[00:10] <TheHarald> Mamarok: hehe, some rebel, just not eternal, more like until he falls asleep ^^
[00:19] <saulotoledo_> Hello
[00:20] <saulotoledo_> KDE on Kubuntu don't allow me change the time like normal user
[00:22] <saulotoledo__> Lost my connection
[00:22] <saulotoledo__> The bug who don't allow change the time was reported to Debian
[00:29] <saulotoledo__> The bug with Kubuntu is the same reported here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254669
[00:30] <saulotoledo__> I need exit, will lost my connection, somebody could check and report at kubuntu bugs? Thanks
[01:15] <ScottK> Works fine here.
[03:23] <nixternal> guy reports a bug in debian and i thought someone else reported it, therefor possibly verifying something
[03:23] <nixternal> love when that happens
[04:09] <nigelb> Riddell: Postcards posted.
[08:55] <bambee> morning
[12:27] <claydoh> which package would this go to? bug 730008
[12:27] <claydoh> affects natty as well
[12:31] <yofel> claydoh: looks bad in what way? I can't reproduce it
[12:34] <Riddell> claydoh: is it bug 734466 ?
[12:36] <claydoh> Riddell: yes, actually just found that
[12:37] <debfx> it might also be the bug where some application writes "4.7\libraryPath=" to ~/.config/Trolltech.conf
[12:37] <claydoh> although I get a different theme
[12:38] <claydoh> I get bespin
[12:51] <debfx> Riddell: could you remove the kde3 packages listed on bug #727386
[12:52] <Riddell> debfx: just getting around to removals now
[12:53] <ScottK> debfx: I don't think we need to be in a rush about removals.  Lucid will be supported on the desktop as long as Natty, so getting rid of stuff now doesn't actually help us with supportability.
[12:53] <ScottK> It's more the next LTS we need to worry about.
[12:55] <debfx> ScottK: but it helps with people not wasting their time on packages that will get removed soon
[12:55] <ScottK> I suppose.
[12:58] <debfx> several kde3 packages have got ftbfs fixes
[13:00] <ScottK> Now that the DSO linker changes have been reverted, I doubt we'll see much more of that.
[13:07] <debfx> afaik --no-add-needed is still on
[13:21] <ScottK> debfx: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-March/032632.html
[14:24] <c2tarun> Riddell, ping
[15:28] <Daskreech> afiestas: Hey! :)
[15:31] <afiestas> Daskreech: yep
[15:33] <Daskreech> How's telepathy?
[15:33] <Daskreech>  Anyone familar with upower powerdevil stuff?
[15:34] <Daskreech>  Somone in #kubuntu has a non linear power scheme for monitor brightness
[15:35] <afiestas> Daskreech: non linear?
[15:36] <Daskreech> afiestas: yes pressing Monitor brightness up on the keyboard makes it go up then down then jump to high then dim then really bright
[15:36] <afiestas> I have a similar problem :/
[15:37] <afiestas> in my case it is because my hardware is increasing the brightness 1 step, then powerdevil is setting the step before, and finally 2 steps up
[15:37] <afiestas> so maybe we have the same issue
[15:37] <Daskreech> afiestas: is it a well known issue?
[15:37] <Daskreech> want to compare notes?
[15:38] <Daskreech> afiestas: it's Alonea in #kubuntu 
[15:39] <afiestas> I can't right now
[15:41] <Daskreech> ok cool
[15:41] <Daskreech> afiestas: Let me know when I can bug you I want to know if the telepathy contact list is usable
[15:48] <afiestas> Daskreech: I'm using it in a regular basis, so yes it is usable as far as you're only interested in text
[15:49] <TheHarald> Nightrose: ping
[15:49] <Nightrose> TheHarald: pong
[15:49] <TheHarald> Nightrose: http://www.skillecosystem.net/images/dr_zoidberg.jpg
[15:50] <TheHarald> just wanted to share this with you :P
[15:50] <Daskreech> afiestas: There are plans for it beyond text? 
[15:50] <Nightrose> :D
[15:50] <Nightrose> TheHarald: :*
[15:50] <TheHarald> Nightrose: sry, tell me when I can hug you again without you having pain ^^
[15:50] <Nightrose> -.-
[15:50] <shadeslayer> TheHarald: have you killed apachelogger?
[15:50] <Nightrose> actually it's all good already again
[15:51] <TheHarald> oh
[15:51]  * TheHarald hugs Nightrose
[15:51] <Riddell> Nightrose: you're in pain?
[15:51]  * Nightrose hugs TheHarald
[15:51] <Nightrose> Riddell: sunburn
[15:51] <Riddell> I did offer you suncream :(
[15:51] <shadeslayer> Nightrose: did that happen in BLR?
