[00:10] Mamarok: hehe, some rebel, just not eternal, more like until he falls asleep ^^ [00:19] Hello [00:20] KDE on Kubuntu don't allow me change the time like normal user [00:22] Lost my connection [00:22] The bug who don't allow change the time was reported to Debian [00:29] The bug with Kubuntu is the same reported here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254669 [00:29] KDE bug 254669 in kcm_clock "I can't change date/time with normal user" [Normal,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo] [00:30] I need exit, will lost my connection, somebody could check and report at kubuntu bugs? Thanks === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [01:15] Works fine here. [03:23] guy reports a bug in debian and i thought someone else reported it, therefor possibly verifying something [03:23] love when that happens [04:09] Riddell: Postcards posted. === fabo_ is now known as fabo === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [08:55] morning === hunger_ is now known as hunger === e-jat_ is now known as e-jat === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [12:27] which package would this go to? bug 730008 [12:27] Launchpad bug 730008 in Kubuntu PPA "After update to KDE 4.6.1 from 4.6.0 any KDE application executed with sudo or kdesudo looks ugly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730008 [12:27] affects natty as well [12:31] claydoh: looks bad in what way? I can't reproduce it [12:34] claydoh: is it bug 734466 ? [12:34] Launchpad bug 734466 in kdebase (Ubuntu) "[Kubuntu] processes run as superuser do not take on default theme (dup-of: 205201)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734466 [12:35] Launchpad bug 205201 in kdesudo (Ubuntu) "Programs run as root do not follow user theming" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205201 [12:36] Riddell: yes, actually just found that [12:37] it might also be the bug where some application writes "4.7\libraryPath=" to ~/.config/Trolltech.conf [12:37] although I get a different theme [12:38] I get bespin [12:51] Riddell: could you remove the kde3 packages listed on bug #727386 [12:51] Launchpad bug 727386 in Ubuntu "Please remove several kde3 packages (source and binary)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727386 [12:52] debfx: just getting around to removals now [12:53] debfx: I don't think we need to be in a rush about removals. Lucid will be supported on the desktop as long as Natty, so getting rid of stuff now doesn't actually help us with supportability. [12:53] It's more the next LTS we need to worry about. [12:55] ScottK: but it helps with people not wasting their time on packages that will get removed soon [12:55] I suppose. [12:58] several kde3 packages have got ftbfs fixes [13:00] Now that the DSO linker changes have been reverted, I doubt we'll see much more of that. [13:07] afaik --no-add-needed is still on [13:21] debfx: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-March/032632.html [14:24] Riddell, ping [15:28] afiestas: Hey! :) [15:31] Daskreech: yep [15:33] How's telepathy? [15:33] Anyone familar with upower powerdevil stuff? [15:34] Somone in #kubuntu has a non linear power scheme for monitor brightness [15:35] Daskreech: non linear? [15:36] afiestas: yes pressing Monitor brightness up on the keyboard makes it go up then down then jump to high then dim then really bright [15:36] I have a similar problem :/ [15:37] in my case it is because my hardware is increasing the brightness 1 step, then powerdevil is setting the step before, and finally 2 steps up [15:37] so maybe we have the same issue [15:37] afiestas: is it a well known issue? [15:37] want to compare notes? [15:38] afiestas: it's Alonea in #kubuntu [15:39] I can't right now [15:41] ok cool [15:41] afiestas: Let me know when I can bug you I want to know if the telepathy contact list is usable [15:48] Daskreech: I'm using it in a regular basis, so yes it is usable as far as you're only interested in text [15:49] Nightrose: ping [15:49] TheHarald: pong [15:49] Nightrose: http://www.skillecosystem.net/images/dr_zoidberg.jpg [15:50] just wanted to share this with you :P [15:50] afiestas: There are plans for it beyond text? [15:50] :D [15:50] TheHarald: :* [15:50] Nightrose: sry, tell me when I can hug you again without you having pain ^^ [15:50] -.- [15:50] TheHarald: have you killed apachelogger? [15:50] actually it's all good already again [15:51] oh [15:51] * TheHarald hugs Nightrose [15:51] Nightrose: you're in pain? [15:51] * Nightrose hugs TheHarald [15:51] Riddell: sunburn [15:51] I did offer you suncream :( [15:51] Nightrose: did that happen in BLR? [15:51] the nasty man at charles de gaul stole my suncream [15:51] * shadeslayer slept for like 24 hours after returning [15:51] Riddell: yeah - i got some but it wasn't enough [15:51] Riddell: what :O [15:51] shadeslayer: no, I am his new clone, turns out lord google had 6 simple steps to get a clone [15:51] shadeslayer: yes [15:52] Nightrose: yikes ... [15:52] BLR is hot even for me [15:52] it's pleasant here in DEL [15:53] I read that as BRD [15:53] I need to stop