=== dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === ion_ is now known as ion === Auv5[Alt] is now known as Auv5 [00:31] Hey, I'm getting an error when I try to build Unity: in PlaceFactoryFile, “DATADIR was not declared in this scope.” Have I upset it somehow? === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [01:01] highvoltage: the livecd build process dist-upgrades the chroot. if you changed BuildLiveCD, that requires intervention, but otherwise it's automatic [01:35] lamont: great, thanks === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [05:06] hi [05:06] Hi i've setup a crontab to initiate a every 10 minutes to copy /etc/mail from one server to another. My workplace are not to happy that im using root because of security reason. But when I try to use a standard user the process fails. Does anyone know why? [05:07] if yes? is there a way of getting round this issue? [05:07] Yes, a standard user can't write to /etc/mail, but this is not a support channel. I suggest you follow up in #ubuntu. [05:08] thanks steven. can I ask one last question.. is there a way of getting round this issue using sudo? [05:11] Haha === elky` is now known as elky [07:05] Good morning === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [07:50] good morning === rraphink is now known as raphink === smb` is now known as smb [08:21] cjwatson, hi, can Grub2 change boot process bt partition active flag which mean mbr will chainload to a partition has a active flag? === rraphink is now known as raphink [08:33] good morning [08:36] dholbach, good morning :) [08:36] hey abhinav- [08:37] dholbach, GSOC application timeline has ended for mentoring organizations, when will the discussion about project ideas start ? [08:39] abhinav-, we don't even know that Ubuntu was accepted [08:39] we wait for Google's go-ahead [08:39] but if you have an idea you want to work on, you can start thinking some more about it already and flesh out a plan [08:39] :) [08:40] ok. yes, that's right. :) [09:04] any ureadahead developers here? [09:23] Readon player is used for watching different channels on web. Do UBUNTU has such software? [09:28] yes, you can try SopCast player for Ubuntu, or Miro for watching podcasts [09:28] zee313 ^ [09:43] zyga: thanks, actually I didn't know that - qemu is full of stuff I haven't learned yet. Updated my post, thanks :-) [09:43] cjwatson, :-) [09:43] cjwatson, I tried this on my laptop just now, unfortunately qemu and win7 don't like each other so it crashes quickly [09:44] cjwatson, but linux did boot okay [09:44] hychen_: sounds like you might be looking for http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#parttool? [09:44] cjwatson, you just have to be careful not to do C+s c (or was it C+s s) because that actually flushes the snapshot to backing device [09:44] C-a s according to the man page [09:46] cjwatson, I want to know how does grub2 stage 1 find which partition it will boot? can it be set by I changed active flag of partition manually? [09:47] firstly, terminology - GRUB 2 no longer calls it stage 1, see http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Images [09:47] secondly, GRUB (Legacy or 2) pays no attention whatsoever to the active flag [09:48] thirdly, grub-install adjusts the image it installs to know which partition it's supposed to boot [09:48] if the disk GRUB is being installed to is the same as where /boot/grub lives, then it just hardwires a partition number [09:48] otherwise, it hardwires a UUID [09:49] (I'm simplifying slightly, if you're using LVM or something for /boot/grub then it hardwires the GRUB device name for that) [09:50] pitti, subprocess.check_output() would be ok to execute xprop and get its result back ? [09:51] hey abhinav- [09:51] abhinav-: sure [09:52] abhinav-: btw, thanks for pointing this out, I didn't know about check_output yet [09:52] that's new in 2.7 [09:52] pitti, :-) [09:52] abhinav-: let me know if you need help with the test suite [09:53] pitti, ok sure. I will implement this and get back to you about the test suite :-) [09:53] abhinav-: test/run does the full thing, but if you are only hacking on apport/ui.py, then running "PYTHONPATH=. python apport/ui.py -v" is faster [09:54] ok. I don't need to add anything to test suite ? [09:55] abhinav-: you'll probably need to update test_parse_argv_apport_bug() for the new option [09:55] abhinav-: btw, for even faster test suite runs you can also do [09:55] PYTHONPATH=. python apport/ui.py _T.test_parse_argv_apport_bug _T.test_parse_argv_single_arg [09:56] that'll just run these two, which take no time [09:56] abhinav-: actually testing the functionality of the new --window argument is impractical in teh automatic tests, of course [09:56] pitti, yes right :D [09:57] abhinav-: it can only check that the argument is correctly recognized in the two different modes (apport-cli/gtk with full option