[02:58] <Rak> hello down lubuntu have older revison downloads?
[02:58] <Rak> does*
[03:41] <jmarsden> Rak: Older revisions of all Ubuntu/Lubuntu packages are still in the repositories, you can downgrade packages with apt-get just as in all of the Ubuntu family.  Is that what you mean?  If not, what are you looking for?
[03:42] <Unit193> Rak: I "think" 10.04 was the first stable Lubuntu
[03:43] <Rak> o
[03:43] <Rak> was just wondering
[03:43] <Rak> I got a older computer it has 128 mb =P
[03:44] <Unit193> CPU? I would say lubuntu is more lightweight
[03:45] <Rak> Pen III coppermine
[03:45] <Unit193> Rak: From the wiki "A Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MiB of RAM is probably a bottom-line configuration that may yield slow yet usable system with Lubuntu"
[03:46] <Rak> yup
[03:46] <jmarsden> Unit193: There was an lubuntu-meta pacakge (and therefore an lubuntu-desktop package) in Karmic 9.10, according to rmadison
[03:48] <juanantonio> Hello. From my experience, I can say I have a PIII 800 Mhz with 256 Mb RAM (4 Mb Video shared), and everything is ok, not too fast, but usable with IM, mail, even aMule and Transmission
[03:48] <juanantonio> and I have 10.10
[03:48] <juanantonio> this is what I am using now, by the way
[03:49] <Unit193> jmarsden: You're correct http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/lubuntu-desktop
[03:50] <jmarsden> Unit193: Right;  I did   rmadison lubuntu-desktop    instead -- same kind of info just a command line interface to it :)
[03:51] <juanantonio> The only question I have is that I do not know if it's possible to logout and relog in with the same programs I had, as KDE or Gnome do. Is that possible in LXDE?
[03:53] <jmarsden> juanantonio: I am not sure; I know there was a bug requesting .xsession support, which would probably be one way to get that effect.
[03:54] <juanantonio> A bug or a bot?
[03:54] <jmarsden> bug #530503
[03:55] <jmarsden> That bug report mentions a workaround : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxdm/+bug/530503/comments/5   # which might work for you
[03:56] <juanantonio> Ok, I am pasting in Chromium to see what tells to me, thanks a lot
[03:57] <jmarsden> juanantonio: You're welcome.
[03:57] <jmarsden> juanantonio: BTW you should be able to right click on the link (in xchat) and click on "Open Link in Browser" -- no need to cut and paste for that.
[03:59] <juanantonio> Yes, that is what I have done, it's wonderful
[04:00] <juanantonio> but I got a problem: I don't know what to do with the link
[04:00] <juanantonio> I have read through it
[04:00] <juanantonio> and i don't understand
[04:02] <juanantonio> Let me have a look at my directories and files
[04:05] <juanantonio> Uhuh
[04:05] <juanantonio> but if I install this, will I lose my current configuration?
[04:10] <juanantonio> Ok, I will try tomorrow. Thanks and good night
[05:09] <mndrll> HI
[05:09] <mndrll> hey i just install Lubuntu 10.10 on my hp notebook
[05:10] <mndrll> does anyone knows how i can hotkeys for openning the terminal
[05:10] <mndrll> and other stuffs??
[05:12] <jmarsden> mndrll: See http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions#How_do_I_change_the_hotkeys.3F
[05:14] <mndrll> jmarsden, thanks!
[05:15] <jmarsden> mndrll: You're welcome.  BTW, all I did was use Google to look for it :)
[05:15] <mndrll> jmarsden, lol
[07:28] <bobycake> Hello
[09:45] <StamEhad> Hi!I'm trying to boot an ole PIII laptop with the Lubuntu 10.10 liveCD but it hangs in the screen with the ubuntu 10.10 and 4 dots.
