[00:00] <needlez> how can i make it so that a file can be read by anyone but only written to by root and by my script??
[00:00] <Yoinx> the script would be ran with the user permissions... unless you're running the script as root.
[00:04] <needlez> the script is ran with user permissions, so can I make it so that everyone can read but only root can write ?? or is that just not possible??
[00:05] <shcherbak> needlez: first: sudo chown root fileName
[00:05] <erkan^> hello, can picasa.deb support for dutch language? because i see that is english language only :/
[00:05] <Yoinx> needlez yeah, you can do it so everyone could read, and only root could write
[00:06] <Yoinx> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[00:06] <shcherbak> second: sudo chmod 704 fileName
[00:06] <JDipper> Can anyone help me try to install the PECL/Haru extension?
[00:06] <shcherbak> needlez: third: man chown && man chmod
[00:08] <needlez> schcherbak: I did that chown root fileName already then chmod 644 the only problem is that the script that is ran to modify the file doesn't modify the file. How can I make the script which is ran at startup able to modify it too
[00:09] <shcherbak> needlez: via crontab, use @boot for root crontab (this you modify via sudo)
[00:09] <needlez> what is crontab and how can I use that?? with the script I created explain please
[00:10] <shcherbak> !cron
[00:11] <erkan^> !picasa
[00:11] <Yoinx> !pizza
[00:11] <Yoinx> Poor bot, doesn't know about pizza :(
[00:11] <shcherbak> ubottu: tell Yoinx about bot
[00:11] <needlez> really pizza ...lol
[00:11] <penos> ubottu: i love you
[00:11] <JDipper> Anyone?
[00:12] <shcherbak> !love
[00:12] <penos> ubottu: do you love me?
[00:12] <Yoinx> needlez, you would just put the script into crontab.
[00:12] <Stryker> how do i make my computer recognize the onboard sound card
[00:12] <needlez> ok thanx
[00:12] <penos> ubottu: kneel before my eyes
[00:12] <Yoinx> just read the guide first so you have the right format
[00:12] <penos> what kind of nick is fisted?
[00:14] <masterjp> по русски ктото говорит?
[00:14] <penos> is that russian?
[00:14] <masterjp> yes
[00:14] <shcherbak> !ru > masterjp
[00:14] <JDipper> Well, that's a shame
[00:15] <JDipper> On to the next distrib...
[00:15] <penos> !ru > penos
[00:15] <amh345> hey guys, im having a hell of a time encrypting a file with gpg.  lets say i have abc.txt and i want to gpg with test.asc , does anyone know how it's done?   i've gotten tied up on every piece of information i can find online.  any help would be greatly appreciated.
[00:16] <penos> ubottu: i love you
[00:16] <penos> is there a channel where i can have a conversation with a bot?
[00:17] <Stryker> yeah
[00:17] <penos> where?
[00:17] <Stryker> "/msg ubottu"
[00:17] <penos> ubottu: shut up
[00:18] <penos> huh?
[00:18] <Pici> !msgthebot
[00:19] <nellwee> not sure how or what i did but every time I click on my dockuments folder or downloads it gives me a window with  a photo in a photo viewer and I cant access any files....how do I fix it?
[00:20] <penos> ubottu: i love you
[00:20] <Stryker> when i type alsamixer i get cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[00:20] <penos> ubottu: shut up
[00:20] <penos> ?
[00:20] <nellwee> my home folder takes me to firefox_wallpapers.png
[00:23] <shentino> lmao
[00:23] <shentino> ubottu: i hate you
[00:23] <fadax> Hi
[00:23] <shentino> ubottu: will you marry me?
[00:23] <fadax> How do I restore my grub bootloader from ubuntu livecd?
[00:24] <fadax> Having installed windows which removed it
[00:24] <shentino> actually ubottu, declining marriage is a sign of intelligence
[00:24] <shentino> *badum PSH*
[00:24] <XuMuK> куу
[00:24] <fadax> I have tried Sudo grub from the livecd but it says grub not found and I don't have the Internet to apt-get it
[00:25] <shentino> !ru | XuMuK
[00:25] <Yoinx> !grub
[00:25] <Stryker> when i type alsamixer i get cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[00:25] <penos> !sarahconnor
[00:26] <Yoinx> hmm, thought it would have the recovery link... fadax , the cd should have grub on it somewhere... since it installs it.
[00:26] <XuMuK> shentino: thx Cap, I just confused the tabs...
[00:26] <will> Is there a basic Ubuntu goof off chat channel? If so, can someone redirect me to it please?
[00:26] <shentino> oh, oops
[00:27] <manlymatt83> What's the channel for 11.04?
[00:27] <shentino> that k looked cyrillic, so I made a wild guess
[00:27] <nellwee> when i go to places in ubuntu and click on home folder or dockuments or music or videos they all link to photo viewer with a photo or firefox_wallpapers.png  . dose anyone know how to fix this?
[00:27] <Stryker> #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:27] <Stryker> will
[00:27] <will> Thank you Stryker.
[00:27] <Stryker> np
[00:32] <Stryker> awquard silence?
[00:32] <Stryker> awkward silence?
[00:32] <Yoinx> It's odd.... Guess everyone's ubuntu is going GREAT.
[00:32] <Stryker> not mine
[00:32] <linuxuz3r> hmmm
[00:32] <Stryker> my onboard chip is not recognized
[00:32] <linuxuz3r> h,,,
[00:32] <linuxuz3r> hhmmm
[00:32] <linuxuz3r> hi Stryker
[00:33] <Yoinx> what chip?
[00:33] <Stryker> realtek ac'97
[00:33] <Stryker> sound card
[00:33] <Stryker> !realtek ac'97
[00:33] <abstrakt> Stryker, hmm, pretty common chip, odd that it wouldn't be recognized
[00:33] <Stryker> i agree abstrakt
[00:33] <nellwee> anyone know what would cause my home folder is linked to another program or file
[00:33] <abstrakt> anyone here have suggestions for an open source web control panel?
[00:34] <Yoinx> are you using wubi stryker?
[00:34] <abstrakt> mostly I want my users to be able to manage their email accounts: add and remove email accounts and change passwords
[00:34] <abstrakt> that's about it really
[00:34] <Polah> Nellwee: pastebin the contents of /home/<username>/.gtk-bookmarks please
[00:34] <abstrakt> I can handle the rest on my own for the most part
[00:34] <Stryker> no, im using genuine primary partitioned maverick
[00:34] <abstrakt> *maybe* add databases and SSL certificates
[00:34] <ExplodingPiglets> google chrome keeps flashing.
[00:34] <ExplodingPiglets> is this a problem with ubuntu?
[00:34] <ExplodingPiglets> It is giving me a seizure
[00:34] <Stryker> !ac'97
[00:34] <Yoinx> abstrakt, just take one that you know of and google "whatever ubuntu alternatives"
[00:35] <Scunizi> Yoinx: I found the answer to my usb headset problem.. On initial inspection all output volume controls were up.. however I forgot about the cli alsamixer (why that takes control over the other volume controls including pulseaudio's pavucontrol I don't know.... )
[00:35] <dassouki> i just added a bounty to this question. I was wondering if anyone could help http://http://askubuntu.com/questions/29269/change-x-settings-to-boot-into-laptop-with-non-working-screen-using-an-external-m
[00:35] <dassouki> oops double http:// sorrry
[00:35] <masterjp> .дшые
[00:35] <Yoinx> ahh, good that you got it fixed though Scunizi
[00:35] <nellwee> Polah,  if I access the folders that way I can see my files but when I try from places it links to something different
[00:36] <Yoinx> dass, are you just trying to recover files?
[00:36] <tripelb> OK my icons are tooo big (Ub10.04) and I want to make them smaller. Not individually, all at once. I forget how. Please tell me. TY
[00:37] <Polah> Nellwee: .gtk-bookmarks is what controls the linking of the Places menu. Pastebin the contents of it and link me pelase
[00:37] <Stryker> alsamixer gives me this message:cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[00:37] <Polah> please*
[00:37] <fadax> Yoinx I mounted my root of my proper ubuntu installation in /mnt/root , so now im trying sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /mnt/root/dev --recheck.   But it gives the error /mnt/root/dev is not a block device
[00:37] <fadax> What am I doing wrong?
[00:38] <Yoinx> dont you have to chroot or something for that fadax?
[00:38] <tripelb> ps "system > preferences > appearances" is not the place to make all the icons on the desktop smaller. It sounded right but it's not there.
[00:38] <Yoinx> fadax, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:39] <will> sudo apt-get install alsa-utils could help you out on yoru missing alsamixer issue.
[00:40] <nellwee> Polah,  went to that location and did not see the .gtk-bookmarks
[00:40] <YertleTheTurtle> Is it possible to run the equivalent of a chkdsk command from my ubuntu partition on my windows partition?
[00:40] <Scunizi> will: do we actually need alsamixer with the controls under 'Properties' and after installing pavucontrol??
[00:40] <Yoinx> linux cant scan a windows partition
[00:40] <edbian> YertleTheTurtle, You could use gparted but linux is not good at checking NTFS partitions
[00:40] <nellwee> I alos cant see my active windows in lower pannel
[00:40] <gumus> hi all! what was the command for launching eboard? It's been a while since i played chess at FICS . can't remember how i had launched it :D ...any ideas?
[00:40] <Scunizi> will: they seem to interfear with each other some
[00:40] <Yoinx> well, I guess it can.. but you shouldnt.
[00:41] <Polah> Nellwee: /home/<username>, press Ctrl+H to show hidden fiels
[00:41] <will> Scunizi: I would not be able to tell you. I have only been in the battle between ALSA and Pulse-Audio.
[00:41] <YertleTheTurtle> edbian, I see. Its not booting so I can get chkdsk running, so anything would be helpful I guess
[00:41] <will> Scunizi: I have still yet to accomplish a global control over ALSA without having Pulse-Audio installed.
[00:41] <edbian> YertleTheTurtle, You can use gparted.  I don't think it's capable of fixing problems it finds.  You need a windows xp disk  (or 7 or whatever you have)
[00:41] <gumus> hello ? can anyone help?
[00:42] <Yoinx> yertle, if you have a windows disk you could build a PE from it so that you could scan it reliably
[00:42] <edbian> YertleTheTurtle, Alternatively, you could get all the data off the ntfs partition, clobber it, and use Linx Exclusively
[00:42] <YertleTheTurtle> edbian, eh dont' want to. thanks
[00:42] <Polah> Nellwee: For that, right click the panel > add to panel > Window List
[00:42] <YertleTheTurtle> edbian, only use it for games, got tired of fucking with wine.
[00:42] <Scunizi> will: yea.. me too.. I suddenly had my USB headset speaker volume reduced to near nothing and was pulling my hair out because all gui accessable volume controls were all the way up.. somehow alsa-mixer was turned almost all the way down for output.. AND it only affected my USB headset.. not my speakers.. weird.
[00:42] <YertleTheTurtle> the hdd is on its way out, i just need to replace it
[00:42] <will> NTFS - Their is no equivalent yet to chkdsk/scandisk for NTFS in linux.
[00:42] <fadax> Yoinx ok im trying to follow that guide but now I've mounted the drive it gives the wrong output.. How do I unmount it?
[00:42] <edbian> YertleTheTurtle, Then get a windows CD
[00:42] <YertleTheTurtle> its in the other room (I think)
[00:43] <Yoinx> umount
[00:43] <gumus> does anyone know how to laucnh the eboard ? I want to play chess but forgot the command to run
[00:43] <nellwee> Polah,  still cant find .gtk-bookmarks .  It did show me all hidden files just not that one
[00:43] <Yoinx> fadax, you might be better off just rebooting and starting fresh following the guide
[00:44] <Yoinx> YertleTheTurtle, what everyone is getting at... is even if you're able to find some way to scan the disk... linux doesn't really support it.. so you risk data loss.
[00:44] <edbian> nellwee, it is a file, not a folder.  Try this: gedit ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[00:44] <fadax> Oh ok ill do that... I was just trying to avoid waiting for the livecd again!   Thanks for the help
[00:45] <will> Make sure you use your proper OS disc for scanning of an NTFS partition. Misuse will corrupt data and possibly the partition itself.
[00:45] <Yoinx> np, fadax... just dont know what you've done and you probably don't wanna mess anything up
[00:46] <beacher> hi all,good morning
[00:46] <nellwee> http://pastebin.com/dYdE42C1
[00:46] <will> Only system other than an NTFS based OS that can securely check the disc integrity of an NTFS partition is a Macintosh with NTFS 3G installed.
[00:47] <will> You MAY be able to find some sort of application or software that is Linux/Ubuntu compatible that has the same features of NTFS 3G.
[00:47] <edbian> will, Is there a difference between NTFS-3g on Mac than the NTFS-3g on linux?
[00:48] <will> Yes.
[00:48] <will> Mac's version costs money and has extra features.
[00:49] <nellwee> Polah,  http://pastebin.com/dYdE42C1
[00:49] <root__> my backtrack dont work
[00:50] <Polah> Nellwee: and they don't go to your Documents folder and such like?
[00:50] <lahwran> greetings Senix
[00:50] <Polah> Your places should be, in this order: Home Folder, Desktop, Documents, Music, Pictures, Videos, Downloads and they should all link to the correct places listed on gtk-bookmarks
[00:51] <nellwee> Polah,  no they link to other stuff.. but I can open compter and filesystem and home folder and view everything
[00:51] <cjae> is there something wrong with vbox in 10.10? I have been getting kernel panics while trying to run linux from scratch in vbox
[00:51] <chamunks> Does anyone know of a piece of software for ubuntu that will handle where my downloads go on a rule set basis?  So like I download any Picture format Jpg Png Bmp.. etc and it will move that completed download automatically to my Pictures folder and same thing with documents and software installs etc..
[00:51] <edbian> will, The proprietary version is called Tuxera NTFS.  NTFS-3g is the free version.  However apparently the names are inter-changeable (which is confusing)
[00:51] <edbian> chamunks, That would be a setting in your browser.  I'm not aware of anything like that.
[00:52] <will> edbian: Understandable. And that explains alot. But it doesn't explain why they charged me for the KEXT for it in Mac... *Must have been a greedy guy*
[00:52] <Polah> Nellwee: Sounds like a strange configuration error with GNOME
[00:52] <edbian> will, It's a bit of a mess: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS-3G
[00:53] <overclucker> !backtrack > root__
[00:53] <nellwee> Polah,  if I click places then home folder I get firefox_wallpaper.png
[00:53] <will> Tuxera NTFS 3G for Mac - 34.93 USD
[00:53] <will> Yeah, they only charge for Mac.
[00:54] <Hodr> hi guys, How do I make my Nameserver allow access to my sites from LAN and WAN at the same time?
[00:54] <will> The NTFS 3G in Mac OS is modified to a serious extent.