[15:51] <Riddell> the nasty man at charles de gaul stole my suncream
[15:51]  * shadeslayer slept for like 24 hours after returning
[15:51] <Nightrose> Riddell: yeah - i got some but it wasn't enough
[15:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what :O
[15:51] <TheHarald> shadeslayer: no, I am his new clone, turns out lord google had 6 simple steps to get a clone
[15:51] <Nightrose> shadeslayer: yes
[15:52] <shadeslayer> Nightrose: yikes ... 
[15:52] <shadeslayer> BLR is hot even for me
[15:52] <shadeslayer> it's pleasant here in DEL
[15:53] <Daskreech> I read that as BRD
[15:53] <Daskreech> I need to stop hanging around WOW players
[15:53] <TheHarald> german + sun = lobster
[15:53] <shadeslayer> TheHarald: lolz
[15:54] <TheHarald> actually that might be true for the better part of europe...
[15:54] <shadeslayer> and america too
[15:54] <TheHarald> living in southern europe must be fun ... in summer it must be like being invdaded by lobsters or something ^^
[15:57] <TheHarald> so
[15:57] <TheHarald> shadeslayer: phonon + qtwebkit?
[15:57] <shadeslayer> doesn't have a future if i work on it
[15:58] <shadeslayer> i'm like overloaded with projects
[15:58] <shadeslayer> apart from being broke 
[15:58] <shadeslayer> BLR is *expensive*
[15:59] <shadeslayer> TheHarald: right now doing some stuff for calligra and then maybe will do something for myowncloud
[15:59] <TheHarald> :O
[15:59] <TheHarald> how did you get sucked in them projects?
[15:59] <shadeslayer> TheHarald: met manic and ingwa
[15:59] <shadeslayer> :D
[16:00] <TheHarald> ...you are like a professional coder...
[16:00] <TheHarald> except that you are bad and business stuff and don't get money out of it
[16:00] <shadeslayer> whut? :D
[16:00] <TheHarald> shadeslayer: you are prostituing yourself :P
[16:00] <shadeslayer> lol
[16:00] <shadeslayer> no i'm not
[16:01] <shadeslayer> also need to finish the beej.us guide on socket programming
[16:02] <TheHarald> ...
[16:02] <TheHarald> shadeslayer: did you blog about neon yet?
[16:05] <shadeslayer> TheHarald: i need to blog about loads of stuff
[16:05] <shadeslayer> spinning custom ISO's for example
[16:05] <shadeslayer> conf.kde.in too
[16:05] <shadeslayer> will do it this weekend
[16:06] <TheHarald> yeah, like that is gonna happen :(
[16:06] <TheHarald> you always say you will blog and then you dont do it
[16:06] <TheHarald> it is the most sad thing
[16:06] <shadeslayer> TheHarald: i will most certainly do it this weekend
[16:07] <shadeslayer> if i don't, file a bug report against me
[16:07] <TheHarald> ack
[16:07] <shadeslayer> TheHarald: i also tried putting meego on my phone
[16:08] <TheHarald> why woudl you do that?
[16:08] <shadeslayer> partially successful ... i got x to boot up .. but before the interface could fully boot, i thought it was broken so i flashed it again, and since then it's not working
[16:08] <shadeslayer> TheHarald: for the lulz
[16:08] <shadeslayer> and just because i can
[16:08] <TheHarald> what a waste of time 
[16:09] <shadeslayer> will look at it again over the weekend
[16:09] <TheHarald> you could have done kubuntu mobile :P
[16:09] <TheHarald> as having meego on the phone is not going to help kubuntu mobile development :P
[16:09] <shadeslayer> hahah :D
[16:09] <shadeslayer> true that
[16:09] <shadeslayer> will have a look at kubuntu mobile too
[16:10] <shadeslayer> TheHarald: i have no idea how to make it boot kubuntu mobile tho
[16:10] <shadeslayer> how do i get the bootloader to load our kernel etc
[16:10] <TheHarald> how did you do it for meego ...
[16:12] <shadeslayer> flashed some sort of zImage
[16:12] <shadeslayer> that was the product of compiling the HTC Desire Kernel
[16:14] <TheHarald> shadeslayer: so you used the desire kernel?