[10:45] <fade_> hi there
[10:46] <fade_> im interested if someone has a solution to screen locking after suspend, on resume it just comes back to the desktop, does not ask for password
[10:51] <leszek> hi
[10:54] <Guest51561> I just set up a dual boot of XP and lubuntu 10.10. Everything was going fine, I was just wrestling with enabling wireless on ubuntu a little bit. After updating packages I restarted, and winxp no longer shows in grub. Just lubuntu twice, twice recovery, and two memtests. How can I return XP to the grub menu, or do I have something else wrong?
[10:56] <leszek> AndrewRSM: install os-prober and run it from Lubuntus LxTerminal with root rights
[10:56] <AndrewRSM> leszek, Thank you for the response, doing this.
[10:59] <AndrewRSM> sudo os-prober
[10:59] <AndrewRSM> /dev/sda1:Microsoft Windows XP Professional:Windows:chain
[10:59] <AndrewRSM> Does that look good leszek?
[11:00] <leszek> yep it does
[11:00] <leszek> AndrewRSM: I think you need to execute now: sudo update-grub2
[11:00] <leszek> or sudo update-grub
[11:00] <leszek> which should update grubs menu
[11:02] <AndrewRSM> I ran both of those. The two versions of linux, new followed by backup kernel (if I'm correct), memtest, and the windows install were listed.
[11:02] <AndrewRSM> Will this be a common occurance following Linux kernel updates?
[11:03] <leszek> yes unless you remove the old kernels. But be aware to test the newly installed kernel if its running ok for you before deleting the older ones
[11:03] <AndrewRSM> ..?
[11:03] <AndrewRSM> I just received a partial message with no name in front of it.
[11:03] <AndrewRSM> "the newly installed kernel if its running ok for you before deleting the older ones"
[11:05] <AndrewRSM> Hm, the rest of your message appeared. I guess it was an issue with my xchat.
[11:05] <leszek> :)
[11:05] <AndrewRSM> Do I need to delete old kernels?
[11:05] <AndrewRSM> Or can I safely never manually delete old kernels indefinitely?
[11:06] <leszek> You don't need to remove them
[11:06] <leszek> but they will be useless if you don't use them and take up space
[11:07] <AndrewRSM> So perhaps once I have a third, I should use the google and figure out how to remove the oldest one safely?
[11:10] <leszek> you can remove them with synaptic, just like normally removing an application
[11:10] <AndrewRSM> Ah ok.
[11:10] <leszek> but make sure to remove the right kernel, with the right version number ;)
[11:10] <AndrewRSM> ^_^
[11:10] <fade_> im interested if someone has a solution to screen locking after suspend, on resume it just comes back to the desktop, does not ask for password
[11:11] <AndrewRSM> Thanks again leszek.
[11:11] <leszek> fade_: I guess xscreensavers settings might have an option for locking the screen before suspending
[11:12] <leszek> AndrewRSM: no problem ;)
[11:12] <fade_> unfortunatelly it does not, and i searched for 2 hours for a solution, does not exist
[11:12] <fade_> i tried using gnome screensaver for this, but its not really working the way i would like to
[11:13] <fade_> i was thinking of finding the script that prepares it for suspend and insert xautolock there to force screen lock before going to suspend, so when it wakes up, should be locked
[11:22] <fade_> leszek did you make a youtube video for user llectro... ?
[11:22] <leszek> llelectronics is actually my account ;)
[11:23] <fade_> just watching it, can you tell me is locking of the screen work for you when using suspend option ?
[15:10] <leszek> re
[16:50] <kosaidpo|> hello guys
[16:51] <kosaidpo|> i have modem 3g and iwanna change my provider dns cus its been 3 days or more icant visit many sites anynoe can help ?
[17:57] <Newk> hi.. after reboot my 2 keys are not listening again ...arg!
[18:26] <Newk> its either in X or in LXDE (or is that the same?) anyone know how i can narrow it down?
[18:33] <Newk> brb. gonna try reboot after this dpkg-reconfigure
[18:44] <Newk> still not working
[18:50] <pakau> hello
[18:50] <pakau> people
[18:50] <pakau> any one online ?
