[00:01] czesz [00:01] bjuti [00:02] well this is pretty much all i know [00:02] jak sprawdzic ile miejsca na dysku mam do dyspozycji? [00:02] jak dela? [00:02] nevem [00:02] smutne... ja tez... [00:03] sie mnie zebralo na stare lata uczyc nowego systemu ;o] [00:07] my english is poor... i have a question: how to check how many MB i have free on my hdd? [00:08] alyen: try df -k [00:08] ^^ or -m for megabytes [00:08] yeah [00:09] in terminal? please write all like for old man who first time have kubuntu ;o] [00:09] df -m [00:09] alyen: yes, in a terminal [00:09] ^^ type that exactly and press enter :) [00:09] (what tielk just said that is) [00:10] bjuti :o) it works :o) thanks ;o] [00:12] what do you use to mount an iso like a cd or dvd? [00:12] the command is called mount [00:12] alyen: "sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mount/point" [00:14] gosh... i'll try ;o] sudo... i must to learn more about terminal... i see that without terminal no way... [00:15] alyen: there is... [00:17] :s hmm kde-look.org seems to be down === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson === david is now known as Guest80285 [00:55] Hello everyone, I'm trying to get some help on Amarok [00:55] I'm trying to connect a Samsung Galaxy S to Amarok but I can't, any suggestion? [02:18] 96000 files on a Windows 7 share. All but one show up in my Linux mount, including all others in the same folder. I can't find any difference in the permissions. Any ideas? [02:26] Well, I moved it to my desktop and then back and now it's seen, but still so weird... [02:39] what is the thing to type for getting pulseaudio in term [02:52] A file is called Don't Stop.txt How do I escape the ' so I can mv it? [02:56] How do I enable shortcuts in Kubuntu? I want to configure a Ctrl-Alt-T shortcut to open Konsole, but I couldn't find any place to add it in Shortcuts and Gestures [02:58] Pranav_rcmas: application shortcuts can be added by edit the menu (right click kmenu > edit aplications or run kmenuedit) [02:59] (though I think that its just a front end to adding them to the shortcuts and gestures page) [03:10] hi [03:10] james147, thanks! [04:12] 1 === jasmine is now known as Guest99565 [06:28] hey fellas [06:29] natty wont boot for me, checked md5 sums burned 3 times, but all im really worried about is kde 4.6 [06:30] anybody here upgrade 10.04 lts to 4.6? [07:00] hey guys i installed lucid on my netbook and upgraded to maverick [07:00] and for some reason i dont have knetwork manager any more :( [07:00] how can i connect to a wifi connection with out it [07:08] eagles0513875: add the wireless widget [07:08] network interface, I think it's called [07:09] valorie: seems like though after the upgrade knetworkmanager isnt even installed for some reason [07:09] anyone here have problems with konqueror in 10.04 mutating into a runaway process that opens multiple windows? [07:10] Firefishe: i have noticed that when i open links from irc [07:10] i think any link for that matter would trip it [07:10] yeah...and it also happens when I do it in links when I'm in pokerth in a game [07:10] or when clicking in that software on the home page link for www.pokerth.com [07:10] any idea why? [07:10] Firefishe: if you file a bug i can confirm ti for you [07:10] no idea why though [07:12] eagles0513875: Should this be for KDE or Kubuntu? [07:14] file it against konqueror [07:14] Firefishe: can you link me once the bug is submitted [07:15] eagles0513875: I don't even know where to file this thing. on KDE.org? [07:15] launchpad [07:15] launchpad.net [07:15] ok [07:15] gotcha [07:15] brb [07:15] it will then be dealt with accordingly by the devs if need be they will file it upstream [07:19] eagles0513875_: you can install the widget from the liveCD or USB? [07:19] oh, you upgraded [07:19] ya this is a netbook [07:19] used usb to install lucid [07:19] still, you should have it on your system somewhere [07:19] then upgraded [07:19] all i have according to locate is the .mo files [07:20] as well as a .desktop file [07:20] hmmm [07:20] also when i first installed maverick on my netbook [07:20] for some reason even though i told grub to be installed to the MBR on the hard disk the installer opted to install grub on my pen drive lol [07:20] same thing happened to me [07:21] that was an easy fix but rather curious as to why it installed it on the pen drive [07:21] I wrote a blog post about it [07:21] valorie: did you file a bug?