[13:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:26] <dscassel> Morning, BluesKaj :)
[14:27]  * genii-around makes a fresh, large pot of coffee and thinks about cupcake decorations
[14:31]  * staticsafe prefers tea
[14:31] <staticsafe> and hey dca
[14:31] <staticsafe> and hey dscassel
[14:39] <BluesKaj> 'Morning, dscassel , genii-around, staticsafe
[14:39] <dscassel> Tea.  Good idea.
[14:39] <dscassel> Morning, staticsafe :)
[14:40] <staticsafe> morning
[14:41] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Mornin' :) I'm happier today now that the weather is decent.
[14:41] <staticsafe> hey, any of you guys in Toronto?
[14:41] <genii-around> I am
[14:42] <staticsafe> it would be cool if we had a Ubuntu event in Toronto, genii-around
[14:43] <genii-around> staticsafe: I'm holding a release party for Natty
[14:43] <genii-around> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/781/detail/
[14:44] <genii-around> I held one for Lucid in same place but got ill and missed Maverick. But hoping to do each next release from here
[14:44] <staticsafe> genii-around: nice nice, i can defintitely come
[14:44] <staticsafe> registering now
[14:44] <genii-around> Cool
[14:46]  * staticsafe adds event to Gcal
[15:12] <staticsafe> genii-around: i'll send a message to the TLUG mailing list about the event as well
[15:17] <genii-around> staticsafe: I was going to tell Colin McGregor, we are both FreeNet guys. But I won't see him until our board meeting tomorrow.
[15:29] <dscassel> staticsafe: There are lots of Toronto Ubuntu people around, but not too many people (genii-around being a welcome exception) doing much organizing.
[15:29] <dscassel> We'd appreciate your help if you wanted to start something. :)
[15:29] <staticsafe> dscassel: heh, i've never organized an event before, so i have no experience
[15:30] <dscassel> No experience necessary. :D
[15:30] <staticsafe> dscassel: what sort of event are we talking about?
[15:30] <dscassel> The easiest thing people can do is start an Ubuntu Hour: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour
[15:30] <staticsafe> hmm
[15:31] <dscassel> Just hang out in a cafe and chat with fellow Ubuntu users.  It doesn't even have to be about Ubuntu.
[15:31] <dscassel> The only tricky part is publicizing it, but we can help with that. :)
[15:32] <staticsafe> dscassel: i can also ask on the TLUG mailing list, also need some possible venues
[15:32] <BluesKaj> I'd like to attend as well, altho it's a 5 hr drive for me , and no laptop , so it would be like playing hockey without a stick :)
[15:32] <dscassel> Linuxcaffe is the obvious one, but for an Hour, it can be anywhere that is happy to have small groups congregating.
[15:33] <dscassel> BluesKaj: You could always start a Sudbury Ubuntu Hour.  Who knows, somebody might show up. :)
[15:36] <BluesKaj> dscassel, well, i contacted a couple of Linux Club guys in Sudbury , but it's a pretty loose arrangement and poorly organized . Also I live in a small town 75km west of Sudbury.
[15:37] <dscassel> BluesKaj: Yeah that makes it trickier.
[15:38] <staticsafe> dscassel: im writing an e-mail to TLUG as we speak. :)
[15:38] <dscassel> OTOH, loose arrangements are what things like the Ubuntu Hour are all about. It's good to meet up face to face once in a while.
[15:38] <dscassel> staticsafe: Cool. :)
[15:39] <dscassel> Oh yeah, IRC meeting tonight.
[15:39] <staticsafe> :O
[15:39] <dscassel> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/35/detail/
[15:40] <dscassel> I'd kinda forgot about it.
[15:40] <dscassel> Good thing I leave myself notes.
[15:40] <BluesKaj> dscassel, so the Toronto meeting would fine for me if I had a laptop , I think it would be interesting , but I don't plan on buying one til June or July
[15:40] <staticsafe> heh the only laptop i have is my Macbook Pro. :P
[15:40] <dscassel> BluesKaj: You don't need a laptop to socialize.  (I hear some Ubuntu Hours ban laptops.  I wouldn't dare do that myself... :)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> dscassel, :)
[15:51] <staticsafe> dscassel: how does this e-mail look to you - http://puu.sh/1dQR
[15:53] <dscassel> staticsafe: Looks great to me. :)
[15:53] <staticsafe> dscassel: alright, will send it now
[15:58] <staticsafe> also got something cool for you guys - http://sprki.com/computer-hardware-chart.html
[16:00] <BluesKaj> staticsafe, on what street/block is the linuxcaffe located ?
