TheHaraldMamarok: hehe, some rebel, just not eternal, more like until he falls asleep ^^00:10
saulotoledo_KDE on Kubuntu don't allow me change the time like normal user00:20
saulotoledo__Lost my connection00:22
saulotoledo__The bug who don't allow change the time was reported to Debian00:22
saulotoledo__The bug with Kubuntu is the same reported here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25466900:29
ubottuKDE bug 254669 in kcm_clock "I can't change date/time with normal user" [Normal,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo]00:29
saulotoledo__I need exit, will lost my connection, somebody could check and report at kubuntu bugs? Thanks00:30
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ScottKWorks fine here.01:15
nixternalguy reports a bug in debian and i thought someone else reported it, therefor possibly verifying something03:23
nixternallove when that happens03:23
nigelbRiddell: Postcards posted.04:09
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claydohwhich package would this go to? bug 73000812:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 730008 in Kubuntu PPA "After update to KDE 4.6.1 from 4.6.0 any KDE application executed with sudo or kdesudo looks ugly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73000812:27
claydohaffects natty as well12:27
yofelclaydoh: looks bad in what way? I can't reproduce it12:31
Riddellclaydoh: is it bug 734466 ?12:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 734466 in kdebase (Ubuntu) "[Kubuntu] processes run as superuser do not take on default theme (dup-of: 205201)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73446612:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 205201 in kdesudo (Ubuntu) "Programs run as root do not follow user theming" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20520112:35
claydohRiddell: yes, actually just found that12:36
debfxit might also be the bug where some application writes "4.7\libraryPath=" to ~/.config/Trolltech.conf12:37
claydohalthough I get a different theme12:37
claydohI get bespin12:38
debfxRiddell: could you remove the kde3 packages listed on bug #72738612:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 727386 in Ubuntu "Please remove several kde3 packages (source and binary)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72738612:51
Riddelldebfx: just getting around to removals now12:52
ScottKdebfx: I don't think we need to be in a rush about removals.  Lucid will be supported on the desktop as long as Natty, so getting rid of stuff now doesn't actually help us with supportability.12:53
ScottKIt's more the next LTS we need to worry about.12:53
debfxScottK: but it helps with people not wasting their time on packages that will get removed soon12:55
ScottKI suppose.12:55
debfxseveral kde3 packages have got ftbfs fixes12:58
ScottKNow that the DSO linker changes have been reverted, I doubt we'll see much more of that.13:00
debfxafaik --no-add-needed is still on13:07
ScottKdebfx: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-March/032632.html13:21
c2tarunRiddell, ping14:24
Daskreechafiestas: Hey! :)15:28
afiestasDaskreech: yep15:31
DaskreechHow's telepathy?15:33
Daskreech Anyone familar with upower powerdevil stuff?15:33
Daskreech Somone in #kubuntu has a non linear power scheme for monitor brightness15:34
afiestasDaskreech: non linear?15:35
Daskreechafiestas: yes pressing Monitor brightness up on the keyboard makes it go up then down then jump to high then dim then really bright15:36
afiestasI have a similar problem :/15:36
afiestasin my case it is because my hardware is increasing the brightness 1 step, then powerdevil is setting the step before, and finally 2 steps up15:37
afiestasso maybe we have the same issue15:37
Daskreechafiestas: is it a well known issue?15:37
Daskreechwant to compare notes?15:37
Daskreechafiestas: it's Alonea in #kubuntu 15:38
afiestasI can't right now15:39
Daskreechok cool15:41
Daskreechafiestas: Let me know when I can bug you I want to know if the telepathy contact list is usable15:41
afiestasDaskreech: I'm using it in a regular basis, so yes it is usable as far as you're only interested in text15:48