suite, and the reduced ones in ubuntu-bug) [09:57] yes [09:57] thanks! [09:57] btw pretty cool stuff in apport. Its a great source of learning :) [10:18] cjwatson: it did on the next boot after I had installed more updates, interestingly. so I ended up with two rootflags= in my grub prompt, and apparently that made it dump me in initramfs as well. after that I had to change my fstab to use subvolid for home, cause for some reason subvol=@home stopped working :-) [10:19] cjwatson: all in all, I don't think I can re-produce the "rootflags gone missing" issue any more :-( [10:20] Nafallo: ok, if it happens again let me know [10:20] sounds like something was odd at the btrfs level, TBH ... [10:21] (if both grub-probe and mount were behaving oddly) === jporsini is now known as jfi_ [10:22] yeah. both should have picked up the default subvol... I wonder if the thing just forgot what it was or something :-/ [10:30] slangasek, wondering if we are expecting futher compiler updates from you, need to know for the kernel === hunger_ is now known as hunger === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo [11:18] lifeless, ping [11:51] zyga: nearly 1am; suggest you mail me :) [11:53] lifeless, sorry about that, I just wanted to ask you about cyclic dependency in python-testtools and python-fixtures but I think I can resolve that myself [11:54] lifeless, where are you btw? === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:08] zyga, he's in New Zealand [12:09] oh [12:24] Laney: is it just me, or is ghc6.triggers wrong? [12:25] $ cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/ghc6.triggers [12:25] interest /var/lib/ghc-6.12.1/package.conf.d [12:25] $ dpkg -L ghc6 | grep var/lib | head -n3 | tail -n1 [12:25] /var/lib/ghc-6.12.3/package.conf.d [12:27] micahg: bug 699843 is waiting on you [12:27] Launchpad bug 699843 in pidgin-facebookchat (Ubuntu Lucid) "package pidgin-facebookchat (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin/protocols/16/facebook.png', which is also in package pidgin-data 1:2.7.9-1ubuntu0 pidgin1.10.04" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/699843 === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === zul_ is now known as zul === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [12:53] kirkland, Hi! Can you please sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/natty/totem/totem-fixes/+merge/53427 === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:21] cjwatson: oh, looks like it, doesn't it? [13:21] I assumed that would be correctly dynamic, investigating... === om26er_ is now known as om26er [13:25] pitti: regarding bug 735341, how do I make it affect the shadow package again? [13:25] Launchpad bug 735341 in adduser (Ubuntu) "adduser creates expired system user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735341 [13:26] akheron: open the triangle to the left of "adduser" in the yellow bar, and change it in teh input line [13:26] Laney: I'm guessing we haven't noticed it on buildds because all the build-deps get installed in one pass [13:27] pitti: ah, thanks [13:27] there's no way to make it affect multiple ubuntu packages? [13:27] akheron: there is; "also affects distribution..." [13:27] ahh [13:27] akheron: but before that is done the bug should actually be investigated [13:27] cjwatson: it's fixed to be dynamic in darcs [13:27] cherry-picking [13:27] I'm afraid I'm out of my wisdom what's wrong there [13:28] pitti: I'm out of my wisdom too [13:28] I've seen this popping out every now and then since karmic for my installation [13:28] Laney: thanks [13:28] thanks for the spot [13:35] pitti: would it be possible that the root user is expired? [13:35] RAOF: was looking at the mesa package, and properly packaging the gles driver for powervr sgx 540 for omap 4, and was thinking if we should also provide/replace/conflict the gles -dev related packages, so other packages could basically replace them and depend on the virtual package [13:36] akheron: I don't know; but root expiring really Should Not Happen(TM) [13:36] RAOF: do you know how this is done for the normal desktop gl drivers? [13:36] pitti: how do I check if it's expired? [13:37] akheron: sudo chage -l root [13:37] akheron: there you can also check sudo passwd -S postgres [13:38] Account expires : Jan 02, 1970 [13:38] hmm.... [13:38] that looks wrong [13:38] it should be "account/password expires: never" [13:40] I set it to this date with usermod -e 1 root and now chfn started working [13:40] but how to set it to "never"? [13:40] set it to -1, according to the manpage [13:41] ah yes, but with chage [13:42] usermod doesn't accept -1 [13:42] yay \o/ [13:42] now everything works again [13:42] and hopefully my packages install cleanly in the future :) [13:43] still werid.. [13:44] yep, how it got expired in the first place [13:49] broder: did you ever get back to looking at rewriting hwmatch.lua