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dylan-mHey, I'm getting an error when I try to build Unity: in PlaceFactoryFile, “DATADIR was not declared in this scope.” Have I upset it somehow?00:31
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lamonthighvoltage: the livecd build process dist-upgrades the chroot.  if you changed BuildLiveCD, that requires intervention, but otherwise it's automatic01:01
highvoltagelamont: great, thanks01:35
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webminHi i've setup a crontab to initiate a  every 10 minutes to copy /etc/mail from one server to another. My workplace are not to happy that im using root because of security reason. But when I try to use a standard user the process fails. Does anyone know why?05:06
webminif yes? is there a way of getting round this issue?05:07
StevenKYes, a standard user can't write to /etc/mail, but this is not a support channel. I suggest you follow up in #ubuntu.05:07
webminthanks steven. can I ask one last question.. is there a way of getting round this issue using sudo?05:08
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pittiGood morning07:05
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didrocksgood morning07:50
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hychen_cjwatson, hi, can Grub2 change boot process bt partition active flag which mean mbr will chainload to a partition has a active flag?08:21
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dholbachgood morning08:33
abhinav-dholbach, good morning :)08:36
dholbachhey abhinav-08:36
abhinav-dholbach, GSOC application timeline has ended for mentoring organizations, when will the discussion about project ideas start ?08:37
dholbachabhinav-, we don't even know that Ubuntu was accepted08:39
dholbachwe wait for Google's go-ahead08:39
dholbachbut if you have an idea you want to work on, you can start thinking some more about it already and flesh out a plan08:39
abhinav-ok. yes, that's right. :)08:40
evfoolany ureadahead developers here?09:04
zee313Readon player is used for watching different channels on web. Do UBUNTU has such software?09:23
evfoolyes, you can try SopCast player for Ubuntu, or Miro for watching podcasts09:28
evfoolzee313 ^09:28
cjwatsonzyga: thanks, actually I didn't know that - qemu is full of stuff I haven't learned yet.  Updated my post, thanks :-)09:43
zygacjwatson, :-)09:43
zygacjwatson, I tried this on my laptop just now, unfortunately qemu and win7 don't like each other  so it crashes quickly09:43
zygacjwatson, but linux did boot okay09:44
cjwatsonhychen_: sounds like you might be looking for http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#parttool?09:44
zygacjwatson, you just have to be careful not to do C+s c (or was it C+s s) because that actually flushes the snapshot to backing device09:44
cjwatsonC-a s according to the man page09:44
hychen_cjwatson, I want to know how does grub2 stage 1 find which partition it will boot? can it be set by I changed active flag of partition manually?09:46
cjwatsonfirstly, terminology - GRUB 2 no longer calls it stage 1, see http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Images09:47
cjwatsonsecondly, GRUB (Legacy or 2) pays no attention whatsoever to the active flag09:47
cjwatsonthirdly, grub-install adjusts the image it installs to know which partition it's supposed to boot09:48
cjwatsonif the disk GRUB is being installed to is the same as where /boot/grub lives, then it just hardwires a partition number09:48
cjwatsonotherwise, it hardwires a UUID09:48
cjwatson(I'm simplifying slightly, if you're using LVM or something for /boot/grub then it hardwires the GRUB device name for that)09:49
abhinav-pitti, subprocess.check_output() would be ok to execute xprop and get its result back ?09:50
pittihey abhinav-09:51
pittiabhinav-: sure09:51
pittiabhinav-: btw, thanks for pointing this out, I didn't know about check_output yet09:52
pittithat's new in 2.709:52
abhinav-pitti, :-)09:52
pittiabhinav-: let me know if you need help with the test suite09:52
abhinav-pitti, ok sure. I will implement this and get back to you about the test suite :-)09:53
pittiabhinav-: test/run does the full thing, but if you are only hacking on apport/ui.py, then running "PYTHONPATH=. python apport/ui.py -v" is faster09:53
abhinav-ok. I don't need to add anything to test suite ?09:54
pittiabhinav-: you'll probably need to update test_parse_argv_apport_bug() for the new option09:55
pittiabhinav-: btw, for even faster test suite runs you can also do09:55
pittiPYTHONPATH=. python apport/ui.py _T.test_parse_argv_apport_bug _T.test_parse_argv_single_arg09:55
pittithat'll just run these two, which take no time09:56
pittiabhinav-: actually testing the functionality of the new --window argument is impractical in teh automatic tests, of course09:56
abhinav-pitti, yes right :D09:56
pittiabhinav-: it can only check that the argument is correctly recognized in the two different modes (apport-cli/gtk with full option suite, and the reduced ones in ubuntu-bug)09:57