TheHaraldNightrose: ping15:49
NightroseTheHarald: pong15:49
TheHaraldNightrose: http://www.skillecosystem.net/images/dr_zoidberg.jpg15:49
TheHaraldjust wanted to share this with you :P15:50
Daskreechafiestas: There are plans for it beyond text? 15:50
NightroseTheHarald: :*15:50
TheHaraldNightrose: sry, tell me when I can hug you again without you having pain ^^15:50
shadeslayerTheHarald: have you killed apachelogger?15:50
Nightroseactually it's all good already again15:50
* TheHarald hugs Nightrose15:51
RiddellNightrose: you're in pain?15:51
* Nightrose hugs TheHarald15:51
NightroseRiddell: sunburn15:51
RiddellI did offer you suncream :(15:51
shadeslayerNightrose: did that happen in BLR?15:51
Riddellthe nasty man at charles de gaul stole my suncream15:51
* shadeslayer slept for like 24 hours after returning15:51
NightroseRiddell: yeah - i got some but it wasn't enough15:51
shadeslayerRiddell: what :O15:51
TheHaraldshadeslayer: no, I am his new clone, turns out lord google had 6 simple steps to get a clone15:51
Nightroseshadeslayer: yes15:51
shadeslayerNightrose: yikes ... 15:52
shadeslayerBLR is hot even for me15:52
shadeslayerit's pleasant here in DEL15:52
DaskreechI read that as BRD15:53
DaskreechI need to stop hanging around WOW players15:53
TheHaraldgerman + sun = lobster15:53
shadeslayerTheHarald: lolz15:53
TheHaraldactually that might be true for the better part of europe...15:54
shadeslayerand america too15:54
TheHaraldliving in southern europe must be fun ... in summer it must be like being invdaded by lobsters or something ^^15:54
TheHaraldshadeslayer: phonon + qtwebkit?15:57
shadeslayerdoesn't have a future if i work on it15:57
shadeslayeri'm like overloaded with projects15:58
shadeslayerapart from being broke 15:58
shadeslayerBLR is *expensive*15:58
shadeslayerTheHarald: right now doing some stuff for calligra and then maybe will do something for myowncloud15:59
TheHaraldhow did you get sucked in them projects?15:59
shadeslayerTheHarald: met manic and ingwa15:59
TheHarald...you are like a professional coder...16:00
TheHaraldexcept that you are bad and business stuff and don't get money out of it16:00
shadeslayerwhut? :D16:00
TheHaraldshadeslayer: you are prostituing yourself :P16:00
shadeslayerno i'm not16:00
shadeslayeralso need to finish the beej.us guide on socket programming16:01
TheHaraldshadeslayer: did you blog about neon yet?16:02
shadeslayerTheHarald: i need to blog about loads of stuff16:05
shadeslayerspinning custom ISO's for example16:05
shadeslayerconf.kde.in too16:05
shadeslayerwill do it this weekend16:05
TheHaraldyeah, like that is gonna happen :(16:06
TheHaraldyou always say you will blog and then you dont do it16:06
TheHaraldit is the most sad thing16:06
shadeslayerTheHarald: i will most certainly do it this weekend16:06
shadeslayerif i don't, file a bug report against me16:07
shadeslayerTheHarald: i also tried putting meego on my phone16:07
TheHaraldwhy woudl you do that?16:08
shadeslayerpartially successful ... i got x to boot up .. but before the interface could fully boot, i thought it was broken so i flashed it again, and since then it's not working16:08
shadeslayerTheHarald: for the lulz16:08
shadeslayerand just because i can16:08
TheHaraldwhat a waste of time 16:08
shadeslayerwill look at it again over the weekend16:09
TheHaraldyou could have done kubuntu mobile :P16:09
TheHaraldas having meego on the phone is not going to help kubuntu mobile development :P16:09
shadeslayerhahah :D16:09
shadeslayertrue that16:09
shadeslayerwill have a look at kubuntu mobile too16:09
shadeslayerTheHarald: i have no idea how to make it boot kubuntu mobile tho16:10
shadeslayerhow do i get the bootloader to load our kernel etc16:10
TheHaraldhow did you do it for meego ...16:10
shadeslayerflashed some sort of zImage16:12
shadeslayerthat was the product of compiling the HTC Desire Kernel16:12
TheHaraldshadeslayer: so you used the desire kernel?16:14
TheHaraldanyhow ... zimage == our vmlinuz16:14
shadeslayerTheHarald: maybe we can work on it over the weekend, really tired right now after conf.kde.in16:16