[16:02] <staticsafe> BluesKaj: it's on 326 Harbord Street, closest intersection seems to be Bloor St W and Bathurst St
[16:03] <BluesKaj> ok, thanks staticsafe
[16:08] <staticsafe> np
[20:14] <KombuchaKip> Get your gas masks folks. All three reactors melt down imminent. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1365781/Japan-earthquake-tsunami-All-3-Fukushima-nuclear-plant-reactors-meltdown.html
[20:33] <gchisholm> I'd rather a radiation suit ;)
[20:45] <BluesKaj> KombuchaKip, yeah dailymail , areal trusted source :)
[20:46] <KombuchaKip> http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20110312D12JFF03.htm
[21:44] <bregma> those reactors are designed for meltdown, it's not a bad thing
[21:44] <bregma> containment breach, now that's a bad thing
[21:45] <bregma> a meltdown would prevent containment breach
[22:50] <hypatia> meeting!
[22:50] <hypatia> almost forgot :)
[23:02] <dscassel> Meeting!
[23:02] <dscassel> :D
[23:02] <hypatia> do we have an agenda?
[23:02] <dscassel> I'm still getting set up.  Feel free to introduce yourselves. :)
[23:02] <dscassel> Yeah.
[23:02] <dscassel> Well, sort of.  Same as the old agenda, really.
[23:02] <hypatia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2011-03-15 <-- agenda
[23:03] <dscassel> Unless people want to argue about what Mark said to some Gnome developer in 2008.
[23:03] <hypatia> hahaha please no
[23:04] <dscassel> It seems to be a popular passtime these days. Not my thing, tho.
[23:04] <dscassel> Agenda link #2: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/35/detail/
[23:05] <staticsafe> hey guys
[23:06] <dscassel> Hi, staticsafe. Welcome to the meeting. :)
[23:06] <BobJonkman> Hello Everybody!
[23:06] <staticsafe> :)
[23:07] <dscassel> Mass call! [thor] Amgine bhrams BobJonkman bregma capmtripps cyphermox DavidLevin FiReSTaRT gchisholm IdleOne jaguar james_w KombuchaKip kenjy komputes Kulag ryanakca sipherdee SmartSsa starcraftman txwikinger willwh zul !
[23:07] <dscassel> Meeting time, if you're interested.
[23:07] <staticsafe> :)
[23:07]  * komputes does the meeting dance
[23:07] <staticsafe> dscassel: we should have a meeting bot in here. :D
[23:07] <dscassel> Please introduce yourself.  Where are you, what do you do with/for/on/to Ubuntu?
[23:08]  * txwikinger is Ralph Janke
[23:08] <dscassel> staticsafe: One of the locobots is recording the session, but it would be nice to have it cycle through agenda items.
[23:08] <komputes> I'm komputes - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/komputes
[23:08] <hypatia> sup folks! i am hypatia, aka Leigh Honeywell.  loco agitator, Ubuntu Women co-leader, recent keynote speaker at SCALE, and toronto hackerspace person.
[23:08] <kenjy> dscassel: hi there
[23:08] <dscassel> I'm Darcy.  I'm in Kitchener-Waterloo and I'm chairing this meeting.
[23:08] <staticsafe> I'm staticsafe aka Sadiq Saif - https://launchpad.net/~staticsafe
[23:09] <BobJonkman> I'm Bob Jonkman, from Elmira, just north of Waterloo ON. Enthusiast, Hanger-On, Tech Supporter
[23:09] <staticsafe> Oh, and I live in Toronto. :)
[23:09]  * starcraftman is some random guy who may or may not play Starcraft :P He also might be in beginners team, don't let it get out :)
[23:10] <komputes> ^ pretty awesome dude
[23:10] <dscassel> Awesome. :D
[23:10] <kenjy> I'm Alex, I live in México and I work for a newspaper, I have been trying to move to Canada, I use ubuntu at the work
[23:11] <starcraftman> hehe, ty komputes :)
[23:11] <bhrams> I'm new here, hanging around a bit
[23:11] <dscassel> Welcome, everybody! :)
[23:11] <dscassel> Meeting agenda is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2011-03-15
[23:12] <dscassel> It'll look familiar if you've done this before.