[18:52] <bioterror> maybe
[18:52] <pakau> i have a some problems.. i just installed lubuntu.. and addicional drivers doesnt open.. update manager doesnt open..  it does not recognize my CD drives and it doenst include software center.. is this normal ?
[18:52] <bioterror> hmmmm
[18:53] <bioterror> software center missing is normal ;)
[18:53] <pakau> hmm ok
[18:53] <bioterror> pakau, what if you say in terminal "sudo update-manager"
[18:53] <pakau> let me try
[18:54] <bioterror> Newk, I didnt get your problem
[18:54] <pakau> import site' failed; use -v for traceback
[18:54] <pakau> Traceback (most recent call last):
[18:54] <pakau>   File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 26, in <module>
[18:54] <pakau>     import pygtk
[18:54] <pakau> ImportError: No module named pygtk
[18:54] <bioterror> pakau, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends
[18:55] <pakau> nothing changed
[18:55] <bioterror> did it say it's already installed?
[18:55] <pakau> 0 pakage updated 0 removed  0 installed
[18:55] <pakau> yes
[18:55] <pakau> it does
[18:55] <bioterror> okay
[18:56] <pakau> but shit this is fast
[18:56] <pakau> lubuntu is really fast
[18:57] <bioterror> hmmm
[18:57] <bioterror> just a moment
[18:57] <bioterror> I'm checking packages
[18:57] <pakau> tks *
[19:08] <bioterror> mohimon
[19:10] <bioterror> pakau, seems like solution is fun :D
[19:10] <pakau> lol what is the solution ? :P
[19:10] <bioterror> http://community.livejournal.com/ubuntu_users/411194.html?thread=2896442#t2896442
[19:11] <bioterror> I dunno if that works
[19:12] <bioterror> my wife doesnt have any python files under /usr/local/bin/
[19:12] <bioterror> do you have?
[19:12] <pakau> nops
[19:12] <pakau> neither :S
[19:12] <bioterror> hmmm
[19:12] <bioterror> :D
[19:13] <pakau> =)
[19:13] <pakau> it is possible t change to xubuntu ?
[19:13] <bioterror> ofcourse
[19:13] <bioterror> but that's not really lubuntu related problem
[19:14] <bioterror> you have a fresh installation?
[19:14] <pakau> yes
[19:15] <pakau> i made a fresh instalation
[19:15] <pakau> the update manager
[19:15] <pakau> opened the 1st time
[19:15] <pakau> it made some updates
[19:15] <bioterror> hmmm
[19:15] <pakau> and then restart.. after that... puff no more updage manager
[19:15] <bioterror> could yo reinstall?
[19:15] <bioterror> you
[19:15] <pakau> yes
[19:15] <bioterror> it takes ~25mins
[19:15] <Newk> bioterror: i have two keys that fail to work inside LXDE. its the Delete and DownArrow keys.
[19:15] <pakau> actually its the only cd i have here
[19:15] <bioterror> :)
[19:15] <bioterror> pakau, is it 10.10 or 10.04?
[19:16] <Newk> 10.10 ahs still some problems with hardware acceleration
[19:16] <Newk> has
[19:16] <Newk> on older graphic cards
[19:17] <bioterror> Newk, every linux has probs with older graphics card with 3D :D
[19:17] <bioterror> and with newer too :----)
[19:17] <pakau> 10.10
[19:17] <Newk> nope.. its working perfectly on 10.04
[19:17] <pakau> hm ok
[19:17] <pakau> maybe its because of  10
[19:17] <bioterror> pakau, could be that python or something to updated and it went wrong
[19:17] <pakau> 10.10
[19:18] <bioterror> 10.10 works just fine
[19:18] <pakau> hmm ok
[19:18] <Newk> why on 11.04 already then? :p
[19:18] <pakau> what about apt-get-install xubuntu-desktop ?
[19:18] <pakau> can i do it ?