abhinav-btw pretty cool stuff in apport. Its a great source of learning :)09:57
Nafallocjwatson: it did on the next boot after I had installed more updates, interestingly. so I ended up with two rootflags= in my grub prompt, and apparently that made it dump me in initramfs as well. after that I had to change my fstab to use subvolid for home, cause for some reason subvol=@home stopped working :-)10:18
Nafallocjwatson: all in all, I don't think I can re-produce the "rootflags gone missing" issue any more :-(10:19
cjwatsonNafallo: ok, if it happens again let me know10:20
cjwatsonsounds like something was odd at the btrfs level, TBH ...10:20
cjwatson(if both grub-probe and mount were behaving oddly)10:21
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Nafalloyeah. both should have picked up the default subvol... I wonder if the thing just forgot what it was or something :-/10:22
apwslangasek, wondering if we are expecting futher compiler updates from you, need to know for the kernel10:30
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zygalifeless, ping11:18
lifelesszyga: nearly 1am; suggest you mail me :)11:51
zygalifeless, sorry about that, I just wanted to ask you about cyclic dependency in python-testtools and python-fixtures but I think I can resolve that myself11:53
zygalifeless, where are you btw?11:54
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beunozyga, he's in New Zealand12:08
cjwatsonLaney: is it just me, or is ghc6.triggers wrong?12:24
cjwatson$ cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/ghc6.triggers12:25
cjwatsoninterest /var/lib/ghc-6.12.1/package.conf.d12:25
cjwatson$ dpkg -L ghc6 | grep var/lib | head -n3 | tail -n112:25
Riddellmicahg: bug 699843 is waiting on you12:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 699843 in pidgin-facebookchat (Ubuntu Lucid) "package pidgin-facebookchat (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin/protocols/16/facebook.png', which is also in package pidgin-data 1:2.7.9-1ubuntu0 pidgin1.10.04" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69984312:27
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om26erkirkland, Hi! Can you please sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/natty/totem/totem-fixes/+merge/5342712:53
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Laneycjwatson: oh, looks like it, doesn't it?13:21
LaneyI assumed that would be correctly dynamic, investigating...13:21
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akheronpitti: regarding bug 735341, how do I make it affect the shadow package again?13:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 735341 in adduser (Ubuntu) "adduser creates expired system user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73534113:25
pittiakheron: open the triangle to the left of "adduser" in the yellow bar, and change it in teh input line13:26
cjwatsonLaney: I'm guessing we haven't noticed it on buildds because all the build-deps get installed in one pass13:26
akheronpitti: ah, thanks13:27
akheronthere's no way to make it affect multiple ubuntu packages?13:27
pittiakheron: there is; "also affects distribution..."13:27
pittiakheron: but before that is done the bug should actually be investigated13:27
Laneycjwatson: it's fixed to be dynamic in darcs13:27
pittiI'm afraid I'm out of my wisdom what's wrong there13:27
akheronpitti: I'm out of my wisdom too13:28
akheronI've seen this popping out every now and then since karmic for my installation13:28
cjwatsonLaney: thanks13:28
Laneythanks for the spot13:28
akheronpitti: would it be possible that the root user is expired?13:35
rsalvetiRAOF: was looking at the mesa package, and properly packaging the gles driver for powervr sgx 540 for omap 4, and was thinking if we should also provide/replace/conflict the gles -dev related packages, so other packages could basically replace them and depend on the virtual package13:35
pittiakheron: I don't know; but root expiring really Should Not Happen(TM)13:36
rsalvetiRAOF: do you know how this is done for the normal desktop gl drivers?13:36
akheronpitti: how do I check if it's expired?13:36
pittiakheron: sudo chage -l root13:37
pittiakheron: there you can also check sudo passwd -S postgres13:37
akheronAccount expires                                         : Jan 02, 197013:38
pittithat looks wrong13:38
pittiit should be "account/password expires: never"13:38
akheronI set it to this date with usermod -e 1 root and now chfn started working13:40
akheronbut how to set it to "never"?13:40
pittiset it to -1, according to the manpage13:40
akheronah yes, but with chage13:41
akheronusermod doesn't accept -113:42
akheronyay \o/13:42
akheronnow everything works again13:42
akheronand hopefully my packages install cleanly in the future :)13:42
pittistill werid..13:43
akheronyep, how it got expired in the first place13:44