# [07:21] it is a major icky horrible BUG [07:21] sure, let me find that [07:21] valorie: depends how you look at it [07:21] how else can I look at it? [07:21] valorie: can be ickky yet also secure in a sense that if the netbook goes missing they cant access your data without a reformat [07:22] ha [07:22] all depends on how you look at things lol === family is now known as RiZoom === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [07:38] valorie: do you know if there is a knetwork manager package available for offline installation? [07:39] woot found it [07:40] valorie: :) [07:40] found where i can download deb pkg for knetwork [07:41] nice! [07:41] did you get my email? [07:42] ill look now [07:42] lol now im connected [07:44] just saw i added the widget to the desktop [07:44] \o/ [07:45] valorie: turns out i do have network manager installed yet in command line it says otherwise O_o [07:45] ty [07:45] valorie: also got the email :) [07:45] sry for running out so quickly on ya before [07:46] np [07:46] I've been bouncing in and out of IRC for two days [07:46] can't tell if it's my netbook, my bnc, or what [07:46] i need to ssh into my server at home yet somethign still seems to be blocked at the firewall level [07:47] granted my domain is whitelisted i still cant access it :( [07:47] valorie: im in the process of migrating my business from my server at home to a virtual server in the cloud where im working part time right now [07:48] gonna setup a znc on my vps when i can get access to it from here at school lol [07:48] I guess there is screen+irssi [07:49] but I'm not quite geeky enough for that [07:49] me neither [07:49] im hooked on kvirc [07:49] don't know what that one is -- is it lightweight? [07:50] konvi seems a bit heavy for the netbook [07:50] ya its rather light weight [07:50] im impressed with the performace on my eee pc [07:51] then again i usually compile from svn source [07:52] hi there, i see that in ubuntu, when i'm in the terminal and i try push Git changes, Gnome pops up with a graphical password dialog and then, once entered, never asks me again. In KDE though (in konsole) it asks me for a password every time (and does not do it graphically). Is there any way to configure it to work like Ubuntu does? thanks? [07:53] zoggy: O_O are you talking about the wallet? or somethign else [07:53] it could be as well the way the the git repository is configured im not 100% sure [07:55] eagles0513875_: i guess it could be a process of having konsole integrate with the wallet [08:02] eagles0513875: FYI you've pointed me in the right direction - i think "SSH Askpass" might be what I'm looking for [08:04] eagles0513875: yeeaah - it's working, thanks again, your question helped me clarify what to google for === mirco__ is now known as mirco [08:23] hey valorie im back [08:23] valorie: can i pm you something a bit off topic [08:23] yes, I was asking there..... [08:44] hi everybody, can somebody help me with xhosts? I am trying to make the xhost change permanent, however I do not know how to do it, does anybody have any idea how to do this? [08:45] I run xhost + and it works fine, but on relogin or restart, the config is lost [09:29] hey guys has anyone worked with dropbox on linux before? === root is now known as Guest71835 [10:33] Does anybody know how to fix audio problems in kubuntu? [10:33] (I have no audio) [10:35] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting [10:46] ty susundberg [10:51] can anyoen tell me about how much space to install kubuntu desktop on top of a regular 10.10 install? [10:52] Dekk-lappie: this is pure speculation, but less than 500 MiB [10:52] really? [10:52] is it in synaptic? [10:52] or do i need a ppa? [10:53] Dekk-lappie: kubuntu-desktop metapackage is in ubuntu repositories [10:53] Dekk-lappie: Kubuntu is Ubuntu (: [10:53] koo [10:53] just checkin [10:53] havent run kde for a long time.. but it seems to be the future with all this gnove vs ubuntu stuff [10:54] oh btw..819 meg [11:38] hi. can it be that kde 4.6.1 is broken? i have nepomuk crashes and kwallet problems on login, using two different computers [12:04] hello,I just want to ask what's the advantage of kde compared with gnome,because I have to make a choice between ubuntu and kubuntu. [12:06] <_Sophia_> o.o [12:15] twn39: it's hard to make generalisations, mostly they are two projects trying to achieve the same thing, try both and decide which one you prefer [12:15] twn39: KDE uses Qt which is a better development framework [12:19] That's ok ,now I'm trying kubuntu. [12:19] twn39: KDE has a very helpful and fun community, so consider that too [12:19] twn39: they are very helpful and guide newcomers in the right direction almost always... [12:34] can anyone please help me with this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1707356 [12:37] c2tarun: the auto eth0 is the default name for any dsl lan wire connection that you connect to your laptop [12:38] can i remove phonon without removing the whole kde desktop? [12:41] c2tarun: your dsl connection should work fine when you simply connect it with your laptop, you didn't delete the auto etho connection did you ? [12:46] c2tarun: what does your ipconfig say ? [12:46] c2tarun: go to terminal and type ipconfig [12:47] then paste the output from that command at dpaste.com, and give us the dpaste link here [12:49] kps_foo, there is no command name ipconfig, do you want the o/p of ifconfig? [12:49] ok..another question.. i can connect wirless with gnome.. nut under kde... shows connectrion.. but i get nada..any takers? [12:50] Dekk-lappy, did you install kde in ubuntu? [12:50] yep [12:50] Dekk-lappy, are you able to connect your kde with wired connection? [12:50] installed kubuntu desktop [12:50] havent tried.. im at work.. :) [12:51] Dekk-lappy, I faced the same problem, I think you'll be able to connect with wired connection, if yes than go to additional drivers and remove the wifi driver and install it again, it will work. [12:52] c2tarun: yeah, sorry for the mistake [12:53] c2tarun: got the command mixed up with a DOS based command [12:53] c2tarun: try ifconfig [12:54] kps_foo, right now I am using ubuntu, the main problem is I am not getting my DSL connection name there and kubuntu is automatically connecting with auto eth0 + in ubuntu I am able to see auto-eth0 option under wired tab, so I removed connect-automatically option from it, but in kubuntu auto-eth0 is also not gettin displlayed [12:55] Dekk-lappy, If you really like KDE try installing a fresh copy of kubuntu (it feels better than using KDE only :)) [12:56] c2tarun: I agree about that [12:56] c2tarun: by default it doesn't get the connection name, auto eth0 is your wired dsl connection...you can always rename it from the network manager [12:58] kps_foo, that is the prob, I created the DSL connection from n/w manager, but when I apply the changes and come out and click the icon I am able to see only one connection that is Auto-eth0 normally it displays all the connections and the connection being use now is displayed in bold letters. [12:59] c2tarun: try restartin your network manager, by pressing the wifi key(F2) if you are on a laptop [13:00] kps_foo, are you sure by turning of wifi and turning it on will restart n/w manager? because my wifi is turned of right now. [13:00] c2tarun: it doesn't restart the network manager, but it might solve your problem [13:00] kps_foo, ok, I'll log into kubuntu and i'll try it :) thanks [13:02] c2tarun: ok === twn39 is now known as tangweinan === mren|off is now known as mren [13:17] c2 can i install the kde wirless driver from within gnome? [13:17] i dont have an ethernet cable here [13:18] Dekk-lappy: yeah you can, just go to Systemprefrences and then click on additional device drivers === abaco is now known as asdfgh [13:18] Dekk-lappy: oh you said no ethernet ? sorry my bad, you need wired internet [13:19] hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [13:20] how can i put the adobe flashplr in my fresh sew kubuntu? [13:20] new* [13:21] asdfgh: you want it in firefox ? [13:21] my kubunt does now downloasd firefox [13:21] problems in repos [13:21] =( [13:22] i dont use linux since slack 7, (99) [13:23] asdfgh: where does it fail? for flash you need to install flashplugin-installer [13:23] 1 min, i ll see [13:26] kps_foo, ping, its not working :( [13:26] when i put my passwrd [13:26] yeah c2tarun im not sure about kde4 yet.. so unless i can get it all sorted.. i may have to stick with just having the desktop for kde [13:27] he fails [13:27] anyway..back to work [13:27] now linux has a pretty lookng face, in my time.... holly s#1t [13:27] Dekk-lappy, well I never said to switch to kubuntu :) I just said install one more OS kubuntu [13:29] c2tarun: finally, try this, this might help, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1239964 [13:30] hallo [13:31] hello pretty/handsome young and rich in knowledge about kubuntu... could you help a greyhair man with his old print