hanging around WOW players [15:53] german + sun = lobster [15:53] TheHarald: lolz [15:54] actually that might be true for the better part of europe... [15:54] and america too [15:54] living in southern europe must be fun ... in summer it must be like being invdaded by lobsters or something ^^ [15:57] so [15:57] shadeslayer: phonon + qtwebkit? [15:57] doesn't have a future if i work on it [15:58] i'm like overloaded with projects [15:58] apart from being broke [15:58] BLR is *expensive* [15:59] TheHarald: right now doing some stuff for calligra and then maybe will do something for myowncloud [15:59] :O [15:59] how did you get sucked in them projects? [15:59] TheHarald: met manic and ingwa [15:59] :D [16:00] ...you are like a professional coder... [16:00] except that you are bad and business stuff and don't get money out of it [16:00] whut? :D [16:00] shadeslayer: you are prostituing yourself :P [16:00] lol [16:00] no i'm not [16:01] also need to finish the beej.us guide on socket programming [16:02] ... [16:02] shadeslayer: did you blog about neon yet? [16:05] TheHarald: i need to blog about loads of stuff [16:05] spinning custom ISO's for example [16:05] conf.kde.in too [16:05] will do it this weekend [16:06] yeah, like that is gonna happen :( [16:06] you always say you will blog and then you dont do it [16:06] it is the most sad thing [16:06] TheHarald: i will most certainly do it this weekend [16:07] if i don't, file a bug report against me [16:07] ack [16:07] TheHarald: i also tried putting meego on my phone [16:08] why woudl you do that? [16:08] partially successful ... i got x to boot up .. but before the interface could fully boot, i thought it was broken so i flashed it again, and since then it's not working [16:08] TheHarald: for the lulz [16:08] and just because i can [16:08] what a waste of time [16:09] will look at it again over the weekend [16:09] you could have done kubuntu mobile :P [16:09] as having meego on the phone is not going to help kubuntu mobile development :P [16:09] hahah :D [16:09] true that [16:09] will have a look at kubuntu mobile too [16:10] TheHarald: i have no idea how to make it boot kubuntu mobile tho [16:10] how do i get the bootloader to load our kernel etc [16:10] how did you do it for meego ... [16:12] flashed some sort of zImage [16:12] that was the product of compiling the HTC Desire Kernel [16:14] shadeslayer: so you used the desire kernel? [16:14] anyhow ... zimage == our vmlinuz [16:14] yes [16:16] TheHarald: maybe we can work on it over the weekend, really tired right now after conf.kde.in [16:21] shadeslayer: you are giving all your spare time my friend :P [16:22] shadeslayer: btw, it might be that our vmlinuz is too big ... for my tablet actually it is :) [16:22] not entirely sure why [16:22] I mean [16:22] obviously my device would like a smaller one :P [16:22] hah [16:22] but why the omap3 default image is too big is rather odd as one would think it is rather small as it only targets a limited set of devices etc [16:27] mgraesslin: hi [16:29] Riddell: hi [16:30] mgraesslin: from yesterday 22:08 < Riddell> mgraesslin: one of the Linaro folks is wanting to have kwin with openGLES packaged, is this at all sane? [16:30] Riddell: yeah it is, though it requires building from master [16:30] in general I would appreciate if a distro would ship it optionally before 4.7 release [16:31] oh certainly, it won't be the recommended version [16:33] might also be very interesting for Kubuntu mobile btw [16:33] mgraesslin: I get this error on running it "KWin: The library /usr/lib/kde4/kwin3_oxygen.so is not a KWin plugin." [16:34] that's probably due to Oxygen needing the master liboxygen [16:34] my personal solution: don't build oxygen [16:35] mgraesslin: don't build kwin3_oxygen.so? [16:35] not from master - it works fine with the one from 4.6 [16:36] yep, will try, thanks [16:38] ScottK: what's the state of KDE and ARM these days? [16:41] doods, what should I report to the canonical desktop team meeting? I've no idea what's been going on for the last week [16:42] haha :D [16:42] "everyone was busy reading blogs about how the free desktop is failing" [16:42] hm... I only remember discussing koffice with c2tarun [16:42] * TheHarald wonders why kubuntu-mobile-default-settings is not in a bzr branch [16:43] Riddell: "kubuntu is bug free, team was on vacation, expected to be back by end of march" ^^ [16:44] fregl: fyi the qml bug in my app still exsists with 4.7.2 [16:44] shadeslayer: do we have a UDS scheduler yet? [16:44] oops [16:45] Riddell: what is the status of mobile image building? [16:45] TheHarald: i forgit [16:45] *forgot [16:45] thought so [16:45] you are not a good a clone as I though [16:45] TheHarald: that's a good question [16:45] apt-cache show nodm [16:45] that now includes the line Task: kubuntu-mobile [16:45] which suggests the launchpad update has been rolled out [16:45] talking about nodm... [16:45] we need a udev rule or something to shut down [16:45] so hopefully kubuntu-mobile is now being built from universe [16:45] as ksmserver will not shutdown with nodm [16:46] improved default-settings