[09:22] <Aquina> HELO
[09:22] <Aquina> :-)
[09:22] <ochosi> hi Aquina 
[14:11] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[16:57] <Aquina> 'lo charlie!
[17:07] <charlie-tca> Hello, Aquina 
[17:49] <Aquina> cu
[18:08] <pleia2> is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing up to date?
[18:09] <pleia2> thinking of getting some folks to do xubuntu testing for our global jam
[18:09] <charlie-tca> pretty close
[18:09] <charlie-tca> I will make sure then
[18:09] <pleia2> thank you :)
[18:10] <charlie-tca> no problem
[18:10] <pleia2> livecd testing should be pretty easy for a jam event
[18:10] <ochosi> nice! looking forward to the testing results
[18:10] <charlie-tca> sure
[18:10] <ochosi> pleia2: will you be testing daily-builds or a3?
[18:11] <charlie-tca> daily-live, I hope
[18:11] <pleia2> daily-live makes the most sense, this will be on apr 3rd
[18:11] <charlie-tca> We have beta1 March 31
[18:12] <ochosi> nice
[18:12] <pleia2> ah yes, just looked at the release schedule
[18:12] <charlie-tca> hoping to get valid images tomorrow, desktop cd's are broken for parted again
[18:12] <pleia2> I'll ask you guys before I burn the disks and run off to my event :)
[18:15] <ochosi> charlie-tca: unfortunately i already know that i won't be able to make the meeting this week
[18:15] <ochosi> (again)
[18:15] <ochosi> i got really nice last-minute concert tickets :)
[18:15] <ochosi> (concert was already sold-out)
[18:15] <charlie-tca> Last chance for changes this week
[18:15] <ochosi> yeah, btw, i fixed the icon theme with mr_pouit on the weekend
[18:16] <ochosi> also applied a few last panel-fixes to greybird
[18:16] <charlie-tca> Last install that worked, I only got one workspace on the finished installation
[18:16] <charlie-tca> I get two on the live cd
[18:16] <ochosi> hm, strange
[18:16] <charlie-tca> But that might have been something broke too
[18:16] <ochosi> most likely
[18:16] <ochosi> other than that i think artwork is pretty final from my side
[18:17] <ochosi> only thing i'm working on now with knome is the slideshow
[18:17] <charlie-tca> Great! Thanks for all your help
[18:17] <ochosi> but we'll finish it (hopefully) on wednesday
[18:17] <ochosi> np
[18:17] <ochosi> so i think then only gmusicbrowser has to be updated and we're in bugfix mode :)
[18:17] <charlie-tca> I didn't bother with the single workspace thing, since I haven't been able to verify it
[18:18] <charlie-tca> gmusicbrowser got the new icon on the live desktop today
[18:18] <ochosi> hard to judge, my install was always only updated, maybe i'll do a clean install for the beta
[18:18] <ochosi> ah good to know
[18:18] <ochosi> so that worked
[18:20] <ochosi> charlie-tca: ok, got to go now and won't be around much tomorrow
[18:20] <ochosi> if last-minute issues come up ping me on wednesday (or in between, i always read the backlog)
[18:21] <charlie-tca> there is an issue with the update
[18:21] <charlie-tca> In file "/usr/share/menu/gmusicbrowser", at (or in the definition that ends at) line 7:
[18:21] <charlie-tca> icon="gmusicbrowser.png"
[18:21] <charlie-tca> when updating in natty
[18:21] <ochosi> interesting
[18:21] <ochosi> what version is that then?
[18:21] <charlie-tca> That was yesterday's natty update
[18:21] <charlie-tca> the rest is 
[18:21] <charlie-tca> Unexpected end of line.
[18:21] <charlie-tca> Skipping file because of errors...
[18:22] <charlie-tca> copied from terminal at end of updates
[18:23] <ochosi> have to find the changelog for 1.1.6-1
[18:24] <ochosi> hm, this version doesn't contain any modifications by me
[18:24] <ochosi> so no clue why it doesn't install
[18:25] <ochosi> mr_pouit, micahg: could you check out what charlie just posted? ^
[18:25] <charlie-tca> Did you run update manager yesterday?
[18:26] <ochosi> hm, i'm testing/using my own spin of gmusicbrowser in natty to check whether what we'll hopefully get for natty soon works ok already
[18:26] <ochosi> so i can't say
[18:26] <charlie-tca> oh
[18:26] <ochosi> but i'll definitely test this when i'm home
[18:26] <charlie-tca> and I have the ppa enabled, too
[18:26] <ochosi> oh :)
[18:26] <ochosi> i see
[18:26] <ochosi> so what version is it you're using?
[18:26] <charlie-tca> that might be the issue
[18:26] <ochosi> probably
[18:26] <charlie-tca> 1.1.6ppa11
[18:27] <ochosi> hm, strange
[18:27] <ochosi> i installed and tested that on maverick, no problems there
[18:27] <ochosi> i'll check when i'm home
[18:27] <ochosi> thanks for the heads up :)
[18:27] <charlie-tca> but this is natty
[18:27] <charlie-tca> no problem
[18:27] <charlie-tca> Is it time to turn that ppa off?
