_athon> if i closed something without saving, is there any way to recover?
[01:25] <sabgenton> is all I mean
[01:25] <LogicallyDashing> I'm trying to make a live pen drive of Ubuntu with a persistence file in which the home directory is encrypted. I tried setting up ecryptfs, then making the disc image by the instructions in the wiki, and that seemed to work until I tried logging in on the drive itself, whereupon I couldn't mount the encrypted filesystem. I think I'm going about this the wrong way, what should I do?
[01:25] <jasa> I wonder has anyone actually being so much annoyed as i was or have been some time around, still finally finding it does not get into folks at all, still they finally allow existance of such matters.
[01:25] <carolina> Hi every One!
[01:26] <joox> hi
[01:26] <sabgenton> Xunie: /dev/sda2           12158      121602   879105025    5  Extended
[01:26] <sabgenton> 5 and 6 are  probely siting inside 2
[01:26] <carolina> I'm new in ubuntu and i'd like to ask you some help
[01:26] <TChief> would anyone help me with my wireless adapter, im very new to linux
[01:26] <TChief> would anyone help me with my wireless adapter, im very new to linux
[01:27] <LogicallyDashing> !ask | TChief
[01:27] <jon_athon> someone please tell me there is a way to recover my work
[01:27] <jon_athon> I just closed 4 hours worth of work and accidentally hit discard
[01:28] <sabgenton> Xunie: if you partioned everthing as a primarys it would look normal
[01:28] <sabgenton> to you
[01:28] <pooltable> help i like to start over with a fresh installed with 11.4 but is there a way to print out a list of all the items i have installed now or a real fast way to start fresh but save some king of back up
[01:28] <Xunie> sabgenton, I did not partition it myself.
[01:28] <sabgenton> Xunie: extend partions are not unnormal though
[01:28] <carolina> ok!! I installed ubuntu in my netbook and my microphone doesn't work, what can i do?
[01:28] <Xunie> Well, I take that back. The ubuntu installer (from the live CD) had a partitioning tool, I used that.
[01:29] <jasa> pooltable, for settings usually the home folder of user should store those all.
[01:29] <nit-wit> carolina, did you right click the icon and look around?
[01:29] <TChief> how do i install ath9k for my AR9285 adapter ?
[01:29] <pooltable> jasa so just copy the home folder ???
[01:29] <sabgenton> Xunie: you can only have a maximum of 4 primary partions
[01:30] <intok> aeon-ltd Well I found this issue when trying to show another one I'm having with Totem and Mplayer here on 10.10 PPC http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4701/screenshotcpg.png
[01:30] <sabgenton> Xunie: if you make at least one of the 4 extended the extented partion can be broken it to many partions
[01:30] <jasa> pooltable, it should be really enough on if you mean with installed things that of settings you use on those and how you modified some programs a bit.
[01:30] <sabgenton> In your case 5 and 6
[01:30] <jon_athon> someone please tell me there is a way to recover my work
[01:30] <skullboy> jasonn: i get that when i run fbset
[01:30] <sabgenton> check there type in fdisk though I'm just guessing
[01:31] <Xunie> sabgenton, I only need three partitions. two for Linux, (/ and /home), and one for windows.
[01:31] <pooltable> jasa ok just copy the whole home folder ???
[01:31] <LogicallyDashing> TChief: I think there are already atheros drivers shipped with Ubuntu, have you tested?
[01:31] <nit-wit> Xunie, are you having problems or just trying to understand the partitioning?
[01:31] <TChief> im using backtrack 4r2 though
[01:32] <sabgenton> Xunie: ok well you have a 4th u can make extended with that game plain :)
[01:32] <carolina> yes I did
[01:32] <jrib> sabgenton: yes, that's because not all packages have been converted yet
[01:32] <sabgenton> Xunie: of cause you have to reformat
[01:32] <LogicallyDashing> jon_athon: in the terminal, go to the folder where you saved it, and type ls -a, and hope that there was an auto-backup file
[01:32] <jasa> pooltable, i have not done so myself actually yet that is, but it should be somewhat the way of if nothing you could quickly check the arguement if it works with google.
[01:32] <sabgenton> jrib:oh
[01:32] <LogicallyDashing> jon_athon: it'll probably have a name that starts with ~ or something
[01:32] <Niglop> when i ns info someone, it says 'services root administrator.' What is that?
[01:32] <Xunie> nit-wit, both.
[01:32] <jon_athon> k, well I didn't save it at all... it was still untitled
[01:33] <carolina> I found the enter volumen and gave it all but it still doesn't work
[01:33] <LogicallyDashing> jon_athon: I dunno, man
[01:33] <nit-wit> Xunie, do you understan the benifits of the extended partition?
[01:33] <jasa> intok, if you have an issue with no picture showing you could try adding gstreamer-plugins-bad, gstreamer-plugins-ugly etc there without those debug things or more of add an "medibuntu" reposity for more codecs to show videos.
[01:33] <jon_athon> nothing there
[01:33] <jon_athon> f
[01:33] <sabgenton> jrib: gee you were almost talkingto me like I shoul't have anything not upstart
[01:33] <carolina> I don't know if i need a driver my microphone
[01:34] <Xunie> nit-wit, no, and I'd like to get rid of it.
[01:34] <intok> jasa check the pic, I've got every codec under the sun
[01:35] <kbuzz> is it possible to boot a live iso from usb stick on a macbook?
[01:35] <jasa> intok, i did look the picture it was all black and by some odds you don't have all things if nothing is showing or the feed itself is corrupted in some way of or not functional at all.
[01:36] <nit-wit> Xunie, actually you want it. It will allow you to have logical partitions inside for Ubuntu, as many as you can fit in there. While leaving the outside as primary types that are needed to boot windows. It is to your advantage to have the whole Ubuntu set up inside the extendeed, but that is your decision. I just want to make sure you know your options.:)
[01:36] <Jon--> Can anyone be kind enough to look at this script and tell me why it doesn't work 100% of the time? Goal: bring gnome-terminal to current workspace and set focus it regardless of where it is if open. What it actually does: Only works about half the time, other half totally breaks until you manually set focus the window again. Code: http://pastebin.com/wZrKpGYz
[01:36] <Jon--> TL;DR: Why you no work!?  http://pastebin.com/wZrKpGYz
[01:36] <Xunie> nit-wit, seems like a neat plan, but one problem: Can I resize an extended partition?
[01:36] <nit-wit> uni4dfx, Oh yes
[01:37] <nit-wit> Xunie, close oh yes
[01:37] <Xunie> Because as far as I can see, sda2 (the extended partition) is a 'container'.
[01:37] <gastaldi> hey
[01:38] <nit-wit> Xunie, to resize use the gparted partitioner on a live cd, and turn off the swap with a right click, and swap off then right click the extended or any other and resize.
[01:38] <bittin> Hello you know of any good Linux for an old Powerbook G3 Wallstreet?
[01:39] <nit-wit> Xunie, your correct that it is a container but flexible it will resize to unallocated space.
[01:39] <Xunie> nit-wit, sda6 is empty, I can do it from my booted system, don't need live for that.
[01:39] <Xunie> nit-wit, "resize the unallocated space"?
[01:39] <nit-wit> Xunie, as long as you turn the swap off and it is not the OS your booted into's partition yeah.
[01:40] <Xunie> I have fdisk open right now, I deleted /dev/sda6, this will not resize the extended partition, right?
[01:40] <nit-wit> Xunie, resize into unallocated space.
[01:41] <nit-wit> Xunie,  think you can but use gpparted you may need to install it .
[01:41] <intok> jasa the playback is like that in every video in totem and mplayer, playback is fine in VLC, it's not a codec issue, nor is it a file corruption issue since the same files play fine in totem and mplayer on x86 based hardware. The reason I need a fix is because I'm running an 800Mhz G4 PowerMac using the unofficial PPC build, VLC taxes the CPU too much to play most videos without skipping while they don't skip in the other player
[01:41] <nit-wit> *gparted
[01:41] <Xunie> brb.
[01:42] <jasa> intok, tried to change video output from gstreamer-properties for totem, mplayer should have simplier menu showing on player that does familiar.
[01:42] <nit-wit> carolina, pm me again I lost you
[01:45] <grendal_prime> man i am really having a hard time with this
[01:45] <carolina> Hi! I have problems with the compiz I installed the application but i can't find it in my aplications to use it, I'm very new in linux
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> carolina:  compiz is installed  by default on ubuntu. What did you install exactly?
[01:46] <jasa> carolina, system->prefs->appearance and there is tab for visual effects
[01:46] <carolina> yeah but it say that it is blocked
[01:46] <jasa> carolina, also for better configuration there is thing called "ccsm" or familiar in software reposities.
[01:46] <Jon--> Have: Running process found. Want: Extract title of that process for use with wmctrl. Any idea how?
[01:47] <jasa> carolina, could be that you have an unsupported graphics card or like i do, i remove all those additional extra things. = )
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> Jon--:  use of awk/sed/grep and the ps commands perhaps.
[01:47] <carolina> Dr_Willis, I installed ubuntu 10.10 for netbooks
[01:48] <Jon--> Dr_Willis: I'm not sure how to compile the process and window title information into one system command. wmctrl -l doesn't print the process name, only the window name, an ID, and what desktop it is on
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> carolina:  what are you wanting to do exactly? If you want the normal gnome desktop on that thing you should install the 'ubuntu-desktop' package.
[01:49] <Xunie> Hmm, if I understand partitioning correctly, the partition table points to the beginning and end of a partition. And when I delete a partition, the data is still at the pointer.
[01:49] <carolina> Dr_willis, i want to use the 3d cube in my desktop
[01:49] <Xunie> Can't I remove the extended partition, and then make a new partition pointing to the exact same pointer and end pointer?
[01:50] <carolina> dr_willis but in apperence the specials effects are blocked
[01:50] <Jon--> Have: Running process found. Want: Extract title of that process for use with wmctrl. Any idea how? [running GNOME]
[01:50] <Xunie> nit-wit, your view?
[01:51] <jasa> carolina, sure you don't have any additional things blocked from xorg.conf like composite and such ? Also your using Ubuntu indeed and not Xubuntu or Kubuntu ?
[01:51] <nit-wit> Xunie, I stepped away whats happening
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> carolina:  dare we ask why?  its rather useless eyecandy.  Install that 'ccsm' tool mentioned earlier, and run it, and emable the cube.
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | carolina
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> carolina:  you would be better off spending your timne learning more ubuntu basics then worrying about eyecandy that basically is going to get removed in the next release anyway (or so i hear)
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> Im not even sure if the cube effect works properly with the netbook interface.
[01:52] <carolina> jasa, yes i'm using ubuntu indeed
[01:52] <Nik> how to deposit a script to /opt/etc/init.d/S99pyload - i dont know what to do
[01:52] <Xunie> nit-wit, well, a partition table is just a data structure holding a pointer and size to the partition ,right?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> Nik:  deposit? You mean copy it there?   sudo cp whatever /path/to/whevver
[01:52] <nit-wit> Xunie, it is geek area to remove the extended without wiping everything inside, I don't know how. You could shrink the whole thing and clone the stuff outside of it then remove it though
[01:52] <Jon--> Have: Running process found. Want: Extract title of that process for use with wmctrl. Any idea how? [running GNOME]
[01:53] <joox> carolina i sent you a message with info you need :)
[01:53] <nit-wit> Xunie, I'm not real up on partition tables really
[01:53] <Xunie> nit-wit, can't I just delete the extended partition and also the inside of that the primary partition and recreate the primary partition which was in the extended partition?
[01:53] <Xunie> nit-wit, I can't resize an extended partition, can I?
[01:53] <nit-wit> Xunie, you would remove the stuff inside then the extended yes.
[01:53] <jasa> joox, he/she needs understanding that's all. = )
[01:53] <nit-wit> Xunie, yes you can resize the extended
[01:54] <Xunie> nit-wit, according to gparted I can't! :S
[01:54] <Xunie> Maybe because I'm booted from the HD.
[01:54] <nit-wit> Xunie, do you have the swap off
[01:54] <nit-wit> Xunie, yes you have to be on the live cd
[01:54] <Xunie> nit-wit, yes, swap is off.
[01:54] <Jon--> Have: Running process found. Want: Extract title of that process for use with wmctrl. Any idea how? [running GNOME]
[01:55] <Xunie> nit-wit, well, I'm gonna burn the live cd, thanks for your help.
[01:55] <carolina> Dr_willis, could you  recommend me where can i learn more about ubuntu basics? =)
[01:55] <nit-wit> Xunie, no problem.:)
[01:55] <carolina> joox, thank you very much! i'll try it
[01:57] <Mxzklc> hello everyone, I'd need some help with dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu 10.10 on a pc with aptio bios (supposed to be an efi), i'm fairly new to dualbootin (only ever used linux on my pc since 2007 lol) only thing i know is that since 9.10 it's a pain to do due to grub2 and id like to avoid having to "bootrec /fixboot" everytime i need windows
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> !manual | carolina
[01:58] <carolina> ubottu thx! I'm installing simple-ccsm
[01:59] <jasa> Yeah, i just wonder why in the heck i went to even bother getting Win7 myself and i hate dual booting/swaps between OS.
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> Mxzklc:  you got a windows pc that used EFI? Not seen one of those yet.
[02:00] <Mxzklc> dr_willis : UEFI, pardon, as far as i know aptio is supposed to be Ami's uefi, with no legacy bios support (hence, correct me if im wrong no mbr but gpt)
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> Mxzklc:  i dont have anything that new. so not used those things. Only thing ive seen that EFI on is apple stuff.
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> I thouight one of the main features of grub2 was it supposed to work with efi things.
[02:01] <carolina> Dr_willis and ubottu i'm alredy reading the manual thanks a lot!
[02:01] <Jon--> Have: Running process found. Want: Extract title of that process for use with wmctrl. Any idea how? [running GNOME]. Here's script: http://pastebin.com/6hEpTuz5 [the --name is just playing around, didn't go very far]
[02:01] <bonesdds> Is this the best channel to discuss ubuntu server questions?
[02:01] <Mxzklc> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I had the brilliant idea to buy a new pc without reading if its bios was supported lol, actually grub legacy wouldnt play nice with uefi would it?
[02:02] <Jasonn> bonesdds: at least they didnt go to #windows ;)
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> Mxzklc:  I thought GRUB2 was supposed to play nice with it.
[02:03] <Jon--> The main culprit is set title in my vimrc
[02:04] <Jon--> and I can't find a way to use anything other than window title with wmctrl
[02:04] <Mxzklc> Dr_Willis: it does play nice with it, but it doesn't (apparently) play nice with windows while dualbooting
[02:04] <Mxzklc> Dr_Willis: if you re aware of any way to dualboot them without causing civil wars I'd be grateful if u'd let me know
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> Jon--:  compiz has a lot of features to mess with windows size/positon and so forth. Ive not used wmctrl in ages.
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> Mxzklc:  i have no pcs that new. so no idea. You have checked the forums?
[02:05] <Jon--> Dr_Willis: What I want to do is, 1) find if gnome-terminal is running, 2) if running, move it to my current workspace, set focus 3) if not running, spawn one on current process
[02:05] <Mxzklc> Dr_Willis: what you mean "that new" ? that new to run windows? if you know how to make them play nice on legacy bios is fine too, if you know how to do with grub2 it would make no difference if i use bios efi or whatever
[02:06] <Jon--> I'm using wmctrl to find the window if it's open but that uses title, which is not always Terminal
[02:06] <edbian> Jon--, Dr_Willis Is there anyway to move a window to a different virtual desktop?
[02:06] <jrib> Jon--: you can pass window id instead
[02:06] <edbian> Jon--, use ps -e | grep gnome-terminal
[02:06] <guest> Can anyone get a Apple ii program to work in a browser on http://www.virtualapple.org/
[02:06] <Jon--> edbian: Would that work? :O
[02:07] <edbian> Jon--, It'll find any process called 'gnome-terminal'
[02:07] <edbian> Jon--, (yes it will work)
[02:07] <Jon--> edbian: I can already do that. Are you suggesting I cut something from the output of grep and use that?
[02:07] <Chapati> how secure is the ubuntu full drive encryption?
[02:07] <Chapati> does it rank up with other tools like truecrypt?
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> Mxzklc:  ive not even seen any windows machines that come with the EFI stuff.
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  compiz has some features to do that i recall.
[02:08] <Jon--> Chapati: I personally recommend TrueCrypt. Not to diss Ubuntu, but TrueCrypt has been hammered away at for a long time and found to be done well, and it's compatible with other platforms like Windows. It's my personal recommendation
[02:08] <edbian> Dr_Willis, Thanks
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> well im off to work.. i may be back in 20 min or so.
[02:08] <bonesdds> Jasonn: Thanks, a smarta$$ response. I never expected that.  I mean to say, is this the best place to discuss server based questions or would you recommend a different channel?
[02:08] <Jon--> edbian: Can you show me how?
[02:08] <Mxzklc> Dr_Willis: I'm talking about BIOS now, what i asked was if you were aware of any way to dualboot windows with ubuntu 9.10 or later
[02:08] <jrib> Dr_Willis: interesting job -_-
[02:08] <jarid> What command can I do to check if I have support for hardware virtualization?
[02:08] <Chapati> Jon--, yeah but what do you do for full disk encryption? because truecrypt doesnt encrypt the entire OS
[02:09] <edbian> Jon--, It sounds both our methods work equally well.  ps -e lists all processes.  Do you know what grep does?  Do you need the command explained further?
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> jrib:  yep. I can now IRC from my android phone at work.
[02:09] <Jon--> edbian: Here's my current script that relies on $TITLE not changing : http://pastebin.com/hEc8y7aw
[02:09] <jrib> Dr_Willis: cool :)
[02:09] <Jon--> Chapati: Yes it does..
[02:09] <Mxzklc> hello everyone, I'd need some help with dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu 10.10 on a pc with aptio bios (supposed to be an efi), i'm fairly new to dualbootin (only ever used linux on my pc since 2007 lol) only thing i know is that since 9.10 it's a pain to do due to grub2 and id like to avoid having to "bootrec /fixboot" everytime i need windows
[02:09] <neiz> Chapati: I second Jon--'s recommendation for truecrypt. it's amazing
[02:09] <edbian> Jon--, Well that's the thing, title will change
[02:09] <guest> Can anyone get a Apple ii program to work in a browser on http://www.virtualapple.org/  Or confirm that it doesn't work?
[02:10] <edbian> Jon--, Although you can tell gnome-terminal to not change the title in the preferences
[02:10] <jarid> What command can I do to check if I have support for hardware virtualization?
[02:10] <Jon--> edbian: Exactly. Is there no way to find what the title of that window will be, and use wmctrl? Or some other feature of wmctrl that doesn't rely on the title?
[02:10] <Chapati> yeah i had truecrypt ready to go
[02:10] <Jon--> edbian: I'd prefer not having to do that, but yes, I could.
[02:10] <Chapati> but it wouldnt encrypt the system
[02:10] <Chapati> only create new partitions
[02:10] <Jon--> Chapati: There is an option for full-drive encryption.
[02:11] <jarid> What command can I do to check if I have support for hardware virtualization?
[02:11] <Chapati> hum
[02:11]  * Chapati tries to find it
[02:11] <Jon--> Chapati: Google.
[02:12] <edbian> Jon--, Do you care what the title is other than to find gnome-terminals?  Here's the thing. ps -e will list all the processes.  If you have a gnome-terminal open you will see 'gnome-terminal' in the list.  The only problem is if there is more than one gnome-terminal open you can't tell using just ps -e   Does that matter to you?
[02:12] <skullboy> how do i forge fbset
[02:13] <Jon--> edbian: no. I don't need to find a specific gnome-terminal, I only plan on using one and tabs.
[02:13] <Jon--> edbian: hence why I'd like to be able to use wmctrl and move it around to my current workspace
[02:14] <skullboy> how do i forge fbset
[02:14] <skullboy> how do i forge fbset report
[02:14] <guest>  Can anyone get a Apple ii program to work in a browser on http://www.virtualapple.org/  Or confirm that it doesn't work?
[02:14] <YankDownUnder> skullboy, You were kicked before for flooding this same question. Read the man pages or Google.
[02:15] <Disk1of5> hi all, having a problem with 10.10 server, my grub is not auto loading a OS, it just sits at menu selection, i have checked /etc/default/grub.cfg and the time outs are set.. can any one help me plz?
[02:15] <edbian> Jon--, This seems simpler and achieves the same thing: http://pastebin.com/nFNvyn9m
[02:17] <jarid> Chapati, anything?
[02:18] <Jon--> edbian: The problem is not the if statement, it's the wmctrl command requiring that the title of terminal not change.
[02:18] <edbian> Jon--, aaaahhh, lemme see then...
[02:18] <Jon--> edbian: Have: Running process found. Want: Extract title of that process for use with wmctrl. Any idea how? [running GNOME]
[02:19] <edbian> Jon--, Trying to figure that out...
[02:19] <edbian> Jon--, Surely you can give wmctrl something besides window title. (that's not a good unique identifier)
[02:20] <Jon--> edbian: man page only offered an integer ID of some kind, but I have no idea where that comes from and I can't match it to anything in ps.
[02:20] <Mxzklc> hello everyone, I'd need some help with dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu 10.10 on a pc with aptio bios (supposed to be an efi), i'm fairly new to dualbootin (only ever used linux on my pc since 2007 lol) only thing i know is that since 9.10 it's a pain to do due to grub2 and id like to avoid having to "bootrec /fixboot" everytime i need windows
[02:20] <edbian> Jon--, it's not process ID?
[02:20] <edbian> Jon--, Surely it's process ID
[02:20] <guest>  Can anyone get a Apple ii program to work in a browser on http://www.virtualapple.org/  Or confirm that it doesn't work?
[02:20] <Jon--> edbian: no
[02:21] <Jon--> "The first column always contains the window identity as a hexadecimal integer"
[02:21] <Jon--> from man page ^
[02:21] <visual1ce> hi
[02:22] <jhonnyboy> Hello everyone, what's the best way to design a site to be seen the same across multiple resolutions? Design it for a certain resolution or just place the css code?
[02:22] <Jon--> pgrep returns 17109 and the identity as hex is 0x04c00004 . Not the same.
[02:22] <edbian> Jon--, Look at -p   ?
[02:22] <Jon--> Have: Running process found. Want: Extract title of that process for use with wmctrl. Any idea how? [running GNOME]
[02:23] <Jon--> OH
[02:23] <Jon--> I need to write some sort of cut job now though, they still require you use window title -_-'
[02:24] <Jon--> The column matches now though. wmctrl -lp terminal entry PID field matches PID returned by pgrep gnome-terminal
[02:25] <guest> Maybe I'm not being seen?
[02:25] <visual1ce> im having trouble opening a java applet required for coursework
[02:26] <itaylor57> Visual`: how are you trying to run it?
[02:27] <edbian> Jon--, FixeD?
[02:27] <Mxzklc> hello everyone, I'd need some help with dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu 10.10 on a pc with aptio bios (supposed to be an uefi), i'm fairly new to dualbooting (only ever used linux on my pc since 2007 lol) only thing i know is that since 9.10 it's a pain to do due to grub2 and id like to avoid having to "bootrec /fixboot" everytime i need windows, would grub-legacy work on aptio bios?
[02:27] <carolina> hi i'm trying to use the specials effects but it says that the mutter is running and i can't use them
[02:27] <carolina> what is the mutter
[02:27] <Jon--> Okay now my problem is a bit simpler, maybe someone can help me. I need a script to do something. I have wmctrl -lp output which has it's third field the PID of the processes. I need to find the PID in that list that matches the PID for gnome-terminal running. I then need to get the name field out of that row, which is a part of the fourth field of wmctrl -lp. It's a tricky sed/cut/grep sort...
[02:27] <Jon--> ...of job now. =(
[02:28] <Jon--> Sadly wmctrl doesn't let you find a process given a PID, only print a list which contains PID as well as the title in it -_-'. Need the associated title.
[02:28] <Starminn> carolina: It's a window manager. IT effectively replaces Metacity for the GNOME Shell
[02:29] <Starminn> carolina: So it sounds like it's telling you it can't do them because it needs Metactiy running, and not Mutter, so something you could try is running "metacity --replace" in a terminal and trying again. (That's just a wild guess though.)
[02:29] <Auriga> Mxzklc, What about it is supposed to be more difficult?
[02:29] <gabo1323> where can I found gift-daemon and how can I instal it, I just instal giftoxic but it doesn work
[02:30] <Jon--> oh god, this will take forever. Someone please take pity on my soul and help me write this with BASH
[02:30] <Mxzklc> Auriga: what you mean?
[02:30] <carolina> Starminn, how can i do that? i'm new in these stuffs
[02:31] <Auriga> Mxzklc, You said that it is supposed to be a pain in the ass to dual boot now.
[02:31] <Auriga> Mxzklc, I dual boot with no hassle, unless I am missing something specific to do with the bios you mentioned...
[02:31] <Mxzklc> Auriga: i didnt say ass tho =P, but yes, my last attempts failed, windows wouldnt boot, would go to windows logo and restart my pc
[02:31] <guest>  Can anyone get a Apple ii program to work in a browser on http://www.virtualapple.org/  Or confirm that it doesn't work?
[02:32] <rojikku> HEEEEELP Dx I added a source in my Ubuntu software center, and then updated...it was a something like ppa:compiz/paa or something like that, I was looking for the unsupported compiz plugin..And I rebooted after it did some partial system update, and now compiz crashes after a moment when I login!! And alt + f2 isnt' working >>....
[02:33] <rojikku> I was trying to get snow...and this is the help thing right? x.x
[02:33] <Auriga> Mxzklc, What did you install fist?
[02:33] <Mxzklc> Auriga: windows then ubuntu, ubuntu boots flawlessly, but if i use it (update and do what i have to) and then restart and switch to windows it wont boot unless i run windows dvd and "chkdsk && bootrec /fixboo"
[02:33] <A|i3N> I got an easy question. After finally getting handbrake to run on 10.04, I've got 6 freshly re-encoded MP4 files I want to join into one continuous file. Is there something that'll do this quickly without having to re-encode the whole dang project, and do it with no quality loss? I've got PiTiVi running on it and it's gonna take about 2 1/2 hours. Didn't even take me that long to encode the files from other formats in the first place.
[02:33] <josh_> rojikku: You are in the right place! someone will pick ya up shortly :) Or I can try ^_^;
[02:34] <rojikku> josh_, what do you think is the issue? xP
[02:34] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Wow... Okay... This might be a bit beyond me, as I have not had that kind of issues at all...
[02:34] <Mxzklc> Auriga: bios doesn't matter, it would have if i had to use grub legacy, did you use grub2?
[02:35] <Starminn> Jon--: Try in #bash?
[02:35] <Auriga> Mxzklc, I'm guess I did as that is the fefault no?
[02:35] <Auriga> default*
[02:36] <Mxzklc> Auriga: would i be too invasive if i asked you what bios and pc brand you re using?
[02:36] <josh_> rojikku: something caused compiz to call it kaputz, of course. The why is a toughie. When you try and run compiz from a terminal what happens?
[02:36] <Auriga> Mxzklc, I think your knowledge surpasses mine too lol. Not sure where to start with hellping you.
[02:36] <Sub_Zero> I just installed the addon that allows USB 2.0 support for Vbox but when I go to the USB menu via Devices > USB devices it won't let me check any of them
[02:36] <Surjya> hi geeks, I just downloaded ubuntu 10.10. I prepared a USB for this also. Now boot with my USB and I dint install on my system. I am running directly from USB. But I am not able to get Wi-fi networks
[02:36] <Mxzklc> Auriga: if you did it with no pains it may be my crappy pc (i havent even touched the aptio one yet)
[02:36] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Rude & intrusive I think would be better words to fit... & no it wouldn't lol.
[02:36] <Surjya> Can anybody suggest what may be wrong?
[02:36] <Auriga> Mxzklc, It's an EVGA 680i.
[02:36] <josh_> rojikku: also, do you still have the gnome-panels available?
[02:36] <Starminn> !wifi
[02:37] <guest>  Can anyone get a Apple ii program to work in a browser on http://www.virtualapple.org/  Or confirm that it doesn't work?
[02:37] <rojikku> josh_, I did that, compiz --replace, it works fine...Just I don't like the whole terminal thing. xP And yeah I have the gnome-panels
[02:37] <Auriga> Mxzklc, How old is your machine?
[02:37] <Mxzklc> Auriga: what the hell? i never heard of those lol, and its a '10 dell laptop
[02:38] <josh_> ok! rojikku, you know gconf right? Is compiz still in the key for required session apps?
[02:38] <juniorh> hello hello
[02:38] <rojikku> josh_, uhm...gconf? I am not sure...
[02:38] <Auriga> Mxzklc, EVGA 680i is a 2007 board I think... It's good. Does everything I need.
[02:38] <Auriga> Mxzklc, As to your 10" Dell... What is the HD size?
[02:38] <josh_> rojikku: gnome configuration manager is your friend here :) one sec
[02:39] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Could you be having partition issues?
[02:39] <Mxzklc> Auriga: yes no doubt it does everything i was just pointing out my ignorance lol
[02:39] <Auriga> Mxzklc, No I know, I was just explaining lol.
[02:39] <rojikku> josh_ Uhm, ok...
[02:39] <Mxzklc> Auriga: I'm not sure, as i said i havent touched it yet, but on a compaq presario cq60 it wouldn't dualboot and it uses phoenix bios which (its not relevant ) is compatible with grub-legacy, while im not sure aptio is
[02:40] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Windows isn't happy if there isn't enough extra space around the install.
[02:40] <josh_> rojikku: if you have something like gnome-do, type in gconf and you'll find it, otherwise do gconf-editor from the terminal to bring it up
[02:40] <Mxzklc> Auriga: it has like 100GB (vista) or 97GB (7)
[02:40] <skullboy> how do i forge fbset report
[02:40] <Mxzklc> Auriga: xp doesnt boot either, same problem, win logo a lil smile then forced reboot (from os)
[02:40] <josh_> rojikku: (well, you probably have easier access than terminal but im not sure where in the menu it is =s)
[02:40] <Auriga> Mxzklc, If you have an XP disc around try that, to test it with [As it is a quicker install time] Then
[02:41] <Auriga> Ahhh okay...
[02:41] <rojikku> josh_: it came right up. xP Now what? and gnome-do is alt f2? that doesn't work...>> I used terminal
[02:41] <Auriga> Hmmmm *Thinking*
[02:41] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Have you tried installing the other way around, Linux then Windows...?
[02:41] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Seems like an unlikely long shot I know, but it might work...
[02:41] <josh_> rojikku: ok, so the session key is under desktop/gnome/session , open up to there
[02:42] <alex_> \join #ubuntu-us-ca
[02:42] <Mxzklc> Auriga: only time i dual booted (not even on my pc) was with win xp and ubuntu 8.10 but on my computers i only used linux since i quit xp lol. And yes i tried doing it,  i had to reinstall grub2 both on mbr and on boot partition
[02:42] <josh_> rojikku: and then to required_components, forgot that
[02:42] <rojikku> josh_, Alright
[02:42] <Auriga> Mxzklc, That sounds long...
[02:42] <wn1zid> My eeepc on 10.10: thanks Ubuntu, Great job : http://imagebin.org/142859
[02:42] <rojikku> josh_, the hell is mentacity here for? o.o Do I even have that installed?...
[02:42] <josh_> rojikku: you'll have panel, WM and FM right there. Is compiz in the WM?
[02:43] <Auriga> Sorry what is the model you are playing with? So I can google it.
[02:43] <josh_> rojikku: AHA!
[02:43] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Sorry what is the model you are playing with? So I can google it.
[02:43] <rojikku> josh_, just replace the value with compiz? and WTF I never had this issue before >>..
[02:43] <Mxzklc> Auriga: i actually found out that i could use grub legacy to stop all this linux hate from windows but im not sure it would work on ami aptio, model of what? i actually have 2 laptops lol (if you refer to it)
[02:43] <Auriga> Mxzklc, The machine you are trying to dual on right now.
[02:44] <josh_> rojikku: that should do it :) so, change it and restart the session! if you are running chat in X see you in a few :)
[02:44] <rojikku> josh_:  Yeah rofl I should have done chat on lappy...brb
[02:44] <Mxzklc> Auriga : one i want dualboot in (not tried tho, living of past experiences) dell vostro 3700 , failed boot on compaq presario cq60 415SL  (there may be a - between them lol google should fix it tho)
[02:44] <lighta> hi guys, having trouble with audio, how can I enable internalsound with alsa ?
[02:45] <Mxzklc> Auriga: i dont think i need to give you my dell customization (as details) since its supposed to be 1 bios for all but if so just ask
[02:45] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Okay give me a second...
[02:45] <Mxzklc> Auriga: sure thanks btw
[02:45] <Auriga> Mxzklc, I haven't helped you as yet lol...
[02:45] <jhonnyboy> anyone good with php/mysql...I'm getting an error on line 16 http://pastebin.com/ybrZUnFH
[02:45] <Mxzklc> Auriga: you just lost around 10 minutes of your life, its enough to say thanks
[02:46] <Mxzklc> *already
[02:46] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Lol.
[02:46] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Oh gosh we're talking about i7's... Nice...
[02:48] <Auriga> Mxzklc, You said that you haven't tried to dual boot on the Vostro?
[02:48] <josh_> rojikku: and the verdict is?
[02:48] <Chapati> Jon--: cant find anything
[02:48] <Jon--> Anyone who was still following my problem
[02:48] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: last thing i got from you was the i7 comment then it disconnected me -.-  sorry
[02:48] <Jon--> The final solution is pid=$(pgrep gnome-terminal); wmctrl -ia "$(wmctrl -lp | awk -v pid="$pid" 'pid==$3 {print $1; exit}')" 2>/dev/null || gnome-terminal
[02:49] <Jon--> #awk saved me :P
[02:49] <rojikku> josh_: Predictably it crashed agian..btw when I login my panels have static instead of their pictures for a few min, never did that before
[02:49] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: and in fact there are 2 of me lmao
[02:49] <edbian> Jon--, holy crap.  Good job!
[02:49] <carolina> Starminn, So if I uninstall mutter and I have install Metacy, cause I have both  already installed
[02:50] <josh_> rojikku: baaaaaah. =s
[02:50] <carolina> Starminn: it is ok if I do that
[02:50] <Starminn> carolina: What system are you using? What's your desktop environment?
[02:50] <rojikku> josh_: Yeah, it started after I added that source and ran the update thing...so I really don't know, I guess I have to undo the update? 0.o
[02:51] <Starminn> carolina: Did you try the command I gave you earlier?
[02:51] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: gone afk or something? i may have missed some message
[02:51] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Sorry
[02:51] <rojikku> josh_: Oh!!! You know what! A bunch of shit got uninstalled after the update, made it removed something vital 0.o
[02:51] <josh_> rojikku: perhaps =s de-updating could be precarious though. I've never tried to before (or it's been awhile).
[02:51] <LittleRed> I have a media bar on my laptop -- running 10.10 on 64 bit... anyone have any ideas where I might find drivers?
[02:51] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Had to relieve the bladder.
[02:51] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: no problem, as i said last thing i had from you was the comment about i7 which was answered with "its an i5" then i got disconnected lol
[02:52] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, There are two of you?
[02:52] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Yeah I read back lol.
[02:52] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, That was the last thing..
[02:52] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: there were, i actually added a c t my name to come back lol
[02:52] <josh_> rojikku: switching back to the current release would probably reinstall most of that, mhmm.
[02:52] <rojikku> josh_: How would I do that? 0.o
[02:52] <Auriga> Mxzklcc,  okay.
[02:52] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Try the dual on the Vostro, I can't see why it wouldn't on that.
[02:53] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, I am one to stay away from dell if I can, but It's looking like a beast.
[02:53] <rojikku> josh_: I am going to try again real quick......
[02:53] <A|i3N> ANybody know of some good MP4 merging software?
[02:53] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: why stay away from dell? O_O
[02:53] <josh_> I was still typing my reply, grumble grumble
[02:53] <CrimsonIdol> cp
[02:53]  * josh_ shakes fist at rojikku
[02:53] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Expensive for one, plus the desktops I have seen use specialized dell parts meaning you can't just swap in or swap out the parts.
[02:54] <rojikku> josh_: Didn't work D:
[02:54] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: well its a 17 inches, if it happens to fool me it would still be good for slapping people
[02:54] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: and as far as i know the proprietary dell crap got removed in 2007 or so
[02:54] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Yeah that could hurt lol.
[02:54] <rojikku> josh_: Shit, comiz did that thing again..I think I caught it in terminal though..
[02:55] <Starminn> A|i3N: http://www.ehow.com/how_7453393_merge-mp4s-linux.html --- maybe?
[02:55] <lighta> hi guys, having trouble with audio, how can I enable internalsound with alsa ?
[02:55] <josh_> rojikku:like it flipped out or didnt start?
[02:55] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: by the way reason why i wanted to ask before trying is that on a normal pc (compaqs are crap...but normal one) it wouldnt work
[02:55] <IdleOne> !language
[02:55] <rojikku> josh_: It started, and then I looked and I had no bars or anything suddenly >>
[02:55] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Just because something work in one place doesn't mean it is the same elsewhere.
[02:55] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, This is especially true with computers.
[02:55] <rojikku> josh_: "gtk-window-decorator" received an X window system error"
[02:56] <Bruce_Wayne> Is there anyway I can make not to ask `Default keyring` for gwibber when I boot into ubuntu?
[02:56] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Theory doesn't always translate to practice.
[02:56] <josh_> rojikku: interesting. Window decorator stuff I haven't really dealt much with, other than through fusion-icon (which could be very helpful to you).
[02:57] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: i guess its time to try, just gotta fetch some info about aptio and mbr/gpt
[02:57] <rojikku> josh_: http://pastebin.com/4GUuYMqa
[02:57] <visual1ce> hi
[02:57] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: if i have to use a vm tho ima freak out lol (also because i need wnidows to update my phones)
[02:58] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, I saw an app in Ubuntu somewhere for that kind of thing...
[02:58] <visual1ce> for some reason i can't get a few java applets working... how can i go about troubleshooting this?
[02:58] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: doesn't work with bbos 6 (as far as i seen googleing)
[02:59] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: for my android phone ota would be ok (slow but ok) but blackberries need windows -_-
[02:59] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Not something I know about, sorry.
[02:59] <Valkyrie> Hi! I'm setting up a stream of my Desktop, and i'm choosing the option to play another file simultaniously (my headset, hopefully) But, it asks my audio device name
[02:59] <A|i3N> that looks promising Starminn - thanks hehe
[02:59] <Valkyrie> What does it mean? When I go aplay --list-devices it shows my two devices (speakers and headset)
[02:59] <Valkyrie> But, audio device name are both 0
[02:59] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, This app may do it, I will go look quick.
[02:59] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: blackberry statement "use windows or jump out of your balcony"
[02:59] <Starminn> :)
[02:59] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: if you think it may its ok, thanks
[02:59] <Valkyrie> (Through VLC)
[02:59] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: probably didnt google enough lol
[03:00] <josh_> rojikku: that definetely references a theme that is missing stuff =s  I'm gonna try and cut through docs and see how to switch themes.
[03:00] <josh_> rojikku: that 'should' help
[03:00] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: although rim distributes both manager and firmwares in exe format, which wouldnt work on wine lol
[03:00] <rojikku> josh_: Uhm...appearance themes? >>;
[03:01] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Is it a 9000 or a Storm?
[03:01] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: curve 9300
[03:01] <josh_> rojikku: perhaps. Change the themes maybe?
[03:01] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Yeah firmware may be a difficult one but syncs would probably work.
[03:01] <Belial`> has anyone here been able to get a laptop equipped with optimus to work with the nvidia proprietary driver? when i enable the driver, after reboot i can't get into x. it keeps me in console and the logs say no device found and no screen.
[03:01] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, It's called Wammu, take a look.
[03:02] <josh_> rojikku: (heh, that's kinda 'DERP' advice)
[03:02] <rojikku> josh_: Changed it, not sure how to know if it is working 0.o
[03:02] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: i know wammu , all i need desktop manager for is firmware lol
[03:02] <Auriga> Belial`, Have you reconfigured X?
[03:02] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: noobs from both motorola and rim wouldnt release a desktop manager for linux
[03:02] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Wine wouldn't run the MS Blackberry programs?
[03:02] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Less money in it.
[03:03] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: lol
[03:03] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: well on an unlocked android phone i could use adb
[03:03] <Belial`> Auriga, i've tried a few things. i tried running nvidia-xconfig after enabling the driver. i checked to see if my xorg.conf was similar to others with nvidia cards...
[03:03] <peanutcandy> In short, eye-liner consisted of applying darkened natural preservatives to their facial features. And the process was remarkably seductive. Indeed, Scene Girls several thousand years old have been found intact and  attractive. Their hair, teeth, fingernails and toenails, and facial features are still evident. Their diseases in life, such as self-loathing, social withdrawal, and mental deficiencies, are still diagnosable.  Even their fat
[03:03] <peanutcandy> al afflictions are still apparent: a teen-aged queen died from from bumping heads with a ginger; a mature queen died from being my research partner.
[03:03] <Auriga> Belial`, Reconfiguring X is all I have to suggest. You need someone with more in their head than I have.
[03:03] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: still if its not invasive may i ask you if you bought your windows dvd phisically or downloaded from store?
[03:04] <rojikku> josh_: Should I relog? 0.o
[03:04] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Neither, I forced my father to pay for something for once.
[03:04] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, But I have an actual disc though at any rate.
[03:04] <rojikku> josh_: Wait shit it crashed again in terminal......
[03:04] <peanutcandy> why does this server default
[03:04] <josh_> rojikku: perhaps, worth a shot! I have a possible fallback, maybe. Can you still see your systray?
[03:04] <peanutcandy> grr
[03:05] <guest> * Senix|away is now known as Senix
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[03:05] <FloodBot2> guest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:05] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: a genuine disc (from microsoft) or a burnt from you one (store lets you download so you can burn, its still legal but disc isnt signed)
[03:05] <guest> sorry about that
[03:05] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, No a genuine disc.
[03:06] <rojikku> josh_ :http://pastebin.com/yLj7fHx0
[03:06] <josh_> rojikku: Also, while I (and plenty others) dont mind language, we are trying to keep langauge more 'G' than 'PG' =s wouldn't want you to upset the wrong person iykwim
[03:06] <Belial`> Auriga, i'll give that a shot and see what happens. thanks.
[03:06] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: ouch, ok cant ask infos then lol
[03:06] <guest>  Can anyone get a Apple ii program to work in a browser on http://www.virtualapple.org/  Or confirm that it doesn't work?
[03:06] <Senix> guest: you called?
[03:06] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, You got a warning?
[03:06] <Senix> guest: This is a support channel for Ubuntu Linux not apple
[03:06] <rojikku> josh_: xD Sorry, the whole lack of any control or pretty visual stuff whatsoever is irritating.
[03:06] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: what kind?
[03:07] <guest> Senix: correct.  Under Ubuntu can you get that link to work.
[03:07] <edbian> guest, I get an error that firefox 4 on linux is not yet supported.
[03:07] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, You said you can't ask infos.... What prompted you to say that?
[03:07] <Senix> guest: Thats up the people at virtualapple.org and what browser you use, not ubuntu
[03:07] <josh_> rojikku: I get ya. So, that log had a lot of issues; the segmentation fault was most important. It's possible that when you upgraded compiz, not all of the dependencies were updated and there is a mix of libraries. That's my first thought, at least.
[03:07] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: if you have a genuine (bought from phisical store) dvd you probably dont know (shouldnt be interested in it since you have a real one) how digital river distributes it
[03:07] <AnubArack> how can I call a program from terminal and NOT have it close if I close terminal ?
[03:08] <Senix> guest: They should have a FAQ page you can read, good luck
[03:08] <guest> Senix: ok
[03:08] <rojikku> josh_: Maybe...Not sure what I was updating, i didn't look...
[03:08] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, I didn't even know they were doing that, in part because of moving away from MS as much as possible...
[03:08] <Jeruvy> AnubArack: you can add & to the end by itself
[03:08] <AnubArack> just & ?
[03:09] <Firefishe> Is there a way to test Unity in 10.04, while still retaining the ability to fall back to the stock gnome install?  Or to have them exist side-by-side?
[03:09] <Senix> Jeruvy: I thought that was how to run another program, but checking first to see if the first program run executed right
[03:09] <rojikku> josh_: x.x I could just reinstall...everything..I guess...
[03:09] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: i been away 4 years, now my phone gets me back grrrr lol, well phone and ms developing so instead of using dell's dvd (which is tampered) i downloaded one from digital river (ESD mirosoft distributor) but im not sure its clean (in my devious mind i associate MS and their partners to virus lol)
[03:09] <Senix> FireCrotch: their just themes, you can install them easily enough
[03:09] <josh_> rojikku: well, 2 things jump to mind that might help. First is trying fusion-icon, and possibly switching decorators (I used emerald when I used gnome).
[03:10] <edbian> AnubArack, just the & will not keep it open.  I'm looking it up.
[03:10] <FireCrotch> Okay, that's 2 now.
[03:10] <nit-wit> Firefishe, virtual
[03:10] <josh_> rojikku: the second one is removing the source, removing compiz and reinstalling compiz.
[03:10] <rojikku> josh_: I uninstalled emerald because I thought it conflicted, I wanted to have the workstation effects in compiz though...
[03:10] <rojikku> josh_: I tried that, will do it agian though .-.
[03:10] <dr_Willis> emerald is basically a dead project.
[03:10] <FireCrotch> (times that I've been highlighted when someone meant Firefishe, that is)
[03:10] <Firefishe> nit-wit: I'm not set up for virtual anything at the moment ;)
[03:11] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Probably the smarter move, as you say, Dell add their own 30 day trials crap.
[03:11] <josh_> rojikku: emerald worked ok for me (but per dr_Willis, 'tis dead).
[03:11] <Senix> dr_Willis: how is emerald a dead project?
[03:11] <Firefishe> FireCrotch: We do seem to have that issue here, don't we ;) hee
[03:11] <AnubArack> edbian, Jeruvy yes just & will not keep it open but i just used Run Application instead and it's all good
[03:11] <edbian> AnubArack, nohup firefox   (an example)
[03:11] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: yes but i have trust issues, even towards sha1 iso check lol
[03:11] <edbian> AnubArack, Or do what you said.
[03:11] <nit-wit> Firefishe, you can install multiple desktops but the programs will overlap.
[03:11] <nickmoeck> I think that ought to solve the problem :)
[03:11] <dr_Willis> its dieing a slow  death.. but with each passng day..  its getting colder.
[03:11] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Though if you have now bought it, you could torrent one, & as you have paid for it you are not law breaking.
[03:11] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: also, dell didnt add much crap, thats why i wonder whats the reason of tampering install.wim
[03:11] <Senix> dr_Willis: well lets hope it stays alive and beats that cancer, because i use it a lot
[03:12] <nit-wit> Firefishe, the overlap is like you might have two sceensavers both will work
[03:12] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Why trust issues? Though that's a good point about Dell.
[03:12] <guest> Senix: you realize that regular users of Linux do not care if a site works with Linux or not.  That site works under XP and that would be all that matters to a regular user.  An answer like 'go to the website' does nothing to help a regular user.   Maybe a point to another resource would have been useful?
[03:12] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: i downloaded from digitalriver content, freely, you are right as far as i know about legal download since i have serial lol
[03:12] <josh_> rojikku: case + point, fusion-icon mehbeh. prolly try that first.
[03:12] <Firefishe> nit-wit:  Wasn't there a way to test Unity by creating a special user?
[03:12] <rojikku> josh_: Shiz, it had some screwy glitch and I couldn't do anything for a min, no WM is really bad...and ok 0.o
[03:12] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: trust issues vs dell = tampered wim's    trust issues vs sha1 = it got cracked in the past
[03:12] <dr_Willis> i doubt it senix. I think compiz is eventyally going to get  less popular and phased out. its getting merged more and more into the desktops anyway so i guess 'assemalated' is a better term.
[03:13] <rojikku> josh_: And great I can't click anything T.T
[03:13] <AnubArack> edbian, Jeruvy i think it's & disown
[03:13] <dr_Willis> the next release is going to be such a shock to people. :)
[03:13] <edbian> AnubArack, nohup works too.  Never heard of disown.
[03:13] <rojikku> josh_: ....How do I select the terminal?!?!?!?
[03:13] <mkquist> edbian... nohup (command) &
[03:13] <josh_> rojikku: sounds like compiz went blaaargh
[03:13] <nit-wit> Firefishe, no matter what you have to install it, so new user doesn't matter unless you want to lose the superuser staus and have it default to unity
[03:13] <dr_Willis> edbian i tend to use 'command &' then the 'exit' command in terminal.
[03:13] <edbian> AnubArack, disown apparently also works
[03:13] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Trust issues vs dell, vs Microsoft too lol... You will loose those battles.
[03:13] <rojikku> josh_: x.x WHHHHHYYYYYY
[03:14] <Senix> guest: you do realize that this is just irc, the information i give is of my own desire to help you.
[03:14] <josh_> rojikku: hmm. ctrl+alt+F1 ;) really though, hmm =s
[03:14] <edbian> dr_Willis, If you do that 'command' will end when you exit the terminal
[03:14] <dr_Willis> get out of the habbit of using the Close button on a terminal windows. :) use exit command.
[03:14] <josh_> rojikku:wait!
[03:14] <Firefishe> nit-wit:  So you recommend a virtual environment to test it, eh?
[03:14] <nit-wit> Firefishe, you can make the 2nd user a superuser though
[03:14] <dr_Willis> edbian it has not done  that in the many years ive been doing it.
[03:14] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: what you mean?
[03:14] <Senix> guest: so i just don't care if the information i gave you worked or not, if it didn't work i'd try to use google. have a good day.
[03:14] <edbian> dr_Willis, Oh no!  You're right.
[03:14] <dr_Willis> edbian now the CLOSE button......  dont use that
[03:14] <dr_Willis> :)
[03:14] <edbian> AnubArack, Did you get enough answers?
[03:14] <josh_> rojikku: if you decide to take me serious on the ctrl+alt+f1 know you need use ctrl+alt+f7 or f8 to get out
[03:14] <edbian> dr_Willis, yes
[03:15] <dr_Willis> ages ago i set up the wm to not evne show a close buitton on my termoinal windows.
[03:15] <nit-wit> Firefishe, I thought you wanted a whole install,  missread no  would just install the desktop and choose it at the login screen drop-up;)
[03:15] <rojikku> josh_:  Yeah I know.......
[03:15] <AnubArack> edbian, i did. thank you
[03:15] <dr_Willis> so the moral for today... terminal window = use 'exit' :)
[03:15] <josh_> rojikku: whew!
[03:15] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, I mean whether or not you trust them is immaterial to them. Once they have your money... They will continue.
[03:15] <rojikku> josh_: Rofl. Just how in hell do I get it to load compiz from there? No GUI so it won't load.
[03:15] <Firefishe> nit-wit:  how do I install Unity, when I also have the usual gnome (2.30.2 in my case)
[03:15] <rojikku> josh_: RAWRG It seems so much easier to reinstall......
[03:16] <josh_> rojikku: fair enough =s it's pretty messy as-is.
[03:16] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: yes that's right, what i meant is that the reinstall dvd's checksums dont match the technet ones, and that although digital river's copy does match them I'm still doubtful
[03:16] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, I'm sure you will be okay.
[03:16] <AnubArack> oh man, Orta theme is so sexy. should be default or AT LEAST included in the box
[03:16] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, If there is nothing on the machine it can't damage anything anyways.
[03:17] <nit-wit> Firefishe, go to synaptic and look for unity-desktop. I have only had it as a netbook install of the Natty pre release so I assume it is installable.  might just be in the terminal sudo apt-get install unity-desktop
[03:17] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: you mean no OS? lol
[03:17] <rojikku> josh_: Yeah.....reinstallness...x.x See ya, thanks for trying. x3 Though I will probably end up going for snow agian and ending up back here rofl
[03:17] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, So install & see if it works. Then decide if you to keep it.
[03:17] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, I assume you are installing on a blank HD.
[03:17] <josh_> rojikku: mkay ^_^; take care and feel free to come back sometime! We can help and be helped.
[03:17] <nit-wit> Firefishe, 8netbook and natty
[03:17] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: my hd is full, oem version of 7, i have a reinstall dvd and a retail iso (got from that site, which is supposed to be legal and official lol)
[03:17] <dr_Willis> i have seen MD5 sums for ISO files differ then the md5sum for a 'bought' cd - for the same disk..
[03:18] <Firefishe> nit-wit:  It's not available.
[03:18] <Firefishe> nit-wit: I'm using 10.04
[03:18] <dr_Willis> I think theres extraa padding or somthing on the end of the premade cd.
[03:18] <Mxzklcc> dr_wills: yeah, but putting crap into boot.wim and install.wim is criminal lol
[03:18] <nit-wit> Firefishe, do you have any extra usb thumbs
[03:18] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, I personally would back up to an external drive, if possible. Then delete & recreate the partitions during a fresh install.
[03:18] <dr_Willis> no idea about boot.XXXX :) im judst saying ive seen identical thingshave differnt sums.,
[03:19] <Mxzklcc> dr_willis : i guess an iso checked against technet's checksum would be more reliable......unless they hacked it loool
[03:19] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: thanks for the hint, nothing worth saving tho, unless you think i should care the mighty powerdvd or the superawesome trend micro antivirus (which dell put in my pc) lol
[03:20] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, I have never heard of the latter one lol.
[03:20] <Terabyte> just asking "if" not "how", is it possible to setup an ubuntu server than only accepts connections from a specific machine on a local network? (e.g. only accept connections from "This user" at "192.168.1.5"
[03:20] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Different people will tell you different things, but personally I fresh install every time.
[03:20] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: go check your trash bin there may be something similar LOL
[03:20] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: me too, more reliable
[03:20] <Ar71K> hello
[03:21] <edbian> Terabyte, yep, filter the packets in IPtables
[03:21] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Just to clarify, you will need three partitions.
[03:21] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: holy! win7 needs 3?
[03:21] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, No no no...
[03:21] <Ar71K> I was wondering if someone could help me out with a make i'm trying to do
[03:21] <Firefishe> nit-wit: What size thumb drive to you think I might need?
[03:21] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, I mean Win7 1... Linux 2... Data 3.
[03:22] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Though techinally Linux will take more than one partition in itself one for swap & root.
[03:22] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: my hd is win7 syscrap , win7sysitself , Linux, swap
[03:22] <Terabyte> edbian cool, moreover is it possible to prevent the server from being able to handle connections from the internet at all, so that the ubuntu server isn't even 'smart enough' to establish an internet connection, and is only capable of handling local connections? does it make sense to talk about such a system or is it the case that "if you can handle local connections, then you must be able to handle internet connections"
[03:22] <dr_Willis> you can setuop win7 to not need its boot partiton thing..
[03:22] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, That Win7 Sys stuff is a back up image I think... It should be like 15gb or something...
[03:22] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Personally I see that as wasted space.
[03:23] <Mxzklcc> dr_willis: i wish i could live without win lol
[03:23] <carolina> Starminn, So if I uninstall mutter and I have install Metacy, cause I have both  already installed
[03:23] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: it does automatically at clean install, you mean i can remove it safely?
[03:23] <en1gma> can halo run on ubuntu with an nvidia card
[03:23] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Yes you have to Merge it.
[03:23] <dr_Willis> !appdb
[03:23] <edbian> Terabyte, You would have to configure that in the router.  It should be possible.  Depends on what your router is capable of doing.  I don't think you can tell the machine itself because that machine cannot tell if (e.g. 192.168.1.1 is from the Internet or the LAN)
[03:23] <Mxzklcc> im turning this into a win channel, i bet someone is wishing my death
[03:23] <Ar71K> I was wondering if someone could help me install dolphin-emu, I'm following this guide: http://code.google.com/p/dolphin-emu/wiki/Linux_Build
[03:23] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, You have to hit manual install not auto.
[03:24] <josh_> en1gma: dr_Willis beat me to it; WINE is your weapon of choice there.
[03:24] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: thanks! didnt know about it (as i said since 2007 i havent even seen a windows cd)
[03:24] <Ar71K> and I can't get it to make properly
[03:24] <Starminn> carolina: Since you clearly won't follow my advice, ask somebody else.
[03:24] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, When it shows you the partition manager. In that create the partition.
[03:24] <Diopside> join #ableconf
[03:24] <Terabyte> ok edbian thanks for clarifying
[03:24] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: i know, manual // create 1 partition // it creates 2  lol
[03:24] <en1gma> yea i know about wine and even cedega but i just want to know if halo can work and i got it from there
[03:24] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Then it will show you a 200mb partition. Delete the other partition, then merge the 200mb one into the other larger partition you intend to install on.
[03:25] <dr_Willis> en1gma check the wine app database.
[03:25] <josh_> en1gma: if its in winedb than sure. :|
[03:25] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, It will give you some warning about something, just continue as it will never cause you any issues anyways.
[03:25] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: i wonder why it has to be so hard lol i even have to care how many partitions the crappy windows creates -.-
[03:25] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: thanks
[03:26] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: gotta wish my carrier will approve some firmware updates or this will be wasted time lol
[03:26] <josh_> en1gma: halo CE right?
[03:26] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, It's because it Bill Gates & Steve lets make their lives harder for no reason Balmer is why.
[03:26] <en1gma> yea
[03:26] <dr_Willis> ms took the idea of a boot partion from linux? :)
[03:26] <dr_Willis> and it makes it harder to install linux side by side.
[03:26] <Auriga> Everybody took every idea from Linux!
[03:26] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: yes but on linux you can live without that partition lol
[03:26] <Starminn> !appdb | en1gma
[03:26] <josh_> en1gma: looks like a hell yes. Good thing too, I have that upstairs but I had no idea people still played it ;)
[03:26] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, You can though personally I don't live without it.
[03:27] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: without /boot?
[03:27] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Unless I am installing one of the mini Distros
[03:27] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, No I mean swap.
[03:27] <en1gma> josh_  how do you know it will work
[03:27] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: oh thats needed lol i was talking about /boot and the windows /boot wannabe
[03:27] <en1gma> im looking in winedb and it dont list it
[03:27] <josh_> en1gma: the winedb lists it as platinum, wait for link
[03:27] <josh_> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1986
[03:28] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Swap isn't needed in all of the mini distros is what I mean.
[03:28] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, So there I sometimes use it, other times don't.
[03:28] <Starminn> en1gma: Use the search function on the site. http://www.winehq.org/search?cx=partner-pub-0971840239976722%3Aw9sqbcsxtyf&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=Halo+CE&siteurl=appdb.winehq.org%2F#922
[03:28] <en1gma> josh_  thanks
[03:28] <Auriga> en1gma, Could hit up google.
[03:28] <josh_> en1gma: whoap. hold that thought, maybe it's not so hot on current systems.