[23:12] <dscassel> If anyone has anything else they'd like to talk about, let me know and I'll add it to the agenda.
[23:13] <hypatia> UDS and sponsorship!
[23:13] <hypatia> i will talk about that
[23:13] <txwikinger> put it on the agenda hypatia
[23:14] <dscassel> Ooh, good idea.
[23:14]  * txwikinger can give some comments having been sponsered for UDS before
[23:14] <hypatia> txwikinger: wiki access is still broken
[23:14] <hypatia> if someone else doesn't mind
[23:14] <txwikinger> ok
[23:14] <kenjy> whats UDS?
[23:14]  * hypatia actually files a freaking RT ticket for that RIGHT NOW
[23:15] <kenjy> Ubuntu Data Servers?
[23:15] <dscassel> Ubuntu Developer Summit.
[23:15] <kenjy> :O okay
[23:16] <dscassel> All right.  So Item #1: Events.
[23:16] <dscassel> Two big ones coming up:
[23:16] <dscassel> Ubuntu Global Jam (Apr 1-3)
[23:17] <FiReSTaRT> dscassel: just a quick hello, working atm can't attend meeting
[23:17] <dscassel> And Natty Narwhal release (Apr 28)
[23:17] <dscassel> FiReSTaRT: Any quick update about a Toroto jam?
[23:17] <dscassel> We're holding a Jam here at Kwartzlab on April 2.
[23:18] <dscassel> There was some talk about Jams in Toronto or Peterborough.
[23:18] <komputes> cyphermox: any steps taken in planning the Montreal release party?
[23:20] <txwikinger> I think our friends from Ubuntu-qc will have something for the Jam in Montreal
[23:20] <dscassel> komputes: Since we've got you guys here, can we (as Ubuntu Canada) help (publicize, anything else) ubuntu-qc events?
[23:21] <dscassel> Also, would you be interested in joining us for LAN gaming?  Our party is going to be Apr 30. :)
[23:22] <dscassel> So, Toronto stuff.
[23:22] <komputes> dscassel: whats the game?
[23:22] <dscassel> staticsafe: have you met hypatia?
[23:22] <hypatia> release party!
[23:23] <txwikinger> Toronto will have a Relese party http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/781/detail/
[23:23] <txwikinger> Not sure if there are additional events planned in Toronto?
[23:23] <komputes> dscassel: I have no problem with Ubuntu-CA publishing Ubuntu-QC events in English. I find most of the discussion in QC is in French.
[23:23] <dscassel> komputes: Bunch of stuff. http://kwartzlab.ca/mediawiki/index.php/LAN_Party_Event_Planning#The_Games
[23:25] <dscassel> hypatia: Yeah! genii-around is giving it another go.
[23:25] <komputes> dscassel: I'm in for OpenArena; at least it's the one I have most experience with.
[23:25] <dscassel> Teeworlds is fun and easy. :)
[23:25] <komputes> dscassel: Apr 30th, what time?
[23:26] <staticsafe> sorry dscassel stepped outside for a bit
[23:26] <dscassel> Probably afternoon-ish.  It'll likely go for a bit.
[23:27] <dscassel> komputes: We can work out details later. :)
[23:27] <hypatia> another toronto event coming up is maker faire: http://makerfairetoronto.ca/
[23:28] <komputes> dscassel: sounds good, I marked the 30th afternoonish for the LAN part
[23:28] <dscassel> hypatia: I'll definitely be there.  Should we put together a booth or something?
[23:28] <komputes> oops, april, done
[23:29] <dscassel> Or just wander around handing out CDs and stickers?
[23:30] <komputes> Hoping I could get to play from Montreal.
[23:30] <dscassel> komputes: A pan-Canadian LAN party would be awesome. :D
[23:30] <staticsafe> indeed
[23:30] <komputes> indeed
[23:31] <hypatia> dscassel: we'd be happy to have ubuntu stickers and cd's at the hacklab booth
[23:31] <staticsafe> may I suggest a FPS? Urban Terror is the name. :)
[23:31] <komputes> it becomes a WAN party then ;)
[23:31] <dscassel> ...true...
[23:32] <dscassel> There'll be another meeting before the release party.
