[02:40] <jbicha> hi, I'd like to request a FFE for bug 735133 but am unsure about the process I need to follow
[03:03] <micahg> jbicha: subscribe ubuntu-release and give an FFe explanation in teh description
[03:07] <jbicha> micahg: thanks
[08:33] <dholbach> good morning
[09:08] <LLStarks> deluge is still segfaulting on natty
[09:09] <LLStarks> time to debug
[10:02] <iulian> Morning dholbach!
[10:28] <dholbach> hi iulian
[10:56] <Hans-Bit> Hi, hat Apache ne API ? Also ich möchte auf meine mercurial webseite meiendomain/hg ...  gerne anzeigen, mit was fürn user man gerade eingeloggt ist... kann ich per apache irgendwie den Username auslesen und ausgeben?
[10:57] <Hans-Bit> (mein mercurial ist an apache gebunden....also die userverwaltung läuft über apache)
[10:57] <Hans-Bit> oh only english here? :D
[10:59] <dholbach> Hans-Bit, this is an english speaking channel and focused on package maintenance / ubuntu development
[10:59] <dholbach> maybe the guys in #ubuntu-server (or #ubuntu) can help (also english) - or try #ubuntu-de
[11:03] <Hans-Bit> I configure mercurial (with apache)... I want show the current (apache) logged user on my mercurial-website (../hg).. is it possible ?
[11:04] <dholbach> Hans-Bit, as I said above: this might not be the best channel to ask your question
[11:05] <Hans-Bit> Hm ok
[11:05] <Hans-Bit> thanks
[11:39] <jbicha> hi, I was wanting to fix a small bug in banshee but whoever did the last upload did not use bzr, how can this be fixed?
[11:39] <Laney> jbicha: get the source from Debian's git please (or better, upstream) unless the fix cannot go there
[11:41] <jbicha> Laney: I mean 1.9.5 is the current published Natty version but the bzr trunk is still back at 1.9.4
[11:42] <Laney> don't know why that is, but I'm just advising you (as part of the maintenance team) that most fixes should be done upstream :-)
[11:42] <jbicha> right, but I believe bug 735372 is Ubuntu specific
[11:43] <Laney> oh ok
[11:44] <Laney> I don't know which package controls that setting, you could ask in #ubuntu-desktop
[13:08] <jbicha> could someone take a look at bug 735372 for me?
[13:26] <Laney> jbicha: the rb default is in /u/s/gconf/defaults/10_libgnome2-common
[13:28] <jbicha> Laney: yes but my patch does basically the same thing ubuntu-artwork does
[13:29] <Laney> I'm suggesting that libgnome2-common is the place to fix this
[13:30] <Laney> laney@chicken> grep -r rhythmbox *                                                                                             ~/temp/libgnome-2.32.1/debian
[13:30] <Laney> libgnome2-common.gconf-defaults:/desktop/gnome/applications/media/exec              rhythmbox
[13:31] <jbicha> yes I looked at libgnome2 first but Ubuntu doesn't customize anything there but does customize in /usr/share/gconf/defaults
[13:33] <jbicha> I tested my fix and it does override the lignome2 default
[14:07] <jbicha> Laney: ok, I submitted the new merge proposal which was a lot easier to fix than the way I did it first
[14:07] <Laney> :-)
[14:07] <Laney> it's in main though so I can't sponsor it
[14:08] <Laney> if you just subscribe the sponsors then it will be dealt with soon
[14:08] <Laney> thanks for your contribution!
[14:09] <jbicha> done and thank you too
[15:34] <artfwo> what is the rule for naming shared library packages like libfoo0c2 or zlib1g?
[15:36] <sladen> artfwo: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-runtime
[15:37] <sladen> artfwo: it's to ensure ABI version differences
[15:43] <artfwo> sladen, I've read it through (together with libpkg-guide). but now I'm working on an orphaned debian package, which installs a shared library libadplug-2.2.1.so.0, yet the package is named libadplug0c2 - I cannot figure out the connection between library version and package name
[15:45] <artfwo> unless I rename the package to "libadplug-2.2.1", I get a scary lintian warning package-name-doesnt-match-sonames
[15:46] <sladen> artfwo: the 'c2' was to do with the GCC-4.0 C++ ABI change.  but I think that was being phased out after the change-over in 2006 (?)