[03:28] <en1gma> Starminn  thanks also
[03:28] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: well i always put it lol
[03:28] <en1gma> i checking too
[03:29] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Do you ever use any of the mini distros?
[03:29] <myk_robinson> need some help with PureFTP. I installed it and Pureadmin, followed a tutorial at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureFTP  and it keeps rejecting my username/password combo. Any ideas?
[03:29] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: yeah i happen to, especially when i have to fix old computers
[03:29] <josh_> en1gma: my opinion is why not try it? what's the worse to come of it, useless software? You can always remove it ;)
[03:29] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Which is your mini of choice?
[03:29] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: or computers with nvidia cards that dont want to run with nouveau
[03:30] <en1gma> true
[03:30] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: dsl lol
[03:30] <policyq> anyone have a link to a Unity2D LiveCD ?
[03:31] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, NICE!
[03:31] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Such a shame what happened to it though.
[03:32] <eder> boa noite
[03:33] <en1gma> josh_ i looking for a good current install guide...do you know of one that will work with ubuntu 10.10 and an nvidia 9800gt
[03:33] <Mxzklc> Auriga : zomg disconnected again lol
[03:33] <eder> alguem sabe o comando para instalar o skype ??
[03:33] <Mxzklc> Auriga: last message i got was "such a shame what happened to it"
[03:33] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Yeah that was the last.
[03:34] <josh_> en1gma: for halo?? Should be able to pop the cd in and open the installer
[03:34] <Mxzklc> Auriga: ye its bad but for all i do on it its more than enough, what one you use?
[03:34] <carolina> Starminn i'm trying to understand your advise but went i look for that aplication I realized both are installed, i'm new here and i can't get very well the things you told me, i really offer you an apology and thank you for your help
[03:34] <dr_Willis> en1gma most all the install disks should work with nvidia BUT - i have to use the nomodeset option on most all my nvidia systems to get them to boot properly  to install.
[03:34] <AnubArack> I get an error in Ubuntu Tweak http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/b8xs3dj0/Selection_018.png Anyone got this ?
[03:34] <josh_> en1gma: just right click and open with wine, not the cautious-handler or w/e it is
[03:34] <Auriga> Mxzklc, I play around with DSL from time to time, right now Slitaz is the one I am playing wiht.
[03:35] <Auriga> Mxzklc, So far it is awesome.
[03:35] <en1gma> my cousin is with me at my house...his computer is at his house so we cant test...im in windows enviroment
[03:35] <en1gma> hes here reading what you are saying and he says he right clicked and tried to open with wine
[03:35] <en1gma> he says it wouldnt open
[03:36] <Mxzklc> Auriga : yes that's a good one, only tried in vm tho, couldnt be bothered to burn it on cd
[03:36] <josh_> en1gma: what was the err msg?
[03:36] <Auriga> Mxzklc, That is where I have it now.
[03:36] <LUcase> !es
[03:36] <Mxzklc> Auriga: as i said i use it only to fix other ppl's computer so no need for mine lol
[03:36] <en1gma> hes thinking
[03:36] <en1gma> he says he dont remembt
[03:36] <Auriga> Mxzklc, I have a netbook on it's way hence my looking at other distros again.
[03:36] <en1gma> r*
[03:36] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Also looking at Arch which so far is a head ache.
[03:37] <Mxzklc> Auriga: if you say please its not lol
[03:37] <josh_> en1gma: funny thing with cd's in the current iteration of ubuntu, they complain about executable bit (ask him if that's what it was)
[03:37] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Lol I'll try that next time... Please pacman get-update.
[03:37] <josh_> en1gma: make sure you use wine loader directly, and not with nautilus's default cautious-loader or w/e it is.
[03:37] <en1gma> he says he got wine from ubuntu package manager
[03:38] <dr_Willis> theres a  silly security feature where the .exe for wne needs obe executable.. and thats  a issue with how cd's get mounted by default
[03:38] <Mxzklc> Auriga: lol
[03:38] <en1gma> i dont know if there is any configuring that needs done
[03:38] <Starminn> en1gma: For me, at least, when I try opening things with WINE like that it won't work. I have to type in a Terminal "wine /path/to/file"
[03:38] <josh_> en1gma: cautious-launcher is what it is, prolly.
[03:38] <dr_Willis> easy work around. use the terminal. NOT the gui to launch the exe.   ->  wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe
[03:38] <Mxzklc> Auriga: you know what netbook you re going to buy?
[03:38] <Auriga> Mxzklc, That is my second tech joke, I think I am now officially a geek...
[03:38] <en1gma> ok hes writing this down
[03:38] <Auriga> Mxzklc, It's an Asus something, already on it's way.
[03:38] <josh_> (Starminn, one compound word -- cautious-launcher ;] )
[03:39] <dr_Willis> Im still not sure how requireing a .exe to be executable when its not a real linux executable is a security feature.
[03:39] <policyq> is Unity 2D on a LiveCD anywhere yet?
[03:39] <Starminn> josh_ I saw your answer after I gave mine, lol.
[03:39] <Mxzklc> Auriga: already on its way == tomorrow some dude may come to your house and say "your netbook is ready"? (sounds much like suse ads lol)
[03:39] <Starminn> josh_: What exactly is cautious-launcher?
[03:39] <josh_> dr_Willis: ionno O.o
[03:39] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Lol.
[03:39] <dr_Willis> policyq i thouight it was allready on them.  the GDM/Login screen should have a menu item to select it. Ive never sene a  special live cd with Just the 2d env
[03:40] <dr_Willis> starminn a front end to wine. that dosent seem to do a lot :)
[03:40] <Mxzklc> Auriga: i think im sticking with dell, business support is good, if i throw my pc outa the window i can call them say "my pc grown legs and jumped, fix it!" and they will do it
[03:40] <dr_Willis> starminn othe then to check the executable bit and pop up a dialog.
[03:40] <josh_> Starminn: basically, it's a program that says it doesn't have the executable bit set if it's a CD (more or less).
[03:40] <en1gma> i have an intel x25-v 40gb ssd with win7 installed on it and no space to install ubuntu if i want....but i can do a secure virtual machine with it?
[03:40] <josh_> Starminn: it's a big PITA
[03:40] <en1gma> i got 4GB
[03:40] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Yeah but that means you have people poking around your machine too... That's not cool.
[03:41] <dr_Willis> en1gma  secure virtualmachine? you can use vbox or vmware. yes...
[03:41] <Starminn> josh_: Yeah, the "executable bit" is what prevents me from runnning things from a right-click menu.
[03:41] <en1gma> maybe i can test with that stuff.
[03:41] <dr_Willis> but whats 'secure' got to do with it? :)
[03:41] <en1gma> in my bios it says svm
[03:41] <dr_Willis> virtualbox is handy for your ubuntu needs.
[03:41] <Mxzklc> Auriga: what you mean? business is tech at home, he cant do nasty stuff lol
[03:41] <carolina> Starminn i'm trying to understand your advise but went i look for that aplication I realized both are installed, i'm new here and i can't get very well the things you told me, i really offer you an apology and thank you for your help
[03:41] <en1gma> i tested virtual box with some app i forgot what it was but it was neat
[03:41] <dr_Willis> en1gma sounds like more buzzwords to me.
[03:41] <[deXter]> Hey all, how can I check, without opening my computer, what sort of RAM is installed? (DDR 2/3 ? / modules / manufacturer / frequency etc)
[03:41] <josh_> en1gma: well, if you have no space on windows (like right-click C [D?] and it says you have zilch space), a VM wouldn't help =s
[03:41] <Mxzklc> Auriga: 1 reason why im limiting my macs to 1, i have no apple stores close to me and support wont let me see what they do, hence no trust lol
[03:42] <policyq> dr_Willis: i did try Natty Alpha 3 but it didnt have Unity2D when I logged in without a 3D card. I dont remember a GDM menu but didnt really look for one. before i give that another try, is that the LiveCD you are thinking of that might have it?
[03:42] <en1gma> i gonna x out and try and get this going...thnx for the help
[03:42] <josh_> aaand he's gone =s
[03:42] <dr_Willis> policyq	  havent used natty. I dont even like the netbook interface.
[03:42] <Auriga> Mxzklc, I wouldn't want to pay for an apple...
[03:42] <leaveboy> /c/c
[03:42] <dr_Willis> policyq with natty. i think its all on the same disk now. theres not going to be differnt editions.
[03:43] <Mxzklc> Auriga: i have 1, its there sitting lol
[03:43] <Starminn> carolina: Ah. I just said, as a wild guess since nobody else was here, that it's basically trying to use the wrong thing. So I said you could always just try running "metacity --replace" in a Terminal and try again and maybe it'll fix itself that way?
[03:43] <policyq> dr_Willis: oh, which particular one did you think might have the GDM/login ? any one in particular
[03:43] <Starminn> carolina: Now that there are more people here, however, try asking others too if that doesn't do it.
[03:43] <josh_> unity, eeeew
[03:43] <josh_> heh.
[03:43] <dr_Willis> policyq must have been the normal netbook cd. i dont even know of any others that exist.
[03:43] <Auriga> Mxzklc, This is the one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220850
[03:44] <vtrah> I have a problem with my graphics card in ubuntu. anyone can help me?
[03:44] <dr_Willis> policyq you could always do a install to a flahs drive and just install the thing if its not on the default cd.
[03:44] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Apple is way to heavily priced, plus they are releasing things more quickly than anyone else too meaning you are always buying old products almost.
[03:44] <carolina> Starminn: thank you very much! :)
[03:44] <Breach> I picked up an Acer Aspire One D255E (10.1 netbook) just to play around with. Which would be the best option.. Ubuntu 10.10 or the 10.10 netbook edition?
[03:45] <brightspark> vtrah: brand of card?
[03:45] <dr_Willis> breach dosent really matter.  depends on the interface you want by default
[03:45] <cak054> linuxmint
[03:45] <policyq> dr_Willis: i might give that a shot if it turns out not on Natty when i give it another try. whats the package name? if you know off hand
[03:45] <edbian> Breach, It's opinion really.  I suppose netbook edition is friendlier to small screens but many people (myself included) can't stand it.
[03:45] <josh_> Breach: are you familiar with both? either?
[03:45] <vtrah> intel chipset 82945GZ
[03:45] <dr_Willis> breach with 11.04 it wont matter. the 2 will be the same. :)
[03:45] <Breach> I'm new to ubuntu, I have used redbox many years ago
[03:45] <dr_Willis> breach you mean redhat?
[03:46] <vtrah> I use ubuntu Natty.
[03:46] <carolina> Starminn: Now I have to leave :(  but i'm going to try all this!! thx for your help! :)
[03:46] <josh_> Breach: well, unity is going to be 'revolutionary', I guess. Not that that is always good =/
[03:46] <Mxzklc> Auriga: that netbooks is great, i see support is way cheaper than dell lol (they charge alot for accidental damage) but, i hope im wrong im not sure video card is going to be fine
[03:46] <Breach> duh, just rented a movie tonight so redbox is in my head, yes.. redhat
[03:46] <nit-wit> Breach, ethoer will work I use the desktop on mine with a external monitor though.
[03:46] <Starminn> carolinaL Sure thing.
[03:46] <nit-wit> *either
[03:46] <Starminn> josh_: +1
[03:46] <josh_> Breach: versus the gnome you know and love, more or less.
[03:46] <brightspark> vtrah: is the problem Natty-specifc?
[03:46] <Mxzklc> Auriga: and about apple, yes alot overpriced, but rather cool operating system (a well dressed freebsd lol)
[03:46] <Starminn> josh_: Then you've got GNOME 3 doing away with minimize/maximize
[03:46] <Starminn> josh_: GNOME 3's move is like Apple eliminating right-click.
[03:46] <merma> http://www.gsick.com/gnome_shell/
[03:47] <vtrah> unity can't load in my desktop.
[03:47] <dr_Willis> breach i would stick to the desktop env. the netbook interface is annoying. :)  plys when 11/.04 comes out- you will have to learn a new inteface anyway
[03:47] <Auriga> Mxzklc, I haven't seen a mac since the mid 90's So I can't say what it's like but still I'm not driven to save for one lol.
[03:47] <josh_> Starminn: eeh. I think that's not so cool, but otoh I'm using xmonad and have no minimize, maximize or restore ;)
[03:47] <Breach> dr_Willis: Is 11.04 pretty stable right now?
[03:47] <Starminn> josh_ Lol
[03:48] <Mxzklc> Auriga: i am, just for the sake of seeing cats names in my install cd lol, have you checked if your graphic card is supported by nouveau?
[03:48] <brightspark> do you get an error message?
[03:49] <Auriga> Mxzklc, No I haven't actually...
[03:49] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Though from some reviews I am seeing, Things are installing by default pretty well.
[03:49] <Mxzklc> Auriga: lol bluetooth 3 and wifi N is awesome
[03:49] <nit-wit> Breach, I would not use it as a relied on setup in other words no.
[03:49] <Mxzklc> Auriga: you may have problems with nvidia card, being forced to use integrated one
[03:49] <Breach> nit-wit: So will the desktop 10.10 be difficult with the small screen?
[03:49] <Auriga> Mxzklc, If it had USB 3. It would have been the complete package.
[03:49] <policyq> Starminn: so there wont be any resize windows in GNOME 3 at all or will it just be deemphasized
[03:50] <policyq> ?
[03:50] <Auriga> Mxzklc, I will find a way around it when it arrives.
[03:50] <Firefishe> Can 10.04 upgrade to kde 4.6?
[03:51] <Starminn> policyq: As I understand it you will still be able ot resize as usual, but there will be no minimize/maximize, as (according to them) "there are plenty other ways to maximize windows, and with multiple desktops there is no true need to minimize" (not a direct quote, btu close)
[03:51] <Mxzklc> Auriga: you can either "not install nvidia drivers" (which is supposed to leave u with intel card) or "install nouveau drivers for it" (which is supposed to work as much as nouveau would)
[03:51] <Mxzklc> Auriga: thats all i know since my laptop was supposed to have a nvidia optimus card too and i gone with intel gma hd lol
[03:51] <Auriga> Mxzklc, So wait, you said earlier about saying please to Arch as a joke...  Does that mean you have installed a gui on Arch before?
[03:51] <Starminn> Firefishe: Try in #kubuntu?
[03:51] <gilles> hey .. can any1 help me with  starcraft 2 ... i have teamviewer so some1 can connect and see the problem and help me .. i got teh game running , full screen only, sound works i can log in but cant play multiplayer or siungleplaye
[03:51] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Thanks for the heads up on that. That will save me some time when I get it.
[03:51] <nit-wit> Breach, I guess you should just download t and run it live really I don't mind it that way when I actualy need it.
[03:51] <Mxzklc> Auriga: pretty much a waste of money since nehalem gma isnt that great but whatever lol
[03:52] <Firefishe> Starminn: Well, I *could* ;-) .  I find it mostly dead, though.
[03:52] <Mxzklc> Auriga: you can also google optimus linux  and find out all you need, mainly they ll say its not supported and you'll need to do something (not install drivers or try nouveau, all i found before deciding to go intel lol)
[03:52] <Mxzklc> Auriga: about the gui, there is alot of documentation, or at least there was when i tried
[03:53] <schock> fresh natty install on vaio vpcz. boot: error: symbol not found: 'grub_env_export'
[03:53] <Logan_> !natty | schock
[03:53] <Auriga> Mxzklc, I just hit circles, I got things downloaded obviously, but I can't configure anything.
[03:53] <Auriga> Mxzklc, I was trying to get my uncle online earlier to help me, but he got to busy.
[03:53] <tohuw> I just installed mysql. How do I run "mysql" if the user mysql has no password?
[03:54] <gilles> hey .. can any1 help me with  starcraft 2 ... i have teamviewer so some1 can connect and see the problem and help me .. i got teh game running , full screen only, sound works i can log in but cant play multiplayer or siungleplaye
[03:54] <Mxzklc> Auriga: have you checked their documentation? it was long ago but i remember it wasnt that hard, not harder than kde on freebsd -.- (cloning processes lol)
[03:54] <Auriga> Mxzklc, I was going with Awesome WM...
[03:55] <Auriga> Mxzklc, I have some documentation on it for A Vbox VM, as I'm not smart enough to do it without, but my issues was mounting Guest Additions.
[03:55] <Starminn> Firefishe: Could you not just install the KDE desktop environment and choose it at login?
[03:55] <Breach> nit-wit: I will do that. Thanks. :)
[03:55] <Mxzklc> Auriga: actually when i used arch i copyNpasted everything from documentation lol
[03:55] <nit-wit> Breach, sure no prob.:)
[03:55] <brightspark> gilles: I gather through WINE?  or a virtual machine of some sort?
[03:55] <Auriga> Mxzklc, It's good to know it's not just me.
[03:55] <Genghiz9> Any way to run Gnome apps on KDE plasma ?
[03:56] <Mxzklc> Auriga: well if you do it for the first time you re supposed to have troubles
[03:56] <Firefishe> Starminn: I already have kde installed.  My distro is 10.04 LTS.
[03:56] <Genghiz9> nigelb: elo
[03:56] <tohuw> Genghiz9: install gtk
[03:56] <josh_> Genghiz, click the menu, find the app, click it ;)
[03:56] <josh_> Genghiz9: If it's installed you can use it!
[03:56] <gilles> through wine
[03:56] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Yeah this is my first time, but I have never managed to install Guess Additions in any Linux host before either.
[03:56] <Genghiz9> tohuw, josh_ : I installed the kde-desktop on ubuntu gnome
[03:56] <gilles> bright spark : .. WINE
[03:56] <Genghiz9> refuses to boot
[03:56] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Which is adding to the pains.
[03:56] <mndrll> hey, im trying to get my embedded webcam in my HP Pavilion dv9275la working on Lubuntu, does anyone knows??
[03:57] <Genghiz9> keeps looping into the login street
[03:57] <Genghiz9> *screen
[03:57] <tohuw> Genghiz9: any app you attempt to install should offer the necessary requirements.
[03:57] <Logan_> !lubuntu | mndrll
[03:57] <Firefishe> Starminn: I've done the usual kubuntu ppa backports repository upgrade, but it's not upgrading.  10.10 will upgrade to 4.6, but I'm not using it; to me, it's too full of bugs, and this is a production machine.
[03:57] <tohuw> Genghiz9: Check the logs.
[03:58] <Genghiz9> unable to log into recovery console
[03:58] <Bruce_Wayne> Hey guys, is there any way to get rid of that "Unlock Keyring" password verification for allowing gwibber when we log in? Can we just set it default for our account?
[03:58] <Genghiz9> last time.. It failed to install asked me to dpkg
[03:58] <Genghiz9> then it said not enough space
[03:58] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: my isp likes jokes, i may have lost your last message again (disconnected)
[03:58] <Starminn> Firefishe: Ah, well.... #kubuntu (or if #kde exists then it) would be the place to ask...
[03:59] <Auriga> Mxzklc, Yeah this is my first time, but I have never managed to install Guess Additions in any Linux host before either. [Was my last]
[03:59] <Firefishe> Starminn: I appreciate your attempts.  Thank you for trying :).
[03:59] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: you plan on using arch on that netbook?
[03:59] <Starminn> :)
[03:59] <cosmo> I know in win7 I can link folders to my library folders like video or music, can I do the same in ubuntu and if so how?
[03:59] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, Might do, might try CB though.
[04:00] <josh_> Bruce_Wayne: does it complain about 'the keyring not being unlocked when you log in'?
[04:00] <mndrll> ubottu, thanks
[04:00] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, Just looking for something that will teach me more.
[04:00] <mndrll> one other thing..
[04:00] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: as metre to see if linux is supposed to work i use fedora and ubuntu, try them first , less risks to find out too late that linux has issues on it
[04:00] <josh_> Bruce_Wayne: or is it just a boilerplate err?
[04:00] <Mxzklccc> Auriga : try ubuntu first, lets you know whats proprietary into it lol
[04:01] <mndrll> how can i get to change the keyboard language??
[04:01] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, Yeah I use Ubuntu now obviously.
[04:01] <Logan_> !keyboard | mndrll
[04:01] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, Lol, I go to start up the Arch Vm.... &...? I have forgotten the user info I installed lol....
[04:01] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: i mean on the netbook, especially due to the nvidia optimus thing, also , since ubuntu i massively used you will find way more solutions on their forums
[04:02] <lakeoftea> what's a good cli irc client for ubuntu
[04:02] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: lol
[04:02] <josh_> mehbeh Bruce_Wayne had some crimefighting duties to attend to :(
[04:02] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, Oh of course. That goes without saying.
[04:02] <lakeoftea> lls
[04:02] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: sad part is nvidia said they wont support linux...newbs <.<
[04:02] <Bruce_Wayne> josh_, I'm sorry my friend for late reply
[04:02] <merma> http://www.gsick.com/ubuntu_girls/
[04:03] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, Really? So they are stopping the current support?
[04:03] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: i said it wrong, i meant support for optimus on linux
[04:03] <Bruce_Wayne> josh_, I have kept "Automatic Log on" feature in ubuntu
[04:03] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, Ahhh okay. Then that's okay.
[04:03] <Bruce_Wayne> Josh_, and I'm using gwibber for social networking
[04:03] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: neither optimus nor wayland, what the heck
[04:04] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, I don't even know what they are lol.
[04:04] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: but in your case you can rely on an intel card too (optimus uses 2)
[04:04] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: im not anglophone so its hard to explain but
[04:04] <josh_> Bruce_Wayne: aah. The auto login is a slightly different thing; in that it should still unlock your keyring. You use gdm?
[04:04] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, Yeah though I intend on making everything on that netbook work %100.
[04:05] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, Ahhh Italian.
[04:05] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: optimus lets you reduce power consumption by using intel card when you dont need high graphics and nvidia card when you do (like when you play)
[04:05] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, It's okay. I will google it all.
[04:05] <josh_> (Bruce_Wayne: you prolly use gdm).
[04:05] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, Ahhh that, yeah I didn't know it had a name.
[04:05] <Bruce_Wayne> Josh_, so when I log in in my account in ubuntu.. it asks me for "Unlock Keyring" password and when I type in my password, only after that gwibber is accessible.. It's not about not typing the password.. but it gets little annoying everytime
[04:05] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: lol it shows my ip
[04:05] <Bruce_Wayne> josh_, what's gdm?
[04:05] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, It shows your country also.
[04:06] <josh_> Bruce_Wayne: gnome display manager, it starts up things (Your login prompt, if you had one ;] )
[04:06] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: and my face? i remember it did on xchat but on empathy it doesnt let me see lol
[04:06] <ClayG> Is it possible to make the "drawer" you add to your panel in gnome able to hold more than 3 measly apps/icons? I don't see it in properties
[04:06] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, Lol yes I can see you scratching yourself.
[04:07] <Belial`> ok, so far i've tried running nvidia-xconfig, and tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after installing the proprietary nvidia driver and it still won't start x.
[04:07] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: omg!
[04:07] <Oloh> On a fresh Ubuntu 10.10 install on a desktop pc: on first boot I have no USB (mouse or keyboard) support. Both work fine up to the Ubuntu login screen.
[04:07] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, Lol & so can everyone else!
[04:07] <Oloh> Rebooting presents with same problem. USB is turned on in the BIOS
[04:07] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: gotta smile then
[04:08] <Bruce_Wayne> josh_, I have no idea how it works or what's it.. :(
[04:08] <josh_> Bruce_Wayne: not so sure about the why yet, so un momento
[04:08] <schock> Belial: you might have to remove all competing nvidia drivers
[04:08] <schock> Belial: Uninstall any previously installed Nvidia drivers: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia* sudo apt-get install binutils gcc
[04:09] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: mmmm that would be good to track me if i was here to troll, i have dynamic ip but at this point i dont have a dynamic face
[04:09] <zubin71> Hey everyone, Im assuming that ubuntu is taking part in gsoc 2011 too, so is there an ideas list put up? I couldn't find any.
[04:09] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, A lot of people don't have a dynamic face either lol.
[04:10] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, I just realized how small Arch is...
[04:10] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: because there arent enough, wait for faceV6 there will be more
[04:11] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: yes it is, its good if you want a fully tweaked system
[04:11] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, That you have to play with to make work that is lol.
[04:11] <nit-wit> Auriga, it is a net download be careful.
[04:11] <angelgv74> why giftoxic cant contact gift daemon?
[04:11] <mndrll> Logan_, i forgot to mention that im using lubuntu 10.10
[04:11] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, No, this is the iso.
[04:12] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: erm....bad sides of it lol
[04:12] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: it wasnt me who said that thing lol
[04:12] <Logan_> mndrll: Lubuntu support is in #lubuntu
[04:12] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, Lol.
[04:12] <josh_> Bruce_Wayne: so it appears it *does* have to deal with logging in automatically, as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1459804
[04:12] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: oh no nevermind i just got what you meant
[04:12] <mndrll> Logan_, thanks!!
[04:12] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: you got said its a net download be careful, no idea what you re doing, i thought that iso thing was in reply to that
[04:13] <josh_> Bruce_Wayne: the last post, and the post on the next page detail it out. There's also a link to a bug report for a solution but I haven't read it yet...
[04:13] <nit-wit> Mxzklccc, arch doesn't have a live cd.
[04:13] <Bruce_Wayne> josh_: very nice of you .. thanks I will sure have a look at it
[04:13] <Auriga> Mxzklccc, I love the intro to it... If want to install on something more exotic, like a kerosene cheese grater lol.
[04:13] <josh_> Bruce_Wayne: no prob :)
[04:14] <Mxzklccc> nit-wit: what do you mean by saying that?
[04:14] <Mxzklccc> Auriga: lol
[04:14] <captain_> hey guys xubuntu comes with a remote desktop viewer....is that the best one to use? and if so how do I set that up on other non xubuntu machines to connect to it?
[04:14] <nit-wit> Mxzklccc, I just was passing on info.
[04:15] <nit-wit> :)
[04:15] <Mxzklccc> nit-wit: oh, i thought you were pointing out something wrong i said (sorry im a lil sleepy hard to think what i may have said wrong lol)
[04:16] <Mxzklccc> nit-wit: there is a live wannabe btw, not arch, not full , not good but someone attempted http://archie.dotsrc.org/
[04:16] <[deXter]> Anyone?
[04:16] <Vegas_HP> hey guys xubuntu comes with a remote desktop viewer....is that the best one to use? and if so how do I set that up on other non xubuntu machines to connect to it?
[04:16] <Logan_> !repeat | Vegas_HP
[04:16] <Logan_> !xubuntu | Vegas_HP
[04:17] <Mxzklccc> vegas_hp what you mean by "best"?
[04:18] <Vegas_HP> Mxzklccc - is it worth it to use? Or should I use something else
[04:18] <Mxzklccc> vegas_hp: depends, what are you looking for? something specific?
[04:18] <nit-wit> Mxzklccc, actualy if you want a arch live with openbox go here. http://archbang.org/
[04:19] <Vegas_HP> No, im just going to set it up mainly as an FTP server that sits in the cornor
[04:19] <thraspic> I changed the icons for wicd easily, but I can't figure out how to change the icon for the volume icon in the tray.  /usr/share/icons/theme has 6 folders with the same icons in 6 different resolutions.  how do i know which to change?
[04:19] <josh_> Vegas_HP: There's tons of software out there for remote viewing, and we dont know all of them. Gotta know what it is you want to do :)
[04:19] <Vegas_HP> Mxzlccc - No, im just going to set it up mainly as an FTP server that sits in the cornor
[04:19] <Mxzklccc> Vegas_hp : in that case id say yes
[04:20] <Vegas_HP> Mzxklccc - so what program is it using then?  So i can install that software on other machines
[04:20] <josh_> Vegas_HP: if you are going to use it for FTP, why a graphical desktop? =S or do you have a graphical app better suited than a commandline app? I ask because it would seem ssh would be a better option..
[04:21] <josh_> Vegas_HP and others: I mean on the remote side; the viewer app would still be graphic of course, unless he decided he didn't need it ;|
[04:21] <schock> Belial: any luck?
[04:21] <schock> Belial: you can also try Open module blacklist as admin gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf Add these lines and save: blacklist vga16fb blacklist nouveau blacklist rivafb blacklist nvidiafb blacklist rivatv
[04:22] <weecol> do any of you guys get paid to work on irc?
[04:22] <Prillicy> ok, so this is attempt #7 to install Ubuntu
[04:23] <angelgv74> when i start giftoxic, an alert puts daemon had started but can't contact, (in spanish) what can I do?
[04:23] <Vegas_HP> Josh - No, I have used FreeNX but just never set it up myself and I am failling at installing it.  I tried Team Viewer and that didnt work.  I saw that this "remote desktop viewer" as already pre installed and wondered if it was a safe and easy program to use.  Mainly going to be using it for FTP maybe some surffing but not anything intentesive
[04:23] <Mxzklcc> vegas_hp : sorry disconnected, you said anything?
[04:24] <Prillicy> I formatted my hard drive and stuck usb Ubuntu on an SD card and managed to get (with some hassle) ubuntu to run from the usb disc.  Now, I got it to recognize my hard drive and teold it to install and it's gotten all the way through the installation process to the "Who are you?" screen.  Here, it's refusing to allow me to click Forward.  Did I miss something stupid?
[04:24] <Mxzklcc> pò
[04:24] <bastidrazor> Prillicy: use all lowercase
[04:24] <Mxzklcc> prillicy: did you tell it who you are?
[04:24] <josh_> Vegas_HP: if the default is the same as vanilla ubuntu, it should be ok
[04:25] <Prillicy> I filled in my name, a computer name, a username, a password, and tried log in automaticlally AND requiremy password, with and without Encrypt my home folder checked...still only lets me click back
[04:25] <josh_> Vegas_HP: (The viewer I have is vinagre, works ok and does ssh and vnc).
[04:25] <Prillicy> lowercase?
[04:25] <Mxzklcc> Prillicy: it shown any error?
[04:26] <Prillicy> that did it, all lowercase, it didn't really say that...anywhere
[04:27] <bastidrazor> Prillicy: it does not inform you that lowercase should be used.. hopefully their working to put in a factoid for the installer
[04:27] <Prillicy> I must've missed it
[04:27] <Prillicy> I often miss the obvious
[04:27] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Are you installing right now?
[04:27] <Vegas_HP> Josh any idea what this program is called so i can download and use it on my other machines
[04:28] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: win 7 and ubuntu?
[04:28] <Prillicy> also, I should note, I can't read the installer details on a netbook.  The 1028x600 resolution cuts off all the install details when I try to read them because the window becomes too big for the screen, maybe that's where it said to use lowercase
[04:28] <[deXter]> Anyone?
[04:28] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Just wondered out of interest.
[04:28] <bastidrazor> Prillicy: it does not tell you to use lowercase.
[04:28] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: sorry dont get the question, you wondered  if i decided to install on my dell?
[04:29] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Yes & if you are doing it right now?
[04:29] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: not yet, mainly because dell is back in the pack and the room where it is is rather distant from where i am now lol, may get on it soon tho
[04:29] <josh_> Vegas_HP: the viewer? 'vinagre'
[04:29] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: just abit concerned about security of a dl'ed win iso lol
[04:29] <Prillicy> thanks hastidrazor
[04:29] <Prillicy> *b]
[04:30] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: and if i happen to miss anything you say im not ignoring you, most probably lost connection lol
[04:30] <bastidrazor> Prillicy: you're welcome.
[04:30] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, It's Microsoft, security is always going to be an issue
[04:30] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: eeek
[04:30] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Okay, apropos your connection issues.
[04:30] <Prillicy> I have a question about proxies. Is there a better channel to ask in?
[04:31] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: never heard apropos O_O always used about lol, 1 more word in my dictionary thanks
[04:31] <Vegas_HP> Josh - im going to be connecting via a windows machine what desktop viewer would you recommend?
[04:31] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Apropos actually means "At an opportune time" But it's usage has evolved to be used as 'Regarding' something also.
[04:32] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: more notes for me thanks again lol
[04:32] <josh_> Vegas_HP: puTTY I hear good things about if it's command line only, if it's VNC I'm sure there's a good viewer.
[04:32] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Lol, Carpe Diem.
[04:32] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: thats latin lo
[04:32] <Mxzklcc> *lol
[04:32] <josh_> (Vegas_HP: as I only use windows a few times a year now, I can't reccomend any ;] )
[04:33] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Yes.
[04:33] <Vegas_HP> Josh - thats ok thanks for the help
[04:33] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: well i know alil of it, supposed to come from that lol
[04:33] <josh_> well, addedum: I only use windows a few times a year *other* than at a school lab.
[04:33] <bruno> rg
[04:33] <jiltdil> how to make my open office presentation password protected means to open it in any desktop or laptop it need password to open it?
[04:33] <josh_> Vegas_HP: glad to help!
[04:33] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Lectori salutem, cavet et emtor.
[04:34] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Or something so...
[04:34] <Vegas_HP> Anyone know of a good VNC?  I have a windows laptop i would like to use to connect to my xubuntu box
[04:34] <Vegas_HP> VNC or SSH
[04:34] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: lol you did it more than me or what =P
[04:34] <Mxzklcc> by did i mean studied
[04:34] <josh_> ^ vnc viewer for Windows, right Vegas_HP?
[04:35] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, No It's just a little knowledge is all.
[04:35] <jiltdil> how to make my open office presentation password protected means to open it in any desktop or laptop it need password to open it?
[04:35] <josh_> Vegas_HP: cus they'll just give you ubuntu ones otherwise ;)
[04:35] <Vegas_HP> josh - yeah but would the vnc be secure though
[04:35] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: when you buy win 7  cavet et emtor.	
[04:36] <josh_> Vegas_HP: depends on your needs but probably. Wikipedia has more info on that.
[04:36] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, YEs lol!
[04:36] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: hope it doesnt apply to the iso i got
[04:37] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Timeo denaos, et donna forentes. [Spelt incredibly wrong though]
[04:37] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, I don't think it will apply. You should be okay as it is from a legitimate enough source.
[04:37] <josh_> Vegas_HP: at this point I think the internet is a good(-er?) resource for you, wouldn't want to do your homework for you ;)
[04:37] <Mxzklcc> Auriga : timeo denaos et dona ferentes lol
[04:38] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: digitalriver is microsoft's partner, but who would be so dumb to leave such a file (win7 iso) accidentally on public download?
[04:38] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Hey man I was pretty close.
[04:38] <Prillicy> mocprobe FATAL error on startup <---same error I've been having I suspect
[04:38] <Prillicy> *modprobe
[04:38] <notsocommon> s
[04:38] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: not only you were close, but you also gave me a precious hint
[04:38] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: "dont let windows come inside" LOL
[04:38] <jiltdil> how to make my open office presentation password protected means to open it in any desktop or laptop it need password to open it?
[04:39] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, lol.
[04:39] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: i think that thing means something like "that thing is a trap" or something
[04:39] <Prillicy> meh, it actually started.  I'm not complaining
[04:39] <notsocommon> Does Ubuntu 10.04 have a file comparable to linux-restricted-modules-common that I could use to help me install my graphics card?
[04:40] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Yeah basically, because the Greeks weren't to be trusted.
[04:41] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: the microseeks
[04:41] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, ?
[04:41] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: ms lol
[04:41] <notsocommon> Also my graphics card says it might be getting resistance from nvidiafb and was it nouveau?
[04:41] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Ahhh nice lol.
[04:41] <ericy> jiltdil: Why not just transport it as a password protected zip file.
[04:42] <jiltdil> ericy:means
[04:42] <jiltdil> ericy:how to convert it as zip file
[04:43] <Symmetria> morning all
[04:44] <notsocommon> Does Ubuntu 10.04 have a file comparable to linux-restricted-modules-common that I could use to help me install my graphics card?
[04:44] <saintbasil_> I am unable to mount any device with a hard drive in it via USB. I tried an external HDD, and a Sony Walkman. Both devices mounted fine on my Windows partition and on a separate Ubuntu PC, o I know they are not the problem. I get the following error: http://pastebin.com/b7eKWZwx my dmesg is: http://pastebin.com/33hUkcT8 and my fstab is: http://pastebin.com/SUPrpDsG so what's wrong?
[04:44] <Symmetria> does anyone here happen to know how often ubuntu probes for updates?
[04:44] <Madpilot> jiltdil, to create a zip file, right-click on the file you want to zip and select "Compress..."
[04:44] <notsocommon> Also my graphics card says it might be getting resistance from nvidiafb and was it nouveau?
[04:44] <ericy> jiltdil: Right click on your file in Nautilus file manager, and select to compress it with password.
[04:44] <josh_> Symmetria: distribution or daily updates?
[04:44] <Symmetria> josh, just general updates
[04:45] <jiltdil> ericy:thanx
[04:45] <Symmetria> trying to figure out what someone is doing to one of the mirrors
[04:45] <jiltdil> Madpilot:thanx
[04:45] <josh_> Symmetria: general updates are generally run through update-notifier with a time switch of 60 seconds when you start a session-- or, every time you startup it should look for updates.
[04:45] <ClayG> How do I make the drawer you can add to your gnomepanel larger than 3 icons/applications worth of space?
[04:46] <ClayG> my netbook will not recognize sd cards, how can i fix this?
[04:46] <Symmetria> josh ok, so every time you log in it checks?
[04:46] <josh_> check your startup applications in system/(user?)/startup applications, and look for the update notifier if thats not the case
[04:46] <josh_> Symmetria: mhmm. also ^
[04:47] <ericy> jiltdil: Actually, you should go to the Ubuntu Accessories menu, and open the Archive (compression) Manager, and select zip file with passord.
[04:47] <Prillicy> awesome, this is great
[04:47] <Prillicy> first question: how do I turn off Ubuntu's nanny?
[04:47] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, I'm going to go & watch a movie before I go & sleep, so if anything let me know what happens when you get to your dual install. I want to know if it will work.
[04:47] <Symmetria> josh no can do :) Im just looking at our mirror logs and trying to figure out why a single IP that I presume is a proxy of some sort has managed to rack up 6 million hits to us in the last 4 days
[04:48] <Symmetria> before I phone em and ask em what the hell they doing :)
[04:48] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: sure thing, ill pop in and tell you if i find you on, thanks for your time and for the talk liked it
[04:48] <jiltdil> ericy:yes i see but only .zip file compression provides password if i set to it as other with password how to do it?
[04:48] <notsocommon> Does Ubuntu 10.04 have a file comparable to linux-restricted-modules-common that I could use to help me install my graphics card?
[04:48] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: enjoy the movie and good night when you go
[04:48] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Let me pm you right quick...
[04:48] <Mxzklcc> go on lol
[04:48] <xangua> !info linux-restricted-modules-common lucid | notsocommon
[04:48] <ericy> Madpilot: jiltdil: Actually, you need to the Ubuntu Accessories menu, and open the Archive (compression) Manager, and select zip file with passord.
[04:49] <Prillicy> It's asking me to put in my password every few seconds for one install or another.  Is there a way to turn that off?
[04:49] <notsocommon> xangua-thanks
[04:49] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: mind you im on empathy so not sure if ill see lol
[04:49] <ugliefrog> i recently removed a tuner card from my system and i have put it back in .... is there away to refresh it...its not working like it once did
[04:49] <xangua> Prillicy: it's not, you have 15 minutes after you enter the password
[04:49] <jiltdil> ericy; ya i selected zip with password. i want to say that if i want to use other than.zip then how to set password
[04:49] <soultravel369> I am using xchat and iriss, iriss is really tech hahah
[04:50] <Prillicy> xangua: how do I turn it off?
[04:50] <notsocommon> ubottu-I know it doesn't as such. But I was wondering if there was a comparable directory in lucid to l-r-m-m?
[04:50] <Madpilot> Prillicy, nanny?
[04:50] <Madpilot> ericy, right-click->Compress should also give access to "zip with password" as an option. Possibly under the "other options" dropdown to expose the password dialogue
[04:51] <Madpilot> Prillicy, going with a passwordless install is really NOT recommended...
[04:51] <ericy> jiltdil: You have to use a separate encryption utility( which can encrypt your open office file.
[04:52] <Prillicy> linux has a password, that's cool, but I don' t need to be asked if I'm sure every time I do something
[04:52] <jiltdil> ericy: ok how to make it digitally signature as there is option but m unable to use it
[04:52] <soultravel369> Brian, what part of TX you from?
[04:53] <soultravel369> Brian.... where in TX are you from?
[04:54] <soultravel369> Madpilot... where in TX are you from lolz?
[04:54] <Logan_> !ops
[04:54] <xangua> !ot | soultravel369
[04:55] <ericy> jiltdil: I have not used 'digital signiture' yet (I believe that is PGP encryption). There are many small encryption utilities that you can install.
[04:55] <KB1JWQ> soultravel369: That'll do.
[04:55] <Madpilot> soultravel369, not from anywhere near TX myself. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic not here, though.
[04:55] <Madpilot> Logan_, ?
[04:55] <soultravel369> sorry...
[04:55] <Starminn> Logan_: Did that really require an ops call?
[04:55] <jiltdil> ericy:plz tell me i want to secure it as it is one of my confidential presentation
[04:55] <soultravel369> <--- first time on IRC
[04:56] <soultravel369> whats an ops call?
[04:56] <Prillicy> so no one can tell me how to turn off the nanny in linux?  I can turn off the nanny in windows.  why not linux?
[04:56] <soultravel369> I think I need to read about irc more now hahah
[04:56] <Madpilot> Prillicy, because Linux is more secure than Windows. Next question?
[04:57] <ericy> jiltdil: In Synaptic Package Manager, search for: file encrypt
[04:57] <Starminn> soultravel369: In this channel, when somebody says "!ops" as the first thing on a line it calls all of the channel operators (i.e. the people who govern this channel)
[04:57] <ClayG> my netbook will not recognize sd cards, how can i fix this?
[04:57] <jiltdil> ericy:ok thanx
[04:57] <soultravel369> oooh okay, thanks Starminn
[04:57] <Starminn> Prillicy:  IT is what defines Linux and makes it so much more secure than Windows. Windows only just started implementing a password system (half-assed, too, if I may say so myself). Why? Because they saw how great it was.
[04:57] <Madpilot> soultravel369, just hang out here, ask questions if you have any. "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" to join the offtopic chat channel.
[04:57] <josh_> Prillicy: more security isn't always so bad. If you need to do something for long periods of time as root, though, there's always sudo su
[04:58] <Prillicy> Madpilot: so you're saying that linux needs a nanny to protect users from all those nasty linux viruses out there?  I can understand that
[04:58] <soultravel369> k, will do Madpilot
[04:58] <eyesuck> hey whats the command to create a blank file from command line? e.g. "*cmd one.html two.html three.html"
[04:58] <Flannel> eyesuck: touch
[04:58] <eyesuck> ah ok i thought it was something like that
[04:58] <ericy> jiltdil: ok.
[04:58] <soultravel369> you don't need a nanny, you get root to set user privs and stuff
[04:58] <eyesuck> thx
[04:59] <Fudge> hi i have a couple of ubiuntus debian installed etc, but when i update a kernel maverick is updating grub, how can i remove grub-pc from maverick and let lucid manage grub? if i remove it from maverick since lucid had preivously installed it will it still be there or removed completely loL conused
[04:59] <Starminn> !virus | Prillicy
[04:59] <soultravel369> and wine
[04:59] <Madpilot> Prillicy, in Linux, you don't own the system. You own  your own files, the system owns it's files. Hence needing a password to mess with system files. (I'm generalizing)
[04:59] <Prillicy> so if linux doesn't have viruses, why do I need to tell linux that I'm the one making changes....
[04:59] <Starminn> Prillicy: Read up about user permissions.
[04:59] <soultravel369> I don't use wine for the fact of how easy it is to get a virus
[04:59] <josh_> Prillicy: there ARE trojans and rk's out there... but of course, they aren't very prevalent and they generally require *root access* ;)
[04:59] <Madpilot> Prillicy, because it might not be you sitting at the keyboard?
[05:00] <YankDownUnder> Yep, and we all know that getting a virus in linux is a horrible thing.
[05:00] <soultravel369> you tell Linux you make the changes as Root, so that no one else can... safer than Windows
[05:00] <Prillicy> with a netbook?
[05:00] <Logan_> !ops
[05:00] <Starminn> Prillicy: You own your Home folder. For everything else you need to enter the password (i.e. sudo)
[05:00] <Madpilot> ubottu, tell Prillicy about sudo
[05:00] <Logan_> join part span
[05:00] <Logan_> *spam
[05:00] <tsimpson> Prillicy: actually, requiring a password to gain privileges is one of the reasons there aren't many viruses for linux, disabling that feature would help them to spread. but if you want to stop something asking your password every X time, run the installer itself from sudo
[05:00] <soultravel369> sudo gives you root for commands
[05:00] <Madpilot> YankDownUnder, s/horrible/damn near impossible
[05:00] <YankDownUnder> Madpilot, Yes, mate, I know - that was sarcasm.
[05:00] <Logan_> thanks KB1JWQ
[05:01] <soultravel369> Ubuntu = Sudo and Fedora I beleive is Yum... both are root
[05:01] <Prillicy> hmm
[05:01] <Prillicy> thanks for the infor everyone
[05:01] <Starminn> Prillicy: As it stands now, if you were to get a virus, it wouldn't actually hurt anything but a few files because in WIndows it can reach everyhting. In Linux it's confined ot a few files
[05:01] <josh_> Prillicy: what makes you need root access so much neway??
[05:01] <Fudge> hi grub, if i remvoe grub-pc apt wants to isntall grub. how can i remove it from maverick without installing grub?
[05:01] <tsimpson> soultravel369: Yum is a package manager, like apt, not like sudo
[05:01] <Prillicy> apparently installing chrome
[05:01] <em> test
[05:02] <YankDownUnder> Under wine, a virus is just plain stopped dead in it's tracks because it can't affect or automate. End of story.
[05:02] <Madpilot> soultravel369, not quite. Ubuntu's yum equivilent is apt-get or aptitude
[05:02]  * josh_ hi-five's em
[05:02] <Prillicy> which I should note, you can do in windows without even decent access, heh
[05:02] <needlez> anyone know if I can make it so that my computer requires a password to access grub or something like an encrypted harddrive without losing my system??
[05:02] <soultravel369> oooh okay.... Tsimpson... I thought Yum was root equivlant as Sudo in Fedora
[05:02] <soultravel369> my bad
[05:02] <Starminn> Prillicy: That's because it installs it for all users, and if you look at your file heirarchy, /usr is below /home/<yourname>
[05:03] <Jordan_U> Fudge: What is the output of "sudo apt-get remove grub-pc"? Why are you trying to remove grub-pc in the first place?
[05:03] <tsimpson> Prillicy: technically you can in Linux too, just not system-wide
[05:03] <Starminn> Prillicy: And yes, that "without decent access" is why Google has shut down using all Windows computers. Because they got hacked and are now no longer using Windows
[05:03] <Prillicy> so I was looking into multitouch, and hte first thing I found requires me to add code to a file...looks odd to say the least, could someone walk me thorugh this
[05:03] <soultravel369> I use "sudo aptitude install *package*"
[05:03] <Fudge> Jordan_U  grub-pc will be remvoed and grub will be installed
[05:03] <soultravel369> aptitude is cleaner than apt-get imo
[05:03] <Madpilot> KB1JWQ, might want to tweak that ban you set. You might just have banned some significant tranche of AOL victims... :)
[05:03] <Fudge> i have lucid maverick mint and arch on this drive and i am trying to manage grub-pc with lucid
[05:03] <Jordan_U> Fudge: Please pastebin the complete output.
[05:04] <Jordan_U> !mint | Fudge
[05:04] <josh_> needlez: I think grub can be password protected, but that's something that would be easy to find on [search-engine of your choice] ;)
[05:04] <soultravel369> how do yuo like Mavrick compared to Lucid Fudge
[05:04] <needlez> kk thx
[05:04] <Logan_> !ot | soultravel369
[05:04] <jiltdil> how to make my open office presentation such like that its content cannot be copied and also  no one can take  it to his comp?
[05:04] <Fudge> http://pastebin.com/td2ySbAp
[05:04] <Prillicy> nvm, it'
[05:05] <Prillicy> s late and I'm tired
[05:05] <josh_> needlez: glad to help ;) report back after you've done your diligence in searching ;)
[05:05] <Jordan_U> jiltdil: I would be surprised if you could. That sounds like DRM, and is antithetical to the goals of Open Office. Why do you want to do this?
[05:05] <Prinler^Lin> Can someone help me out with a partition issue? I installed XP on the first 160GB of my HD... and the other 160 is ubuntu.... I dont want XP Anymore! How can i delete it and allow Ubuntu to have all 320gb?
[05:05] <Fudge> Jordan_U  its pretty straight forward, sorry if i didnt explain it better
[05:05] <jiltdil> Jordan_U:the data in it is quite confedential so i want to use this
[05:06] <xangua> Prinler^Lin: use gparted from live cd to delete windows partion
[05:06] <Madpilot> jiltdil, short version, don't ever publish it anywhere. Long version, it's very, very hard to keep people from copying stuff...
[05:07] <Jordan_U> jiltdil: If it is confidential then don't give the file to anyone that shouldn't have it.
[05:07] <Prinler^Lin> xangua,  if i delete the partition will my Ubuntu still boot?
[05:07] <Fudge> Jordan_U  did you notice the paste url
[05:07] <jiltdil> Jordan_U:ok thanx
[05:07] <jiltdil> Madpilot:thanx
[05:07] <Jordan_U> jiltdil: Why are you giving it to people who you can't trust if it's confidential? They can always use a camera phone or paper and pencil.
[05:07] <xangua> wikileaks documents are confidentials :P
[05:08] <YankDownUnder> Not 'spose'ta tell folks about Wikileaks...dang...secrets out now...dang...there goes the world...
[05:08] <Jordan_U> Fudge: Yes.
[05:09] <silkon> free energy
[05:09] <Madpilot> jiltdil, if your "quite confidential" file really absolutely has to go up on the web for some reason, it probably isn't that confidential. Still, a password-locked zip with a very strong password is likely a good starting point... or PGP/GPG
[05:09] <silkon> pleace
[05:09] <Jordan_U> Fudge: Can you pastebin the output of "aptitude why grub-pc"? (I don't have this problem when I try to remove grub-pc).
[05:10] <jiltdil> Madpilot: how to use PGP
[05:10] <ericy> jiltdil: gcipher is a simple "encryption" tool.
[05:10] <jiltdil> ericy:thanx
[05:11] <Fudge> Jordan_U  i   startupmanager Depends grub | grub-pc
[05:11] <Madpilot> jiltdil, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[05:11] <jsoftw> Phoar.
[05:11] <Jordan_U> jiltdil: ericy: gcipher offers no real security. Nor does it even  claim to.
[05:11] <ericy> jiltdil: Yes that is right.
[05:11] <Fudge> Jordan_U  so i can remove startupmanager anyway i believe
[05:11] <jiltdil> Jordan_u: u r right i saw gcipher
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Fudge: Then: sudo apt-get remove grub-pc startupmanager
[05:12] <joshmclvl1> grr, dumb network. josh_ is back!
[05:12] <Madpilot> Jordan_U, what, ROT13 isn't a leet pure awesome encryption method???
[05:12] <Fudge> Jordan_U  its done, thank you i didnt know about aptitude why, very helpful mate
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Fudge: You're welcome.
[05:12]  * joshmclvl1 chuckles at Madpilot
[05:13] <jiltdil> thanx to all!
[05:13] <Jordan_U> Madpilot: abcr
[05:13] <ericy> jiltdil: Searching in package manager, I see bcript, ccrypt etc.
[05:13] <jiltdil> ok i am going to test all
[05:16] <Madpilot> of course, ROT26 is twice as encrypted. Rly.
[05:16] <Madpilot> Jordan_U, abcr?
[05:17] <Jordan_U> Madpilot: "nope" with rot13.
[05:18] <myradlife_> Hey guys!   How do I browse a shared folder on another computer in my LAN using terminal? I know how to do this via file manager, but how can i do this through commandline?
[05:18] <panfist> i'm trying to set my pc to only allow ssh pubkeyauthentication, and i have set no for everything except for PubKeyAuthentication in the config file and restarted, but it still accepts password authentication
[05:19] <joshmclvl1> myradlife_:ssh perhaps?
[05:20] <myradlife_> joshmclvl1, when i use the file browser, does it mount somewhere on my cpu?
[05:20] <YankDownUnder> Mount on your CPU?
[05:20] <myradlife_> computer
[05:20] <myradlife_> not processor
[05:21] <Madpilot> Jordan_U, heh. (that's "heh" in ROT26)
[05:21] <joshmclvl1> myradlife_: um, not too sure ^_^; depends on how you connect; when you set it up what connection method did you choose?
[05:21] <myradlife_> the location via "info" says sftp://ryancomputer.local/Path
[05:21] <jiltdil> myradlife_:if u use ssh use ssh user@ip and then open data by programne filename
[05:21] <joshmclvl1> myradlife_: methinks you probably dont mount it manually.
[05:22] <myradlife_> I'm just going to the "Places" menu, and "Network" find my other computer and it asks for user/pass
[05:22] <jiltdil> myradlife:if u want to copy data use scp via terminal or want to see or made changes i n his data use ssh
[05:23] <myradlife_> okay
[05:25] <Chapati> Jon--, you there?
[05:26] <Chapati> can anyone link to a tutorial on how to set up full drive encryption with truecrypt?
[05:26] <Chapati> i can't find anything
[05:26] <Chapati> i can only make new partitions
[05:27] <panfist> i could boot the 10.10 livecd with 'nomodeset' boot option, but now that i've installed it and tried to boot of the disk, it hangs during "checking battery status"
[05:27] <Jon--> Chapati: here but busy on phone sry
[05:27] <Chapati> Jon--, k
[05:27] <panfist> it does not say ok next to checking battery status
[05:27] <myradlife_> jiltdil, i could ssh into it, scp returns an error: cp: cannot stat `netuser@ryancomputer-2.local': No such file or directory
[05:27] <Chapati> everyone says you can encrypt everything but the /boot folder, yet i can't figure out how to do that at all
[05:27] <sacarlson> Chapati: I'm not sure about truecrypt but there are many with luks and gpg http://lfde.org/getting_started.html
[05:28] <jiltdil> myradlife: only use scp no ssh for connection for copying
[05:29] <myradlife_> jiltdil, I did. My command was scp netuser@ryancomputer-2.local /Users/ryanradjabi/Public/usart-atmega32 ~/Desktop
[05:29] <myradlife_> scp returns an error: cp: cannot stat `netuser@ryancomputer-2.local': No such file or directory
[05:30] <bastidrazor> myradlife_: your command is wrong.. scp file-to-be-copied user@host:path/to/destination
[05:30] <delux> just a quick question, wouldnt ftp be easier then scp?
[05:30] <jiltdil> myradlife:scp hisusername@his ip
[05:30] <bastidrazor> delux: by no means would it be faster/easier.
[05:30] <jiltdil> do thi
[05:31] <homebrewcider> hi all, trying to apt-get install "random package" on my Ubuntu server and it's not connecting to the net, but I can access the pc from other pcs on the network
[05:31] <weecol> you mean sftp
[05:31] <myradlife_> jiltdil, is that usage correct? shouldn't it be scp destination user@host:path/to/file   ?
[05:31] <delux> yeah sftp.
[05:32] <weecol> use the shell if you have trouble
[05:32] <jiltdil> myradlife: oh sorry i
[05:33] <delux> homebrew can you paste what you get with command ifconfig?
[05:33] <homebrewcider> sure. hang on a minute
[05:33] <delux> well, assuming your comfortable with it
[05:33] <mintberrycrunch4> .
[05:33] <mintberrycrunch4> can someone help me real quick
[05:33] <L34rn3r> there is a BackTrack "OS" Channel
[05:34] <weecol> lot of leave and entre traffic
[05:34] <bastidrazor> L34rn3r: #backtrack-linux
[05:35] <weecol> hey guys any meetings planned here?
[05:35] <Logan_> !meetings | weecol
[05:35] <jiltdil> myradlife_:perhabs other helps u i got confused with scp
[05:37] <homebrewcider> trying to work out how to copy/paste from there to pastebin
[05:37] <Logan_> !pastebinit | homebrewcider
[05:38] <delux> oh wow, thats a handy package
[05:38] <delux> *jots it down*
[05:38] <homebrewcider> but that pc has no internet access, that's the whole problem
[05:38] <crlcan81> What the hell is ICEauthority?
[05:38] <delux> irony haha
[05:38] <Logan_> !language | crlcan81
[05:39] <homebrewcider> what part do you wanna know delux?
[05:39] <crlcan81> because I don't know WHAT happened, but now when I login it can't open ICEauthority for my home folder.
[05:39] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[05:39] <weecol> are next meetings in the logs
[05:40] <weecol> ping
[05:40] <crlcan81> What's ICEAuthority then?
[05:41] <crlcan81> I need to figure how exactly I disabled access to it for Ubuntu. So I can correct it.
[05:43] <weecol> !explain ICE
[05:43] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | crlcan81
[05:44] <Jordan_U> crlcan81: It's now owned by root as you ran a GUI command with sudo rather than gksudo. Chown it back to your user to be able to log in again.
[05:46] <abigayle> who's here?
[05:47] <Logan_> 1220 people?
[05:47] <abigayle> wow
[05:48] <Logan_> !pm | abigayle
[05:51] <crlcan81> how do I chown it though? you're talking to someone who hasn't done that stuff before intentionally.
[05:51] <crlcan81> any time that stuff happens it's a secondary effect of some other thing I've done.
[05:51] <jsoftw> chown user:group /path/to/thing
[05:51] <needlez> ok, so got a password on grub. Thanx, btw
[05:52] <jsoftw> :|
[05:52] <crlcan81> so chown crlcan81 /crlcan81/.ICEauthority IF that's the path to ICEauthority?
[05:52] <needlez> no my question is there a way to log the attempted passwords on a lock screen return?? or login screen?? and set a limit to how many times a password can be tried??
[05:52] <jsoftw> What is all this flooding business
[05:53] <crlcan81> netsplit
[05:53] <Logan_> !netsplit | jsoftw
[05:53] <jsoftw> *sigh*
[05:53] <weecol> best to wait a while?
[05:54] <jsoftw> whats that for
[05:54] <jsoftw> !newsgroups
[05:56] <JuNeX> hello
[05:56] <jsoftw> hurro
[05:56] <JuNeX> i have a problem in my samba
[05:56] <JuNeX> -->  'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Invalid parameter.
[05:56] <JuNeX> i can't share my file
[05:57] <jsoftw> *pass*
[05:57] <jsoftw> Aint used samba in a long long time.
[05:57] <JuNeX> i see
[05:58] <grendal_prime> SAMBA'S BAD ASS
[05:58] <JuNeX> im new in ubuntu
[05:58] <JuNeX> what is the best filesharing for ubuntu 10.10?