[16:14] <TheHarald> anyhow ... zimage == our vmlinuz
[16:14] <shadeslayer> yes
[16:16] <shadeslayer> TheHarald: maybe we can work on it over the weekend, really tired right now after conf.kde.in
[16:21] <TheHarald> shadeslayer: you are giving all your spare time my friend :P
[16:22] <TheHarald> shadeslayer: btw, it might be that our vmlinuz is too big ... for my tablet actually it is :)
[16:22] <TheHarald> not entirely sure why
[16:22] <TheHarald> I mean
[16:22] <TheHarald> obviously my device would like a smaller one :P
[16:22] <shadeslayer> hah
[16:22] <TheHarald> but why the omap3 default image is too big is rather odd as one would think it is rather small as it only targets a limited set of devices etc
[16:27] <Riddell> mgraesslin: hi
[16:29] <mgraesslin> Riddell: hi
[16:30] <Riddell> mgraesslin: from yesterday 22:08 < Riddell> mgraesslin: one of the Linaro folks is wanting to have kwin with openGLES packaged, is this at all sane?
[16:30] <mgraesslin> Riddell: yeah it is, though it requires building from master
[16:30] <mgraesslin> in general I would appreciate if a distro would ship it optionally before 4.7 release
[16:31] <Riddell> oh certainly, it won't be the recommended version
[16:33] <mgraesslin> might also be very interesting for Kubuntu mobile btw
[16:33] <Riddell> mgraesslin: I get this error on running it  "KWin: The library /usr/lib/kde4/kwin3_oxygen.so is not a KWin plugin."
[16:34] <mgraesslin> that's probably due to Oxygen needing the master liboxygen
[16:34] <mgraesslin> my personal solution: don't build oxygen
[16:35] <Riddell> mgraesslin: don't build kwin3_oxygen.so?
[16:35] <mgraesslin> not from master - it works fine with the one from 4.6
[16:36] <Riddell> yep, will try, thanks
[16:38] <Riddell> ScottK: what's the state of KDE and ARM these days?
[16:41] <Riddell> doods, what should I report to the canonical desktop team meeting?  I've no idea what's been going on for the last week
[16:42] <shadeslayer> haha :D
[16:42] <TheHarald> "everyone was busy reading blogs about how the free desktop is failing"
[16:42] <yofel> hm... I only remember discussing koffice with c2tarun
[16:42]  * TheHarald wonders why kubuntu-mobile-default-settings is not in a bzr branch
[16:43] <TheHarald> Riddell: "kubuntu is bug free, team was on vacation, expected to be back by end of march" ^^
[16:44] <shadeslayer> fregl: fyi the qml bug in my app still exsists with 4.7.2
[16:44] <TheHarald> shadeslayer: do we have a UDS scheduler yet?
[16:44] <shadeslayer> oops
[16:45] <TheHarald> Riddell: what is the status of mobile image building?
[16:45] <shadeslayer> TheHarald: i forgit
[16:45] <shadeslayer> *forgot
[16:45] <TheHarald> thought so
[16:45] <TheHarald> you are not a good a clone as I though
[16:45] <Riddell> TheHarald: that's a good question
[16:45] <Riddell> apt-cache show nodm
[16:45] <Riddell> that now includes the line  Task: kubuntu-mobile
[16:45] <Riddell> which suggests the launchpad update has been rolled out
[16:45] <TheHarald> talking about nodm...
[16:45] <TheHarald> we need a udev rule or something to shut down
[16:45] <Riddell> so hopefully kubuntu-mobile is now being built from universe
[16:45] <TheHarald> as ksmserver will not shutdown with nodm
[16:46] <TheHarald> improved default-settings coming up
[16:46] <Daskreech> Riddell: tell them http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Keep_Calm_and_Carry_On_Poster.svg
[16:48] <TheHarald> surprsingly that opened in kate
[16:48] <TheHarald> #fail
[16:48] <c2tarun> hi...
[16:49] <c2tarun> Riddell, ping
[16:49] <yofel> btw, could someone upload the SRU for bug 730369? 
[16:49] <Riddell> c2tarun: sorry I'm still being slow due to illness, I'll get to your e-mail soon
[16:49] <c2tarun> Riddell, just wanted to ask for that :) no prob thanks
[16:50] <c2tarun> Riddell, meanwhile is there is any other work?
[16:50] <Riddell> c2tarun: you could check if there's a new kdepim release candidate
[16:50] <TheHarald> Setting up hpijs (3.11.1-2ubuntu1) ...
[16:50] <c2tarun> Riddell, sure
[16:50] <TheHarald> fun to read on a mobile system
[16:50] <Riddell> c2tarun: it would be on ftp.kde.org if there is
[16:53] <dpm> apachelogger, I removed Qt Quick from the proposed sessions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek, as we've got it covered by Qt people who signed up for sessions, but I've left the others as I think they'd still be very interesting
[17:07] <Riddell> dpm: who's that Jürgen guy?  he's doing a load of qt quick sessions
[17:10] <dpm> Riddell, he's a guy from Nokia who does Qt training
[17:10] <c2tarun> Riddell, where is he doing qt quick sessions?