[19:18] <bioterror> pakau, why not
[19:19] <pakau> ok
[19:19] <pakau> i can try
[19:19] <Newk> lubuntu-desktop.. no?
[19:19] <pakau> haaa
[19:19] <pakau> yes
[19:19] <pakau> lol
[19:19] <pakau> it will fix ?
[19:20] <Newk> could be
[19:20] <bioterror> I think not
[19:21] <pakau> ok i go for xubuntu then
[19:21] <pakau> lets see if it works
[19:21] <pakau> i just dont go for ubuntu cause its to heavy for this pc
[19:22] <Newk> its a big monster :)
[19:22] <pakau> yesss
[19:22] <pakau> only works good on my quad core 4ram
[19:22] <Newk> oops
[19:25] <pakau> hope it doesnt uninstall my chromium tho
[19:25] <Newk> bioterror.. do you know how to configure keyboard in lxde?
[19:25] <pakau> i like chromium
[19:26] <Newk> pakau: you can just install it afterwards again.. just ignore when it says it uninstall lubuntu/xubuntu desktop.. its just the metapackage not clean anymore
[19:27] <bioterror> Newk, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[19:27] <Newk> bioterror: i'll try that
[19:29] <Newk> bioterror: i already did that and it didnt do the trick
[19:29] <bioterror> does it work in tty?
[19:30] <Newk> yes
[19:30] <Newk> so its something in X11 or something
[19:31] <Newk> (that sounds funny)
[19:31] <Newk> (no i am not stoned)
[19:40] <Newk> too bad my keyboard model is not listed in xkeycaps
[19:41] <bioterror> use generic pc105 or something like that
[19:42] <Newk> ok
[19:42] <Newk> its a bit diffrent this one though
[19:46] <Newk> the proper keys dont light up when i hit them... xkeycaps seems old.. too bad lxkeymap isnt in 10.04 repo
[19:58]  * Newk tries to install lxkeymap anyway
[20:00] <pakau> ppl he is asking me
[20:00] <pakau> wich type of screen managment i want
[20:00] <pakau> GDM  or LXDM
[20:02] <pakau> wich one should i pik ?
[21:03] <bonny> i need to play wormux on network how do i do it
[21:12] <szczur> bonny, i would recommend going to #wormux
[21:13] <szczur> and if you're running version 11.01 of warmux which is the latest
[21:13] <szczur> then you can go to network play in teh main menu
[21:14] <szczur> you should see two servers there
[21:14] <szczur> conect to any of it, and wait for players :)
[21:14] <szczur> bonny, for latest version use ppa
[21:14] <szczur> http://www.wormux.org/phpboost/wiki/install-warmux
[21:21] <Julz2k> hello
[21:23] <szczur> hi
[21:24] <Julz2k> I have a problem with my Lubuntu. I installed lubuntu 10.4 from my USB stick to my external drive, the installation went awesome trough, but on the startup i got the mesage "verifying dmi pool data" I checked the bios and all setings are optimal I can even run a live cd from my external drive and not only from my usb stick. Anny suggestions?
[21:38] <Yorvyk> Julz2k,  nothing to worry about, it's just telling you what it's doing.
[21:40] <Julz2k> the system could boot? It's a very low system via 500mhz but with 1GB ram
[21:41] <Unit193> Julz2k: 500MHz will boot it
[21:49] <Yorvyk> Julz2k, is the system not booting?
[21:53] <Julz2k> it's not booting :(
[22:00] <Unit193> Julz2k: And you said your BIOS supports booting from USB? Did you check to see it it's set to boot from your external? (for some, you have to set it to boot from the USB drive that's in there)
[22:02] <Julz2k> yes I could boot it the last times with a live cd stored on the external hdd, but i couldn't install the system on the drive because i don't had another USB medium or the chance to install via dvdrom
[22:05] <Julz2k> I think the mbr could be broken I will test a reinstall tomorrow
[22:29] <aetherian> 'ello
[22:30] <aetherian> lovin' the l'untu
[22:35] <Cygnia> Greetings, after fresh install of Lubuntu (from iso, not from ubuntu regular) I cannot join any wireless networks; not even from "Join Hidden Wireless Network" Dialog just briefly pops up but disappears.
