[09:23] <czajkowski> Aloha folks
[09:23] <czajkowski> how are we all todya
[09:25] <tdr112> hey czajkowski
[09:26] <czajkowski> tdr112: hows you? back in ireland?
[09:29] <tdr112> yep got back late on Sunday , great time
[09:34] <czajkowski> good stuff,
[09:34] <czajkowski> does it happen once a year?
[09:35] <tdr112> yep that was the 3rd one , there is talk of a smaller one in the uk again in june , near london i think
[09:40] <czajkowski> cool
[09:40] <czajkowski> might see if they are interested in coming along to the next oggcamp that is being planned
[09:41] <tdr112> ebel: would you know how to get a big map of ireland like an svg or some thing a0 size with just the county lines
[09:55] <davem> tdr112: open streetmap?
[09:55] <czajkowski> davem: hey hey
[09:55] <czajkowski> hows you
[09:56] <davem> tired
[09:57] <davem> in work etc ;)
[09:57] <czajkowski> diddums
[09:57] <czajkowski> Keith is coming over here for the weekend
[09:57] <davem> rawr
[09:57] <davem> :p
[09:58] <czajkowski> and sorcha
[09:58] <czajkowski> he came on the ber in Brussels also
[09:58] <davem> yeah was chatting to Niall about it
[09:58] <czajkowski> great way for my bf to meet people , bring the irish piss heads
[09:58] <czajkowski> poor guy and his mates were well thrown with the accents, there were a few of us from ireland
[09:58] <ebel> tdr112: you /can/ export an OSM view from the webpage into an image
[09:59] <ebel> but that's everything
[10:00] <tdr112> ebel: could i get just ireland ?
[10:01] <ebel> then you can get just the counties here http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/?zoom=7&lat=53.55822&lon=-7.84204&layers=0B00FFFFFFFTFFFF
[10:01] <ebel> (but dunno if you can export)
[10:01] <ebel> I think there are county SVG files on wikipedia or something
[10:02] <ebel> The OSM export includes all features incl roads, and works on a box, so you'll probably get a bit of scotland in order to get all of donegal & down in
[10:02] <czajkowski> tdr112: what are you up to
[10:03] <ebel> Of course it is possible to export the data from OSM (using XAPI) then import it into a desktop GIS (geographical information system) application like QGIS and then you can control exactly what to do
[10:03] <ebel> But that's very hard and complex and would take me a few hours :P
[10:03] <tdr112> thinking of making a poster/sign of all the hackerspaces in Ireland printing it to A1 puting an led where each one is and 2d bar codes with links to their web sites , its for an event coming up in a few weeks
[10:04] <tdr112> ebel: na no need for that
[10:06] <ebel> tdr112: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Island_of_Ireland_location_map.svg ?
[10:06] <ebel> or http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ireland_location_map.svg
[10:06] <czajkowski> tdr112: sweet
[10:08] <tdr112> ebel: thanks they will do nicely
[10:11] <tdr112> anyone know a good site for doing qr/2d barcodes
[13:36] <czajkowski> ebel: slashtom ye safe to travel to Oz soon  with Japan being the way it is ?
[13:39] <slashtom> aye, aparently we will be exposed to a lot of radiation as part of regular air travel
[13:39] <slashtom> which happens for every flight everywhere
[13:40] <czajkowski> but surely more so at this time considering the current climate
[13:40] <slashtom> why?
[13:40] <czajkowski> Japan
[13:40] <ebel> earthquakes have nothing to do with climate
[13:40] <slashtom> hopefully the japanese won't plant any nuclear bombs on our plane
[13:40] <slashtom> that would be very mean
[13:41] <czajkowski> I thought with the nuclear power plant issues
[13:42] <slashtom> i think the plane uses jet fuel
[13:42] <slashtom> derived from oil, iirc
[13:42] <czajkowski> fair enough
[13:43] <slashtom> at that altitude, you would be harmed far more by the sun light
[13:43] <ebel> czajkowski: you get 100 uSv of radiation from a long flight like that
[13:43] <ebel> czajkowski: those radiation plants are putting out about 1,000 -> 100,000 uSv of radiation if you stand next to them.
[13:43] <slashtom> however, ebel is wanting to ride through chernobyl
[13:44] <ebel> and remember radiation disperses with distance. so you double the distance between you and the thing, and you get 4 times less radiation (inverse square law)
[13:45] <slashtom> we'll be grand :)
[13:45] <czajkowski> grand so
[13:46] <ebel> 100 uSv of radiation is about as dangerous as smoking 1.4 cigarettes
[13:46] <ebel> eating 10 bananas gives you 1 uSv.
[13:46] <ebel> This is all being blown MASSIVELY out of proportion.
[13:48] <ebel> and remember the nuclear reactor has been shut off.
[13:49] <ebel> nuclear reactors turn uranium into other radioactive stuff which turns into non radioactive stuff.