coming up [16:46] Riddell: tell them http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Keep_Calm_and_Carry_On_Poster.svg [16:48] surprsingly that opened in kate [16:48] #fail [16:48] hi... [16:49] Riddell, ping [16:49] btw, could someone upload the SRU for bug 730369? [16:49] Launchpad bug 730369 in qt-sdk (Ubuntu) "qt-sdk omitted from Maverick amd64 Packages file" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730369 [16:49] c2tarun: sorry I'm still being slow due to illness, I'll get to your e-mail soon [16:49] Riddell, just wanted to ask for that :) no prob thanks [16:50] Riddell, meanwhile is there is any other work? [16:50] c2tarun: you could check if there's a new kdepim release candidate [16:50] Setting up hpijs (3.11.1-2ubuntu1) ... [16:50] Riddell, sure [16:50] fun to read on a mobile system [16:50] c2tarun: it would be on ftp.kde.org if there is === TheHarald is now known as apachelogger [16:53] apachelogger, I removed Qt Quick from the proposed sessions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek, as we've got it covered by Qt people who signed up for sessions, but I've left the others as I think they'd still be very interesting === tarun_ is now known as c2tarun [17:07] dpm: who's that Jürgen guy? he's doing a load of qt quick sessions [17:10] Riddell, he's a guy from Nokia who does Qt training [17:10] Riddell, where is he doing qt quick sessions? [17:11] c2tarun, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek [17:11] * shadeslayer is going through awesome Qt Quick videos [17:13] all are in april. [17:13] shadeslayer, where are you visiting Qt quick videos? [17:13] c2tarun: from the nokia site [17:14] * c2tarun looking [17:15] it's like a 802 MB download [17:16] :/ I am at home with only 1GB limit :( [17:16] my friends have night unlimited plan :) I'll get from them [17:17] why is kde network manager not displaying the dsl connections available? is it a bug? [17:36] c2tarun: missing feature, kde network manager has plenty of them [17:37] Riddell, I temporarily have to use a DSL connection, I created a connection on ubuntu and it worked fine but when I created a dsl connection on kubuntu its not displaying that connection [17:46] dpm: roger roger [17:52] apachelogger, hey, I see you've added a session :-). But I really need to run so I don't miss an appointment. Can we talk about it tomorrow? [17:53] sure [17:53] I'll leave IRC on, so I'll read the logs [17:53] see ya! [17:53] cya [17:53] I signed up for monday on plasma widgets and friday on multimedia in qt [17:53] JontheEchidna: ping [17:54] shadeslayer: ping [17:56] * DarkwingDuck blinks [17:57] apachelogger: are you feeling okay? [17:57] apachelogger: I see an email from you.... [17:57] * DarkwingDuck ducks and runs [17:57] * apachelogger slept 12 hours tonight... [17:58] Damn! [18:11] Riddell, I looked on pim.kde.org asked on #kontact and #akonadi channel but failed to find the new version of kdepim, where can I get it. [18:13] c2tarun: probably means there isn't one then [18:13] did you check on ftp.kde.org ? [18:13] * c2tarun looking [18:13] it would be in unstable folder if it exists [18:14] kdepim releases don't always go to plan however [18:17] Riddell, our archive has 4.4.10 and in unstable folder latest is 4.4.92, I think its new. [18:18] sorry latest is 4.5.94.1 [18:19] well this is strange the version in our archive is of just 8MB and this one is of 51 MB :/ how come such big difference? [18:20] Riddell, ^^ [18:21] we're putting the unstable version into https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental [18:22] Riddell, ok I'll build it and upload it to this :) [18:22] kdepim_4.5.94.1.orig.tar.bz2 (51.8 MiB) [18:22] c2tarun: so we already have the latest [18:22] the RC never happened I guess [18:22] thanks for checking [18:23] well than anyother package that may have new version ready? [18:23] Riddell, ^^ [18:24] c2tarun: how about doing bug 683439 ? [18:24] Launchpad bug 683439 in kdeedu (Ubuntu) "split kalgebra mobile" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683439 [18:24] needs debian/control modified to create a kalgebra-common and a kalgebra-mobile [18:24] them move the mobile files into kalgebra-mobile and all the files needed by both into kalgebra-common (in the debian/*install files) [18:25] Riddell, somebody is working on it, will it be ok, to hijack someones bug? [18:25] c2tarun: that's neversfelde but he hasn't done anything on it in the weeks since he assigned it to himself, so go ahead [18:26] huh? [18:26] neversfelde: or have you? [18:26] Riddell: no, I forget about it [18:26] sorry [18:26] c2tarun: please take it over, I have not time atm [18:27] neversfelde, sure :) [18:27] thanks [20:00] apachelogger: pong [20:47] JontheEchidna: you need to do either qt or kde development or ubuntu app developer week :) === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work [22:29] afiestas: is there a contact list ppa? [23:11] Riddell: State is Qt is fixed and ubuntu-arm/linaro are supposed to be doing rebuilds of KDE with gcc4.5. There's also some gl/gles stuff still needed that slangasek is working on.