[00:55] <edbian> will, I learned something new tonight! :)
[00:55] <will> I have been able to modify alot of settings to a NTFS partition with it.
[00:55] <abstrakt> and it sucks
[00:55] <abstrakt> NTFS on mac totally fucked the new HD I bought
[00:55] <will> edbian: Yeah. Mac sucks money right out of your wallet, haha.
[00:55] <nellwee> Polah,  thanks for scratching your head on this one  lol not sure how it happened
[00:56] <Hodr> If my A record points to my LAN IP, I can only visit my site locally, but if I set it to the WAN IP, I can only access it from a seperate network.
[00:56] <abstrakt> will, conversely, linux sucks time right out of your life, so... take your pick
[00:56] <will> I have nothing but time!
[00:56] <Polah> Nellwee, I'm not too sure then. I'll take a guess at it being a GNOME configuration error or being generally broken. So you could make start by reinstall GNOME, but I'm really not too sure.
[00:56] <will> Just not time to blow money on Mac.
[00:56] <edbian> Hodr, You should have your router port forward connections coming from the Internet.
[00:56] <abstrakt> will, you have no food or money or wiminz?
[00:56] <abstrakt> bummer
[00:56] <will> 1 woman and 2 kids.
[00:56] <nellwee> Polah,  how would I re install gnome
[00:57] <will> I take my Ubuntu break every now and then.
[00:57] <abstrakt> will, married? mmm, that doesn't count
[00:57] <will> Otherwise i might go insane.
[00:57] <nellwee> Polah,  ill try anything before I re install whole pc
[00:57] <will> No no no... I shall never fall into that trap.
[00:57] <abstrakt> mac is for trustafarians who go like "omg, look my computer matches my shoooes!"
[00:58] <dagnachewa> anyone here installed rstudio ?
[00:58] <Polah> Nellwee: You don't need to reinstall everything to reinstall gnome
[00:58] <will> Mac has better gaming support with Wine than Linux does.
[00:58] <abstrakt> dunno what rstudio is, I've install ubuntu-studio though
[00:58] <Polah> Abstrakt: If your shoes are made out of unibody aluminium
[00:58] <will> Which REALLY sucks.
[00:58] <abstrakt> will, hahah, saying that mac or linux has "any" gaming support is a joke
[00:58] <Polah> Nellwee: I'd assume you would do sudo apt-get remove gnome2 and then the same but with install and then configure
[00:58] <abstrakt> that's the one place really where windows still shines
[00:58] <Polah> I'm not sure, I've never done it. Best to ask someone else
[00:59] <abstrakt> windows for games, mac for video editing and linux for everything else
[00:59] <will> I have played Fallout 3 in Mac. I can't even support it at all in Win.
[00:59] <abstrakt> well, mac/win for netflix, but you can do that in a virtual machine in ubuntu
[00:59] <Fluttershy> emulate a Wii
[00:59] <Fluttershy> A+ solution
[00:59] <abstrakt> will, you must have some crappy windows hardware then
[00:59] <will> Intel 4500MHD.>.>
[00:59] <will> You tell me.
[01:00] <abstrakt> derp, dunno what that is
[01:00] <abstrakt> mobo chipset?
[01:00] <will> It's a major upgrade from my old Intel 950 GMA though.
[01:00] <abstrakt> gfx card? if it's a graphix card, and it's intel, you're asking for trouble already
[01:00] <will> Yep.
[01:00] <will> Laptop though.
[01:00] <will> And a cheap one at that.
[01:00] <abstrakt> ah, there's your second problem
[01:00] <abstrakt> and third
[01:00] <abstrakt> respectively
[01:01] <will> I enjoy modifying my software to adapt to it's hardware. So it doesn't bother me too much.
[01:01] <TravelingMonkey> does anybody know how to print an A4 document to US letter size paper in Ubuntu?
[01:02] <nellwee> Polah,  http://pastebin.com/aFzW2pMQ
[01:02] <TravelingMonkey> i figured this would be straightforward, but i couldnt find any control for it
[01:02] <nellwee> Polah,  what did I do wrong
[01:02] <nellwee> lol
[01:02] <TravelingMonkey> and i cant think what to search for on the net
[01:02] <dagnachewa> hello everyone
[01:02] <dagnachewa> is there a vaillant archer to help me ? I get http://pastebin.com/e8Cv1Ym2 when trying to install rstudio hereis my ld.so.conf http://paste.pocoo.org/show/353785/ here is my $PATH http://pastebin.com/vd5sCG7T please help
[01:02] <Polah> Uhh
[01:03] <Polah> You didn't have gnome in the first place
[01:03] <fadax> Yoinx I followed the guide but when I do grub install it says : attempting to install grub to a partition instead of
[01:03] <Polah> remove gnome, leave gnome2
[01:03] <fadax> The mbr
[01:03] <Hodr> edbian My router is forwarding the http and dns ports to my server
[01:04] <Polah> Nellwee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178720
[01:04] <edbian> Hodr, Then your DNS server should be telling incoming connections to go to your router
[01:04] <fadax> Then it says embedding is not possible. Grub can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. Use --force to use them (not recommended)
[01:04] <edbian> Hodr, Cause you are doing NAT (because your ISP only gave you one IP address)
[01:04] <fadax> What should I do?
[01:06] <edbian> Hodr, Because you are doing NAT all the DNS tells WAN connections is the public IP of the router.  Maybe you can configure it to tell things on the LAN where each other are. That would be more useful.
[01:06] <will> TravelingMonkey: Try opening your document in Firefox and then using it's print selection for adjustments. Just a suggestion.No clue if it will work for you or not.
[01:06] <fadax> Yoinx Nevermind I've found what I was doing wrong!
[01:06] <TravelingMonkey> well, its a pdf
[01:06] <TravelingMonkey> and im opening it with evince
[01:07] <TravelingMonkey> but the "resize to fill printable area" option doesnt seem to exist
[01:07] <Hodr> edbian ok, I will try it, I have a commercial service coming in a week with 5 static's, but was hoping for a quick fix in the mean time
[01:08] <Hodr> edbian using a proxy site works, but they load up the pages with ads and crap :-(
[01:08] <edbian> Hodr, Quick fix: tell the DNS that everything is at your router's public IP.  Tell the router to port forward to the various servers
[01:09] <TravelingMonkey> firefox uses evince to display pdfs
[01:09] <TravelingMonkey> so, that is not an option
[01:09] <will> TravelingMonkey: I would not know where to start. I have not used that program for PDF based viewing. I normally use Adobe-Acrobat.
[01:09] <TravelingMonkey> to try to work around this, i installed okular
[01:10] <TravelingMonkey> it appears the KDE dialogs dont have such an option either
[01:10] <will> Hmm.
[01:10] <will> KDE was usually good at doing that.
[01:10] <TravelingMonkey> yeah
[01:10] <TravelingMonkey> i think this particular thing is missing
[01:10] <TravelingMonkey> i never thought about it before
[01:10] <TravelingMonkey> i just assumed it existed
[01:12] <will> TravelingMonkey: I just opened a PDF with the basic document viewer in Ubuntu, i have all the common options for printer adjustments.
[01:12] <TravelingMonkey> do you have something such as "resize document to printable area"?
[01:13] <TravelingMonkey> or "expand to fill printable area"?
[01:13] <wasd> hi, I set a standard program (totem) to play DVDs, how can I change that default program?
[01:13] <fisix> hey does anybody know how to rearrange the icons within and between the notification area vs the indicator applet?
[01:13] <TravelingMonkey> im trying to remember the exact wording
[01:14] <will> TravelingMonkey: Page Scaling - Fit page to printable area.
[01:14] <TravelingMonkey> okay
[01:14] <TravelingMonkey> i think i see it now
[01:15] <TravelingMonkey> man, i searched for that thing like 10 times
[01:15] <TravelingMonkey> it just proves you can never find something when youre looking for it
[01:15] <TravelingMonkey> or at least that i cant
[01:15] <TravelingMonkey> ;)
[01:15] <will> Lol.
[01:15] <will> I am actually having an issue with my logout/shutdown icon in teh upper right hand corner on the taskbar keeps dissapearing.
[01:16] <hiexpo> root__, why are you pming me
[01:16] <TravelingMonkey> yeah
[01:16] <TravelingMonkey> thats been happening to me, too
[01:16] <will> Hmm.
[01:16] <TravelingMonkey> but only with the second login
[01:16] <will> It hasn't happened before.
[01:16] <will> Mine just randomly goes *POOF*.
[01:16] <TravelingMonkey> like, i have another account for a relative, and its fine
[01:16] <TravelingMonkey> but mine disappears when i log in as the second user
[01:16] <will> It happened after i adjusted my ALSA-Pulse-Audio setup.
[01:17] <TravelingMonkey> thats strange
[01:17] <TravelingMonkey> but i havent adjusted that
[01:17] <shad0w_guy> hey anybody here with any FreeBSD expirience?? cause they kick me out of #freebsdhelp for no reason u.u
[01:17] <TravelingMonkey> but i also found that if you kill the X server, it comes back
[01:17] <TravelingMonkey> at least sometimes
[01:18] <TravelingMonkey> i didnt bother this time cause i was already into a bunch of stuff when i noticed
[01:18] <will> So far i only have two issues.
[01:18] <will> My shutdown/logout icon.
[01:18] <will> And no audio in KQ.
[01:18] <TravelingMonkey> are you using lucid?
[01:18] <will> 10.04
[01:19] <TravelingMonkey> yeah
[01:19] <will> I prefer 8.10.....
[01:19] <TravelingMonkey> me, too
[01:19] <TravelingMonkey> me, too, again
[01:19] <will> Can't get a higher up Distro.
[01:19] <TravelingMonkey> 8.10 was about the peak
[01:19] <will> And can't run 8.10 anymore.
[01:19] <will> Damm EoL junk.
[01:19] <will> No support for it at all anymore.
[01:20] <Evildaemon> So, I read the man page for nice (In shell) and it would appear that the shell doesn't know which version of nice to use. If anyone knows, I would gladly appreciate the knowledge of how to change nice value from the command line.
[01:20] <TravelingMonkey> well, there is a lot of hardware that was subsequently supported, too
[01:20] <TravelingMonkey> none of those 3G cards worked with 8.10
[01:21] <TravelingMonkey> but many of them work flawlessly with 10.04
[01:21] <TravelingMonkey> well, maybe flawlessly is the wrong word
[01:21] <TravelingMonkey> since they can lock the system
[01:21] <will> You had to manually install them in 8.10
[01:21] <TravelingMonkey> but they work out of the box
[01:21] <TravelingMonkey> i know
[01:21] <TravelingMonkey> but now, they just work
[01:21] <DystaN> Ubuntu 10.10  Compiz Fusion Dual MOnitors , can you change multiple desktop cubes independently ???
[01:21] <will> sudo /flipflop.sh
[01:21] <will> Lol.
[01:21] <TravelingMonkey> thats another question
[01:22] <TravelingMonkey> compiz is forcing a mouse pointer on me
[01:22] <will> O.o
[01:22] <will> Don't let it poke you.
[01:22] <Evildaemon> Lolwut?
[01:22] <TravelingMonkey> when i turn it off, it switches to the pointer i chose in appearance
[01:22] <TravelingMonkey> but when i turn it back on, it goes back to the one it likes
[01:22] <TravelingMonkey> and no change will affect it
[01:22] <will> Hmm.
[01:22] <TravelingMonkey> is there some way to set the mouse pointer in compiz?
[01:23] <will> I wouldnot be able to help you in teh slightest on that one.
[01:23] <TravelingMonkey> its been bugging me
[01:23] <will> If you are using CCSM then maybe you can change it. But other than that. I wouldn't have teh slightest clue. I have never changed my cursor.
[01:23] <TravelingMonkey> but its an annoyance, so i usually forget about it
[01:23] <TravelingMonkey> but someone was just talking about compiz
[01:24] <TravelingMonkey> well, if the comixcursors are installed, it just defaults to the black one
[01:24] <TravelingMonkey> and doesnt allow any changes
[01:24] <TravelingMonkey> maybe the start button problem has to do with compiz, too
[01:24] <TravelingMonkey> hmmm
[01:24] <TravelingMonkey> hold on
[01:25] <will> Oh, he was asking about Compiz and the multiple monitor setup.
[01:25] <TravelingMonkey> i know
[01:25] <o2oo> hi
[01:25] <TravelingMonkey> i read the post
[01:25] <will> I am guessing he wants 4 desktops on each monitor.
[01:25] <will> And to be able to control them seperately.
[01:25] <TravelingMonkey> well, that had no effect
[01:25] <o2oo> who knows how to get the length of the "int" type in ubuntu ?
[01:25] <TravelingMonkey> wait a sec
[01:26] <o2oo> hello, who knows how to get the length of the "int" type in ubuntu ?
[01:26] <TravelingMonkey> the power button and the IM client applet are still missing
[01:26] <TravelingMonkey> but the panel is still making/keeping space for them
[01:27] <jrib> o2oo: in what context? C?
[01:27] <TravelingMonkey> restarting compiz fixed my pointer problem -- this time
[01:27] <TravelingMonkey> interesting
[01:27] <TravelingMonkey> that didnt work the other day
[01:28] <illmortal> Anyone know how to change the cursor? Specifically when it's dragged onto a link? I don't like the little, "hand" icon lol
[01:28] <o2oo> jrib, in shell
[01:28] <TravelingMonkey> there are themes
[01:28] <DystaN> Ubuntu 10.10  Compiz Fusion Dual MOnitors , can you change multiple desktop cubes independently ???
[01:28] <TravelingMonkey> you might even be able to edit a pointer theme and put some other image in there
[01:28] <o2oo> for example, "uname -m" can get the ubuntu is 32bit or 64bit
[01:29] <illmortal> hmmm
[01:29] <o2oo> I knew a method to get the "int" type's length in ubuntu shell, but forgot!
[01:29] <jrib> o2oo: try #bash
[01:30] <o2oo> jrib, ?
[01:30] <o2oo> how
[01:30] <jrib> o2oo: /join #bash
[01:30] <Phong_> hi guys, i try to install ubuntu within windows mode and get this error: Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
[01:30] <Phong_> any help?
[01:30] <Phong_> after it reboot, i got this error: Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
[01:31] <o2oo> ok
[01:31] <Phong_> what seem to be the problem here?
[01:31] <Phong_> all i did was mount the .iso and install within windows
[01:31] <will> Cool. Got my shutdown/logout icon fixed.
[01:31] <Phong_> it asks me to reboot, which i did and got this eror: Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
[01:31] <Phong_> any h elp would be appreciated.
[01:32] <will> You tried to install 10.10 or 11.04?
[01:32] <mjn> general props to the open-source community!!
[01:32] <Phong_> 10.10
[01:32] <Phong_> x32 bit
[01:32] <mjn> y'all are great...!
[01:32] <will> That is why.