[15:46] <micahg> artfwo: it's probably complaining since the library name is versioned (2.2.1)  and the package isn't
[15:46] <sladen> cjwatson: ^^ do you remember anything about the C++ "c2" ABI change?
[15:47] <cjwatson> only distantly; it's not needed for new packages
[15:47] <cjwatson> it should be preserved if it's already there
[15:55] <Guest95966> sorry this may not be the proper channel for this but how can I switch b/w channels on irssi :( I am asking this because I dont know how to switch
[15:59] <artfwo> sladen, right I've found a revelant changelog entry. the c2a suffix was added to fix debian bug 339143. but should I stick with the same package name when upgrading to a newer upstream version? (no ABI breaks)
[16:35] <khrm> Guest95966 what client are you using to connect.
[17:23] <c2tarun> I created a natty chroot in kubuntu on different partition, can I use that chroot from ubuntu?
[17:24] <sladen> artfwo: sounds like it has been fixed?  What is it that you're working on that's that old?
[17:27] <Bachstelze> c2tarun: yes, packaging-wise there is absolutely no difference betweek ubuntu and kubuntu
[17:28] <c2tarun> Bachstelze, I copied that chroot into my ubuntu partition with cp -rp command and I also copied schroot.conf and now when I am getting into it by schroot -c natty and executing rmadison kdepim command there I am getting this error curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'people.canonical.com'
[17:31] <Bachstelze> c2tarun: you didn't need to copy it in the first place, but check your resolv.conf
[17:32] <c2tarun> Bachstelze, if I put the location of that partition into schroot.conf will it work properly then?
[17:32] <Bachstelze> c2tarun: or maybe schroot needs something special, I don't use it so I don't know
[21:21] <benste1> hi, wanted to report a packaging bug but "newsapp"="daily-journal" is not a genuie ubunut poackage
[21:21] <benste1> could someone resolve the following error pls
[21:21] <benste1> daily-journal: Depends: python (< 2.7) but 2.7.1-0ubuntu5 is to be installed
[21:23] <StevenK> benste1: You need to talk to the person that created the daily-journal package.
[21:24] <benste1>  Rick Spencer <rick.spencer@canonical.com>
[21:24] <benste1> -- will send him a mail
[21:24] <benste1> StevenK: thanks for the information
[21:24] <StevenK> It likely just needs to be re-uploaded to his PPA.
[21:27] <Ampelbein> fwiw, it's in the extras.ubuntu.com repository, I don't know if there's a special contact address for them?
[21:27] <StevenK> Ah. Personally, I am not sure myself.
[21:35] <LLStarks> hi, i'm trying to backtrace deluge, which is now crashing  upon launch in natty. what should i feed to gdb?
[22:21] <RAOF> LLStarks: deluge is python, right?
[22:22] <LLStarks> yeah
[22:22] <LLStarks> segfaulting hard
[22:22] <RAOF> LLStarks: You'll want to run “gdb python” and then “run /path/to/deluge”
[22:22] <LLStarks> i'll need python-dbgsym/dbg or deluge symbols?
[22:26] <RAOF> Deluge won't have symbols, unless it's got a native component.
[22:26] <RAOF> I'd just run it and see where it dies; the backtrace will probably give you a good idea of what symbols you need :)
[23:36] <kklimonda> how strict is FF for univers? Is it "every new feature must go through the release team" or rather "use your head, stupid"?
[23:37] <kklimonda> actually, how strict is it for "main", and is there any difference?
[23:37] <kklimonda> also, probably s/universe/unseeded/ would make more sense
[23:38] <micahg> kklimonda: every feature needs to go through the release team
[23:38] <kklimonda> ok, thanks
[23:38] <micahg> kklimonda: it's more likely to be granted for a universe leaf package vs something in main though
[23:55] <ScottK> kklimonda: As micahg says.