[05:58] <grendal_prime> samba
[05:58] <JuNeX> need to share it with WINXP
[05:58] <grendal_prime> if you ahve windows boxes
[05:58] <jsoftw> JuNeX: if you're talking windows, then probably samba
[05:58] <crlcan81> I don't know if it was when I did add-apt-repository or if something else went wonky.
[05:58] <grendal_prime> well actually nothing really beats good ol ssh
[05:58] <crlcan81> I just want to figure out how to find the proper path.
[05:59] <grendal_prime> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[05:59] <JuNeX> whats this error means? -> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Invalid parameter.
[05:59] <grendal_prime> too man files...
[05:59] <grendal_prime> many that is
[05:59] <grendal_prime> must compress.
[05:59] <jsoftw> JuNeX: I looks like it doesnt know who Everyone is
[06:00] <JuNeX> hmm
[06:00] <JuNeX> i see where will i change that?
[06:00] <jsoftw> *shrug*
[06:00] <jsoftw> How are you trying to share stuff?
[06:01] <YankDownUnder> Sharing is piracy. :)
[06:01] <JuNeX> i have 2 PC's here 1 is Ubuntu & 1 is WINDOWS XP
[06:01] <JuNeX> just want to know HOW to connect them
[06:02] <needlez> hi was wondering if someone could explain if I can or how to set it to log passwords for login and if I can set an amount of times attempted before complete lock down for a set time
[06:02] <MTecknology> samba is usually the easiest
[06:02] <MTecknology> JuNeX: most people will say samba; there's a lot of other options but that'll be the easiest to understant
[06:02] <MTecknology> understand*
[06:02] <jordan_> question, in 10.10 64 bit how do i get my close window / minimize options back for the top of my folders
[06:03] <rajvi> i found abug with 10.10 on dell mini 10 where should i report it
[06:03] <Ant13> Hello everyone, id need some help dualbooting windows and kubuntu, the official guides dont seem to work as windows loads from grub, goes to windows logo (loading screen) and my pc restarts
[06:03] <brightspark> jordan_: are your buttons not present?
[06:03] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Try asking in ##windows.
[06:04] <JuNeX> @MTecknology what is the meaning of this? --> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Invalid parameter.
[06:04] <JuNeX> i have restarted my system many time already and still having this error when sharing
[06:04] <Ant13> Jordan_U: it's supposed to be a linux problem, since it happens after i installed ubuntu, and generally after grub2 was introduced
[06:05] <MTecknology> JuNeX: is that from your windows box? I've never seen that in linux
[06:05] <JuNeX> its in my ubuntu
[06:05] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You've had Ubuntu make Windows unbootable multiple times before?
[06:05] <sacarlson> Ant13: did you use the windows installer to install ubuntu?  it's called wubi
[06:05] <Ant13> Jordan_U: since 9.10
[06:05] <MTecknology> rajvi: launchpad.net/ubuntu is where ubuntu manages bugs; if you search for the bug, it might already exist
[06:06] <rajvi> i searched it does not exist
[06:06] <Jordan_U> Ant13: So every time you've installed Ubuntu since 9.10 it has taken what was a working Windows install and made it unbootable?
[06:06] <jordan_> brightspark, i got it, i entered conky in my decorations window and messed it up
[06:06] <jordan_> i got them back now
[06:06] <JuNeX> @MTecknology i have right click the folder i want to share and after a click on the create button this error comes out
[06:06] <brightspark> jordan_: glad to hear it
[06:07] <jordan_> brightspark, do u know how to get rid of the shadow outline around conky
[06:07] <Ant13> Jordan_U : history since 9.10 = install windows / boot windows / install ubuntu / boot ubuntu and update it / after restart windows would only go to loading screen then restart
[06:07] <Ant13> Jordan_U : this happened with every version since 9.10
[06:08] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Did you use manual partitioning or automatic?
[06:08] <jordan_> brightspark,  haha nvm, i got it, entered conky in the shadow box
[06:08] <Ant13> Jordan_U: both, also used separate boot partition in my tries
[06:08] <jordan_> and the annoying shadow went away
[06:08] <brightspark> jordan_:  good again!
[06:08] <jordan_> thanks a lot all
[06:08] <Jordan_U> Ant13: What version of Windows?
[06:08] <sacarlson> Ant13: did you install ubuntu with a livecd boot or did you install from withing windows?
[06:08] <jordan_> goodnight
[06:09] <ericy> Ant13: Did you install from ubuntu live-cd (you booted from the cd)?
[06:09] <Ant13> Jordan_U: from xp to 7
[06:09] <Ant13> ericy: from ubuntu live cd (live mode) , from ubuntu desktop cd (install) , from ubuntu alterate (only install)
[06:09] <Jordan_U> Ant13: All on the same computer?
[06:09] <Ant13> Jordan_U: yes, you need details about my computer?
[06:10] <ericy> Ant13: Or did you, from within windows, run wubi.exe?
[06:10] <Ant13> ericy: tried it too, wubi works, but by the time i install it on a separate partition (hence neither side by side nor  as app) windows wont boot
[06:10] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[06:11] <Ant13> Jordan_U: if you are not in a hurry i can fetch my old output from ubuntu forums, assuming its still there
[06:11] <Ant13> Jordan_U: else it would take me abit, switch pc and so on
[06:11] <Jordan_U> Ant13: I'm not in too much of a hurry.
[06:11] <Ant13> Jordan_U: perfect
[06:11] <Ant13> Jordan_U: and thanks for your time
[06:11] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You're welcome.
[06:12] <weia> Ant13: do you know what an mbr is? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record
[06:12] <Ant13> Jordan_U: partition table was slightly different back then, but i think that since it doesnt boot if there is something wrong its there since then
[06:12] <needlez> hi was wondering if someone could explain if I can or how to set it to log passwords for login and if I can set an amount of times attempted before complete lock down for a set time?
[06:13] <sacarlson> Ant13: have you tried providing us info with http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/  with that info we might get a clue as to why it could of happened
[06:13] <Ant13> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/580018/ here it is
[06:13] <Ant13> weia: yes i do why?
[06:14] <brightspark> needlez: try the steps at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1024263
[06:15] <weia> Ant13: looks like grub2's mbr code is incompatible with windows. use another.
[06:16] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: i said it, it happened lol, did you say anything?
[06:16] <Jordan_U> Ant13: There you installed Ubuntu in a partition closer to the beginning of the drive than Windows, which is not done by the automatic partitioner. 1:It looks like it changed the partition number for Windows which Windows doesn't handle very well 2: It means that Windows (rather than Ubuntu) will be vulnerable to BIOS bugs where the BIOS can't properly handle large drives.
[06:16] <sacarlson> Ant13: I think what it might be is that windows likes to be in the first partition,  in your case you have it installed at sda2.  you would think it should work but in the future I would try install it in sda1 and see if you have better luck
[06:17] <Ant13b> Jordan_U, Sacarlson : that was one of my tries, i often install win in sda1 and ubuntu in sda2-3 sorry if that was incorrect, it was by the time i asked on ubuntu forums
[06:18] <Ant13b> Jordan_U : booting from windows dvd and using bootrec /fixboot and chkdsk fixes it (at times)
[06:18] <crlcan81> gaaah
[06:18] <crlcan81> what the flying..
[06:19] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: If possible, to make things easier to debug, could you do a standard Windows install (all defaults) and a standard Ubuntu install (using automatic partititioning but obviously choosing to keep Windows)?
[06:20] <weia> Ant13: when you install ubuntu it should let you choose between a) install grub on mbr (like /dev/sda) b) install grub on linux partition (like /dev/sda2). if you pick b) you can later use any multibooting mbr code to chainload sda2. if you pick a) you might be stuck with grub
[06:20] <AcrimoniousGoron> I installed the ubuntu studio package into ubuntu 10.10 and when I open fonrforge it opens in a really tiny window. even if i maximize it the folders look like the size they would be on a 2" screen
[06:21] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: depends, are you asking me if i could do it generally (then yes) or asking me to do it right now?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: I'm hoping that you could do it now or some time later and I could follow up via email or on a bug report. If there is a bug I'm going to do what I can to find it and get it fixed.
[06:22] <panfist> i could boot the 10.10 livecd with 'nomodeset' boot option, but now that i've installed it and tried to boot of the disk, it hangs right after "checking battery status"
[06:22] <Ant13b> weia: tried both of them
[06:22] <Ant13b> weia: even though its rather odd that prior to 9.10 it used to work (9.10 added grub2)
[06:23] <AcrimoniousGoron> I installed the ubuntu studio package into ubuntu 10.10 and when I open fonrforge it opens in a really tiny window. even if i maximize it the folders look like the size they would be on a 2" screen
[06:23] <sacarlson> Ant13b: I don't see anything from the bootscript that would make it not work.  I'm sure you hold shift and try the windows boot and that must be where you see the error
[06:23] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: bootrec /fixboot is needed when the beginning of your Windows system partition is changed (which shouldn't happen with a default Ubuntu install).
[06:23] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: it would take a while but yes i may do, windows 7 and ubuntu 10.10 would be fine? and what kind of informations would you need? (just to know what to get)
[06:24] <Ant13b> sacarlson: im rather ignorant about windows, didnt even know holding shift would do anything so i never did
[06:25] <sacarlson> Ant13b: holding shift will get you control of the grub2 loader so you can choose what you want to boot
[06:25] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Windows 7 would be ideal. The output of boot info script would include everything I can think of.
[06:25] <weia> Ant13b: you picked b) and it broke windows?
[06:25] <v_v> j #debian
[06:25] <Ant13b> sacarlson: ok got it , its from grub, thought you meant once booted windows, in that case i choose win from there and it crashes
[06:25] <Ant13b> weia: both did
[06:25] <mean> what is lo that ifconfig display?
[06:26] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: sure, getting what i need, do i have to use desktop cd or would alternate be the same (i prefer using alternate due to graphic card issues but if you say desktop ill go for it
[06:27] <brightspark> mean: loopback
[06:27] <weia> Ant13b: after you pick b) and you make the windows partition the "active" partition again, it should boot unharmed (no grub screen showing)
[06:27] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: it just came to my mind, if i remove ubuntu or just /fixmbr everything will work normally, may just be a useless info
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: The alternate install would be fine.
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: That last bit of information is very useful.
[06:27] <Ant13b> weia: active?
[06:28] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: what one? the fixmbr thing i just told you?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Yes.
[06:28] <weia> Ant13b: any partition editor lets you designate one of the four primary mbr partitions as "active"
[06:28] <Ant13b> weia: oh yes right, i got you, doesnt work though
[06:28] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: What happens if you don't remove the Ubuntu partition but just run fixmbr?
[06:29] <Guest48619> ke hongo
[06:29] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: grub wont show
[06:29] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: But Windows does boot then?
[06:29] <panfist> if i have an installation of 32 bit ubuntu is there a way to mark all of my packages so i can install them in a new 64 bit installation?
[06:30] <mean> brightspark, i knew it short for loopback,but what does it use?
[06:30] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: flawlessly not even slown up as you would expect from it
[06:30] <Ant13b> *slown down
[06:30] <mean> i couldnt google right now...
[06:31] <Guest48619> why
[06:31] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Ok, can you get the machine in this state fairly easily?
[06:31] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: pardon?
[06:31] <sacarlson> Ant13b: I am assuming that ubuntu does boot ok am I wrong?
[06:32] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Can you get things setup so that the Ubuntu partition is still there but you have run fixboot /mbr so that Windows just boots?
[06:32] <Ant13b> sacarlson: depends where we were, install windows then install ubuntu and use ubuntu? yes ubuntu has no problems at all, even after i /fixboot it boots ok works ok no problems, if i fixmbr grub doesnt show
[06:32] <weia> Ant13b: 1) zero out first 1mb of disk; 2) install windows in sda1; 3) install ubuntu in sda2, careful to install grub to sda2 (not sda); 4) make sda1 the active partition; 5) no grub menu shows, the computer boots right into windows, and it's broken?? i don't believe it
[06:32] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: are you asking me to do it right now? partition table is a lil messed but things are actually that way (i needed windows to update my phone so i had to /fixmbr)
[06:33] <Ant13b> weia: if i do it that way grub shows but if i choose windows it will crash
[06:33] <victorhugo289> hello
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Great. Can you burn a Super GRUB2 Disk CD or install grub to a flash drive for some testing?
[06:34] <brightspark> mean: I'm not a big network techie but from what I understand it lets the computer recieve messages it sends itself, which is more secure than some other methods.
[06:34] <victorhugo289> guys, I have a problem, I need to resize a FAT-32 partition, I want to grow it bigger
[06:34] <sacarlson> Ant13b: and you never changed to sequence or point your bios to boot from something other than sda ?
[06:34] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: if you are goin to ask me to install grub, wouldnt the alternate ubuntu cd be the same? (im just guessing)
[06:34] <victorhugo289> But what I need to know is...
[06:34] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: No, it uses isolinux.
[06:35] <Ant13b> sacarlson: bios can boot either from cd or hd or usb, i cant change it
[06:35] <victorhugo289> It is currently 34.5 Gigabyte long, I need to grow it to about 50
[06:35] <victorhugo289> But I'm not sure if the block size will be afected!!
[06:35] <mean> brightspark, thx
[06:35] <victorhugo289> Does Fat-32 use the same block size for 50 GB as it does for 34.5????
[06:35] <sacarlson> Ant13b: oh and did you install with usb flash disk?
[06:36] <victorhugo289> Does Fat-32 use the same block size for 50 GB as it does for 34.5????
[06:36] <Ant13b> Jordan_U : sorry im lost, im out of burners actually may you explain t a lil further? (never used supergrub2)
[06:36] <Ant13b> sacarlson: all from dvd/cd to hd
[06:36] <brightspark> mean: no problem at all
[06:36] <misbach_> askum ubuntuers
[06:36] <victorhugo289> I'm afraid it could expand the block size and destroy my files.
[06:37] <Jyoti> how do i create vxfs filesystem on my system? mkfs -t vxfs... what package do I need to install?
[06:37] <nixjr> how do i output the "load average" like in top, but only the load average, none of that other stuff?
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: What I would like to do is now that you're in a configuration where you know that the Windows side of things is setup correctly, to try booting Windows from grub (without installing grub to the internal hard drive, instead installing it to a CD/USB drive).
[06:37] <brightspark> victorhugo289: anytime you fiddle with partitions, you ought to back stuff up.
[06:38] <mykal> hi all. i know this might not be the place, but getting ubuntu to stream to xbax via ushare. anyone here happen to have it working???
[06:38] <weia> Ant13b: oh well. then something on the linux side _insists_ on overwriting the mbr bootcode. you could inspect snapshots of the mbr at various points to catch the violator.
[06:38] <overrider> I am having trouble with my 10.04 samba installation. How can i completely remove it, then reinstall it? apt-get purge does not do it, because it leaves /etc/samba and other files in place. Manually removing those also bad, because then a reinstall will not recreate those default files. What gives? Thanks
[06:38] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: probably it doesnt matter, but to fetch something from my old ubuntu install i used wubi, gone from win bootloader to grub and booted into linux (supposed to work and so it did) would it be the same if instead of choosing linux from there id choose linux (i have wubi installed as app)
[06:39] <brightspark> victorhugo289: but I have shrunk and moved FAT32 partitions without problems.  (never grown one, sorry)
[06:39] <victorhugo289> I know @brightspark, and I'm prepared for the worst, but I've been very lucky so far.
[06:39] <Ant13b> weia: grub2 bullying windows lol
[06:39] <victorhugo289> Grow and shrink without problems???
[06:39] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Yes, working with Wubi's grub will do just fine.
[06:39] <victorhugo289> oh thanks
[06:39] <victorhugo289> That sounds like what I need to hear
[06:40] <dustin> anyone got time to do some linux 1 on 1 with me i could really use someone's help/maybe connect and do some desktop help if anyone has the time id really be forever in a person's debt
[06:40] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: If you press 'c' at the grub menu you will get to the grub shell. Can you be at the grub shell and on IRC (with another machine) at the same time?
[06:40] <mean> there are two kernel in my unbuntu  ,but it  start with 2.6.32.24 as default,how could i switch to 2.6.32.27?
[06:40] <mykal> what you need dustin, just a quick howto?
[06:41] <Ant13> Jordan_U: disconnected again, mind repeating if you replied?
[06:42] <mykal> ok, so no xbox streamers here. i think the big issue is that xbox creates a key that needs to go into the upnp somewhere. any ideas
[06:42] <brightspark> mean: do you have startup-manager in you system/admin menu?
[06:43] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Yes, working with Wubi's grub will do just fine.
[06:43] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: If you press 'c' at the grub menu you will get to the grub shell. Can you be at the grub shell and on IRC (with another machine) at the same time?
[06:43] <Ant13> Jordan_U: fantastic, let me fetch the laptop
[06:43] <Ant13> Jordan_U: yes, actually i have alot of pc available lol
[06:44] <Ant13> Jordan_U: again, if i disconnect its surely my isp playing with me lol
[06:44] <dustin> so anyone know alot about mudlibs thats on right now ?
[06:44] <weia> Ant13b: looks like grub2's chainloading into windows from the grub menu is plainly broken. i think windows has a fixmbr or so, and i think you can get windows into shape so it lets you choose between windows and grub at boot.
[06:44] <mean> brightspark, i didnt find it . is it the default software?
[06:44] <schock> any args for/against 'Activate Serial ATA RAID device' on fresh 10.10 install?
[06:45] <Ant13> weia: that wouldnt be secure though
[06:45] <weia> Ant13: what kind of security?
[06:45] <brightspark> mean: I honestly don't recall perfectly, but I believe it was something I got out of synaptic.
[06:46] <Ant13> weia: you have to forgive me im a lil sleepy, but i think you meant using windows bootloader to load linux, wouldnt that be risky if windows got compromised?
[06:47] <Ant13> Jordan_U: ok im there, turn pc on, choose ubuntu from windows loader (wubi) then it gets me to grub and i choose windows again?
[06:47] <brightspark> mean: the package is called startupmanager (without a hyphen).  You could probably apt-get it if you choose.
[06:47] <dustin> anyone know how to run a mudblib deal?
[06:47] <Jordan_U> Ant13: That's the easiest test, yes.
[06:47] <Ant13> Jordan_U: lol it brins me back to win loader
[06:47] <cosmo> I know in win7 I can link folders to my library folders like video or music, can I do the same in ubuntu and if so how?
[06:47] <Ant13> *brings
[06:48] <Jordan_U> Ant13: That's expected, all grub ever does is chainload the Windows bootloader.
[06:48] <Ant13> Jordan_U: and it restarts
[06:48] <Ant13> Jordan_U: it just restarted after win logo
[06:48] <weia> Ant13: yes, that's what i meant. if windows is compromised, then so is your linux partition if the malware author wants that. the question which bootloader is loading which is a sham.
[06:49] <Ant13> weia: i dont get the last statement "the question which bootloader is loading which is a sham."
[06:49] <mean> brightspark, it works ,thx a lot:)
[06:49] <weia> Ant13: it means it has nothing to do with security
[06:50] <larious> Anybody can help me with my huawei USB modem intalling on ubuntu 10.04 tls.... please brothers i need to go onine with my modem
[06:50] <Jordan_U> Ant13: If Windows is compromised then it can write to anywhere on the drive, so you can't completely trust even your Ubuntu partition at that point.
[06:50] <Ant13> weia: oh
[06:50] <larious>  Anybody can help me with my huawei USB modem intalling on ubuntu 10.04 tls.... please brothers i need to go onine with my modem
[06:50] <Ant13> Jordan_U: thats what i meant lol
[06:50] <brightspark> mean: no problem.  I hope it continues to work well.
[06:51] <larious>  Anybody can help me with my huawei USB modem intalling on ubuntu 10.04 tls.... please brothers i need to go onine with my modem
[06:51] <Ant13> Jordan_U: by the way i just retried, still goes from win loader to grub, again to win loader and then nowhere
[06:51] <root__> hi this is needlez can the person who linked me to that page previously relink me to it?? forgot to save it
[06:51] <larious>  Anybody can help me with my huawei USB modem intalling on ubuntu 10.04 tls.... please brothers i need to go onine with my modem
[06:51] <danial> salam
[06:52] <Ant13> larious: branded key?
[06:52] <larious> danaial: Asalamu Aleku brother
[06:52] <Ant13> Jordan_U: after that restart booting straight from windows works
[06:52] <larious> Ant13; EC226
[06:52] <brightspark> needlez: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1024263
[06:53] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Do you have a flash drive handy?
[06:53] <gua> is there a place that outlines the differences between the desktop 10.04.1 and 10.04.2?
[06:53] <dustin> anyone got any ideas?
[06:53] <dustin> okay here's the deal folks, i got this mudlib file in the home/folder and i need to run it through the terminal but i got no idea how to run a program from there anyone spare some time on this issue who is fluenant in linux?
[06:53] <larious> Ant13; EC226
[06:53] <Ant13> Jordan_U: no, not ready, would have t backup and format
[06:53] <larious> Ant13: EC226
[06:53] <Ant13> larious: have you tried from network manager to go on mobile connection after key has been plugged for 5 minutes?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> gua: You can look at the changelogs of all of the packages. Point releases are just releases containing the most recent updates to that point,
[06:54] <brightspark> dustin: if you right-click the file, is it marked as executable under permissions?
[06:54] <Ant13> Jordan_U : want me to?
[06:54] <gua> Jordan_U: hmm. just it'd be nice to see what the big changes are so i know if it's worth downloading for what i want to do with it that day
[06:54] <larious> Ant13: Yah but it request for APN which my modem can find automatically by win xp
[06:55] <Ant13> larious: for apn informations you should either contact your provider or just take a look at their site, what operator are you with?
[06:56] <weia> Ant13: in conclusion.  boot -> windows -> grub -> linux -> ok.  boot -> windows -> windows -> ok.  boot -> grub -> windows -> no no!
[06:56] <larious> Multilinks telecom Blue broadband
[06:56] <larious> Ant13:  Multilinks telecom Blue broadband
[06:56] <Ant13> weia: also boot -> windows -> grub -> windows -> windows -> crash
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Ant13: There is only one bug in grub that I can remember that has symptoms like this (though it was never actually triggered in normal use and I don't see why it would be triggered now). Since it's been fixed in grub 1.99 rc1 I was hoping you could test grub 1.99 rc1 somehow.
[06:57] <weia> Ant13: yeah, don't let grub get in the way
[06:57] <larious> anybody from Nigeria
[06:57] <Ant13> larious: you should contact them or copy the apn from windwos
[06:58] <nbros652> Anybody out there... I have an server set up with webmin/usermin. I also have samba shares set up. Here's the problem. When I change the password for a user from the "Users and groups" page, I can access samba folders with the local user accounts. When I change the passwords from usermin, I am no longer able to access the samba shares. Any idea why?
[06:58] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You wouldn't need to reformat the flash drive to install grub on it. grub2 supports pretty much every filesystem under the sun.
[06:58] <Ant13> Jordan_U: its available for natty, i may download it and install on maverick
[06:58] <Ant13> Jordan_U: i would need to format it to remove the stuff i have on it lol
[06:59] <nbros652> Also, the password hashes are quite different between the two tools.
[06:59] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Why would you need to remove anything from it?
[06:59] <Metaxa> anyone here have experience with GMABooster?
[06:59] <larious> Ant13: How do I copy from window?
[06:59] <Ant13> Jordan_U: from the key? its full
[06:59] <zruty> On xubuntu, can I do everything I can do on ubuntu, too?
[06:59] <mean> brightspark, i used startupmanage to switch,and restart but it ditnt work
[06:59] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You need less than 5 meg of free space for grub.
[06:59] <Ant13> larious: in the key you re supposed to find an autoconfigurationblabla file, install it , go on key's control panel and get infos about apn, i suggest though to call your operator
[06:59] <joeb_> can you watch netflix on ubuntu
[07:00] <Ant13> Jordan_U: oh yes right didnt think of that
[07:00] <Ant13> Jordan_U: so am i going with usb key or installing it from maverick?
[07:00] <mean> brightspark, it still started without option...
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Ant13: While it's normally not a good idea to use packages from one release (especially a development one) on another, I know that the grub-pc and grub-common packages from natty are safe to install in maverick.
[07:01] <Ant13> Jordan_U: in this case, where should i install it? in wubi or in "native" ubuntu?
[07:01] <Metaxa> joeb_:You'll need to run virtualBox and have windows installed due to Silverlight only being available on mac and windows
[07:01] <larious> Ant13: Please you will need to guide me on how to copy that
[07:01] <joeb_> Metaxa- have you tried it ? does it work ?
[07:02] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Native Ubuntu. There are enough packaging issues with Wubi and grub that I wouldn't risk installing the newer grub packages within Wubi.
[07:02] <Ant13> larious: since i'm not with your operator it would be hard for me , since most of those configurators are proprietary and vary from operator to operator, you should ask their technical support for more details, unless someone gets u to automatically find it
[07:03] <Metaxa> joeb_: Yes, Oracle VirtualBox, Install windows in that and run firefox, works just fine on a decent machine
[07:03] <danielpaciran> somebody indonesia...?
[07:03] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Note that just updating the grub-pc package triggers grub-install to be run on whatever install devices are configured.
[07:03] <Ant13>  Jordan_U: oh yes right, if i install grub it should write to mbr and boot partition and make things like i just formatted, thats what we want right?
[07:03] <Diverdude> ahhhhhhhhhh i love the smell of napalm in the morning.... smells like victory!
[07:04] <joeb_> Diverdude- ?
[07:04] <syn-ack> Diverdude, Great movie, but lets try to keep it on topic, please.
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Yes, that would work fine. I wouldn't say it's just like you formatted though.
[07:04] <Metaxa> joeb_: I'm running a 420@1.6 mhz celeron mobile with 2.5 gb ram, works just fine on low level dsl
[07:05] <syn-ack> joeb_, he made a reference to Apocalypse Now.
[07:05] <joeb_> :P
[07:05] <danielpaciran> fROM INDONES'IA???????????????
[07:05] <joeb_> Metaxa- i dual boot windows i will just watch it in windows
[07:06] <devkhadka> how to get current time stamp
[07:06] <Diverdude> syn-ack, yep, you guessed it :D
[07:06] <Metaxa> joeb_: or you could do that
[07:06] <danielpaciran> dont say windows please
[07:06] <devkhadka> current  timestamp in bash script
[07:06] <Jordan_U> !indonesia | danielpaciran
[07:06] <weia> Jordan_U: windows could always try to detect the presence of grub in the load chain and refuse to work. that's an unfixable situation. whatever grub's authors are doing to fix the user experience, the next windows live update can break it again.
[07:07] <Metaxa> joeb_: I run dual monitors off this laptop, have virtual box on one and my normal ubuntu on the other
[07:07] <Gryllida> how do I install mono 2.8 ? latest one in the repo is 2.6.7 only
[07:07] <syn-ack> Gryllida, you can either try looking for a development PPA or you'd probably have to grab the source from the mono project.
[07:08] <cosmo> I know in win7 I can link folders to my library folders without copying the files to it so it is easy to access media from various folders and drives like video or music, can I do the same in ubuntu and if so how?
[07:08] <Gryllida> syn-ack, I didn't find a ppa
[07:08] <Jordan_U> weia: I've never heard of Windows overwriting the MBR on upgrades (though Photoshop and other software with idiotic DRM is known to write to the boot track all the time). And I've seen no evidence that Windows has overwritten ant13's mbr (except when he told it to) so I don't see how that's relevant.
[07:08] <Gryllida> cosmo, nautilus, add to bookmark
[07:08] <syn-ack> Gryllida, you'll probably have to grab the source, deps and headers and compile it yourself then
[07:09] <Diverdude> ppa=personal what? archieve ?
[07:09] <syn-ack> Personal Package Archive.
[07:09] <Diverdude> oh yes ofc
[07:09] <cosmo> Gryllida, thanks
[07:09] <Gryllida> sure
[07:10] <mean> I couldnt use startupmanage to switch kernel ,who can help me out?
[07:10] <brightspark> mean:   Hm, that's not the intended behavior.  you can try renaming files in /etc/grub.d until they are in alphanumeric order matching the order you want to see in GRUB
[07:10] <Prinler> Anyone have any experience with Mediatomb? When i click on my media in windows all it does is send me the file. I want it to stream not just "host" files....
[07:10] <weia> Jordan_U: we're not talking about someone overwriting the mbr. it's about windows refusing to boot (intentionally or not) if grub was in the load chain.
[07:11] <mean> brightspark, i thought you have gone
[07:11] <Jordan_U> weia: Then I don't see what Windows Live has to do with anything.
[07:11] <mean> brightspark, i try it now
[07:11] <brightspark> mean: sorry wrong directory!  don't fiddle with that, I'll get the right one in a minute
[07:12] <weia> Jordan_U: why not? you suggested to get a new version of grub to fix this. i said don't ever let grub get into the load chain if you intend to boot windows. you're not getting what Windows Live has to do with that?
[07:12] <mean> brightspark,  in /boot/grub ?
[07:12] <mean> brightspark,  grub.cfg?
[07:13] <Jordan_U> weia: If this is the bug that I am thinking about then upgrading will be a permanent fix.
[07:13] <weia> Jordan_U: upgrading _what_? grub? it can be _outpaced_ by the next Windows Live update. still don't get it?
[07:15] <brightspark> mean: not quite, your changes will be overwritten if you edit that.
[07:15] <Jordan_U> weia: Yes, update grub. This is a bug in grub that has affected all versions of Windows since Vista, it's just that it's a bug in features that are never used in normal situations (hence why it has lasted so long, it affected almost no one).
[07:16] <Jordan_U> weia: Features of grub that is.
[07:16] <brightspark> mean: if you edit /etc/default/grub you can change the starting position of the cursor
[07:16] <abe_> Hi guys, Does anyone knows what the term lkstbishnis stand for ? they say it has something to do with computer parts
[07:16] <schock> hi all. so i have a fresh install of 10.10 on vpcz. Now a lot of forums recommend using natty kernel to solve various driver problems. what is the easiest way to install this?
[07:17] <Jordan_U> !ot | abe_
[07:17] <larious> anybody from nigeria here using linux
[07:19] <weia> Jordan_U: i'm getting your point now. thanks for explaining.
[07:19] <Jordan_U> weia: You're welcome.
[07:21] <cosmo> nope that didnt do it, nautilus trys to add the whole drive, I have video, audio and documents stored in folders on other drives in catagories and sub-catagories in win 7 I could just add them to library folders in explorer without having to copy them to the main drive this made accessing them convient and I was hoping to do the same in ubuntu but not sure how (would like to have links to them in the home folder where it already has catagories
[07:21] <cosmo> like documents, music, video, etc.)
[07:21] <Ant13> back
[07:22] <brightspark> mean: Okay, so by changing the value of GRUB_DEFAULT, you can make the cursor start in a different position.  0 for the top, 1 for the next, and so forth.
[07:22] <Ant13> erm did Jordan_ U leave?
[07:23] <brightspark> mean: then run update-grub
[07:23] <Jordan_U> Ant13: No.
[07:23] <Ant13> Jordan_U: lol what the heck you dont show up in the list, o well empathy's misteries
[07:23] <Ant13> Jordan_U: connection went so instead of taking more of your time i went straight to get grub
[07:24] <XChats> good day, any idea how to connect twitter from terminl? thnaks
[07:24] <Ant13> Jordan_U: quick dirty way, changing apt sources
[07:24] <Ant13> Jordan_U: now  a debconf window asks if i want to chainload from menu.list or use a linux command line
[07:25] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Ok. Select "yes" to chainloading from menu.lst. That dialog is only supposed to come up when you are upgrading from grub legacy to grub2.
[07:25] <rajvi> hello anyone using Quicken 2011 on 10.10
[07:25] <Ant13> Jordan_U: may be the case, as i said before i tried using grub legacy too, would that compromise what we re doing?
[07:25] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You *will* need to run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy" before rebooting though.
[07:26] <Jordan_U> Ant13: No, it doesn't hurt anything.
[07:26] <Ant13> Jordan_U: doing it
[07:26] <Ant13> Jordan_U: its now installing, gladly wont require internet again, or im jumping out of the window lol
[07:27] <rajvi> Hello all anyone using Quicken 2011 on 10.10 returns me a com error  it crashes :(
[07:27] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Make sure that your drive is selected as an install device, and *no* partitions are selected (use space bar to check / uncheck a device in the list).
[07:27] <Ant13> Jordan_U: pardon?
[07:27] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You should get to a dialog asking where grub should be installed when you run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy".
[07:28] <larious> Ant13: is it possible to get the apn by myself cos here they dont know much about linux or apn stuff
[07:28] <rajvi> Quicken on 10.10 ??
[07:28] <Ant13> larious: apn doesnt depend on system
[07:29] <Ant13> Jordan_U: got it, no devices selected, go on?
[07:29] <Ant13> Jordan_U: nevermind lol
[07:29] <Ant13> Jordan_U: i can choose sda or sda3, should i go sda?
[07:29] <luckymurali> hi all
[07:29] <larious> Ant13: I know but they believe that I want to steal from there network through the apn
[07:29] <Jordan_U> Ant13: sda.
[07:29] <luckymurali> where can i check for OS layout and configuration??
[07:30] <rajvi> Is Quicken 2011 running on 10.10 successfully via WINE ??
[07:30] <Jordan_U> luckymurali: Layout and configuration of what specifically?
[07:30] <Diverdude> some update that has caused that volume up/down buttons no longer works. This is the case both on my lenovo T61p laptop (running 10.04) and my mediacenter with wireless keyboard connected (running 10.10). Does anybody else have the same problem?
[07:30] <Jordan_U> !appdb | rajvi
[07:30] <Ant13> larious: its impossible to do so lol
[07:31] <Ant13> Jordan_U: t said grub been removed but configuration files were preserved, should i delete them?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> Ant13: It's up to you. Doesn't matter much either way.
[07:31] <rajvi> thanks
[07:31] <Jordan_U> rajvi: You're welcome.
[07:31] <Ant13> Jordan_U: next time they wont be there anyway so no matter, should i restart now?
[07:32] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Yes.
[07:32] <Guest84683> Can someone help me get a 2-monitor set up working?
[07:32] <Breach> Just installed Ubuntu 10.10 desktop on an Acer Aspire One. I havent used linux in ages, what is the best antivirus app?
[07:33] <Ant13> Jordan_U: did they put back the splashimages? O_O
[07:33] <Metaxa> Drak2: Desktop or laptop
[07:33] <Jordan_U> !virus | Breach
[07:33] <Breach> ahh.. ok
[07:33] <Dark2> Desktop
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Ant13: What do you mean?
[07:33] <larious> Ant13: I try to install the dashboard of the network and it through wine but wine cant install FILES
[07:33] <admin0> hi .. I can do fdisk -l /dev/sda and see my windows partitions, but when I try to mount, it says /dev/sda1 does not exisit.. what is the correct syntax for makedev ?
[07:33] <Ant13> Jordan_U: the grub window actually has a colour, used to be white and black
[07:34] <Ant13> Jordan_U: anyways i booted into ubuntu, what should i do now? (restarted and all)
[07:34] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Try booting Windows.
[07:34] <Metaxa> Drak2: Are you using a video card with 2 outputs?
[07:34] <Ant13> Jordan_U: crossing my fingers
[07:34] <larious> Ant13: Wine cant install win DLL and Win information files
[07:35] <Ant13> larious: im sorry, i dont know much of it, its supposed to work without anything, you should retry with your operator
[07:35] <larious> ok
[07:35] <Dark2> Metaxa: Yes, it has 2 DVI outputs. Also, please spell my name correctly so it notifies me
[07:35] <XChats> good day, any idea how to connect twitter from terminl? thnaks
[07:35] <larious> I will need to take my fucking desktop to there office
[07:35] <Ant13> Jordan_U: rebooted (crash again)
[07:36] <Metaxa> Dark2: With both monitors connected and turned on, have you gone to System-->Preferences-->Monitors and chosen to detect monitors?
[07:37] <Dark2> Yes
[07:37] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Odd. Please file a bug report in the upstream grub bug tracker. If at all possible reproduce the bug with a simpler setup as explaining your current setup properly will distract from the actual problem at hand.
[07:37] <Metaxa> Dark2: What Model card do you have?
[07:37] <iiicyg> XChats, bitlebee + weechat.
[07:37] <Ant13> Jordan_U: actually i may have an idea
[07:37] <Dark2> ATI HD5850
[07:37] <Ant13> Jordan_U: do you happen to know if grub legacy works on aptio bios? (uefi)
[07:38] <XChats> iiicyg: ok ill try to install it now , thanks
[07:38] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Grub legacy does not work with uefi.
[07:38] <Ant13> Jordan_U: owned lol
[07:38] <iiicyg> XChats, also there are special terminal twitter clients.
[07:38] <Ant13> Jordan_U: i never had to reconfigure grub legacy, what should i do after i installed it? (on this pc legacy used to work)
[07:39] <iiicyg> XChats, but i don't like there.
[07:39] <XChats> iiicyg what would be the best you can recommends?
[07:40] <iiicyg> XChats, weechat + bitlebee daemon. (http://wiki.bitlbee.org/HowtoTwitter)
[07:40] <XChats> iiicyg: ok, thank you very much
[07:41] <iiicyg> You are welcome.
[07:41] <cosmo> I tried bookmarks in nautilus and it tries to add the whole drive, I have video, audio and documents stored in folders on other drives in categories and sub-categories in win 7 I could just add them to library folders in explorer without having to copy them to the main drive this made accessing them convenient and I was hoping to do the same in ubuntu but not sure how (would like to have links to them in the home folder where it already has cat
[07:41] <cosmo> egories like documents, music, video, etc.) any ideas or suggestions?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Ant13: I need to get some sleep so I don't really have time to walk you through it tonight.
[07:42] <Ant13> Jordan_U: i have one more question, which doesnt really matter now, have you ever dualbooted windows and ubuntu 9.10+?
[07:42] <Ant13> Jordan_U: oh sure its no problem, i'd care to say thanks or all the time u spent with me trying to fix it
[07:43] <Ant13> *i'd like
[07:43] <DSx> What's a ubuntu?
[07:43] <iiicyg> kk
[07:43] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Yes I have. Your experience is very abnormal.
[07:43] <DSx> Guise help me.
[07:43] <DSx> What's a ubuntu
[07:43] <DSx> Btw Has anyone heard about japan
[07:43] <Ant13> Jordan_U: lol so you think on a dell with aptio bios it would dual boot fine? (actually its a compaq)
[07:43] <DSx> Hope those guys are okay.
[07:43] <DSx> I need someone to make my nikes.
[07:43] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You're welcome. The best thanks though would be a good bug report :)
[07:43] <Ant13> Jordan_U: *actually its a compaq i tried in
[07:44] <iiicyg> Wow.
[07:44] <Ant13> Jordan_U: sure, if you could give me some hint what details i should give them i will, launchpad or somewhere else?
[07:45] <Ant13> Jordan_U: bootinfoscript // pc model // pc bios model would be enough?
[07:46] <Jordan_U> Ant13: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=grub . Those things plus an explanation that running *only* fixboot /mbr (or whatever the command is for restoring the mbr with Windows 7) allows Windows to boot successfully.
[07:47] <Diverdude> some update that has caused that volume up/down buttons no longer works. This is the case both on my lenovo T61p laptop (running 10.04) and my mediacenter with wireless keyboard connected (running 10.10). Does anybody else have the same problem?
[07:47] <Ant13> Jordan_U: copied that, could you make a guess about that thing i asked before? (if a dell with aptio uefi would boot fine with 7 + default 10.10 install)
[07:47] <Ant13> Jordan_U: actually i use phoenix bios lol
[07:48] <Jordan_U> Ant13: So what I would do is run boot info script now, run fixboot /mbr and nothing else, run boot info script again, confirm that you can now boot Windows successfully, and post both boot info script outputs with an explanation that that's what you did.
[07:49] <Ant13> Jordan_U: for how long it will take i think it would be better make things clean, wipe out the hd and do as you just said, so they wont find mess
[07:49] <jiltdil> how to change my ip through command line?
[07:49] <Jordan_U> Ant13: I would stay away from [U]EFI at the moment, even if you get grub-efi working you'll likely have problems with graphics drivers in linux. And there isn't really much of an advantage to [U]EFI over BIOS.
[07:50] <phoenixsampras> my hibernation and suspend is broken
[07:50] <luckymurali> Jordan_U, for OS
[07:50] <aureianimus> can anyone tell me this: if i want to create a persistent usb-ubuntu, i need to specify the size of the persistent file. Is that file just for OS-settings or can i also save files in there?
[07:50] <Ant13> Jordan_U: i know that but my new laptop uses uefi and id like to put ubuntu into it (just windows on a pc would make me never use it lol)
[07:50] <luckymurali> I am really not able to understand what is meant by OS layout and configuration so I am asking here
[07:51] <jiltdil>  how to change my ip through command line?
[07:51] <Ant13> Jordan_U: if it helps is certified ubuntu hardware, dell vostro 3700
[07:52] <phoenixsampras> jiltdil: ifconfig eth0 10.0.500.1 netmask 255.255.253.5
[07:53] <Jordan_U> Ant13: While I've installed grub-efi before I've never tested what the Ubuntu installer does when installing to an EFI based system. Make sure you grab the 64 bit Ubuntu CD and the worst that can happen is that it doesn't install grub-efi automatically and you'll have to ask for help on that from #grub. (Just trying to clarify that installing grub-pc on a system with EFI firmware will not hurt anything).
[07:54] <Ant13> Jordan_U: so i cant use a 32 bit version? :O
[07:55] <Jordan_U> Ant13: No, with EFI the Firmware and the OS need to be the same architecture (unless you do really ugly hacks in the kernel like Apple does in XNU but is not likely to be accepted in Linux).
[07:55] <Jordan_U> Ant13: So if it
[07:56] <Ant13> Jordan_U: great ....... -.-  oh well better than nothing, so worst thing that may happen is linux not working? it shouldnt kill the pc right?
[07:56] <Jordan_U> Ant13: ... So if it's 64 bit firmware (which it almost certainly is) you'll need to install 64 bit Ubuntu.
[07:56] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Correct.
[07:57] <Xunie`> During the installation, I selected that I wanted an encrypted home partition.
[07:57] <Ant13> Jordan_U: last question, more of a personal one, you actually use windows?
[07:57] <Jordan_U> Ant13: No.
[07:57] <Ant13> Jordan_U: lol ok nevermind, this isnt related to ubuntu, just to windows ESD os i wont bother here
[07:58] <Ant13> Jordan_U: thank you again for all your time and all the help you gave me, as soon as i wake up abit im going to wipe the hd and file a bug report, hoping other compaq cq60 415sl owners wont have to use just 1 system
[07:58] <Ant13> Jordan_U good night when you go (i think you said you were going soon) and thanks again
[07:58] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You're welcome.
[08:00] <Ant13> Jordan_U: its time for me to get ready, have a nice night/day
[08:01] <duepi> Hey guys, I was wondering how I get the firefox pop-up browser to show thumbnails?
[08:01] <duepi> Please?!
[08:02] <duepi> Please?
[08:02] <duepi> Anyone?
[08:03] <phoenixsampras> duepi: wha thappende?
 Hey guys, I was wondering how I get the firefox pop-up browser to show thumbnails?
[08:04] <duepi> I mean when I click 'browse' for an image in an image-upload site, or something, you know?
[08:04] <duepi> I want to be able to see the thumbnails of the images
[08:04] <phoenixsampras> duepi: what ff version?
[08:04] <duepi> how do I tell?
[08:04] <duepi> err, sec
[08:05] <duepi> 3.5 or 3.6
[08:05] <duepi> yes, 3.6.13
[08:05] <phoenixsampras> duepi: interesting, i didnt know you can see thumnails via ff
[08:06] <duepi> phoenixsampras: can you? I want to be able to..
[08:06] <duepi> phoenixsampras: If you can't that's a real bugger!
[08:06] <iiicyg> I can't understand wat did he mean.
[08:06] <Starminn> To install GNOME Shell, do I simply run << sudo apt-get install gnome-shell >> and << gnome-shell --replace >>?
[08:07] <phoenixsampras> duepi: i cant
[08:07] <phoenixsampras> duepi: seems you have a very special version
[08:07] <duepi> phoenixsampras: I *want* to, and I can't, you understand?
[08:07] <phoenixsampras> duepi: no i dont understand, seems you are drunk
[08:08] <duepi> phoenixsampras: Are you fucking retarded?
[08:08] <duepi> I want the pop-up file browser to show thumbnaild
[08:08] <duepi> thumbnails
[08:08] <phoenixsampras> duepi: what are you smoking buddy?
[08:08] <duepi> at the moment, it doesn't
[08:08] <duepi> phoenixsampras: your mothers ass
[08:08] <StepNjump>  Am I the only one who keeps having to deal with my OpenOffice Writer that keeps crashing?
[08:08] <iiicyg> duepi, russian?
[08:08] <duepi> StepNjump: No, mine does too
[08:08] <phoenixsampras> duepi: why dont you ask firefox a refund?
[08:08] <duepi> StepNjump: just run word in WINE, tbqh
[08:09] <duepi> phoenixsampras: I'm asking for help, champ
[08:09] <duepi> phoenixsampras: Don't get your knickers in a knot
[08:09] <StepNjump> Word? MS word?
[08:09] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi i just runned an update and itz frozen at "mysql" i tried "ctrl+c" to abort it but therez no way, itz just stuck there, what can i do? thanks (gnome on ubuntu 10.10)
[08:09] <duepi> StepNjump: Yes
[08:09] <StepNjump> I hate word...
[08:09] <duepi> StepNjump: Open Office is terrible
[08:09] <phoenixsampras> !ops
[08:09] <StepNjump> Duepi did you find out what causes that problem?
[08:09] <duepi> StepNjump: Nope.
[08:09] <duepi> StepNjump: Bad programming?
[08:10] <StepNjump> duepi what kind of ram do you have?
[08:10] <duepi> StepNjump: 4GB ddr2
[08:10] <phoenixsampras> duepi: yeh, bugs, ask refund
[08:10] <KB1JWQ> phoenixsampras: Calm down, please. :-)
[08:10] <StepNjump> Open office works great on Win7 64.. Never had a problem with it
[08:10] <duepi> phoenixsampras: Are you mad, mate? Do you need some time out?
[08:11] <phoenixsampras> duepi: im trying to help you and you are insulting me, (04:08:37 AM) duepi: phoenixsampras: your mothers ass
[08:11] <StepNjump> oh ok, it's not that then duepi. I have 1 GB so I thought that cld have been the problem
[08:11] <iiicyg> Troll detected.
[08:12] <duepi> phoenixsampras: Are you mad, mate? Do you need some time out?
[08:12] <duepi> StepNjump: Mine crashes when I try to open the referencing system, and a few other things
[08:12] <phoenixsampras> can somebody remove duepi?? he is offending people
[08:12] <silvery> Hi, guys. Is there any simple way to diagnose why system starts from external devices only on laptop(Acer Aspire 5350)?
[08:13] <silvery> U*10.10
[08:13] <StepNjump> duepi: I might have found something to consider http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=11311
[08:13] <StepNjump> Is your java enabled?
[08:13] <StepNjump> Mine crashes all the time duepi
[08:13] <StepNjump> It's getting worse
[08:14] <StepNjump> After some searching (unsuccessfully) I looked in Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice.org -> Java and found that OpenOffice had not enabled java. I enabled my JRE and everything is back to normal.
[08:14] <phoenixsampras> StepNjump: great
[08:15] <StepNjump> Was it off?
[08:15] <silvery> Ubuntu 10.10 fails to start from internal CD/DVD-rom and internal HDD, but it starts perfectly when I plug the same HDD via USB...
[08:16] <duepi> StepNjump: alright, awesome, I'll just check
[08:16] <silvery> any suggestions?
[08:16] <StepNjump> I'm trying to find it myself
[08:17] <cretsiah> silvery ... i would at the booting menu and see where it thinks the drive is
[08:17] <duepi> StepNjump: it's enabled.
[08:17] <cretsiah> look at*
[08:17] <StepNjump> shit
[08:17] <StepNjump> where did you find it?
[08:17] <weecol> !lang | stepnjump
[08:17] <[deXter]> Anyone?
[08:18] <StepNjump> oh ok, I was looking in Writer
[08:18] <duepi> StepNjump: Java?
[08:18] <silvery> crestiah: ide 0 - HDD drive (OK), ide 1 - CD\DVD drive (OK).
[08:18] <duepi> StepNjump: ahh
[08:18] <StepNjump> Try out of fun to check it off
[08:19] <ObsidianX> hey folks, how can i install 32bit sun JDK on 64 bit 10.10
[08:19] <phoenixsampras> !ops (04:08:37 AM) duepi: phoenixsampras: your mothers ass
[08:19] <KB1JWQ> phoenixsampras: /ignore is your friend.
[08:19] <KB1JWQ> Pasting it here is counterproductive.
[08:19] <duepi> phoenixsampras: Can you stop crying about it, please?
[08:20] <cretsiah> silvery not quite sure you got got what i meant?? i was meaning like if you using grub check out the menu.lst file, see if it is mapping drives
[08:20] <c0r0_> Hallo?
[08:21] <StepNjump> so far so good duepi
[08:21] <jiltdil> how to change my ip through command line?
[08:21] <duepi> StepNjump: did you enable it? mine was already enabled
[08:21] <duepi> jiltdil: you can't, call your ISP.
[08:21] <StepNjump> Yep, I think it fixed it for me
[08:21] <duepi> jiltdil: or do you mean your IP on the network?
[08:21] <jiltdil> duepi:yes
[08:21] <StepNjump> No disabled it (I know it's against what this guy says but... thought I would try it
[08:21] <phoenixsampras> jiltdil: you can, ifconfig eth0 10.0.500.1 netmask 255.255.253.5
[08:22] <StepNjump> Mine too was
[08:22] <StepNjump> but now I disabled it
[08:22] <duepi> StepNjump: ahh okay I'll do that
[08:22] <jiltdil> phoenixsampras:how to unchange it?
[08:22] <StepNjump> Absolutely flawless
[08:22] <StepNjump> yesss... (I'll keep my fingers crossed)
[08:23] <duepi> StepNjump: nope, didn't help me at all
[08:23] <silvery> cretsiah: please tell me a bit more about it, just open that file or something else?
[08:23] <StepNjump> You keep crashing?
[08:23] <StepNjump> :(
[08:24] <phoenixsampras> jiltdil: restart service network
[08:24] <gumus> hi al
[08:24] <gumus> all
[08:24] <jiltdil> phoenixsampras: to restatr should i to use /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:25] <gumus> i get this error while trying to insall google-earth.deb. What should I do ?  Installing package... dpkg: error processing /tmp/fileCND5uv.deb (--install):  cannot access archive: Permission denied Errors were encountered while processing:  /tmp/fileCND5uv.deb
[08:26] <phoenixsampras> jiltdil: yes
[08:26] <gumus> can anybody help?
[08:26] <phoenixsampras> gumus: seems permission problems
[08:27] <X-windowsUSR>  aylo- I'm about to kiss Windows goodbye - what version of Linux would be best suited for a nice desktop experience- low hassle on device drivers, and not limiting for development ? (eclipse and java) ?
[08:27] <X-windowsUSR> ubuntu looks pretty good.
[08:27] <StepNjump> Wird duepi, it works really well here
[08:27] <X-windowsUSR> I hear people say things good about debian
[08:27] <X-windowsUSR> any thoughts ?
[08:27] <StepNjump> duepi let's check our java versions
[08:27] <X-windowsUSR> comments are locked in #linux.
[08:28] <gumus> phoenix: but i did it successfully before. however, software didn't run . So i tried to re-install.Now i can'T
[08:28] <StepNjump> how can I do that?
[08:28] <StepNjump> so we can compare
[08:28] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: fedora is cool, however i do use ubuntu
[08:28] <X-windowsUSR> gains with ubuntu ?
[08:28] <silvery> cretsiah: thanks for that tip
[08:28] <X-windowsUSR> will be a near first time use with *nix -
[08:29] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: im just lazzy with configs, so ubuntu is ready to go with almost anything
[08:29] <X-windowsUSR> so, user friendly + good device support is nice.
[08:29] <X-windowsUSR> oh.
[08:29] <hide_nba> #join #esm
[08:29] <X-windowsUSR> well then - sounds like ubuntu might be it
[08:29] <X-windowsUSR> what do I need server for ?
[08:30] <X-windowsUSR> say- if I want to install oracle 11g - do I need server ?
[08:30] <StepNjump> guys, how can I check what my java version is please?
[08:30] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: nah, you can install almost anything on ubuntu
[08:30] <X-windowsUSR> ok then - off I go
[08:30] <X-windowsUSR> any last tips I might encoutner during install ?
[08:30] <X-windowsUSR> page size ? workspace default size ?
[08:31] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: well i do have 2x 1080p monitors, i just needed to install nvidia drivers, which was a bit trickier but all fine now
[08:31] <Alex__> Hello, where can I find documentation for the Unity interface?
[08:32] <X-windowsUSR> is thre a Unity3d desktop ?
[08:32] <X-windowsUSR> that's nice if so
[08:32] <X-windowsUSR> I always wanted a 3-d walk through desktop area - I've been playing with unity3d for a month now.
[08:32] <Alex___> hello
[08:32] <X-windowsUSR> ok phoenix. what about network security ?
[08:32] <Alex___> Is there any documentation for the unity interface?
[08:32] <chilli0> Hi, for some reason after updating a few days ago. my samba client doesn't work anymore.. I can load smaller mount partions but anything big just crashed when I load it.
[08:33] <KB1JWQ> !unity
[08:33] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: i think unity will be with ubuntu on april, next version
[08:33] <KB1JWQ> Alex___: ^^
[08:33] <Alex___> Because the bar on the left is hiding automaticly, and I dont want this
[08:33] <X-windowsUSR> phoenixsampras - any thoughts on network security ? for ubuntu ?
[08:33] <X-windowsUSR> does it come with a firewall ?
[08:33] <KB1JWQ> X-windowsUSR: It does.
[08:33] <X-windowsUSR> is it turned on automatically ?
[08:33] <KB1JWQ> !iptables
[08:33] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: well it has selinux and iptables, which is quite secure... but i do have them disabled :P
[08:33] <X-windowsUSR> ok.
[08:34] <X-windowsUSR> I just don't want to leave the front door wide open
[08:34] <maxillusionist> X-windowsUSR can implement some open source firewalls
[08:34] <X-windowsUSR> last time I had to get into setting modem settings - chap etc.
[08:34] <X-windowsUSR> is that all pretty much automatic post install ?
[08:35] <X-windowsUSR> I'm not looking forward to editing column 9 of row 134 etc.
[08:35] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: yeh, you just use ubuntu software central to install everything, like itunes
[08:35] <X-windowsUSR> oh well- it's here... Hope it works in Virtualbox
[08:35] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: yeh, trying on virtualbox
[08:35] <maxillusionist> try synaptic package manager,i guess ubuntu comes with firewall inbuilt x-windowUSR
[08:35] <X-windowsUSR> I wonder if VB will be slower.
[08:35] <X-windowsUSR> I hope it's okay.
[08:36] <X-windowsUSR> friend of mine used to do network security testing with virtual OS installs.
[08:36] <X-windowsUSR> will be neat to test some things I suppose.
[08:36] <maxillusionist> must be backtrack indeed ??
[08:36] <gilles> hey .. can any1 help me with  starcraft 2 ... i have teamviewer so some1 can connect and see the problem and help me .. i got teh game running , full screen only, sound works i can log in but cant play multiplayer or siungleplaye
[08:37] <maxillusionist> well i like fuzzing network protocols
[08:37] <StepNjump> duepi did you try to run Outlook 2002 under wine?
[08:37] <phoenixsampras> gilles: aint that game outfashioned?
[08:37] <X-windowsUSR> oh god- I'm leaving Windows for some CYGWIN issues, and here I'll be gaining new WINE issues - augh!
[08:37] <X-windowsUSR> ya just can't win
[08:37] <gilles> outfashionned ?>
[08:37] <gilles> its new
[08:37] <maxillusionist> try  VMware
[08:38] <phoenixsampras> vbox > vmware
[08:38] <X-windowsUSR> oh ? WM for what ? *nix to run windows ?
[08:38] <X-windowsUSR> I'm using vbox  - but is VM free now ?
[08:38] <maxillusionist> i run MAC snow leopard in vmware LOL
[08:38] <maxillusionist> anything
[08:38] <X-windowsUSR> VM is time tested indeed
[08:38] <X-windowsUSR> max- does VM cost ?
[08:38] <maxillusionist> i run android too,
[08:38] <X-windowsUSR> damn - I wonder, maybe I should use VMWare over VB
[08:38] <maxillusionist> you can download from mediafire
[08:38] <X-windowsUSR> any benefits over VB ?
[08:39] <maxillusionist> virtual box is free i think
[08:39] <X-windowsUSR> yes - it is.
[08:39] <X-windowsUSR> VM iir used to cost .
[08:39] <Gryllida> http://pastebin.fossnet.info/index.php/view/52528690 - error during apt-get update - sources.list is here: http://pastebin.fossnet.info/index.php/view/8675698 - ideas?
[08:39] <maxillusionist> vm needs some serials
[08:39] <X-windowsUSR> oh, no money right now, I'll skip that.
[08:39] <X-windowsUSR> thanks though, forgot about VM
[08:39] <maxillusionist> dude you can avail it for free if you want
[08:40] <ilea> how can i configure the  wi-fi internet conection with a whierles router i need for someone to get the internet working
[08:40] <KB1JWQ> Gryllida: Those links don't work here.
[08:40] <maxillusionist> mediafire can give you cracks
[08:40] <KB1JWQ> Er, the ones for the repo you're nailing.
[08:41] <Gryllida> hm
[08:41] <maxillusionist> http://www.mediafire.com/?rglt3ayombe
[08:41] <Gryllida> KB1JWQ, which ones?
[08:41] <duepi> StepNjump:all the ms office 2007 works under wine
[08:41] <maxillusionist> keygen for vmware
[08:41] <KB1JWQ> Gryllida: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mono-ubuntu/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ contains no maverick, for one.
[08:41] <ubuntu89897> i want to connect via network an ubuntu computer with a windows 7 computer but i have problems with access the data from ubuntu with samba can anybody help?
[08:42] <wizz> hi all. i was installed compiz in ubuntu 10.10 and i realize it's have less effect then 9.10. how  to get all that missed?
[08:42] <StepNjump> oh nice. thanks
[08:42] <StepNjump> oh nice thanks duepi
[08:42] <wooter> ubuntu89897, you have to turn off the workgroup only sharing on windows 7
[08:43] <wooter> makes it less secure, about the same as XP, you still have password protection
[08:43] <ilea> how to make the internet conection work with a wi-fi router?