[01:32] <will> Stick with 10.04 for now.
[01:32] <will> Or even do a distro upgrade THROUGH 10.04.
[01:32] <mjn> go on a windows forum, and a lot of folks are a little uppity...
[01:32] <will> Don't manually install it with the ISO.
[01:32] <Phong_> oh, so u'll telling me to install 10.04 ?
[01:32] <Phong_> and then do upgrade?
[01:33] <will> The main Squash filessystem is a little screwy in 10.10 and 11.04 at teh moment.
[01:33] <mjn> but y'all take it in stride, even when my ??'s are incredibly stupid...thanks again!
[01:33] <will> You more than likely will never get them installed. D=
[01:33] <Yoinx> yeah, you could always just get virtualbox and install ubuntu in there if you wanted to try it out from windows
[01:33] <mjn> as they often/always are (see above, re: incredibly stupid)..
[01:34] <Yoinx> I'm assuming you are since you're trying to use wubi
[01:34] <Yoinx> mjn, there's no such thing as a stupid question... Since you were smart enough to ask.
[01:35] <Phong_> ok,ill download 10.04
[01:35] <mjn> see, that's what i'm talkin about...thanks again...
[01:35] <Phong_> i'll do it and did it, and done it. ;)
[01:35] <Phong_> brb
[01:35] <will> I appoligize i didn't catch your question "mjn". I was probably paying attention to my son when you typed it in.
[01:36] <larious> Phong_: why dont you download 10.10
[01:37] <gnome> Hi
[01:37] <larious> gnome : How are yu doing
[01:37] <gnome> I want to have tcpdump's output to be a little cleaner.
[01:37] <will> larious: I recommended him to install 10.04 and do a Distro upgrade from within due to the Squashfs and Wubi being corrupted in the new ISO's.
[01:38] <mjn> will, wasn't a question....i just noticed a lot of good behavior in the open source community...have benefited from the helpful attitudes of it's denizens, and want to encourage said behavior with a general shoutout/express my gratitude that there are places like this to go for help..
[01:38] <gnome> I want to parse it...
[01:38] <will> mjn: Oh, it sounded like you asked a question and never got a reply, haha.
[01:38] <bashzsh> I'm curious about this command (NOT TO BE RUN): sudo apt-get --purge remove [icecat]  If run with bash, it tries to delete about 6gb of packages on my machine. Why does it find so many? If run on zsh, it is "no matches found [icecat]". I'm guessing bash recognizes that as a regular expression?
[01:38] <gnome> More importantly, I need to upload via php
[01:38] <gnome> *ftp
[01:39] <gnome> I would probally upload the log, and use explode to manipulate the output.
[01:39] <larious> will: I have 10.04 and am having a problem that is why I am thiking of better upgrading to 10.10, no one yet solve my problem
[01:39] <gnome> How would I use ftp to upload a log? Also, can i rotate the log for tcpdump?
[01:41] <will> larious:I would recommend a Distro upgrade from within your Update Manager rather than installing from the ISO.
[01:41] <timo_> backtrack
[01:41] <Phong_> larious, i did download 10.10., and got this error : Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
[01:41] <Guest71642> yes
[01:42] <larious> Will: maybe you can solve my problem too
[01:42] <will> But then again. Formatting into EXT3 may let you install it from boot-up like normal. I know installation from Wubi inside Windows on Distros 10.10-11.04 comes out in two ways.
[01:42] <Phong_> ok i need to reboot
[01:42] <Phong_> be back
[01:43] <will> It will either tell you that Wubi is missing. Ot it will tell you that the SquashFS is corrupted or missing. I can't remember exactly what the outcome was that had to do with SquashFS.
[01:43] <Guest71642> do some body now to work with back track 4
[01:43] <will> larious: Sure. What might your problem be?
[01:45] <Phong_> still didn't work
[01:45] <Phong_> same message
[01:45] <Phong_> darm it
[01:45] <Phong_> i still ahve this fuking error: Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
[01:45] <Phong_> have*
[01:46] <DystaN> Ubuntu 10.10  Compiz Fusion Dual MOnitors , can you change multiple desktop cubes independently ???
[01:46] <bashzsh> gnome: man ftp && man logrotate
[01:46] <DystaN> :)
[01:47] <Phong_> this is getting annoying
[01:47] <Phong_> Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
[01:47] <larious> Will: I have a USB modem from Huawei company that my operator is using for internet connect for their subcriber in Nigeria and this modem has window driver and it install my APN automatically and in ubunt connection manager I set up the broadband connection it has for APN that I dont know and calling the technical support for the APN they told me that they dont have it and I told them about
[01:47] <larious> ubuntu they told me that they dont know anything about the window. So how do i do about this problem that I am having
[01:48] <Phong_> someone got to help me man
[01:48] <Phong_> i got problem install ubuntu: Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
[01:48] <Phong_> got this error with 10.10 or 10.04
[01:48] <lacus> gnome: man ftp && man logrotate
[01:48] <Phong_> this is impossible
[01:48] <will> Phong_: I am not sure how to help you out Phong_. It has to do with installing it inside of Windows i can tell you that much.
[01:49] <Phong_> no one ?
[01:49] <will> larious: What modem and company?
[01:50] <larious> Phong_: when I was installing mine.... I was having a problem of output but try it by cracking my brain I got it working, are you using desktop or laptop, and intel or AMD
[01:50] <pylix> Phong_: are you installing with a usb?
[01:50] <larious> will: the modem is Huawei EC226
[01:51] <Phong_> pylix, no, mount the iso
[01:51] <Phong_> with ultraiso
[01:51] <Phong_> then install it within windows 7
[01:51] <Phong_> after reboot got this: Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
[01:51] <will> Try extracting the CD into a folder on your desktop.
[01:51] <larious>  Phong_: when I was installing mine.... I was having a problem of output but try it by cracking my brain I got it working, are you using desktop or laptop, and intel or AMD
[01:51] <Phong_> oh okay
[01:51] <Phong_> let me try that
[01:51] <Phong_> brb
[01:51] <will> I used WinRaR to extract mine and then running the WUBI installer.
[01:52] <will> I wonder what version he is installing....
[01:52] <larious> will: I m waiting for you help now
[01:53] <larious>  Phong_: when I was installing mine.... I was having a problem of output but try it by cracking my brain I got it working, are you using desktop or laptop, and intel or AMD, tell me so that I can look into helping you, if I may suceeded :D
[01:53] <mjn> anyone know?  having a helluva time joining to the domain....tried likewise, centrify-express, net domain, and others....seems to be dns related....but i'm 80ish percent that's all right...just quickly, could this be my firewall...
[01:54] <will> larious: Try this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1090119
[01:54] <will> I have to reboot.
[01:54] <will> I just did a major Console no-no.
[01:54] <will> : /
[01:58] <minimec> larious: Your modem should work with ubuntu. You might have to disable the PIN of the phone card, as the network manager doesn't give you the possibility to enter the PIN.
[02:00] <Nowaker> hi. I got a question - is 11.04 mature enough to use on desktop? I am aware that not everything might fully work... just want to know if 11.04 works at all
[02:00] <braxton> Is it possible to create a wireless network that a device can connect to using my laptop if I'm connected to an ethernet cable?
[02:01] <Yoinx> maybe adhoc, if you bridge your connections.
[02:01] <minimec> braxton: If you can set your wifi card to master mode, that should be possible. Go to the network manager and share the wifi network to other devices.
[02:02] <Scunizi> !ics | braxton
[02:02] <BeyondThyme> Anyone here use Midori?  I found myself liking its speed but had a few crashes.  Has anyone found it stable or unstable in Ubuntu?
[02:03] <Nowaker> used it a year ago... it crashed then sometimes
[02:03] <Nowaker> don't know how it looks like now
[02:04] <BeyondThyme> Nowaker: ok, thanks
[02:04] <braxton> Thank you.
[02:07] <silentz0r> hey, ubuntu is failing to play a dvd movie with vlc. Is there something i need to configure?
[02:08] <larious> try to update the plug in of the vlc
[02:08] <p_res> silentz0r: You obviously have not installed css support.
[02:08] <silentz0r> p_res: cheers
[02:09] <p_res> A common thing some people forget. ;-)
[02:09] <DystaN> Are there ways  to rotate the deskop cubes (multiple ones) separately ?
[02:12] <silentz0r> p_res: I had installed it, just forgot to run the .sh file :p
[02:13] <Mission_Control> hello?
[02:13] <Mission_Control> goodbye
[02:13] <p_res> silentz0r: Fair enough.
[02:14] <Phong_> man,
[02:14] <Phong_> no matter what i do, i got no wubildr
[02:14] <Phong_> no matter what i do i got this: Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
[02:15] <Phong_> what the fuk is the problems
[02:15] <Phong_> i'm getting so mad and upset
[02:16] <Phong_> Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
[02:17] <IdleOne> Phong_: Please watch your language
[02:17] <Phong_> IdleOne, i need help badly
[02:17] <Phong_> why am i getting this: Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
[02:17] <Phong_> i extract the iso
[02:17] <Phong_> install
[02:17] <FloodBot2> Phong_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:17] <Phong_> not working
[02:18] <IdleOne> Phong_: I don't know why, let me do a little googling for you.
[02:18] <Phong_> ok
[02:18] <will> Phong_: Try reading this to manually set your GRUB setup. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=798283
[02:19] <p_res> Was this a fresh install Phong_ ?
[02:19] <p_res> Or what?
[02:19] <Phong_> yes
[02:19] <Phong_> p_res, fresh installed
[02:19] <p_res> Were you installing Ubuntu on a system that already has Windows installed?
[02:20] <A|i3N> wow I'm dumb. What's the linux equivalent to the DOS copy command? lol.
[02:20] <Phong_> yes
[02:20] <Phong_> p_res, wubi
[02:20] <minimec> A|i3N: cp
[02:20] <Phong_> within windows 7
[02:20] <p_res> A|i3N: copy
[02:21] <will> Lol.
[02:21] <Phong_> after reboot i got this: Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
[02:21] <will> Sorry, that was actually funny.
[02:21] <A|i3N> cp. lol ok I knew it was something simple.
[02:21] <LittleRed> ok guys... still trying to get my touch media controls working on my laptop (Sony running ubuntu 10.10) anyone out there get it to work?
[02:21] <will> Yeah, his GRUB isn't dirrecting him to his installation.
[02:21] <p_res> Phong_: I'd recommend not installing through Windows but rather just dual boot.
[02:21] <will> I can't help him at all.
[02:21] <will> I am used to using GRUB 1.
[02:22] <p_res> Sorry A|i3N, I gave you the dos cmd by mistake. I misread your post.
[02:22] <Phong_> wow
[02:22] <Phong_> then what is the point of having wubi
[02:22] <Phong_> lol
[02:23] <p_res> Phong_: Boot from CD, follow installer instructions and install Ubuntu side-by-side with Windows adn then you'll get grub menu upon boot up.
[02:23] <p_res> Phong_: Some have luck with WUBI, I always recommend to avoid it.
[02:23] <Phong_> ok, let me burn to CD
[02:23] <Phong_> brb
[02:23] <p_res> Phong_: ;-)
[02:23] <A|i3N> no problem I got it. OK just for conversations sake, say I want to copy a file from my downloads folder to my home directory - ubuntu won't let me do it, permission denied. So I went into the terminal and did sudo -s, then did a copy .... what would if I do if I wanted to bypass the terminal and drag and drop?
[02:24] <Gunni> ubuntu server: no x server: how do i disable Screen blanking, dpms, in terminal so the screen never turns off?
[02:25] <DystaN> Are there ways  to rotate the deskop cubes (multiple ones) separately ?
[02:25] <DystaN> Ubuntu 10.10  Compiz Fusion Dual MOnitors , can you change multiple desktop cubes independently ???
[02:25] <gangil> how to set a environment variable permanently?
[02:26] <gangil> like if i do FOO=x
[02:26] <gangil> export FOO
[02:26] <jrib> Gunni: use setterm
[02:26] <gangil> it goes after the shell is closed
[02:26] <itaylor57> gangil: put it in our .bashr or .profile
[02:26] <itaylor57> gangil: put it in your .bashrc or .profile
[02:26] <gangil> itaylor57: I am using android-x86
[02:27] <gangil> I am not sure if .bashrc or .profile exists
[02:27] <p_res> gangil: ls -a and have a look.
[02:28] <thraspic> ping thraspic
[02:30] <illmortal> Anyone a recommendation on the best AMD Motherboard? Something that supports dual x16 pci-e, 6-core (the later architect of AMD's processor.. I think it's boulder?), and definitely USB 3.0?
[02:30] <mndrll> hi everyone...!
[02:30] <p_res> mndrll: Hi.
[02:31] <border> hi
[02:31] <aarcane_> anyone here using a SAS Expander, and willing to recommend it for use in a new system ?  i'm shopping for a SAS Expander for a ubuntu based system, and would love to hear from anyone running one now.
[02:31] <Scunizi> Is there someplace else to get google earth other than google?  I have the medibuntu repos installed but nothing is showing
[02:31] <mndrll> hey, i just install lubuntu, but i want to know if transmission is a good torrent downloader
[02:31] <mndrll> or if there is any other betters
[02:31] <mndrll> *better
[02:31] <p_res> mndrll: I always had issues with Transmission and used Deluge instead.
[02:32] <aarcane_> mndrll, if you want a web interface for your torrents, there is NOTHING better than transmission.  if not, azureus is a bit more full featured, but java based.
[02:32] <lighta> I like transmission
[02:32] <p_res> Deluge can be used for server or web-ui or gtk whatever you want to use it for. ;-)
[02:32] <mndrll> mmm what about Ktorrent??
[02:32] <p_res> mndrll: KTorrent is also good.
[02:32] <lighta> kubuntu sound like
[02:36] <DystaN> Ubuntu 10.10  Compiz Fusion Dual MOnitors , can you change multiple desktop cubes independently ???
[02:36] <DystaN> Are there ways  to rotate the deskop cubes (multiple ones) separately ?
[02:37] <gangil> thanks p_res itaylor57
[02:37] <gangil> :)
[02:37] <nestea> hm
[02:37] <nestea> i cant install anything
[02:37] <nestea> i did a apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[02:37] <nestea> it installed everything
[02:37] <Scunizi> DystaN: no.. perhaps with the depreciated xinerama extension but not in twinview
[02:37] <nestea> the only reason im on xchat is because i had it running before hand
[02:38] <nestea> i cannot install any gtk browser (midori, chromium, etc)
[02:38] <p_res> Why?
[02:38] <nestea> i dunno
[02:38] <Gunni> how do i make fsck run next boot?
[02:38] <nestea> said it had a broken dependency and then
[02:38] <mndrll> thanks guys!!