[17:11] <dpm> c2tarun, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek
[17:11]  * shadeslayer is going through awesome Qt Quick videos
[17:13] <c2tarun> all are in april. 
[17:13] <c2tarun> shadeslayer, where are you visiting Qt quick videos?
[17:13] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: from the nokia site
[17:14]  * c2tarun looking
[17:15] <shadeslayer> it's like a 802 MB download
[17:16] <c2tarun> :/ I am at home with only 1GB limit :(
[17:16] <c2tarun> my friends have night unlimited plan :) I'll get from them
[17:17] <c2tarun> why is kde network manager not displaying the dsl connections available? is it a bug?
[17:36] <Riddell> c2tarun: missing feature, kde network manager has plenty of them
[17:37] <c2tarun> Riddell, I temporarily have to use a DSL connection, I created a connection on ubuntu and it worked fine but when I created a dsl connection on kubuntu its not displaying that connection
[17:46] <apachelogger> dpm: roger roger
[17:52] <dpm> apachelogger, hey, I see you've added a session :-). But I really need to run so I don't miss an appointment. Can we talk about it tomorrow?
[17:53] <apachelogger> sure
[17:53] <dpm> I'll leave IRC on, so I'll read the logs
[17:53] <dpm> see ya!
[17:53] <apachelogger> cya
[17:53] <apachelogger> I signed up for monday on plasma widgets and friday on multimedia in qt
[17:53] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: ping
[17:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ping
[17:56]  * DarkwingDuck blinks
[17:57] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: are you feeling okay?
[17:57] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: I see an email from you....
[17:57]  * DarkwingDuck ducks and runs
[17:57]  * apachelogger slept 12 hours tonight...
[17:58] <DarkwingDuck> Damn!
[18:11] <c2tarun> Riddell, I looked on pim.kde.org asked on #kontact and #akonadi channel but failed to find the new version of kdepim, where can I get it.
[18:13] <Riddell> c2tarun: probably means there isn't one then
[18:13] <Riddell> did you check on ftp.kde.org ?
[18:13]  * c2tarun looking
[18:13] <Riddell> it would be in unstable folder if it exists
[18:14] <Riddell> kdepim releases don't always go to plan however
[18:17] <c2tarun> Riddell, our archive has 4.4.10 and in unstable folder latest is 4.4.92, I think its new.
[18:18] <c2tarun> sorry latest is 4.5.94.1
[18:19] <c2tarun> well this is strange the version in our archive is of just 8MB and this one is of 51 MB :/ how come such big difference?
[18:20] <c2tarun> Riddell, ^^
[18:21] <Riddell> we're putting the unstable version into https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental
[18:22] <c2tarun> Riddell, ok I'll build it and upload it to this :)
[18:22] <Riddell> kdepim_4.5.94.1.orig.tar.bz2 (51.8 MiB)
[18:22] <Riddell> c2tarun: so we already have the latest
[18:22] <Riddell> the RC never happened I guess
[18:22] <Riddell> thanks for checking
[18:23] <c2tarun> well than anyother package that may have new version ready?
[18:23] <c2tarun> Riddell, ^^
[18:24] <Riddell> c2tarun: how about doing bug 683439 ?
[18:24] <Riddell> needs debian/control modified to create a kalgebra-common  and a kalgebra-mobile
[18:24] <Riddell> them move the mobile files into kalgebra-mobile and all the files needed by both into kalgebra-common (in the debian/*install files)
[18:25] <c2tarun> Riddell, somebody is working on it, will it be ok, to hijack someones bug?
[18:25] <Riddell> c2tarun: that's neversfelde but he hasn't done anything on it in the weeks since he assigned it to himself, so go ahead
[18:26] <neversfelde> huh?
[18:26] <Riddell> neversfelde: or have you?
[18:26] <neversfelde> Riddell: no, I forget about it
[18:26] <neversfelde> sorry
[18:26] <neversfelde> c2tarun: please take it over, I have not time atm
[18:27] <c2tarun> neversfelde, sure :)
[18:27] <neversfelde> thanks
[20:00] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: pong
[20:47] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: you need to do either qt or kde development or ubuntu app developer week :)
[22:29] <Daskreech> afiestas: is there a contact list ppa?
[23:11] <ScottK> Riddell: State is Qt is fixed and ubuntu-arm/linaro are supposed to be doing rebuilds of KDE with gcc4.5.  There's also some gl/gles stuff still needed that slangasek is working on.