[08:43] <ubuntu89897> wooter, how can i do that, i have made accesable an folder in "options" for "everybody" but cant acess in nautilus under "network"
[08:44] <maxillusionist> yeah why not duepi if IE8 can run then anything can run
[08:44] <Alex__> hmm
[08:44] <Alex__> i dont see any documentation for unity
[08:44] <Alex__> how to disable the hiding of the panel on the left when I maximize
[08:44] <maxillusionist> ilea which router do you use
[08:45] <Evanescence> I need help about mocp , I can not use ExecCommand2 = "rm -i %f" in mocp config , mocp display bad command.
[08:46] <duepi> maxillusionist: ms products work well under wine, they're not actually coded that badly
[08:46] <c0r0_> hai
[08:46] <duepi> maxillusionist: there's a bunch of stuff that doesn't work though
[08:46] <BezNalogov> Hello people. I'm trying to create a launcher on my gnome desktop. But it has to be executed in a terminal window. How can I make the launcher do that? The command that I want to be run in the terminal is: ssh -l myuser server1
[08:47] <Alex__> When I maximize a screen the panel hides. How to disable this? (unity)
[08:47] <duepi> Alex__: what panel?
[08:47] <acicula> BezNalogov: launch a terminal emulator first, gnome-console or xterm
[08:47] <mgolisch> BezNalogov: start some terminal app? like gnome-terminal -e "ssh foo bar"
[08:48] <BezNalogov> ok thanks
[08:49] <Gryllida> KB1JWQ, I don't even see http://ppa.launchpad.net/mono-ubuntu/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ in the paste of sources.list, which line is it then?
[08:49] <BezNalogov> Yes, that works. Thanks
[08:50] <maxillusionist> duepi what stuffs is it IDM
[08:50] <duepi> maxillusionist: IDM doesn't work properly, yes
[08:50] <StepNjump> duepi, you never told me your Open Office writer's version did you?
[08:50] <duepi> StepNjump: it's the latest one..
[08:50] <beecarr> how do i install gzip package through ubuntu through Ubuntu software centre, thereby ensuring correct dependencies
[08:51] <acicula> !gzip
[08:51] <ubuntu89897> anybody was able to connect windows with ubuntu and make folders accesable?
[08:51] <acicula> !gunzip
[08:51] <duepi> acicula: lol
[08:51] <acicula> hmm
[08:51] <danielpaciran> ark
[08:52] <StepNjump> Yeah duepi but which version?
[08:52] <StepNjump> Go to help and about
[08:52] <acicula> surprisingly, gzip is part of the gzip package. so apt-get install gzip should do it
[08:52] <StepNjump> And give me the build number too please
[08:52] <StepNjump> Because here it works fine so you'd think yours should work the same way duepi
[08:52] <acicula> apt-get will pull in any dependency's, though i doubt there are that many for gzip
[08:53] <phoenixsampras> who doesnt have gzip LOL
[08:53] <nbros652> ubuntu89897: search for Samba in the software center and install it
[08:53] <maxillusionist> yeah duepi i had tried as well but i guess something can be done to make it working as it is a network program and as i said if IE8 can then anything duepi
[08:53] <ilter> Hello. On 10.10 netbook edition. How can i start same application twice from tray on right?
[08:54] <StepNjump> Ah never mind duepi. It crashed again!
[08:54] <acicula> ubuntu89897: just sharing files on either platform has worked for me in the past
[08:55] <ajmal> Hai all i need to access our online dedicated server using terminal of my ubuntu os. How can i do this.
[08:56] <acicula> ajmal: you use the ssh program for this
[08:56] <c0r0_> Loooo
[08:58] <ubuntu89897> acicula, does it only work with "crosses" network cable?
[08:58] <ubuntu89897> acicula, "crossed"
[08:58] <acicula> ubuntu89897: there is no relation between the two
[08:59] <et_> I'm wondering what is the name of the little animation that the mouse pointer turns into when the system is busy doing something?
[08:59] <et_> The equivalent of the hourglass thingie in Windows.
[08:59] <ajmal> [acicula] I tried to use "ssh <username>@< server ip>"  But i got given error message.  ssh: connect to host 204.197.242.18 port 22: Connection refused
[09:00] <duepi> ajmal: iptables problem, mayb
[09:00] <duepi> e
[09:00] <llutz> ajmal: ssh-server running on server? "lsof -i :22"
[09:00] <et_> anybody?
[09:00] <llutz> ajmal: "Connection refused" means "nothing listens on this port"
[09:00] <ajmal> [duepi] How can i resolve this problem
[09:01] <acicula> ajmal: connection refused means you were able to reach the host, but the connection was rejected. This can happen because there is not a service running at that port/ip, or because of firewall rules rejecting connections to that service
[09:02] <gumus> hi all
[09:02] <shezri> hi
[09:02] <et_> hi
[09:02] <ubuntu89897> acicula, what do you mean?
[09:02] <et_> what is the name of the little animation that the mouse pointer turns into when the system is  busy doing something?
[09:02] <gumus> i can't run the google earth
[09:02] <ajmal> [acicula] How can i solve this problem
[09:02] <acicula> ajmal: you can not remotely fix this. Make sure that the ssh service is running and on what port it is listening, also verify that you do not have firewall rules blocking connections and/or there arent other firewalls on the network blocking the connection
[09:02] <gumus> with no appearing error
[09:03] <gumus> i click on the icon then nothing happens
[09:03] <phoenixsampras> ajmal: what problem?
[09:04] <weia> et_: we call that one the hoppy
[09:04] <ajmal> [acicula] our server maintenece party is using putty But I cant access
[09:05] <acicula> ajmal: you need to consult your maintenance party then and have them check they arent blocking connections from your ip address
[09:05] <et_> weia: ok
[09:05] <phoenixsampras> ajmal: call yous sysop
[09:06] <et_> so i made nautilus start automatically after GNOME starts up and this hopppy thing won't disappear
[09:06] <ajmal> [<acicula>] thank you ll get back to u
[09:06] <et_> does it mean something?
[09:06] <et_> weia: I'm trying to make a kiosk.
[09:07] <acicula> ajmal: your welcome
[09:07] <acicula> et_: hoppy thing?, nautilus starts by default on gnome as it also handles desktop icons
[09:09] <et_> acicula: s. I just replaced /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop with a script that starts nautilus immediately after loading GNOME
[09:10] <jiltdil> how to open pdf file in terminal?
[09:10] <et_> acuicula: by 'starts' I mean open a nautilus window.
[09:10] <acicula> jiltdil: depends on the pdf viewer, the gnome default is called evince
[09:10] <ubuntu89897> nbors652, i thought it was part of standard installation
[09:10] <et_> I'm just trying to make a kiosk out of ubuntu. But that little mouse animation won't stop after nautilus pops up..
[09:10] <et_> acicula: I'm just trying to make a kiosk out of ubuntu. But that little mouse animation won't stop after nautilus pops  up..
[09:11] <jiltdil> acicula:actually i want to open it under terminal not ouside it as we open any text file using vi or gedit under termianl
[09:11] <acicula> et_: i see, wouldnt know about that specific problem, but are you following some specific kiosk howto or?
[09:11] <acicula> jiltdil: there is pdf2txt or the various pdf2something converters
[09:12] <acicula> jiltdil: pdftotxt even
[09:12] <et_> acicula: no I am not. I just manually stripped the system down by uninstalling several packages. then tried to start nautilus immediately after GNOME starts up
[09:12] <et_> acicula: The idea is to have the application (in this case, nautilus) open up in full screen when the system starts.
[09:13] <et_> acicula: and the system shutsdown when I close the application.
[09:14] <iamaregee2> how to configure PKG_CONFIG_PATH ??
[09:14] <acicula> et_: dont have a solution for the mouse pointer
[09:14] <et_> acicula: One of the guys here told me that little mouse animation (the equivalent of the hourglass in windows) is called hoppy!
[09:14] <iamaregee2> ./configure shows error that gtk+-2.0 >= 2.10 not found
[09:14] <et_> acicula: Ok. Thanks though ! :)
[09:14] <iamaregee2> but its installed in /ur/lib
[09:15] <acicula> iamaregee2: you need to install the -dev version
[09:15] <et_> acicula: is there any other channel where I can look for help?
[09:15] <iamaregee2> hmm...
[09:15] <void_pointer> et_ any reason you just didn't use one of the chopped down distros of debian?
[09:15] <acicula> iamaregee2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[09:15] <iamaregee2> is it available on software center  ??
[09:15] <acicula> for the path variable
[09:15] <acicula> iamaregee2: for all open source packages there usually are -dev versions included when appropriate
[09:15] <et_> void_pointer: no specific reason. I just had ubuntu at hand and decided to get something working.!
[09:16] <iamaregee2> thanks lemme try it out...
[09:16] <acicula> iamaregee2: ussually adding it to .bashrc or .profile in your home is enough, unless you need the variables to apply system wide, see the wikipage i linked for details
[09:18] <acicula> iamaregee2: also be sure not to just blindly do make install as root, as by default most programs will dump their files in with the system files, which is typically not what you want
[09:18] <jiltdil> acicula: when i used pdftptxt it shows no result whem i use  pdftotext  it converts.thax for guiding me
[09:19] <jiltdil> acicula: when i used pdftotxt it shows no result whem i use  pdftotext  it converts.thax for guiding me
[09:19] <void_pointer> et_ fair enough. Although it often works out better to start with a minimal distro and build up, instead of a "full" distro and tear down. If you know what I mean.
[09:19] <acicula> jiltdil: heh i even looked it up for you and still copied it incorrectly, reading 101 failure :D
[09:19] <acicula> and i still copied..
[09:19] <iamaregee2> @acicula
[09:19] <iamaregee2> okay
[09:19] <jiltdil> acicula:hehehe ..any way thanx
[09:20] <et_> void_pointer: I understand !
[09:21] <acicula> iamaregee2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware , the last step explains how to make a deb file from compiled source
[09:22] <iamaregee2> i 've gtk-2.0 installed ...but the installing software is searching for gtk+-2.0 ...do i need to install gtk+-2.0
[09:23] <acicula> iamaregee2: libgtk2.0-dev - Development files for the GTK+ library
[09:23] <acicula> iamaregee2: apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev
[09:24] <acicula> clear
[09:25] <iamaregee2> yeah
[09:25] <iamaregee2> thanks
[09:25] <jiltdil> acicula: ok how to convert text to pdf via terminal
[09:25] <acicula> jiltdil: latex ;)
[09:26] <iamaregee2> and does it works for converting pdf to txt as well ??
[09:26] <acicula> jiltdil: there is no formatting in txt, so pdf doesnt know what to do with it, other then treating the whole txt as one blob of text
[09:27] <dark2> Using ubuntu 10.10, updating causes me to just boot into a black and white striped screen
[09:27] <dark2> Not sure what update, just started happening after installing some
[09:27] <void_pointer> dark2 ah, Zippy Zebra must be out
[09:27] <dark2> :P
[09:27] <dark2> Not a new ubuntu version, just updates via update manager
[09:28] <dark2> I've been up all night trying to figure it out
[09:28] <void_pointer> sorry. All night coding session has left me delirious. I'd better depart
[09:28] <dark2> I just had to re-install ubuntu, but it will do it again
[09:28] <acicula> jiltdil: what you can do is perhaps decompile pdf to source instead of txt, make whatever  changes you want and then render it again
[09:28] <larious> anybody from Nigeria here
[09:29] <_cronus_> et_, which cursor theme are you using? maybe if you reinstall it, it will fix your problem
[09:29] <jiltdil> acicula:hw to do that
[09:29] <acicula> dark2: switched video driver by any chance?
[09:30] <dark2> Not that I know of
[09:30] <acicula> jiltdil: not really sure tbh, pdftosrc perhaps?
[09:30] <dark2> Using the propietary ATI drivers
[09:30] <jiltdil> acicula ok m trying
[09:30] <acicula> dark2: does the problem go away if you disable those?
[09:31] <dark2> I can't get in TO disable them
[09:31] <dark2> It locks up
[09:31] <dark2> I re-installed but if I update it will do it again
[09:31] <johanhar> I want to have ubuntu on my macbook. I know it is a dedicated webpage with instructions. I just wonder if anyone here got a macbook (5,5) with ubuntu 10.10, and know any problems? How is the trackpad (mousepad).
[09:31] <Lint01> how to get f..king metacity to start by itself?
[09:32] <acicula> dark2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:%20Need%20to%20purge%20-fglrx this looks like it should let you reset the driver back to the standard one
[09:33] <et_> _cronus_: no tat's not a problem.
[09:33] <acicula> dark2: as for trouble shooting the flgrx driver, im not much use there, what gpu do you have?
[09:33] <dark2> ATI HD 5850
[09:33] <dark2> Also, how do I use those commands if I can't even load in when it does so
[09:33] <et_> _cronus_: I'm thinking my script might be the problem.
[09:33] <dark2> I boot, I get the screen, it's all frozen
[09:34] <acicula> dark2: when booting opt for a rescue console, and then follow the menu to get a shell, or just boot a livecd/stick directly
[09:35] <acicula> in the bootmanager you have the option to select rescue, if you dont get such a menu hold shift, if that dont work hold the other shift.
[09:35] <acicula> (during boot)
[09:35] <Lint01> why would someone want to disable fglrx?
[09:36] <acicula> because enabling it renders his system unusable
[09:36] <magizian> free encrypted anonymous chatserver at magizian.hopto.org
[09:37] <dark2> If I do that though, I can't run 3D games
[09:37] <larious> any nigeria here
[09:37] <dark2> and the resolution will be horrible
[09:37] <_cronus_> et_, so you get to see all cursors except the waiting cursor?
[09:37] <acicula> dark2: the open source ati should let you set proper resolutions, but yeah the 3D acceleration will be lacking
[09:38] <dark2> I jumped out of my seat when I saw the striped lined screen
[09:39] <acicula> what did you see specifically
[09:39] <dark2> Just black and white vertical lines across both of my screens
[09:40] <acicula> think the radeonhd driver does have some 3d capability, its not a basic shim driver like the nvidia one is
[09:41] <acicula> dark2: could try the 11.04 and see if the newer ati drivers included function better? should be able to test with a livecd/usbstick
[09:41] <quask> hi
[09:41] <dark2> It was the 11.04 ones that were used.
[09:42] <quask> when I start firefox I get following error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: EOF in dbus-launch reading address from bus daemon
[09:42] <quask> can anyone help me fixing that?
[09:42] <acicula> dark2: then try the 10.10 distribution, or were you mixing your own packages?
[09:43] <rtdp> my ubuntu 10.10 with duel monitor laptop is giving error as - Xserver does not support requested size - and after giving this error it shows mirror on both monitors
[09:43] <dark2> No I used the 11.04 and had the error, now reinstalled ubuntu and using the ones via "Additional drivers"
[09:43] <rtdp> why it gives error as - Xserver does not support requested size ? i am on ubuntu 10.10
[09:43] <dark2> But neither let me set a primary monitor and move my gnome bars over
[09:43] <dark2> >.>
[09:46] <acicula> flgrd doesnt work for you on 10.10 or 10.04?
[09:46] <acicula> err 11.04?
[09:48] <neil_> Hi everyone, I have a question regarding the password set up for thunderbird
[09:48] <neil_> I want to set up a password when even i open thunderbird
[09:48] <dark2> flgrd?
[09:48] <acicula> flgrx, the binary ati drivers
[09:48] <acicula> *proprietary
[09:49] <dark2> They operate currently
[09:49] <dark2> BUT
[09:49] <dark2> I haven't updated anything yet
[09:49] <rtdp> Xserver does not support requested size   -   how can this be solved for ubuntu 10.04 with dell inspiron,  ATI graphics card
[09:49] <dark2> still can't move the GNOME bars off the small monitor though.
[09:50] <quask> can anyone help me fixing the following issue? when I start firefox I get following error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: EOF in dbus-
[09:50] <quask> launch reading address from bus daemon
[09:50] <neil_> ???????????????????????????????????????
[09:50] <acicula> dark2: you mean to say updating 11.04 (not updating to 11.04) breaks the video?
[09:50] <dark2> I'm on ubuntu 10.10 just so we're clear
[09:51] <acicula> dark2: and when you update you mean the regular updates or the updates to 11.04?
[09:51] <dark2> I was using the latest ATI drivers from ATI directly, and updating things via update manager broke everything.
[09:51] <dark2> Regular updates
[09:51] <dark2> Not distro upgrade
[09:52] <acicula> so if i understand correctly: you have 10.10 ,you installed the ati drivers manually, then when you update with the updatemanager, things get hosed?
[09:52] <acicula> and by manually i mean went to the ati website and fetched their linux drivers?
[09:53] <dark2> yes
[09:53] <mix22891> עםם
[09:53] <acicula> dark2: then things are working as expected.
[09:53] <mix22891> good morning
[09:54] <mix22891> how do i scan a picture?
[09:54] <abhinav_singh> i need help with this http://pastebin.com/sm6cbFp6
[09:54] <dark2> what do you mean, as expected
[09:54] <acicula> dark2: the package manager has no perception of the binary driver package, and so this often leads to problems
[09:55] <dark2> Huh.
[09:55] <dark2> Thought it was a good idea to grab the newest
[09:55] <dark2> guess not?
[09:55] <acicula> dark2: its not
[09:55] <dark2> Windows logic =/= Linux logic I suppose.
[09:55] <acicula> dark2: correct ;)
[09:56] <dark2> I'll see if things still go OK after updates
[09:56] <acicula> dark2: if you must use newer ati drivers always always always use packaged versions, never just tarballs
[09:56] <dark2> It was a .run
[09:56] <dark2> or something like that
[09:56] <acicula> yeah thats the same deal, thats just a tarball with a shell script attached
[09:56] <jakobbg> Hey. An ideatorrent-module in drupal is spewing out lots if "Parameter 1 to profile_load_profile() expected to be a reference, value given"-warnings, running 10.04 LTS 64bits, drupal,php&apache2 from standard packages. Using ideatorrent 0.9.1. any help is appreciated, did not find anything on google.
[09:57] <dark2> But, can I get the gnome bars off my right screen and onto the left?
[09:57] <dark2> They seem to be stuck there
[09:57] <Shvonder> neil_: I've never done it. Still I think the question refers to AppArmour and, may be, PAM configuration.
[09:57] <acicula> dark2: i think it defaults to whatever monitor is set to primary in the video configuration tool
[09:59] <dark2> In windows CCC I can set it easy, but it doesn't seem to be the case here
[09:59] <axscode> hi guys im running compiz-fusion, and have an extended dual monitor. im having trouble transfering a window to extended
[09:59] <Shvonder> neil_: PAM definetly is the thing that manges with passwords and logins. I can't say much about AppArmour
[09:59] <neil_> Shvonder: what is PAM ?
[10:00] <acicula> dark2: incidently https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI this explains how you can make packages from the unpackaged ati drivers, but ymmv. If things start to fail purge the fglrx drivers and revert back to the opensource/proprietary drivers included with the distribution
[10:00] <Lint01> neil_ pluggable authentication module
[10:00] <Shvonder> neil_: Here is it home page. (Look documentation please) http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/
[10:01] <neil_> Sure
[10:01] <hilarie> Not sure if this is the right place... but... here goes, when I hit python test1.py 1>/pinglogs/superninjalogfile.txt 2>/pinglogs/superninjaloglife2.txt that into terminal, I get bash: /pinglogs/superninjalogfile.txt: No such file or directory I created both the folder, and the file needed thinking that might be it
[10:01] <axscode> hi guys im running compiz-fusion, and have an extended dual monitor. im having trouble transfering a window to extended
[10:01] <acicula> dark2: try preferences->video, should be a primary toggle there iirc.
[10:02] <dark2> There is no video option.
[10:02] <Ant13> Hi, is it possible to install Ubunt 10.10 on a mac without refit? And what about newest uefi pc?
[10:02] <lordpain> hello all
[10:02] <lordpain> hello all
[10:03] <Shvonder> neil_: Be aware it's very dangerous thing. You should configure it very carefully unless you want make the OS not usable.
[10:03] <lordpain> how do i open a C$ folder on a network
[10:03] <neil_> I was also reading about a small plugin in thunderbird called "Profile password"
[10:03] <acicula> dark2: then i dont know where the option to set the primary is at, not behind ubuntu myself atm so cant check
[10:03] <neil_> However i was not able to download it for the linux version
[10:04] <Shvonder> neil_: I don't use Thunderbird, sorry
[10:04] <Lint01> lordpain, smb://host-name-or-ip/c$
[10:04] <neil_> Okay
[10:04] <neil_> Also I have a problem in sharing the printer on a Remote Terminal Connection
[10:04] <acicula> neil_: setting a master password in thunderbird has nothing to do with pam or apparmor
[10:05] <Ant13> Hi, is it possible to install Ubunt 10.10 on a mac without refit? And what about newest uefi pc?	
[10:05] <acicula> neil_: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Master_password under setting a master password the procedure is explained
[10:05] <Adbuntu> hey guys, how i can chat in YM room via emphaty??
[10:06] <neil_> Acicula: I have no problem in setting up the master password, however I want to set up a profile password
[10:06] <lordpain> linnt01 it ask for a username ,domain and password
[10:08] <acicula> neil_: you want to prevent others from accessing a profile?
[10:09] <neil_> Acicula: Yes, to be precise I want to get the passwd screen as soon as I open thunderbird
[10:10] <pankaj_sharma> !history
[10:11] <acicula> neil_: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Protect_the_profiles_contents has some suggestions, under the weak methods to protect the profile contents
[10:12] <acicula> if you want to keep your emails safe though you should look for other security measures then an access password
[10:13] <blaize> neil_, why do you want to do it that way?  Wouldn't a better option to be to give people who use your computer their own profile? Or just lock your screen if you leave your desk?
[10:15] <SoftarPaul> Hello! I've downloaded Samba. I'm sitting with a networkcable from my Ubuntu, to my Xbox and I want to share the network with Samba. How to?
[10:16] <kisuke> ok tring to run an update from CLI and getting this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/580069/ any ideas whats borking?
[10:17] <ubuntu89897> SoftarPaul, i have the same problem if u know how pls tell me
[10:17] <Shvonder> neil_: you know it is because of PAM you have to write password every time you run "pon" or "poff" commands, "ssh" andso on. Because of that it is possible to write a RULE for thunderbird like to any other program
[10:18] <Shvonder> hypotetically
[10:18] <neil_> okay
[10:19] <acicula> kisuke: punch your error into google, gives you this suggestion: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[10:19] <acicula> then run apt-get update again
[10:19] <kisuke> acicula: thanks, didnt see that when i googled it
[10:19] <fyriad> exit
[10:20] <acicula> SoftarPaul: usually people just click a folder in the filebrowser and enable the share option. How did you download samba?
[10:21] <acicula> *right click
[10:21] <SoftarPaul> Hey! Now when I plugged in the networkcable, it automaticaly worked!
[10:21] <SoftarPaul> without samba
[10:22] <simmerz> is this the right place to ask about PPA issues?
[10:22] <sandstrom> I have an ubuntu server with ~ 600 mb memory and 591 mb is used. All processes in top sum up to about ~80 mb memory usage. I've no idea where the rest is, any ideas?
[10:22] <acicula> sandstrom: cache
[10:23] <sandstrom> acicula: is that files (disk data) cached in ram?
[10:23] <iflema> !mem | sandstrom
[10:24] <acicula> sandstrom: that and a few other things
[10:24] <acicula> sandstrom: type in free -m, second row second column shows you the real memory in use by processes
[10:25] <Billybob3> Hi. Can anyone help me install manually my legacy nvidia driver in 10.04?
[10:25] <sandstrom> iflema: thanks!
[10:26] <acicula> Billybob3: the legacy drivers are packaged and can be activated via the Hardware drivers menu
[10:27] <sandstrom> acicula: thanks! So then I have ~100 used by processes, and the rest is free. Great! I guess I should reconfigure my server reporting tool which is sending me low memory alerts atm.
[10:27] <acicula> sandstrom: probably a good ieda
[10:28] <proper> read me
[10:28] <Billybob3> acicula- my Hardware drivers menu says is blank now and says there are no proprietary drivers in use.
[10:28] <acicula> Billybob3: what gpu do you have?
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[10:30] <namitha> hey
[10:30] <Billybob3> acicula -gpu? er I think it's GeForce4 MX 4000
[10:30] <serengeti> hello. do you know of any Linux graphics program that makes it possible to use advanced typographic features found in some OpenType fonts? for example, http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/sudtipos/lady-rene/
[10:30] <empity> anyone knows maybe how to automatically start gpg and ssh-agent at every session?
[10:30] <empity> using awesome possibly..
[10:30] <namitha> ru dealing with the wireles driver or graphics driver
[10:31] <Billybob3> proper-bcmwl driver? And what do I do with that? Manually install it?
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[10:31] <acicula> empity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup ?
[10:31] <namitha> gpw
[10:31] <empity> acicula: yes but I don't use the fancy stupid g ui
[10:32] <acicula> namitha, proper, he wasnt asking about his wireless card
[10:32] <empity> it's ubuntu here but with awesome, and on the other machine just archlinux
[10:32] <acicula> Billybob3: whats your gpu
[10:32] <Billybob3> namitha-ok
[10:32] <namitha> ok i know
[10:32] <empity> but there should be a more general way
[10:33] <acicula> empity: you can either use sytstem wide services or use your .bashrc or .profile to execute additional command
[10:33] <namitha> problem with installation u may need to install the dkms and the dependancies from the cd itself
[10:33] <Billybob3> acicula- gpu is that my graphics card? GForce MX4000
[10:33] <acicula> Billybob3: yes
[10:34] <namitha> anyone read me
[10:34] <Billybob3> acicula - GForce MX400
[10:34] <Billybob3> MX4000
[10:35] <neil_> I also have a question about the user restrictions in Ubuntu
[10:35] <namitha> problem wit connecting the dun through my mobile it flags null..,when i tried to
[10:35] <Shvonder> Billybob3: Download it and install from official site
[10:35] <empity> acicula: yes but other processes are not "son" of the process that first start them
[10:35] <neil_> is there any way that I can diable the "sudo" access for the user and I can get a report if anyone tries to access the "sudo" command
[10:36] <iceroot> neil_: remove him from the admin-group. for the report, there is the tool logcheck which will send mails on such events
[10:36] <namitha> neil:change the settings in administrater -
[10:36] <neil_> namitha: how?
[10:37] <namitha> .> users and groups utilities
[10:37] <namitha> it provides the options on the main tree
[10:38] <mix22891> ubuntu crash when i've copy files
[10:38] <mix22891> i've report about this
[10:38] <namitha> hello pls help me
[10:38] <mix22891> call 911
[10:38] <Billybob3> Shavonder-I already have. It's sitting on my desktop but when try to install it I get half way through the install and then it tells me that a driver such as nvidiafb or rivafb is stopping the NVIDIA driver from taking owership of the Nvidia graphics device
[10:38] <neil_> namitha: wts d issue u r facing?
[10:38] <namitha>  problem wit connecting the dun through my mobile it flags null..,when i tried to
[10:39] <acicula> Billybob3: dont download and install from the official site, thats a good way to instantly hose your system
[10:40] <namitha> neil:::??
[10:40] <acicula> Billybob3: from what i can tell the legacy driver you need is packaged for ubuntu 10.10 still, its called nvidia-96 . can you install that and reboot and see if the driver is then listed in the hardware drivers
[10:40] <Billybob3> acicula-the driver works perfectly well in systems prior to Ubuntu 10.04
[10:40] <germi> Hi, I use Qt Creator on Ubuntu 10.10. When I try 'run' my program(from creator) QT Creator close. Is there a solution to my problem?
[10:40] <mix22891> WE FIGHT FOR FREEDOME!
[10:41] <acicula> Billybob3: the hosing is related to installing critical system files without using the package manager leading to problems
[10:41] <tzaeru> ..any suggestions for a music player that has same functionality as rhytmbox, but doesn't take 10% of CPU together with PulseAudio?
[10:41] <axscode> hi guys im running compiz-fusion, and have an extended dual monitor. im having trouble transfering a window to extended
[10:42] <Billybob3> acicula-this is the one that works that I have sitting on my desktop-NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.16-pkg1
[10:43] <Billybob3> acicula- I mean works when I can get it installed (lol)
[10:43] <acicula> Billybob3: can you open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install nvidia-96  and paste the output on pastebin.com?
[10:44] <Billybob3> acicula-ok doing it now...
[10:47] <Billybob3> acicula-is there any particular precedure or subject area for pasting something on pastebin.com?
[10:47] <acicula> nope, just dump it there, press button and copy the url here
[10:48] <Billybob3> aricula - ok doing it now...
[10:49] <Lint01> how to get f..king metacity to start by itself??
[10:49] <drkenziNNNNN> JOOO
[10:49] <administrator09> hi
[10:49] <drkenziNNNNN> KE TI EBAM CHATOT
[10:49] <administrator09> bojana e svinja
[10:49] <drkenziNNNNN> ZNAM!
[10:50] <administrator09> sakam da izleze ili padne od planetata
[10:50] <drkenziNNNNN> ??
[10:50] <drkenziNNNNN> nvm
[10:50] <ilea> what language( ce limba)
[10:50] <ilea> :P
[10:50] <drkenziNNNNN> ILEA KOJA SI TI?
[10:50] <ikonia> drkenziNNNNN: english only in this channel please
[10:50] <drkenziNNNNN> OK
[10:50] <drkenziNNNNN> KISS MY UGLY ASS
[10:52] <Billybob3> acicula - seems to be bit of a problem...Wrong Captcha CODE, please try again. Make sure COOKIES are enabled in your browser.
[10:52] <federico> hi everybody
[10:52] <rockworldmi> hi.
[10:52] <rockworldmi> http://www.220.ro/funny/Microsoft-Vs-Java/Iw8nmDHL7Y/
[10:53] <vlaar> hiya
[10:53] <rockworldmi> look at this..
[10:53] <federico> what is it?
[10:53] <acicula> Billybob3: fill in the captcha, and or turn of no-script or whatever blocking tool you use?
[10:54] <federico> italians in chat?
[10:54] <acicula> !it
[10:55] <mix22891> my last draw for linux ::::::; \\  http://img189.imageshack.us/i/gb3x.jpg/
[10:56] <AdvoWork> how can i see what ip's are on the network? ie 192.168.0.0/24?
[10:56] <curiousx> AdvoWork: whti nmap
[10:57] <curiousx> nmap -sP 192.169.0.0/24
[10:57] <curiousx> i for get "sudo" =P well you know
[10:58] <Shvonder> AdvoWork: ifconfig
[10:58] <curiousx> and sustitue 9 by 8 =P
[10:58] <Shvonder> ;)
[10:58] <ljsoftnet> hello people
[10:58] <curiousx> like that ---> sudo nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24
[10:58] <mix22891> uh lalalalalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:59] <mix22891> opps
[10:59] <mix22891> sorry
[10:59] <curiousx> excuse me my inglish is not so good =(
[10:59] <mix22891> wrong window
[11:02] <Billybob3> acicula - you still there? here is the pastebin url you asked for: http://pastebin.com/GCKtwBv7
[11:02] <genewitch> well i got x11 forwarding and audio forwarding working on the cloud, now. Remarkably, windows XWin.exe is completely worthless, but ubuntu desktop works flawlessly.
[11:03] <CoNFuS3D> hi, for some reason gnome won't install on kubuntu.... any ideas?
[11:03] <io> CoNFuS3D: #kubuntu
[11:03] <CoNFuS3D> I do the install, says it's installed, then when I go to log out, to select gnome, it's not there
[11:03] <kish> is there a sw to collect usb traces similar to ethereal for packet cature??
[11:03] <CoNFuS3D> it was originally a gnome install, I installed kde, now can't go back to gnome
[11:03] <genewitch> CoNFuS3D: run "which gnome-session"
[11:04] <acicula> Billybob3: reboot see if the driver is listed?
[11:04] <CoNFuS3D> gives me this: /usr/bin/gnome-session
[11:04] <Billybob3> acicula-ok am doing now...
[11:04] <genewitch> CoNFuS3D: it's a matter of editing the config for the login screen i imagine. I'd start googling that. that's my slightly more helpful answer.
[11:05] <Pumpkin-> kish: amazingly, wireshark on Linux can
[11:05] <Pumpkin-> http://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/USB
[11:05] <genewitch> Pumpkin-: for blackboxing a usb device?
[11:06] <Pumpkin-> yeah. Read that page. I think it is what you want.
[11:06] <acicula> CoNFuS3D: in the KDM login manager you can select the gnome session, think you can revet to the gnome login manager using update-alternatives
[11:06] <genewitch> wasn't me, but thanks for the tip :-)
[11:06] <tnm> anybody know what does the decimal points for program mens, like program version 1.2.3 stand for: "1" in the program version, "2" is the version of upgrade and "3" is version of update?
[11:07] <kish> yes
[11:07] <genewitch> tnm: major.minor.build-revision ubuntu 10 is the major, 10.10 is major.minor, for instance.
[11:07] <kish> would be great if you could help..
[11:07] <acicula> not really, for ubuntu the 10.10 just refers to the year/date more then anything
[11:08] <genewitch> acicula: i didn't want to cite windows NT version numbers. or mac OS. mac os X has 10 in front of the major number (currently 5) followed by minor (currently 2 or something) so mac os X 10.5.2
[11:08] <Pumpkin-> tnm: different programs do numbering differently. No really accepted common standards.
[11:09] <genewitch> Pumpkin-: vaguely off topic but it's probably because there's no standard concurrent versioning system adopted by the community, as the good ones do versioning automatically.
[11:09] <iceroot> tnm: 10.10 means year 20(10) month 10. so its 10.10. ubuntu 8.04 was release 200(8) in april (04), so its 8.04
[11:10] <acicula> genewitch: verion numbering is done at the discretion of the developer or marketing (team). the only real convention is that higher means newer
[11:10] <genewitch> acicula: i concede that
[11:10] <billybob3> acicula-hi. here is what lspci -k says:Kernel modules: i2c-viapro
[11:10] <billybob3> 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78)
[11:10] <billybob3> 	Kernel driver in use: via-rhine
[11:10] <billybob3> 	Kernel modules: via-rhine
[11:10] <billybob3> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] (rev c1)
[11:10] <billybob3> 	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[11:10] <billybob3> 	Kernel modules: nvidia-96, nvidiafb, nouveau
[11:11] <billybob3> acicula - system Admin Hardware drivers says driver is activated but not currently in use???? What does that mean?
[11:11] <acicula> billybob3: not a clue, can you activate it ?
[11:12] <Rickardo1> Is there any way I can dump the iptables config.. I have done a lot of changes and need to script it so I don't lose the changes when reboot.
[11:12] <CoNFuS3D> weird, the default desktop is set to GDM, so why then would it still load KDE ?
[11:12] <CoNFuS3D> and also the login screen is gnome... which is also a bit weird
[11:13] <CoNFuS3D> should I try uninstalling gnome, then reinstalling?
[11:13] <billybob3> acicula - it says it is activated already but not currently in use. And button gives me the option to deactivate it...
[11:13] <vlaar> the sessions.conf reference to gdm might be wrong
[11:14] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: gdm is not a desktop
[11:14] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: the loginscreen is gdm, which will load gnome, kde, xfce4, lxde or other things
[11:15] <beacher> \admin
[11:15] <CoNFuS3D> oh!... well.. why is there no selection to change desktops?
[11:15] <CoNFuS3D> and more importantly, how do I fix that?
[11:16] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: if you have kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop installed, there is a session-option in gdm
[11:16] <CoNFuS3D> I tried that, but to no avail
[11:16] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: dpkg -l kubuntu-desktop  is showing "ii"?
[11:17] <billybob3> acicula- it's hard to tell if that new driver is making alot of difference to anything but not worse anyway (lol). Isn't it just possible to get rid of the nvidia-96, nvidiafb, nouveau drivers and install the driver that worked on previous prior to 10.04?
[11:17] <acicula> billybob3: http://askubuntu.com/questions/8469/nvidia-96-not-working-in-maverick all the way at the bottom is a suggestion that may help you
[11:17] <CoNFuS3D> yes
[11:17] <acicula> billybob3: that driver is not likely to work
[11:18] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: and at the login-screen, where you choose your username and gave the password there is a field called session if i am correct
[11:19] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: and please put the nickname infront of a chat-message
[11:19] <CoNFuS3D> there was when I first installed KDE, but not anymore
[11:19] <leptonix> @find charmed
[11:19] <billybob3> acicula - like I said it works nicely when I manage to get it installed  on older systems and it also got installed on linux mint 10 (don't ask me how! lol) but, you're more of an expert on the subject me I guess.
[11:19] <CoNFuS3D> ice799, ok I will in future :)
[11:20] <billybob3> acicula -my old NVIDIA driver I mean
[11:20] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: and using the correct names also? :)
[11:20] <acicula> billybob3: the driver is included in 10.10, but was disabled by default, probably why its loaded, but not activated. Which means you are currently using the nouvaeu driver
[11:20] <CoNFuS3D> iceroot, oops, sorry :P
[11:21] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: if i am correct you can also choose the session in the gnome-menu. system-settings-login-screen (dont know the englisch menu-names)
[11:21] <acicula> but there was an updated version made of the nvidia-96 so it would work in 10.10
[11:21] <CoNFuS3D> iceroot, can't get to gnome to do that :P
[11:22] <beacher> joined #ubuntu
[11:22] <billybob3> acicula - so I'm back at square one? ha ha ha. ok Thanks anyway.
[11:22] <acicula> billybob3: no
[11:22] <acicula> as explained here https://launchpad.net/~dajhorn/+archive/nvidia-96
[11:22] <billybob3> acicula - no?
[11:23] <billybob3> ah ok . thanks
[11:23] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: then have a look at your current desktop you are running for that setting
[11:24] <hale> hi. i have a directory that isn't emty. i can not remoove it via:sudo rmdir -rf IPTables-Parse-0.7/
[11:24] <hale> . plz help
[11:24] <billybob3> acicula - ok got a bit of reading to then. Thanks for your help
[11:24] <CoNFuS3D> iceroot, I would assume user defined session would give me the ability to choose desktops?
[11:25] <acicula> billybob3: sudo aptitude -t maverick-proposed install nvidia-96 nvidia-96-modaliases
[11:26] <acicula> think that should cover it and install the proper update right away without doing anything else
[11:26] <coz_>   hey all
[11:27] <Beacher> hi guys
[11:27] <billybob3> acicula - ok
[11:27] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: i guess so
[11:28] <hale> how can i remove a not emty directory?
[11:28] <CoNFuS3D> iceroot, thanks :)
[11:28] <CoNFuS3D> I try now... brb
[11:28] <iceroot> hale: why -r when using rmdir? rmdir should be the same as rm -r
[11:30] <llutz> rmdir only deletes empty dirs
[11:30] <rockworldmi> http://www.artofliving.org/
[11:30] <Beacher> yes. that only remove empty directory
[11:31] <Beacher> rm -r
[11:31] <acicula> billybob3: did that fix the problem?
[11:33] <billybob3> acicula - sorry was answering the doorbell... just about to sudo what you suggested...just a minute...
[11:35] <billybob3> acicula - guess it needs a reboot again?? Doing that now..
[11:35] <acicula> billybob3: dunno, can try activating first
[11:36] <CoNFuS3D> iceroot, didn't work, tried each and every option available in the login manager... any suggestions?
[11:36] <dromidan> im trying to connect my ubuntu box to the internet via a shared Airport connection on my laptop through ethernet. I am able to share this connection to other macs over the ethernet, but the ubuntu box will not connect using automatic DHCP. Ive tried setting it up manually, but no dice. Is there anything else I can try to make it work, other than trying to set it up manually?
[11:36] <Beacher> question : irc can use in the command line ?
[11:37] <llutz> Beacher: weechat irssi
[11:37] <Beacher> oh . thanks
[11:37] <Beacher> llutz: thanks
[11:38] <billybob3> acicula-system admin hardware drivers says driver is activated but not currently in use AND this time instead of the option to deactivate it I only have the option to remove it???????? Reboot??
[11:39] <acicula> yeah
[11:41] <sveinse> Is is it possible to add any options to avahi-autoipd from interfaces? I've specified a new eth0:1 using the ipv4ll method, however I need to pass --force-bind to avahi-autoipd to make it assign an address.
[11:42] <Shvonder> Beacher: Can irc be used in command line? (It would be more correct. Yes. I heard of IRC-command line clients, through they were not very usefull for ME)
[11:42] <ech0s7> hi
[11:42] <ech0s7> com.synclab.pilotmobile.domain.model.communication.PayloadQueue
[11:43] <ech0s7> wrong paste :)
[11:43] <ech0s7> hi i have a problem with java application, i see only one program icon in application bar if i launch different java applications...
[11:43] <gaden> Shvonder: use irssi
[11:44] <Shvonder> gaden: Say it to Beacher as I use ChatZilla :)
[11:44] <gaden> Shvonder: ouch.. sorry :)
[11:46] <benjamice> hi
[11:46] <benjamice> i have a problem with my touchpad and mouse
[11:46] <Kent_> Can I use a USB data cable to connect my internetless-laptop to my desktop so I can connect to the net?
[11:47] <dromidan> Kent_: you can use an ethernet cable, apparently; im trying to do that now
[11:47] <larious> Kent: you mean you cant set up internet on your Ubuntu
[11:47] <benjamice> i just installed ubuntu on a dell 1525, and installed the updates
[11:47] <benjamice> and now my touchpad dosent respond
[11:48] <benjamice> after rebooting
[11:48] <dromidan> Larious, no he means specifically what he is saying, using a USB cable.
[11:48] <shezri> hi i have a question
[11:49] <kangjing> kangjing
[11:49] <benjamice> my touchpad dosent respond and so does nothing else that i didn't plug in
[11:49] <dkannan> hi, i was using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto - to generate a gpg key. i am using 10.04 aka lucid and it does not have gpg-agent?
[11:50] <coz_> benjamice,  hold on  I am sure someone can help... I am not familiar with touchpad issues
[11:50] <larious> benjamice & dromidan: but me am having a problem to set up internet with my usb modem, can you help me , any Idea cos I dont know my apn and my operator wont give it to me cos they believe that I can tapped from there network
[11:50] <dromidan> dkannan you can do it from the command line pretty simply with just a few commands
[11:51] <stianhj> larious, the APN should be listet on your carriers website..
[11:51] <stianhj> listed*
[11:51] <billybob3> acicula - thanks for your help. I would still sometime ideally like to install my legacy NVIDIA driver the one that Nvidia recommends for the card. I think it makes things less laggy. Anyway for thanks again.
[11:51] <benjamice> well is there any forum where i can write about the specific problem?
[11:51] <acicula> billybob3: does it work?
[11:52] <larious> stianhj: they dont want to expose it to me
[11:52] <dkannan> dromidan: i was following the guide and i did a "gpg --gen-key", there was some parts using gpg-agent that is not available?
[11:52] <stianhj> larious, which carrier?
[11:52] <acicula> billybob3: the packaged nvidia driver in the hardware drivers tool is the same as the driver nvidia distributes, except that its packaged for use in ubuntu
[11:53] <larious> multilinks telecom service
[11:53] <larious> stianhj:  multilinks telecom service
[11:53] <aminixfan> Hi,are there any Qt C binding?
[11:54] <billybob3> acicula-what you helped me install just now? Yes. But the system was working before but was a little laggy depending on what I had done in trying to install my original NVIDIA driver. OK so it's the same driver-but it has a slightly different reference no at the end???
[11:54] <larious>  stianhj:  multilinks telecom service
[11:54] <dromidan> dkannan have you installed gpg-agent? in any case, you do not need it to generate keypairs
[11:54] <billybob3> acicula - yeh the system still works...lol
[11:55] <billybob3> acicula - I just wish I had a clue what the hell it was you helped me do so I could repeat it ha ha ha ha. But thanks for your assistance anyway.
[11:56] <acicula> billybob3: before it was using the noveau driver, the open source version
[11:56]  * kangjing 
[11:56] <benjamice> any1 knows about touchpad related issues?!
[11:57] <billybob3> acicula - pspci -k: Kernel modules: via-rhine
[11:57] <billybob3> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] (rev c1)
[11:57] <billybob3> 	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[11:57] <billybob3> 	Kernel modules: nvidia-96, nvidiafb, nouveau
[11:57] <billybob3> mal@mal-desktopUB1004:~$
[11:57] <FloodBot3> billybob3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:57] <acicula> billybob3: for the next time all you need to do is to use aptitude to install the nvidia-96 package from maverick proposed
[11:57] <dkannan> dromidan: thx, but on lucid i do not see gpg-agent in the install list
[11:57] <dromidan> then apt-get install it
[11:57] <billybob3> acicula - ok thanks mate
[11:59] <acicula> yw
[12:00] <co> if you want to discuss ##fukushima you can join ##fukushima :)
[12:01] <fladr> ^_^
[12:02] <acicula> billybob3: it looks like for the new 11.04 ubuntu just installing the nvidia-96 package should suffice, also packages in proposed should make it into the main repository at some point, but i guess there isnt a whole lot of active development behind the nvidia-96 package given its age
[12:03] <williams> any network gurus in here? trying to connect to machines with diff subnets
[12:04] <llutz> williams: needs a router
[12:05] <stianhj> williams, need a router
[12:05] <billybob3> acicula - that's interesting to know.
[12:05] <stianhj> or what llutz said
[12:06] <williams> third vm machine as router?
[12:06] <llutz> williams: would work
[12:06] <williams> cool
[12:06] <llutz> williams: you need at least one machine with access to both subnets
[12:06] <llutz> that acts as routeing device
[12:10] <kish> is usbmon supported in 2.6.38
[12:11] <system32> I'm using Intel 82865G having problems with screen resolution..
[12:12] <system32> On windows after installing drivers I had 1152x864
[12:12] <system32> Now on ubuntu I can only manage 1024x768
[12:12] <system32> Can anybody guide me.
[12:13] <doed> hi
[12:13] <larious> system32: do you have any idea on how to run my window modem driver to work on linux
[12:14] <system32> nope, i'm new to to ubuntu.
[12:14] <doed> xorg uses 90-100% of cpu all time any ideas what causes this problem ?
[12:14] <larious>  system32: So how do you connect tot the internet
[12:16] <system32> My modem was automatcally detected
[12:16] <sacarlson> larious: normaly we don't use windows drivers to run linux, 95% of all devices have drivers already in the kernel, can you provide use with hardware info with sudo lshw | pastebinit
[12:17] <larious>  system32: so wat is the name of the modem
[12:18] <system32> beetel 220BX
[12:19] <larious> system32: am using huawei
[12:20] <larious> system32: but having problem installing it
[12:22] <kodapa> Ubunut
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[12:23] <larious> kodapa: Yah Ubuntu 10.04 TLS
[12:23] <coz_> LTS
[12:24] <larious> yea
[12:24] <X-windowsUSR> odd, I went to install ubunto using VirtualBox - was just fine, but I cancelled it 1/2 through realizing I want to put the entire thing on another physical drive (so my pagefile isn't being used AND the virtual image - too busy), so I removed the entire install- but my 35 GB is STILL missing on my c drive... yet ? no virtual drives.
[12:24] <X-windowsUSR> Anyone know much about VB ?
[12:24] <larious> coz_: can you help me
[12:24] <coz_> larious,  not sure,, can you repeat the issue?
[12:24] <ljsoftnet> X-windowsUSR i know VB
[12:24] <dcorbin_wrk> The LTS doc says it will be supported for 3 or 5 years for desktop and server respectively.  How can one tell if one has desktop or server installed?
[12:25] <coz_> dcorbin_wrk,   do you have menus and windows ?
[12:25] <DJones> dcorbin_wrk: Typically, a server edition doesn't have a GUI
[12:25] <jrib> dcorbin_wrk: doesn't matter which you have installed. Being supported or not is a property of a package
[12:25] <dcorbin_wrk> coz_: I think yes.
[12:26] <coz_> dcorbin_wrk,  its likely,,, if you have applications and menus that you have the Desktop...
[12:26] <Pici> jrib: you mean that it is the property of a package.  Specifically the "Supported" field that shows in apt-cache show.
[12:31] <Jinxed-> hello
[12:34] <DynamicFail> I have a script that runs fine in the terminal once I am booted up but segfaults when I have it run with crontab... (note: the script needs to be run with root rights)
[12:35] <sipior> DynamicFail: which program in the script is producing the segmentation fault?
[12:35] <larious> I update my Pakage but I cant install online
[12:35] <larious>  I update my Pakage but I cant install offline I mean
[12:36] <Krahmer> Hello, does anyone know how I can easily run remote Ubuntu applications (with GUI) without installing something like Putty or VNC
[12:36] <nawi> how can I launch "gnome preferred applications", it's not where the user guide says
[12:36]  * ruggero waves hello
[12:37] <DynamicFail> sipior, the script starts a program that starts my mpeg encoder and it is that program that seg faults. I have confirmed that if I run it with env - once booted up it will also seg fault, but I added lines to explicitly set the PATH and it still segfaulted
[12:37] <DynamicFail> the program/script runs fine otherwise
[12:37] <BluesKaj> Krahmer, ssh ?
[12:38] <navwey> hi all
[12:38] <DynamicFail> I also set $TERM in the script
[12:38] <DamienCassou> hi
[12:39] <DamienCassou> is there a list of ubuntu-compatible good laptops?
[12:39] <Krahmer> Blueskaj - I can run ubuntu apps remotely via Windows doing that?
[12:39] <DJones> !hcl | DamienCassou You should find some help with this link
[12:39] <ruggero> Hi, I am running 10.10 and I bumping in the gnome-volume-control "Connection failed, reconnecting", I have no sound, but card is seen  by alsamixer.
[12:40] <Krahmer> I should have specified that I need them to run under Windows
[12:40] <ruggero> what shoud I　do ?
[12:40] <DJones> !laptop | DamienCassou PLus this link,
[12:41] <DamienCassou> DJones: thank you, I will have a look. Do you have any personal experience?
[12:41] <sipior> DynamicFail: can you run the program in a cron job from a non-privileged login?
[12:41] <lifestream> Hi, anyone use the PulseAudio equalizer? Is it really scratchy/crackly to you? VLC equalizer by comparison is very 'smooth', doesn't hurt the ears
[12:42] <DJones> DamienCassou: I'm afraid not, I#ve not bought a laptop for about 10 years
[12:42] <[TK]D-Fender> Krahmer: SSH + Ming X Server
[12:42] <DamienCassou> DJones: thanks
[12:43] <DynamicFail> sipior, I don't understand what you mean
[12:44] <Ben64> lifestream: i always remove pulseaudio
[12:44] <sipior> DynamicFail: well, you mentioned that the script failed when run with root privilege. can you run the program from your own crontab?
[12:44] <X-windowsUSR> <ljsoftnet - with VB - do yo know when the virtual drive space shows back up ?  I  created a 35 GB drive, then removed it - 35 is still missing though.
[12:44] <X-windowsUSR> using Oracle's Virtual Box
[12:45] <socram> i've ubuntu server installed, i need to use wine now. So i need to install a desktop. Does wine works well with xubuntu-desktop? or i'm better with gnome?
[12:45] <lifestream> Ben64: I need the equalizer though (have not had success with lapsda or alsaequal)
[12:45] <madc|SPYnX> socram it both stable
[12:45] <jrib> socram: shouldn't matter
[12:45] <lifestream> socram: it doesn't matter
[12:45] <DynamicFail> sipior, no I meant the program requires root privileges to run.
[12:45] <socram> ok, thanks
[12:45] <madc|SPYnX> you can use neither of those
[12:46] <sipior> DynamicFail: which encoder are you using?
[12:46] <DynamicFail> sipior, ie it works if I open up a the terminal and go sudo ./myscript.sh
[12:46] <navwey> i was getting error on installing vbox-4.0 error :wrong arcittecture 'amd64'
[12:46] <navwey> i m begginer
[12:46] <jrib> navwey: get the i386 package, not the amd64 one
[12:46] <coz_> navap,  open a terminal     uname -m
[12:47] <DynamicFail> sipior, it is a hardware encoder from Advanced Micro Peripheral
[12:47] <madc|SPYnX> navwey what is your firmware
[12:47] <ruggero> I have no sounds whatsoever and gnome-volume-control does not respond. My card is listed in lspci and it WAS working until few days ago. Do not know what happened, googled a lot but cant fix it. I have Maverik 10.10.
[12:47] <navwey> error in vbox Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6 (>= 2.11)
[12:47] <coz_> ruggero,  in terminal type    alsamixer
[12:48] <ruggero> done
[12:48] <coz_> ruggero,  check to see if any slider is off or muted
[12:48] <madc|SPYnX> navwey try to update
[12:48] <ljsoftnet> X-windowsUSR i taugth VB meaning visual basic sorry
[12:48] <jrib> navwey: is there a reason you aren't using the vbox from the repositories?
[12:48] <lifestream> ruggero:  have you tried going to alsamixer,  left/right to select,  and press 'm' make sure it goes green
[12:48] <ruggero> all slides for playback are full
[12:48] <dcorbin_wrk> Is there an appropriate /etc file to set system wide environment variables?
[12:48] <jrib> dcorbin_wrk: /etc/environment
[12:49] <ruggero> the "m" command I never tested it, now I did, it becomed green
[12:49] <lifestream> ruggero: I know it sounds silly, but I had that problem today,  and it worked :D
[12:50] <sipior> DynamicFail: i assume it requires root privilege for access to the device file? consider adding yourself to the group which owns the device node, so you can run your script without sudo.
[12:50] <ruggero> got green but I　have no sound, and still the gnome-volume-control shows "cannot connect". Do I　have to restart?
[12:51] <dcorbin_wrk> jrib: doh! thanks
[12:51] <lifestream> ruggero:  shouldn't need to restart,  how about   sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart ?
[12:51] <ruggero> now I　try
[12:51] <jrib> dcorbin_wrk: if you want documentation about « man pam_env » by the way
[12:52] <ruggero> hum... it seems I have no alsa-utils installed, let me check
[12:52] <DynamicFail> sipior, I just done understand how something can work in terminal but fail with crontab... I even tried running it with screen/crontab and still failed.
[12:52] <lifestream> Does anyone use a system sound equalizer that actually works? (yes, yes, I've read this and I've read that)
[12:52] <ruggero> alsa-utils => command not found
[12:52] <sipior> DynamicFail: the environment is different, for one thing.
[12:52] <ruggero> apt-get install alsa-utils
[12:52] <lifestream> ruggero:  when you get to the word 'alsa'  hit Tab to complete, i'm not sure if it's alsa-utils (i am not in Ubuntu ATM)
[12:52] <pinoyoragon> it seems that my swap is not active... how will i be sure?
[12:52] <ruggero> ok lifestream, try now
[12:52] <sipior> DynamicFail: difficult to say more without knowing more about the program you're running.
[12:53] <DynamicFail> sipior, I echoed the $PATH and $TERM from the terminal when it was working and then in my script I set those variables
[12:53] <ruggero> If I tab alsa I have only alsa-mixer-save and alsasound
[12:53] <DynamicFail> sipior, are there any other ways to have scripts start with root when my computer starts?
[12:53] <sipior> DynamicFail: there are other environmental variables. or perhaps the program expects an interactive shell?
[12:53] <madc|SPYnX> Help with TOR
[12:54] <ruggero> it seems it is alsasound restart
[12:54] <madc|SPYnX> How can I install POLIPO, TOR and vadalia
[12:55] <Krahmer> Hello, does anyone know how I can easily run remote Ubuntu applications (with GUI) on Windows without installing something like Putty or VNC
[12:55] <ruggero> very interesting ! sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart gives me: Starting sound driver: snd-ca0106 done
[12:55] <ruggero> Failed to create secure directory: Permission denied
[12:56] <paul_> hi
[12:56] <AdvoWork> if im editing a file dhcpd.leases  what do i have to do after ive removed an entry?
[12:56] <Samuel> newbie searches help..
[12:56] <paul_> is there a channel for newbs btw?
[12:56] <ruggero> I think the reason is that yesterday I moved my home directory to another disk.
[12:57] <lifestream> ruggero:  how about sudo modprobe  snd-ca0106
[12:57] <sipior> Krahmer: you'll need an X server running on the Windows box, and an ssh client to connect to the ubuntu box.
[12:58] <ruggero> it gives an empty answer
[12:58] <lifestream> thats good
[12:58] <Samuel> i've compiled hplip-3.11.1 and it works great but the folder by that name in my Download folder can't be removed
[12:58] <Samuel> any ideas?
[12:58] <Rt666-1_> hi all, i use satanic ubuntu - good!
[12:59] <stianhj> Will installing gnome-shell break something in my regular Ubuntu (10.04)? or can I just switch cleanly in gdm?
[13:00] <stianhj> and is there an up-to-date ppa for lucid?
[13:01] <sipior> Samuel: are you running an executable or accessing a file in that directory?
[13:01] <ruggero> lifestream=> thanks for your help. modprobe snd-ca0106 it replies nothing
[13:02] <lifestream> ruggero: it's good, it replied nothing
[13:02] <ruggero> I do not know the meaning of "modprobe" command. I am googling that now
[13:02] <lifestream> ruggero:  type in a terminal:   whatis modprobe
[13:03] <lifestream> and it will tell you
[13:03] <OerHeks> man modprobe
[13:03] <rohith_> Please help me any one eith a IEEE account to download a article
[13:03] <jrib> !ot | rohith_
[13:03] <ruggero> lifestream => cool !
[13:03] <lifestream> Hehe :-)
[13:03] <fermat> Hello world!
[13:04] <rohith_> Its urgent @jrib :( i know its not the right place :(\
[13:04] <sipior> rohith_: that's really not our problem.
[13:04] <paul_> would anyone be willing to helpa  newb out with installing a driver?
[13:04] <jrib> rohith_: then you shouldn't ask here if you know it's not the right place.  I suggest you speak with your advisors, teachers, and librarians.  They can help you obtain the article
[13:05] <ech0s7> hi i have a problem with java application, i see only one program icon in application bar if i launch different java applications...
[13:06] <rohith_> jrib: K
[13:06] <ruggero> lifestream=> modprobe -l |grep 0106 gives me modprobe -l |grep 0106
[13:06] <ruggero> kernel/sound/pci/ca0106/snd-ca0106.ko
[13:07] <ruggero> this means my card is installed properly ?
[13:08] <cumshot> hoi
[13:08] <lifestream> i'm not sure!  maybe someone else can take it from here. i don't know too much ^^
[13:08] <ssureshot> are pretty much all usb pci cards compatible these days?
[13:08] <ruggero> but I still have no sound, and still gnome-volume-control hungs in "connection failed, reconnecting...."
[13:08] <madc|SPYnX> not yet ssureshot
[13:08] <ruggero> Ok thanks a lot, lifestream !
[13:08] <madc|SPYnX> there isn't more binary yet for some PCI
[13:09] <JohnMurrayUK> Trying to find if Ubuntu supports hot add cpu and memory (if running as a vm guest).  Couldn't see anything in the documentation.  Any ideas? TIA
[13:09] <ssureshot> madc|SPYnX: ah not what I expected to hear but Ill make sure the product specifies linux then.. thank you sir
[13:09] <cumshot> hello someone talking here
[13:10] <rohith_> Please help me any one with a IEEE account to download a article
[13:10] <jrib> rohith_: do you want to be banneD?