server? [13:36] Hiyas [13:37] <_Sophia_> hallo ;d [13:39] hi _Sophia_ how goes the install ? [13:40] <_Sophia_> i did the chkdisk /f thing a bit ago [13:40] <_Sophia_> didn't see what it said though, was in the other room [13:40] <_Sophia_> (i slept 15 hours lol) [13:43] kps_foo, I tried what was on the thread :( it didn't work. Installing network manager again is not possible because there is no internet on kubuntu :( [13:45] _Sophia_, have you backed up your data , so in case of an accidental erasure (extremely unlikely) of your windows partition, then you haven't lost anything [13:45] <_Sophia_> uh [13:45] <_Sophia_> i don't have anything to back my data up on :) [13:45] c2tarun: I don't know what more to do, the forums are your best help now, or maybe someone else here might answer you [13:45] what have you done Sophia? [13:46] kps_foo, yup looking forward to forum :( many people faced this prob http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470894 [13:46] c2tarun: best of luck [13:47] ok have one question, to develop free software, what is the program coding usually? C? Python? etc [13:48] c2tarun, ethernet or wifi ? [13:48] BluesKaj, ethernet [13:48] cadam92: you can use any language it doesnt matter [13:48] cadam92: though python is easy to learn for beginners [13:48] <_Sophia_> cadam92: people usually shy away from .net languages >.> [13:49] c2tarun, chave you run ifconfig , if not pastebin the outputpls [13:50] so Python is easiest to learn for GNU/Linux Kernel, kk sorry just beginning. Spent years being an Animator, Web Designer and Graphic Designer [13:50] BluesKaj, I am ubuntu right now, I have to reboot and log back to kubuntu but that DSL connection is working fine in my ubuntu I am facing the exact problem as mentioned in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470894 can you please take look [13:50] cadam92, what languages do you know? [13:51] none thats helpful for proper programming however i learnt C years ago :P [13:51] <_Sophia_> cadam92, before starting with python, you should read the Zen of Python and see if you agree with it philosophically [13:51] * c2tarun opinions may vary, I know C and C++ and tried to learn python, I found python bit difficult as compared to C and C++ :( [13:52] BluesKaj, looked at that thread> [13:52] ? [13:52] lol Sophia [13:52] but she's left [13:53] also learn to do different commands for linux, anyway Im out. midnight here. [13:53] c2tarun: I'm intrigued - you found python difficult? compared to c++? I'm intrigued. What did you find difficult? [13:54] PhilRod_, missed main :)\ [13:54] c2tarun, I recommend using the /etc/network/interfaces file to run your connection , without knetworkmanager in the mix , http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/ , this was recommended to me by several knowledgable ppl and it works perfectly on gnome and kde . [13:55] c2tarun: heh :-) [13:56] Hello. I am having problem installing nvidia driver. [13:56] sudo sh drivername.run doesnt work [13:56] How can I kill x ? [13:56] oliver__, ./drivername.run in the terminal [13:57] "No sush file or directory" [13:57] But how can I come in to this terminal window, that takes whole screen? [13:57] I remember on ubuntu it were something with alt and f4 or something [13:58] oliver__, did you try the recommended nvidia driver in ,kmenu/applications/system/additional drivers ? [13:58] It doesnt find any [13:58] In ubuntu it always found [13:59] oliver__, you have to cd to dir where the driver is located first [13:59] I have [13:59] cd Desktop [13:59] oliver__, move the driver /home/user [13:59] to [14:00] Ok [14:02] but oliver__ I have repeat this question : did you try the recommended nvidia driver in ,kmenu/applications/system/additional drivers ? [14:02] have to [14:02] Yes [14:02] It doesnt show anything [14:03] But this method works in ubuntu, kill x and install in this fullscreen terminal [14:03] How can I enter fullscreen terminal where x is killed? [14:07] oliver__, follow this tutorial , http://pastebin.com/bseRSx1M [14:08] ok, thanks I will try that [14:08] <_Sophia_> ohai [14:09] hi, is there a way that I can synchronize KDE calendar and KOrganizer calendar , so a TODO will appear like we can see holidays in KDE calendar === pablo is now known as Pablito [14:20] <_Sophia_> hey people o.o [14:20] hello [14:20] <_Sophia_> i did all the stuff from yesterday just a sec ago, and installed parititon manager and unmounted sda1 and then freed up