TheHaraldshadeslayer: you are giving all your spare time my friend :P16:21
TheHaraldshadeslayer: btw, it might be that our vmlinuz is too big ... for my tablet actually it is :)16:22
TheHaraldnot entirely sure why16:22
TheHaraldI mean16:22
TheHaraldobviously my device would like a smaller one :P16:22
TheHaraldbut why the omap3 default image is too big is rather odd as one would think it is rather small as it only targets a limited set of devices etc16:22
Riddellmgraesslin: hi16:27
mgraesslinRiddell: hi16:29
Riddellmgraesslin: from yesterday 22:08 < Riddell> mgraesslin: one of the Linaro folks is wanting to have kwin with openGLES packaged, is this at all sane?16:30
mgraesslinRiddell: yeah it is, though it requires building from master16:30
mgraesslinin general I would appreciate if a distro would ship it optionally before 4.7 release16:30
Riddelloh certainly, it won't be the recommended version16:31
mgraesslinmight also be very interesting for Kubuntu mobile btw16:33
Riddellmgraesslin: I get this error on running it  "KWin: The library /usr/lib/kde4/kwin3_oxygen.so is not a KWin plugin."16:33
mgraesslinthat's probably due to Oxygen needing the master liboxygen16:34
mgraesslinmy personal solution: don't build oxygen16:34
Riddellmgraesslin: don't build kwin3_oxygen.so?16:35
mgraesslinnot from master - it works fine with the one from 4.616:35
Riddellyep, will try, thanks16:36
RiddellScottK: what's the state of KDE and ARM these days?16:38
Riddelldoods, what should I report to the canonical desktop team meeting?  I've no idea what's been going on for the last week16:41
shadeslayerhaha :D16:42
TheHarald"everyone was busy reading blogs about how the free desktop is failing"16:42
yofelhm... I only remember discussing koffice with c2tarun16:42
* TheHarald wonders why kubuntu-mobile-default-settings is not in a bzr branch16:42
TheHaraldRiddell: "kubuntu is bug free, team was on vacation, expected to be back by end of march" ^^16:43
shadeslayerfregl: fyi the qml bug in my app still exsists with 4.7.216:44
TheHaraldshadeslayer: do we have a UDS scheduler yet?16:44
TheHaraldRiddell: what is the status of mobile image building?16:45
shadeslayerTheHarald: i forgit16:45
TheHaraldthought so16:45
TheHaraldyou are not a good a clone as I though16:45
RiddellTheHarald: that's a good question16:45
Riddellapt-cache show nodm16:45
Riddellthat now includes the line  Task: kubuntu-mobile16:45
Riddellwhich suggests the launchpad update has been rolled out16:45
TheHaraldtalking about nodm...16:45
TheHaraldwe need a udev rule or something to shut down16:45
Riddellso hopefully kubuntu-mobile is now being built from universe16:45
TheHaraldas ksmserver will not shutdown with nodm16:45
TheHaraldimproved default-settings coming up16:46
DaskreechRiddell: tell them http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Keep_Calm_and_Carry_On_Poster.svg16:46
TheHaraldsurprsingly that opened in kate16:48
c2tarunRiddell, ping16:49
yofelbtw, could someone upload the SRU for bug 730369? 16:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 730369 in qt-sdk (Ubuntu) "qt-sdk omitted from Maverick amd64 Packages file" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73036916:49
Riddellc2tarun: sorry I'm still being slow due to illness, I'll get to your e-mail soon16:49
c2tarunRiddell, just wanted to ask for that :) no prob thanks16:49
c2tarunRiddell, meanwhile is there is any other work?16:50
Riddellc2tarun: you could check if there's a new kdepim release candidate16:50
TheHaraldSetting up hpijs (3.11.1-2ubuntu1) ...16:50
c2tarunRiddell, sure16:50
TheHaraldfun to read on a mobile system16:50
Riddellc2tarun: it would be on ftp.kde.org if there is16:50
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dpmapachelogger, I removed Qt Quick from the proposed sessions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek, as we've got it covered by Qt people who signed up for sessions, but I've left the others as I think they'd still be very interesting16:53
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Riddelldpm: who's that J├╝rgen guy?  he's doing a load of qt quick sessions17:07
dpmRiddell, he's a guy from Nokia who does Qt training17:10