[13:10] <sipior> rohith_: seriously, it's off-topic here.
[13:10] <rohith_> ok dont ban me
[13:10] <navwey> bye all
[13:10] <jrib> rohith_: then please stop asking here
[13:10] <rohith_> :(
[13:10] <ruggero> hi c**shot, please change your nick or you risk to be banned.
[13:11] <cumshot> oke
[13:12] <lifestream> ruggero:   have you seen   http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8123889&postcount=3
[13:12] <ruggero> c**shot=> /nick newnickname
[13:12] <Pumpkin-> JohnMurrayUK: it does. VMware have a document on it, I know that. I'm not sure on other virtualisation technologies, but it seems pretty generic to me. http://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-10493
[13:12] <Shvonder> rohith_: As I know about IEEE (I haven't succeed in the deal too) you shoud buy the article you need before download it.
[13:12] <ruggero> thanks lifestream, I'll have a look right now
[13:13] <Pumpkin-> (for CPU's anyway)
[13:13] <dcorbin_wrk> Is there good tool for taking (and restoring) complete disk images of an ubuntu system?
[13:13] <lifestream> dd ?
[13:13] <DynamicFail> sipior, the program would only need an interactive shell if it required input wouldn't it?
[13:13] <ruggero> lifestream, yes I did that before. I reinstalled alsa, purged alsa and pulseaudio. I did many things.
[13:14] <Shvonder> lifestream: +1
[13:14] <lifestream> +1 ?
[13:14] <dcorbin_wrk> lifestream: I know dd can do it, but I was wondering if there was something more advanced.
[13:15] <ThinkT510> !cloning | dcorbin_wrk
[13:15] <sipior> DynamicFail: or expected to dump output there, yes. since i have no idea which particular program we're talking about, i thought i'd start throwing out ideas.
[13:15] <sipior> dcorbin_wrk: partimage is exceptionally good for what you want to do.
[13:15] <dcorbin_wrk> ThinkT510: Thanks, but I'm not talking about the packages.  I mean the entire disk, as-is, byte-for-byte.
[13:15] <ThinkT510> !backup | dcorbin_wrk
[13:18] <stianhj> Will installing gnome-shell break something in my regular Ubuntu (10.04)? or can I just switch cleanly in gdm? and is there an up-to-date ppa for lucid?
[13:18] <JohnMurrayUK> Pumpkin: I have seen the articles about how to do it, but I just wondered whether it was 'supported'.  I can also do it in CentOS, but they don't 'support' it http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.5/technical-notes/Known_Issues-kernel.html
[13:20] <DynamicFail> sipior, can you think of alternatives to crontab that would allow me to start my file on boot?
[13:20] <sipior> DynamicFail: sure, add it to /etc/rc.local or the like.
[13:21] <Pumpkin-> JohnMurrayUK: ahh, good question. Depends on what definition of "supported". Supported as in has been developed to work, sure. Supported as in Canonical will support you, ask then :)
[13:22] <davidw> any ideas of what to look into to try some kernel upgrades in the hopes of fixing this intermittent suspend bug?
[13:23] <DynamicFail> sipior, but isn't rc.local still cron?
[13:23] <sipior> DynamicFail: no.
[13:23] <sipior> DynamicFail: do you need the program to run at regular intervals?
[13:24] <JohnMurrayUK> Pumpkin: Thanks buddy.  As long as they don't say they don't eh?  Wish me luck
[13:24] <Pumpkin-> "it is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission". Not sure if this applies :)
[13:25] <DynamicFail> sipior, nope... just when my computer starts.
[13:25] <sipior> DynamicFail: well, there you go.
[13:25] <DynamicFail> sipior, it runs constantly. Currently I create a log file, but I'm thinking about having it run with screen so I can check on my script every now and again.
[13:26] <DynamicFail> sipior, I haven't been able to find a good link on how to set it up to work with rc.local any good links?
[13:27] <sipior> DynamicFail: it's just a shell script. add what you want run to it (before the "exit 0" statement, obviously)
[13:27] <DynamicFail> sipior, awesome. thanks
[13:27] <JohnMurrayUK> True.  Thanks for your help.
[13:28] <MarconM> is there ubuntu 11.10 for download yet
[13:28] <MarconM> ?
[13:28] <DynamicFail> sipior, how do you get something to run with root rights though?
[13:28] <sipior> DynamicFail: the script will be run as the superuser.
[13:28] <DynamicFail> sipior, well actually let me amend my question... how do I get it to run with mixed rights
[13:28] <ThinkT510> MarconM: the next release is 11.04, when that is released 11.10 will be worked on
[13:29] <DynamicFail> sipior, I have about 8 scripts that need to start. 1 has to be root, the others can't be root as they involve vlc and vlc wont' run with root privilege.
[13:29] <knightstalker> Hello,I own a Dell vostro 3300,and ubuntu 9.10 has a good brightness,but ubuntu 10.10 on same device doesn't have the same brightness potential,I can control the brightness but the MAX brightness is still so low,any ideas?
[13:29] <knightstalker> Might it be because of graphics driver or smth?
[13:29] <jlselect> im very new to ubuntu and have been reading ubuntu unleashed..is there any other books that you guys would recommend??
[13:30] <DJones> !manual | jlselect
[13:30] <sipior> DynamicFail: you can use "su" or "sudo -u" to change the run user.
[13:30] <knightstalker> anyways,brightness is fine until you finally login
[13:30] <jlselect> thank you
[13:31] <DynamicFail> sipior, you mean within the script?
[13:31] <sipior> DynamicFail: yes
[13:31] <MarconM> ThinkT510, ok ... but i can to make download, this realease, for test
[13:31] <knightstalker> MarconM,#ubuntu+1
[13:32] <MarconM> knightstalker, ???
[13:32] <ThinkT510> !11.04 | MarconM
[13:32] <DynamicFail> sipior, interesting. Thank you for your help. I'm off to go try the changes.
[13:32] <sipior> DynamicFail: good luck
[13:32] <MarconM> ThinkT510, i want to help in translation ubuntu
[13:32] <MarconM> how i can ?
[13:32] <ruggero> I am doing sudo chown -R foldername username:username, no errors but nothings happens.
[13:33] <ohzie> ruggero: sudo chorn -R username:groupname foldername
[13:33] <ohzie> chown*
[13:33] <ohzie> ruggero: and that doesn't change the permissions of the files, just the owners
[13:33] <buschwusch> herro, i'm about to install ubuntu on my mbp, yay. will the installer allow me a full encrypted install?
[13:33] <ohzie> ruggero: which sometimes changes the way permissions are applied
[13:34] <ThinkT510> MarconM: https://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/ubuntu-translators
[13:34] <ohzie> buschwusch: I think you can just encrypt yourhome partition
[13:34] <buschwusch> i haven't found a up to date guide for macbooks :(
[13:34] <ohzie> buschwusch: for ecrypting everything you should look at-
[13:34] <buschwusch> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1595449&highlight=encrypt
[13:34] <ohzie> buschwusch: Oh macs
[13:34] <buschwusch> yeah
[13:34] <buschwusch> efi
[13:34] <roknir> if i have a drive (/dev/sdc) that's wholly encrypted with truecrypt, is there a way i can find a UUID for it or can i only get a UUID for the partition (/dev/sdc1) once mounting with truecrypt?
[13:34] <ohzie> buschwusch: gpg?
[13:34] <ohzie> buschwusch: or is that only within macos?
[13:35] <ruggero> thanks ohzie. I think I messed up my system. Yesterday I moved my home folder to another disk. Now I　have a new Home folder, but it is now root:root. And sounds are gone and cant fix that.
[13:35] <ohzie> buschwusch: Or maybe truecrypt can boot a gpg now, lol
[13:35] <buschwusch> eh, i'm about to ditch osx :)
[13:35] <MarconM> ThinkT510, thanks man
[13:35] <ThinkT510> MarconM: np
[13:35] <ohzie> ruggero: Oh man I'm sorry. My recommendation is create a new usernam,e
[13:35] <ohzie> username**
[13:35] <ohzie> and copy over the bits from your home folder that you want to keep
[13:35] <ruggero> really?
[13:36] <ruggero> (your messages appears to me in red. How did you do that?)
[13:36] <ohzie> ruggero: If your system is borked because you screwed up your home folder? Yeah
[13:36] <ohzie> ruggero: A new username = a new home folder = problem should correct itself
[13:36] <ThinkT510> ruggero: it's in red because he mentioned your nick
[13:36] <red> ruggero: red color ooo
[13:36] <ohzie> ruggero: I don't know why my text is red but it's probably hilighting because I'm using your nick. =P
[13:36] <ruggero> (ahhh. Its automatic, thanks)
[13:37] <dscastro> hi.. how can i set gamma on ubuntu
[13:37] <Yeshie> Looking for general help, ran sfill - created a 60gig file - it finished running after two days - but now my system says it has 0 bytes on it. I did a sudo rm oooooooo.ooo - seemed to do nothing - I did a Ctrl-C exit and it says now I have 40gigs free
[13:37] <ruggero> (its probably a setting of my Xchat)
[13:37] <Yeshie> any idea why I lost 20gigs?
[13:37] <ohzie> Yeshie: It went on holiday.
[13:37] <ohzie> Yeshie: =)
[13:37] <ruggero> ohzie, I try now to create a new homefolder. You mean I just create a new user, is that what you mean ?
[13:38] <ohzie> ruggero: Yes
[13:38] <ohzie> Yeshie: df -h <--Can you tell where it might have gone from there?
[13:38] <ruggero> ok doing that ohzie
[13:38] <buschwusch> eh, i'm just gonna try it, thanks ohzie
[13:38] <buschwusch> i can always do a full encrypted install later
[13:38] <ohzie> buschwusch: good luck!
[13:38] <student> how can I know to which /dev/ttySx is my device connected to_
[13:38] <buschwusch> for now an encrypted home partition should suffice
[13:39] <buschwusch> :)
[13:39] <Yeshie> oops, looks like I was an idiot - it's jus tstill deleting itself, now I'm up to 43...I guess it'll climb
[13:40] <ruggero> ohzie, now I log out and test if sound works, but I doubt it. See you later and Thxs
[13:40] <kish> i have usbmon dump.. is there any good front end tool to analyze the dump?
[13:41] <sipior> student: can you read or write to/from the device?
[13:42] <sipior> student: also, i believe setserial will do some (limited) probing.
[13:42] <student> sipior, its a GPS serial device, I am plugging it, but how do I know to which /dev/ttySx it is connected to?
[13:42] <Keyvan_> hi, dioes anyone know how to solve black screen problem in ubuntu 10.10 loading in a vaio laptop?
[13:42] <Keyvan_> hi, dioes anyone know how to solve black screen problem in ubuntu 10.10 loading in a vaio laptop?
[13:43] <sipior> student: dmesg might report the information. failing that, easier just to try each device (there are only four of them)
[13:43] <jwtiyar> i cant boot from usB mULTI-CARD WHY?
[13:43] <Keyvan_> hi, does anyone know how to solve black screen problem in ubuntu 10.10 loading in a vaio laptop?
[13:43] <student> sipior, let me check dmesg
[13:44] <jwtiyar> i cant boot from usB mULTI-CARD WHY?
[13:44] <n2i> hi all! http://www.imagesk.com/PEyWkBcw.png http://www.imagesk.com/?i=iokVt6z8.png http://i.imgur.com/IIm45.png
[13:45] <sipior> jwtiyar: were you planning on giving us more information, or were you hoping we could guess the cause of your problems through some sort of necromancy?
[13:45] <n2i> Please look at these pictures. What is problem which is my HDD has got?
[13:46] <hateball> n2i: it's aging and about to fail
[13:46] <jwtiyar> sipior, what does that mean?
[13:47] <sipior> jwtiyar: forget it.
[13:47] <ThinkT510> !details | jwtiyar
[13:48] <n2i> hateball: :(
[13:50] <jwtiyar> ThinkT510, i burned ubuntu lts to my usb sd-card , and going to booting it from bios its shows the usb its stoped in grup
[13:51] <n2i> bb!
[13:51] <jwtiyar> ThinkT510, i burned ubuntu lts to my usb sd-card , and going to booting it from bios its shows the usb its stoped in grup
[13:52] <ThinkT510> jwtiyar: i saw your post and am thinking
[13:52] <jwtiyar> ThinkT510, sorry
[13:53] <ThinkT510> jwtiyar: so it boots the usb stick, maybe the grub info is setup wrong
[13:54] <jlselect> what do you mean by grub?
[13:54] <jwtiyar> ThinkT510, its stopped in that line that has (-)
[13:54] <ThinkT510> jlselect: grub is the boot loader
[13:55] <ThinkT510> !grub2 | jlselect
[13:55] <jlselect> thanks
[13:55] <ThinkT510> jwtiyar: can you select any entries in the grub menu?
[13:56] <jwtiyar> ThinkT510, its black windows just the symbol - turn on and off
[13:57] <ThinkT510> jwtiyar: hmm, so it doesn't even show grub?
[13:57] <jwtiyar> ThinkT510, iits seems no
[13:57] <ThinkT510> jwtiyar: what did you use to install ubuntu to the stick?
[13:58] <jwtiyar> ThinkT510, usb maker on my other ubuntu 10.10
[13:58] <ThinkT510> jwtiyar: has it worked before on that stick?
[13:58] <jwtiyar> ThinkT510, sorry also in 10.4.1. LTS
[13:59] <jwtiyar> ThinkT510, i didnt used usb sdcard but its worked with my other usb like my apple and sony
[14:00] <ThinkT510> jwtiyar: ah, so its a usb sdcard reader?
[14:00] <jwtiyar> ThinkT510, yes via card reader
[14:01] <ThinkT510> jwtiyar: i'm not sure if they work the same as an ordinary usb stick install
[14:03] <NET||abuse> hey there folks, anyone use terminator?
[14:03] <NET||abuse> i'm finding i'm closing things with ctrl+shift+W  too often
[14:03] <NET||abuse> can i customize the keybindings?
[14:03] <NET||abuse> nvm, found it!!
[14:04] <BluesKaj> NET||abuse, ask in #ubuntu
[14:04] <elFidel> NET||abuse: there is a terminator channel
[14:04] <Pici> BluesKaj: /me looks around
[14:04] <ThinkT510> jwtiyar: after a little googleing it seems that it should work just like a usb install
[14:04] <NET||abuse> BluesKaj, lols..
[14:04] <jwtiyar> ThinkT510, i dont understand ..
[14:05] <BluesKaj> NET||abuse, :)
[14:05] <ThinkT510> jwtiyar: sorry i can't help more, never tried booting from sd cards
[14:05] <NET||abuse> jwtiyar, you have sdcard ubuntu install image setup yes?
[14:06] <jwtiyar> NET||abuse, yes
[14:06] <NET||abuse> jwtiyar, usb connected cardreader has absolutely no difference in functionality to a usb thumbdrive afaik
[14:06] <NET||abuse> jwtiyar, you want to install ubuntu from this cardreader?
[14:06] <red2kic> Using irssi in new terminal... terminator, how can I switch channels? ALT+LEFT/RIGHT does not work. :(
[14:06] <jwtiyar> NET||abuse, yes i want this
[14:06] <NET||abuse> jwtiyar, basically you motherboard has to support usb booting
[14:06] <NET||abuse> jwtiyar, so go into the bios of that machine and check if it can be enabled.
[14:07] <jwtiyar> NET||abuse, where is the option in bios?
[14:09] <liminal> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/stable/ubuntu maverick main is only giving me chromium 10.0.648.133 (77742) Ubuntu 10.10
[14:09] <jwtiyar> NET||abuse, there is no enable usb booting in boot tab?
[14:10] <Marg2010> Hello
[14:10] <liminal> but the latest version is in 12
[14:10] <Marg2010> need help with openoffice draw
[14:11] <ThinkT510> liminal: that is the latest development version
[14:13] <augustl> I created /etc/init/my-app.cnf. "start myapp" says "start: Unknown-job: myapp".
[14:13] <augustl> do I need to register it somewhere?
[14:13] <rohith_> Please help me any one with a IEEE account to download a article
[14:13] <unomas> hola, alguien me puede ayudar, tengo un pendrive de internet y me gustaria instalarlo en ubuntu, como puedo hacer, ya que los.exe no los acepta
[14:13] <samuelvasy> Hi. Does anybody know, that is there any possibility to replace Vino server with something better (faster)? It still need to work with Empathy "Share Desktop" feature.
[14:13] <DJones> rohith_: Thats offtopice for this channel, please don't ask for that
[14:14] <yuzodo> !es | unomas
[14:14] <unomas> gracias
[14:14] <billybob3> Hi. Got 2 problems with 10.04 of a sudden. 1-can't boot into revovery mode. and 2-the resolution of main screen has become hugely magnified-but can still access the terminal. I am chatting from ubuntu 9.04 here. Any help welcomed.
[14:15] <Benwa> !wiki parted
[14:15] <Benwa> fail :(
[14:15] <ThinkT510> !info parted | Benwa
[14:15] <augustl> I'll try again. "start myapp" says "start: Unknown-job: myapp", why is that?
[14:16] <Benwa> ThinkT510: thanks
[14:16] <ThinkT510> np
[14:16] <Benwa> oops, i was looking for wiki pages about parted
[14:16] <Benwa> but at least i got info about the package now :)
[14:17] <ThinkT510> Benwa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Parted
[14:17] <ttomek> is there a way to get automatically fonts size change when i connect monitor through vga-out in my laptop?
[14:17] <Benwa> is there a shortcut for the bot to serch for me/us ?
[14:17] <Benwa> *search
[14:18] <billybob3> Hi. Got 2 problems with 10.04 of a sudden. 1-can't boot into revovery mode. and 2-the resolution of main screen has become hugely magnified-but can still access the terminal. I am chatting from ubuntu 9.04 here. Any help welcomed.
[14:18] <ThinkT510> Benwa: sorry, not sure but you can check out the bot's brain
[14:19] <ThinkT510> !bot | Benwa
[14:19] <Benwa> thankx :)
[14:19] <Benwa> *s
[14:21] <malekan> salam
[14:21] <billybob3> Hi. Got 2 problems with 10.04 of a sudden. 1-can't boot into revovery mode. and 2-the resolution of main screen has become hugely magnified-but can still access the terminal. I am chatting from ubuntu 9.04 here. Any help welcomed.
[14:21] <jwtiyar> malekan,selam sarchaw its english iRC
[14:24] <billybob3> Screen resolution has gone huge but can still access terminal. Unable to access recovery mode. Is there a way of getting the screen resolution down using the terminal?
[14:24] <JTS000ID> Is there a generic library to control Monitor mirroring through Java/C++/or any other language
[14:25] <SGTEAM> hello
[14:25] <billybob3> hello yes hello
[14:25] <JTS000ID> billybob3, I guess I came across a blog which talked about configuring your video cards and default resolution..can't remember though..
[14:25] <erUSUL> JTS000ID: Xrandr (3)
[14:25] <JTS000ID> erUSUL, sorry?
[14:25] <erUSUL> JTS000ID: if you have dev man pages. « man 3 Xrandr »
[14:26] <JTS000ID> o cool..thanks
[14:26] <raymondjtoth2> hi how i do internet time in new ubuntu?
[14:26] <raymondjtoth2> any idea if want internet time see nothing there
[14:26] <billybob3> JTS000ID-I need to do it in terminal as screen is way too large to use.
[14:26] <erUSUL> raymondjtoth2: in the date and time conf dialog you can set the timeserver
[14:26] <raymondjtoth2> err were that
[14:27] <raymondjtoth2> under whar erusul
[14:27] <JTS000ID> billybob3, yes u can do that through terminal..by simply editing that file through gedit or vi
[14:28] <JTS000ID> but i didn't bookmark that link..search for something like "video card file on ubuntu" or something like that
[14:28] <erUSUL> raymondjtoth2: System>Admin>date an time or some such ( my ubuntu is not in english )
[14:28] <raymondjtoth2> o ok
[14:28] <erUSUL> in terminal you can use xrandr 8 the command ) ?
[14:28] <littlejakub> hey all ;)
[14:29] <billybob3> JTS000ID- sorry, which file do you mean?
[14:29] <erUSUL> raymondjtoth2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[14:29] <littlejakub> got a question to anyone who might know if apple universal dock could be used as an infrared receiver for apple remote under ubuntu 10.10? :) cheers
[14:29] <billybob3> erUSUL - will that work?
[14:29] <JTS000ID> it's a file that contains information regarding video cards connected, etc.
[14:30] <JTS000ID> or perhaps u should try what erUSUL is saying..mine is a very vague solution
[14:30] <erUSUL> billybob3: if you have an nvidia graphic card it wont for the others it should
[14:30] <ttomek> littlejakub: throw your apple products through the window and never look back for them anymore.
[14:30] <billybob3> JTS00ID- ha ha ha ha
[14:31] <littlejakub> ttomek: haha, well- I like the sound quality on an iPod, and if I have the stuff- why not try to use it under Ubuntu? :)
[14:31] <littlejakub> ttomek: really curious if I could make use of it...
[14:31] <billybob3> erUSUL-you take me up and now you let me down ha ha ha yes I do have an nvidia card!
[14:32] <littlejakub> so... anyone knows if Apple Universal Dock could be used with LIRC? :>
[14:33] <piken> Does anyone know of a way to get a list of all package dependencies including the dependencies of those dependencies?
[14:33] <piken> for example, build-essential package list and their dependencies.
[14:35] <dscastro> hi.. how can i set correct gamma for lg flatron 19" and intel card?
[14:35] <JTS000ID> billybob3, i guess the file was called xorg.conf..
[14:35] <billybob3> erUSUL-xrandr is on my 9.04 system
[14:36] <billybob3> JTS000ID-thought that didn't exist in Ubuntu 10.04
[14:36] <erUSUL> billybob3: how did you installed the driver for that nvidia card?
[14:36] <JTS000ID> hmm i doubt that cuz i saw it couple of days ago
[14:36] <MarconM> who use unity on ubuntu ?
[14:36] <MarconM> is stable ... i can to use
[14:37] <billybob3> erUSUL -with help from here. But the resolution changed when I decided to delete the nouveau driver
[14:37] <JTS000ID> erUSUL, just want to make sure..can u control mirroring between attached monitors through xrandr...sorry i just want to make sure that i am reading the right stuff
[14:37] <scoundrel50> I want to change the ending .JPG to .jog there is acommand I ws given, but I cant seem to find it now, can somebody tell me what it is?
[14:37] <scoundrel50> plus does anybody know if #ubuntu-uk is working, I have been trying all day to ues get on it and nothing happens.
[14:37] <erUSUL> billybob3: but you remember what you did at the end? did you used the *.run file from nvidia.com site?
[14:37] <DJones> scoundrel50: What happens when you try to get into -uk
[14:37] <orchidlucky> 有中国人吗
[14:38] <ThinkT510> !zh | orchidlucky
[14:38] <llutz> scoundrel50: rename 's/JPG/jog' *.JPG
[14:38] <orchidlucky> I am chinese
[14:38] <erUSUL> JTS000ID: Xrandr - X Resize, Rotate and Reflection extension. i think Reflection == Mirroring dont you think ?
[14:38] <llutz> scoundrel50: u guess you want /jpg/
[14:39] <orchidlucky> what want
[14:39] <JTS000ID> I believe so...ok will look into it..thanks
[14:39] <DJones> scoundrel50: It looks like you're in the -uk channel
[14:39] <billybob3> erUSUL-em I didn't manually install that driver but another version of it apparently with help from here
[14:39] <philipholland> s
[14:39] <philipholland> hello need some help -I'm rather elderly
[14:40] <scoundrel50> Is anybody around?
[14:40] <erUSUL> billybob3: well it would help to know what exactly you ended up doing...
[14:41] <philipholland> hello can anyone hel;p with a problem?
[14:41] <j_ayen_green> where is the php5 executable directory in lucid? I'm trying to get xdebug working in phpstorm, and it's asking me for the php home directory and I can't find it
[14:41] <sipior> philipholland: best just to ask the question directly.
[14:41] <fanthomas> how can I log processes which are accessing the CD-ROM? (or files on CD-ROM?)
[14:42] <nisarg> please ask questions directly
[14:42] <billybob3> erUSUL-yes it would I agree. But my notes are on the other system that I am trying to access -I'm chatting here from ubuntu 9.04 but I will go back and try xrandr-in fact I may test it on here to see if it works despite what you said.
[14:42] <remco__> Hi, has anyone an idea why I cant download a file to any folder with Firefox ? it states that it doesnt have the permission to do so, even in folders with 777 rights
[14:43] <philipholland> OK thanks.  I am running ubuntu inside xp.But after installing acronis on xp ubuntu would't restart.I took acronis out of XP and it still wouldnt work.My wife has important documents in ubuntu can I etirve them -I can't find teh files
[14:43] <sipior> philipholland: what's acronis, exactly?
[14:43] <j_ayen_green> ah, found it
[14:44] <philipholland> Sipior acronis is a disk backup system
[14:44] <JTS000ID> erUSUL, I believe xRandR is an open-source project..
[14:44] <sipior> philipholland: and how are you running ubuntu? via virtualbox?
[14:45] <sipior> philipholland: or was this a wubi install?
[14:45] <philipholland> Isipior - I dont know My grandson installed it directly into XP
[14:45] <nado> servus
[14:45] <philipholland> sipior I'm using xp now
[14:46] <philipholland> I think it is wubi
[14:46] <madmax_x> hello world i got a nice easy question for you all...how do i make my network restart after 2 min. if there is no dhcp server responce
[14:46] <sipior> philipholland: and what error is reported when you try starting ubuntu?
[14:46] <madmax_x> i tried the dhcp retry in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[14:46] <erUSUL> billybob3: i would; move the xorg.conf file out of the way and reboot. « sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.nvidia} »
[14:47] <philipholland> sipior I cant remember -i tried loading it on safe mode and ran some sort fo repair file command but it made it worse.
[14:48] <sipior> philipholland: hmm. the error message would be useful; difficult to guess at the problem without it.
[14:49] <philipholland> sipior. I can rerun eevrything but I just need to get my wifes files out of teh hard drive-where would I find them?
[14:49] <sipior> philipholland: this might be of some use: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=436923
[14:50] <sipior> philipholland: there are also some troubleshooting tips on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[14:51] <sipior> philipholland: in particular, point 8.14 looks like it might be useful to you.
[14:51] <enrjocky> so this is IRC.... cool lol
[14:51] <billybob3> erUSUL-and what happens when I do that? Is there an xorg.conf file there? I mean it's Ubuntu 10.04
[14:52] <enrjocky> complete and utter failure of a noob here.....can anyone see this?
[14:52] <erUSUL> billybob3: hopefully the machine will boot to a more sane failsafe video mode
[14:52] <sipior> enrjocky: yep.
[14:52] <madmax_x> enrjocky, ask your question
[14:53] <enrjocky> sweet, where would i go to learn how to use this effectively?
[14:53] <enrjocky> IRC i mean
[14:53] <madmax_x> google
[14:53] <enrjocky> kk
[14:53] <enrjocky> thank you
[14:53] <madmax_x> enrjocky, http://www.mirc.com/ircintro.html
[14:54] <enrjocky> thanks madmax
[14:54] <madmax_x> np
[14:54] <billybob3> erUSUL-ok -I was able to access recovery mode but now I just get a black screen when I try to boot into recovery mode.
[14:55] <philipholland> thank you sipior
[14:55] <sipior> philipholland: hope it helps!
[14:55] <erUSUL> billybob3: so you can not do what i asked? i thought you could access command line ( normal boot and then alt + crtl + f1 ) ?
[14:55] <enrjocky> ......i have found the heaven of chatting protocols...
[14:56] <Pici> enrjocky: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.  If you just want to chat you may /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:56] <enrjocky> oh ok sorry
[14:56] <liminal> my applications keep crashing due to Segmentation faults
[14:56] <liminal> any ideas on the causes?
[14:56] <DThought> liminal: all applications?
[14:57] <liminal> seemlying so.
[14:57] <liminal> some worse than others
[14:57] <DThought> liminal: hardware issues. Cooling. Ram errors. Cpu Errors
[14:57] <dany123456> buon giorno a tutti
[14:57] <madmax_x> so i have a race condition here with my network ...after a power failure.... my ubuntu box boots before the dhcp server does...is there a way to have nm-applet or /etc/networking auto retry dhcp after a timed delay?
[14:57] <Pici> !it | dany123456
[14:57] <dany123456> !list
[14:58] <liminal> cooling my cpu temp is below 40
[14:58] <billybob3> erUSUL-yes I can just about use the terminal in the hugely magnified screen in normal boot mode. But I can't access the recovery screen. I will try what you said.
[14:58] <navwey> how to see system info in terminal?
[14:58] <arch_nme> hi, I need to get a document to file to a file from firefox under ubuntu 10.10, can anyone assist me with this, the only option that comes up when I select print from within this web app is a printer that I used to have attached to this laptop??
[14:58] <liminal> ram wise ive memory checked okay and changed sticks regardless
[14:58] <dany123456> nessuno parla italiano???????????
[14:58] <ThinkT510> !it | dany123456
[14:58] <elFidel> dany123456: try #ubuntu.it
[14:58] <DThought> liminal: sorry, no further ideas
[14:59] <dany123456> !it
[14:59] <elFidel> dany123456: try #ubuntu-it ;)
[14:59] <dany123456> grazie
[14:59] <Bucky> hola
[14:59] <sipior> liminal: try running an application under strace, and see what it spits out immediately prior to the segfault.
[14:59] <Bucky> buenas trdes
[15:00] <ThinkT510> !es | Bucky
[15:00] <elFidel> hehe
[15:01] <billybob3> erUSUL - thanks. Am going to try it now.
[15:01] <erUSUL> billybob3: no problem
[15:01] <liminal> what is strace and how to do that?
[15:01] <elFidel> liminal: you might wanna start with: "man strace" in terminal
[15:01] <Bucky> hola , me gustaria cambiar la resolucion de mi pantalla , pero el problema es ke la ke elijo , no se me keda  , cuadno einicio desaparece , meti en comando para listarlas y no me aparecia en la lista , eso es porke mi grafica no la soporta ¿?  gracias
[15:01] <elFidel> !es | Bucky
[15:01] <sipior> liminal: try "sudo apt-get install strace", and then "sudo strace <program>".
[15:02] <MarconM> who use unity desktop ?
[15:02] <sipior> liminal: there will be a fair bit of output; consider redirecting it to a file with tee or the like: "sudo strace <program> | tee <logfile>
[15:02] <Joewoodworker> Hello, virgin Ubuntu user here
[15:03] <elFidel> MarconM: how about asking a real unity-question?
[15:03] <elFidel> just repeating a question nobody reacted too seems to be non-perfect ;)
[15:03] <liminal> thanks sipior running it now
[15:03] <ThinkT510> Joewoodworker: need help?
[15:04] <Joewoodworker> Yeah, quite a bit it seems
[15:04] <MarconM> elFidel, is not a question .. i wanna know what you think about it
[15:04] <arch_nme> Anyone know how to change my default printer to print to file in FF?
[15:04] <ThinkT510> Joewoodworker: what seems to be the problem?
[15:04] <drcode> hi all
[15:04] <elFidel> MarconM: than ask that ;)
[15:04] <MarconM> gnome or unity deskop
[15:04] <arch_nme> or even in general?
[15:04] <drcode> how can I put pre-release in source.list?
[15:04] <AntiSociaL> hellllo
[15:04] <drcode> I dont have gui only console
[15:05] <Joewoodworker> Well, first off...getting windows SW to run in Ubuntu
[15:06] <MarconM> who use unity desktop ... ??
[15:06] <ThinkT510> !wine | Joewoodworker
[15:06] <OerHeks> !poll | MarconM
[15:07] <Pici> drcode: Are you asking how to upgrade to Natty?
[15:07] <Bucky> sorry ubottu
[15:07] <liminal> sipior it just crashed with strace running - it seems to check the system clock alot not sure what that means
[15:07] <liminal> http://pastebin.com/yNtQddZ8
[15:07] <Bucky> :P
[15:08] <drcode> no
[15:08] <drcode> I have marvic
[15:08] <sipior> liminal: what were you running?
[15:08] <ghisen> Hi, i had problems removing fglrx... so i removed every line with fglrx in var/lib/dpkg/diversions as google said... but now i get an other error instead..  conflicting diversions involving `/branding-ubuntu' or `/usr/share/dockmanager/data/skype_dnd.svg'
[15:08] <liminal> chromium
[15:08] <Roasted_> Is it possible to remove individual Ubuntu updates?
[15:08] <liminal> the web  browser
[15:09] <madmax_x>  so i have a race condition here with my network ...after a power failure.... my ubuntu box boots before the dhcp server does...is there a way to have nm-applet or /etc/networking auto retry dhcp after a timed delay?
[15:09] <sipior> liminal: seems fairly random. does the same thing happen if you run applications from a live cd?
[15:09] <JuJuBee> Is it possible to set a desktop picture and not allow users to change it?
[15:09] <arch_nme> can anyone tell me where the printer settings are located from the GUI?
[15:09] <elFidel> Roasted_: it is possible to remove single packages if thats your question
[15:09] <liminal> ive not tried.. what would it prove?
[15:10] <Roasted_> elFidel, yeah. I had to remove some windows updates yesterday from my w7 box to get back nvidia functionality (don't ask, I have no idea). And I got to wondering if you can remove individual updates with ubuntu as well.
[15:10] <erUSUL> JuJuBee: search in google for « gnome lockdown kiosk mode »
[15:10] <Dannyd> Hi, I installed sl, then $sudo apt-get --purge remove sl, after that when I type sl, it dosent list the packages it may be in, it just says "not in /usr/bin/games", how do i completely remove a package??
[15:11] <drcode> Pici, pre-released is only for upgrade? I have installed ubuntu 10.10
[15:11] <sipior> madmax_x: does increasing the timeout value in dhclient.conf help?
[15:11] <JuJuBee> erUSUL saame for kubuntu?  KDE lockdown...
[15:11] <ruan> hey. how do i record from my speakers? sound recorder stalls at 0 seconds, and audacity records at an extremely low volume which i have to amplify by 27.5 dB just to barely hear
[15:11] <elFidel> Roasted_: it is possible to remove single packages if thats your question. apt will handle the dependencies. So in general possible - but its related with package-dependencies
[15:11] <Dannyd> i installed by apt-get install sl
[15:11] <erUSUL> JuJuBee: yes
[15:11] <drcode> but I have problem with an old nvidia and xorg driver
[15:11] <fanthomas> where does xfce in ubutu get the available graphic modes from? sometime the max resolution in xrandr is 1024x600 which is correct and sometimes only 800x600
[15:11] <erUSUL> JuJuBee: also ask in #kubuntu ?
[15:11] <genii-around> madmax_x: You could try setting in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf  the variables: retry, timeout, and select-timeout  to higher values
[15:11] <drcode> I read that nvidia mx200 not working well with ubuntu 10.10
[15:12] <scoundrel50> llutz: sorry just found this now, I couldnt see any activity in here earlier. I have now managed to get it working, I was shown this command rename 's/\.JPG$/.jpg/' *.JPG that changed them all. Thank you. I wasnt ignoring you, I just couldnt see you.
[15:12] <sipior> liminal: the idea is to see if the problem lies with the system as installed, or with your hardware.
[15:12] <brian> hello?
[15:12] <brian> anyone there?
[15:12] <enrjocky> #
[15:12] <beacher> I have a problem : the chromium browser plugin(flash) crashed. Why?
[15:12] <erUSUL> !ask | Guest13990
[15:13] <madmax_x> sipor, genii-around, i tried the retry setting but it doesnt seem to apply when using nm-applet to manage the network...it still sits "down" until i physically interact with it and tell nm-applet to try 'auto eth0'
[15:13] <Guest13990> is anyone available to help me  out here?
[15:13] <ruan> Guest13990: yes...
[15:13] <Roasted_> elFidel, how would you go about that? Like if I found a specific update that was causing an issue, where are the individual updates stored?
[15:13] <madmax_x> wassup Guest13990
[15:13] <Dannyd> bump on the apt-get --purge remove question
[15:13] <sipior> Guest13990: usual protocol is to ask a question first.
[15:13] <Guest13990> I am having trouble with my sound
[15:13] <ruan> hey. how do i record from my speakers? sound recorder and audacity aren't working properly
[15:14] <Guest13990> it used to work but I couldn't get headphones to work so I installed drivers and now nothing
[15:14] <liminal> live cd still uses hardware.. just not harddrives
[15:14] <Roasted_> elFidel, like if I updated with 10 new updates and I have a problem, how would I get those 10 updates out?
[15:14] <elFidel> Roasted_: it's all package based - so check Ubuntu-software-center or synaptic to handle packages
[15:14] <liminal> and ive changed the harddrive
[15:14] <ruan> liminal: livecd can still mount harddrives
[15:14] <Roasted_> elFidel, so 10 updates = 10 packages?
[15:14] <Dannyd> Hi, I installed sl, then $sudo apt-get --purge remove sl, after that when I type sl, it dosent list the packages it may be in, it just says "not in /usr/bin/games", how do i completely remove a package??
[15:15] <sipior> madmax_x: the interfaces man page implies that the individual application config files are used for dhcp services. do you perhaps have multiple dhcp clients installed?
[15:15] <liminal> so what would running ubuntu from the livecd tell me.. my guess it still would crash
[15:15] <ruan> Dannyd: reinstall it then uninstall it
[15:15] <elFidel> Roasted_: i dont know what you mean - as you are still talking about updates ;)
[15:15] <Dannyd> so that it was in the state b4 the package was installed
[15:15] <sipior> liminal: the idea is to see if system ram is a problem.
[15:15] <Roasted_> elFidel, you're saying updates are package based. Does that mean if I get 10 updates, there are 10 new packages in synaptic?
[15:15] <sipior> liminal: or perhaps a misconfigured installation.
[15:15] <liminal> live cd uses ram more right? so it would crash more?
[15:15] <elFidel> Roasted_: in theory you could try removing/uninstalling those packages & then try to install the old versions again.
[15:16] <sipior> liminal: no.
[15:16] <liminal> live cd doesnt use ram?
[15:16] <sipior> liminal: of course it does.
[15:16] <elFidel> but thats a) related with handling dpeendencies and for sure nothing a starter should do (from my point of view)
[15:16] <Roasted_> elFidel, so if I have an issue with an apache update, I can nuke apache --purge and reinstall and it should come back without the updates?
[15:16] <Guest13990> this is my first time here. I just installed ubuntu this weekend
[15:16] <elFidel> Roasted_: apt will offer the last version on reinstall - so it will most likely not fix that issue
[15:16] <OerHeks> liminal live cd boots slower, and uses ram. but it is as stable as an installated linux
[15:17] <madmax_x> sipior, i have a plain install of 10.04...nm-applet (networkmanager) controls it
[15:17] <liminal> im confused.. lets say I use a live cd and the system doesnt crash.. that would prove what?
[15:17] <Roasted_> elFidel, hm, I'm still a little lost on *how* its possible to remove an update then.
[15:17] <liminal> its my installation process not hardwarE?
[15:17] <brverg> i need help... can't seem to open my home folders. i get error msg "unable to open document, can't open directory
[15:17] <arch_nme> is there a way to add a print to file printer to my list of printers?
[15:18] <sipior> liminal: look, we're just trying to get another data point on your system's behaviour. try it, or don't try it, i don't really care.
[15:18] <liminal> its not my system tho is it.. its a live cd
[15:19] <Guest13990> can anyone help me with getting my soundcard working properly?
[15:19] <sipior> liminal: we are trying to establish if your hardware is at fault.
[15:19] <naren_> can i edit login screen to my own
[15:19] <genii-around> madmax_x: Alternately, you could add a pre-start script stanza into /etc/init/network-manager.conf to check for a ping reply from dhcp server, wait a certain amount of seconds, try again until a reply, then continue only after a reply comes
[15:19] <sipior> liminal: i have explained this before.
[15:19] <ptte> liminal: Ofc you'd have to use the live cs on the same computer
[15:19] <ptte> *cd
[15:19] <OerHeks> Guest13990, do you hear a login sound at boot ?
[15:19] <Guest13990> yes
[15:19] <sipior> madmax_x: what happens if you configure the network interface through /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:20] <Guest13990> wait.......I'm not sure now
[15:20] <OerHeks> Guest13990, then your sound is oke, all you need is restricted extra's
[15:20] <liminal> sipior right.. so if its hardware your saying the livecd will still crash right?
[15:20] <OerHeks> !restricted
[15:20] <Guest13990> I did yesterday but then I tried installing a driver now I don't know
[15:20] <sipior> liminal: that's the idea.
[15:20] <madmax_x> genii-around, nice thank you illl look into thaat
[15:20] <cha0s2358> Hey guys I have a question that isn't directly Ubuntu related but I don't know where to ask so maybe someone cn either help me out anyway or point me in the right direction. I am running ubuntu 10.10 and my issue is with bandwidth allocation. I have high speed internet (3mbps down, .70mbps up) YET  when I am running "transmission" regardless of what speeds the download is running "even as low as 5kbps down" I can do NOTHING else o
[15:20] <cha0s2358> nline. web pages won't load etc. can anyone help me with this or point me in the right direction?
[15:20] <Guest13990> restricted extras?
[15:21] <madmax_x> genii-around, wait how can i ping if network started yet
[15:21] <ptte> cha0s2358: Are you sitting on a wireless connection?
[15:21] <OerHeks> cha0s2358, how about your upload with transmission ?
[15:22] <brverg> i need help... can't seem to open my home folders. i get error msg "unable to open document, can't open directory
[15:22] <kriume> why cant i use wireshark? when i press Interface List a little window opens and it says "description destination IP packets packets/S" and when i press ok, nothing more happends
[15:22] <cha0s2358> PTTE, i AM USING lAN connection
[15:22] <ruan> brverg: can you go to filesystem then /home?
[15:22] <ptte> cha0s2358: Does that mean you use a network cable?
[15:22] <cha0s2358> OerHeks, I have it limited to 5kbps upload
[15:22] <OerHeks> Guest13990, > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[15:22] <cha0s2358> ptte yes i use the ethernet cable
[15:23] <dschuett> what is the ubuntu server channel?
[15:23] <omenking> In osx I can go "open ." and will open the directory in a finder, how can I do the same in Gnome/Ubuntu?
[15:23] <ptte> cha0s2358: Have you been using the same router with other computers together with bt?
[15:23] <kriume> why cant i use wireshark? when i press Interface List a little window opens and it says "description destination IP packets packets/S" and when i press ok, nothing more happends
[15:23] <ThinkT510> !sever | dschuett
[15:23] <ThinkT510> !server | dschuett
[15:23] <sipior> cha0s2358: what's the *actual* amount of upload traffic. have you measured it? your downloads may be starved because return ACKs are not making it out.
[15:23] <Guest13990> hmm, I went to realtek and downloaded the linux drivers
[15:23] <genii-around> madmax_x: Sorry my brain is foggy, i forgot it's a chicken-egg thing. Does your /etc/network/interfaces file have an entry for that adapter?
[15:23] <heynow> hi all, quick question.. is there support for apple products... ie.. ipod/iphone
[15:23] <cha0s2358> ptte what do you mean?
[15:23] <arch_nme> is there a way to aadd a print to file printer to my printers
[15:24] <arch_nme> ??
[15:24] <ThinkT510> !ipod | heynow
[15:24] <ptte> cha0s2358: If you plug the same cord into some other random computer and run bittorrent, does that work?
[15:24] <cha0s2358> sipior the actual upload is limited to a total of 5kbps and my downloads run fine it is as if transmission is hogging everything
[15:24] <madmax_x> genii-around, no
[15:25] <madmax_x> auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[15:25] <ruan> cha0s2358: you could try another BT client and see if the problem persists
[15:25] <sipior> cha0s2358: so, you haven't measured it
[15:25] <heynow> thanks!
 no
[15:25] <cha0s2358> ptte the only other computers i have run win7 and use Utorrent and have no problems it's only with the transmission
[15:25] <archangelpetro> so, is there anything that works with Nvidia optimus yet? i heard about switcheroo, but i'm not sure that really addresses anything properlky
[15:25] <Noeltorious> ugh evolution not prompting me for a password, remember is unchecked and i tried hitting forget passwords just in case...any ideas?
[15:25] <cha0s2358> sipior how do you mean meassure it?
[15:25] <ptte> cha0s2358: Ok, then it's probably not the router dying
[15:25] <cha0s2358> no i just replaced the router
[15:25] <cha0s2358> ptte^
[15:25] <beacher> excuse me,my OS is ubuntu 10.10 , I want to change login window.Then i selection 'system'-->'administration'-->'login screen'.But don't changed.What should i do? My first language is chinese,English is not good.
[15:26] <ruan> beacher: there is a chinese support channel if you'd like to try there
[15:26] <cha0s2358> ptte that was my original assumption as well but it did not fix the issue
[15:26] <ThinkT510> !zh | beacher
[15:26] <beacher> thanks
[15:27] <cha0s2358> sipior i wasn't aware of measuring it, I always just went by what I had it limited to in transmission and what transmission told me it was running
[15:27] <archangelpetro> anyone?
[15:27] <archangelpetro> !nvidia | archangelpetro
[15:27] <coz_> archangelpetro,  I dont know ,,, I am not up with all of nvidia stuff at this point... did google turn anything up?
[15:27] <Guest13990> ok it tells me I need to uninstall two codec packs, but I can't find them
 sorry... yes i can acces my folders thru filesystem then /home. but i can acces those folders from Places
[15:28] <coz_> Guest13990,  which 2?
[15:28] <ruan> brverg: oh ok
[15:28] <Guest13990> Ffcodec pack
[15:28] <miloss> hey pople i instal ubunto 10.10 on hdd 320gb and when i lock on sistem there is only 268gb howe that ?
[15:28] <Guest13990> and I forgot the other one
[15:29] <archangelpetro> coz_: well the stuff is generally out of date, but it says optimus isn't supported by nvidia, and doesn't work with X.. but that was a few months back, i've heard about switcheroo, but not really sure what's going on there
 so what do i do? have i accidentally changed something? it worked fine b4
[15:29] <ptte> cha0s2358: Have you tried some other client in ubuntu?
[15:29] <cha0s2358> thats what I am about to do now, any recomendations? ptte
[15:29] <coz_> archangelpetro,  ah ok... mmm my guess is nothing is happening at this point... i would just keep googleing  and also go to the #nvidia channel,,, not sure how active things are there
[15:29] <ruan> cha0s2358: qbittorrent
[15:29] <ThinkT510> miloss: marketing departments market hard drive sizes deceptively
[15:29] <kriume> why cant i use wireshark? when i press Interface List a little window opens and it says "description destination IP packets packets/S" and when i press ok, nothing more happends
[15:30] <archangelpetro> ok coz_ ty
[15:30] <delinquentme> is there a good solution for playing f4v files on ubuntu?
[15:30] <coz_> archangelpetro,  when in #nvidia try to speak with aronp
[15:30] <cha0s2358> +ruan thanks
[15:30] <raven> hi
[15:30] <raven> after every reboot evolution comes up with its configuration wizard - why and how to fix this?
[15:30] <LUcase> kriume: same to me. there is a topic on uForums
[15:31] <LUcase> Searching about it <:
[15:32] <gumus> nothing happens when i try to run g.earth? Any ideas?
[15:32] <coz_> gumus,  you want google earth running?
[15:32] <GreenNerd> Does anyone know of an open source alternative to Microsoft Visio?  I am trying to create a network map of my LAN/VPN and I can only find solutions that generate very low quality diagrams and icons.  I would like to find something that doesn't require me to download an icon pack.  I'd like for it to work out of the box.  Any suggestions?
[15:32] <ruan> !googleearth
[15:33] <ruan> gumus: how did you install g earth?
[15:33] <unlock> !googleearth
[15:33] <llutz> GreenNerd: dia
[15:33] <GreenNerd> ?
[15:33] <coz_> GreenNerd,     http://www.linuxalt.com/
[15:33] <LUcase> kriume: try to take a look here for Wireshark: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=79936064
[15:33] <RichW> Can someone do a speed test on this file for me? Transfer rate in KB/s? http://rog.pynguins.com/static/bigfile.bin
[15:33] <llutz> !info dia
[15:34] <roknir> if i have a drive (/dev/sdc) that's wholly encrypted with truecrypt, is there a way i can find a UUID for it or can i only get a UUID for the partition (/dev/sdc1) once mounting with truecrypt?
[15:34] <RichW> Its a load of random data
 can u help me to restore it.. i'd like to access my folders from "Places" like before. how do i do it?
[15:34] <GreenNerd> coz_, Thanks for the link.  I am actually interested in getting feedback on products that people here in the IRC has actually used.
[15:35] <coz_> GreenNerd,  ah ok... I have not used dia or kivio
[15:35] <ruan> brverg: im not really sure, i'll try googling for it
[15:35] <coz_> GreenNerd, that link is not     always up to date either
[15:35] <Kimb> hi
[15:36] <cha0s2358> ptte, ruan ok i am using qbittorrent now and same issue.
[15:36] <coz_> GreenNerd,  for example the have  Pencil as an microsoft paint alternative when actually it is a adobe flash alternative
[15:36] <LUcase> !hi | kimg
 ok thanks... i think i accidentally changed the "open with" to some other applixations
[15:36] <ExplodingPiglets> How do I install minecraft? I downloaded it via bittorrent
[15:36] <Kimb> can some one help me to install the terminal of ubuntu in the win7
[15:37] <LUcase> Kimb: absolutely. let me search in the forums for you
[15:37] <Kimb> thanks
[15:37] <gumus> can't believe that all I need was lsb-core ...worked fine ! Thanks...By the way how did lsb-core do the trick?
[15:37] <Sonne> Kimb, i believe LUcase was being sarcastic.
[15:37] <cha0s2358> is there a way to change how my system allocates the bandwidth?
[15:37] <coz_> ExplodingPiglets,  does minecraft have a .jre  package there?
[15:37] <LUcase> Sonne: :P
[15:37] <ExplodingPiglets> let me check
[15:38] <ruan> ExplodingPiglets: .jar actually isn't it?
[15:38] <ExplodingPiglets> yes
[15:38] <ThinkT510> gumus: googleearth is made to be compatible with the linux standard base
[15:38] <LUcase> Actually Kimb: If you want to run Ubuntu OS in win7, you would need to virtualmachine it, or simply double-boot ubuntu,
[15:38] <coz_> sorry yes  .jar
[15:38] <ruan> ExplodingPiglets: it will open with java/openjava if you have it installed
[15:38] <ExplodingPiglets> yes it does.
[15:38] <coz_> ExplodingPiglets,   that should be  .jar
 i6t's ok, i got it fixed.. I changed the "open with" to nautilus. now it's working. thx by the way.
[15:38] <cutiyar> trying to make usb
[15:38] <coz_> ExplodingPiglets, ok then no installation require however
[15:38] <coz_> ExplodingPiglets,   go to  system/administration/synaptic package manager
[15:39] <Kimb> i've do the duble boot
[15:39] <coz_> ExplodingPiglets,  click Settings/Repositories
[15:39] <ExplodingPiglets> The file '/home/alexander/Downloads/Minecraft.jar' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.
[15:39] <Kimb> the virtula machine is also a solution but
[15:39] <cutiyar> trying to burn usb BY make up starter , the make sarter disk do not enable ,y?
[15:39] <ruan> ExplodingPiglets: mark it as executable, right click, properties, permissions
[15:39] <coz_> ExplodingPiglets,  then click the  "Other software"  tab  and tick both ubuntu partner repositories
[15:39] <LUcase> Kimb -> But running a ubuntu Terminal under win7 is impossible.
[15:39] <kriume> haha
[15:40] <kriume> haha
[15:40] <anilhw> hi
[15:40] <ruan> ExplodingPiglets: terminal eqivalent is chmod +x /home/alexander/Downloads/Minecraft.jar
[15:40] <coz_> ruan,  not sure if he has sun java installed
[15:40] <Kimb> that's true
[15:40] <LUcase> !hi | anilhw
[15:40] <ExplodingPiglets> It won't let me right click properties
[15:40] <coz_> ruan,  and not sure  icedtea can handle that
[15:40] <ruan> ExplodingPiglets: hmm, then try the terminal version
[15:41] <Kimb> i've heart that cmd is short os
 it's ok, i had it fixed. i changed the "open with" to nautilus and now it's working. thank you rush. goodbye
[15:41] <ruan> brverg: bye :)
[15:41] <Kimb> and i've compared whith the termina
[15:41] <coz_> ExplodingPiglets,  when you right click that  .jar file  what options are available
[15:41] <ExplodingPiglets> oh crap  every time I open the downloads folder my computer slows down big time
[15:41] <ruan> ExplodingPiglets: do you have many files in there?
[15:41] <ThinkT510> LUcase: !hi has been deleted
[15:42] <FireFactor> hello everyone
[15:42] <Kimb> after that i've suppose that if we cannot do the same with the terminal
[15:42] <cutiyar> trying to burn usb BY make up starter , the make sarter disk do not enable ,y?
[15:42] <coz_> ExplodingPiglets, in terminal     df -l
[15:42] <LUcase> ThinkT510 -> Thanks. didin't know it.
[15:42] <anilhw> hi i am anil
[15:42] <ruan> hi anil
[15:42] <anilhw> hi ruan
[15:43]  * clr 
[15:43] <FireFactor> does anyone have aion game running on ubuntu?
[15:44] <ruan> FireFactor: havent heard of it
[15:44] <LUcase> FireFactor -> I know that game, something is wrong ?
[15:44] <FireFactor> yes
[15:44] <LUcase> What is ?
[15:44] <FireFactor> people cant make it work
[15:45] <LUcase> FireFactor -> Are you running it under Wine ?
[15:45] <FireFactor> yes trying
[15:45] <terrence> hello there
[15:45] <FireFactor> hi terrence
[15:45] <terrence> hi
[15:46] <LUcase> FireFactor -> Then did you look at the Wine website, games support list ?
[15:46] <ruan> ^aka appdb
[15:46] <terrence> i am new here
[15:46] <miketomdool> Welcome Terrence
[15:46] <terrence> thanks
[15:46] <LUcase> !ask | terrence
[15:47] <terrence> ok
[15:47] <FireFactor> LUcase yes but says it haves problems
[15:47] <LUcase> :)
[15:47] <terrence> oh gosh I can't follow
[15:47] <LUcase> FireFactor -> What are they specificly ?
[15:47] <ExplodingPiglets> I had to yank my battery because the downloads folder slowed down my computer to the point of freezing
[15:48] <Cube``> hey guys, how can i temporarily set the IDENT from DROP to REJECT?
[15:48] <FireFactor> not sure but cant make it start
[15:48] <Bucky> hola
[15:48] <ruan> mine also drops.. cant find ident
[15:49] <Bucky> sorry again :/
[15:49] <LUcase> FireFactor -> Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[15:49] <Bucky> como no se ingles me voy...
[15:49] <Bucky> bye
[15:50] <LUcase> !es | Bucky
[15:50] <dp_> I'm trying to find some icons, specifically stock_outbox.png. Looking in /usr/share/icons/gnome/*, I have no "stock" folder. Any ideas on where I'd get them?
[15:51] <FireFactor> LUcase tks i will check that
[15:51] <papna> My keyboard's 10-key doesn't seem to be working any more. When I hit the 5 key a context meny comes up. It doesn't change when I turn numlock on and off.
[15:52] <ThinkT510> dp_ stock_outbox.png is the name of the file, it doesn't mean it's in a folder called stock
[15:52] <jrib> papna: press shift-numlock
[15:52] <dtcrshr> !grub
[15:53] <LUcase> papna -> is that your problem ? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1422434.html
[15:53] <dp_> ThinkT510: understood, but everything I gather on the forums suggests that's where it should be; /usr/share/icons/gnome/<size>/stock/net/stock_outbox.png
[15:53] <papna> jrib: That worked. Thanks.
[15:53] <jrib> papna: it's an accessibility feature allowing you to control the mouse with your numpad
[15:53] <LUcase> Oh, What a silly guy i am xD
[15:53] <papna> LUcase: Ostensibly not. Thanks.
[15:54] <papna> jrib: I suspected that but didn't see how to disable it in the accessibility menu. Thanks agian.
[15:54] <deft_n1x> hi all, how can i mirroring only lucid universe repository with rsync to make a local copy of it?
[15:56] <ThinkT510> dp_: sorry i can't help further, i'm more of an xfce user
[15:56] <dp_> ThinkT510: I'm actually using e16, but apparently, this app is mostly gnome-specific
[16:00] <ubuntu__> Hi all, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu to an ssd.
[16:00] <ruan> ubuntu__: what is the problem?
[16:00] <ubuntu__> The drive doesn't show up in parted or gaperted
[16:00] <ubuntu__> *gparted, sorry
[16:01] <ruan> ubuntu__: does it show up when you type 'sudo fdisk -l' in a terminal?
[16:02] <ubuntu__> ruan, nope
[16:02] <ruan> that means its not detected at all
[16:02] <ruan> are you sure it's plugged in correctly, etc?
[16:03] <ubuntu__> Yep, I'm in live disk mode, and windows 7 is installed on it and working correctly
[16:03] <ruan> hmm
[16:04] <ubuntu__> I tried googling for known issues but it seems some people are running with the same drive with no issues\
[16:04] <GauravButola> How to know in which partition grub is installed?
[16:05] <hael_> hello
[16:05] <hael_> i've a question about ekiga
[16:05] <hael_> do anyone could help me ?
[16:05] <jjp_> ask directly
[16:06] <jjp_> hael_: just ask directly
[16:06] <hael_> i registered in ekiga and diamondcard.us to have a sip
[16:06] <ubuntu__> GauravButola, look for a menu.lst file in a folder called boot or grub
[16:07] <anilhw>  /j #ubuntu-server
[16:07] <hael_> then i paid and when i want to connect i got could not refister to 'myuser'@sip@diamondcard.us
[16:07] <ubuntu__> ruan, any luck?
[16:07] <GauravButola> ubuntu_: no, there is'nt any
[16:08] <ruan> ubuntu__: i've googled but havent seen anything yet
[16:09] <ubuntu__> GauravButola, do an ls of the drive you are looking at and add it to the pastebin link
[16:09] <ruan> GauravButola: sudo fdisk -l
[16:10] <ruan> GauravButola: the drive that has boot flag (*) has grub on it
[16:10] <anilhw>  /j #ubuntu-server
[16:10] <ruan> GauravButola: or partiton. drive preferably
[16:10] <ruan> anilhw: without the space
[16:10] <GauravButola> ruan: I am dual booting with natty and currently on maverick
[16:10] <ruan> GauravButola: ok, sudo fdisk -l will work though
[16:11] <GauravButola> ruan: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/580171/
[16:11] <ruan> GauravButola: that means that grub is installed on /dev/sda1
[16:12] <ruan> GauravButola: and possibly the MBR
[16:12] <ruan> most probably*
[16:12] <GauravButola> ruan: does it mean that, if i remove the natty partition, my system wont have any issues in booting, maverick is on /dev/sda1
[16:12] <AnassAhmed> Hello, I'm using linuxmint 10.10 and want to upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 Natty, How?