[02:38] <nestea> BAM
[02:38] <Scunizi> nestea: how about sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (it does not upgrade your version of ubuntu like from 10.10 to 11.04)
[02:38] <nestea> i get fuked like this
[02:38] <mndrll> i think ill stick to transmission a while to see how it works!
[02:38] <bastidrazor> Gunni: type sudo touch /forcefsck   then reboot
[02:38] <nestea> hm
[02:38] <nestea> wtf
[02:38] <nestea> ..not supported.
[02:39] <nestea> tycel@tycel-laptop ~/midori-0.3.3 $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:39] <nestea> This operation is not supported
[02:39] <nestea> i just got done downloading over 20 gigs...:(
[02:39] <nestea> i really dont wanna freaking re-install everything
[02:39] <s5fs> nestea: when you try to install the chrome browser, what error do you receive?
[02:39] <p_res> s5fs: That's what I'm waiting for through the flooding. lol
[02:40] <Gunni> touch /forcefsck doesn't work
[02:40] <DystaN> does anyone know how to RESIZE the CAIRO-DOCK Switcher ???
[02:40] <nestea> Reading package lists... Done
[02:40] <nestea> Building dependency tree
[02:40] <nestea> Reading state information... Done
[02:40] <nestea> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[02:40] <nestea> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[02:40] <FloodBot2> nestea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:40] <nestea> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[02:40] <Gunni> bastidrazor: touch /forcefsck doesn't work
[02:40] <p_res> nestea: Try a sudo apt-get -f
[02:41] <nestea> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:41] <nestea>   chromium: Depends: chromium-bsu but it is not going to be installed
[02:41] <nestea> E: Broken packages
[02:41] <dr_Willis> downloaded 20 gigs? Makes me wonder what you downloaded.
[02:41] <nestea> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:41] <nestea>   chromium-bsu: Depends: libglc0 (>= 0.7.1) but it is not going to be installed
[02:41] <nestea> E: Broken packages
[02:41] <bastidrazor> Gunni: what  about it doesn't work?
[02:41] <nestea> a whole lot of anime ^^
[02:41] <p_res> nestea: Are you installing from the Ubuntu repos?
[02:41] <nestea> yeah
[02:41] <Gunni> bastidrazor: i did it, rebooted, nothing checked anything and the file is still there
[02:42] <dr_Willis> !find libglc0
[02:42] <skullboy> nestea: install libglc0 v 0.7.1
[02:42] <p_res> nestea: sudo apt-get install libglc0
[02:42] <dr_Willis> !info libglc0
[02:42] <p_res> Post back what it says.
[02:42] <nestea>  libglc0: Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[02:43] <dr_Willis> somthing seem odd with these verison #'s ?
[02:43] <nestea> don't ask me
[02:43] <skullboy> nestea: install libfontconfig1 v 2.4.0
[02:43] <nestea> i just install from the repos
[02:43] <p_res> Try sudo aptitude install chromium-browser
[02:43] <nestea> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:43] <nestea>   libfontconfig1: Depends: fontconfig-config (= 2.8.0-2ubuntu1) but 2.8.0-2.1 is to be installed
[02:43] <nestea> E: Broken packages
[02:43] <p_res> Sometimes aptitude fixes things automatically or at least offers a resolution.
[02:44] <nestea> fontconfig-config is already the newest version.
[02:44] <nestea> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:44] <dr_Willis> isnt there an apt-get install -f option.
[02:44] <nestea> yeah
[02:44] <p_res> dr_Willis: That's what I suggested already.
[02:44] <nestea> but its not working
[02:44] <marym> hi, fresh install of 10.10 - how do i set up automatic updates (say weekly without intervention of password for root)?
[02:44] <nestea> is what im trying ot say:(
[02:44] <bastidrazor> Gunni: this is where i get this from.. it works on my machine and has on every versions since 7.04..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1024771
[02:44] <nestea> if its any help
[02:44] <nestea> its downloading from lucid
[02:44] <FloodBot2> nestea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:44] <FloodBot3> nestea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:44] <FloodBot1> nestea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:44]  * nestea growls
[02:45] <dr_Willis> heh the flood bots are flooding
[02:45] <Gunni> bastidrazor: might LVM prevent it from working?
[02:45] <bastidrazor> Gunni: that may change everything, yes.
[02:46] <p_res> I gotta go get some lunch. A geek has to eat. Good luck nestea.
[02:46] <p_res> Hope you get it sorted.
[02:46] <nestea> doubtful
[02:46]  * nestea sighs
[02:46] <nestea> alright
[02:46] <nestea> give me a moment here
[02:46] <FloodBot1> nestea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46]  * nestea growls
[02:46] <nestea> fucking bots
[02:46] <p_res> nestea: Stop flooding then!
[02:46] <marym> ugh - update manager, do i install security updates without confirmation or download all updates in teh background?
[02:47] <marym> and do i need to enable any repos for this fresh install?
[02:47] <Gunni> k i'll restate my question, how do i force fsck to run on my LVM disk on boot?
[02:47] <nestea> can anyone give me the location where apt finds its sources? and can you give me the most recent thing to put in there?
[02:47] <marym> nestea - /etc/apt/sources.lst
[02:48] <nestea> okay
[02:48] <nestea> all my sources are
[02:48] <dr_Willis> you habve done a 'sudo apt-get update' recently nestea?
[02:48] <nestea> all my sources are lucid
[02:48] <nestea> yes
[02:49] <nestea> this is what caused this WHOLE mess
[02:49] <Scunizi> what printscreen program allows me to choose a window?  It doesn't matter if it's kde or gnome centric
[02:49] <nestea> something broke:(
[02:49] <FloodBot1> nestea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:49] <dr_Willis> scunizi - gimp can. and theres others in the repos.
[02:49] <nestea> I did a sudo apt-get update and then a sudo apt-get upgrade and then it removed literaly everything
[02:49] <Tohuw> What format should quotauser in adduser.conf be? Blocks? Bytes?
[02:49] <nestea> but didnt re-install anything
[02:49] <ebah> Hey all, is there a config file for notify-osd?
[02:49] <Scunizi> dr_Willis: gimp can take a snapshot of what's on the screen?
[02:49] <nestea> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates main restricted multiverse universe
[02:49] <nestea> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates restricted main multiverse universe
[02:50] <dr_Willis> scunizi - gimp can.   yes..
[02:50] <bastidrazor> Gunni: http://adminservercentral.com/index.php?topic=122.0 ... at the bottom but this requires you to have a liveCD/USB
[02:50] <Scunizi> dr_Willis: how?
[02:50] <Gunni> oh great, thanks bastidrazor
[02:50] <dr_Willis> scunizi -  check its menus. file -> acquire  i think...
[02:50] <Vegas_HP> hey guys I installed xubuntu and have decided to try windows home server.  However I can no longer boot any windows install cds on the computer. My xubuntu cd works inside the computer.  The install cd for windows home server works in other computers.  Any reason why I cant install windows now?
[02:50] <bastidrazor> Gunni: best of luck.
[02:50] <illmortal> bulldozer! that's what it is... can't wait til it comes out :D
[02:51] <dr_Willis> Ive seen some optical drives be very picky about what cds they can read vegas_hp
[02:51] <Vegas_HP> Dr_willis - it read it before xubuntu
[02:52] <Ioniz3D> Vegas_HP: what error do you have ?
[02:52] <Scunizi> dr_Willis: I had no idea.... worked like a champ.. THANKS!
[02:52] <nestea> can someone give me in query what there sources.list say
[02:52] <nestea> ?
[02:52] <Ioniz3D> Vegas_HP: clean CD/DVD.
[02:52] <Vegas_HP> Ioniz3D it just hangs on the black screen
[02:53] <semitones> n2i
[02:53] <Ioniz3D> nothing appears ?
[02:53] <marym> setting up pc 10.10 for older person, want to put decent weather monitor, clock, etc on desktop. which screen-applet should is good?
[02:53] <dr_Willis> vegas_hp installing an os is not going to make the drive not read other disks.. I have had optical disks die on me. or get flakey
[02:53] <Vegas_HP> Ioniz3D - yeah it just hangs reads the cd and then boots xubunut
[02:54] <marym> and email client similar to outlook - which one is good?
[02:54] <bastidrazor> marym: evolution
[02:54] <leaveboy> marym: thunderbird
[02:54] <marym> hm
[02:55] <hiexpo> nestea, what problem you having
[02:55] <Ioniz3D> Vegas_HP: try to burn MS OS on another media (dvd or cd), clean the media then shutdown the pc start it up and try
[02:55] <semitones> n2i, http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/03/adding-a-directory-to-your-path/ should get you started :)
[02:55] <ariel__> how do i mount/connect a My Book World Edition on Ubuntu ?
[02:55] <Vegas_HP> Dr_willis it reads other disc just fine and when i put it in the other dvd drive it does the same thing.  I tried the dvd on another computer and it works just fine
[02:56] <n2i> semitones: I will check it now
[02:56] <ariel__> how do i mount/connect a My Book World Edition on Ubuntu ?
[02:56] <dr_Willis> other disks as in other comercial disks.. or other disks you burnt..
[02:57] <Vegas_HP> Dr_willis - other discs i burnt
[02:57] <dr_Willis> thats what we are getting at.. it can read disks it made.. but not others..\
[02:57] <fisch246> is there a guide on installing gnome in Ubuntu?
[02:57] <fisch246> unless it's quite safe, can i have the command?
[02:57] <dr_Willis> try imageing the disk on one pc.. copy the iso over.. butn it on the problem pc. see if that makes it work.
[02:58] <fisch246> o sorry
[02:58] <fisch246> i mean ubuntu server
[02:58] <ariel__> how do i mount/connect a My Book World Edition on Ubuntu ?
[02:58] <dr_Willis> ficsh246 install ubuntu-desktop pacakge
[02:58] <dr_Willis> You are better off installing uuntu-desktop edition the n installing hte serivces you need. then the other way around.
[02:58] <ariel__> how do i mount/connect a My Book World Edition on Ubuntu ?
[02:59] <nestea> hiexpo: lol i lost everything and im trying to get it to work again
[02:59] <fisch246> dr_Willis: well yea... but i don't want all those libraries... i'm trying to build my own minimal version of ubuntu... maybe even more minimal than xubuntu, and i don't want to get lubuntu cause i want to do it myself
[02:59] <dr_Willis> ariel_	 a usb hard drive/ just plug it in.. it shuld auto mount. or show up in the placves menu.. or use the proper mount command.
[02:59] <hiexpo> nestea, how did you lose everything what you mean
[02:59] <illmortal> ya I have the same external HDD... I just plugged it in and it recognized it without an issue.
[02:59] <dr_Willis> fisch246 its poroberly allready been done. theres dozens of minimal ubuntu variants out.
[02:59] <h3r0> hi frien
[02:59] <nestea> hm
[02:59] <nestea> maybe i wont
[02:59] <ariel__> dr_Willis it's a network drive
[03:00] <nestea> grabbed my usb stick
[03:00] <nestea> and grabbed stuff off a debian repos
[03:00] <h3r0> i want to use swat but its no longer actively maintained :(
[03:00] <nestea> and so far..its working on isntalling stuff
[03:00] <fisch246> dr_Willis: i don't want a variant... i want to build it myself
[03:00] <dr_Willis> ariel_	 depends on  what services its using then for thenetwork.
[03:00] <nestea> brb though
[03:00] <hero> what can i have in replacement for swat? :(
[03:01] <ariel__> dr_Willis how do i figure that?
[03:01] <dassouki> w/c 2
[03:01] <p_res> hero: You can probably still install swat even though it's no longer maintained.
[03:01] <dr_Willis> ariel_ read its docs? it may be using samba. or some other NAS service.
[03:02] <hero> yes but can i have any software that can replace swat...
[03:02] <hero> im on untrusted network
[03:02] <n2i> Should  edit my $PATH via ~/.bash_profile?
[03:02] <n2i> *Should I
[03:02] <p_res> Dunno. I'm not even familiar with swat.
[03:02] <dr_Willis> theres other samba config/admin tools out there hero. but its proberly best to learn to edit the config files by hand.
[03:02] <hero> oh thank you p_res
[03:03] <dr_Willis> n2i you can if you want to,
[03:03] <hero> oh i see maybe like webmin
[03:03] <p_res> hero: I've used webmin before.
[03:03] <Abhijit> hi
[03:03] <hero> is it hard to use?
[03:03] <dr_Willis> webmin is not really a good tool to use these days either :)
[03:03] <Abhijit> where is channel for monodevelop?
[03:04] <dr_Willis> so forget about webmin.
[03:04] <hero> oh really dr_Willis..
[03:04] <p_res> hero: I'm just having a Google of swat now for curiosity.
[03:04] <dr_Willis> !eboxc
[03:04] <dr_Willis> !ebox
[03:04] <p_res> dr_Willis: What is wrong with webmin?
[03:04] <dr_Willis> swat - the old original web interface to samba. by the samba guys
[03:04] <dr_Willis> !webmin
[03:04] <dr_Willis> there ya go...
[03:04] <n2i> dr_Willis: Should I create new file while it is not exist?
[03:05] <p_res> dr_Willis: Didn't know that. Cheers.
[03:05] <hero> oh i see
[03:05] <dr_Willis> n2i a .bashrc an .bash_profile exist here by default
[03:05] <hero> im almost buying book about webmin :s
[03:05] <dr_Willis> n2i  unless you got some other ubuntu bariant thats differnt.
[03:05] <p_res> hero: Why buy a book. It's simple to use.
[03:05] <dr_Willis> hero its not worth buyung a book on. its a dieing project for the most part.
[03:05] <n2i> dr_Willis: I have no .bash_profile. I must create new?
[03:06] <hero> now i wont buy a book about webmin :)
[03:06] <p_res> Webmin home page still has installable DEB packages available.
[03:06] <dr_Willis> n2i if you want one.. and you dont have one.. then sounds like you make one.. or copy one from somewhere
[03:06] <leaveboy> n2i: edit the /etc/bash.rc
[03:07] <JAPAN_HERO> HI!
[03:07] <JAPAN_HERO> HELP JAPAN http://blogs.smh.com.au/sit/hitler.jpg
[03:07] <dr_Willis> n2i it may be its using .profile these days
[03:07] <JAPAN_HERO> http://blogs.smh.com.au/sit/hitler.jpg
[03:07] <JAPAN_HERO> http://blogs.smh.com.au/sit/hitler.jpg
[03:07] <dr_Willis> n2i or .bashrc
[03:07] <leaveboy> n2i: It does the same thing
[03:07] <bastidrazor> !ops | JAPAN_HERO
[03:07] <JAPAN_HERO> HELP JAPAN NOW
[03:07] <hero> if you recreate the .bash_profile won't it do?
[03:07] <hero> sudo adduser user1
[03:08] <dr_Willis> I tink the latest ubuntus went to using .bashrc and .profile, not .bas_profile
[03:08] <p_res> dr_Willis: Yes. They use bashrc
[03:08] <JAPAN_HERO> http://blogs.smh.com.au/sit/hitler.jpg
[03:09] <hero> p_res: how did you found out about swat?any good news?