cjwatsonbroder: did you ever get back to looking at rewriting hwmatch.lua in C?13:49
micahgRiddell: ACK, will look again today13:53
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roadmrHey all! I used to be able to get X memory usage info from /proc/dri/0/gem_objects, but as of kernel 2.6.38-6 (Natty recent dailies) it's gone - where can I get that information now?14:07
hallynkirkland: did you not 'pilot out' when you were done?14:09
* hallyn points at the topic14:09
kirkland@pilot out14:09
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kirklandhallyn: evidently not :-)14:09
hallynkirkland: regarding bug 683957, did that that new default come in from upstream, or was it done on purpose?14:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 683957 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) "guest ata controller becomes unresponsive" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68395714:15
ChrisGagnonroadmr: try your question in #ubuntu-kernel14:16
roadmrthanks ChrisGagnon !! will do14:16
hallynkirkland: though comments #3 and #5 are not compatible14:17
hallynoh, i guess so14:18
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dholbachdendrobates, happy birthday! :)14:31
dendrobatesdholbach: thanks14:32
slangasekapw: the compiler is going to be uploaded a second time this week for multiarch bootstrapping14:38
apwslangasek, any idea when as we have to rebuild for compiler uploads generally14:39
psusihrm... is there a channel for webmasters?  help.ubuntu.com seems to have a bug: it is stripping the '/' separator from the page title so Foo/Subpage is shown as just "FooSubpage"14:40
micahgpsusi: #ubuntu-website14:40
psusiahh ;)14:41
slangasekapw: sometime late today or tomorrow-ish, as the current upload needs to finish building on armel and then I need to upload eglibc, followed by a new gcc-4.5 build once eglibc is installed14:41
micahgpsusi: or you can file a bug against that project in LP14:41
apwslangasek, so we are talking 2 days from now ish as armel takes 24 hours14:41
apwslangasek, and is that it once the second one is done?14:42
barrymvo: any thoughts on bug 735491 ?14:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 735491 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt can't recover from file corruptions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73549114:43
mvobarry: yeah, I had a idea how to fix it14:45
barryis it a viable work around to mv the files aside until apt-get update doesn't fail?14:46
slangasekapw: that'll be it from my side14:46
mvobarry: yeah, or remove them14:46
apwslangasek, i guess i'll try and get an upload in the window while you are doing eglibc14:46
barrymvo: cool, thanks.  a very interesting problem (thank you hotel :)14:47
mvoheh :)14:47
slangasekapw: would really be nice if someone would fix this misfeature that requires the exact same package version of the compiler :)14:47
barrymvo: thanks!14:47
apwslangasek, its not a miss feature, per see.  its all about those damn external modules which have to be built with a compiler which optimises in the same way to ensure that the calling convention matches14:48
apwand given even and ubuntu1 -> ubuntu2 change can bring an entire new linaro compiler into the mix, we have little choice but to use the full version string14:49
apwif we could get rid of those modules we could remove the interaction all together14:50
apwindeed if we don't rebuild, then we simply can lose the binary drivers, which doesn't affect me as my machine is all intel14:50
dnearymdz: ping?14:52
mdzdneary, hi14:57
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hallyncharlie-tca: newly rsync'd desktop iso is still hanging for me in a vm.  Do you still have trouble?15:38
charlie-tcayup, but cjwatson said yesterday the fix won't be out until tomorrow now15:39
charlie-tcahallyn: yesterday's log15:40
charlie-tca<cjwatson> it won't necessarily be fixed tomorrow, since I'm probably not going to squeeze in another ubiquity upload before going to bed15:40
hallyncharlie-tca: i see, thanks.15:44
YokoZarpitti: tyvm for wine1.3 :)15:45
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abhinav-pitti, I have made changes in ui.py, also updated test_parse_argv_apport_bug() . Now I was trying to build it using bzr bd but it gives error. Or should I use setup.py ?16:07
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jdstranddholbach: hi! would it make sense for ubuntu-security-sponsors to be a member of ubuntu-reviewers?16:12
pittiabhinav-: trunk doesn't have any packaging; just run it straight from the build tree16:12
pittiabhinav-: PYTHONPATH=. gtk/apport-gtk --help16:13
dholbachjdstrand, sure why not - nigelb: ^16:13
pittiabhinav-: or if you just modified ui.py and nothing else, just PYTHONPATH=. ubuntu-bug ...16:13