[16:13] <ruan> GauravButola: it shouldn't.
[16:13] <AnassAhmed> Hello, I'm using linuxmint 10.10 and want to upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 Natty, How?
[16:13] <ruan> GauravButola: as long as you do it properly
[16:13] <ruan> GauravButola: from a livecd
[16:13] <jrib> !mintsupport | AnassAhmed
[16:13] <ruan> GauravButola: partitioning on a mounted drive isn't a good idea
[16:14] <GauravButola> ruan: but my maverick /boot/grub doesnt have a menu.list but natty /boot/grub has
[16:14] <bharrison> hi all
[16:14] <karim__> hi
[16:15] <Roasted_> Can anybody shed some light on .ICEAuthority errors? I'm trying to set the default profile in Ubuntu but it's proving to be a headache.
[16:15] <Guest83256> OMG
[16:15] <ruan> Guest83256: ?
[16:16] <timzorr> any of you guys or girls out there know how have complete removal of hair on and around the scrotum and shaft
[16:17] <ruan> !ot | timzorr
[16:17] <angelove> hello
[16:17] <miketomdool> was up angelove? =P
[16:17] <Slylias> When I restart the eth0 doesn't come up, I have to do sudo ifup eth0 every time. Is there a way around this?
[16:17] <Guest19311> does anybody know how to get headphones working for a conexant soundcard
[16:17] <Pumpkin-> Slylias: does /etc/network/interfaces contain "auto eth0" ?
[16:18] <Slylias> checking
[16:18] <Guest83256> co ai la nguoi Viet Nam hok ?
[16:18] <Slylias> I have lines in there for setting static IP, do I put the auto eth0 before or after that?
[16:19] <Guest83256> co ai la nguoi Viet Nam hok nhi ?
[16:19] <mena> hi
[16:19] <mena> i need help
[16:19] <Pumpkin-> I've got it before.
[16:19] <ThinkT510> mena: how can we help?
[16:19] <Guest19311> does anybody know how to get headphones working for a conexant soundcard
[16:19] <ruan> !sound
[16:20] <Slylias> Pumpkin-, do I put the auto eth0 before or after the iface eth0 inet static and address lines?
[16:21] <Guest19311> I have sound but I want to plug in the headphones to run sound on better speakers than the laptop
[16:21] <ruan> Slylias: i have auto lo as my first line in interfaces
[16:21] <Guest19311> but of course it doesn't work
[16:21] <Slylias> ruan, Thank you.
[16:22] <ruan> unedited of course
[16:22] <Slylias> I'm new to ubuntu, trying to do something a little complex, but I'm learning a lot, thanks for all the help.
[16:22] <ruan> Slylias: so you can put auto eth0 as first line i believe
[16:23] <karim__> have a problem using mobile stick when i stick it in the usb slot ubuntu stops  and i cant do nothing
[16:24] <Slylias> New Question:  I am mounting a remote folder in my filesystem using sshfs  how do I make this automated so I don't have to do it on every boot?
[16:24] <masterjp> hi all=)
[16:25] <ajah> i`ve managed to create ad hoc network using iwconfig but i want to enable i-net connection on it how to do that
[16:26] <ruan> Slylias: hmm. a network equivalent of fstab?
[16:26] <Slylias> What's fstab?
[16:26] <mena> when i opened log file this message appeared"he file is not a regular file or is not a text file."
[16:26] <ruan> !fstab
[16:26] <mena> what's mean it?
[16:26] <ruan> fstab automounts drives at startup
[16:27] <Slylias> Thank you
[16:27] <FredFried7> I seem to have lost my boot up manager screen
[16:28] <ruan> FredFried7: grub?
[16:28] <FredFried7> ruan-yes
[16:28] <ruan> FredFried7: hmm.. i've heard shift can bring up something, hold on
[16:28] <ruan> !grub2
[16:29] <FredFried7> ruan-screen isn't showing me anything...it boots straight into ubuntu
[16:29] <ruan> FredFried7: yeah, i heard shift forces it to show something
[16:29] <ruan> could possibly be the boot list
[16:29] <FredFried7> ruan-shift?
[16:29] <FredFried7> ok
[16:29] <ruan> holding shift at boot
[16:30] <panfist> i'm using maverick and trying to get my dual monitors to work. the correct resolutions are not appearing for one monitor.
[16:30] <ruan> yes, shift.
[16:30] <FredFried7> ruan-ok thanks I'll try that
[16:30] <masterjp> А по русски ктото говорит?
[16:30] <DJones> ruan: If you hold down the left shift key while the computer is starting up, it should bring up the grub menu
[16:30] <ruan> yep
[16:31] <ruan> i googled that to verify
[16:31] <LUcase> !ru | masterjp
[16:31] <LUcase> Okay... second time this happens to me, i must be outdated.
[16:31] <kanneblei> Hey all, I'm having trouble building deb packages on a SLES system. I figured I could either find some package that provides dpkg, or I could build a chroot there running some sort of debian. Anyone has any better ideas? Thanks.
[16:31] <LUcase> Gonna check out the factoids (:
[16:33] <silvertop> graboids?
[16:33] <nishttal2> how can I share me Ubuntu desktop with a remote user
[16:33] <ruan> nishttal2: ssh or remote desktop
[16:33] <silvertop> vnc? or they may call it vino
[16:34] <ruan> nishttal2: depends what you want to do
[16:34] <silvertop> yeah rdp over ssh is mo betta
[16:34] <delocated> nishttal2, x11vnc
[16:34] <vnikiet> hi all
[16:34] <keyzs> nishttal2: with vnc, team viewer
[16:34] <delocated> many options as you can tell
[16:34] <nishttal2> wondering if there is a remote desktop (windows) substitute
[16:34] <keyzs> or ssh to the machine
[16:34] <delocated> x11vnc will do a shared session
[16:34] <silvertop> x11vnc he just said ti
[16:34] <nishttal2> so the other user can also control mouse
[16:34] <ruan> nishttal2: teamviewer, remote desktop, ssh
[16:34] <ruan> nishttal2: teamviewer works for ubuntu
[16:34] <nishttal2> ssh is only terminal
[16:35] <nishttal2> i need X11 sharing
[16:35] <nishttal2> so will try teamviwer
[16:35] <jgcampbell300> hello, I am looking for a good source for information on working with a ubuntu 10.10 headless server... right now i am trying to setup a printer to share to the network and need a good source of information for learning ... can anyone point me to a good well writen site for this type of information
[16:36] <aeon-ltd> !cups | jgcampbell300
[16:36] <DaGeek247> how do i change the mousespeed?
[16:36] <silvertop> um preferences??
[16:36] <ajah> can someone tell me how to bridge wired with wireless card
[16:36] <DaGeek247> like more than on the default mouse settings
[16:36] <jgcampbell300> aeon-ltd, thank you
[16:36] <DaGeek247> silvertop those arent enough
[16:37] <silvertop> DaGeek247, mine has pointer speed
[16:37] <kejope> detailed mouse settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[16:37] <DaGeek247> silvertop so does mine. myu mouse is going so slow though, and turning it up all the way right there doesnt help
[16:37] <thanius> Hi, anyone familiar with making a bootable Windows sdcard from disc using Ubuntu only?
[16:38] <ruan> bootable sdcard eh?
[16:38] <silvertop> DaGeek247, OiC, hmmm
[16:38] <thanius> ruan: Yeah, sitting on an eeepc
[16:38] <DaGeek247> yeah
[16:39] <thanius> ruan: I've tried copying the contents off the disc to the card and flagging it bootable in fdisk, but that's not enough apparently
[16:39] <Kentrel> Hey, I have a USB transfer cable - I've connected my laptop to my PC but it won't work
[16:39] <Kentrel> They both run Ubuntu 10.10
[16:40] <silvertop> DaGeek247, maybe use xinput ?
[16:40] <DaGeek247> xinput?
[16:40] <DaGeek247> like i sudo apt-get it/
[16:40] <DaGeek247> ?
[16:40] <Estrellita> hallo
[16:41] <aeon-ltd> Estrellita: hallo, wilkommen nach #ubuntu
[16:41] <Estrellita> =)
[16:41] <DaGeek247> ow would i change the mouse speed via xinput?
[16:42] <silvertop> DaGeek247, sorry got confused in the channels, im fedora my bad, one sec
[16:42] <DaGeek247> ok?
[16:42] <panfist> the monitor preferences window does not display the correct resolution modes for my monitor
[16:45] <coz_> panfist,  which video card?
[16:45] <tortoise7> i just did a fresh install of 10.10..... it now hangs at the flashing cursor after the grub ....  amd64    Help?
[16:45] <nezhac> no
[16:46] <blackswan> is there a way to encrypt an existing unencrypted file system in place, without having to copy all the data to a filesystem built with encryption?
[16:46] <codeur> can someone tell me how to install air application through terminal?
[16:46] <panfist> coz_: amd 3450 integrated
[16:46] <coz_> panfist,  mm  darn I know nothing of ati   ,,,  or how to adjust resolutions
[16:46] <coz_> panfist,   did you also try in the #radeon channel?
[16:47] <codeur>  can someone tell me how to install air application through terminal?
[16:47] <coz_> panfist,  there is likely a utility for ati onlinux
[16:47] <raven> after every reboot evolution comes up with its configuration wizard - why and how to fix this
[16:47] <coz_> codeur,  sudo apt-get install nameofpackage
[16:47] <keyzs> anybody can give me a help installing alfa awus036h,awus036nh and awus51nh on ubuntu 10.10?
[16:47] <coz_> codeur,  sudo apt-get install adobe-air   maybe
[16:47] <codeur> coz: .air doesnt work this way
[16:48] <coz_> codeur,  if you have adobe air installed it should be listed under the menus  with an install option
[16:48] <carlos> hola
[16:48] <tortoise7> the home burned install for 10.04 (which used to work) now presents little square boxes for the alpha numeric characters.... when trying to boot from it  .... this is AFTER the 4 choices past language page.... how can i fix this?
[16:48] <codeur> @coz: I need to do it through commandline
[16:49] <nishttal2> I just installed teamviewer.. does the remote user also need teamviewer to connect to my machine?
[16:50] <keyzs> nishttal2: yes
[16:50] <Kentrel> If I unplug my ethernet cable from my desktop and stick it in my laptop the internet won't work on the laptop. How do I make it work?
[16:50] <keyzs> Kentrel wich OS are you using and wich version?
[16:50] <nishttal2> keyzs, ouch.. the user has remote desktop client.. is there a remote desktop server for ubuntu?
[16:50] <ruan> Kentrel: ifup eth0?
[16:50] <tortoise7> what is the cli command sequence to boot into gui from grub?  10.10   amd64
[16:51] <Kentrel> Ubuntu 10.10
[16:51] <Kentrel> on both
[16:51] <codeur>  can someone tell me how to install air application through terminal?
[16:51] <keyzs> nishttal2: yes you have one, can download it on synaptic
[16:51] <skullboy> how do i forge a fbset report
[16:51] <ruan> codeur: air application?
[16:51] <raven> after every reboot evolution comes up with its configuration wizard - why and how to fix this
[16:51] <keyzs> tortoise7: is should do that automatic
[16:52] <keyzs> it
[16:52] <Kentrel> ruan, it says "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[16:52] <codeur> @ruan: yeah an .air application, i have installed adobe air, how to run applications
[16:52] <nishttal2> keyzs, thanks.. i search for remote desktop on synaptic and 80 packages pop up
[16:52] <keyzs> Kentrel:    ifconfig eth0 down/up
[16:52] <ruan> Kentrel: what is the address of the connection? check network manager
[16:53] <keyzs> nishttal2: there is one package cant remember the name now
[16:53] <Kentrel> Where's the network manager?
[16:53] <jrr> on natty, is it possible to choose a different desktop environment?  perhaps I need to first change the login manager to something that lets you choose the env
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> raven:  check the permissiosn and ownership of files/dirs in your home. make sure none have accidently gotten owned by root and thus unwriteeable by a normal user.
[16:53] <nishttal2> keyzs, i only see clients
[16:53] <nishttal2> keyzs, and VNC servers
[16:53] <keyzs> Kentrel:  you have it on gui upper right corner
[16:53] <ruan> Kentrel: system > preferences
[16:53] <Bluish> how do i use iwconfig to connect to wireless internet?
[16:53] <tortoise7> keyzs,   yes it should.... but it does not
[16:54] <codeur> how to install an .air application from terminal? i have installed adobe air
[16:54] <ruan> Kentrel: or the network manager applet
[16:54] <keyzs> tortoise7:  install grub again
[16:54] <melter> is there a way to get ubuntu on a live cd to not use available swap partitions on the hard drive?
[16:54] <Kentrel> Well in Network connections on the laptop it says Auto eth0 and Never used
[16:55] <codeur> how to install an .air application from terminal? i have installed adobe air
[16:55] <bagustrix> join #ubuntu
[16:55] <bagustrix> join #blankon
[16:55] <raven> Dr_Willis, not owned by root...
[16:56] <tortoise7> keyzs, i have done 3 complete installs this morning with the same results of a hanging cursor....this is why i askedabout the cli command sequence to start the gui
[16:56] <codeur> how to install an .air application from terminal? i have installed adobe air
[16:57] <sipior> codeur: it's considered courteous to wait ten minutes or so before asking your question again.
[16:57] <codeur> how to install an .air application from terminal? i have installed adobe air
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> codeur:  see what app the air installer icon runs  they may not even have a cli installer tool
[16:57] <tortoise7> keyzs, 10.10 originally was an upgrade from 10.04.2.....  but therewere many things broken..... so iwent  with a fresh install and now i cannot get to the gui
[16:58] <codeur> it seems no one has any idea of air, dats y i am looking for someone with air knowloedge,sry
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> Only air app i use is that 'Antanna' app. and i never needed to install it via cli.
[16:59] <codeur> Dr willis, it rns through adobe air, i cant find a cli tool can smone tell me if dere is any
[16:59] <keyzs> tortoise7:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[16:59] <codeur>  Dr willis, I am developing a customized kubuntu cd , for that i need cli tool
[17:00] <Henk__> Hi
[17:00] <Henk__> I was checking out "awesome"
[17:00] <Henk__> And I was wondering
[17:00] <Henk__> What happens when I close awesome?
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> codeur:  check whats in the air runtime deb package.
[17:01] <sipior> Henk__: it ceases to be awesome?
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> Henk__:  clarify what yu mean...
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> 'theres no charge for awsome'
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:01] <raven> Dr_Willis, evolution is not owned by root
[17:01] <codeur>  Dr willis, can u explain a bit more, what do i have to chk?
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> codeur:  when you install 'air' it uses some deb package it downloads/generates/something.. see what it installed.
[17:02] <Henk__> Dr_Willis: Well, if I open the menu and do awesome/quit. What will happen?
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> Henk__:  You will go back to GDM login i imagine
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> Henk__:  try it and see.
[17:02] <Henk__> Okay
[17:03] <Henk__> And what happens if I mess up my configuration file and restart?
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> you fix it...
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:04] <codeur> dr willis, it installs adobe air installer , I tried running it through terminal but it opens into a gui, i cant handle GUI, i need to do it through terminal
[17:04] <stickyboy> Why does traceroute6 come installed by default, but traceroute doesn't?  I've noticed that for a few releases...
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> codeur:  the deb package may show some binary executables that you want to check out.  for all i know there may be no cli only installer tool.
[17:05] <codeur> dr willis: does binary mean ending at .so?
[17:05]  * Dr_Willis wonders if theres an #AIR channel
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> codeur:  a .so is a library file
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> executable files have the executable bit set.
[17:06] <cheche> Anyone has seen a problema with Samba and Ubuntu 10.04 after upgrade from 8.04
[17:06] <GatorAlli> Why doesn't my cron script work? It has a command to update a database every minute but the database isn't updating. The commands work fine by themselves. - http://pastebin.com/AWrButss
[17:06] <codeur> dr willis: how to recognise it?
[17:06] <cheche> I have a strage problem that always get fixed with restart samba
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> codeur:  its executable bit will be set.   not by any extension
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> you can use 'mc' to browse the contents of a .deb or extract the deb some other way
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> GatorAlli:  be sure to use the full path, and no alias's to commands (common issue with cron)
[17:08] <Osmodivs> Speaking of libraries, What could be wrong here? I dont like that "corrupted memory" message in my terminal... http://pastebin.com/B3Le0FiT
[17:08] <panfist> i was wondering how to change some behavior with my dual monitor setup. gnome panels are on one monitor, but desktop links are on the other
[17:08] <panfist> is there any way to globally change which monitor these things appear on?
[17:09] <GatorAlli> Dr_Willis: From what I see, the commands are using full path
[17:09] <GatorAlli> *s
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> panfist:  nvidia-settings tool has a 'primary' monitor that you select.. then thats tehre the icons end up. drag panel over to it.. if its not there allready
[17:10] <stickyboy> So Ubuntu installs traceroute6, but not the IPv4 one... instead there is tracepath and mtr.
[17:10] <stickyboy> Okie doke.
[17:11] <panfist> Dr_Willis: unfortunately i dont have an nvidia card
[17:11] <sipior> stickyboy: if you want to complain, try complaining to people who have some capacity to change the defaults. id est, not here.
[17:11] <sipior> stickyboy: a bug report, for example.
[17:12] <gratnam11> hey guys i was fallowing this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[17:12] <Keebab> could somebody help me with the sounds on youtube?
[17:12] <gratnam11> it works but it doesnt ask me for a password
[17:12] <gratnam11> what am i doing wrong
[17:13] <stickyboy> sipior: Meh, wasn't a complaint.  Just seems illogical, no?
[17:13] <ruan> gratnam11: if it works without a password, then you're not doing anything wrong
[17:13] <gratnam11> oh
[17:13] <taiga> hello
[17:13] <sipior> stickyboy: not especially. different, maybe.
[17:13] <gratnam11> how do i make it work with password
[17:13] <taiga> is there a light version of ubuntu?
[17:13] <ruan> taiga: minimal?
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> panfist:  always a good idea to tell people what video chipset you got when asking video questions. :)
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> taiga:  theres lubuntu - thats about as light as you get  other then going totally 'minimal install'
[17:14] <ruan> !minimal
[17:14] <gratnam11> i thought this line ment it needs      password   Require valid-user
[17:14] <taiga> lubuntu? what's the wm there?
[17:14] <DJones> taiga: For lower memory/older systems? lubuntu or xubuntu are probably the best version
[17:14] <ruan> lxde?
[17:14] <ruan> !info lxde
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> !lubuntu
[17:15] <gratnam11> ruan please help me out
[17:15] <Proxy-n0v4_> concerning graphic cards, I'm currently researching a bit myself but asking here can't harm, either: which nvidias would be equal or better than a HD Radeon 4850?
[17:15] <taiga> xubuntu failed to install because there was too little ram
[17:15] <ruan> gratnam11: im not sure about this topic :/
[17:15] <taiga> lxde is like xfce?
[17:15] <taiga> not like fluxbox i hope
[17:16] <ruan> !info xfce
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> taiga:  it uses openbox I think
[17:16] <gratnam11> okay thanks
[17:16] <melter> is there a way to get the ubuntu live cd to not mount swap partitions?
[17:16] <Keebab> could somebody help me with the sounds on youtube?
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> lxde is lighter then xfce
[17:16] <coz_> xubuntu-desktop
[17:16] <ruan> yeah, lxde is lightest
[17:17] <taiga> but i mean, does it look a bit like microsoft windows?
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> Keebab:  you can set Youtube to use HTML5 that will work in chrome,  if you want to work 'around' the no sound in flash issues.
[17:17] <taiga> if not, it would be rejected
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> taiga:  it has buttons and windows.. what more would  you expect.. check its homepage.
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> dosent everything look a bit like windows?
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> lxde is designed for low power systems..  so they would reject somthing that works well..  and instead choose somthing that looks difffent and works worse.. :)
[17:19] <jjp_> Dr_Willis: well, all window manager don't provide the same... er... 'user experience'.
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> lxde is a 'desktop' :) not juist a window manager.
[17:19] <taiga> Dr_Willis, imo fluxbox does not
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> fluxbox IS just a window manager.
[17:19] <taiga> k
[17:19] <ruan> Dr_Willis: not all windows look like windows
[17:19] <jjp_> ruan: thanksfully
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> windows dosent have to look like windows. :)
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> win95 vs Win7....
[17:20] <m_tadeu> hi...what's a good tool to recover deleted files?
[17:20] <jjp_> Or 3.0 vs Seven
[17:20] <DJones> !recover | m_tadeu
[17:21] <taiga> +(Dr_Willis+) win95 vs Win7.... <--- either, just not windows 3
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> m_tadeu:  good luck with that . :) they exist.. but if you can get anything from them is a channalge.
[17:21]  * Dr_Willis gets out his copy of MS-BOB.
[17:21] <ruan> dos vs win7
[17:21] <qwertyuiopppp> hi
[17:21] <jjp_> ruan: come on, you cannot claim dos has a window manager part
[17:22] <ruan> lol
[17:22] <Keebab> Dr_Willis: I used to have sound on yt till I installed exaile (I think its the reason)
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> !info exaile
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> Keebab:  i find it hard to belive that installing a music player would break flash.
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> Keebab:  you have sound in other apps?
[17:22] <Keebab> yes
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> 'no sound in flash' is a common issue.
[17:23] <kmanzoor> hello
[17:23] <Keebab> mayby music player changed something?
[17:23] <ruan> doubt it. you could reinstall flash though
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> check yoru mixer settings . Its possible a Flash UPDATE changed flash somehow,.
[17:24] <jjp_> Keebab: may be the audio device is already accessed by the music player ?
[17:24] <coder2> sometimes in vlc while playing a video....a black screen appears why???
[17:24] <jjp_> coder2: may be unsupported video codec
[17:24] <jjp_> or error in the video
[17:25] <ruan> more like failing video codec or rendering not going too well
[17:25] <coder2> jjp_: .avi format
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> or currupted video
[17:25] <jjp_> coder2: avi is not really a video format, more like a contener
[17:25] <Keebab> jjp_: i dont know..
[17:25] <ruan> coder2: what's the cpu usage while playing it?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> or some odd video driver quirk.
[17:25] <coder2> ruan: dont know
[17:26] <ruan> hmm
[17:26] <mena> hi
[17:26] <mena> i am mena , i need helping
[17:26] <coder2> ruan: bassically i want an idea what can be reasons behind that
[17:27] <mena> can any one here help me?
[17:27] <pers3us>  :)
[17:27] <llutz> !ask | mena
[17:27] <ruan> coder2: list of possible reasons: codecs, drivers, hardware rendering issues, corrupted video
[17:28] <coder2> ruan:what are codecs basically?
[17:28] <Osmodivs> http://pastebin.com/B3Le0FiT
[17:28] <m_tadeu> DJones, Dr_Willis thanx...foremost seems to be recovering
[17:29] <Osmodivs> I cant run a program, What could be wrong?
[17:29] <ruan> coder2: the software which decodes the format which is playing
[17:29] <ruan> !codec
[17:29] <ruan> hmm not really
[17:29] <coz_> translators
[17:29] <bruteforce_allti> Hi, during boot up my grub shows 4 kernel versions. Should I keep them as it is or remove older kernel version?
[17:29] <panfist> i have tried to enable the restricted driver for my integrated amd 3200, and X fails to load. i have done a Xorg -configure and copied that file over my existing xorg.conf, now X loads but i'd really like to enable the proprietary driver
[17:29] <coder2> ruan: thanks ruan:)
[17:30] <dustin> anyone got time to help me quick? I need to find out what port my mud -server is running on and the ip address of it
[17:30] <ruan> dustin: netstat
[17:31] <dustin> thanks ruan
[17:31] <dustin> will that list the PORT?
[17:31] <ruan> i believe so
[17:31] <patrykr> hey
[17:31] <patrykr> i have problem with dns, any one can help me?
[17:32] <llutz> patrykr: what problem?
[17:33] <patrykr> when i ping the server by name its connection time out, but when i ping the same serwer by ip its ok
[17:33] <llutz> patrykr: check /etc/resolv.conf (nameserver entries)
[17:34] <patrykr> its server. i use dhcpd3 and power dns
[17:34] <patrykr> since yesterday it was ok
[17:34] <mena> h have error message wwhen i opened log viewer The file is not a regular file or is not a text file.
[17:34] <llutz> patrykr: whatever, check it
[17:34] <mena> what's it mean?
[17:34] <taiga> what's mud server
[17:35] <gilles> hey .. can any1 help me with  starcraft 2 ... i have teamviewer so some1 can connect and see the problem and help me .. i got teh game running , full screen only, sound works i can log in but cant play multiplayer or siungleplaye
[17:35] <antivirtel> hi, how can I disable mysql auto-start on 10.04??? I used sysv-rc-conf and update-rc.d... but there is no init script linked.. what can I do to disable mysql auto-start??
[17:35] <dustin> nope
[17:35] <dustin> didnt work ruan
[17:35] <ruan> dustin: why?
[17:35] <dustin> can i cut and paste the outpute to u?
[17:35] <ruan> dustin: check system > administration > network tools
[17:36] <Eliezer> I have a 64bit Machine,but is not a AMD like the Ubuntu64bit Download,can i install anyways ?
[17:36] <kriume> anyone know about a better torrent client for ubuntu than transmission???
[17:36] <ruan> kriume: qbittorrent
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> Eliezer:  what sort of machine is it?
[17:36] <llutz> Eliezer: amd64 is for intel too
[17:37] <ruan> !torrent | kriume
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> kriume:  theres dozens of torrent clients out for Linux
[17:37] <mena> ??????????????????
[17:37] <llutz> Eliezer: except ia64/itanium
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> gilles:  check the wine app database for any known issues.
[17:37] <Eliezer> kriume:)  Ktorrent is the best torrent download manager,as far i know.
[17:37] <patrykr> resolv.conf > DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND - YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN nameserver 127.0.0.1
[17:37] <ruan> !best
[17:38] <llutz> patrykr: and you have a dns-server running on that machine?
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> patrykr:  the network manager stuff changes that file as needed normally
[17:38] <Eliezer> llutz:) thanks,is a clone
[17:38] <taiga> dustin, what's your mud server btw?
[17:38] <gilles> dr wills,, i did .. been trying for the last couple of days now
[17:38] <patrykr> yes
[17:38] <dustin> hold on ruan
[17:38] <llutz> patrykr: then the dns-server fails, check config/logs
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> gilles:  its not really a ubuntu specific issue. theres also the #winehq channel and the wine forums.
[17:39] <gilles> ok
[17:39] <ruan> also !appdb
[17:40] <thut> I have a question; how do you remove a program AND all it dependencies? (orphan-packages)
[17:41] <dustin> im lost ruan
[17:41] <ruan> dustin: system > administration > network tools
[17:41] <clu3> guys, recently my Maverick ubuntu updated something and now sometimes it responds very slowly to my keyboard input, be it on my Eclipse, or my terminal. I checked ps but found no significant processes, except for Xorg sometimes occupies for 10-20% CPU . Any suggestions?
[17:41] <dustin> im there. then port scan?
[17:41] <ruan> dustin: yeah
[17:41] <ruan> dustin: no
[17:42] <ruan> dustin: try netstat first
[17:42] <ruan> dustin: this one has several options
[17:42] <schnuffle> thut: apt-get remove -purge <paketname>
[17:42] <schnuffle> --purge
[17:42] <mena> i have a problem
[17:42] <mena> pleaze i need help
[17:42] <ruan> dustin: netstat > active network services
[17:43] <schnuffle> thut: and use deborphan to delete orphaned packages
[17:43] <mena> i neeeeeeeeeeeed help plz
[17:43] <thut> schnuffle: is deporphan a program that I have to install?
[17:43] <schnuffle> thut: yes
[17:43] <evilvish> !ask | mena
[17:44] <schnuffle> !ask | mmena
[17:44] <schnuffle> !ask | mena
[17:44] <evilvish> schnuffle: ;)
[17:44] <mena> i have error message when i open log file viewer
[17:44] <mena> etstat > active network s
[17:44] <mena> The file is not a regular file or is not a text file.
[17:44] <mena> The file is not a regular file or is not a text file.
[17:44] <mena> The file is not a regular file or is not a text file.
[17:44] <FloodBot3> mena: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <patrykr> tell me, can I change DNS servers bypassing my DNS server ?
[17:45] <Warwolt> What text editor should I use?
[17:45] <YouKay> Hey guys, is there an app to utilise gnome clock applet's calender facility (events, anniversaries etc.) other than evolution?
[17:45] <aeon-ltd> Warwolt: please don't.... choose what you can run and what you like
[17:46] <MarconM> i want to know about frame buffer
[17:46] <aeon-ltd> Warwolt: there is no best(or a perfect fit), so suggestions are pointless
[17:46] <MarconM> is there somebody that know about it
[17:46] <newby115> Have lost grub boot-up menu. System boots straight into low res (720x400) screen. Surely there must be an easy way to change the resolution to at least workable???
[17:47] <patrykr> Error reciving packet from recursor backend: Connection refised
[17:47] <coz_> MarconM,     https://wiki.edubuntu.org/FrameBuffer
[17:47] <hal> does anyone know how to change the background of the login screen when ubuntu starts up?
[17:47] <buschwusch> :o
[17:47] <MarconM> hal, i think this is a theme for your ubuntu
[17:47] <llutz> patrykr: add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to /etc/resolv.conf  and test
[17:48] <buschwusch> yay ubuntu
[17:48] <ruan> lol
[17:48] <newby115> is it a case of reinstall?
[17:48] <patrykr> i cant, cuz it will be overwritten
[17:48] <hal> MarconM: how do you set that?
[17:48] <llutz> patrykr: add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to /etc/resolv.conf  and test it             it won't be overwritten until you do a network restart or a dhcp-req
[17:48] <ruan> newby115: system > preferences > monitors?
[17:48] <Newk> hi guys! how is keymap configured in ubuntu? (linux?)
[17:48] <patrykr> ok
[17:49] <MarconM> hal, depend theme that your install, ll change your login screen
[17:49] <MarconM> its beatifull but ... get a lot work
[17:49] <MarconM> =)
[17:49] <hal> MarconM: the background can be changed once you have logged in , regardless of the theme you chose
[17:49] <Phong_> MarconM, what is "Labia Majora" ?
[17:50] <patrykr> should I reload/restart somethin after add that google dns?
[17:50] <llutz> patrykr: no
[17:50] <thut> schnuffle: it does'nt show anything when I execute the command 'deborphan'
[17:50] <newby115> ruan- Can't get into that-screen resolution is at 720X400
[17:50] <ruan> Newk: keyboard layout?
[17:50] <ruan> newby115: can't you use tab?
[17:50] <taiga> Phong_, female body parts?
[17:50] <ruan> lol
[17:50] <Phong_> taiga, i got the term from cameltoe
[17:51] <ruan> newby115: i mean
[17:51] <Newk> ruan: yes
[17:51] <patrykr> it works:)
[17:51] <ruan> newby115: click on the panel and use arrow keys to navigate to monitors?
[17:51] <newby115> ruan-no. You boot into 720x400 screen and tell me what you can see : b
[17:51] <mena> ????
[17:51] <ruan> newby115: lol
[17:51] <ruan> newby115: i'll try
[17:51] <schnuffle> thut: just a moment
[17:51] <jebblue> YouKay: I'm pretty sure that the evolution backend data server is what that applet uses - you can make your Google calendar (and I have my Eclipse Live calendar) show up in that applet - but other apps that use the Gnome calendar?  not sure
[17:51] <taiga> Phong_, it's that cute thing you can see between little girls' legs
[17:52] <llutz> patrykr: repair your dns-server
[17:52] <ruan> !keyboard | Newk
[17:52] <patrykr> thank you
[17:52] <newby115> ruan-if I could have done that I wouldn't be here : b
[17:52] <ruan> hold on, changing resolution
[17:52] <patrykr> but what about pdns?
[17:52] <llutz> patrykr: idk what that is
[17:52] <newby115> ruan - the only usuable thing and with difficulty is the terminal
[17:52] <Phong_> taiga, does it has to be little girl?
[17:53] <teage> talking about little girls is kind of disturbing
[17:53] <schnuffle> thut: try sudo deborphan -a
[17:53] <Newk> ruan: thanks! will look if i can sort it out with those
[17:53] <ruan> newby115: i can still access the panel in 720x450
[17:53] <taiga> Phong_, no but i wanted to illustrate
[17:53] <patrykr> powerdns
[17:53] <Newk> !Shortcuts
[17:53] <newby115> ruan-not on my screen
[17:53] <Phong_> taiga, maybe i should check it at wikipedia
[17:53] <llutz> patrykr: i refuse to run own dns except some caching dnsmasq
[17:53] <ruan> newby115: hmm
[17:54] <ruan> newby115: are you on nvidia, ati, or intel graphics?
[17:54] <llutz> patrykr: pdns should have logs, check em to find whats wrong
[17:54] <newby115> ruan-you see I had already magnified my desktop settings
[17:54] <taiga> teage, why, you have some kind of phobia?
[17:54] <newby115> ruan-nvidia
[17:54] <schnuffle> patrykr: dnsmasq is a nice easy to use tool
[17:54] <kriume> HOW DO I UINSTALL SOFTWARE ON UBUNTU .10.10???
[17:54] <allen_> does anyone know anything about utilizing the dsp on a beagleboard xm
[17:54] <llutz> !caps
[17:55] <aeon-ltd> kriume: sudo apt-get remove nameofsoftware
[17:55] <ruan> newby115: run nvidia-settings from terminal
[17:55] <[TK]D-Fender> kriume: Ubuntu Software Center lets you uninstall stuff too...
[17:55] <taiga> i can only type in lower case
[17:55] <[TK]D-Fender> kriume: And there is also Synaptic
[17:55] <kriume> ah ok :) thanks
[17:55] <Phong_> taiga, i can't believe they show the nasty part in wikipedia
[17:55] <aeon-ltd> puhleeze
[17:55] <ruan> synaptic, software center(gui), apt-get, aptitude(cli)
[17:55] <taiga> Phong_, what is nasty? it's human body
[17:55] <newby115> ruan- ok- I'm chatting to you via the install disk so can you tell me a bit about after I do that?
[17:55] <taiga> Phong_, i hope you're not trolling
[17:56] <Phong_> taiga when i look up the word "Libia Majora"..wikipedia shows real picture of it
[17:56] <Phong_> no i'm not
[17:56] <taiga> Phong_, good
[17:56] <mena> i need hekpplz
[17:56] <taiga> real pictures are good
[17:56] <mena> i need help plz
[17:56] <aeon-ltd> mena: shoot
[17:56] <ruan> newby115: just run nvidia-settings from terminal and change display settings
[17:56] <taiga> i mean, you looked for it yourself
[17:56] <thut> schnuffle: it gives an explationation for something in the main/.. directory..
[17:56] <Babaghanoush> ._.
[17:57] <mena> error message when i open log file viewer"The file is not a regular file or is not a text file."
[17:57] <thut> schnuffle: there is a whole list.
[17:57] <newby115> ruan-can you tell how I do all that please. I'm a newby to ubuntu.
[17:57] <mena> what's this mean
[17:57] <mena> aeon-Itd
[17:57] <mena> .!
[17:57] <schnuffle> thut: yes it checks for everything
[17:57] <ruan> newby115: you said you could access a terminal, so just type nvidia-settings in there
[17:57] <ruan> newby115: if the tool is installed
[17:57] <schnuffle> thut: paste the list to pastebin
[17:58] <evilvish> mena: it means you can not open that file with gedit since it is not a text file
[17:58] <newby115> ruan-ok I can do that. Then how do I change the settings. Sounds really simple. Keep going.
[17:58] <ruan> newby115: display settings > change resolution
[17:58] <mena> evilivish, thanks but what the solution now
[17:58] <saintbasil_> I am unable to mount any device with a hard drive in it via USB. I tried an external HDD, and a Sony Walkman. Both devices mounted fine on my Windows partition and on a separate Ubuntu PC, o I know they are not the problem. I get the following error: http://pastebin.com/1h84NvBx My dmesg gives: http://pastebin.com/GcNaCpGj and my fstab is: http://pastebin.com/yTz7puDg Any clue what's wrong??
[17:58] <evilvish> mena: what file are you trying to open?
[17:58] <thut> schnuffle: done:http://pastebin.com/SyWHRuNV
[17:59] <mena> log file viewer
[17:59] <mena> evilvish, log file Viewer
[17:59] <evilvish> mena: log file viewer is an application, what file are you opening with it?
[18:00] <philipholland> apologise for newbieness. how do I get the upside down l sign?
[18:00] <newby115> ruan- is it a file I have to edit or just numbers in the terminal that I can change?
[18:00] <ruan> newby115: it's a gui
[18:00] <kriume> how do i download from this page?? http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Download#Source
[18:00] <mena> Evilvish, steps are system-> Administration-> log file Viewer
[18:00] <ruan> newby115: that's launched from a terminal
[18:00] <mena> /var/log/btmp
[18:00] <Babaghanoush> r = upside down l
[18:00] <erUSUL> kriume: if you want to install deluge do it from software sources
[18:00] <mena> Vilvish, /var/log/btmp
[18:00] <nishttal2> does anyone know what port VNC server uses by default
[18:01] <newby115> ruan-gui that sounds good. ok mate thanks for that. Wish me luck. : )
[18:01] <mena> evilvish, /var/log/btmp
[18:01] <evilvish> mena: right, i see that too, but why are you worried about it?
[18:01] <evilvish> mena: its not a problem
[18:01] <kriume> erUSUL: how?
[18:01] <erUSUL> kriume: soryy from ubuntu software center. just search for it
[18:01] <philipholland> Babaghanoush - not an R or r this is a an upright with a right angle facing backwards I need it to write fdisk- x
[18:02] <erUSUL> !software | kriume
[18:02] <mena> ok from few time i see that some one connect remotly my desktop i think he isd hacker
[18:02] <mena> can i know who this one
[18:02] <schnuffle> thut: there are some meta packages that you should keep but you can uninstall the rest
[18:02] <mena> Evilvish
[18:02] <khrm> What is his ip?
[18:02] <mena> ?
[18:03] <kriume> erUSUL i searched for it in ubuntu software center... it doesent find it
[18:03] <evilvish> mena: rest assured /var/log/btmp error is not a problem …  and not an indication of a hacker
[18:03] <khrm> By the way setup the firewall using gufw. Install it.
[18:03] <erUSUL> !find deluge
[18:03] <[TK]D-Fender> kriume: Go look in Synaptic
[18:03] <erUSUL> kriume: it is there
[18:03] <snowed> Hello i have problems installing Ubunutu. On second screen when u choose option to install mp3/flash. And i proceed installer will freze
[18:03] <mena> can i know whi this person hack me?
[18:04] <mena> who?
[18:04] <ruan> mena: what makes you think someone hacked you?
[18:04] <kriume> yeah it was in synaptic
[18:04] <kriume> thx
[18:04] <GOMI> is theire an alternative for adobe flash ?? because its slowing my vids down i think ???
[18:04] <snowed> Hello i have problems installing Ubunutu. On second screen when u choose option to install mp3/flash. And i proceed installer will freze
[18:04] <mena> i see the notification icone that someone connect to my desktop by mobile
[18:04] <schnuffle> thut: if you prefer a tool that does the whole job and just asks you, maybe you're better off with debfoster
[18:04] <mena> and i see mouse around
[18:05] <mena> ruan?
[18:05] <[TK]D-Fender> snowed: Install without them and you can add them later
[18:05] <Babaghanoush> ⅂
[18:06] <mena> Evilvish?
[18:06] <snowed> i tryed every option on that screen fender
[18:06] <snowed> i cant pass over that step
[18:06] <thut> schnuffle: ok, I will try debforster. The thing is a want to clean up some diskspace and I got a whole lot of KDE-packages installed which I don't need anymore.
[18:07] <evilvish> mena: i dont know who is hacking you.. or is trying to or how to track the person
[18:07] <ttomek> how can i speed up mouse scroll? (ubuntu 10.10)
[18:07] <schnuffle> thut: then just uninstall kde4libs which will eliminate all the rest as well
[18:07] <skulltip> hi, need some advise. i'm setting an ubuntu 10.10 32bit pc up for my mom, her old pc has bit the dust. she lives alone and has bad vision - uses glasses and resolution as low as 800x600. do i need to give her a complicated password, she only uses it to play games, pay bills, and email.
[18:08] <skulltip> in other words is it good idea to give root some password?
[18:08] <mena> evilvish? can you solve and explaon to my about The file is not a regular file or is not a text file.?
[18:08] <mena> i need your explaination
[18:08] <schnuffle> thut: sudo apt-get purge kdelibs5
[18:09] <skulltip> and can i set up automatic updates without her intervention of typing in the password, so they are automatic. only using the default repos.
[18:09] <khrm> skulltip Yes. Absolutely. But I don't think we generally setup root in ubuntu. Your mum will not need it. It doesn't ask for  it. We just use sudo.
[18:09] <thut> schnuffle: When I am doing 'sudo apt-get remove kde4libs' I get an 'unable to locate' answer
[18:09] <phonex01> Hello !
[18:09] <evilvish> mena: that is not a hacked issue, thats all it know.. it is a regular error from log file viewer if the file is not a text file
[18:09] <schnuffle> thut: sudo apt-get purge kdelibs5
[18:09] <phonex01> good night guys
[18:09] <miketomdool> nighty night
[18:09] <nezZario> hm
[18:10] <jpds> skulltip: You can set up autoupdates with the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic file.
[18:10] <mena> evilvish....how can i solve it
[18:10] <mena> ?
[18:10] <phonex01> is there any pic simulator for ubuntu like Protoes ?
[18:10] <kriume> i tried to uinstall transmission by writing  "sudo apt-get remove transmission" but its not gone ??
[18:10] <evilvish> mena: mena just click the "close" button
[18:10] <skulltip> thanks
[18:11] <rizzuh> How do I set the start/meta key to open kickoff (KDE's "Start" menu)?
[18:11] <mena> evilvish all of time i ope it i need to close thre is any solution?
[18:11] <evilvish> mena: i dont know.. :)
[18:12] <mena> evilvish , Thanks a lot
[18:12] <evilvish> mena: the reason why you get the error is because the type for that file is "unknown (application/octet-stream)"
[18:13] <mena> i cant understant what you mean?
[18:14] <thut> schnuffle: kde5libs not installed.
[18:14] <llutz> mena: "ls -l /var/log/btmp"
[18:14] <schnuffle> thut: which version of ubuntu?
[18:14] <kriume> i tried to uinstall transmission by writing  "sudo apt-get remove transmission" but its not gone ??
[18:15] <thut> schnuffle: the latest one
[18:15] <llutz> !pm | mena
[18:15] <schnuffle> thut: 10.10?
[18:15] <mena> ok
[18:15] <mena> i am so sorry
[18:16] <OpenJoke49926> hello everybody
[18:16] <mena> llutz, nice to meet you
[18:16] <Azzurrio> ask for something
[18:16] <llutz> mena: what was the output?
[18:16] <mena> i have a big roplem
[18:16] <Azzurrio> best Codec
[18:16] <Azzurrio> for ubuntu
[18:16] <Azzurrio> any help?
[18:16] <OpenJoke49926> !list
[18:16] <schnuffle> thut: kde3 or kde4?
[18:16] <mena> when i open system->administration->log file viewer
[18:17] <llutz> mena: what is the output of "ls -l /var/log/btmp" ?
[18:17] <kriume> i tried to uinstall transmission by writing  "sudo apt-get remove transmission" but its not gone ??
[18:17] <mena> error message that The file is not a regular file or is not a text file.
[18:17] <kriume> i tried to uinstall transmission by writing  "sudo apt-get remove transmission" but its not gone ?? how do i uninstall??+
[18:17] <mena> llutz, -rw-rw-r-- 1 root utmp 1152 2011-03-14 19:18 /var/log/btmp
[18:17] <zvacet> kriume : how did you install it?
[18:17] <mena> llutz, the ouput is "-rw-rw-r-- 1 root utmp 1152 2011-03-14 19:18 /var/log/btmp
[18:17] <mena> "
[18:18] <kriume> zvacet: i dident,... it cama with ubuntu... Transmission bittorrent client??
[18:18] <thut> schnuffle: I have'nt really got kde installed, just some packages that a program(now removed) required.
[18:18] <llutz> mena: "file /var/log/btmp"
[18:19] <zvacet> kriume : sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq transmission
[18:20] <mena> llutz, /var/log/btmp: data
[18:20] <schnuffle> thut: aaaaah :), so you want to uninstall all qt based packages? if so just uninstall the qt libs: sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt libqt4-core kdelibs4* arts
[18:21] <thut> schnuffle: what is qt based packages?
[18:21] <katsrc> i need to buy a printer are they any recommendations for ubuntu compatibility ?
[18:21] <schnuffle> thut: when you run deboster it will go through the installed packags and ask you what you want to keep
[18:21] <llutz> mena: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1458975
[18:21] <kriume> zvacet: i writed that but i get "dpkg: advarsel: ignoring request to remove transmission which isn't installed." but transmission is still in the meny, and if i click on it it opens too...?
[18:22] <schnuffle> thut: qt is the framework for kde apps, gtk+ is the one for gnome
[18:22] <mena> llutz, can you explasin me what this exactly
[18:22] <mena> explain
[18:22] <adrien_> hello
[18:22] <llutz> mena: finally "a known bug"
[18:23] <adrien_> can I ask a question please ? :)
[18:23] <mena> thr reson?
[18:23] <mena> the
[18:23] <mena> the reson?
[18:23] <mena> llutz,Why
[18:23] <llutz> mena: read the forum-thread
[18:23] <schnuffle> adrien_: of course :)
[18:23] <adrien_> thanx
[18:23] <patrykr>  Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)   how to edit this config file??
[18:23] <HelloKiddie33> is this forum to ask questions about ubuntu
[18:23] <mena> ok, can i ask you another question plz,llutz?
[18:24] <schnuffle> HelloKiddie33: yes
[18:24] <adrien_> do you now a bash command in order to open a streaming in vlc ?
[18:24] <llutz> mena: just ask in the channel
[18:24] <thut> schnuffle: it asks me if I want to keep ubuntu-desktop??
[18:24] <mena> ok
[18:24] <mena> i ask here?
[18:24] <mena> llutz, ok?
[18:24] <schnuffle> thut: so you should say yes, which is the default choice
[18:25] <adrien_> do you now a bash command in order to open a streaming in vlc
[18:25] <llutz> mena: just ask, if someone knows help, he'll possibly anser
[18:25] <adrien_> ?
[18:25] <llutz> answer
[18:25] <mena> ok
[18:25] <schnuffle> adrien_: you mean you have a URL and want a command to open that URL in vlc?
[18:25] <HelloKiddie33> How come ClamTK virus scanner doesn't seem to recognize audio cds?
[18:25] <adrien_> schnuffle : yes it's that. In bash command
[18:26] <mena> llutz, a few hours i see someone connect remotely to my desktop as notification i see
[18:26] <mena> can i know how this person hack me
[18:26] <zvacet> kriume : see in synaptic for all transmission packages and try to remove them from there
[18:26] <mena> any way to know ?
[18:27] <thut> schnuffle: it then removes 626 packages??
[18:27] <schnuffle> adrien_: have you tried: vlc <stream url>
[18:27] <schnuffle> adrien_: http://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_command-line_help
[18:27] <jiltdil> mena:may u plz repeat ur question i want to know ur question/
[18:28] <adrien_> schnuffle : No, i didn't found with google. Indeed, it's for a foxboard, i wanna open the video camera stream in vlc
[18:28] <adrien_> thanks to you
[18:28] <adrien_> ;)
[18:28] <schnuffle> thut: it removes x packages when you do what?
[18:28] <slev1> Source: chromium-bsu
[18:28] <slev1> Version: 0.9.14-1
[18:28] <slev1> Linux 2.6.32-29-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 11 20:52:10 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:28] <slev1> Missing Plug-in
[18:28] <mena> jitdil, afew hourse i see error notification that a person now connect to my desktop
[18:28] <slev1> http://yatv.ru/admiral-disco/
[18:29] <schnuffle> thut: off to lunch back in some minutes
[18:29] <mena> i see the mouse take and the connection icon
[18:29] <MarconM> caonical let out gnome ???
[18:30] <mena> jiltdil?
[18:30] <jiltdil> mena: don't know much
[18:31] <HelloKiddie33> How come ClamTK virus scanner doesn't seem to recognize audio cds?
[18:31] <mena> hey, any one can help me plz?
[18:31] <jiltdil> mena: how u know that a person is connected to ur comp?
[18:31] <giantpune> hey guys.  i jsut had my computer freeze for no apparent reason.  and now that i have restarted it, it is acting really weird.  it starts up with a bunch of error prompts saying that it cant load some applets and there is no clock/volume/ect applets at the top right of my screen.  and on the bottom panel, it doesnt show any taskbar entries for any windows i have open
[18:31] <mena> i see him
[18:31] <giantpune> firefox crashes imediately when i try to open it, so i dont know where else to look for for help
[18:32] <mena> i see connection icon and message told me someone from mobil connect to my desktop
[18:32] <mena> jiltdil?
[18:32] <adrien_> i'm sorry but i've another question. It must be harder. In fact, i'm programming a foxboard, so i'm creating a program to open the ssh and the stream (for the moment). But i use command system("my command") to call bash commands. The problem is that my system command don't work from the moment i'm in the foxboard
[18:32] <jiltdil> menaa: r ur bluetooth is active
[18:32] <jiltdil> mena: r ur bluetooth is active
[18:33] <mena> i didn't have bluetooth device
[18:33] <mena> i have wireless cad
[18:33] <mena> card
[18:33] <jiltdil> mena:it is paasword protected or not?
[18:33] <DIL> var/log/messages should reveal
[18:33] <mena> jiltdil, how can i know thant?
[18:34] <mena> jiltdil, hwo can i jnow if my paswoed protect or not?
[18:34] <jiltdil> mena:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1047330
[18:34] <steve1> I'm trying to configure my system to use "ssh://" links in a web browser.  I got as far as seeing "gnome-open" is delegated to identify what program to run, but I've hit a dead-end since it doesn't know, and I don't know how to configure "gnome-open".  Can anyone point me in the right direction for configuring "gnome-open"?
[18:34] <giantpune> does anybody where i can look in ubuntu to see what is broken and how to fix it?
[18:35] <jiltdil> mena: can u paste me the output of this  sudo /etc/passwd
[18:35] <figure002> i want to change the passphrase of my GPG key; what effect does that have on my public and private key?
[18:36] <llutz> jiltdil: "sudo /etc/passwd"   is missing something and you should use "getent passwd" instead
[18:37] <mena> jiltdil, can i know what do this comaamd?
[18:37] <saintbasil_> Help! I am unable to mount any device with a hard drive in it via USB. I tried an external HDD, and a Sony Walkman. Both devices mounted fine on my Windows partition and on a separate Ubuntu PC, o I know they are not the problem. I get the following error: http://pastebin.com/1h84NvBx My dmesg gives: http://pastebin.com/GcNaCpGj and my fstab is: http://pastebin.com/yTz7puDg Any clue what's wrong??
[18:37] <jiltdil> mena: see what llutz said
[18:38] <mena> llutz, can you explain to me what do this command?
[18:38] <NatureTM> Hi, I'm having trouble getting intel softRAID going.  I was able to assemble the disks with dmraid and add partitions with parted, however dmraid doesn't seem to want to enable the partitions.
[18:38] <llutz> mena: it lists your passwd-file
[18:39] <thut> schnuffle: I am off to lunch too..
[18:39] <NatureTM> so I only have 1 dev node for the entire disk
[18:39] <jiltdil> mena: give the output of that
[18:40] <steve1> saintbasil_: personally I'd try removing the /dev/sdb1 line from your /etc/fstab file if that CDROM drive is no longer connected.
[18:40] <mena> llutz please send me a command?
[18:40] <ruan> HelloKiddie33: why would you want to scan an audio cd for viruses?
[18:40] <saintbasil_> steve1: just delete it?
[18:41] <HelloKiddie33> Ruan, just to be thorough
[18:41] <jiltdil> mena: firstly tell me the output of sudo service ssh status
[18:41] <steve1> saintbasil_: eh, comment it out (put a # in front of it) just to be safe.  just the /dev/sdb1 line.
[18:41] <saintbasil_> steve1: do i need to reboot?
[18:41] <jiltdil> mena; and also of sudo getent passwd
[18:42] <steve1> saintbasil_: I don't think so.  try it without a reboot first.
[18:42] <mena> jiltdil, ssh: unrecognized service
[18:42] <saintbasil_> steve1: it worked! thank you very much!
[18:43] <jiltdil> mena: ok now give the output of sudo getent passwd
[18:43] <steve1> saintbasil_: glad to hear it.  you're very welcome.
[18:44] <saintbasil_> steve1: i can access my external HDD, but i cant edit it; it was formatted on a mac. how can i gain editting access?
[18:44] <mena> jiltdil, can i understand the resolte of the last command?
[18:44] <jiltdil> mena: which one?
[18:45] <mena> jiltdil, sudo getent passwd
[18:46] <jiltdil> mena: it shows thst ur ssh connection is active or not it is for remote acess via command line
[18:46] <jiltdil> mena: that was for ssh
[18:46] <jiltdil> mena: and for getent passwd it shows all the users to ur comp ur passwd file
[18:46] <steve1> saintbasil_: check out http://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write
[18:46] <judgen> When you install grub(2) in the mbr. Will the entire MBR be cleared during the process or are there bytes that is not touched? i am trying to rid my windows disk from a rootkit that is in the last bytes of the MBR using my ubuntu partition.
[18:48] <llutz> judgen: nope, maximum 440 bytes (of 512)
[18:48] <judgen> llutz: how do i clear the last bytes then?
[18:48] <llutz> judgen: you shouldn't, it contains the partition table
[18:49] <judgen> llutz: even so, i can reinstall everything just as long as i am sure that there is nothing left of that vicious rootkit left on the disk. I have nothing of importance on the drives anyways.
[18:49] <jiltdil> mena: read this and password protect ur net http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1093766
[18:50] <judgen> llutz: the partition table is altered by me recently. So those bytes should be overwritten then?
[18:50] <ajah> how can routing internet connection from my wired interface to my wireless interface through terminal
[18:50] <llutz> judgen:sudo  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda count=1                  would clean all
[18:50] <llutz> judgen: but then you have a "virgin" disk. no bootloader, no partitions
[18:51] <Realcoolguy> Judgen: I would just zero out the drive at this point
[18:51] <judgen> llutz: would the process take a very long time?
[18:51] <llutz> judgen: 0.01 sec
[18:52] <judgen> llutz: is dd installed by default on the net-boot disk? as i guess i can not run it from active partition.. right?
[18:52] <llutz> judgen: what are we speaking about "MBR using my ubuntu partition."      MBR or ubuntu partition? those are different things
[18:52] <jiltdil> is there any way to convert text file to pdf via termainl?
[18:53] <safeWay> hello, one guy told me a command in terminal after I typed I cannot watch videos in fullscreen
[18:53] <safeWay> it was something about flash
[18:53] <psusi> wow... tar takes 9m39s to back up my linux-kernel Maildir to null... dump does the job in only 10 seconds
[18:53] <steve1> safeWay: in terminal type: history | grep flash
[18:54] <judgen> llutz: i want the disks to be virgin clean, so that no bits are left at all. The rootkit i have contracted on my windows disk puts some code in the MBR and then the rest of the code in free space on the drive and is highly encrypted.
[18:54] <GOMI> my flash videos are choppy it seems its a big problem on the forums is theire a fix ?
[18:54] <safeWay> steve1: http://jsfiddle.net/H4LmV/1/
[18:54] <safeWay> ups
[18:54] <ruan> a MBR rootkit x_x
[18:54] <jenna> what does one have to do to see the error log from when ubuntu starts up?
[18:54] <safeWay> steve1: 243  history | grep flash
[18:54] <llutz> judgen:sudo  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda count=1                  would clean the MBR
[18:54] <mena> jiltdil?
[18:55] <mena> llutz?
[18:55] <judgen> llutz: i will use that. Hopefully it will be spankingly good for it =D
[18:55] <safeWay> when i watched in fullscreen i got some white flashes now i cannot watch in fullscreen at all
[18:55] <llutz> judgen: i don't know if the netinstall-cd comes with dd, i'd guess yes
[18:55] <Realcoolguy> dd is amazing
[18:55] <jiltdil> mena:what happend?
[18:55] <steve1> safeWay: that would indicate nothing was ran in terminal with the word "flash".  if you can think of any of the words that was executed, replace "flash" in that command with the word you remember.
[18:55] <mena> i send the result
[18:56] <jiltdil> Realcoolguy:also shred is fantastic but if use use it safely
[18:56] <llutz> jiltdil: install cups-pdf    "lpr -P pdf foo.txt"
[18:56] <mena> jiltdil
[18:56] <llutz> jiltdil: if the pdf-printer is named "pdf"
[18:56] <mena> jiltdil , the output is dige
[18:56] <jiltdil> llutz: ok this turns text file to pdf
[18:57] <Realcoolguy> Use it safely? Maybe when I ascend net hack
[18:57] <mena> jiltdil, which line yiu need see from output?
[18:57] <brightspark> does anyone know why I get a message running apt-get: "dpkg: warning: files list file for package `foxitreader' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed."
[18:58] <crohakon> What is a good, free, alternative to cPanel to manage shared hosting?
[18:58] <mena> jiltdil, which line you need see from ouput?
[18:59] <Roasted_> Underneath top I'm trying to see which listing here is the overall listing of what exactly the processor is doing. For example, if it's running @ half capacity, which entry within top corresponds with it running at 50%? I see US, SY, NI, ID, WA, HI, SI, ST, etc.
[19:00] <jiltdil> mena: left all thes just restart ur comp pull up all ur conections for a while and then connect al  affter this set p th epassword
[19:00] <Yoinx> crohakon, that's not really Ubuntu specific... maybe ask on serverfault?
[19:00] <Yoinx> here's a link where someone else asked the same thing. http://serverfault.com/questions/3410/which-free-open-source-cpanel-and-whm-alternatives-do-you-recommend-use
[19:00] <crohakon> thanks mate
[19:01] <alnewkirk-away> hey guys, having trouble relaying internet access thru my pptp server
[19:01] <mena> jiltdil, i can't understant you mean. i just beginner not professionl can you help me more?