[03:09] <n2i> dr_Willis: So..I will add some thing like that: PATH = $PATH:/sbin to my ~/.bashrc. Is it ok?
[03:10] <dr_Willis> !path
[03:10] <dr_Willis> you want to export the path.
[03:10] <dr_Willis> and thats not totally proper syntax you gave.
[03:11] <dr_Willis> and sbin should allready be in the default path.
[03:11] <n2i> export "PATH = $PATH:/sbin"?
[03:11] <n2i> dr_Willis: yes, I also think so.
[03:12] <n2i> my /etc/enviroment: PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"
[03:12] <dr_Willis> its time to check some bash docs n2i and learn  some basics.. its to easy to make typos to lean that stuff on irc.
[03:12] <dr_Willis> theres NO spaces befor/after the =  i think
[03:13] <ljsoftnet> how do i hide text messages during boot and shutdown?
[03:13] <dr_Willis> and theres thousands of web sites/examples about setting the path
[03:13] <n2i> :D
[03:13] <bastidrazor> export PATH="path/to/bin:$PATH" .. n2i
[03:14] <pyrofallout> Wondering if someone can help me out. I recently setup 10.10x64 on my server. i created another user and am ssh'ing in through that user instead of root, but the terminal prompt is quite different (just $ instead of user@host$ and can't use arrows).  Any suggestions?
[03:15] <hero> oh i think maybe you can change the shell pyrofallout?
[03:15] <hero> i think its in /etc/passwd
[03:16] <hero> you should check that user and check the shell
[03:16] <dr_Willis> you set your prompt via the PS1 variable. thers doezns of examples out there/  it maybe its not using bash, or its not running the .bash* init scripts
[03:16] <ljsoftnet> how do i hide text messages during boot and shutdown?
[03:16] <hero> $ usually is /bin/sh
[03:16] <hero> and change it to /bin/bash
[03:17] <hero> is that correct dr_Willis?
[03:17] <dr_Willis> best to use the chsh command to change you shell :)
[03:17] <dr_Willis> or as a test just run 'bash'
[03:17] <hero> yeah you right :d
[03:17] <bastidrazor> ljsoftnet: which version of ubuntu are you on?
[03:17] <pyrofallout> thanks hero, yes it is /bin/sh
[03:18] <pyrofallout> i think it has something to do with $PS1
[03:18] <leaveboy> pyrofallout: arrows?
[03:18] <ljsoftnet> bastidrazor ubuntu 10.04
[03:19] <pyrofallout> if i press arrow up, to like repeat last command, it instead inputs ^{{A
[03:19] <pyrofallout> ^[[A**
[03:19] <hero> i think you can create user with default bash shell by using -s option in useradd command
[03:19] <bastidrazor> ljsoftnet: /etc/default/grub  add :: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"   then sudo update-grub
[03:20] <leaveboy> pyrofallout: PS1="\u@\h \W:\$" will be ok
[03:21] <pyrofallout> I tried that and it literally sets the promp t to \u@\h \W$
[03:21] <ljsoftnet> bastidrazor its already on grub
[03:22] <hero> maybe better to leave it as default...
[03:22] <pyrofallout> hmm. i noticed root is using /bin/bash, is there any reason i cant run bash over sh
[03:23] <Mishrax> Hello
[03:23] <pyrofallout> switched my user to bash and things are good now. I guess my question then is there any concerns with using bash over sh
[03:23] <pyrofallout> as I am used to and prefer bash
[03:24] <bastidrazor> ljsoftnet: then you should be seeing no text but splash screens
[03:24] <rolo> hello all
[03:24] <Mishrax> I want to upgrade ubuntu 9.10 to 10.10 with live cd
[03:24] <Mishrax> Help
[03:25] <ljsoftnet> bastidrazor but its still there
[03:25] <rolo> any one have help for brasero program in ubuntu
[03:25] <p_res> Mishrax: Run the installer and away you go!
[03:25] <jussi> How does one exit from minicom? "exit" only takes me to login, ctrl+c and ctrl+q no help...
[03:25] <Mishrax> Where is that?
[03:26] <leaveboy> jussi: c_s_c c_s_q
[03:26] <p_res> Run the Live CD, double click on the desktop icon to install to hard drive.
[03:26] <rolo> need help to burn dvd
[03:26] <jussi> leaveboy: ?
[03:26] <Mishrax> Actuall here is d situation
[03:26] <cptmorgan> running 8.04 and i need to replicate an installed system. I've always done this with rsync. Everything boots up correctly on a fresh drive with identical partition table and filesystems but when booting the first time it complains about /var/run and /var/lock (varrun,varlock) and cannot start networking because of this. A reboot fixes this problem. Is there a reason this happens or a way to restore these filesystems so this doesn't happen
[03:27] <n2i> Thank you, dr_Willis!
[03:27] <leaveboy> jussi: ctrl+shift+c ctrl+shift +q
[03:27] <Mishrax> I hv dual boot xp nd 7 then ubuntu over them
[03:27] <p_res> Mishrax: That's fine. So what's the problem?
[03:27] <rolo> any one tell me why brasero wont burn dvd?
[03:27] <jussi> leaveboy: ahh, Ill try that, tanks
[03:28] <dr_Willis> rolo braserero is a little flakey at times. theres otehr burning apps out there thaty may work better
[03:28] <Mishrax> I m nt getting hw to cnfigure installation
[03:28] <Mishrax> I fear if it won't boot again
[03:29] <p_res> Run the installer from the aforementioned icon.
[03:29] <rolo> im open to a suggestion   dr willis
[03:29] <dr_Willis> !burn
[03:29] <Mishrax> I did
[03:29] <Mishrax> After that
[03:29] <nestea> hm
[03:29] <carl1408> what is the timezone package?
[03:30] <nestea> after i grabbed the updates from the debian repos earlier, so far no trouble downloading from apt now lol
[03:30] <rolo> thanks for the tip on dvd software
[03:30] <carl1408> or... not that.. but the one that sets daylight savings time...?
[03:30] <Mishrax> Nd what if i hv to remove ubuntu
[03:30] <dr_Willis> nestea DEBIAN repos? You mixxed debian and ubuntu? thatds not a good idea.
[03:30] <p_res> Mishrax: ... follow the prompts of the installer.
[03:30] <bastidrazor> nestea: no wonder you're having issues. you're not being truthful in what you're doing.
[03:30] <nestea> no
[03:31] <nestea> im not mixing until now i believe
[03:31] <Mishrax> All os are in different drives
[03:31] <nestea> debian is the easiest one to browse for me
[03:31] <p_res> Mishrax: Are you looking to wipe your current Ubuntu install?
[03:31] <nestea> and i just grabbed 2 files
[03:31] <nestea> fontconfig and fontconfig1
[03:31] <nestea> lol
[03:31] <nestea> worked like a charm after that with dpkg -i
[03:31] <knoppies> Does anybody know how to get VLC to open  new videos as fullscreen (on my second monitor) by default.
[03:31] <dr_Willis> good luck and hopeit dont break in the figure.
[03:31] <Mishrax> Ya to empty the drive
[03:32] <p_res> Mishrax: So as I've said. Run the installer and follow the prompts and install the Live CD to the empty hard drive you wish to install to.
[03:32] <dr_Willis> knoppies - compiz has some settings that can tweak that. or chck the advanced controll/settings in vlc.  VLC rembers what screen it opened on last here. so it stays on my 2nd monitor.
[03:33] <nestea> after those two files
[03:33] <gundas> Is there a way to find and replace *only* LF characters in a CSV files, I have occurances of LF CR which I wan't to keep, I only want to replace LF when it is by itself?
[03:33] <nestea> apt-get is downloading from
[03:33] <knoppies> thanks dr_Willis, I will look into that.
[03:33] <nestea> a ubuntu repos
[03:33] <nestea> it went down quick lol couldnt see the whole thing
[03:33] <Mishrax> No... Now tell if i want to use only xp nd 7...
[03:33] <Mishrax> Hw to remove ubuntu and grub
[03:34] <knoppies> If I want to view Microsoft Power Point files (.pptx) on ubuntu, how do you suggest I do it (I remember seeing some pptviewer in synaptic but I can't find it now, is open office my only/best option?)
[03:34] <p_res> Mishrax: If you install the new Ubuntu, new installer will install the new grub config for you so you can still boot XP and W7.
[03:35] <zeleftikam> quick question: if I install 10.04 desktop, can i update to 10.10 via the internet updates built into Ubuntu? i don't have a 10.10 disc handy but i do have 10.04. can i install that and get up to date through the updater after installing?
[03:35] <Fluttershy> yes
[03:36] <joshmclvl1> zeleftikam: you can.
[03:36] <zeleftikam> thanks!!
[03:36] <knoppies> zeleftikam, yes, but I dont recommend it (I had a bad experience years ago). If you are going to do it that way, then I recommend you update everything you can in 10.04 before you try update to 10.10
[03:36] <joshmclvl1> zeleftikam: it tends to be messy, however, so be careful!
[03:36] <zeleftikam> ahh
[03:36] <Mishrax> I m getting but what should i choose on installation time..
[03:36] <Mishrax> Where to install boot loader... And in which drive to install ubuntu
[03:37] <p_res> Install Ubuntu to whichever drive you want to. Boot loader will sort itself out, don't worry about that.
[03:37] <Mishrax> Its showing all other drives as /sd*/c: smthing
[03:38] <nestea> brb
[03:38] <ljsoftnet> how do i hide text messages during boot and shutdown?
[03:38] <joshmclvl1> ljsoftnet: why would you want to? ;) I think using plymouth /should/ hide verbosity.
[03:39] <p_res> Mishrax: That's normal.
[03:39] <ljsoftnet> joshmclvl1 its not hiding everything
[03:39] <p_res> Mishrax: That's what drives are known as in the world of Unix/Linux.
[03:40] <joshmclvl1> ljsoftnet: *grumble grumble*, that's not good.
[03:40] <Mishrax> Hmm so i vl install it as u say.. I vl ask u while installing
[03:40] <joshmclvl1> ljsoftnet: or at least not ideal.
[03:40] <Mishrax> Thanx
[03:41] <p_res> No props.
[03:41] <p_res> probs
[03:41] <Mishrax> Upto what time U r here
[03:41] <illmortal> does anyone know what email application is compatible with Exchange Server 2010? Would like to setup my company email.. but can't find anything right now
[03:42] <p_res> All arvo mate.
[03:42] <LincKraker> is it possible to run an X server on another computer and use xinerma for multimonitors
[03:42] <joshmclvl1> illmortal: thunderbird maybe?
[03:43] <illmortal> hmm.. ok
[03:43] <joshmclvl1> illmortal: maybe I'm an idealist but I'd think exchange would be built into the big names
[03:43] <p_res> illmortal: Shouldn't any email client be able to connect to Exchange?
[03:43] <joshmclvl1> illmortal: and if not it would be easy to find a way, id guess
[03:43] <Mishrax> Ok
[03:44] <illmortal> p_res that's what I thought.. but apparently not.
[03:44] <p_res> Hmmm.
[03:44] <p_res> Odd.
[03:44] <illmortal> well at least not evolution
[03:44] <LincKraker> no one likes my idea?
[03:45] <p_res> illmortal: I use Thunderbird, I find it's much better.
[03:45] <LincKraker> no?
[03:45] <joshmclvl1> illmortal: the big G brought up an article for evolution from 2006 for exchange, lol. dunno if it would be useful though. like third entry is ubuntu wikis thunderbird
[03:46] <illmortal> checking thunderbird right now
[03:46] <xangua> evolution does support exchange, but an old versión of it, not latest
[03:47] <Cygnia> May I ask if anyone knows the channel name for Natty discussion? Is it ubuntu+1? For some reason the list command isn't working.
[03:47] <rww> Cygnia: #ubuntu+1
[03:47] <Cygnia> Thanks rww
[03:47] <illmortal> lol.. thunderbird doesn't support anything outside of pop3 and imap for incoming.
[03:47] <Roge> Hi, is there a way to put the close/maximize/minimize windows buttons on the right hand side of the window  ?
[03:48] <bastidrazor> !controls | Roge
[03:48] <Roge> Thanks
[03:48] <p_res> illmortal: Fair enough. I use IMAP myself.
[03:48] <cfedde> is there a way to static configure wifi for a ssid/wpa key?
[03:49] <nit-wit> Roge, you can do t in gconf-editor
[03:49] <nit-wit> *it
[03:50] <Roge> Thanks nit-wit
[03:50] <nit-wit> Roge, no problem.
[03:50] <toby_> hey guys i am trying to install a program called handbrake having problems getting to it i downloaded the ppa using sudo aptget  but i have no idea from there
[03:51] <Stryker> toby_, handbrake is an outdated piece of crap
[03:52] <bastidrazor> toby_: can you give a link to the ppa page?
[03:52] <trism> cfedde: click nm-applet, choose edit connections and create a new connection on the wifi tab
[03:52] <toby_> Stryker: you have a better program for video compression / conversion?
[03:52] <toby_> bastidrazor: https://edge.launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-releases
[03:53] <Stryker> avidemux, toby_
[03:53] <Stryker> it sucks for bulk though
[03:53] <bastidrazor> toby_: after adding the ppa.. sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install handbrake
[03:53] <loquitus> What is the best way to get started with NoSQL on Ubuntu?
[03:53] <toby_> ah i didnt hit that last command
[03:55] <toby_> bastidrazor,  no dice says Package handbrake is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:55] <toby_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[03:55] <comcomist> how to convert color pdf file to black and white ?
[03:55] <cfedde> trism: this is a server/text mode system is there syntax that does that in say /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:56] <bastidrazor> toby_: apt-cache policy handbrake   :what is the output of this?
[03:56] <toby_> says installed: none
[03:56] <toby_> candidate none
[03:56] <toby_> version table:
[03:56] <trism> cfedde: for /etc/network/interfaces create a wpa.conf file with wpa_passphrase ssid; and save it in /etc/wpa.conf, then add the: wpa-conf /etc/wpa.conf line to your /etc/network/interfaces
[03:57] <Swerve__> hello everyone..I need some help
[03:57] <Swerve__> please
[03:57] <trism> cfedde: in addition to the: auto wlan and then whatever iface configuration you want
[03:57] <toby_> Swerve__,  admitting u need help is the first step
[03:57] <Swerve__> lol
[03:57] <Swerve__> i do bro
[03:58] <Swerve__> u gonna help me toby?
[03:58] <toby_> Swerve__,  prolly not i am here for help too
[03:58] <comcomist> how to convert color pdf file to black and white ?