[23:32] <BobJonkman> Pan-Canadian LAN party == PanCanLan
[23:32] <hypatia> oh good
[23:32] <hypatia> BobJonkman: i love it
[23:33] <dscassel> This is your last chance to talk about Jams, though.  Except, you know, for pinging me on IRC any time...
[23:34] <dscassel> We're thinking of doing our own Jam earlier in the Oneiric cycle.  This is kind of late for dev contributions.
[23:34] <dscassel> They really want people to test, however.
[23:34] <staticsafe> dscassel: can I add Ubuntu Hours to the agenda?
[23:34] <dscassel> staticsafe: Definitely.  I wanted to at least mention the Jam first. :)
[23:35] <dscassel> So, staticsafe, any news on Ubuntu Hours? :)
[23:35] <staticsafe> dscassel: I asked around on TLUG, got some questions, some nitpicking, no real interest yet
[23:35] <hypatia> nitpicking? tlug? never. :p
[23:36] <dscassel> heh.
[23:36] <dscassel> staticsafe is planning on starting up a Toronto Hour.  Which I think is a fantastic idea. :)
[23:36] <hypatia> yay!
[23:36] <hypatia> that's fantastic
[23:36] <txwikinger>  Well. Ubuntu hours are often something more external not necessarily part of LUGs
[23:36] <BobJonkman> I've started an Ubuntu Hour in Kitchener.  actually, I was just hanging around in the Little Bean Cafe anyway, and just called it an Ubuntu Hour.
[23:37] <BobJonkman> And then some other people showed up!
[23:37] <hypatia> BobJonkman: i think that's the general idea, no?
[23:37] <txwikinger> Magicfab started them by just being in a coffee shop or something like that
[23:37] <dscassel> BobJonkman: Awesome! That's exactly the idea.
[23:37] <staticsafe> I was thinking Linux Caffe. :)
[23:37] <staticsafe> but any other suitable place would do
[23:37] <hypatia> i'm sure djp would be happy to host it
[23:37] <txwikinger> Take some Ubuntu place cards on the table and let people ask questions
[23:37] <hypatia> HackLAb is less good for UH because we don't have food :/
[23:38] <staticsafe> txwikinger: where can I get some of those? :O
[23:38] <txwikinger> staticsafe: Well Linuxcaffee is nice, but most people there probaly already know about FLOSS.. Other places probably have more advertisement value
[23:38] <dscassel> Just getting started with a regular meetup goes a long way to building up the community.
[23:38] <txwikinger> staticsafe: make some yourself?
[23:38] <hypatia> txwikinger: not really true
[23:38] <staticsafe> hmm
[23:38] <BobJonkman> Have a placecard on me: http://sobac.com/temp/ubuntu/  ODF Draw file, or JPG image
[23:38] <staticsafe> thanks BobJonkman
[23:38] <hypatia> lots of just randome coffee people at LC
[23:39] <txwikinger> hypatia: well.. educate me.. I never made it to the Linuxcaffee yet :D
[23:39] <hypatia> and UH isn't just about outreaching to random people
[23:39] <hypatia> it's about building community for people who are already involved
[23:39] <hypatia> txwikinger: it's a regular coffee shop for most patrons
[23:39] <txwikinger> hypatia: cool.. well then it is certainly a good place too
[23:39] <dscassel> How to run an Ubuntu Hour: http://askubuntu.com/questions/7/how-do-i-run-a-successful-ubuntu-hour
[23:40] <hypatia> dscassel: nice
[23:40]  * hypatia bookmarks
[23:40]  * bhrams might be down for a Toronto UH
[23:41] <txwikinger> Make sure the Ubuntu hour is put on the loco schedule
[23:41] <txwikinger> Then I might also even blog about it
[23:41]  * staticsafe opens up loco page
[23:41] <dscassel> We've got to put these up on the web page as well.
[23:42]  * dscassel makes a note to self
[23:42] <staticsafe> hmm, how do I add a scheduled even?
[23:42] <staticsafe> event*
[23:42] <dscassel> staticsafe: First, log in.
[23:42] <staticsafe> dscassel: already am. :)
[23:42] <dscassel> Then there should be an "add event" link.
[23:43] <dscassel> You have to be a member of the Ubuntu-ca launchpad team.