[19:01] <Yoinx> np
[19:01] <alnewkirk-away> i can connect but i cant relay internet
[19:02] <Yoinx> Alnewkirk, how do you have it setup/
[19:02] <bruteforce_allti> Hi, I want to cut a video in mpeg format. Please suggest a utility for this
[19:02] <jiltdil> mena: its the safe to shutdown ur comp for a while and pull all ur wires that is connected to ur system also off ur router if u r hacked and then restart the comp
[19:02] <llutz> !u | jiltdil
[19:02] <gnum> hi guys
[19:02] <khrm> crohakon http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels
[19:03] <gnum> has anyone encountered tha drag & drop issue with wine???
[19:03] <Yoinx> nice one llutz.
[19:03] <mena> jiltdil, Good but you mean i shutdown my com now, with whic command?
[19:03] <Yoinx> There's always issues with wine gnum... might be better to ask on their channel.
[19:03] <gnum> thnx
[19:03] <safeWay> steve1:
[19:03] <safeWay> steve1: i don't remember
[19:04] <gnum> indeed wine is a pain in the a** but its cool on the other hand
[19:04] <safeWay> the guy mention somethig about windows flash..
[19:04] <alnewkirk-away> Yoinx, im using pptpd, http://paste.ubuntu.com/580248/
[19:04] <safeWay> and he said i will turn off that with that command
[19:04] <safeWay> :S
[19:04] <jiltdil> sudo init 0   or shutdown by shutdown -h now or ctrl+alt+del or just clicking shutdown optin in your computer
[19:05] <steve1> safeWay: the only other option, then, is to read through each of your commands by reading through the output of the command:  history
[19:05] <Yoinx> alnewkirk, You didn't really have to paste the ips... I was just wondering how you set it up... IE. is it actually on an ubuntu server?
[19:05] <mena> jiltdil, sudo int 0?
[19:05] <Yoinx> Or are you just trying to connect from your ubuntu computer?
[19:06] <jiltdil> mena: sudo init 0   or shutdown by shutdown -h now or ctrl+alt+del or just clicking shutdown optin in your computer. completely power off your computer .yes ude if u want init 0
[19:07] <Yoinx> I'm going to assume you're just using pptpclient http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/#gettingstarted
[19:07] <safeWay> what is this  201  netstat -tunap | grep 80
[19:07] <Bipul`> i can not able to see online videos specially divx movies
[19:07] <alnewkirk-away> Yoinx, im setting up a pptp server on my ubuntu server and trying to connect to it from my window machine
[19:07] <mena> jiltdil, okay can you wait me after restart to ask you some question?
[19:07] <Naphidia> hey guys... whats a good opensource blogging package for a single user that i can install with apt-get ?
[19:07] <drag0nz> hey guys, if i have 5 files ending with file.ext01 file.ext02 and so on, would it work if i use "scp file.ext* user@host:./" ?
[19:07] <llutz> drag0nz: yes
[19:08] <Naphidia> ?
[19:08] <jiltdil> mena: ok but don't forget to complete poweroff your system and pulling all your connection
[19:08] <alnewkirk-away> Yoinx, no im using pptp server on my ubuntu server and trying to connect to it using windows vpn client
[19:08] <drag0nz> llutz, so it will send all 5 files like that? cool thanks
[19:08] <Naphidia> can anyone recommend a opensource blog type software
[19:08] <Naphidia> ?>
[19:09] <Yoinx> That's at least more information... asking a question with a broad specification would be like coming in here and just saying "My http isn't working"
[19:09] <Yoinx> But, anyway. Did you follow a guide to setup the server?
[19:09] <alnewkirk-away> Naphidia, wordpress, movabletype
[19:09] <Naphidia> can i install that with apt-get
[19:09] <Naphidia> ?
[19:09] <alnewkirk-away> Naphidia, not sure, probably
[19:10] <Yoinx> Naph, doubt it. they're web software... you'd install the webserver/frameworks and then put them into it.
[19:10] <brightspark> Does anyone know why I get this message running apt-get: "dpkg: warning: files list file for package `foxitreader' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed."
[19:10] <alnewkirk-away> Yoinx, i have it installed and configured correctly but the setup is not right, I can connect and authenticate but I can't resolve domain names or ips once connected
[19:11] <jiltdil> llutz:lpr - pdf foo.txt doenot create pdf
[19:11] <Yoinx> yeah Al, I was asking because just looking at a few guides for it so far (they were for 10.04 though) you have to uncomment the lines to allow ipv4. If you just installed the server and didn't uncomment the lines, that might be causing you problems
[19:11] <alnewkirk-away> Yoinx, ... which per googling seems to be a common problem with no straight-forward solution
[19:11] <Yoinx> ...Thats why I was wondering if you had used a guide to set it up
[19:12] <alnewkirk-away> I had used a guide and uncommented those lines
[19:12] <alnewkirk-away> still .... no dice :\
[19:12] <Yoinx> I don't really have much experience with it. But, at least you've given enough information if someone else does
[19:13] <physically_fit> how do I move the window of my clock settings: the top of that window is much higher than the top of my screen and I cant't see the button to set the clock. I restarted my pc and still can't move it.
[19:13] <mena> jiltdil, i come back again
[19:13] <mena> jiltdil, can we continue now?
[19:13] <Naphidia> yeah im running this webserver i got for free
[19:13] <Yoinx> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-pptp-vpn-server-with-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html < thats the guide I was looking at though. Looks liek there were a few gotchas
[19:13] <alnewkirk-away> Yoinx, thanks anyway
[19:13] <Naphidia> http://www.newfiemedia.ca/sysinfo
[19:13] <Naphidia> i wana put my blog on there
[19:13] <alnewkirk-away> Yoinx, thats the one i used to do the initial setup
[19:14] <joeb_> sudo aptitiude kubuntu-kde4-desktop <-- is this the best way to install kde ?
[19:14] <physically_fit> help me. how do I move the window of my clock settings: the top of that window is much higher than the top of my screen and I cant't see the button to set the clock. I restarted my pc and still can't move it. i right clicken on the task bar and the option "move" is greyed out.
[19:15] <oCean> Naphidia: how is that related to #ubuntu?
[19:15] <ruan> physically_fit: right click it and uncheck "lock to panel"
[19:15] <Naphidia> i want to install opensource package... of ffs this isnt debian
[19:15] <ruan> physically_fit: then move
[19:15] <mena> jiltdil?
[19:15] <Yoinx> looks like most people do it in reverse too alnewkirk-away
[19:15] <oCean> Naphidia: it says 'debian squeeze'
[19:16] <Naphidia> yea
[19:16] <Naphidia> i thought it was ubuntu
[19:16] <Naphidia> i was just given this thing
[19:16] <oCean> Naphidia: it's offtopic
[19:16] <physically_fit> ruan, but that moves the clock on my taskbar, i want to move the window that opens when i click on the clock to see its settings
[19:16] <stianhj> physically_fit, can you see the bottom of it?
[19:16] <Naphidia> perhaps... it dont matter anyways... i only asked for opinion on opensource blogging software for ubuntu
[19:16] <Naphidia> :)
[19:17] <physically_fit> stianhj, yes, i see a worldmap
[19:17] <mena> hey, i need help plz?
[19:17] <oCean> Naphidia: this channel is for support. Better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:17] <Naphidia> which still fits under the topic if i were to install it on a ubuntu server
[19:17] <stianhj> physically_fit, if you can reach it, you can ALT-LeftClick and drag it
[19:17] <[TK]D-Fender> Naphidia: that would be "blogging scripts", because there is generally no binary for any of this.
[19:17] <oCean> Naphidia: no, this is not the channel for opinions
[19:17] <unlock> hey guys
[19:17] <[TK]D-Fender> Naphidia: this really isn't an OS issue
[19:17] <stianhj> physically_fit, wait, the dropdown thing when you click the gnome-panel clock has moved? i can't even move mine
[19:17] <physically_fit> stianhj, it doesn't move, nither right or left click.
[19:17] <Naphidia> neither is vpn :P and your talking about
[19:17] <Naphidia> lol
[19:18] <unlock> how can i send a ping-cmd with all network devices
[19:18] <Naphidia> Hypocrit
[19:18] <llutz> jiltdil: install cups-pdf    "lpr -P pdf foo.txt"   if your pdf-printer is named "pdf"
[19:18] <stianhj> physically_fit, right click on the clock, remove from panel, and add it again
[19:18] <llutz> jiltdil: resulting pdf in ~/PDF
[19:18] <[TK]D-Fender> Naphidia: VPN can be as at least that is a program which also has kernel dependencies, etc
[19:18] <jiltdil> llutz: didn't get u
[19:18] <stianhj> unlock, for i in `seq 1 255`; do ping -c 1 192.168.1.$i; done
[19:19] <mena> jiltdin!!!!
[19:19] <Naphidia> no matter i got what i wanted i just apt-get install wordpress
[19:19] <Naphidia> it works
[19:19] <mena> jiltdil, can we continue now?plz
[19:19] <unlock> stianhj: thx :)
[19:19] <[TK]D-Fender> Naphidia: If you've got a problem installing Apache on your Ubuntu server then I'm sure we'll be able to lend a hand...
[19:19] <llutz> unlock: ping -b 192.168.0.255
[19:19] <babu__> how to make the my storage drives to auto load whenver i'm booting
[19:19] <Naphidia> im running ubuntu in a virtual server
[19:19] <Jessi_> Hi, um... i'm hacving trouble, can somebody help me?
[19:19] <bp0> Hello. Ubuntu has stopped mounting my swap partition at startup, what might be wrong?
[19:19] <physically_fit> stianhj, THANK YOU very much! that solved my problem. thanks again ^_^
[19:20] <jiltdil> mena: so is there the connection or not?
[19:20] <Yoinx> Sorry Jessi_, you only get 1 question per day. You just used yours.
[19:20] <oCean> Yoinx: stop that
[19:20] <stianhj> what's the 'just ask your question' command?
[19:20] <mena> jiltdil, which you mean exactlu?
[19:20] <Jessi_> huh?
[19:20] <mena> jiltdil, ?
[19:20] <khrm> bpO gives the ouptput of : fdis -ls and contents of /etc/fstab
[19:20] <stianhj> Jessi_, he's joking.. ask your question
[19:20] <oCean> Jessi_: just ignore Yoinx and aks away
[19:21] <Yoinx> lol
[19:21] <oCean> Yoinx: don't
[19:21] <babu__> how to make the my storage drives to auto load whenver i'm booting
[19:21] <Yoinx> babu, you have to put them in fstab
[19:21] <ruan> !fstab
[19:21] <unlock> llutz: stianhj: i dont mean a broadcast, i mean a ping with wlan-devices, lan-devices, ...
[19:21] <llutz> babu__: add them to /etc/fstab
[19:22] <Jessi_> oh lol, i just installed ubuntu for the first time and i'm getting an "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/56089d8f-49a1-4f8a-db0ec87f200d does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" what do i do?
[19:22] <llutz> unlock: to do what?
[19:22] <Yoinx> Wow, thats an odd... mount device.
[19:22] <mena> jiltdil?
[19:23] <babu__> what's the format...when i browsed,it prompted me to enter the uuid of the drive
[19:23] <ruan> Jessi_: looks like it failed to find the disk on first boot
[19:23] <mena> plz i need help !
[19:24] <mena> anyone free now can help me?
[19:24] <Jessi_> ruan: ok, so what do i do to fix it?
[19:24] <oCean> !helpme | mena
[19:24] <mena> plz
[19:24] <jiltdil> mena; i helped at my most perhabs somebody may help you
[19:25] <ruan> Jessi_: i dont really know :S
[19:25] <ruan> too tired atm
[19:25] <h00k> !away | ruan|sleep
[19:25] <khrm> mena: whats the problem? I am juggling many irc I seems to have miss yours?
[19:26] <babu__> what's the format...when i browsed,it prompted me to enter the uuid of the drive
[19:26] <Jessi_> I've already reinstalled once, its trying to run along side windows on one hardrive and 2 storage hard drive
[19:26] <mena> Khm, thanks a lot for your effort
[19:27] <aroman> hey, can someone help me set up my HP printer? I'm getting this error: "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-not-possible'."
[19:27] <mena> Khm, my problem breifly that a few hours someone hacked me i see him which the mous around and the notification icon show that one connect to my desktop now
[19:27] <[TK]D-Fender> mena: Go look at your desktop sharing and help options under System
[19:28] <MarconM> how i can to resove this " mutter is running "  my ubuntu desktop 10.10, dont active compiz effect
[19:28] <mena> Fender, explain?
[19:28] <abhijeet> is there any command line interface to the sound preference ..  I want to change the output H/w using cie
[19:28] <abhijeet> cli*
[19:28] <[TK]D-Fender> mena: Wht is there to explain?  Go into the SYSTEM MENU and look at all of the HELP and SHARING type options.
[19:29] <[TK]D-Fender> mena: See if you left one enabled some time while looking for help
[19:29] <donnib> i am trying to do sudo mount -t cifs /myserverip/share /media/share and i get asked for a password but there is no password on the CIFS share, what am i doing wrong ?
[19:29] <khrm> Well I think to prevent that use a firewall called ufw using it gui frontend. Enabled it and disabled incoming connection to application desktop viewver
[19:29] <khrm> Well I think to prevent that use a firewall called ufw using it gui frontend. Enabled it and disabled incoming connection to application desktop viewer
[19:29] <llutz> khrm: mena no, to prevent that, switch those desktop-sharing things OFF
[19:29] <jccorrea> hi people
[19:30] <mena> Fender, plz explain what do you mean, i am beginner with ubuntu not professional
[19:30] <brightspark> mean: click on System, Preferences, Remote Desktop and make sure it is not set to let other access your computer
[19:30] <mena> fender, i need learn from you
[19:30] <donnib> any ideas ?
[19:30] <[TK]D-Fender> mena: Look on your menu bar.  "SYSTEM" <-
[19:30] <jccorrea> anyone know a app to view the ink level?
[19:30] <khrm> iilutz how do you suggest to do that? I think blocking all incoming connection to desktop sharing will solve it.
[19:31] <mena> Fender, okay?
[19:31] <llutz> khrm: 1st step always is to stop unwanted services
[19:31] <oCean> ^ so true
[19:31] <llutz> khrm: hiding them by using iptables shouldn't be the preffered solution
[19:32] <mena> Fender, what's the next step after System->?
[19:32] <brightspark> mena: click on System, Preferences, Remote Desktop and make sure it is not set to let other access your computer
[19:33] <mena> brightsprk, ok i see that uncheck to can other remotly my com
[19:33] <llutz> khrm: i don't know how that desktop-sharing works (i never used it) but it should have an option to disable it (if it isn't heavily broken)
[19:33] <mena> but i need see whos connect to my con afew hours
[19:33] <mena> ?
[19:34] <mena> brightspark, i need to see by log file viewer whos connct to my com afew hourse
[19:34] <mena> ?
[19:34] <khrm> llutz I too haven't used it only ssh. Ubuntu shouldn't have it by default.
[19:34] <brightspark> mena: I don't know forensics well.  give me a few minutes and I'll get back to you
[19:35] <mena> brightspark, okay Good, i wait you
[19:36] <donnib> anyone can tell me how to mount an cifs share without credentials ?
[19:36] <offsense> anyone knows why i cant do snmpwalk, it always say Timeout: No response....
[19:36] <jrib> !samba | donnib
[19:37] <trism> mena: vino doesn't log connections (there is a bug for adding that feature), although there may be something in ~/.cache/notify-osd.log since it usually sends a notification when someone connects
[19:37] <cheche> offsense: possibly the port is closed
[19:37] <Guest98090> Hey, my cronjob isn't working.  I did crontab -e, it brought me to a page with a single comment
[19:37] <offsense> cheche: how do we open the port
[19:37] <Guest98090> I added this comment:  * * * * *  /bin/echo "kangaroo" >> /home/sean/kangaroo
[19:37] <Guest98090> It does not update the file
[19:37] <mena> trism, okay can you explain steps to help me
[19:37] <Guest98090> what gives?
[19:38] <cheche> offsense: ? what are you trying to do?
[19:38] <donnib> what does mount error(13) Permission denied mean besides Permission denied, can i get mount to log verbose ?
[19:39] <cannonball> donnib: there's probably a more verbose or explicit message in the logs of the nfs server.
[19:39] <offsense> cheche: i try to install cacti on my box, but it cant install new site, i suspect it might be a problem with my snmp
[19:39] <donnib> cannonball: how do i get to that ?
[19:39] <mena> trism, i see the mouse around as someone take with my mouse
[19:39] <Gledders> Hi everyone
[19:39] <trism> mena: type: gedit ~/.cache/notify-osd.log and look for a message that looks like "Someone has connected to this computer", I believe it gives the name of the system or possibly the ip, though it has been a while since I used vino
[19:39] <Guest98090> Did you guys see my message?
[19:39] <cheche> offsense: is ubuntu running on the machine that you trying to monitor?
[19:40] <trism> mena: is the person still connected? the notification area icon tells you who is connected if you click on it (may need to enable that in System/Preferences/Remote Desktop)
[19:40] <offsense> its a router that i try to monitor
[19:41] <mena> trism. no one connct noe because i shutdown  my com from afew min
[19:41] <cheche> offsense: say that you want to monitor 192.168.1.1. "telnet 192.168.1.1 161" see if that replies
[19:41] <brightspark> mena: it looks like that information isn't logged.  you could try typing "last" in the terminal.  Are there any names you don't recognise on that list?
[19:42] <mena> Trism, ago i chcked this option that can any one to connect remotly to my com but after this accident i unchecked
[19:42] <mena> brightspark, plz gine me the command plz?
[19:42] <mena> brightspark, give me the command olz?
[19:43] <mcdry84> !list
[19:43] <brightspark> click applications, accessories, terminal
[19:43] <brightspark> mena: ^
[19:43] <sje46> Hey, you guys missed my question
[19:43] <W4RH4WK> hello, i got problems with syslinux, i formated a usb stick with bootable partition, formated the partition with mkdosfs and used syslinux to setup the bootloader.... everything seams work right. i put the standard debian netinstall kernel and initrd on the partition and booted the usb stick --> isolinux.bin missing or corrupt, but syslinux doesn't put a isolinux.bin file on the usb stick (syslinux.cfg is there and got the correct con
[19:43] <W4RH4WK> tant to boot the kernel)
[19:43] <sje46> * * * * *  /bin/echo "kangaroo" >> /home/sean/kangaroo
[19:43] <brightspark> mena: then type in the word last
[19:44] <sje46> what's wrong with that crontab?
[19:44] <offsense> cheche: yup, iso.... keep looping
[19:44] <jpds> sje46: First one should be */1 ?
[19:44] <mena> brightspark, i type last in terminal, after that ?
[19:44] <cheche> offsense: is open?
[19:44] <TerribleTech> Anyone using Crunchbang (#!)
[19:44] <sje46> jpds: I was told by someone that you're supposed to use just *
[19:44] <brightspark> mena: press enter
[19:44] <offsense> cheche: what do u mean by open?
[19:44] <Arachon> Erm... my network-manager.conf seems to have disappeared...
[19:45] <cheche> offsense: to ge snmp working you need that port open on the router
[19:45] <mena> brightspark, okay i do it
[19:45] <sje46> jpds: I changed it though, lets see if it works
[19:45] <brightspark> are there any usernames in the left-hand column you don't recognise?
[19:46] <brightspark> mena:^
[19:46] <sje46> oh, it does
[19:46] <W4RH4WK> anyone got idea with my syslinux problem, where syslinux doesn't create a isolinux.bin file but requires it when booting
[19:46] <mena> brightspark, no just i see my name and "root"
[19:46] <sje46> jpds: thanks for answering my dumb question!
[19:47] <offsense> yes it is, i can login into it
[19:47] <mena> brightspark, the resulte is mena     pts/0        :0.0             Mon Mar 14 21:39   still logged in
[19:47] <mena> mena     tty7         :0               Mon Mar 14 21:11   still logged in
[19:47] <mena> reboot   system boot  2.6.32-29-generi Mon Mar 14 21:11 - 21:43  (00:32)
[19:47] <mena> mena     pts/0        :0.0             Mon Mar 14 20:43 - down   (00:24)
[19:47] <mena> mena     pts/0        :0.0             Mon Mar 14 20:37 - 20:43  (00:05)
[19:47] <mena> mena     pts/0        :0.0             Mon Mar 14 20:36 - 20:37  (00:01)
[19:47] <FloodBot2> mena: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:48] <brightspark> mena: Okay.  The information for which you are looking is not stored by remote desktop.  I'm sorry, but it looks like you won't be able to find out who was on your machine.
[19:48] <madsj> hi; pm-hibernate doesn't work in my system; it gives me an error message (didn't note it down, unfortunately), and the only choice for me is to power it off ungently; I use ubuntu 10.10 after having upgraded from 10.04 a few days ago
[19:49] <mena> brightspark, noo why we can't?
[19:49] <baddy> hio
[19:49] <mena> brightspark , i need to know whos this person
[19:50] <brightspark> mena:  do you know what this person did while on your computer?
[19:50] <mena> brightspark, i need to know how did him can to connect my pc, isee him when he walk with my mouse
[19:50] <baddy> i installed ubuntu with the grub boot mgr, but i also got windows 7, i just formatted windows 7 to install a fresh windows 7 on the same partition, but it wont install a fresh copy because it says can't make new partition, can someone help??
[19:50] <th0r> mena: I came in late so this may not help. All logins should be in /var/log/messages....the IP at least
[19:51] <w00tWins> good day ubuntu! quck question: i have a external hd thats ntfs (wd) and it connected and when i tried to add one of its folders to rhythmbox and then the external drive ejected...how do i get it to mount again?
[19:51] <jethrot> Please test out this editor and send me any bug reports (be descriptive!) http://sourceforge.net/projects/fed/files/
[19:52] <llutz> jethrot: stop linkspamming here
[19:52] <mena> brightspark, i show the mouse walk to open System->Performance->remot desktop
[19:52] <joeabbey> Hello, I'm runinnig Ubunutu 10.10 on a BeagleBoard xM
[19:52] <joeabbey> How do I get it to only boot to console mode?
[19:52] <mena> brightspark, i show hime open this window only
[19:52] <joeabbey> Let's try that again
[19:52] <Pici> jethrot: This is a support channel, please do not advertise here.
[19:52] <Pici> !guidelines > jethrot
[19:52] <MileHiDave> greetings.. I have 2 sata hd's with ubuntu and xp, ubuntu hd is first in bios boot order.. any links/tips to get a dual boot going?
[19:52] <joeabbey> I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 :)
[19:53] <hylian> my whole computer locks up upon playing a video, any video, although all my video's are in flv format. even locks up with mplayer from console. no ctrl-alt-f1 action, no alt-f4, no ctrl-alt-del... i can move the mouse, but can't click on anything...
[19:53] <llutz> joeabbey: add "text" to grubs boot options
[19:53] <makmanalp> hello, i'm trying to get the 3m microtouch touchscreen to work and i hit the bug described here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-mutouch/+bug/533502 . The end states that the bug is fixed in 11.04, does that mean that there is no way to use it in, say, 10.10?
[19:54] <joeabbey> llutz: I _think_ the beagle board is using uboot
[19:54] <brightspark> mena: If that is all he did, I don't think there will be enough information to find him.
[19:54] <jethrot> Pici how do I get my editor into an ubuntu distro??
[19:54] <joeabbey> llutz: Do you know if text will work similarly for that bootloarder?
[19:54] <hylian> makmanalp, let me take a look and see.
[19:54] <makmanalp> hylian: thank you
[19:54] <llutz> joeabbey: i don't know
[19:54] <brightspark> th0r: does that file show remote desktop logins?
[19:55] <joeabbey> llutz: thanks any way :)
[19:55] <th0r> brightspark: that should show all login attempts. I used to use it to block IP blocks using iptables
[19:55] <th0r> brightspark: then I found that using non-standard ports pretty much eliminates hack attempts.....no need to block IPs
[19:55] <mena> brightspark, what did you mean?
[19:56] <Pici> jethrot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu -- although you'll probably want to package it into a PPA in the meantime.
[19:56] <Andorin> Isn't there a command line tool that opens a window showing whether your webcam is working?
[19:56] <th0r> brightspark: course....haven't played much with such things in years...ubuntu might have eliminated that so it wouldn't confuse new users <smile>
[19:57] <hylian> makmanalp, it looks like fixing your problem in 10.10's version of xserver would create another problem. I think they are working on this, but then again perhaps they aren't because it will be available in 11.04. i would think they will get around to, eventually....
[19:57] <xhabeli> hi
[19:57] <xhabeli> hi _eclark
[19:57] <ferkku> hi everyone
[19:57] <jethrot> Pici what is a PPA
[19:58] <brightspark> th0r: thanks a bunch.  mena  claims he had someone else remote desktop into his computer.  He wants to find out who it was.
[19:58] <Ranjan> hello every body can any body can help me in finding uuid of my hard disk I can see two different values for this one is by executing "sudo blkid" and other is by reinstalling  uswsusp please help me figure out the correct value for uuid for my swap partision
[19:59] <Pici> jethrot: A personal package archive.  It lets users install software that isn't in the repos easily.  See https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA for more info.
[19:59] <hylian> does anyone have a better answer to makmanalp's question?
[19:59] <th0r> brightspark: well, if it was a remote access the IP should be in that log. Course, it is always possible to go through a proxy and hide your actual ip
[20:00] <W4RH4WK> anyone got idea with my syslinux problem, where syslinux doesn't create a isolinux.bin file but requires it when booting
[20:00] <yuzodo> jethrot, see my PM
[20:00] <hylian> why would playing a video, in flv format, in totem or mplayer lock up the whole machine?
[20:00] <MileHiDave> hylian: cuz you were watching pron and that is naughty? j/k
[20:00] <hylian> MileHiDave, pron?
[20:01] <MileHiDave> hylian: aka porn
[20:01] <mena> brightspark : Are you her?
[20:01] <hylian> MileHiDave, i was watching pod's youth of the nation, but it did the same thing on another flv video
[20:01] <leftiness> I expect this will solve my fglrx/catalyst problems,  but I'm uncertain how to use it: (http://bugs2.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=33460).
[20:02] <MileHiDave> hylian: do all flv lock you up?
[20:02] <hylian> MileHiDave, all video's do. an avi did it too.
[20:02] <brightspark> mena: I'm here.  As per th0r, you may be able to find the IP address of the intruder by opening the terminal and typing more /var/log/messages
[20:02] <aboutaboy> need help deciphering why my pptp-server connection fails ... syslog dump (minified) here http://paste.ubuntu.com/580267/
[20:03] <hylian> i gotta reboot, see y'all later :)
[20:03] <MileHiDave> later
[20:03] <BluesKaj> hylian,  try vlc, totem and mplayer have probs lately
[20:04] <mena> brightspark, i wrot it and i can't understand the resolute
[20:04] <MileHiDave> greetings.. I have 2 sata hd's with ubuntu and xp, ubuntu hd is first in bios boot order.. any links/tips to get a dual boot going?
[20:05] <W43372> How do i purge all the data for desktop drapes? somehow the wrong folder of pictures got added into it and now I've got a bajillion little icons getting turned into my wallpaper
[20:05] <jethrot> Pici: how do I get something listed on USC?
[20:05] <leftiness> MileHiDave: It's for Arch, but I've always found their documentation helpful: (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Windows_and_Arch_Dual_Boot)
[20:05] <th0r> mena: you don't have to understand it all.....just look for login attempts. They should show the IP from which it came, the username, and the date time
[20:06] <W43372> How do i purge all the data for desktop drapes? somehow the wrong folder of pictures got added into it and now I've got a bajillion little icons getting turned into my wallpaper
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> MileHiDave: boot to ubuntu and run: sudo apt-get -y install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[20:07] <dagon666> W43372: look for hidden directory in your homedir, something like .drapes
[20:07] <MileHiDave> ActionParsnip: thanks! doing that now
[20:07] <mena> th0r: i see more and more line which line specific i see?
[20:08] <W43372> dagon666: Werd, dude. Thanks.
[20:08] <Alex__> Who can help me with evolution?
[20:09] <MileHiDave> ActionParsnip: rebooting.. brb
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> MileHiDave: personally i'd have installed both OSs to the same drive then made an NTFS partition occupying all of the second drive for both OSs to use for user data
[20:09] <jccorrea> anyone test escputil and its work ?
[20:10] <mattbd> mena: Are yo trying to examine a log file of some kind? If so, using grep to filter out what you need should be very helpful
[20:10] <jccorrea> i'm trying to retrive ink level for a epson but for whine...doesn'r work
[20:10] <leftiness> Is someone able to explain how to implement this solution? (http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24667#c24)
[20:10] <dotlegend> how can i give access to my secondary drive over the network to everyone?
[20:10] <cptmorgan> running 8.04 and i need to replicate an installed system. I've always done this with rsync. Everything boots up correctly on a fresh drive with identical partition table and filesystems but when booting the first time it complains about /var/run and /var/lock (varrun,varlock) and cannot start networking because of this. A reboot fixes this problem. Is there a reason this happens or a way to restore these filesystems so this doesn't happen
[20:11] <mena> mattbd: can you show me steps to do this plz?
[20:11] <dotlegend> currently it gives an error not accessible when connecting over the lan
[20:11] <dotlegend> network access is denied
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> dotlegend: you can use samba or more securely, sshfs
[20:11] <mattbd> mena:OK, what log file are you wanting to look at and what do you want to get from it?
[20:11] <llutz> cptmorgan: you shouldn't backup pid-/lockfiles
[20:11] <themis> hi how can i join french ubuntu server with gnome X chat
[20:11] <hilarie> Halp... ubuntu feel's that my HPDV7 Wireless indicator light needs to flash upon network activity(in windows it is orange or green for on off of the wifi, here in ubuntu it's solid orange, with blue flashes for network activity
[20:11] <aladoinsano> Does (X)ubuntu have ntive support for 802.11n? Im running Xubuntu 10.10 and im pretty sure it connect with 802.11g since the speed is a lot slower than in Windows
[20:12] <iceroot> themis: /join #ubuntu-fr
[20:12] <iceroot> aladoinsano: yes it has
[20:12] <dotlegend> actionparsnip: i setup samba, and made it visible and writable and for everyone still says access is denied
[20:12] <genii-around> themis: Or, if you are in Quebec, /join #ubuntu-qc
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> !fr | themis
[20:12] <iceroot> aladoinsano: its depening on your wifi-driver
[20:12] <dagon666> Im having problems with my printer shared via samba. After I restart my machine people no longer can print to it via samba, when I restart samba everything goes back to normal, how to fix this ? Before restarting samba I see such messages http://pastie.org/1671577 in the samba log for the failed printing attempts
[20:12] <cptmorgan> llutz: im backing up a system thats in a livecd and not running. the system was powered off... shouldnt those file be gone?
[20:12] <mena> mathbd : i wrot this command "more /var/log/messages" to find whos connect to my com
[20:13] <llutz> cptmorgan: oops, yes they should
[20:13] <aladoinsano> iceroot: ok, is there anyway i can check if it connects with the N standard?
[20:13] <iceroot> aladoinsano: iwconfig should show you
[20:13] <cptmorgan> llutz: i boot into a livecd and mount the filesystem and back them up with rsync appropriately. I then on the new system create the partition table and filesystems and rsync the data back over and install grub.
[20:13] <mattbd> mena: First of all, I would use less rather than more, it's a better version of the same thing
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> dotlegend: run: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER  and you can authenticate as your user
[20:13] <iceroot> mena: just use "w" to see who is connected
[20:14] <mattbd> mena: However, you really want to filter out what you want first before you look at it
[20:14] <mattbd> mena: I would use something like cat /var/log/messages | grep phrasetofind | less
[20:14] <rojikku> Question..I installed compiz fusion and enabled the rain effect...And it worked fine..Nooot sure what I did but now when I try it the screen gets sorta blurry and there are no rain drops 0.o
[20:14] <cptmorgan> llutz: interesting enough i dont see varun or varlock mounted...
[20:14] <mena> mathd : then which command can i type in terminal plz?
[20:14] <aladoinsano> iceroot: yes it says "IEEE 802.11abg" thats what i suspected. ok i will try to see if i can find a driver for my card
[20:14] <cptmorgan> llutz: on the system ive backed up i do
[20:15] <W43372> dagon666: I has no .drapes in my homefolder
[20:15] <mattbd> mena: What you need to do is get the contents of the file via vat, pipe it into grep to search for what you want, then pipe the result into less
[20:16] <dagon666> W43372: find -name *drapes*. I see the configuration in .gnome2/drapes.xml
[20:16] <mattbd> mena: So, something like cat /var/log/messages | grep phrase_you_are_looking_for | less should do what you want
[20:16] <MileHiDave> ActionParsnip: woo hoo.. thanks man.. worked like a champ
[20:16] <mena> matbd : i am sad to say i can't uberstant you mean. plz explain
[20:17] <MileHiDave> ActionParsnip: now if you know of a way to use vbox to run my windows hd while booted to ubuntu, lots O booze would be showered on ya hehehe
[20:17] <W43372> dagon666: You know, I assumed it would have been stashed in that folder. I need to learn to check one more place before i bug people :P
[20:17] <mattbd> mena: You need to find a word that occurs in the file that is relevant to what you want, and use grep to search for that
[20:19] <judgen> llutz: Nope a dd did not fix the issue...
[20:19] <mena> matbd : yes i do it and this liks shows this "http://paste.ubuntu.com/580275/"
[20:19] <judgen> llutz: Maybe the disks are all about to die or something. But it seems odd, as they are new and from different manufacturers.
[20:20] <mena> matbd : i need to find who connect to my com today remotly
[20:20] <stillunknown1> hi. where ubuntu`s apt-get save downloaded packages?
[20:20] <mattbd> mena: OK, I think you're probably looking in the wrong log in the first place
[20:20] <rojikku> stillunknown1: In your home folder, I THINK...not sure. Google has it if nobody here does...
[20:20] <lotuspsychje> any1 know a good package for autofill webforms?
[20:21] <mena> matbd: ooh can you help me to solve it?
[20:21] <iceroot> mena: as i told you just press "w" on the terminal, then you see how is connected at the moment, use "last" to see how was connected
[20:21] <iceroot> who
[20:21] <BluesKaj> stillunknown1,  downloaded and installed or just downloaded?
[20:21] <stillunknown1> rojikku: fail
[20:21] <stillunknown1> BluesKaj: just
[20:21] <cosmo> I tried bookmarks in nautilus and it tries to add the whole drive, I have video, audio and documents stored in folders on other drives in categories and sub-categories in win 7 I could just add them to library folders in explorer without having to copy them to the main drive this made accessing them convenient and I was hoping to do the same in ubuntu but not sure how (would like to have links to them in the home folder where it already has cat
[20:21] <cosmo> egories like documents, music, video, etc.) any ideas or suggestions?
[20:22] <GOMI> how much processes is normal for ubuntu to have ?
[20:22] <mattbd> mena: I know where it is in Arch, but it's not there in Ubuntu. Let me have a brief look on Google...
[20:22] <ionut> anyone knows a good web scrapper ?
[20:22] <mattbd> ionut:How about the LWP module in Perl?
[20:22] <mena> mathd, i wait you thanks for your effort
[20:22] <dustin> SPECIAL THANKS TO DASKREECH/TAIGA FOR HELPING SETUP MY FIRST MUD SERVER THANK YOU ALL ALSO THANKS BRIGHTSPARK TOO
[20:22] <emilos> question: i have a 1tb external that was mounted fine and then when i tried to read from it it disappeared from the desktop, its still recognized in disk manager but i dont know how to get it to show up and again and be usable...its ntfs
[20:23] <EvilPhoenix> dustin:  all-caps arent appreciated here.
[20:23] <dustin> sorry evil
[20:23] <noahcampbell> Why is /sbin/runuser not part of ubuntu?
[20:23] <KB1JWQ> What's the polite way to tell apt-get to go with either "no config" or "local only" for postfix programmatically?
[20:24] <ionut> mattbd: any application existent ?
[20:24] <judgen> i am going to cry soon... three new disks and all faulty.
[20:25] <llutz> judgen: checked cables?
[20:25] <frxstrem> how can I restore the Applications menu back to the default?
[20:25] <judgen> llutz: yup several different ones.
[20:26] <mattbd> ionut:Not that I know of, but LWP::Simple is VERY easy - just enter something like what I've put at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/580281/
[20:26] <mena> mattbd : i see this like "USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
[20:26] <mena> "
[20:26] <judgen> llutz: but i have one more that is still in it's plastic so i will try that cable too.
[20:26] <panfist> i have been using 10.04 lts as a dev workstation for a while but i just got some new hardware and i'm not sure what version to install. 10.04 has been working for me, but 10.10 is nice, BUT i really really don't like natty narwhal so far
[20:27] <panfist> basically i was wondering if when natty narwhal finally comes if it will be possible to use a more familiar desktop enviornment
[20:27] <W43372> how do i put the trash bin back on the bottom panel if I wasn't paying attention and removed it?
[20:27] <mattbd> mena:Is that the output from the who command?
[20:27] <emilos> alright, can someone help a noob restart nautilus then?
[20:28] <tsimpson> mattbd: from 'w', not 'who'
[20:28] <mena> mattbd : i wrot "w" in termainal and the resolute is USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
[20:28] <mena> .
[20:28] <ionut> what is the problem ?
[20:28] <mena> UUSER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
[20:28] <mena> mena     tty7     :0               21:11    1:15m  3:13   0.13s gnome-session
[20:28] <mena> mena     pts/0    :0.0             22:26    0.00s  0.17s  0.00s w
[20:28] <FloodBot2> mena: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <ionut> ionut@ionut:~$ aptitude update
[20:28] <ionut> The program 'aptitude' can be found in the following packages:
[20:28] <ionut>  * aptitude
[20:28] <ionut>  * aptitude-gtk
[20:28] <FloodBot2> ionut: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <ionut> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[20:28] <W43372> how do i put the trash bin back on the bottom panel if I wasn't paying attention and removed it?
[20:29] <Hedgehog456> The Workspace Switcher isn't working anymore.
[20:29] <mattbd> mena:OK, looks like no-one but you is logged in at present
[20:30] <mena> mattbd : i ask about 4 hours age
[20:30] <mena> mattbd : not present
[20:30] <tsimpson> mena: see the output of "last"
[20:30] <mattbd> mena: Was that by SSH?
[20:31] <mena> mattbd : see "http://paste.ubuntu.com/580284/"
[20:31] <Hedgehog456> i've fixed it
[20:31] <kowal> exit
[20:31] <fenix_> server #g5021
[20:31] <joshmclvl1> W43372: my first guess would be try using gconf-editor to add it back in, but that's using a chainsaw to cut toast ^_^; open gconf-editor, then go to apps/nautilus/desktop and click on make trash icon visible.
[20:31] <stillunknown1> mena: gtfo
[20:32] <mena> stilunknown1: what're you mean plz?
[20:32] <mattbd> mena: That's from your /var/log/messages?
[20:32] <aladoinsano> How do i fin
[20:32] <mena> matbd: command plz?
[20:33] <aladoinsano> How do i find the model/make of my wireless nic in ubuntu?
[20:33] <mattbd> mena: What I mean is, is what you've pasted the contents of the file called /var/log/messages
[20:33] <W43372> joshmclvl1 how do?
[20:33] <aladoinsano> Or the name of the driver for it
[20:33] <tsimpson> mena: than no one bug you has logged in since the 5th
[20:34] <tsimpson> mattbd: it's the output of "last"
[20:34] <joshmclvl1> W43372: press alt + F2, type in gconf-editor , and then follow the previous instructions (they're 'folders' you need to expand). gconf is comparable (but nowhere near as bad as) the windows registry.
[20:34] <ohzie> Is there a linux utility that may allow me to open up an ntrestore file from windows server 2003?
[20:35] <joshmclvl1> W43372: the folders were app/nautilus/desktop , and then check the box for 'show trash can' or the like.
[20:35] <MileHiDave> brb
[20:35] <mena> tsimpson : what're you mean? isant one connect to me
[20:35] <papna__> Is there an easy way to get chmod to make group/other permissions match you? i.e., 644 - > 666, 770 -> 777
[20:35] <papna__> Oops, sorry.
[20:35] <mattbd> mena: Are you running an SSH server on your computer? Is that how someone else connected to your computer?
[20:36] <mena> mattbd : exlain to me plz
[20:36] <hylian> hey guys, i ssh'ed to a unix machine via ctrl-f3-alt and then ssh me@place.org, anywayz, that stopped functioning for some reason, how do i kill an app in a terminal setting via console like that?
[20:36] <mena> mattbd :explain
[20:36] <fenix_> server rus.net.org
[20:37] <mattbd> mena: You said that someone else logged into your computer?
[20:37] <fenix_> rusnet.org.ru
[20:37] <W43372> joshmclvl1 how long does it take to show back up
[20:37] <tsimpson> mena: unless you installed some software to allow others to access your system over the network/internet, then the only way people can login by sitting at the computer
[20:37] <genii-around> fenix_:  /server wherever
[20:37] <mena> mathbd : ya i see him iam sure
[20:37] <stillunknown1> mena: get the f.. off from here. you're typing bullshit. you need a doctor
[20:37] <joshmclvl1> W43372: If it's not there it might have moved somewhere unseeable on the desktop; try right clicking and realigning/sorting icons
[20:38] <mattbd> mena: If someone else logged in remotely, SSH or Telnet are the most likely ways for someone to do that
[20:38] <tsimpson> !guidelines | stillunknown1
[20:38] <mena> stillunknow1 :thanks for your opinion
[20:39] <mattbd> mena: But to do so, the computer would need to be running an SSH or Telnet server, and the port would need to be open so it could connect
[20:40] <mattbd> mena: You can tell if the SSH daemon is running with the command ps aux | grep sshd - it should then say if an ssh server is running
[20:40] <MileHiDave> ActionParsnip: now if you know of a way to use vbox to run my windows hd while booted to ubuntu, lots O booze would be showered on ya hehehe
[20:41] <mena> mattbd : mena      3380  0.0  0.0   7628   924 pts/0    S+   22:41   0:00 grep --color=auto sshd
[20:42] <mattbd> mena: Is that the only line?
[20:42] <mena> mattbd : yes
[20:42] <mena> mathbd : the only line
[20:42] <mattbd> mena: Then sshd isn't running
[20:42] <rupert_millard> Hi. First time ever on IRC! On my new laptop, I am getting an intermittent kernel panic within about a minute of powering up. I installed "linux-crashdump" so I can give the developers a proper bug report, but although it seems to dump a load of data on the panic, I can't find it anywhere when I boot up. So I've got two problems - what (is/am I doing) wrong with linux-crashdump, and how do I give the best bug report to the devs?
[20:43] <mattbd> mena:I would also run ps aux | grep telnetd to check if the telnet daemon is installed
[20:43] <mena> mattbd : that's mean no one connect to my com never
[20:43] <mattbd> mena:That means no-one can connect via SSH
[20:43] <ZenMasta> I need help with a cron job. I was copying this script to backup mysql and one of the lines is "ROTATE = 8" so I guess it only keeps 8 backups. When I run the script I get this error ./mysqlbackup.sh: 10: ROTATE: not found
[20:43] <mena> mena      3387  0.0  0.0   7628   928 pts/0    S+   22:43   0:00 grep --color=auto telnetd
[20:44] <emilos> can someone please tell my why my external drive will not mount :(
[20:44] <mena> mattbd : mena      3387  0.0  0.0   7628   928 pts/0    S+   22:43   0:00 grep --color=auto telnetd
[20:44] <llutz> ZenMasta: no spaces ROTATE=8
[20:44] <emilos> it mounted perfectly once then disappeared
[20:44] <mattbd> mena: OK, so telnetd isn't running either
[20:44] <EnginA> auditd is running, I'm adding rules with autditctl, and they are being listed with 'auditctl -l', but actions are not logged. any idea ?
[20:44] <tsimpson> mena: from the information you have given, no one, other than your account, has logged in to your system
[20:44] <mattbd> mena: That means that to log in someone would have to be physically at your computer
[20:45] <emilos> and nothing i try works, ubuntu says its already mounted but i cant see it ; only in disk utility
[20:45] <mattbd> mena: If neither Telnet nor SSH are running, that's the only way someone is likely to gain access
[20:45] <mena> mattbd : such as ?
[20:45] <ubuntu__> Hey, everyone! I'm trying to set up a dual-boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.10 BUT .. I can not create a new partition since it would be the 5th primary one. What can I do ?
[20:45] <llutz> mattbd: nope, there are vnc, rdp, desktop-sharing
[20:46] <trism> tsimpson,mattbd: mena's problem was with VNC (Gnome Remote Desktop specifically), but since vino doesn't log connections yet, probably out of luck (although I still think ~/.cache/notify-osd.log may have something)
[20:46] <ZenMasta> ubuntu__ install inside of windows using wubi or use virtual box
[20:46] <mena> trism : command plz?
[20:46] <mattbd> trism: Oops, forgot VNC
[20:47] <tsimpson> mena: did you install a VNC server?
[20:47] <Jeruvy> ubuntu__: make the fifth partition extended.
[20:47] <meLon> I have multiple pc's on a LAN.  They all have their own hostnames.  Is there a way to reference these machines by their hostnames?  I think I've done it before.  Is it NetBios? O_o
[20:47] <ubuntu__> Jeruvy: how ? When I click New, it throws an error and doesn't allow to continue ..
[20:47] <mena> tsimson : which VNC this?
[20:47] <trism> mena: gedit ~/.cache/notify-osd.log and look for lines that have the subject "Someone is controlling your desktop" or something like that...may not be logged but it was when I used it
[20:47] <llutz> mena: /etc/hosts or better use a dns-server
[20:47] <Jeruvy> ubuntu__: you need to remove the 4th primary partition, then create the extended..then recreate the primary
[20:48] <tsimpson> mena something to share your desktop over the network or internet
[20:48] <mattbd> mena:VNC is similar to Windows Remote Desktop, but is cross-platform
[20:48] <mena> i don't know but i have teamviewer
[20:48] <ubuntu__> Jeruvy: oh, my .. well, that's somehow clear but the thing is .. I don't have a backup drive for my main Windows partition ( I don't want to mess with Recovery and Tools ).
[20:49] <Jeruvy> ubuntu__: that may be a show stopper.
[20:49] <mena> mattbd : how can i know if my com has VNC ther or no?
[20:49] <rvn> i popped in a usb flash drive with live ubuntu 10.10 (from the installer iso) to install onto my main box, and it doesn't recognize my network card - i've got a p43-es3g by gigabyte.. typically i find ubuntu has the drivers for all common wired and wireless interfaces, but i also have a wmp54g linksys pci card and it doesn't even see that!
[20:49] <rvn> any idea?
[20:49] <rvn> (i stated motherboard because it's an onboard netcard)
[20:50] <magicianlord> Good day, sirs.
[20:50] <ubuntu__> Jeruvy: ok, thank you - I'll see what I can do.
[20:50] <ubuntu__> exit
[20:50] <Jinxed--> Does anyone know why something would run find in shell but segfaults when it is run with crontab or rc.local?
[20:50] <rvn> Jinxed--: it hates you
[20:51] <mena> mattbd : i have teamviewer here in my com but how can i know if my com has VNC or not?
[20:51] <guntbert> rvn: don't make stupid comments
[20:51] <mattbd> mena: What I just read suggests that teamviewer isn't a VNC client, but is something similar
[20:51] <Jinxed--> rvn, seems the most likely explanation at this point... i have been working on this for about 8 hours
[20:51] <guntbert> Jinxed--: might be a question of search paths or environment settings
[20:51] <rvn> Jinxed--: what kind of "something" is it anywho
[20:51] <rvn> Jinxed--:  a script, a program..?
[20:51] <mattbd> mena:Also, Wikipedia suggests that it's not very secure
[20:51] <mena> mattbd : www.teamviewer.com
[20:51] <rvn> i popped in a usb flash drive with live ubuntu 10.10 (from the installer iso) to install onto my main box, and it doesn't recognize my network card - i've got a p43-es3g by gigabyte.. typically i find ubuntu has the drivers for all common wired and wireless interfaces, but i also have a wmp54g linksys pci card and it doesn't even see that!
[20:52] <rvn> any idea?
[20:52] <rvn> (repeating question due to apparent netsplit while i asked first)
[20:52] <Jinxed--> guntbert, I thought so too especially since it would segfault when I ran it with env -
[20:52] <mena> mattbad : okay
[20:52] <birrbert> good evening. I would like to do some port forwarding on my Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Server. I'd like to forward port 6112 to 6119 to computer with LAN IP 192.168.2.50. how can I do that?
[20:52] <Jinxed--> guntbert, rvn but I manually set the $PATH and $TERM in my script now and it still segfaults
[20:53] <th0r> birrbert: iptables
[20:53] <mena> mattbd : now how can i know is ther VNC in computer or not?
[20:53] <mattbd> mena: TBH, I doubt very many people will have used that because there are so many free alternatives in the Ubuntu repositories
[20:53] <birrbert> th0r, OK, but could you please give me an example?
[20:53] <rvn> clearly nobody has the vaguest clue how to help me
[20:53] <Jeruvy> birrbert: http://portforward.com/
[20:53] <magicianlord> rvn: clearly
[20:53] <rvn> i guess i'll just wipe my windows install and hope ubuntu doesn't fuck me over
[20:53] <rvn> -_-
[20:53] <kaiowas> hello
[20:54] <Jinxed--> rvn it is a script that calls a program
[20:54] <mattbd> mena: VNC is one way to connect to someone's desktop remotely, this Teamviewer appears to be an application that does the same thing
[20:54] <birrbert> Jeruvy, that site is only for router, isn't it?
[20:54] <emilos> how do i reset the fstab file?
[20:55] <birrbert> th0r, I tried this:
[20:55] <birrbert> iptables -A FORWARD -s 0/0 -i eth0 -d 192.168.2.50 -o br0 -p TCP --sport 48154 --dport 48154 -j ACCEPT
[20:55] <Ddorda> !clone
[20:55] <ShaunR> is there a group install option for apt? simular to yum's?  I would like to install the x window system with gnone.
[20:55] <birrbert> for my torrent download. but it's not working
[20:55] <mattbd> mena: However, the Ubuntu repositories already have a number of other apps that do the same thing
[20:55] <queso> Does aptitude honor the order of the packages you specify?  e.g., sudo aptitude install package1 package2
[20:55] <Jeruvy> birrbert: as far as I know.
[20:56] <mattbd> ShaunR:There are metapackages that will pull in a load of other dependencies, is that the kind of thing you're after?
[20:56] <Zelozelos> whats the ubuntu coders room #?
[20:56] <ShaunR> Mattdb: dont know, with centos/yum i can simple do `yum groupinstall "Gnome Desktop Enviorment"`
[20:56] <birrbert> so I tried to setup port forward for torrent dl, but I also tried for port 6112-6119. could anybody please tell me what am I doing wrong?
[20:56] <mena> mattbd: is there another way to find if someone coonect desktop remotly to my computer
[20:56] <ShaunR> and it will install all the packages needed for it
[20:57] <rcmaehl> HAPPY PI DAY #ubuntu :D now is there anyway to make my computer run espeak "Happy PI Day" every march 14?
[20:57] <kaiowas> i just installed ubuntu for the first time... so im just wondering, is it the ubuntu website i check out for tips or are there any other good webpage?
[20:57] <lahwran> scp [user@host:directory/] . -r << gives me "-r: No such file or directory" - it says it understands -r, but it won't work ..
[20:57] <Jinxed--> Zelozelos, maybe you want #ubuntu-kernel
[20:57] <mattbd> ShaunR: Yes, it's just a matter of finding the appropriate metapackage. For instance, kubuntu-desktop to install the Kubuntu desktop
[20:58] <ShaunR> so i do what, apt-get install kubuntu-destop?
[20:58] <mattbd> mena: If you're using Teamviewer, that seems the mo
[20:58] <mattbd> mena: If you're using Teamviewer, that seems the most likely place to start
[20:58] <Zelozelos> Jinxed--, dts im looking for help with gwinwrap n getting it to play video again. it seems the prob is with the -wid option
[20:58] <panfist> wc
[20:58] <mena> mattbd : may be i will not use it again
[20:59] <mattbd> mena: I'm not familiar with it so I can only suggest looking closely at the application to find out if it logs connections
[20:59] <Jinxed--> Zelozelos, I'm no help to you there
[20:59] <mattbd> ShaunR: Basically, yes, just need to use sudo as well
[20:59] <mena> matbad  i have another problem with log file viewer that has error "The file is not a regular file or is not a text file."
[20:59] <adsfasdfa> how can i fill up a drive really quickly, dd is too slow
[21:00] <mattbd> mena: What command did you run to generate that error?
[21:01] <mena> mattbd : System-> administration> log file Viewer
[21:01] <mattbd> mena: And what log file was it?
[21:01] <hylian> how do i set ubuntu to boot verbose instead of graphical, i want to see those messages....?
[21:02] <mena> mattbd : what?
[21:02] <guntbert> hylian: add     noquiet nosplash        to the boot line
[21:02] <larious> anyone in the room, I have ssh that I operate with putty and I believe that I can operate the graphical environment, I need to learn more about vnc, can someone tell me if I disconnect my server will it be continue working when I am offline ( Something Like RDP)
[21:02] <lojack> Hello all.  Can anyone offer any hints for preventing swap partition from being automatically mounted at boot???  Running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[21:03] <lucubrate> --help-all
[21:03] <ZenMasta> I need help with a cron job. I was copying this script to backup mysql and one of the lines is "ROTATE = 8" When I run the script I get this error ./mysqlbackup.sh: 10: ROTATE: not found
[21:03] <mattbd> mena: What log file were you using the log file viewer to look at? They're listed on the left
[21:03] <llutz> lojack: remove it from /etc/fstab. but why would one want tthat?
[21:03] <chipnt> hi everyone. Im not root. how can i see in ssh (putty) what the domain name assigned to my ssh user using apache.
[21:03] <hylian> guntbert, i can do that! thanks!
[21:03] <llutz> ZenMasta: no spaces ROTATE=8
[21:03] <lojack> Adding noswap as boot parameter to grub doesn't work.
[21:03] <larious> anyone in the room, I have ssh that I operate with putty and I believe that I can operate the graphical environment, I need to learn more about vnc, can someone tell me if I disconnect my server will it be continue working when I am offline ( Something Like RDP)
[21:03] <chipnt> *what domain name
[21:04] <larious> anyone in the room, I have ssh that I operate with putty and I believe that I can operate the graphical environment, I need to learn more about vnc, can someone tell me if I disconnect my server will it be continue working when I am offline ( Something Like RDP)
[21:04] <ZenMasta> llutz thanks! :)
[21:04] <mena> matbd : all of them have the same error
[21:04] <mattbd> chipnt: I think hostname -f should do it - works on my Debian home server with an FQDN
[21:04] <lojack> llutz: I'm building a liveCD so fstab us being built on the fly -- so to speak.
[21:04] <larious> anyone in the room, I have ssh that I operate with putty and I believe that I can operate the graphical environment, I need to learn more about vnc, can someone tell me if I disconnect my server will it be continue working when I am offline ( Something Like RDP)
[21:04] <th0r> larious: I was going to answer, but 30 seconds isn't enough time
[21:04] <chipnt> MattB: it show me the username inolam-web wich is the root name install
[21:04] <chipnt> it doesnt
[21:05] <chipnt> :)
[21:05] <larious> th0r: just need a hint
[21:05] <Jinxed-> Why would a script work fine when run in terminal but segfault when run with rc.local or crontab?
[21:05] <mattbd> mena: That suggests to me that there's something wrong with the application, not the log files
[21:05] <larious> th0r: a hint can help me
[21:05] <hylian> exit
[21:05] <larious> anyone in the room, I have ssh that I operate with putty and I believe that I can operate the graphical environment, I need to learn more about vnc, can someone tell me if I disconnect my server will it be continue working when I am offline ( Something Like RDP)
[21:05] <Jinxed-> and more importantly how to i get a script to run with root at startup
[21:05] <joshmclvl1> larious: a hint would be 'gnu screen' ;)
[21:05] <guntbert> larious: stop repeating!
[21:05] <RubenAlonzo> Greetings everyone, does anyone know when the next version of ubuntu is out please? i really dislike the unity dock tab that is always present in 10.10
[21:05] <RubenAlonzo> the one on the left
[21:06] <larious> joshmc1vl1: So tell me can it work like RDP ?
[21:06] <shlm> hello
[21:06] <shlm> there
[21:06] <mattbd> chipnt: OK, can you view /etc/hosts at all?
[21:06] <shlm> how to identify :   => There are 2 zombie processes.
[21:06] <larious> anyone in the room, I have ssh that I operate with putty and I believe that I can operate the graphical environment, I need to learn more about vnc, can someone tell me if I disconnect my server will it be continue working when I am offline ( Something Like RDP)
[21:07] <root__> slm
[21:07] <guntbert> shlm: don't worry about zombie processes, they don't use any ressources
[21:07] <shlm> how to identify :  supposedly of ubuntu :   => There are 2 zombie processes.
[21:07] <llutz> !repeat| larious
[21:07] <andruHA1123> i anyone know how i can check this: "•	Make a list of all the services and daemons that are started up when your system has booted."
[21:07] <shlm> i have to worry about
[21:07] <joshmclvl1> larious: I haven't really used rdp =s but it's a fake-terminal program you can use to start a program and 'detach' it and then close your connection, then when you reconnect you can 'reattach' it to get back to your session
[21:07] <RubenAlonzo> brb
[21:07] <joshmclvl1> larious: 'it' being 'screen'
[21:08] <larious> you are right
[21:08] <larious> and that is ok thanks Good night
[21:08] <joshmclvl1> larious: ok! take care!
[21:09] <shlm> of course i have to worry about it , i need to correct the solution on how to remove that supposedly of ubuntu zombie processes, not want any bypass solution
[21:09] <mena> matbd : Are you here?
[21:09] <mattbd> mena:Yes
[21:09] <guntbert> shlm: they are no problem at all
[21:09] <shlm> what's that ? why it that error ? what's going wrong on my system ?
[21:09] <mena> mattbd : are you see my problem?
[21:09] <andruHA1123> how do i list all the services and daemons that are started up when the system has booted?
[21:10] <Jasonn> andruHA1123: top
[21:10] <llutz> shlm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process
[21:10] <shlm> of course it should an error, why my other sytem don't have that error ? & why  i got that error on my system ?
[21:10] <Yoinx> shlm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zombie_process
[21:10] <genii-around> andruHA1123: initctl list          also
[21:11] <andruHA1123> genii-around, ty, thats what i was looking for
[21:11] <mattbd> mena:Yes, and I would suggest that it's more likely to be a problem with the log file viewer app itself than the log files. Try viewing them using less from the command line instead
[21:11] <mena> matbd : how?