space, can i just go through installation process now, or w hat? ;o [14:22] I wasn't here yesterday :) [14:27] vmware or vbox for a windows xp install??? I need it for use with internet [14:28] <_Sophia_> applying the partition is taking forever o.o [14:28] I use vbox and had no issues [14:28] kalg: straight from the repos? [14:29] got the repo from virtualbox site [14:29] vbox=virtualbox right? [14:29] right [14:30] no wonder I couldn't find it, always was called vbox before, I think [14:31] oh.. here is the link http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads [14:32] kalg: thanks, I'm downloading it from the repos. [14:32] nice. [14:35] shane4ubuntu: vitrualbox from the reops works fine for mostthings... think its has issues with either usb devices or virtual folders... [14:36] actually added the virtualbox repo, and getting the 4.0 version now [14:51] Hello, I tried what you sent me. And it installed something [14:51] How can I check what driover I have installed? [14:52] But now to my second problem, my wireless doesnt work. Or it finds my internett, but when I am connecting it only [14:52] says "configuring interface" [14:52] and never connects [15:00] Hello, can anyone help me with my wireless problem? [15:01] I just have to ask: How do you just select a single file in dolphin/konq/ark without opening it? [15:01] oliver__: what's the problem? [15:01] Ohh I just read, that it might have something to do with that my wireless is wep protected? [15:02] Its stuck on "configuring interface" and Im 100% the password is right [15:02] afief: u can use ctrl key while clikcing on it. or change the behavior of dolphin to use double click to open files [15:03] kalg: I actually like the single click to open, but until now always box-selected when I wanted a single file [15:03] is there a mouse only way? [15:03] oliver__: try without wep, sometimes it helps(depending on your card) [15:04] Problem is that in that case I need to change to wpa [15:04] Since we got so many neightboars [15:04] afief: in dolphin menu settings --> configure Dolphin [15:05] go to navigation and select "Double click to open files" radio button [15:05] kalg: thanks :-) I've been looking for this in the System Settings but couldn't find it [15:08] afief: you are welcome [15:10] So I should try wpa [15:11] Or is it no other method to fix this? [15:12] oliver__: you are trying to connect to a wireless AP which you know the password right [15:12] Yes [15:12] oliver__: personally I'd try wpa first, if that fails try to connect to an unencrypted network(mac address protected?). You might want to read up on bugs specific your wifi card [15:12] The password is 100% right, that is not the problem [15:12] well, I've never had problems with the wifi card. Only with kubuntu, not with win7, vista, ubuntu or linux mint [15:13] Hmm, my family is also using network. So i wont switch until I have tried everything else [15:13] I red about Wicd [15:14] oliver__, have you set up the router to use wpa encryption and and password , then the network manager will connect if both match [15:14] No, the router is still using WEP [15:14] I havent changed [15:14] yet [15:15] don't change it , try wicd first, oliver__ [15:15] oliver__: WEP is unsecure in that it can be cracked in under 1 hour using Aircrack, do not use it, use WPA or WPA2 [15:15] I will change, but I cannot do it right now. [15:15] oliver__: not right now [15:15] So I will try wicd first [15:15] oliver__: ofcourse [15:15] oliver__: did you make sure that you picked the right "password type"? perhaps it's ascii while you're typing hex? [15:15] No [15:16] Not ascii or hex [15:16] I am shure its right [15:16] oliver__: I had a similar problem in Ubuntu 10. [15:16] kps_foo, yeah fine but what about access of the other pcs on hisa network [15:16] "Passphrare (for 128 bit) is right? [15:16] oliver__: depends on your password settings in the router [15:17] well, thats the only 2 alternatives. Passphrases and ascii === sre-su_ is now known as sre-su [15:17] oliver__: so try ascii, might be that this is what your router defaults to [15:18] BluesKaj: I think it would be better that he switched his entire network to WPA later on, but for now he can try and make WEP work, that is what he seems to be doing, so I need to shut up :) [15:18] Hmm, I can't figure how to install wicd [15:18] oliver__: I had a very similar problem in Ubuntu 10.04, I updated and the problem was gone [15:18] kps_foo, exactly ..his