[13:49] <ebel> the uranium part was turned off seconds after the earthquake. It's the intermediate stuff that's left
[13:49] <ebel> and that'll all turn into non-radioactive stuff naturally over time.
[13:51] <ebel> this is not another chernobyl, it's massivelly different,.
[14:27] <f3d> Event coming up on April 16 that should be of interestEvent coming up on April 16 that should be of interest. http://www.engineersireland.ie/cpd/cpd-training/courses/it-crowd-seminar/ Trying to organise a good prize for a competition on the day.. http://www.engineersireland.ie/cpd/cpd-training/courses/it-crowd-seminar/ Trying to organise a good prize for a competition on the day.
[14:54] <tdr112> hey frank
[14:56] <ebel> yo yo
[15:01] <f3d> Hi Jeffrey, sorry, was away on another window
[15:03] <tdr112> what sort of competition  is it going to be
[15:10] <czajkowski> whoo  I get to go to ireland on Monday for the day
[15:11] <slashtom> in and out on the same day?
[15:11] <tdr112> just dublin ?
[15:16] <czajkowski> yup
[15:16] <czajkowski> in and out for presentations and gone again
[15:16] <tdr112> ah no tie to meet up
[15:16] <czajkowski> I dont think so
[15:16] <czajkowski> meeting finishes @ 4 and ferry at 9
[15:17] <slashtom> ferry!
[15:17] <slashtom> you're taking no chances?
[15:18] <czajkowski> nope
[15:18] <czajkowski> but also easiest and fastest way for us to get there
[15:18] <slashtom> you travelling alone?
[15:18] <czajkowski> nope myself and CEO
[15:18] <slashtom> ferry at 9... holyhead at midnight
[15:18] <slashtom> then a 5 hour drive
[15:19] <tdr112> czajkowski: did you get a car over there
[15:19] <czajkowski> nope
[15:19] <czajkowski> boss lives down near Bristol
[15:19] <czajkowski> so bristol to Holyhead is not far
[15:20] <slashtom> lol
[15:20] <slashtom> it's a 4-5 hour drive
[15:21] <slashtom> i took that 9pm ferry before, i got to cheltenham (an hour before bristol) at about 4am
[15:21] <slashtom> there are no motorways through wales, you have to go toward manchester then via birmingham
[15:22] <czajkowski> 1.5hrs on the ferry
[15:23] <slashtom> http://maps.cloudmade.com/?lat=51.727028&lng=-3.054199&zoom=7&directions=53.30903170363969,-4.628591537475586,51.45732284495817,-2.5932884216308594&travel=car&styleId=1&opened_tab=1
[15:23] <slashtom> but that's no accurate, it is routing you down the A5 - through snowdonia and loaded with speed cameras
[15:23] <slashtom> not accurate*
[15:24] <czajkowski> nods
[15:24] <czajkowski> so a better route??
[15:25] <slashtom> i would go along the A55 and get off near crewe, head down to nantwich and join the M6
[15:25] <slashtom> then hope on the M5, and you're there
[15:25] <slashtom> longer, but much faster roads
[15:26] <delcoyote> put your foot down! :-)
[15:26] <slashtom> but i presume your guy there knows the area
[15:27] <czajkowski> aye
[15:28] <slashtom> http://maps.cloudmade.com/?lat=52.492815&lng=-2.861938&zoom=9&directions=53.293130787340516,-4.61151123046875,53.156858919018774,-2.8973007202148438,53.064944749645356,-2.3315048217773438,52.53371480958668,-1.9702434539794922,51.44373668041616,-2.57904052734375&travel=car&styleId=1&opened_tab=1 - that's more like it, much faster
[15:30] <slashtom> at that time of night, you can comfortably cruise along the M6 and M5 at 150 (or at least that's what i would do)
[15:30] <slashtom> :P
[15:30] <czajkowski> nods
[15:30] <slashtom> enjoy
[15:30] <slashtom> i'm surprised you're not coming here for saturday ;)
[15:31] <czajkowski> nope
[15:31] <czajkowski> have organised a massive meet up
[15:39] <ebel> we used to fly bristol/dublin all the time
[15:39] <ebel> looks like you'll be driving the length and breath of wales
[15:39] <czajkowski> in an audi I dont mind
[15:42] <slashtom> ebel: fsck wales, it's better to head straight for england
[15:42] <slashtom> better roads :P
[15:42] <slashtom> there's even a Bristol/Shannon route ;)
[15:44] <ebel> also remember slashtom can drive relatively fast.
[15:44] <ebel> :P
[15:46] <slashtom> ebel: my last car only had a top speed of 190
[15:46] <slashtom> i just tended to drive quickly in it
[15:46] <slashtom> and agressively...
[15:46] <slashtom> much like an audi driver :P
[17:30] <tdr112> anyone run tomcat
[20:40] <airurando> Hi all
[20:40] <airurando> czajowski is currently on the live uupc show
[20:40] <airurando> link:
[20:41] <airurando> http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org:8000/uupc.mp3