[23:44] <staticsafe> dscassel: hmm, I logged in at ubuntu-ca.org
[23:44] <billybigrigger> howdy all
[23:44] <txwikinger> no.. it is at loco.ubuntu.com
[23:44] <dscassel> staticsafe: Yeah. http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ca
[23:44] <staticsafe> ah
[23:44] <staticsafe> ty
[23:45] <dscassel> We can set you up with a webpage login too, but that's a little more involved.  Talk to txwikinger later.
[23:45] <staticsafe> alright, cool
[23:45] <BobJonkman> Speaking of Web page...
[23:45] <dscassel> BobJonkman: Let's do UDS first.
[23:45] <BobJonkman> OK
[23:46] <dscassel> UDS!  (It's 7:45...)
[23:46] <dscassel> hypatia: What's involved in sponsorship? I have no idea.
[23:46] <hypatia> ok! so
[23:46] <hypatia> you go to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/
[23:46] <hypatia> you sign in
[23:47] <hypatia> and you submit a form, which is a multi-stage process
[23:47] <hypatia> i've documented the steps on the ubuntu women wiki
[23:47] <hypatia> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/UDS
[23:47] <hypatia> which also has more info about the application process
[23:47] <hypatia> basically you have to do a writeup of your contributions in the past cycle, and talk about what you want to do in the next cycle
[23:49] <txwikinger> And then you have to do some chores at the UDS event. Like be a runner and hanging up posters of the sessions etc
[23:49] <txwikinger> that is if you are sponsored
[23:49] <hypatia> yup
[23:49] <dscassel> UDS is awesome, by the way.  Even if you can't spend a week in Budapest, you can follow along online.
[23:49] <dscassel> There's audio streaming and IRC chats for every session.
[23:49] <hypatia> yup, all the sessions are simulcast
[23:50] <dscassel> You get a very good idea for how Ubuntu actually works.
[23:50] <txwikinger> Yes.. the only thing you are missing on the remote participation are the hallway talks and the socialising, but all the sessions you can participate
[23:51] <txwikinger> Anymore questions/points for UDS sponsorship?
[23:51] <dscassel> Anybody is welcome to attend UDS.  Sponsorship means Canonical will pay for you to be there.
[23:52] <hypatia> that's all i've got, txwikinger
[23:52] <dscassel> Okay.  Almost 8.  We should move onto the web page.
[23:52] <hypatia> yup
[23:52] <txwikinger> BobJonkman1: ?
[23:53] <dscassel> wmpetersen sent us an updated site logo, and tonyyarusso updated the theme.
[23:53] <BobJonkman1> Sorry.  Flaky BIOS, laptop keeps locking up.  Only BIOS upgrade available is for Windows...
[23:53] <dscassel> I'm not entirely sure where that updated theme is, but we should get it on launchpad.
[23:53] <BobJonkman1> So, I still can't log into http://ubuntu-ca.org
[23:53] <dscassel> BobJonkman1: we'll forgive you.
[23:54] <BobJonkman1> I get various errors, the latest (today) being that "User bjonkman already exists"
[23:54] <dscassel> We're still having OpenID issues, apparently.
[23:54] <BobJonkman1> Yes, I log in with OpenID
[23:55] <komputes> txwikinger: the only thing you are missing on the remote participation is the drinking
[23:55] <staticsafe> heh komputes
[23:55]  * staticsafe is underage
[23:55] <BobJonkman1> Usually with http://sobac.com/bjonkman which contains a redirect to https://launchpad.net/~bjonkman
[23:55] <txwikinger> BobJonkman1: There is some mess with the launchpad openid plugin
[23:55] <dscassel> staticsafe: I don't think that's an issue in Hungary. :)
[23:55] <hypatia> staticsafe: probably not underage in hungary, haha
[23:56] <hypatia> dscassel: jinx
[23:56] <dscassel> :D
[23:56]  * dscassel doesn't drink. 9_9
[23:56] <txwikinger> staticsafe: they have lemonade in Hungary ;)
[23:56] <komputes> omg they do? now i'm super excited :-D
[23:56] <txwikinger> komputes: You can drink at home too
[23:57]  * komputes cracks one open
[23:57]  * staticsafe sticks to milk
[23:57] <txwikinger> BobJonkman1: Maybe it is best we hook up one of those days and I help you through the process to fix your account to work with openid again
[23:58] <BobJonkman1> OK, offline.  Show up for a Kitchener Ubuntu Hour one morning :-)
[23:58] <txwikinger> BobJonkman1: Some people work at  those times :D
[23:59] <hypatia> laters BobJonkman1