immediate prob needs solving first [15:19] oliver__: I used a wired connection to update my Ubuntu and later on this nasty problem was fixed [15:20] kps_foo, , don't shut up , we need help here , and my wifi experience is has been good , so solving a wifi problem is beneficial to my experience. [15:20] BluesKaj: ok [15:21] BluesKaj: oliver__: I am ready to help [15:22] oliver__,open a terminal , sudo apt-get install wicd , it will disable knetworkmanager once you install it [15:22] how do I fix the brightness buttons to work properly? The key combos work, but the scale goes all over the place. it goes from dark, to light, then to dark, then to sorta dim, but never really bright [15:24] assuming he's on an ethernet connection:) [15:24] oops [15:28] anyone? [15:29] Alonea: Hello! [15:30] <_Sophia_> hey dask? it's been moving partition for about 70 min, and it's been at 16% the whole time o.o [15:30] hi _Sophia_ [15:30] <_Sophia_> hai [15:31] Did it detect Vista? [15:31] <_Sophia_> i figured out the steps from yesterday on my own [15:31] <_Sophia_> after doing the chkdsk /f t hing [15:31] Daskreech: omg hey! now why is brightness all screwy on this thing. the scale is completely messed up. [15:31] _Sophia_: I was on except for 3 hours I didn't see you :( [15:31] <_Sophia_> now i'm moving partition, but it's been stuck at 16% for an hour [15:31] _Sophia_: how big is the partition? [15:31] <_Sophia_> uh [15:32] <_Sophia_> 0.91 TiB :D [15:32] ^^ give a few more hours and see [15:32] <_Sophia_> LOL k :s [15:32] Alonea: ok let me see if I can track that down [15:33] Daskreech: I will happily rip out all the power management stuff if it fixes it. ^_^ [15:33] ha ha I know you will :) [15:38] _Sophia_: did it happily detect Vista? [15:39] <_Sophia_> i dunno Daskreech ;d [15:39] <_Sophia_> i assume :D [15:39] <_Sophia_> ^_^ [15:41] _Sophia_: Oh so what are you doing now? Not installing? [15:41] Daskreech: I am grabbing lunch. Will be back in a few. [15:41] Alonea: ok still looking at your thing [15:42] <_Sophia_> daskreech, i'm partitioning the HD ;o [15:42] How? [15:42] <_Sophia_> it's been at 16% for 75 minutes [15:42] <_Sophia_> with partitionmanager? [15:42] Oh! right that thing :) [15:42] haha :) [15:42] <_Sophia_> yeah [15:42] <_Sophia_> i remembered those steps from yesterday [15:42] Might not have been needed >_> [15:42] <_Sophia_> :/ [15:42] But good move in any case [15:42] <_Sophia_> whatever works [15:42] <_Sophia_> should it end up taking a few hours then? :S [15:43] yeah and probably safer given the history [15:43] For 1TB ? possibly 45 minutes or so I don't see that it should take that long [15:43] <_Sophia_> it's been almost double that ;o [15:44] <_Sophia_> Move partition ‘/dev/sda1’ to the right by 6.84 MiB and shrink it from 0.91 TiB to 351.57 GiB Job: Check file system on partition ‘/dev/sda1’ Command: ntfsresize -P -i -f -v /dev/sda1 ntfsresize v2.0.0 (libntfs 10:0:0) Device name : /dev/sda1 NTFS volume version: 3.1 Cluster size : 4096 bytes Current volume size: 1000200991232 bytes (1000201 MB) Current device size: 1000200994816 bytes (1000201 MB) Checking [15:44] I could be horribly mislead into thinking that the resizing is linear :) [15:45] _Sophia_, lots of data on the windows partition ? if so then it could take many hrs. [15:45] <_Sophia_> uh [15:45] <_Sophia_> probably 230 GB of data [15:46] all that data has to be moved when resizing [15:46] that's what takes so long [15:46] <_Sophia_> oh [15:46] _Sophia_: Windows is really messy with it's files [15:46] <_Sophia_> oh well [15:47] <_Sophia_> then i want to try to install the quake live plugin so i can play quake while waiting [15:47] to repeat so it's understood Windows is redonkeyulously messy with it's files [15:47] <_Sophia_> can i have help with that? >_> [15:48] _Sophia_: I would suggest not doing anything to stress your system (even alittle) while moving such large amount of data [15:48] <_Sophia_> :S [15:49] <_Sophia_> i'm on the comp a lot, i don't really have other stuff to do :P [15:49] <_Sophia_> already read a manga while waiting [15:49] * james147 knows that feeling :p [15:50] james147: why would quake live stress her system? [15:50] ^^ but its better to be patient then risk losing everything :) ...