c2tarunRiddell, where is he doing qt quick sessions?17:10
dpmc2tarun, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek17:11
* shadeslayer is going through awesome Qt Quick videos17:11
c2tarunall are in april. 17:13
c2tarunshadeslayer, where are you visiting Qt quick videos?17:13
shadeslayerc2tarun: from the nokia site17:13
* c2tarun looking17:14
shadeslayerit's like a 802 MB download17:15
c2tarun:/ I am at home with only 1GB limit :(17:16
c2tarunmy friends have night unlimited plan :) I'll get from them17:16
c2tarunwhy is kde network manager not displaying the dsl connections available? is it a bug?17:17
Riddellc2tarun: missing feature, kde network manager has plenty of them17:36
c2tarunRiddell, I temporarily have to use a DSL connection, I created a connection on ubuntu and it worked fine but when I created a dsl connection on kubuntu its not displaying that connection17:37
apacheloggerdpm: roger roger17:46
dpmapachelogger, hey, I see you've added a session :-). But I really need to run so I don't miss an appointment. Can we talk about it tomorrow?17:52
dpmI'll leave IRC on, so I'll read the logs17:53
dpmsee ya!17:53
apacheloggerI signed up for monday on plasma widgets and friday on multimedia in qt17:53
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: ping17:53
apacheloggershadeslayer: ping17:54
* DarkwingDuck blinks17:56
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: are you feeling okay?17:57
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: I see an email from you....17:57
* DarkwingDuck ducks and runs17:57
* apachelogger slept 12 hours tonight...17:57
c2tarunRiddell, I looked on pim.kde.org asked on #kontact and #akonadi channel but failed to find the new version of kdepim, where can I get it.18:11
Riddellc2tarun: probably means there isn't one then18:13
Riddelldid you check on ftp.kde.org ?18:13
* c2tarun looking18:13
Riddellit would be in unstable folder if it exists18:13
Riddellkdepim releases don't always go to plan however18:14
c2tarunRiddell, our archive has 4.4.10 and in unstable folder latest is 4.4.92, I think its new.18:17
c2tarunsorry latest is
c2tarunwell this is strange the version in our archive is of just 8MB and this one is of 51 MB :/ how come such big difference?18:19
c2tarunRiddell, ^^18:20
Riddellwe're putting the unstable version into https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental18:21
c2tarunRiddell, ok I'll build it and upload it to this :)18:22
Riddellkdepim_4.5.94.1.orig.tar.bz2 (51.8 MiB)18:22
Riddellc2tarun: so we already have the latest18:22
Riddellthe RC never happened I guess18:22
Riddellthanks for checking18:22
c2tarunwell than anyother package that may have new version ready?18:23
c2tarunRiddell, ^^18:23
Riddellc2tarun: how about doing bug 683439 ?18:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 683439 in kdeedu (Ubuntu) "split kalgebra mobile" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68343918:24
Riddellneeds debian/control modified to create a kalgebra-common  and a kalgebra-mobile18:24
Riddellthem move the mobile files into kalgebra-mobile and all the files needed by both into kalgebra-common (in the debian/*install files)18:24
c2tarunRiddell, somebody is working on it, will it be ok, to hijack someones bug?18:25
Riddellc2tarun: that's neversfelde but he hasn't done anything on it in the weeks since he assigned it to himself, so go ahead18:25
Riddellneversfelde: or have you?18:26
neversfeldeRiddell: no, I forget about it18:26
neversfeldec2tarun: please take it over, I have not time atm18:26
c2tarunneversfelde, sure :)18:27
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: pong20:00
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you need to do either qt or kde development or ubuntu app developer week :)20:47
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Daskreechafiestas: is there a contact list ppa?22:29
ScottKRiddell: State is Qt is fixed and ubuntu-arm/linaro are supposed to be doing rebuilds of KDE with gcc4.5.  There's also some gl/gles stuff still needed that slangasek is working on.23:11

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