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cr3slangasek: hi there, I've been working on bug #728611 with Carl Milette who commented on related bug #727925. since you seem to have experience with plymouth, might you have a minute to help us get somekind of interactive session when plymouth is running?16:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 728611 in plymouth (Ubuntu Natty) "[natty] text does not display in plymouth (disk check, passphrase prompts)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72861116:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 727925 in plymouth (Ubuntu Natty) "Kubuntu, when asking for encrypted fs password splash screen contains no instructions (dup-of: 728611)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72792516:35
macowhat's the script you can use to find out what someone's upload rights are or packageset info and suchlike?16:43
micahgmaco: edit-acl.py in ubuntu-archive-tools16:45
micahger, I think that's with an underscore actually16:45
maco...thats not a package16:46
abhinav-pitti, I am in my build tree and did PYTHONPATH=. gtk/apport-gtk --help but it is giving some errors: http://pastebin.com/LGNmTXpD16:48
geserand the script is edit-acl.py16:48
abhinav-pitti, I am totally new to PYTHONPATH, so might be doing something wrong :(16:48
Laneyno :(16:49
macogot it16:50
Laneyghc's unix package changes ABI16:50
Laneybut I need to upload a fix, but that would cause a transition16:50
Laneytoy -o                             |_| pram16:50
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macoLaney: you're a motu but not core-dev right?16:55
geserah right, pure MOTUs in DMB have some extra permissions due to how the teams are set up (e.g. are also members of ~ubuntu-desktop)16:56
macogeser: thats what i was about to point out16:57
macokubuntu-dev and ubuntu-server and such as well16:57
gesermaco: either take care that you don't use those rights by mistake or apply for core-dev :)16:58
macogeser: hah im not applying for core-dev any time soon16:58
macokubuntu-dev i was gonna do at some point this year16:58
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* micahg thought permission-wise DMB members are core-devs17:00
gesermicahg: DMB can add people to core-dev but hasn't upload right to main by definition17:01
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micahggeser: wasn't referring to actual rights (as in should do), but permissions (system allows)17:02
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gesermicahg: depends on how a team got set up: DMB is the owner of ~ubuntu-core-dev (but not an admin), for other package set teams, the dmb is not owner but only admin (and therefore also member)17:04
micahggeser: ah, so one of the owner/member bug was fixed?17:05
Laneyowner doesn't grant upload permissions17:06
Laneyonly member does17:06
geserI don't know about that bug17:06
geserand admins are members, only the owner can not be a member but still add people to the team17:06
micahggeser: nevermind, not important17:06
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geserand as I don't fully understand how all this admin/owner thing in LP works, I don't touch teams unless necessary17:08
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slava__I have integrated Wireless controller (connected with miniPCI) in my notebook. But the button, that should switch on it don't work. In windows I have to run special program to make this button work. I've written code that switch on wifi in ubuntu (that code uses /dev/ports), but I don't know how to hook this "wifi" key. What code in which package I may change to make it work properly?17:23
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cjwatsonkees: where is your VCS branch for ubiquity 2.5.25?17:25
c2tarunI created a natty chroot in kubuntu on different partition, can I use that chroot from ubuntu?17:26
keescjwatson: I put it in the bzr tree mentioned in the debian/control file17:27
keescjwatson: iirc, ~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk17:27
cjwatsonkees: it's not there17:28
* kees scratches his head17:28
cjwatsonif it had been I wouldn't be asking :-)17:28
keescjwatson: heh, right. let me check my tree, maybe it was a branch and not a checkout...17:28
slangasekcr3: hi, what do you mean by 'interactive session'?17:28
cjwatsonkees: could you push it under ~kees somewhere and I'll deal with merging it?17:29
keescjwatson: sure, one sec17:29
slangasekcr3: I don't have much in the way of time to spend on plymouth right now; that bug needs fixing to be sure, but I'm not sure I'm going to be able to help much17:29
keescjwatson: yup, looks like it was a branch that never pushed. I've pushed it to lp:~kees/ubiquity/ver-2.5.25 now17:30
cjwatsonkees: thanks, merged back now17:32
keescjwatson: cool; sorry about that glitch.17:32
jdstrandhallyn: fyi, will upload your libvirt change today. the debdiff was malformed, but I saw what you wanted to do. added another patch and running through qrt now17:37
cjwatsonhallyn,charlie-tca: ubiquity 2.5.26 uploaded now17:53
charlie-tcaAnd that will fix the ubi-partman bug?17:54
charlie-tcaThank You very much!17:54