(its probably not a very high probability, but its also a high risk) [15:50] Hmm ok [15:51] Daskreech: anything that accesses the disk would be bad ^^ ... its already under allot of stress [15:51] james147: She's on a live CD [15:51] <_Sophia_> o.o [15:52] <_Sophia_> well to install the plugin i'd have to install chrome [15:52] <_Sophia_> sec lol [15:52] Daskreech: :) then probably more of a reason, ^^ You really shouldnt messaround with trying to set things up (its when things are mostlikly to break) when moving important data [15:53] <_Sophia_> o.o [15:53] <_Sophia_> quake is like a 13 year old game [15:53] <_Sophia_> isn't going to stress my comp much [15:53] <_Sophia_> lol [15:53] _Sophia_: how about Solitare? :-D [15:53] _Sophia_: if your on a live cd then the entire game (with the rest of the OS) wll be in ram ^^ [15:54] <_Sophia_> O_o [15:54] <_Sophia_> well i may as well try to run it ;x [15:54] <_Sophia_> and idk [15:54] <_Sophia_> i could play logic games onlinee [15:54] <_Sophia_> but i play a lot of quake so idk lol [15:54] _Sophia_: sudo apt-get install kpat [15:54] <_Sophia_> kpat = ? [15:54] Kpatience [15:55] You'll see when it's installed [15:55] _Sophia_: Espically when you dont know if it will run ^^ crashing your display driver will kill X and the shell your doing the copy in... a low probaibility but high risk again... [15:55] unless you prefer suduko ? [15:55] <_Sophia_> fine i won't play quake right now >_> [15:55] Sudoku [15:55] <_Sophia_> uh [15:55] <_Sophia_> well [15:55] <_Sophia_> i have an issue with the kpat install [15:55] <_Sophia_> see: [15:55] ok [15:55] _Sophia_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [15:55] _Sophia_: I really suggest not messing around while copying the data ^^ though I cant stop you :) [15:56] <_Sophia_> After this operation, 15.0MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? [15:56] <_Sophia_> should i hit Y [15:56] <_Sophia_> o_O? [15:56] Yes [15:57] <_Sophia_> wasn't sure since the HD is being messed with :p [15:57] <_Sophia_> ok [15:57] It's telling you that it will take more space than just that one package do you want to continue [15:57] <_Sophia_> ah [15:57] It gives you options and if you don't put in any options the big one will be chosen [15:57] so If you just hit enter it will choose Y [15:58] For the most part in questions like that anything except Y is the same as N [15:58] _Sophia_: just about all packagemanager will give you a list of packages it going to install (sometimes with teh space they will use) so you can make sure it not installing something you dont want [15:58] unless it has more options of course :) [15:58] <_Sophia_> ah [15:58] (assuming it going to install more then you asked it to) [15:58] <_Sophia_> i installed chrome btw [15:58] <_Sophia_> was pretty straightforward [15:58] ^^due to dependencies [15:59] <_Sophia_> but when i tried the quake plugin it was not [15:59] <_Sophia_> i'm assuming it's because rekonq isn't supported ;p [15:59] _Sophia_: it's also possible that someone can setup a repo somewhere that says it's installing X but always installs Y as well to do some BadThings®© [16:00] So the package manager tells you anytime something happens that you didn't ask for so you can be aware of what's going onto your computer [16:00] So unlike Windows :) [16:00] <_Sophia_> i see [16:00] <_Sophia_> well [16:00] _Sophia_: I'll look at the quake plugin in a little bit [16:00] <_Sophia_> windows is like in the middle, macs give you no option, windows hides what it's installing, and linux atomizes stuffs [16:00] <_Sophia_> and sure, no hurry [16:00] <_Sophia_> just need something to do :p [16:01] Kpat is installed? [16:01] <_Sophia_> yes, looking at it now [16:01] <_Sophia_> not a big fan of cards [16:01] _Sophia_: what are you a fan of? [16:01] <_Sophia_> chess is cool though, maybe i'll play lichess online [16:01] <_Sophia_> logic puzzles, books, music [16:01] Ah there are chess games :) [16:01] <_Sophia_> i was state chess champ for intermediate class at 16 y.o. ;o [16:02] <_Sophia_> oh wow [16:02] <_Sophia_> partition completion percentage went from 16 to 66% :D [16:03] Daskreech: back [16:04] Alonea: and forth [16:04] _Sophia_: Whoooooooooooooooooooo :) [16:05] Daskreech: any good news or am I doomed to never have a completely working linux system (or is that blasphemy) [16:05] Alonea: Seems others have the problem as well. Trying to find out if there is a workaround [16:07] Daskreech: of course others have it. ^_^ [16:07] Daskreech: at least my wifi mostly works. I have an issue, but its on every distro AND on my android phone [16:07] Alonea: Misery loves company :) [16:07] Alonea: Broadcom? [16:08] Daskreech: actually, not sure [16:08]