[18:27] <ochosi> micahg, mr_pouit: ok, forget my comment from before, i guess i'll have to take care of that
[18:28] <ochosi> charlie-tca: well hopefully this week, the gmusicbrowser dev has merged most of my changes upstream, but he has to release a new version (1.1.7) that includes those changes
[18:28] <ochosi> he told me he'll decide when to do the release today
[18:28] <charlie-tca> okay
[18:29] <ochosi> i'll then coordinate the rest with mr_pouit and micahg 
[18:29]  * micahg will take a look
[18:29] <ochosi> hey micahg :)
[18:29] <ochosi> micahg: well most likely the problem is somewhere in the menu-file or another file in debian/
[18:30] <micahg> ochosi: k, will have to check later
[18:31] <ochosi> micahg: i decided to remove the xpm icon from debian/ and replaced it with a png
[18:31] <ochosi> micahg: supposedly it's not used anymore and it overrides the nicer png icons
[18:31] <ochosi> anyhow, g2g now
[18:32] <ochosi> see you later or on wednesday
[21:38] <micahg> charlie-tca: yeah, that would be ochosi's version, not mine
[21:38] <charlie-tca> Thanks for checking on it
[21:39]  * micahg is reinstalling the archive version to be sure there are no install issues
[21:40] <micahg> now that I figured out how to import into git, the next update should be smoother, I just hope it's all bug fix/UI stuff :)
[21:40] <charlie-tca> I guess I better turn the ppa off now, so I don't pick up bugs that way any more
[21:41] <micahg> charlie-tca: eh, you might want to wait until 1.1.7 is in the archive unless you don't mind a degraded experience
[21:41] <charlie-tca> I mind
[21:41] <micahg> :)
[21:41] <charlie-tca> I hate going backwards, it really is unpleasant 
[21:47] <micahg> charlie-tca: do you know anything about exo-mount being missing?
[21:48] <charlie-tca> um, there was something about it in Xfce4.8
[21:49] <mr_pouit> micahg: dropped in 4.8
[21:49] <charlie-tca> I can't quite remember what it broke
[21:49] <mr_pouit> it should only be used by thunar-vfs for legacy purposes
[21:49] <micahg> mr_pouit: hmm,was libexo-3 supposed to be purged on upgrade?
[21:49] <micahg> mr_pouit: hmm,was libexo-0.3-1 supposed to be purged on upgrade?
[21:50] <mr_pouit> yeah, I've more or less ported everything
[21:51] <micahg> yeah, xfce4-volstatus-icon seems the be the only binary depending on it
[21:51] <mr_pouit> yep, I asked from rm after feature freeze
[21:51] <micahg> \o/ hal goes with it :)
[21:52] <mr_pouit> s/from/for/
[21:52] <micahg> should be fine, it break s stuff if it's left
[21:52] <micahg> mr_pouit: archive rm?
[21:52] <mr_pouit> yes
[21:53] <micahg> you can do that up to final freeze AFAIk
[21:53] <mr_pouit> Bug #724614
[21:53] <micahg> even past final freeze for a leaf package that shouldn't be released
[21:54] <mr_pouit> they should remove it eventually if they want to clean nbs before releasing ;-)
[21:54] <micahg> places plugin still doesn't work
[21:54] <micahg> mount and open gives me an exo-mount error
[21:55] <mr_pouit> yep, unfortunately it will be half-broken…
[21:55] <mr_pouit> you can open dirs but no mount/umount anything
[21:55]  * micahg still has thunar-vfs installed
[21:55] <micahg> time to clean house :)
[21:55] <micahg> :(
[21:56]  * micahg can't use places
[21:56] <micahg> mr_pouit: is there a sane alternative to places?
[21:56]  * micahg has to keep unplugging/replugging to mount
[21:57] <charlie-tca> a launcher for thunar, that opens to ~/   ?
[21:58] <mr_pouit> micahg: we replaced it by directory-menu (another plugin) in the default install
[21:58] <micahg> I use it more for mount/unmount
[21:58] <micahg> mr_pouit: ah, thanks, will add that
[21:58] <mr_pouit> but directory-mount doesn't do miount/unmount
[21:58] <charlie-tca> Once thunar is open, it can be used for mount/umount, can't it?
[21:59] <charlie-tca> Not quite the same, but close, at least
[21:59] <mr_pouit> micahg: you might want to try the patches attached at http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6663
[22:00] <mr_pouit> II only noticed them two or three days ago
[22:01] <mr_pouit> and they are a bit too big to introduce them right now (well, at least if they were blessed by upstream I'd be more enthusiastic)
[22:03]  * micahg still needs hal for the governor plugin