[21:13] <mattbd> mena: Just enter less followed by the full path to the log file in question, such as less /var/log/apache2/error.log to view the error log for Apache, for instance
[21:13] <mattbd> mena: So the messages file you were looking at earlier would be less /var/log/messages
[21:13] <Yushatak> i installed ubuntu 10.10 x64, and my wired and wireless network cards both don't work - the wired shows up in the network devices applet and ifconfig, the wireless just is missing, and i had to plug in a usb NIC just to get on here
[21:13] <andruHA1123> genii-around, do you know how would I figure out what kernel loads at startup?
[21:14] <magicianlord> Yushatak: what is your card?
[21:14] <Yushatak> my wired card is a RTL8111, wireless is a RaLink RT2400 (Linksys PCI WMP54G)
[21:14] <mena> mattbd :http://paste.ubuntu.com/580304/
[21:14] <njbair> is there an nvidia driver that will allow me to use compiz other than the proprietary driver?
[21:14] <genii-around> andruHA1123: Possibly in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules   and /etc/modules
[21:15] <joshmclvl1> andruHA1123: check the logs at /var/log/dmesg with your favorite text editor mehbeh?
[21:15] <Yushatak> if i do lspci they both show up
[21:15] <BlueEagle> Yushatak: And what is the first link you get when you google "rlt8111 linux" ?
[21:15] <joshmclvl1> adruHA1123: it has the most current at the top
[21:15] <genii-around> andruHA1123: When they are compiled into kernel though, not sure
[21:15] <Yushatak> BlueEagle: dunno, i was more specific in my searches for "rtl8111 ubuntu" and i got jack shit that was useful -_-
[21:15] <Yushatak> BlueEagle: i'll try that i suppose, see what shows up
[21:15] <andruHA1123> genii-around, k, thanks, i will try that
[21:16] <genii-around> andruHA1123: result of dmesg usually has all the ones it tries as well
[21:16] <BlueEagle> Yushatak: Cause first link I got was "rlt8111 ubuntu drivers download"
[21:16] <h00k> !language | Yushatak
[21:16] <Yushatak> BlueEagle: not me, i got some forum post
[21:17] <BlueEagle> Yushatak: Well the links were bogus anyways.
[21:18] <mena> mattbad : are you see my attack?
[21:18] <andruHA1123> how about this, how would I go about adding a script to start up list that would run at level 4? I'm trying to do this all in terminal (just trying to learn linux a bit)
[21:18] <tsimpson> mena: there is no attack there
[21:18] <guntbert> !runlevel | andruHA1123
[21:19] <Yushatak> i've never seen ubuntu fail to work with a wired network card before, this is so disappointing :(
[21:19] <BlueEagle> Yushatak: http://www.realtek.com.tw/DOWNLOADS/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false looks promising
[21:20] <Yushatak> BlueEagle: i shall try that, but it always feels dirty to have to gather up and install drivers on a *nix machine...
[21:20] <andruHA1123> guntbert, how do i do so that it runs on boot up? via terminal?
[21:20] <BlueEagle> Yushatak: Is it just 8111 or is there a letter after it?
[21:20] <mena> mattbd :http://paste.ubuntu.com/580304/
[21:21] <tortoise7> i am vying for the idiot of the year award.....just spent 2+ hours d/l 10.04.2 with the 10.10 try disk.... torrent finished.... only seed file can be found..... what happened to the full iso?
[21:21] <Yushatak> lspci reports 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)
[21:21] <KucukMubasir> hi, what was the command for querying my hardware specifications? it was along the line of lpac or lpca or lcpa, any ideas?
[21:21] <Yushatak> KucukMubasir: lspci
[21:21] <llutz> mena: why do you paste apache-logs, when having trouble with /var/log/btmp? why didn't you read the forums-thread i linked you earlier?
[21:21] <KucukMubasir> thanks Yushatak
[21:22] <tsimpson> mena: there is no attack there
[21:22] <BlueEagle> Yushatak: Agreed, however atleast Realtek does provide linux drivers.
[21:22] <anfegame> Hi guys, i got a problem i am trying to make my usb mic play live through my speakers, so far no luck, can anyone help me?
[21:22] <Yushatak> these drivers are open source.. why aren't they included? O.o
[21:22] <mena> mattbd no there "http://paste.ubuntu.com/580304/"
[21:22] <mena> ?
[21:22] <BlueEagle> Yushatak: Then again, since the first driver was released in 2007 I am amazed that it's not in stock kernel.
[21:23] <guntbert> andruHA1123: you can add your script to /etc/rc.local
[21:23] <Yushatak> BlueEagle: well ubuntu does seem to have drivers for the card
[21:23] <tsimpson> mena: there is *nothing* there that shows an attack
[21:23] <Yushatak> it just doesn't do anything
[21:23] <mena> okay
[21:23] <mena> hoe can i show to you?
[21:23] <mena> how?
[21:23] <Yushatak> im running updates, after that's done i'll reboot and hope that it magically works
[21:23] <Yushatak> if not then i'll try these
[21:23] <BlueEagle> Yushatak: does lsmod show anything that appears relevant?
[21:23] <Yushatak> dunno
[21:23] <Yushatak> lemme see
[21:24] <anfegame> Hi guys, i got a problem i am trying to make my usb mic play live through my speakers, so far no luck, can anyone help me?
[21:24] <mena> matbad : i read it but i can't uderstand it!!!!
[21:24] <Yushatak> my wireless card that won't show up in the network applet or ifconfig has drivers loaded -_-
[21:24]  * Yushatak keeps looking
[21:24] <guntbert> mena: thats completely normal, freenode checks your host for an open http-proxy
[21:25] <BlueEagle> Yushatak: cat /var/log/dmesg|grep eth
[21:26] <llutz> dmesg|grep eth        useless cat
[21:26] <Yushatak> BlueEagle: says the link is down
[21:26] <Yushatak> BlueEagle: it initialized the card, then it said the link is down, then it said it's not ready
[21:26] <BlueEagle> Yushatak: what does /etc/network/interfaces say?
[21:26] <Yushatak> BlueEagle: i read something about windows not shutting these cards down right
[21:26] <BlueEagle> Yushatak: Did you power the computer off or did you just do a soft reboot?
[21:26] <Yushatak> BlueEagle: it omits any reference to eth0
[21:26] <Yushatak> soft reboot
[21:27] <mena> guntberl : plz what're you mean?
[21:27] <anfegame> Hi guys, i got a problem i am trying to make my usb mic play live through my speakers, so far no luck, can anyone help me?
[21:27] <BlueEagle> Yushatak: You may want to add eth0 to the interfaces then I guess.
[21:27] <samuelvasy> Does anybody know, that is there any way to replace Vino with some better VNC-server (faster)? It's still necessary to have ability to use it with Empathy "Share desktop" feature
[21:27] <tortoise7> why does 10.10 hang at the flashing cursor on a FRESH install ?????  10.10 amd/64
[21:27] <guntbert> !tab | mena
[21:27] <BlueEagle> Yushatak: unless something else is handling the network interfaces that is.
[21:28] <guntbert> mena: I was referring to the pastebin you showed us
[21:28] <blkdg> hi, anyone able to increse the size of gsoko, the sokoban clone?
[21:28] <mena> ok
[21:28] <mena> http://paste.ubuntu.com/580309/
[21:29] <mena> oh i must leave now and continue on another time?
[21:29] <mena> ok
[21:29] <Jeruvy> samuelvasy: x11vnc is powerful but more complex to setup.  good documentation for it.
[21:30] <samuelvasy> Jeruvy: Yes, but can it be integrated with Empathy?
[21:30] <guntbert> mena: there is nothing to continue - believe me
[21:31] <mena> guntbert : okay...what i do now?
[21:31] <anfegame> Hi guys, i got a problem i am trying to make my usb mic play live through my speakers, so far no luck, can anyone help me?
[21:31] <Jeruvy> samuelvasy: couldn't say.  What would you need to integrate?
[21:31] <guntbert> mena: nothing - no need to do anything - the log is perfectly normal
[21:32] <mena> guntbert: then why this error appear ?
[21:32] <mena> it is still now
[21:32] <llutz> mena: it seems you cannot find out who connected to your machine. check the setup, stop all services not needed to make sure it won't happen again
[21:32] <llutz> mena: why do you paste apache-logs, when having trouble with /var/log/btmp? why didn't you read the forums-thread i linked you earlier?
[21:32] <tortoise7> why does a fresh install of 10.10 amd64 hang at the cursor on boot....??
[21:33] <mena> okay , can i leave no to sleep i need it now?
[21:33] <mena> okay
[21:33] <samuelvasy> Jeruvy: Basically, it's easy way to get remote support feature which can bypass firewalls.
[21:33]  * llutz smells a troll and leaves
[21:33] <guntbert> mena: this is no error, you are running a web server and the freenode proxy checker checks if you are running an open web proxy too, which is obviously not the case - so relax - no reason to worry
[21:33] <anfegame> Hi guys, i got a problem i am trying to make my usb mic play live through my speakers, so far no luck, can anyone help me?
[21:34] <samuelvasy> Jeruvy: So what I want to integrate is that "share my desktop" feature
[21:34] <mena> lluta , battbd and guntbert ....a big goodbye and nime to meet you
[21:35] <samuelvasy> Jeruvy: It works with Vino, but its very slow and there ain't possibility to use compression etc (or I havent found)
[21:37] <Jeruvy> samuelvasy:  Interesting.  I've never used Empathy.
[21:37] <tortoise7> i would really like to have all these other problems that folks get solutions to, unfortunately, i am unable to get past the hanging cursor on bootup....solution to that, Please
[21:37] <Obituary37> hi
[21:38] <PastorEd> Hello, everyone!
[21:39] <PastorEd> I am trying to get a bash script to work with the Thunar file manager. Specifically, I'm trying to send a file via FTP when I right click on it.
[21:39] <shlm> hello there
[21:40] <shlm> is it easy to change kernel ?
[21:40] <PastorEd> I know how do add "custom commands" in Thunar, but for some reason, the script will only run correctly in a terminal... I cannot get it to run from the file-manager. Any thoughts?
[21:40] <seme> hi guys... can anyone give me a hand.. for some reason ubuntu won't boot and just drops me into busybox... looks like my xfs partition has been unmounted wrong and the fs needs to be fsck'd but I can't figure out how to do it since I don't have any xfs fsck utils
[21:40] <PastorEd> seme: have you tried rebooting, and selecting the "failsafe" option?
[21:40] <seme> yeah
[21:41] <seme> same thing
[21:41] <PastorEd> seme: hmm. Do you have a LiveCD handy? You could boot using that, and then fsck the unmounted drive.
[21:41] <seme> aah
[21:41] <seme> good idea
[21:41] <seme> thanks let me try that
[21:42] <PastorEd> seme: no problem. Just make sure that the partition you want to fsck is not mounted, and you should be able to check it, no problem, using the LiveCD.
[21:42] <tortoise7> what is the trick to getting the recovery option to work?  10.10  amd64
[21:43] <PastorEd> tortoise7: hmm... what do you mean 'recovery option'?
[21:43] <blkdg> is there a sokoban game in the app store that isn't formatted for tiny screens?
[21:44] <DJones> tortoise7: During boot up, you can press the left shift key to get to the grub menu and from that, there is the recovery/root access option
[21:44] <PastorEd> blkdg: do you mean for Ubuntu? Try xsok, available in Synaptic.
[21:44] <tortoise7> Pastored, at grub i am offered 2 choices.... the kernel and recovery.... either of them hang at a blinking cursor.... no further booting into a fresh install
[21:45] <tortoise7> PastorEd, the grub comes up automatically for me..
[21:45] <blkdg> thanks PastorEd . the one that shows up in the app store is tiny.
[21:45] <blkdg> thanks again
[21:46] <PastorEd> tortoise7: hmm, I don't think I can help, other than to suggest booting with a LiveCD, and seeing if you can check your grub2 install that way...
[21:46] <PastorEd> I know how do add "custom commands" in Thunar, but for some reason, the script will only run correctly in a terminal... I cannot get it to run from the file-manager. Any thoughts?
[21:46] <PastorEd> whoops... let me try again:
[21:46] <tortoise7> well, that is the thing..... the live cd will not boot either....it hangs as well.... i have been unabe\ ,/n9\
[21:47] <PastorEd> I'm trying to run a bash script from a file-manager, but it only wants to run from a terminal. Any thoughts?
[21:47] <rohdef> how do I change the .local part of my host/domain name (in the console)
[21:48] <PastorEd> rohdef: you mean like user@laptop?
[21:49] <rohdef> PastorEd, if you run hostname -A you'll see the full name, which would usually be laptop.local in your example
[21:49] <PastorEd> gotta go...
[21:49] <rohdef> lol
[21:51] <valros> How would I simulate a keytype with a terminal command?
[21:52] <ohzie> Anyone know of a linux tool that can be used to extract the contents of a windows bkf file?
[21:53] <trism> valros: install xdotool and use: xdotool key key_combination; like xdotool key F2; xdotool key ctrl+j
[21:53] <valros> k
[21:56] <Fabio> Hi
[21:56] <Fabio> is there any one up ?
[21:57] <NixGeek> This is not a strictly ubuntu question, but I want to know if I could hook 2-4 old computers together into a cluster and run a minecraft server off of them?
[21:58] <star314> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/poppler/+bug/694293 ... anyone knows something about that bug?
[22:00] <skullboy> someone explain this line mode "1024x768-76"
[22:01] <skullboy> someone explain this line mode "1024x768-76"
[22:01] <Alex__> sounds like a resolution skullboy
[22:01] <guf_> Hi all, is this the right place to ask assistance for problems with flash?
[22:01]  * khubert waves
[22:02] <skullboy> Alex : i know but whats the part after the hyphen
[22:02] <xangua> guf_: yes, flash sucks in linux...what else can we do¿
[22:03] <Guest33361> Hi everyone
[22:03] <mwcarroll> how would I check if an argument in a bash script is a valid username?
[22:04] <guf_> Hi Xangua. Well, i'm having problems with flash, but i'm very new to ubuntu and not very much into computers at all.
[22:04] <Alex__> guf_, did you installed 'ubuntu restricted extra's'?
[22:05] <Uto> nope
[22:05] <EgX> Is anyone here is able to help me boot a hard drive that won't boot? I can boot on the live CD just fine
[22:05] <guf_> Alex, i don't know ... how do i fiind out?
[22:05] <EgX> I'm desperate :(
[22:05] <Guest33361> mcxaka can i assist u
[22:05] <Alex__> guf_, start the softwarecenter
[22:05] <CuddleOtter> sup otis
[22:05] <gido> is it possible to change the installation directory of ubuntu?
[22:05] <otis> ? DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[22:06] <guf_> alex ... just a second
[22:06] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[22:06] <guf_> ales, centre is open
[22:06] <ledbettj> mwcarroll: 'cat /etc/passwd | cut -d: -f1' will give you a list of usernames
[22:07] <guf_> alex, centre is open, i mean
[22:07] <mwcarroll> ledbettj: thanks
[22:07] <Kevin1a> I just downloaded the latest Natty Narwhal to test it out before it's released.  I used the alternative torrent download, and I want to keep seeding it even after I upgrade.  I'm upgrading with the CD rather than just using the terminal for a few reasons.  What folder did transmission put the torrent for natty in?  I just hit "open with" in Firefox download prompt
[22:07] <The_Wanderer_> hi guys, i have a iso image that is of the "file" type "data". can someone point me how to extract it?
[22:08] <skullboy> Alex : i know but whats the part after the hyphen
[22:08] <trism> Kevin1a: in Transmission, Edit/Preferences and look at Save to Location:
[22:08] <mr_orange_> anyone here use Xilinx on an Ubuntu and no how to install it?
[22:08] <dimt> а русские есть?
[22:08] <goltoof> !ru | dmit
[22:08] <larious> The_Wanderer_: do you need to burn it to cd?
[22:09] <tonu> dimt: russkie vezde est
[22:09] <dimt> какого черта у меня не работает центр приложений ,не хочет проги савить и все
[22:09] <dimt> хаха)
[22:09] <FloodBot3> dimt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:09] <FloodBot2> dimt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:10] <The_Wanderer_> larious, no i need to mount it so can can play the game on wine, but mount doesnt work since the iso file type is data and mount command doesnt recognise file type
[22:10] <trism> Kevin1a: oh, do you mean the actual .torrent file? I'm not sure, misunderstood
[22:10] <guf_> alex, software centre is open, but i cant find ubuntu restricted extras
[22:11] <Kevin1a> yes, the actual .torrent file
[22:11] <trism> Kevin1a: looks like those are saved to ~/.config/transmission/torrents/
[22:11] <mr_orange_> anyone here use Xilinx on Ubuntu and know how to install it? I have downloaded it and untar the file but after that i don't know what to do next.
[22:12] <The_Wanderer_> larious, i tried the dd command, but it doesnt take a directory as a parameter for "of=" and when i give a file (of=ld.iso) it just copies the whole d**n file without extracting it
[22:12] <Kevin1a> OK, thanks.  When I've upgraded now I can just put the iso for natty back in my downloads folder and keep seeding it.
[22:12] <skullboy> Alex : i know but whats the part after the hyphen
[22:13] <guf_> hi, can anyone here help me out with flash problems? I'm very much a beginner, i'm afraid to admit.
[22:13] <The_Wanderer_> guf_, whats the problem
[22:14] <mjs> hi all...having problems joining a windows domain and active directory...
[22:14] <guf_> well, flash content does not show. I don't know if youtube is flash also, because those movies i can see.
[22:15] <guf_> wanderer: well, flash content does not show. I don't know if youtube is flash also, because those movies i can see
[22:15] <mjs> got a pretty straightforward guide that does not use centrify express or likewise-open, from noremose1, but when i modify my /etc/resolv.conf file, and then reconnect, network manager has overwritten the file...
[22:15] <Yoinx> youtube is flash, last I knew... Maybe the player for the site isn't working for you guf
[22:16] <kbrosnan> Kevin1a: /tmp for the .torrent file
[22:16] <linxeh> youtube can do HTML5 too
[22:16] <guf_> Yoinx: well, strange thing is that all youtube works, but most other flash content does not. any ideas about that?
[22:16] <The_Wanderer_> hi guys, i have a iso image that is of the "file" type "data". can someone point me how to extract it?
[22:17] <Yoinx> no idea guf_ try flashid in firefox, and see if that helps any
[22:17] <The_Wanderer_> guf_, what other sites dont seem to work?
[22:17] <guf_> fYoinx: flashid is software? i'll search it....
[22:17] <mr_orange_> anyone here use Xilinx on Ubuntu and know how to install it? I have downloaded it and untarred the file and after that i try to run xsetup but it tells me that the command is not found.
[22:17] <skullboy> Alex : i know but whats the part after the hyphen
[22:18] <Yoinx> it's an addon for firefox. I could've sworn firefox came with it when I installed 10.10
[22:18] <skullboy> Alex : i know but whats the part after the hyphen
[22:18] <Guest33361> aaaaaaa
[22:18] <Kevin1a> kbrosnan, trism already found it ~/.config/transmission/torrents  Thanks for the help guys, my problem is solved.  Now I can play with natty but I won't feel bad because I didn't seed to 1.0 :D
[22:18] <skullboy> someone explain this line mode "1024x768-76"
[22:18] <Guest33361> thanx
[22:19] <Yoinx> skull, it's a bit random out of context... but I would assume the 76 is refresh rate
[22:20] <guf_> wanderer: well, it's all moviestuff. but most important it is an aplication from my company. it is very new and not online yet, but it works for all other browser/OS combinations.
[22:21] <The_Wanderer_> hi guys, i have a iso image that is of the "file" type "data". can someone point me how to extract it?
[22:21] <goltoof> !suphp
[22:21] <goltoof> dang
[22:21] <Fixo> Oo
[22:21] <milamber> !iso | The_Wanderer_
[22:23] <mr_orange_> hi guys, I am trying to install Xilinx on my Ubuntu 10.10 laptop and after I download the file and untar it I try to run the xsetup file but it tells me 'command not found' am I doing something wrong or is there a command i need to run before running xsetup?
[22:24] <xangua> mr_orange_: read the readme file¿¿ :S
[22:25] <Yoinx> try ./xsetup /
[22:25] <The_Wanderer_> milamber, i know how to moutn iso images, when i try to mount the iso i have i get the following error "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1,"
[22:25] <Yoinx> and make sure it's executable
[22:25] <mr_orange_> xangua, i cant find a readme
[22:25] <makulkar_> how to GDB to a process started by the process I'm debugging?
[22:25] <milamber> The_Wanderer_: what iso is it?
[22:25] <Yoinx> wanderer, is it a .bin/.cue image?
[22:26] <cesurasean> Is there an application in apt-get that I can install on 10.10 which enables me to edit grub2's config?
[22:26] <Yoinx> depends what you want to edit.
[22:26] <tonu> cesurasean: text editor does ?
[22:26] <The_Wanderer_> milamber, diablo 2 expansion pack. i was able to install the rest of the game from other iso, but i am having trouble mounting the expansion as mount doesnt recognize the isofs type
[22:27] <Yoinx> System > Administration > StartUp-Manager lets you change basic options
[22:27] <The_Wanderer_> Yoinx, no its a .iso file, "file lod.iso" gives output as "data"
[22:28] <zvacet> cesurasean : alt+f2 and type gksudo nautilus
[22:29] <Yoinx> maybe it's damaged?
[22:29] <The_Wanderer_> larious, i tried the dd command, but it doesnt take a directory as a parameter for "of=" and when i give a file (of=ld.iso) it just copies the whole d**n file without extracting it
[22:29] <cesurasean> is there another way to edit grub2?
[22:29] <cesurasean> can i install grubed from apt-get?
[22:30] <Yoinx> ces, just run synaptic, and look around for things with "grub" as the search.
[22:30] <iflema> cesurasean: to remove safe mode andmemtest entries use   /etc/default/grub   to change order use user the files in   /etc/grub.d/    like 40_custom  (after ubuntu entries) and even create a similar fuile to 40_custom but numbered lower e.g. 06_custom (before ubuntu entires) and possibly knock out os_prober
[22:30] <zvacet> cesurasean : I think it is not recommended to edit that file what are you trying to do
[22:31] <cosmo> I tried bookmarks in nautilus and it tries to add the whole drive, I have video, audio and documents stored in folders on other drives in categories and sub-categories in win 7 I could just add them to library folders in explorer without having to copy them to the main drive this made accessing them convenient and I was hoping to do the same in ubuntu but not sure how (would like to have links to them in the home folder where it already has cat
[22:31] <cosmo> egories like documents, music, video, etc.) any ideas or suggestions?
[22:31] <trism> makulkar_: if you have the pid you can attach to the process with: gdb --pid pid;
[22:31] <iflema> cesurasean: or unisntall grub2 and install grub and pin the version
[22:31] <makulkar_> trism, I do not.. because it will be laucnhed by the process i'm debugging
[22:32] <makulkar_> trism, as soon as the second process launches, it crashes :( so need to check where
[22:33] <grom> heya
[22:33] <grom> is there a special channel for newb questions?
[22:33] <Yoinx> Yeah grom, it's #ubuntu :p
[22:34] <grom> :)
[22:34] <trism> makulkar_: I don't know, might try ##c or #gdb
[22:34] <grom> i dont know how to run chrome from terminal...
[22:34] <makulkar_> trism, Ok no problem. thanks
[22:34] <xangua> type chrome¿
[22:34] <grom> chrome and what is that char?
[22:35] <grom> ¿
[22:35] <overclucker> grom: chrome<tab><tab>
[22:35] <deetz_> oh
[22:35] <grom> i dont get anything if double press tab
[22:36] <Yoinx> me either grom, dont feel bad
[22:36] <Sokini_> Hey! Am i connceted?
[22:36] <grom> looks like it sokini :)
[22:36] <Sokini_> *connected
[22:36] <overclucker> grom: hmm, tab twice usually tells you commands that start with chrome
[22:37] <trism> grom: if you installed it from the repos: chromium-browser; otherwise it think it is called: google-chrome;
[22:37] <Sokini_> Greit! So my driver works!
[22:37] <grom> yeah, thats what i thought, but obviously command for running it is something else then name of the app
[22:37] <seme> when I try to mount my xfs partition it says mount: Structure needs cleaning... fsck doesn't work on xfs partitions apparently
[22:37] <Yoinx> its google-chrome
[22:37] <Yoinx> not just chrome
[22:37] <seme> any idea how to clean the structure :)
[22:37] <grom> it is.. thanx :)
[22:37] <Yoinx> you can find it in /usr/bin
[22:37] <Sokini_> I'm on an Archos 101 IT
[22:38] <grom> another thing i wanted to ask is, if i want to run an app and stil lwant to continue using terminal in the background i need to use application&
[22:38] <hiexpo> hmm
[22:38] <grom> if i forgot the &, how can i free the terminal from it?
[22:38] <overclucker> grom: ctrl-z, then type bg
[22:38] <Sokini_> And i just managed to make wifi work from ubuntu 10.10 netbook edition
[22:39] <grom> i see, thanks
[22:39] <grom> what could be the use of still having terminal occupied with it?
[22:40] <Yoinx> debugging
[22:40] <Stryker> where is the trash located
[22:40] <Sokini_> I'm using Andchat,which is an android irc client,built from sources... because ubuntu UI is not really adapted to a 10" tablet..
[22:40] <overclucker> grom: access to stdout, stderr, and stdin
[22:41] <grom> didnt think of that :)
[22:41] <grom> see, i just left the windows ship
[22:41] <robin273>  i need help with installing stuff, i get this when i try to sudo apt-get install anything: http://mibpaste.com/Nm2bW1
[22:41] <Stryker> where is the trash located
[22:42] <Sokini_> Night!
[22:42] <Yoinx> Keep in mind, windows is built on/for a graphical UI. Linux has one, but could be used pretty much the same without it. (this is why the program hook terminal.)
[22:42] <Occultus> Hey guys, i have a problem setting up a TUN interface for OpenVPN. Running OpenVPN gives me this error: "Note: Cannot open TUN/TAP dev /dev/net/tun: Permission denied (errno=13)", which i tracked down to: "WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.18-164.15.1.el5.028stab068.9: No such file or directory" (if i run /sbin/modproble tun). Does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:42] <zvacet> robin273: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:42] <geoffmcc> I just installed firefox 4 from ppa and it installed minefield, what gives?
[22:42] <Stryker> where is the trash located. cmon people, i know you know it
[22:42] <harisund> Anybody knows how to disable the touch pad on my laptop? I am using the external mouse and would like to use only that!
[22:42] <root> hi
[22:42] <Yoinx> stryker shouldnt you be able to just cd /trash?
[22:43] <Yoinx> ahh. nv,
[22:43] <grom> Yoinx: its easy to see hows that, but i never relly knew anything else but gui... except for few simple commands in win cmd
[22:43] <hiexpo> ok i fixed the hash mismatch problem
[22:43] <Guest90546> hi
[22:43] <Stryker> geoffmcc, that is the name of the development firefoxes
[22:43] <robin273> zvacet: same error
[22:43] <Stryker> geoffmcc, it is called minefield cuz there are a bunch of bugs in it
[22:43] <kbrosnan> geoffmcc: only the release build in shipping versions of ubunut get the full Firefox branding
[22:44] <Yoinx> stryker /home/user/.local/share/trash
[22:44] <geoffmcc> stryker: its supposed to be rc1
[22:44] <Stryker> Yoinx, thx
[22:44] <Yoinx> np
[22:44] <geoffmcc> stryker: maybe i should install from bz2 instead
[22:44] <zvacet> robin273: sorry that is all I can think of
[22:44] <Stryker> geoffmcc, it is supposed to be minefield, get used to it
[22:44] <kbrosnan> geoffmcc: if you want the full branding
[22:46] <Benkinooby> hi, vlc sometimes renders my system unusable. it starts to put heavy load on the hdd. where can i find logs or messages? dmesg doesn't show anything...
[22:47] <robin273> alright, i'll ask again
[22:47] <robin273>  i need help with installing stuff, i get this when i try to sudo apt-get install anything: http://mibpaste.com/Nm2bW1
[22:47] <Yoinx> ben, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1331884
[22:47] <Yoinx> robin, sudo apt-get autoclean and try again
[22:48] <robin273> Yoinx, I still get the error
[22:49] <Yoinx> was worth a try... is that the package your actually trying to install?
[22:49] <robin273> no
[22:49] <Benkinooby> Yoinx, ok, so i must enable logging first. thank you!
[22:50] <robin273> any package i install i get that error at the installation part
[22:50] <Yoinx> there's a way to fix that, it's just not coming to me atm
[22:50] <Edlyness> Hello, everyone. I need some help getting my file manager to correctly run a bash script. Any takers?
[22:51] <Yoinx> robin, try launching synaptic... it should prompt you about broken packages (I think) see if it can fix that
[22:51] <Yoinx> edly, set it to exectuable?
[22:51] <robin273> Yoinx, also, if it matters, i'm on an Asus K52 series laptop, which took a bit of meddling to get some things to work
[22:51] <Yoinx> nah robin, doesnt really matter... the error your're getting is a build fail for a sound driver.
[22:52] <Edlyness> Yoinx: it's already set as executable. In fact, the script works perfectly in a terminal... but it won't run when selected from a file manager.
[22:52] <Yoinx> which just means that apt-get keeps trying to build it because it failed in the past
[22:52] <Yoinx> weird edly
[22:52] <monkeyD> hey guys, I want to change the longin name and my home foldername and the command is:
[22:52] <monkeyD> sudo usermod -l <new_username> -d </home/new_username> -m <old_username>
[22:52] <monkeyD> my question is where does linux know which userlogin I want to change because -m is optional
[22:53] <Edlyness> Hmm... is there a more advanced Ubuntu help channel?
[22:54] <Yoinx> edly, for something like that?  Probably #bash ? (just off the top of my head)
[22:54] <monkeyD> hey guys, anyone who can help ?
[22:55] <Edlyness> Question (reposted): I have a bash script which works in a terminal, but does NOT work when accessed from Thunar file manager. Can anyone help with this?
[22:55] <Yoinx> I'm surprised it wouldnt prompt you that it's executable... with options (nautilus does)
[22:55] <robin273> Yoinx, synaptic did not prompt me about anything. Also, it was a while ago, so I don't remember some details, but i vaguely remember meddling with alsa something to get some things related to sound to work.
[22:55] <zvacet> monkeyD : I can only guess but maybe from <old_username>
[22:55] <Edlyness> yoinx: ah... a very good idea! I will check to see if that channel can help.
[22:55] <[deXter]> Hi all, I've set up the sudoers file according to the examples with NOPASSWD but still when I try to run the program it prompts for a password. Can someone help? thanks.
[22:55] <Yoinx> yeah robnin, im not sure.
[22:56] <Yoinx> edly, they wont be able to help im sure.
[22:56] <Yoinx> http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentation/faq
[22:56] <Yoinx> thunar doesnt run scripts.
[22:56] <Edlyness> Yoinx: it's definitely executable. It's a bash script that needs a variable supplied from the file manager... when I type it in manually in a terminal, it works great. But I can't seem to pass the variable from the file manager to the script.
[22:57] <Ampelbein> monkeyD: the LOGIN is a required argument, see 'man usermod'.
[22:57] <monkeyD> zvacet: did is the same that I thought but -m is optional
[22:58] <Yoinx> unless im reading that FAQ wrong edly
[22:58] <LittleRed> hey guys.. know where I can find mdia bar drivers for a sony laptop... been lookig for 3 days
[22:58] <Ampelbein> monkeyD: yes, '-m' is optional. but you have to supply a LOGIN. '-m' just tells usermod to move homedirs.
[22:59] <Edlyness> LittleRed: which version of Linux are you running? I might be able to help with that...
[22:59] <JJMalina> can anyone help troubleshoot a file permissions issue?
[22:59] <awesomenickname_> hi
[23:00] <Edlyness> Yoinx: I think you've found it... !
[23:00] <LittleRed> Edlyness: Ubuntu 10.10
[23:00] <JJMalina> anytime a user uploads via sftp, the permission is read only for group members, cant figure out how to change this to be rw
[23:01] <zvacet> [deXter] : read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132821&highlight=sudoers+file ans see if it helps
[23:01] <[deXter]> zvacet: Thanks, checking it out now.
[23:02] <Ampelbein> JJMalina: check that the umask is set correctly
[23:02] <Edlyness> LittleRed: Okay, you are trying to get your multimedia keys to work, right?
[23:03] <[deXter]> zvacet: Thanks but it didn't help a bit.
[23:03] <FloridaGuy> how do i boot ubuntu 10.10 to init 3 .....cant find inittab
[23:03] <JJMalina> which file should I be checking in?
[23:03] <LittleRed> Edlyness: it's an actual media bar like a touch pad... I tried the key set up already...
[23:03] <Vegas_HP> hey guys I have 2 harderives in the computer i installed xubuntu 10.10 on how do i format the other drive in order to use it
[23:04] <Edlyness> LittleRed: have you tried xev, to detect if it's being seen correctly?
[23:04] <Ampelbein> [deXter]: can you pastebin the sudoers file?
[23:04] <JJMalina> Ampelbein: where is umask supposed to be set?
[23:04] <[deXter]> Ampelbein: It's just a single like that I added, OK if I paste it in here?
[23:04] <[deXter]> *line
[23:04] <Ampelbein> JJMalina: usually where your sftp-server is started
[23:04] <Ampelbein> [deXter]: would be better to see context around the line
[23:05] <LittleRed> no, haven't tried that yet... can you please give me the command so I can try it
[23:05] <DystaN> how can I take the initial sound of ubuntu login ?
[23:05] <Edlyness> LittleRed: xev
[23:05] <FloridaGuy> how do i boot ubuntu 10.10 to init 3 .....cant find inittab ???
[23:06] <[deXter]> Ampelbein: http://pastie.org/1672260
[23:06] <Edlyness> LittleRed: specifically, you'll want to run 'xev' from a terminal, so you can see if your media bar is sending any commands.
[23:06] <Ampelbein> FloridaGuy: ubuntu doesn't use runlevel 3.
[23:06] <FloridaGuy> Ampelbein, how do i boot into cli
[23:06] <LittleRed> Edlyness: pages of info
[23:07] <Ampelbein> [deXter]: my guess would be that your permissions get overridden, it's 'last hit counts', so the '%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL' overwrites your NOPASSWD bit.
[23:07] <Edlyness> LittleRed: yep, it generates a LOT of data...!
[23:08] <Ampelbein> FloridaGuy: hold shift at system start, choose recovery.
[23:08] <[deXter]> Ampelbein: Ah, will try it out just a sec.
[23:08] <FloridaGuy> ok
[23:08] <needlez> hi how can i create a file that can be modified by a script that is ran by my user but so that only root can modify it?? but all other can see it ?? i know its chmod but not sure what parameter
[23:08] <chibihogoshino> whats the option to foreword a x app with ssh ?
[23:08] <Edlyness> LittleRed: you're going to look for the "keycode" info... that tells you which button has been pressed.
[23:09] <ekoore> hi to all
[23:09] <ekoore> is possible disable the gpe11 in the kernel?
[23:09] <[deXter]> Ampelbein: No go, it's still prompting for password.
[23:09] <mrbrdo> hello.. i seem to have had a disk failure... now when i reboot, grub enters "minimal" mode.. what does this mean about the disk? grub is still on the disk, right? so it's not totally broken?
[23:09] <ekoore> is possible disable the gpe11 in the kernel?
[23:09] <Edlyness> LittleRed: did you see this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[23:09] <LittleRed> Edlyness: only thing similar is a keymap notify entry
[23:10] <Edlyness> LittleRed: it has info on how to assign multimedia functions to various keys. Give that a try.
[23:10] <Ampelbein> [deXter]: did you put the NOPASSWD stuff at the end of the file?
[23:10] <awesomenickname_> anyone using Apple wireless keyboard here? I've run into problems after update
[23:10] <LittleRed> Edlyness: so I use that 'code' in the keyboard mapping utility?
[23:10] <grom> ll
[23:10] <[deXter]> Ampelbein: Oh, hold on.
[23:10] <grom> oops, wrong window :)
[23:11] <awesomenickname_> I used to bind it via `hidd --connect`, but for some strange reason now it doesnt work in gnome
[23:11] <Gooch> Ok so I have a sleight problem.  Last night while doing some work I plugged in my hp dv4 in to my tv via hdmi.  I wanted to listen to some music so I pulled up my sound preferences and switched it to my hdmi device.  Now that I'm not plugged in I cant get sound back.  Ive tried all the available devices too. and I have googled but its very wordy to search.
[23:11] <awesomenickname_> I can use it in virtual terminal, but when I log into gnome with the same user - it just dies
[23:11] <[deXter]> Ampelbein: Sweet it works.. the behaviour is a bit weird, I thought it'd work like ACLs.. anyways, thanks for your help!
[23:12] <Edlyness> LittleRed: I think so. Give it a try.
[23:12] <Ampelbein> [deXter]: the man page mentions that in the first paragraph ;-)
[23:13] <zvacet> FloridaGuy: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?&p=1483050&postcount=3
[23:14] <njbair> how can I tell what video driver is currently in use?
[23:14] <Belial`> njbair, let me guess...you're using switchable graphics?
[23:15] <LittleRed> Edlyness: I'm lost again...
[23:15] <njbair> no I just uninstalled the proprietary nvidia driver and I don't know what ubuntu chose instead
[23:15] <zvacet> njbair: lspci |grep VGA
[23:15] <LittleRed> Edlyness: I can't find where to put it...
[23:15] <Stryker> !njbair: lspci |grep VGA
[23:15] <njbair> zvacet: that's the device, I want the driver
[23:16] <ohzie> Hey everyone. What's the best way to set group permissions on a directory if you want one group to have write, one group not to have write, and 'everyone else' be unable to read at all? chmod 750 does it for user/group/everyone else, but I'm trying to permission for two groups. Not sure how to accomplish this. =P
[23:16] <zvacet> njbair : sorry
[23:16] <Belial`> mine shows the intel gpu and the nvidia gpu. unfortunately i can't get the nvidia gpu to run because x.org and nvidia won't support optimus on linux.
[23:17] <awesomenickname_> damn, ubuntu sucks such a huge user-friendly cock!
[23:17] <Gooch> On top of my sound problem. I was wondering since many of you seem to have a strong knowledge of linux I was wondering if you had any recommended sites/books/etc. of course theres always google. but any personal favorites?
[23:17] <Ampelbein> !ops | awesomenickname_
[23:17] <ohzie> awesomenickname_: so don't use it
[23:17] <IdleOne> !language | awesomenickname_
[23:17] <Belial`> !makeloveto | awesomenickname_
[23:18] <awesomenickname_> I've been using it for several years
[23:18] <ohzie> awesomenickname_: there are so many alternatives you can use that don't involve trying to troll the ubuntu channel. =(
[23:18] <chamunks> Does anyone have experience with Crossfire on amd sapphire HD6850's
[23:18] <awesomenickname_> and every time, every release something somewhere goes wrong in such a bad way. Something that worked before.
[23:18] <chamunks> I'm currently having issues with getting my second monitor setup and running.
[23:19] <awesomenickname_> guess I should really roll somewhere else :-(
[23:19] <zvacet> Gooch : you can start with http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html
[23:19] <ohzie> awesomenickname_: I'm still using 9.04 on most of my machine. You don't upgrade to the new windows on release day, why would you upgrade to the new anything else? :P
[23:19] <cchildress> hi everyone :)
[23:19] <ohzie> awesomenickname_: don't upgrade until you chill in the channel and see what problems people are having first, imo
[23:20] <Belial`> 9.04 isn't even being supported anymore, is it?
[23:20] <ohzie> Belial`: No, but it doesn't break either
[23:20] <ohzie> Belial`: Why would I need support
[23:20] <zvacet> Belial` : not it is not
[23:20] <Gooch> sweet action! thanks!
[23:20] <cchildress> i have a friend's laptop (which of course needs fixing). it has a broadcom 4306 wireless card which works fine...if i can get the drivers working.  he tried to install the legacy b43 firmware pack, and now i can't get it to go away
[23:20] <cchildress> to install the standard b43-fwcutter
[23:21] <cchildress> i have purged all the packages, but every time i go to "additional drivers" it shows the legacy broadcom drivers
[23:21] <cchildress> any idea how to get that to completely go away? i'm sure it's just a config somewhere?
[23:21] <zvacet> ohzie : for security packages for example
[23:21] <mrbrdo> hello.. i seem to have had a disk failure... now when i reboot, grub enters "minimal" mode.. what does this mean about the disk? grub is still on the disk, right? so it's not totally broken?
[23:21] <chamunks> I'm basically having trouble with my xorg.conf I cant seem to manage to figure out how to figure out information about how ubuntu sees my video cards to put any data into xorg.conf..
[23:21] <cchildress> mrbrdo: there are hdd testing tools...i'd suggest trying one. also, what happens when you try to boot from a livecd?
[23:21] <cg2916> after i updated to 11.04 alpha 3, when i choose the latest linux and it says error: file not found, then boots into maveric
[23:21] <ohzie> zvacet: the only open thing is ssh, I use the apachefiends lammp release for everything else. App armor works fine.
[23:22] <cchildress> mrbrdo: can you read your hdd from a livecd?
[23:22] <mrbrdo> cchildress will try, thanks
[23:22] <Gooch> Under sound preferences, hardware tab I have switched it to all of them minus the hdmi obviously thats not what I need.  I'm trying to get my Laptop speakers running again.
[23:22] <An0ne> Im using UFW easy-to-use not complicated
[23:22] <ohzie> zvacet: I'm not saying I'm scared to upgrade, I'm just saying that I don't upgrade systems until I have a great reason to.
[23:22] <Gooch> I'm sure Its something simple and im being mentally retarded.
[23:23] <Ampelbein> cchildress: check with 'dkms status' and remove them if necessary
[23:23] <cchildress> Gooch: unfortunately, pebkac is all too common
[23:23] <ohzie> zvacet: and I think I'm an extreme example. I was only stating for the benefit of the guy who was talking about how new releases always break things.
[23:23] <Gooch> pebkac?
[23:23] <cg2916> did anybody get me?
[23:23] <cchildress> Ampelbein: i see nothing when i issue that command, even as su
[23:23] <ohzie> Gooch: Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair
[23:23] <cchildress> ohzie: lol thanks
[23:23] <zvacet> ohzie:  I believe you know what are you doing but security updates are not without reason
[23:24] <Belial`> has anyone in here actually got a core processor and a geforce gt 420m to work with the nvidia driver yet?
[23:24] <ohzie> zvacet: No, they're very very important for most people
[23:24] <ohzie> zvacet: and I would never use a prouction server without security updates
[23:24] <An0ne> whats the difference between the Cusom User in Ubuntu and the Administrator in terms of privileges?
[23:24] <ohzie> production*
[23:24] <An0ne> whats the difference between the Custom User in Ubuntu and the Administrator in terms of privileges?
[23:24] <Gooch> ha ha ha, yeah probably so.  But I'm intrigued by linux and want to learn everything I can.
[23:24] <yuzodo> hi there, i had some random disconnecting issues a while back but fixed it partially, however it's come back and networkmanager as well as connman failed to resolve it so im using wicd now, but that only works for ethernet, and i really need wifi
[23:24] <zvacet> ohzie:  and I agree you don´t have to upgrade on release day it is good to wait for some time
[23:24] <cg2916> after i updated to 11.04 alpha 3, when i choose the latest linux and it says error: file not found, then boots into maveric
[23:25] <ohzie> An0ne: One can do almost anything and one can do less
[23:25] <cchildress> Ampelbein: any other ideas about how to find what's staying behind?
[23:25] <chamunks> Anyone, I know its a pain helping with xorg.conf issues.
[23:25] <Ampelbein> cchildress: hmm, 'jockey-text -l'?
[23:25] <An0ne> ohzie: but they both have toor access?
[23:25] <An0ne> ohzie: but they both have root access?
[23:26] <cchildress> Ampelbein: lol what does that do?
[23:26] <ohzie> An0ne: well the adminisrator is root
[23:26] <ohzie> An0ne: so it would have root access
[23:26] <cchildress> ahhhhh
[23:26] <zvacet> An0ne : just admin
[23:26] <Ampelbein> cchildress: it lists available drivers for your system
[23:26] <ohzie> An0ne: the normal user has to gksu or sudo to root access
[23:26] <cchildress> Ampelbein: see the b43legacy firmware
[23:26] <cg2916> can anyone help me?
[23:26] <An0ne> Well yes but the custom user can also use root, so whats the difference?
[23:26] <cchildress> Ampelbein: it shows up as proprietary, disabled, not in use
[23:27] <An0ne> SO you should never set yourself as administrator? for security purposes?
[23:27] <ohzie> An0ne: if you're using a normal user and you get hit by a browser exploit(example) then that exploit can run code at your level
[23:27] <ohzie> An0ne: but not at the root level
[23:27] <Ampelbein> cchildress: ok. how did you install/remove the legacy drivers?
[23:27] <chamunks> Even an ubottu link for xorg configuration and dual video card / monitor setups.
[23:27] <ohzie> An0ne: unless you're sudo/gksudoing your browser(which you wouldn't
[23:27] <cchildress> Ampelbein: through synaptic. did a "complete removal"
[23:27] <ohzie> )
[23:27] <zvacet> An0ne : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:27] <An0ne> That bwoser exploit for example wont take effect if i wouldve used the Custom User?
[23:28] <Ampelbein> cchildress: that should get them out for reals though
[23:28] <cchildress> An0ne: no, it might still affect...but with limited privileges
[23:28] <bushbaby> cg2916: So you updated to Alpha 3 from a maverick install?
[23:28] <ohzie> An0ne: no it would run but it wouldn't have access to your whole system
[23:28] <cg2916> bushbaby: yup
[23:28] <ohzie> An0ne: what are you actually asking us
[23:28] <cchildress> Ampelbein: lol i know that's why i'm confused
[23:28] <ohzie> An0ne: Do you want to just not have to put in your password all the time?
[23:28] <bushbaby> cg2916: So what happens at boot?
[23:28] <An0ne> Weither i should use the administrator or custom
[23:29] <ohzie> An0ne: use the regular user and sudo things when you have to
[23:29] <ohzie> An0ne: It's just the way to go
[23:29] <cg2916> bushbaby: i select the 2.38 from the grub menu, it says "Error: File not found", then boots to Maveric
[23:29] <skullboy> someone explain this line "geometry 1024 768 1024 768 16"
[23:29] <ohzie> An0ne: As you learn more about linux, more of this will make sense to you
[23:29] <cg2916> bushbaby: Same when I choose 2.35
[23:29] <cchildress> Ampelbein: would there be any merit to re-installing and then re-purging the offending package?
[23:29] <zvacet> An0ne : custom (without admin privileges) for every day use
[23:29] <bushbaby> cg2916: You have maverick on another partition i presume?
[23:29] <ohzie> skullboy: 1024 pixels horizontally, 768 vertically, and 16 bit color.
[23:29] <cg2916> bushbaby: separate from windows
[23:30] <ohzie> skullboy: not sure why it has the pixels listed twice
[23:30] <An0ne> I can imagine that people set theirself as administrator for easyness but that doesnt mean its a smart thing to-do :P
[23:30] <Ampelbein> cchildress: don't think so. what does 'dpkg -l | grep b43' say?
[23:30] <cchildress> Ampelbein: nothing...
[23:31] <bushbaby> cg2916: Might just be a dud install, have you tried reinstalling?
[23:31] <zvacet> An0ne : I think it is common to have two accounts  :)
[23:31] <cg2916> bushbaby: dang it, it'll take 2 hours, but i'll try
[23:31] <skullboy> ohzie: im trying to forge a fbset report
[23:31] <cchildress> Ampelbein: what i want to know, is what was left behind
[23:31] <bushbaby> cg2916: You can try and copy the 2.35 binaries across but it's probably a safer bet to try reinstalling first
[23:32] <ohzie> skullboy: why
[23:32] <cchildress> Ampelbein: if it's just a file in /lib/firmware, i should be able to remove it
[23:32] <cg2916> ok
[23:32] <cchildress> same with a config file
[23:32] <skullboy> ohzie: because i need it for qingy but fb0 ist a valid device on my system
[23:32] <Ampelbein> cchildress: what is shown in jockey-gtk? only the STA or also the b43?
[23:33] <cchildress> Ampelbein: that's the problem..only the STA...the b43 doesn't show up even when installed
[23:33] <cchildress> very odd :/
[23:33] <cg2916> bushbaby: hmm, i do update-manager -d, and it shows software updates
[23:33] <chamunks> Anyone got any information on setting up ATI / AMD video cards Catalyst driver and Xorg.conf?
[23:34] <cchildress> chamunks: should be fairly automatic. what card do you have, and which version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:34] <ohzie> skullboy: Are you having this problem: http://bugs.gentoo.org/38863 ?
[23:34] <bushbaby> cg2916: is this in natty or maverick?
[23:35] <Ampelbein> cchildress: just to be sure:  ndiswrapper-utils isn't installed and ndiswrapper module is not loaded? same with the ssb and b43/44 module
[23:35] <chamunks> cchildress: Heh its never straight forward with newer hardware. I'm rockin two AMD Sapphire HD6850's and I want to get my dual monitors working again or at least the darn catalyst driver.
[23:35] <cg2916> bushbaby: maveric
[23:35] <cchildress> chamunks: you're right; that's far from straightforward lol
[23:35] <skullboy> ohzie: no and by the way i run ubuntu 10.10 not gentoo
[23:35] <cchildress> chamunks: afraid i've never attempted what you are in linux, sorry but i don't think i'd be helpful
[23:36] <chamunks> cchildress: I figured since sapphire doesent supply a driver that I could maybe cheap out and go with the amd driver for the HD6850.
[23:36] <ohzie> skullboy: Packages have similar problems cross-distro
[23:36] <skullboy> ohzie: good point
[23:36] <bushbaby> cg2916: the distribution update to natty you mean?
[23:36] <ohzie> skullboy: and gentoo boys are fantastically intense about their documentation.
[23:36] <chamunks> cchildress: I
[23:36] <cchildress> Ampelbein: no, it looks like i'm free of ndis-anything
[23:36] <cg2916> bushbaby: uhhh, i don't think so
[23:37] <bushbaby> cg2916: or just software updates, in which case, is there a kernel update in there?
[23:37] <cchildress> chamunks: i always go with standard amd drivers
[23:37] <skullboy> ohzie: thanks for the tip ill keep that in mind
[23:37] <cchildress> chamunks: fwiw
[23:37] <ohzie> skullboy: no problem
[23:37] <Ampelbein> cchildress: then I'm afraid I don't know any further.
[23:37] <cchildress> Ampelbein: well, thank you very much for your help, anyway
[23:37] <cg2916> bushbaby: i didn't see it, and it's not making me restart (it's done)
[23:37] <awesomenickname_> nailed the problem
[23:37] <awesomenickname_> gnome-settings-daemon screwed my keyboard once again
[23:37] <chamunks> cchildress: I'm thinking that my biggest issue is xorg.conf  If I can figure out how to build a barebones xorg.conf that will recognize my video card's and their identifiers that would be best.
[23:37] <cchildress> Ampelbein: ah HAH. i think i may have found it...hold on...
[23:38] <bushbaby> cg2916: unlikely to have been a kernel update then. can you mount the natty partition?
[23:38] <cchildress> chamunks: lol gentoo much?
[23:38] <skullboy> ohzie: the problem is there is no dev for fb0
[23:38] <chamunks> cchildress: I dont really need spoonfeeding but any suggestions or possible research might help.
[23:38] <cg2916> bushbaby: idk, i don't even think it installed right (where would I find it?)
[23:38] <cchildress> Ampelbein: i think the 'bcmwl-kernel-source' package hasn't been completely removed...and that's for STA
[23:38] <chamunks> cchildress: Actually have never touched gentoo past an early version like 10 years ago when I first tried using linux.
[23:39] <cchildress> chamunks: i really hate to say it but besides snarky humor i probably won't be much help
[23:39] <cchildress> sorry :(
[23:39] <Ampelbein> cchildress: hmm, if it's installed as dependency it should be removed by synaptic/aptitude when purging.
[23:39] <chamunks> cchildress: its alright I was hopeful :P
[23:39] <cchildress> i've never used dual video cards in linux
[23:39] <bushbaby> cg2916: what's the output of 'uname -r' in a terminal?
[23:39] <ohzie> skullboy: HMM.
[23:39] <chamunks> cchildress: I have no idea how to address a video card at all lol.  But I know that xorg.conf wants me to do so.
[23:39] <randomuser> can someone help me build a simple kickstart to source an NFS installation tree?
[23:40] <ohzie> skullboy: sec
[23:40] <cchildress> chamunks: it's just a section in xorg.conf...it's been 3-4 years since i hand-configed an xorg.conf myself
[23:40] <cg2916> bushbaby: 2.6.38-6-generic
[23:41] <bushbaby> cg2916: well you're currently using the natty kernel. are you sure you're in maverick right now?
[23:41] <chamunks> cchildress: hmm its all good I should probably sleep on this problem and be content with the fact that my computer is working lol... :S grumble grumble.
[23:41] <chamunks> cchildress: well thanks for your time and attention either way.
[23:41] <cg2916> it says maverick in about ubuntu, any other way i can check?
[23:41] <ohzie> skullboy: did you install the dependancies listed on the qingy website and build from source?
[23:41] <mgmuscari> i've got an apache2 server running on an amazon ec2 instance, and i've followed the steps given here for setting up HTTPS: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html. lsof -i tells me that apache2 is listening on 443, and i have no rules set in iptables, however remote clients can't connect. more troubleshooting ideas?
[23:42] <bushbaby> cg2916: what's the output of 'cat /etc/issue'?
[23:42] <cchildress> Ampelbein: yeah that didn't fix anything...hmm
[23:42] <mgmuscari> running ubuntu server 10.04 LTS
[23:42] <skullboy> ohzie: all of em
[23:42] <cg2916> bushbaby: wow, it's Ubuntu natty (development branch) \n \l
[23:43] <bushbaby> cg2916: Seems like the old kernels are playing up. in which case run 'sudo apt-get auto-remove' should clean it up.
[23:43] <bushbaby> cg2916: 'sudo apt-get autoremove'* my error.
[23:43] <rob0917> is unity built on top of gnome 3 or gnome 2 ?
[23:44] <cg2916> bushbaby: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[23:44] <Yoinx> bushbaby, I think i love you now... since you didn't say "My bad"
[23:44]  * Yoinx shudders
[23:44] <bushbaby> Yoinx: haha thanks. I never understood why people used that term.. terrible grammar if you ask me.
[23:45] <Yoinx> ....have you seen the new gain commercials?
[23:45] <bushbaby> cg2916: update and upgrade your packages 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[23:45] <Jordan_U> !ot | Yoinx
[23:46] <cg2916> bushbaby: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[23:46] <zvacet> cg2916 :sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:46] <dagnachewa> hi all
[23:46] <Yoinx> do you have synaptic, or update manager open?
[23:46] <bushbaby> cg2916: any other apt-get commands open? update-manager still running?
[23:46] <frustro> I need to create an img of a few files to a floppy image. anyone know of a good way to do that?
[23:46] <dagnachewa> anyone here installed rstudio ? an IDE for R?
[23:46] <cg2916> bushbaby: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[23:47] <zvacet> cg2916 : so is another process using it?
[23:47] <bushbaby> cg2916: yeah, check for other running apt-get processing in running terminals. or update-manager.
[23:47] <cg2916> bushbaby: new to ubuntu, how?
[23:48] <bushbaby> cg2916: ok is Update manager stil running? any other open windows?
[23:48] <zvacet> cg2916 : check if ubuntu software center,synaptic or update manager is running
[23:48] <cg2916> bushbaby: chromium and terminal
[23:48] <Yoinx> Just look around... if you have synaptic package manager, update manager, a apt-get going somewhere....
[23:48] <Yoinx> what's in the terminal?
[23:48] <bushbaby> cg2916: ok what's going on in terminal? just the apt-get command you just pressed?
[23:49] <cg2916> bushbaby: working now, i had software center earlier
[23:49] <randomuser> so, uhh... kickstart? anyone familiar with kickstart?
[23:49] <cg2916> bushbaby: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[23:49] <bushbaby> cg2916: ok good. try 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[23:50] <cg2916> bushbaby: same result
[23:51] <Scunizi> sometime in the last 4 days my usb headset speaker volume has diminished to a point where it's difficult to hear anything but the mic is working fine.  Headset works find on another ubuntu machine. Pavucontrol says volume is all the way up and the sound indication line is bouncing at the high volume end.. Any help fixing this appriciated.
[23:52] <cg2916> bushbaby: you there?
[23:52] <Yoinx> cg2916, you could go through here. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/e-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-open-11-resource-temporarily-unavailable-360554/#post4254103
[23:52] <bushbaby> cg2916: hmmm ok. well seeing as natty boots ok but grub is showing duff kernels run 'sudo update-grub' to see what it finds
[23:52] <Yoinx> if bushbaby doesnt come back
[23:52] <Yoinx> nvm
[23:52] <FloodBot2> Yoinx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:53] <bushbaby> cg2916: Yeah sorry, was tying madly at my command line (I'm on natty too) to try and work out some solutions
[23:53] <aeon-ltd> Scunizi: if settings are the same for both machines, and the ports are fine - iit seems more likely theres a wiring problem in the headset
[23:54] <prix83> how can disattivate touchpad drivers and install new ones ??
[23:54] <cg2916> anybody?
[23:54] <Scunizi> aeon-ltd: that's just it.. no issues with the wiring.. checked on 1 additional ubuntu box, 1 kubuntu box and windows.. headset is good (that was my first thought-wiring).. the only difference on my desktop that has the issue is it has both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed for switching on login depending on my mood that day..
[23:55] <bushbaby> cg2916: I've made two responses thus far...?
[23:55] <Yoinx> Scunizi, try another set of headphones on the quiet computer. Maybe the port's bad
[23:55] <slug0> how do i get to the perl room?
[23:56] <Scunizi> Yoinx: perhaps.. but I don't have another set of usb headset/mic
[23:56] <cg2916> hello?
[23:56] <Yoinx> oh, it's usb?
[23:56] <Scunizi> Yoinx: yes
[23:56] <Yoinx> sorry, I missed that part... do you have the right drivers for it on that box?
[23:57] <Scunizi> Yoinx: it's been working fine since Xmas.. just in the last 4 days it got "quiet" on the speaker side.. mic works fine
[23:57] <slug0> topic
[23:57] <cg2916> i need help
[23:57] <bushbaby> cg2916: You seem to be having connection problems if you can't see anyone? Try resetting your client.
[23:57] <zvacet> cg2916 : try sudo aptitude smart-upgrade
[23:58] <frustro>  strange vbox/ubuntu/freebsd/floppy question.  I need to custom build freebsd for freenas because my sas controller is not supported.  freebsd install requires a floppy. the card vendor only supplies files.  Anyone know of a way on ubuntu to create an floppy img with those files so i can mount it in my vm?