in C? [13:53] Riddell: ACK, will look again today === mterry_ is now known as mterry [14:07] Hey all! I used to be able to get X memory usage info from /proc/dri/0/gem_objects, but as of kernel 2.6.38-6 (Natty recent dailies) it's gone - where can I get that information now? [14:09] kirkland: did you not 'pilot out' when you were done? [14:09] * hallyn points at the topic [14:09] @pilot out === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: feature freeze | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Current Friendly Patch Pilots: [14:09] hallyn: evidently not :-) [14:15] kirkland: regarding bug 683957, did that that new default come in from upstream, or was it done on purpose? [14:15] Launchpad bug 683957 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) "guest ata controller becomes unresponsive" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683957 [14:16] roadmr: try your question in #ubuntu-kernel [14:16] thanks ChrisGagnon !! will do [14:17] kirkland: though comments #3 and #5 are not compatible [14:18] oh, i guess so === herton is now known as herton_lunch [14:31] dendrobates, happy birthday! :) [14:32] dholbach: thanks [14:38] apw: the compiler is going to be uploaded a second time this week for multiarch bootstrapping [14:39] slangasek, any idea when as we have to rebuild for compiler uploads generally [14:40] hrm... is there a channel for webmasters? help.ubuntu.com seems to have a bug: it is stripping the '/' separator from the page title so Foo/Subpage is shown as just "FooSubpage" [14:40] psusi: #ubuntu-website [14:41] ahh ;) [14:41] apw: sometime late today or tomorrow-ish, as the current upload needs to finish building on armel and then I need to upload eglibc, followed by a new gcc-4.5 build once eglibc is installed [14:41] psusi: or you can file a bug against that project in LP [14:41] slangasek, so we are talking 2 days from now ish as armel takes 24 hours [14:42] slangasek, and is that it once the second one is done? [14:43] mvo: any thoughts on bug 735491 ? [14:43] Launchpad bug 735491 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt can't recover from file corruptions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735491 [14:45] barry: yeah, I had a idea how to fix it [14:46] is it a viable work around to mv the files aside until apt-get update doesn't fail? [14:46] apw: that'll be it from my side [14:46] barry: yeah, or remove them [14:46] slangasek, i guess i'll try and get an upload in the window while you are doing eglibc [14:47] mvo: cool, thanks. a very interesting problem (thank you hotel :) [14:47] heh :) [14:47] apw: would really be nice if someone would fix this misfeature that requires the exact same package version of the compiler :) [14:47] mvo: thanks! [14:48] slangasek, its not a miss feature, per see. its all about those damn external modules which have to be built with a compiler which optimises in the same way to ensure that the calling convention matches [14:49] and given even and ubuntu1 -> ubuntu2 change can bring an entire new linaro compiler into the mix, we have little choice but to use the full version string [14:50] if we could get rid of those modules we could remove the interaction all together [14:50] indeed if we don't rebuild, then we simply can lose the binary drivers, which doesn't affect me as my machine is all intel [14:52] mdz: ping? [14:57] dneary, hi === ogra is now known as Guest56191 === Guest56191 is now known as ogra_ === diwic is now known as diwic_afk === jjohansen is now known as jj-afk === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [15:38] charlie-tca: newly rsync'd desktop iso is still hanging for me in a vm. Do you still have trouble? [15:39] yup, but cjwatson said yesterday the fix won't be out until tomorrow now [15:40] hallyn: yesterday's log [15:40] it won't necessarily be fixed tomorrow, since I'm probably not going to squeeze in another ubiquity upload before going to bed [15:44] charlie-tca: i see, thanks. [15:45] pitti: tyvm for wine1.3 :) === herton_ is now known as herton === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [16:07] pitti, I have made changes in ui.py, also updated test_parse_argv_apport_bug() . Now I was trying to build it using bzr bd but it gives error. Or should I use setup.py ? === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [16:12] dholbach: hi! would it make sense for ubuntu-security-sponsors to be a member of ubuntu-reviewers? [16:12] abhinav-: trunk doesn't have any packaging; just run it straight from the build tree [16:13] abhinav-: PYTHONPATH=. gtk/apport-gtk --help [16:13] jdstrand, sure why not - nigelb: ^ [16:13] abhinav-: or if you just modified ui.py and nothing else, just PYTHONPATH=. ubuntu-bug ... === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [16:35] slangasek: hi there, I've been working on bug #728611 with Carl Milette who commented on