[03:58] <bastidrazor> toby_:  it would appear the ppa is borked. once you 'sudo apt-get update' it should tell apt-get that handbrake is available from the ppa
[03:59] <cfedde> trism: awesome!  thanks.  BTW are there doc pointers somewhere for this?
[03:59] <rww> cfedde: or add wpa-ssid and wpa-psk to /etc/network/interfaces directly. e.g. http://paste.ubuntu.com/580419/
[03:59] <Swerve__> let me explain..I have ubuntu 9.10 installed..I stopped using windows..I need these updates from DELL so my dvd burner will work..how do i install these updates using ubuntu?
[03:59] <cfedde> rww the psk is the one generated by wpa_passphrase?
[03:59] <Swerve__> http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?s=gen&c=us&l=en&cs=&k=TEAC+DV-W58E&cat=all&x=9&y=10
[03:59] <rww> cfedde: Not that I found. The wpa_supplicant integration with Debian/Ubuntu's command-line networking stuff doesn't have much documentation
[03:59] <rww> cfedde: correct
[03:59] <toby_> bastidrazor,  i ran update again then install still same error
[04:00] <cfedde> rww: thanks, and I would have noticed that if I had just read your paste.
[04:01] <MrBubbles> how can i install ubuntu studio with a usb flash drive?
[04:01] <dusf> i am trying to install xml copy editor but ubuntu software centre is telling me libxerces-c3.0, even though i have cs3.1 installed. how can i fix this please?
[04:02] <trism> cfedde: any wpa- lines in /etc/network/interfaces are passed as environment variables to wpa_supplicant, but I haven't found docs for them, although you can find them in the /etc/wpa_supplicant/functions.sh, if you wanted to set verbosity or debug-level to troubleshoot problems
[04:02] <bastidrazor> toby_: you can grab the .debs from https://edge.launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-releases/+packages  .. not sure why the ppa isn't working correctly
[04:02] <cfedde> rww, trism If we ever meet in real life I'll buy you a beer or other similar libation of your choice.
[04:02] <cfedde> it works.
[04:02] <rww> woot :)
[04:03] <cfedde> now.. where to tuck clues about this for the next poor bastard that comes along....
[04:04] <toby_> bastidrazor,  ok fyi i am very new to linux which file do i want there are like 30 i am using ubuntu desktop 10.10
[04:04] <niteshade> yo
[04:05] <toby_> bastidrazor,  i think i figued it out i think i want the maverick one
[04:05] <bastidrazor> toby_: are you using 32bit or 64bit?
[04:05] <niteshade> you know how ubuntu is open source and you're supposed to be able to get the source code to everything on it?  How do i get the source code of ubuntu to look at?
[04:05] <MrBubbles> how can i install ubuntu studio 10.10 with a usb flash drive? (i am using windows xp and macbuntu)
[04:06] <toby_> bastidrazor,  32 bit
[04:06] <toby_> bastidrazor,  so i want maverick i386 right?
[04:06] <xangua> MrBubbles: use unetbootin
[04:06] <edbian> niteshade, sudo apt-get source <packageName>
[04:06] <trism> niteshade: minus the sudo
[04:06] <needlez> hi, how can I set a qouta for a file??  like a limit on how many megabytes the file can be, and after that amount it will overwrite the first line?? any ideas?
[04:06] <toby_> bastidrazor,  sweet it worked thanks alot
[04:07] <bastidrazor> toby_: yes, get both  handbrake-gtk and handbrake-cli-...i386.deb's
[04:07] <niteshade> so, apt-get install source xchat?
[04:07] <rww> niteshade: and if that doesn't work, make sure you have deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list corresponding to the deb lines.
[04:07] <rww> niteshade: yes
[04:07] <rww> niteshade: wait no. apt-get source xchat.
[04:07] <MrBubbles> does unetbootin support ubuntu studio 10.10?
[04:07] <panfist> i have a verified 10.10 64-bit install cd, verified when burned and 'checked for defects' off the cd. i can't get to install or try ubuntu. it drops me to (initramfs) prompt with the message, "mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: Input/output error"
[04:07] <niteshade> oh
[04:07] <edbian> niteshade, apt-get source xchat    (and it will put the source in the current working directory)
[04:07] <niteshade> where does it go to look at?
[04:08] <niteshade> oh
[04:08] <panfist> holy crap the cd drive is spinning out of control
[04:08] <niteshade> thanks.  I figured that figuring out everything about my computer would help me to be better educated about computers and linux in general.
[04:09] <panfist> oooooookkkkkk time to throw out this dvd-rom
[04:09] <niteshade> what about kernel source?
[04:09] <edbian> niteshade, Sure, but don't try to read the source code if you don't know how to program :)
[04:09] <niteshade> well, if you don't change anything
[04:10] <niteshade> but, i know a functional amount of C and python.
[04:10] <edbian> niteshade, You can download the source and edit it all you want.  It won't make a difference because you have to compile that source to run the code.
[04:10] <MrBubbles> i just tried using unetbootin but it does not support ubuntu studio 10.10, is there a way to upgrade though terminal?
[04:11] <MrBubbles> *through
[04:11] <edbian> niteshade, The linux kernel is just another package.  I don't know which one off the top of my head.
[04:11] <nit-wit> MrBubbles, did you try just loading the 10.10 iso
[04:11] <Stryker> MrBubbles, apt-get install update
[04:12] <niteshade> yeah.  So, for example if i see a security hole in a program like xchat that could lead to a root exploit (just pulling the scenario outta my ass) and if i can fix it, then how do i compile that fix so that my computer becomes safer?
[04:12] <niteshade> does it come with a makefile, or just the source?
[04:12] <niteshade> or, what gcc arguments
[04:13] <edbian> niteshade, It should come with a make file.
[04:13] <niteshade> cool
[04:13] <niteshade> see ya.
[04:14] <niteshade> thanks
[04:14] <overclucker> niteshade: you can get the source of a package with apt-get source,
[04:14] <trism> niteshade: you can also rebuild an updated package: http://www.moosechips.com/2008/09/ubuntu-rebuild-a-source-package/
[04:14] <edbian> niteshade, Then you compile that new version of the code and use it instead of your current version. It's probably a better idea to notify the developers about the bug fix though
[04:15] <niteshade> yeah.  Wait, what if i had a booby trap for hackers hard-coded into the program?
[04:15] <niteshade> heh heh
[04:15] <Stryker> you would invent an antihack
[04:15] <edbian> niteshade, What if you added it?  Then the developers wouldn't accept your bug fix.  (Nobody would accept your new version without looking at the code)
[04:15] <needlez> hi, how can I set a qouta for a file??  like a limit on how many megabytes the file can be, and after that amount it will overwrite the first line?? any ideas?
[04:15] <overclucker> niteshade: opensource . . .
[04:16] <needlez> !quota
[04:16] <niteshade> i've always told people that the joy of open source is that if you don't like something about your OS, you can change it if you know how
[04:17] <niteshade> now, i can learn how
[04:17] <panfist> one person's joy is another person's misery
[04:17] <bawnio> panfist one person's dog is another's dead baby
[04:18] <overclucker> one persons misery is another persons joy
[04:18] <niteshade> depends on whether you're doing because you want to, or you have to.
[04:18] <nit-wit> niteshade, and it's fre muhahahaha
[04:18] <bawnio> what's worse than a dead baby?
[04:18] <nit-wit> *free
[04:19] <niteshade> that to :D
[04:19] <bawnio> the holocaust
[04:19] <rww> ... Perhaps we should get back to Ubuntu technical support o.O
[04:19] <bawnio> good point
[04:19] <randomuser> has anyone done a successful kickstart install?
[04:20] <bawnio> what is kickstart?
[04:20] <zeleftikam> okay, i installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. How do i get it to net-update to 10.10 now?
[04:20] <niteshade> bawnio: i think i read about this, some math dude in a magazine i read said that the longer a blog got, the probability of a hitler reference approaches 1
[04:20] <Stryker> i have read the same exact article
[04:20] <niteshade> really?
[04:20] <Stryker> yup
[04:21] <niteshade> cool.
[04:21] <bawnio> i did too
[04:21] <zeleftikam> i did all the updates in Update Manager, restarted, and checked for updates again and there aren't any. is there something i have to do to get it to check for 10.10?
[04:21] <pylix> needlez: do you have any programming background?
[04:21] <bawnio> i read an article that said something about justin bieber references, but this is a bit off topic
[04:21] <edbian> zeleftikam, Go to System -> Admin -> Software sources. Change the drop down from LTS releases to normal releases and try again in the update manager
[04:22] <zeleftikam> edbian, will do. thanks
[04:22] <randomuser> bawnio, kickstart is a script for setting up an unattended install and also your mom is off topic
[04:22] <needlez> pylix: not much, just want to set a folder or file to have a limit for it. can I do it with just a simple command like setquota??
[04:22] <rww> zeleftikam: What edbian said. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades has all the details.
[04:22] <zeleftikam> thanks guys! :)
[04:22] <edbian> zeleftikam, Did it work?
[04:22] <zeleftikam> edbian, yes sir. i got the upgrade dialogue going now :)
[04:23] <bawnio> randomuser i have never heard the unattended installs being called kickstart
[04:23] <zeleftikam> didn't realise 10.10 is not an LTS
[04:23] <edbian> zeleftikam, Awesome, be warned it takes a long time.  Like several hours
[04:23] <edbian> zeleftikam, LTS is once every 3 years
[04:23] <pylix> are you using thunar?
[04:23] <edbian> or something...
[04:23] <bzb> hey i am on ubunt
[04:23] <zeleftikam> hmm. i am installing on a 2.5ghz quad core with a 20 megabit connection... shouldn't take that long!
[04:23] <randomuser> bawnio, no worries, it just means that you probably can't answer my questions about it
[04:23] <bzb> hey i got a question
[04:24] <edbian> zeleftikam, Lucky
[04:24] <bzb> can i speak with a certified ubanto expert
[04:24] <zeleftikam> 11 minutes to download it
[04:24] <bzb> ?
[04:24] <edbian> bzb, What is it?
[04:24] <niteshade> i wonder what would happen if you consumed pure, concentrated caffiene?
[04:24] <bawnio> randomuser, that's why im sad :'(
[04:24] <bzb> ok so i have installt this ubut
[04:24] <bzb> and its not
[04:24] <bzb> detecint my wirless
[04:24] <FloodBot1> bzb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:24] <bzb> srry :<
[04:24] <zeleftikam> <3
[04:24] <bzb> im tryin 2 make wireless work but i wont
[04:24] <edbian> niteshade, You're off topic
[04:24] <niteshade> you too
[04:24] <bawnio> bzb plz rephraze, i can't tell what ur saying
[04:24] <ruan> how can i record from speakers?
[04:24] <bzb> ok
[04:24] <bzb> i have a computr
[04:25] <bzb> with ubanto
[04:25] <bzb> and i sintaleld it
[04:25] <zeleftikam> Ubuntu
[04:25] <bzb> BUT
[04:25] <FloodBot1> bzb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <bzb> the wirless wont work
[04:25] <niteshade> put a mic up to the speakers and press rec
[04:25] <ruan> !enter
[04:25] <kdog> My ubuntu just croaked and I pulled the drive, put it in a usb enclosure and am trying to mount it. It is failing with "bad superblock". I've tried the alternative superblock locations to no avail. Any suggestions?
[04:25] <ruan> niteshade: lol. i want the same quality
[04:25] <bzb> i tried 2 contact the internet with google chromimum browser from terminal but its stoll dont wokr
[04:25] <bzb> do i have 2 forward my ports
[04:25] <bzb> how do i acess my router from ubuntu without wires
[04:26] <randomuser> !troll
[04:26] <bzb> i have a acer apsire 5551
[04:26] <zeleftikam> i can't tell if he is trolling or not
[04:26] <niteshade> or, you could do it the hard way, which is better quality and splice into the speaker wires themselves, cutting out the open air, acoustics, and mic quality variables, but it's not as easy or lazy
[04:26] <bzb> with an amd computer
[04:27] <bawnio> he's a kid, i can tell
[04:27] <bzb> i hve a wire less connection on windows
[04:27] <bzb> i have a dual boat of windows
[04:27] <bzb> and ubunt
[04:27] <bzb> so i kno the wire less conection works
[04:27] <bawnio> let us give him/her support
[04:27] <rww> bzb: Stop abusing your enter key, please.
[04:27] <bzb> how do i make it works on ubuntu
[04:27] <bzb> sorry
[04:27] <bzb> its a compulsion i cant ctrl
[04:28] <bzb> neway
[04:28] <niteshade> or, this is how i used to do it: take a phono-to-phono jack (male on both sides) and plug one end into the headphone jack of one, and the other into the mic jack of the other computer
[04:28] <rww> bzb: I recommend you start controlling it.
[04:28] <niteshade> there's a million ways to do it
[04:28] <bzb> what do headphones have 2 do with my wireless conetion
[04:28] <rsync> hi im trying to create an rsync but it doesnt seem to be working. When i try to ssh  i receive the following messagePermission denied (publickey,password).
[04:28] <bzb> hi i need to talk with a linux expert how do i hack my wireless on do i need to write a script in C++
[04:28] <rsync> can anyone help?
[04:28] <niteshade> bzb: everything
[04:28] <bzb> i dont understand
[04:28] <niteshade> of course you don't mortal
[04:29] <Stryker> lol
[04:29] <bzb> huh??
[04:29] <rww> niteshade: don't be silly, please :(
[04:29] <bzb> why are u talkin shit
[04:29] <niteshade> of course you don't
[04:29] <bzb> wtf
[04:29] <FloodBot1> bzb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:29] <niteshade> lol
[04:29] <bzb> i am just tryin to get some help why are u clalin me shit
[04:29] <bzb> i dont evn kno u
[04:29] <rww> bzb: ignore them
[04:29] <bzb> OK LOOK I HAVE TO GE THIS WIRLESS WORKING FOR SKOOL
[04:29] <Potter> can someone say to me how I can install the clamav ?
[04:29] <bzb> cuz they dont have WIRES at SKOOL
[04:29] <needlez> bzb: if you want information on aircrack-ng please ask in aircrack-ng channel
[04:30] <rsync> Permission denied (publickey,password).
[04:30] <Stryker> plz, bzb, tell us what is happening, as i believe many of us are lost on what u are trying to do
[04:30] <bzb> whats aircrack wtf
[04:30] <bzb> i am TRYIN TO GET WIRELESS INTERNE
[04:30] <bzb> CONTACTING MY INTERNET
[04:30] <bzb> FFS
[04:30] <FloodBot1> bzb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:30] <niteshade> BOW DOWN AND WORSHIP THE ONE TRUE GOD, NEFARIOUS NINJA NITESHADE!!!  MUHAHAHA!!!!