cjwatsonEvan committed a fix for that which is included17:55
hallynjdstrand: i had a libvirt change?18:34
jdstrandhallyn: yes, for the test suite18:35
jdstrandReplace 9024-skip-broken-commandtest.patch with 9024-fix-broken-commandtest.patch from upstream18:35
jdstrandhallyn: ^18:35
jdstrandhallyn: you gave it to me a while ago, but I am only getting to it now18:36
hallynjdstrand: cool, thanks18:39
achiangcjwatson: nice war story re: debugging wubi!18:42
cjwatsonachiang: it was an interesting ride18:43
achiangcjwatson: the closest i've come to that was debugging kexec bugs; luckily where i was, we had a custom in-house full-platform simulator that allowed single-stepping a CPU and poking at memory18:44
achiangcjwatson: i didn't have to deal with real mode though.... that sounds painful18:45
cjwatsononce you figure out what's going on, it's a matter of keeping a clear head, but it does take a while18:45
psusiwar story?18:48
achiangpsusi: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/2011/03/15#2011-03-14-wubi-bug-69367118:49
cr3slangasek: just wondering if I can drop to a shell from the cryptsetup script, adding /bin/sh before plymouth ask-for-password doesn't seem to work because, when I escape to the console, I see busybox but then it kicks me back to the graphical interface18:50
cr3slangasek: also, if you might happen to know on top of your head how to get ply_trace to show stuff on the console, maybe I could fallback to printf debugging18:51
cr3slangasek: I'll try not to take much of your time, mostly trying to refer to your experience without having you actually do anything :)18:51
cjwatsoncr3: it's easier to use plymouth:debug=file:/dev/.initramfs/plymouth.debug (requires natty)18:55
cjwatsonthe console tends to scroll off too quickly18:55
cr3cjwatson: I've noticed that plymouth: option somewhere in the source, but I didn't see where to specify that18:59
* cr3 is delving into plymouth for the first time, this is all new19:00
slangasekcr3: specified on the kernel commandline19:06
GunnarHjtedg: Hi Ted, did you see my new proposed solution to bug 636693? I believe it satisfies all the aspects we have discussed.19:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 636693 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) "Premature lock when launching guest session" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63669319:10
GunnarHjtedg: Btw, is that dbus option by-passing /usr/share/gdm/guest-session/guest-session-launch?19:10
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mrc3_hello! while trying to update gst-plugins-base and -good,  i'm getting a file collision that makes no sense to me:21:38
mrc3_dpkg: error processing gstreamer0.10-plugins-good_0.10.28-0ubuntu1+ti0.24.12_armel.deb (--install): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/ro/LC_MESSAGES/.mo', which is also in package libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 0.10.32-1ubuntu3+ti0.24.1221:38
mrc3_what did i miss that is making the mo file (from the po/ directory) install without a package name?21:41
bdrungafter todays natty update, gdm doesn't come up again. anyone else experience this issue?22:05
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hallynbdrung: hm, that's with new upstart I presume.  (but no, I don't see that - though my system is messed up anyway, but at least gdm comes up)22:31
bdrunghallyn: yes, that was probably upstart.22:31
hallynQuite sure I've got that update, but I"ll go try another update to make sure22:32
bdrungdowngrading gdm didn't help22:36
broderbdrung: it was a change in gdm's upstart config22:41
bdrungbroder: i downgraded gdm and now gdm comes up correctly.22:43
bdrungbroder: should i file a bug report or is there already one open?22:44
broderbdrung: don't know, but the relevant change is connected to bug #43693622:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 436936 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu Karmic) "gdm upstart job checks /proc/cmdline for single user mode, won't start on post-boot runlevel change" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43693622:45
hallyncjwatson: just to make sure, you've not beein looking at bug 717445 at all yet, right?22:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 717445 in grub2 (Ubuntu Karmic) "grub2 in lucid doesn't work in qemu with '-vga std'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71744522:46
hallyn(I intend to start looking in more detail at the guilty patch)22:46
bdrungbroder: probably. one change in the 2.32.0-0ubuntu10 upload is the reason.22:49
cjwatsonhallyn: not really no, sorry23:21
Davieylamont, Are you around?  If so, do you want to upload your bind9 package to lucid-proposed?  Or would you prefer i did it?23:33
* SpamapS just realized his compiz crashed 2 hours ago.. who needs a window manager when you've got 37 total inches of screen real estate? ;)23:41

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