related bug #727925. since you seem to have experience with plymouth, might you have a minute to help us get somekind of interactive session when plymouth is running? [16:35] Launchpad bug 728611 in plymouth (Ubuntu Natty) "[natty] text does not display in plymouth (disk check, passphrase prompts)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728611 [16:35] Launchpad bug 727925 in plymouth (Ubuntu Natty) "Kubuntu, when asking for encrypted fs password splash screen contains no instructions (dup-of: 728611)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727925 [16:43] what's the script you can use to find out what someone's upload rights are or packageset info and suchlike? [16:45] maco: edit-acl.py in ubuntu-archive-tools [16:45] er, I think that's with an underscore actually [16:46] ...thats not a package [16:47] lp:ubuntu-archive-tools [16:47] (bzr) [16:48] pitti, I am in my build tree and did PYTHONPATH=. gtk/apport-gtk --help but it is giving some errors: http://pastebin.com/LGNmTXpD [16:48] and the script is edit-acl.py [16:48] pitti, I am totally new to PYTHONPATH, so might be doing something wrong :( [16:49] no :( [16:50] got it [16:50] ghc's unix package changes ABI [16:50] but I need to upload a fix, but that would cause a transition [16:50] toy -o |_| pram === TheHarald is now known as apachelogger [16:55] Laney: you're a motu but not core-dev right? [16:56] correct [16:56] ah right, pure MOTUs in DMB have some extra permissions due to how the teams are set up (e.g. are also members of ~ubuntu-desktop) [16:57] geser: thats what i was about to point out [16:57] http://paste.ubuntu.com/580659/ [16:57] kubuntu-dev and ubuntu-server and such as well [16:58] maco: either take care that you don't use those rights by mistake or apply for core-dev :) [16:58] geser: hah im not applying for core-dev any time soon [16:58] kubuntu-dev i was gonna do at some point this year === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno === JayFo is now known as JFo [17:00] * micahg thought permission-wise DMB members are core-devs [17:01] micahg: DMB can add people to core-dev but hasn't upload right to main by definition === tarun_ is now known as c2tarun [17:02] geser: wasn't referring to actual rights (as in should do), but permissions (system allows) === jj-afk is now known as jjohansen [17:04] micahg: depends on how a team got set up: DMB is the owner of ~ubuntu-core-dev (but not an admin), for other package set teams, the dmb is not owner but only admin (and therefore also member) [17:05] geser: ah, so one of the owner/member bug was fixed? [17:06] owner doesn't grant upload permissions [17:06] only member does [17:06] I don't know about that bug [17:06] and admins are members, only the owner can not be a member but still add people to the team [17:06] geser: nevermind, not important === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [17:08] and as I don't fully understand how all this admin/owner thing in LP works, I don't touch teams unless necessary === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|break === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [17:23] I have integrated Wireless controller (connected with miniPCI) in my notebook. But the button, that should switch on it don't work. In windows I have to run special program to make this button work. I've written code that switch on wifi in ubuntu (that code uses /dev/ports), but I don't know how to hook this "wifi" key. What code in which package I may change to make it work properly? === sforshee is now known as sforshee-lunch [17:25] kees: where is your VCS branch for ubiquity 2.5.25? [17:26] I created a natty chroot in kubuntu on different partition, can I use that chroot from ubuntu? [17:27] cjwatson: I put it in the bzr tree mentioned in the debian/control file [17:27] cjwatson: iirc, ~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk [17:28] kees: it's not there [17:28] * kees scratches his head [17:28] if it had been I wouldn't be asking :-) [17:28] cjwatson: heh, right. let me check my tree, maybe it was a branch and not a checkout... [17:28] cr3: hi, what do you mean by 'interactive session'? [17:29] kees: could you push it under ~kees somewhere and I'll deal with merging it? [17:29] cjwatson: sure, one sec [17:29] cr3: I don't have much in the way of time to spend on plymouth right now; that bug needs fixing to be sure, but I'm not sure I'm going to be able to help much [17:30] cjwatson: yup, looks like it was a branch that never pushed. I've pushed it to lp:~kees/ubiquity/ver-2.5.25 now [17:32] kees: thanks, merged back now [17:32] cjwatson: cool; sorry about that glitch. [17:37] hallyn: fyi, will upload your libvirt change today. the debdiff was malformed, but I saw what you wanted to do. added another patch and running through qrt now [17:53] hallyn,charlie-tca: ubiquity 2.5.26 uploaded now [17:54] And that will fix