[22:37] <Cygnia> The other problem I noticed is that Main Menu is totally blank, no programs or prefs or anything at all. Again, this is after totally fresh install.
[22:42] <Newk> i think they'll like to know what version lubuntu
[22:44] <aetherian> have you considered reinstalling it?
[22:48] <aetherian> um
[22:49] <aetherian> is there perchance a command(s) to upgrade java from 20 to 24 or 26 or whatever the latest update is?
[22:49] <aetherian> so help me god I can not get this thing to install
[22:53] <Cygnia> Hi, sorry, it's the latest stable 10.10 Lubuntu. I didn't try reinstalling, maybe I'll try that. Thanks.
[22:53] <aetherian> um
[22:53] <aetherian> no problem?
[23:03] <aetherian> or even a program, or a setting within it, that does it...
[23:11] <Newk> hmm doesnt look like lxkeymap is fully working.. i thought i saw a graphical layout in the screenshots
[23:11] <Newk> like this: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PUPjYNFVMoc/TInxObl81fI/AAAAAAAAFuk/7BHIyTHTqmI/s1600/lxkeymap.png
[23:12] <Unit193> aetherian: Please run this from lxterminal "java -version"
[23:13] <Newk> i downloaded lxkeymap_0.3~ppa3_all.deb in the hopes i could comfortably configure my keymap to restore those 2 "deaf" keys
[23:17] <Newk> evtest seems to report them fine
[23:19] <Newk> i just dont know where to look anymore
[23:22] <mark76> ♪
[23:24] <Newk> :P
[23:24] <mark76> :D
[23:24] <Unit193> ♫
[23:31] <mark76> I only have the one :-(
[23:32] <Unit193> Couldn't help it :)
[23:34] <Newk> xmodmap? xkb?
[23:34] <mark76> Xchat character chart
[23:37] <vicentebruno> hello people
[23:37] <vicentebruno> i have a problem
[23:37] <Newk> no i meant where to configure the keyboard layout
[23:37] <vicentebruno> :*
[23:37] <Newk> me too
[23:38] <vicentebruno> people my lubuntu is not detecting my usb pen drive :( what coud it be ?
[23:38] <mark76> xkb, probably Newk
[23:39] <Newk> mark76: ah ok.. i'll google it up
[23:39] <Newk> mark76: thanks!
[23:39] <vicentebruno> can any one help me plz ? :)
[23:39] <vicentebruno> i have a problem
[23:40] <aetherian> Unit193: sorry I wasn't here, but would you like me to pastebin it, or just say the version
[23:41] <Unit193> Runtime is the line I'm looking for
[23:42] <aetherian> um, you mean this? "penJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1)"
[23:42] <aetherian> missing an O at the beginning...
[23:42] <Unit193> You're not using Sun Java
[23:42] <aetherian> figures.
[23:43] <aetherian> not that I could figure out how to install the sun java, but oh well
[23:44] <Unit193> aetherian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#Java%20applications%20doesnt%20work,%20I%20want%20propietary%20Java.
[23:44] <vicentebruno> people can any one help me ? .. i incerted a usb pen drive but lubuntu doesnt detect it..... i have incerted the command    sudo lsmod | grep usb       and it does show 1 tho..    any one knows what could it be ???
[23:46] <aetherian> running those things.
[23:47] <aetherian> mmk, I'll test it at the java page
[23:48] <aetherian> :D
[23:48] <aetherian> <3
[23:48] <aetherian> if only I had that before
[23:48] <aetherian> only wasted 3-4+ hours the past couple of days failing at it
[23:56] <jef91> Anyone know what it takes to get pcmanfm to display "Applications" properly
[23:56] <jef91> ?
[23:56] <jef91> Its not showing anything on one of my systems
[23:57] <jef91> works fine on the other