[04:30] <needlez> bzb: aircrack-ng is the program used for hacking wireless internet
[04:30] <bzb> whats aircrack
[04:30] <bzb> i dont wanna have 2 install a whole new ubanto just so i can contact google
[04:30] <needlez> bzb: its used for hacking wireless internet
[04:30] <rww> needlez: That has nothing to do with their wifi card not working.
[04:30] <bzb> my wifi card works
[04:30] <Stryker> bzb,  are u trying to illegally obtain the internet from ur school?
[04:30] <bzb> iwtf?
[04:31] <bzb> its FREE INTERNE
[04:31] <bzb> i have a WIRED INTERNE AT HOME
[04:31] <needlez> rww: sorry I misunderstood thought he wanted free internet hacked
[04:31] <rsync> hi im trying to create and rysnc but it doesnt seem to be working. when i try yo ssh using the create account i recieve the follwoing error message "permission denied (publickey, password)
[04:31] <IdleOne> bzb: drop the caps
[04:31] <bzb> my wifi cord is connected
[04:31] <randomuser> wow, this channel has really gone down the tubes, canonical
[04:31] <bzb> but i cant contact google
[04:31] <randomuser> !mods
[04:31] <rww> randomuser: This channel has nothing to do with Canonical.
[04:31] <edbian> rsync, ssh and rsync are two different programs.  What are you trying to do?
[04:31] <rsync> create and rsyncc
[04:31] <randomuser> rww, i assumed, thanks for correcting
[04:31] <niteshade> yeah, i tried that.  It said it cracked the encryption, but now it wants a dictionary file.  WTF?  Is it just a wireless version of a dictionary cracker?
[04:31] <bzb> my internet contacts when i am on windows 7 on my laptop but whn im nt it doesnt work at all so i am wonderin what i have 2 install
[04:31] <edbian> rsync, That doesn't make sense.
[04:32] <bzb> i tried manually enter my connection
[04:32] <Stryker> bzb, use a different browser than chromium
[04:32] <rsync> why?
[04:32] <bzb> like the name of the connection is GroveStreet and i entere that in name with ath01
[04:32] <bzb> and it sint workin
[04:32] <bzb> i can see like ADD NEW WIRLESS
[04:32] <bzb> but its not auto like eht0
[04:32] <bzb> like authoEth0 wired connection
[04:33] <niteshade> i got a wireless by me named DeezNuts.  True story
[04:33] <bzb> im sorry its hard
[04:33] <bzb> i have adhd
 why doesnt it make sense?
[04:33] <bzb> can u hlp me
[04:33] <bzb> FFS is there ANYONE HERE who even USES FREAKING UBUNTU
[04:33] <IdleOne> !wifi > bzb
[04:33] <rww> !guidelines > bzb
[04:33] <edbian> rsync, You want to 'create' an rsync?  I don't know what you mean?
[04:33] <LittleRed> Hi guys, still searching for my drivers, but I'm starting to think I'm looking for the wrong thing. It's a Sony running 64bit ubuntu 10.10 and it has a touch bar on the top for audio video controls. What do you call that stupid bar?
[04:33] <rww> bzb: come back in 15 minutes when you've read those.
[04:34] <Polah> LittleRed: Playback bar? Multimedia menu?
[04:34] <Korny1> Anyone awake in here who's good with bash scripting? I'm trying to grep the output of ffmpeg -i :/
[04:34] <banker247> anyone familiar with dosbox?
[04:35] <ruan> banker247: i've used it before
[04:35] <niteshade> sorry
[04:35] <LittleRed> Polah: I have googled media bar, but couldn't find anything
[04:35] <Korny1> Banker I've used it as well, whats up
[04:35] <banker247> Korny1,  i'm trying to do this http://forums.scummvm.org/archives.php?thread=1313908&sid=d3f741e6492fe9adb0c84289acb6926f
[04:35] <banker247> totally lost and can't figure out how ;)
[04:36] <banker247> get that openglhq working with hqx4 scalesr
[04:36] <Korny1> Thats out of my scope :/ I'm having issues with bash :P
[04:36] <Potter> how can I configure the clam av on my ubuntu 10.10
[04:36] <draven_sol> on command line how do i add 30 minutes to the current date for a script?
[04:36] <Potter> ?
[04:36] <overclucker> Korny1: read about bash and pipes
[04:37] <niteshade> rww: i was helping.  I told ruan 3 different ways to record a playback
[04:37] <LittleRed> Polah: I'll see what I can find with those descriptions. It's the only thing not working...gggrrrrr
[04:37] <Polah> LittleRed: I assume you mean across the top of the laptop itself? Perhaps try "Sony <model> audio control buttons drivers" or something? Perhaps it's only available from Sony itself, preinstalled on the laptop
[04:37] <ruan> lol.
[04:37] <rww> niteshade: Good. Now do that all the time instead of descending to comments about ninjas and your nuts ;P
[04:37] <shcherbak> draven_sol: What do you mean add 30 minutes?
[04:38] <LittleRed> Polah: the Sony site only has drivers for evil windows machines
[04:38] <niteshade> MY NUTS ARE A NATIONAL TREASURE!!!
[04:38] <niteshade> besides, there actually is a wifi by me named deeznuts.  It's kinda wierd.
[04:38] <draven_sol> shcherbak, date +%h%m + 30 minutes
[04:38] <Polah> LittleRed: Perhaps look for drivers you'd have to compile yourself?
[04:39] <Stryker> where did bzb go?
[04:39] <LittleRed> Polah: that's what I was thinking... I'm ok with that process,but wasn't sure what the little bar was called
[04:39] <niteshade> say, does anyone know how to connect to a wifi hotspot through bash?
[04:40] <rww> niteshade: I use cnetworkmanager
[04:40] <LittleRed> Polah: thanks for the help, if I can't find anything I'll be back tomorrow  :-)
[04:40] <draven_sol> niteshade, iwconfig might help you out, but i haven't checked it
[04:41] <niteshade> yeah, you see nm-applet won't show up anywhere on my panel.  It runs in the background and pops up when it automatically connects me to my home wifi.
[04:41] <niteshade> prob is that without having it on my panel, i can't connect to anything besides my home wifi
[04:42] <shcherbak> draven_sol: convert it (date) to minutes (h*60+m) add 30 and divide by 60, you can use bc.
[04:42] <draven_sol> shcherbak, thanks
[04:43] <shcherbak> draven_sol: one sec, i think i have something similar here
[04:44] <randomuser> hmm...
[04:44]  * randomuser rephrases
[04:44] <randomuser> does anyone have experience doing a netinstall with a local mirror?
[04:45] <needhelp1> randomuser, do you do that from the ubuntu server install? ive never done a net install, sounds cool though
[04:46] <Stradivarius>  /names
[04:46] <Stradivarius> shit
[04:46] <Stradivarius> that's a lot of people O.o
[04:46] <rsync> hi is there anyway of setting up an rsync to copy /var/mail without being a root user?
[04:47] <shcherbak> draven_sol: http://paste.ubuntu.com/580429/ there is example how to convert time and add, etc, sorry for mess in code.
[04:48] <randomuser> needhelp1, one should be able to do it from any install
[04:48] <Korny1> overclucker I'm looking at what you suggested I'm not sure if it applies to what I'm trying to do however.  All I'm trying to do is grep the output of ffmpeg -i filename which is only about 20 lines long
[04:49] <the> SUP
[04:49] <beacher> hi,all
[04:49] <Korny1> I'm not working with a large amount of data
[04:49] <Guest23974> bigblakc
[04:49] <Guest23974> bigblack/NICK
[04:49] <Guest23974> fuuuuuuuuu
[04:49] <Guest23974> lol
[04:50] <rww> o.O
[04:50] <shcherbak> draven_sol: and this http://paste.ubuntu.com/580430/ to convert back.
[04:51] <Guest23974> hello everyone
[04:51] <draven_sol> shcherbak, thanks, that should be what i need
[04:51] <Korny1> Any of the recent joiners good with with bash scripting namely grep :/
[04:53] <rsync> hi ive set up a crontab to iniate a rsync every 10 minutes to copy over /var/mail from one server to another. it works when using root but not a standard user. Can some please confirm if i have to be a root user to touch /var/mail?
[04:53] <dr_Willis> that makes sence rsync...
[04:53] <dr_Willis> you dont want users just messing with any system dirs...
[04:54] <dr_Willis> you can setup cron jobs to run as root.
 could i use sudo?
[04:54] <rww> rsync: it's owned by root:mail on my system, so you'd need to be either the mail or root user, yes.
[04:54] <rsync> THANK YOU!!!!!
[04:55] <The_Thing> How do I mount a drive as a different user without logging out of my current one?
[04:55] <rsync> is there anyway i could use a SUDO?
[04:55] <penos> im so horney
[04:55] <penos> i can't control my horney level
[04:55] <rsync> my workplace are not too happy about me using root to complete the sync
[04:55] <rww> penos: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. I recommend you use it for such.
[04:55] <bastidrazor> penos: you can't spell either.
[04:56] <rww> rsync: use "sudo crontab -u mail -e" to put it in mail's crontab, perhaps?
[04:56] <bawnio> hey, penos, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:56] <bawnio> ull love it there
[04:57] <rww> bawnio: That topic's also offtopic for #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:57] <bawnio> ?
[04:57] <dr_Willis> go to #standinacorner  :)
[04:57] <bawnio> what do u mean rww
[04:57] <spencer_> hey guys, quick question.. anyone know of a way to make terminal play a sound upon the completion of each command?
[04:58] <dr_Willis> Ot channel dosen twant rude stuff either
[04:58] <dr_Willis> spencer put a beep command in your prompt.
[04:58] <rww> bawnio: #ubuntu-offtopic does not mean "free for all". It has rules too. Those rules make penos' mental state offtopic for that channel and this one.
[04:58] <dr_Willis> but that can get annoying.
  thanks!!!!
[04:58] <norbex> Hello to everyone~!
[04:59] <bawnio> rww have u ever BEEN in offtopic?
[04:59] <spencer_> erm.. just did a sudo apt-get install beep, and the beep command seems to not do anything
[04:59] <rww> bawnio: Yes.
[04:59] <bastidrazor> bawnio: if you're asking that.. apparently you have never been there.
[05:00] <overclucker> Korny1: what do you want to do twith the output?
[05:00] <bawnio> oh i have, with a diff persona!
[05:00] <bawnio> Stryker
[05:00] <bawnio> just ask stryker
[05:00] <rww> Anyways, your exploits or lack thereof in #ubuntu-offtopic are also not Ubuntu support related ;P
[05:01] <Stryker> hey everybody
[05:01] <Stryker> bawnio, i am possibly not u
[05:01] <spencer_> okay, how about aliasing universally? perhaps something like "alias cp {0} "cp {0} && beepCommand" "
[05:01] <spencer_> is that allowed?
[05:01] <spencer_> or
[05:01] <spencer_> possible i suppose would be a better term
[05:02] <shcherbak> draven_sol: or: date --date="$(date +%H) +30 minutes"
[05:02] <death-berry> wassup
[05:02] <death-berry> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropa_belladonna
[05:03] <rww> death-berry: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. Horticulture is not Ubuntu technical support. Go tell #ubuntu-offtopic.
[05:04] <rickmasta> Someone mind helping with with installing git?
[05:04] <rickmasta> Following the tutorial on the ubuntu website
[05:04] <bawnio> lol, rww perfect response
[05:05] <rww> rickmasta: install the 'git-core' package in your favorite package manager. For example, sudo apt-get install git-core
[05:05] <spencer_> no more suggestions for terminal bells? :(
[05:05] <rickmasta> and it says "sudo -H -u gitosis gitosis-init < initialKeyFileName"
[05:05] <rickmasta> what's initialKeyFileNAme?
[05:05] <rickmasta> id_rsa? or id_rsa.pub?
[05:05] <rww> rickmasta: Can you link to the tutorial you're using?
[05:06] <rickmasta> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git
[05:06] <rww> rickmasta: id_rsa.pub, I think.
[05:06] <rickmasta> k
[05:06] <rww> rickmasta: (id_rsa is your private key, not public key)
[05:08] <eckirchn> hello
[05:15] <hiexpo> is there a way for me to backup my repos and keys in case something goes south again
[05:19] <OMGeek> hey anyone to chat ?
[05:19] <eckirchn> hiexpo: backup your repos?
[05:19] <OMGeek> pvt me
[05:19] <Auriga> hiexpo, I think they are on a site no?
[05:19] <The_Thing> How do I mount a drive as a different user without logging out of my current one?
[05:19] <eckirchn> OMGeek: who?
[05:20] <OMGeek> what ?
[05:20] <eckirchn> The_Thing: su <user> then try to mount, but don't you mount all your drives as root?
[05:20] <OMGeek> why not ?
[05:21] <eckirchn> OMGeek: what are you trying to do, what is the end purpose?
[05:21] <OMGeek> dont ubuntiu mount drives with out user intervention ?
[05:21] <jiltdil> is there any way to open tty mode terminal  in virtual box
[05:21] <OMGeek> im to far off from my end porpuse to clearlly see it
[05:22] <eckirchn> OMGeek: you want a user to plug a USB or Flash card in and it mount?
[05:22] <OMGeek> isnt that the ubuntu way ?
[05:23] <eckirchn> OMGeek: or most modern operating systems.. is that what you want, and is that not happening?
[05:23] <OMGeek> stfu
[05:23] <eckirchn> OMGeek: stfu?  is that an insult?
[05:23] <OMGeek> talk to The_Thing
[05:23] <hiexpo> eckirchn, yes not as in backup all the stuff at the repos sites   as in there links and gpg keys
[05:24] <OMGeek> yes its an insult
[05:24] <eckirchn> hiexpo: i run a local repository, and i use rsync to maintain it..
[05:24] <IdleOne> !language | OMGeek
[05:24] <The_Thing> huh?
[05:24] <rww> OMGeek: Perhaps you should read the guidelines linked in the channel /topic
[05:24] <hiexpo> eckirchn, oh ok good idea
[05:24] <silvery> Hi. I got Acer laptop with Ubuntu. grub2 just gives GRUB and blinking cursor on boot. Any suggestions?
[05:25] <eckirchn> hiexpo:it works great to keep 5 machines up to date, with a low bandwith dsl line
[05:25] <OMGeek> !language | eckirchn
[05:25] <OMGeek> i can do that too
[05:25] <glitchd> can i install and use both unity and gnome on 10.04?
[05:25] <eckirchn> OMGeek: find help from someone else...
[05:25] <OMGeek> lol
[05:26] <eckirchn> OMGeek: no lol..
[05:26] <OMGeek> was i asking for your help ?
[05:26] <shcherbak> OMGeek: Come to #LiketoBootYou
[05:26] <rww> eckirchn: just ignore them, please.
[05:26] <juk> !help
[05:26] <hiexpo> eckirchn, ok
[05:26] <glitchd> uhh......is anyone gonna answer my question?
[05:26] <eckirchn> i am good.. would like to help, but not under that form..