the ubi-partman bug? [17:54] Thank You very much! [17:55] Evan committed a fix for that which is included [18:34] jdstrand: i had a libvirt change? [18:35] hallyn: yes, for the test suite [18:35] Replace 9024-skip-broken-commandtest.patch with 9024-fix-broken-commandtest.patch from upstream [18:35] hallyn: ^ [18:36] hallyn: you gave it to me a while ago, but I am only getting to it now [18:39] jdstrand: cool, thanks [18:42] cjwatson: nice war story re: debugging wubi! [18:43] achiang: it was an interesting ride [18:44] cjwatson: the closest i've come to that was debugging kexec bugs; luckily where i was, we had a custom in-house full-platform simulator that allowed single-stepping a CPU and poking at memory [18:45] cjwatson: i didn't have to deal with real mode though.... that sounds painful [18:45] once you figure out what's going on, it's a matter of keeping a clear head, but it does take a while [18:48] war story? [18:49] psusi: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/2011/03/15#2011-03-14-wubi-bug-693671 [18:50] slangasek: just wondering if I can drop to a shell from the cryptsetup script, adding /bin/sh before plymouth ask-for-password doesn't seem to work because, when I escape to the console, I see busybox but then it kicks me back to the graphical interface [18:51] slangasek: also, if you might happen to know on top of your head how to get ply_trace to show stuff on the console, maybe I could fallback to printf debugging [18:51] slangasek: I'll try not to take much of your time, mostly trying to refer to your experience without having you actually do anything :) [18:55] cr3: it's easier to use plymouth:debug=file:/dev/.initramfs/plymouth.debug (requires natty) [18:55] the console tends to scroll off too quickly [18:59] cjwatson: I've noticed that plymouth: option somewhere in the source, but I didn't see where to specify that [19:00] * cr3 is delving into plymouth for the first time, this is all new [19:06] cr3: specified on the kernel commandline [19:10] tedg: Hi Ted, did you see my new proposed solution to bug 636693? I believe it satisfies all the aspects we have discussed. [19:10] Launchpad bug 636693 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) "Premature lock when launching guest session" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636693 [19:10] tedg: Btw, is that dbus option by-passing /usr/share/gdm/guest-session/guest-session-launch? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === MacSlow|break is now known as MacSlow === kiwinote_ is now known as kiwinote === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === smb` is now known as smb [21:38] hello! while trying to update gst-plugins-base and -good, i'm getting a file collision that makes no sense to me: [21:38] dpkg: error processing gstreamer0.10-plugins-good_0.10.28-0ubuntu1+ti0.24.12_armel.deb (--install): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/ro/LC_MESSAGES/.mo', which is also in package libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 0.10.32-1ubuntu3+ti0.24.12 [21:41] what did i miss that is making the mo file (from the po/ directory) install without a package name? [22:05] after todays natty update, gdm doesn't come up again. anyone else experience this issue? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [22:31] bdrung: hm, that's with new upstart I presume. (but no, I don't see that - though my system is messed up anyway, but at least gdm comes up) [22:31] hallyn: yes, that was probably upstart. [22:32] Quite sure I've got that update, but I"ll go try another update to make sure [22:36] downgrading gdm didn't help [22:41] s/gdm/upstart [22:41] bdrung: it was a change in gdm's upstart config [22:43] broder: i downgraded gdm and now gdm comes up correctly. [22:44] broder: should i file a bug report or is there already one open? [22:45] bdrung: don't know, but the relevant change is connected to bug #436936 [22:45] Launchpad bug 436936 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu Karmic) "gdm upstart job checks /proc/cmdline for single user mode, won't start on post-boot runlevel change" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436936 [22:46] cjwatson: just to make sure, you've not beein looking at bug 717445 at all yet, right? [22:46] Launchpad bug 717445 in grub2 (Ubuntu Karmic) "grub2 in lucid doesn't work in qemu with '-vga std'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/717445 [22:46] (I intend to start looking in more detail at the guilty patch) [22:49] broder: probably. one change in the 2.32.0-0ubuntu10 upload is the reason. [23:21] hallyn: not really no, sorry [23:33] lamont, Are you around? If so, do you want to upload your bind9 package to lucid-proposed? Or would you prefer i did it? [23:41] * SpamapS just realized his compiz crashed 2 hours ago.. who needs a window manager when you've got 37 total inches of screen real estate? ;)