[05:26] <OMGeek> shcherbak:  got #foad
[05:26] <glitchd> does anyone know?
[05:27] <eckirchn> glitchd: what is your question?
[05:27] <eckirchn> glitchd: recently logged in...
[05:27] <glitchd> eckirchn, ok thx
[05:27] <glitchd> eckirchn, can i install and use both unity and gnome in 10.04?
[05:28] <OMGeek> ~why was some one trying to help me if i didnt ask for any help ?!
[05:28] <OMGeek> ^thats proposterous
[05:28] <rww> OMGeek: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. If you don't need Ubuntu technical support and don't plan on providing it, you may prefer #ubuntu-offtopic.
[05:28] <shcherbak> glitchd: For sure you can install ubuntu-netbook alongside ubuntu-desktop
[05:29] <OMGeek> i was helping The_Thing
[05:29] <eckirchn> glitchd: would think so, can't speak to it, but used to run gnome and enlightenment back in the days..  does apt-get provide an error when you try to install?
[05:29] <glitchd> eckirchn, no i have not attempted it, yet
[05:29] <rww> !who > OMGeek
[05:29] <glitchd> i just recently decided that i wanted to try it out
[05:29] <eckirchn> glitchd: you should, but you'll need to tell X11 which one to load...
[05:30] <glitchd> but everytime i use anything after 10.04, things dont act right
[05:30] <eckirchn> glitchd: I think your safe with gnome...
[05:30] <glitchd> eckirchn, does it become an option on the login screen?
[05:30] <glitchd> like the kde option?
[05:31] <OMGeek> rww: why dont you split up the channel into several ones ?
[05:31] <glitchd> err...i mean environment selector?
[05:31] <IdleOne> !ot | OMGeek
[05:31] <eckirchn> glitchd don't use it, it is heaver on resources.. then gnome.. gnome works great.. try avant window navigator.. cool..
[05:32] <glitchd> eckirchn, so its really not worth it then, huh?
[05:32] <OMGeek> that way it would be esyear to help with out so much crosstalking
[05:32] <rww> OMGeek: go ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, I'm sure they'll be happy to re-re-re-rehash that topic.
[05:32] <glitchd> eckirchn, ive heard such rave reviews about it
[05:32] <juk> !pm | OMGeek
[05:32] <OMGeek> you havent treied genome 3 ?
[05:32] <eckirchn> glitchd: i like K3B witch is a cd/dvd burner, so i have the libs installed to use it, but i don't run KDE.. you can.. choose for yourself.. it doesn't hurt, harddrive space is cheap these days..
[05:33] <glitchd> eckirchn, i dont ever use kde, the few times i did, it just reminded me of windows too much so i stopped using it
[05:33] <needlez> glitchd: sup?
[05:33] <glitchd> eckirchn, i prefer gnome
[05:33] <eckirchn> glitchd: i run gnome with AWM, and like it.. granted it looks plain, i stil have compiz..
[05:34] <glitchd> needlez, yoo man!!! how goes it?!?
[05:34] <eckirchn> glitchd: k3d was SUPPOSED to look like Windows..
[05:34] <OMGeek> i dont know what else to instal to fill up my 3 TB HDD
[05:34] <cptmorgan> what would be the easiest way to run the jaunty kernel on hardy?
[05:34] <glitchd> needlez, that was directed at u
[05:34] <glitchd> needlez, its jus late..lol
[05:34] <eckirchn> OMGeek you paid money for a 3 TB?
[05:34] <OMGeek> i feel like i have most of the internet inside my computer
[05:35] <eckirchn> OMGeek lots of data to lose when the drive fails.. i run 4 1TB in a RAID5.. much safer
[05:35] <shcherbak> OMGeek: 3 TB? Get deludge!
[05:35] <n2i> :D
[05:35] <needlez> glitchd: yea i see, i pm you instead
[05:35] <eckirchn> shcherbak deludge?
[05:35] <needlez> its ok, other then being stuck on trying to figure out how to limit a files size
[05:36] <shcherbak> ups, deluge
[05:36] <eckirchn> shcherbak ok, deluge?
[05:36] <n2i> Anyone using tint2? Please help me to fix this problem!
[05:36] <OMGeek> brrent is eligal in my country
[05:36] <shcherbak> transmission, but better
[05:36] <OMGeek> torrent is ilegal in my country
[05:37] <shcherbak> OMGeek: Where do you live? Portugal?
[05:37] <OMGeek> besids the rest of the world doesnt need to know what im downloading
[05:37] <OMGeek> how did you guess ?
[05:38] <shcherbak> OMGeek: /whois OMGeek
[05:38] <neil_d> what packet has the libgd header files (e.g. gd.h) ?   I can't find any package like libgd-dev
[05:38] <juk> !ot nobody cares  | OMGeek
[05:39] <OMGeek> i ju7st did /whois shch.... but it doesnt say what your coutry is ?
[05:40] <OMGeek> no body cares about what ?
[05:40] <syrinx_> lol juk
[05:42] <needlez> well nite ppl
[05:43] <miketomdool> nighty night needlez
[05:43] <whoaski> when I minimize a window on my desktop it doesn't appear in the tool bar on the bottom, it's still there using alt + tab but I don't know whats up. anybody else have this problem?
[05:44] <miketomdool> whoaski right click on your taskbar
[05:44] <miketomdool> click add to panel
[05:44] <evilvish> whoaski: are you on the same workspace where you minimized it?
[05:44] <whoaski> yeah
[05:44] <whoaski> ok mike I'm there
[05:45] <MACscr> ok, i do a lot of web development and work on a lot of different projects at once. I have started moving each project into its own gnome workspace. Is there a way to save a workspace session so that when i want to work on a project again, it will open up all the same documents/windows i had open when i had last saved that workspace "session"?
[05:45] <OMGeek> MACscr: afirmative
[05:46] <miketomdool> there should be a taskbar thing or something
[05:47] <whoaski> yeah the window list
[05:47] <whoaski>  it worked thanks mike
[05:47] <miketomdool> yup no problem ::)
[05:47] <MACscr> OMGeek: you going to expand on that answer? =)
[05:48] <OMGeek> just instead of shuting down use suspend
[05:48] <whoaski> what do you get when you mix an elephant and a rino?
[05:49] <evilvish> MACscr: project to workspace? or application to workspace?
[05:49] <OMGeek> the nest ubuntu code name ?
[05:49] <MACscr> evilvish: project
[05:49] <miketomdool> what do you get whoaski
[05:49] <whoaski> hell if I know
[05:49] <miketomdool> ha ha :p
[05:49] <miketomdool> i get it
[05:50] <whoaski> thanks man
[05:50] <evilvish> MACscr: if you are using compiz, you can use the plugin : Place windows
[05:51] <OMGeek> miketomdool: you didnt get it
[05:51] <evilvish> MACscr: there is also devilspie, i think it would work with metacity too, (works with compiz)
[05:51] <evilvish> !ot | whoaski miketomdool OMGeek
[05:52] <neil_d> how do I update the apt keys?
[05:52] <OMGeek> evilvish: im not assosiated in any way with them
[05:52] <evilvish> OMGeek: no need to be associated, just not the topic for discussion here :)
[05:52] <evilvish> !away > Aaron5367|detach:
[05:52] <MACscr> evilvish: i dont think either of those have anything to do with sessions
[05:53] <whoaski> sorry no harm done I'm out
[05:53] <evilvish> MACscr: you can set set which workspace to open them
[05:54] <ben64> Hello. What should I type to download an ATI/AMD driver with 3d support, and what to change in my xorg.conf to use it?
[05:54] <evilvish> MACscr: but, there is no autosave workspace for each instance..
[05:54] <MACscr> thats just going to open a specific program in a specific area. Its not going to open 3 specific documents for the project, its ftp folder, its local projects folder, etc, etc
[05:55] <MACscr> yeah, its to bad there isnt something related to that. Would be helpful to a lot of people
[05:56] <evilvish> MACscr: yup, the closest are those two options :)
[05:56] <MACscr> which arent even close =P
[05:56] <MACscr> but thanks
[05:56] <syrinx_> for some reason, irssi can't find the scripts I have in the directory, and suggestions? v0.8.15
[05:56] <MACscr> i might just do virtualboxes and save them instead of shutting them down
[05:56] <shcherbak> MACscr: bash and devilspie will do anything you want.
[05:57] <MACscr> shcherbak: if i had time to waste with making those type of things, i wouldnt be needing such a solution
[05:57] <AndroUser> hey!
[05:57] <Zach> Zack
[05:59] <zackify> anyone know of some awesome stuff to install on Ubuntu server edition?
[05:59] <ben64> What should I type to download an ATI/AMD driver with 3d support, and what to change in my xorg.conf to use it?
[06:00] <zackify> are you on the desktop version?
[06:00] <eckirchn> zackify: it's a server, you don't want any awesome stuff... right?
[06:00] <ben64> me? yeah.
[06:00] <MACscr> ben64: why not just use the Additional Drivers too?
[06:00] <MACscr> eckirchn: +1
[06:00] <ben64> MACscr: huh?
[06:00] <MACscr> er, tool
[06:00] <zackify> just go to additional drivers and it should be there
[06:00] <ben64> MACscr: well i'm stuck in console currently
[06:01] <zackify> try one and see if it works fine
[06:01] <zackify> I'm talking to Ben btw
[06:01] <ben64> PSU decided not to have enough power to make my video card work anymore, so i switched to the onboard
[06:01] <ben64> and the onboard is AMD instead of Nvidia
[06:02] <eckirchn> ben64: really? how do you know? do you have an external power connected to the video card if required?
[06:02] <ben64> eckirchn: significant voltage drop on the 12v
[06:02] <Pranav_rcmas> I did a sudo -i and entered root, and now sudo usermod -p '!' root doesn't drop root privileges. Assistance please?
[06:03] <neil_d> when I do a "gpg --keyserver au.archive.ubuntu.com --search-keys ftpmaster@ubuntu.com" I get the error "gpgkeys: HTTP search error 7: Failed to connect to 2001:388:30bc:cafe::beef: Network is unreachable"  what do I do about this?  I don't have ipv6.
[06:03] <outhacker> hello
[06:04] <eckirchn> ben64: ouch low powersupply or high powered card?
[06:04] <eckirchn> Pranav_rcmas: what are you trying to do?
[06:04] <ben64> eckirchn: i'm thinking the PSU is just reaching the end of it's journey. 500w, which should be enough for my system
[06:04] <miketomdool> Pranav_rcmas type logout to get out of root and back to your previous user
[06:05] <ben64> anyway, how can i get the amd/ati driver? irssi is scary
[06:05] <Pranav_rcmas> miketomdool, thanks!
[06:05] <miketomdool> Your welcome
[06:05] <eckirchn> ben64: 500 watts is quite a bit of power.. i run 6 drives with a 500w.... but i buy brand name supplies
[06:06] <ben64> eckirchn: yeah, but capacitors don't live forever
[06:08] <eckirchn> ben64: decades..
[06:08] <eckirchn> ben64: unless you run really hot..
[06:09] <Rypervenche> Does anyone use irssi?
[06:10] <eckirchn> Rypervenche: nope
[06:10] <neil_d> when I do a "gpg --keyserver au.archive.ubuntu.com --search-keys ftpmaster@ubuntu.com" I get the error "gpgkeys: HTTP search error 7: Failed to connect to 2001:388:30bc:cafe::beef: Network is unreachable"  what do I do about this?  I don't have ipv6.  Is there an ipv4 address?
[06:10] <outhacker> i'm don't
[06:11] <panfist> Rypervenche, yes
[06:11] <ben64> i'm using it now :(
[06:11] <Rypervenche> Are there any advantages to using it over xChat?
[06:11] <panfist> why sad face?
[06:12] <ben64> irssi is no fun
[06:12] <panfist> i ike it
[06:12] <panfist> you could probably configure xchat to do this,
[06:12] <panfist> but i use irssi running 24/7 in a screen session that i ssh into from anywhere
[06:12] <Jordan_U> Rypervenche: You can use it in combination with screen to keep a persistant IRC connection that you can connect to from other machines.
[06:12] <panfist> so my chatrooms are always on, always logging
[06:13] <panfist> why is it no fun?
[06:13] <Ben64> cause text irc is hard to see
[06:13] <Ben64> <3 xchat
[06:13] <panfist> irc is text
[06:13] <Rypervenche> Ahhh, I see. What would I have to do on the server end to be able to do that?
[06:13] <Ben64> shh, no its not
[06:14] <Ben64> Rypervenche: use screen before you do anything
[06:14] <Jordan_U> !screen | Rypervenche
[06:14] <Rypervenche> Ben64: Thank you :)
[06:14] <panfist> you can run screen, then create new "screens" that you can switch between
[06:14] <Ben64> now to see if i get 3d acceleration on radeon...
[06:14] <Ben64> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":1.0".
[06:14] <Ben64> :(
[06:15] <panfist> the same issue has been bothering me for the last three days
[06:15] <panfist> which ati card do you have
[06:15] <Ben64> it's an onboard
[06:15] <panfist> mine too
[06:15] <panfist> 3200
[06:15] <Ben64> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9715
[06:16] <neil_d> when I do a "gpg --keyserver au.archive.ubuntu.com --search-keys ftpmaster@ubuntu.com" I get the error "gpgkeys: HTTP search error 7: Failed to connect to 2001:388:30bc:cafe::beef: Network is unreachable"  what do I do about this?  I don't have ipv6.  Is there an ipv4 address?
[06:16] <panfist> are you trying to use the radeon open source driver>
[06:16] <Ben64> au.archive.ubuntu.com is an alias for mirror.aarnet.edu.au.
[06:16] <Ben64> mirror.aarnet.edu.au has address 202.158.214.106
[06:17] <Ben64> panfist: yes.
[06:17] <Ben64> i guess i can live without 3d for a week
[06:17] <panfist> i gave up and used the proprietary driver but i dont know if it covers a 9715
[06:19] <Ben64> ... i better be able to watch videos
[06:22] <dr_Willis> Oh the humanity of it. :)
[06:23] <Rypervenche> Ben64: So I start a terminal, run screen, then irssi....how can I ssh to it?
[06:23] <josheee12_> hi guys
[06:23] <Jordan_U> Rypervenche: Read the link from ubottu.
[06:24] <dr_Willis> Rypervenche:  you ssh in and reconnect the screen session
[06:24] <c4cookies> how do i share internet ubuntu *connected to wireless and share internet with windows 7 with wire?
[06:24] <dr_Willis> !ics
[06:24] <josheee12_> is there any way to do semitransparency on windows without compositing?
[06:24] <Jordan_U> c4cookies: System > Preferences > Network Connections. Create a new "shared" connection for ethernet.
[06:25] <Jordan_U> josheee12_: No.
[06:25] <Rypervenche> dr_Willis: By doing "screen -r"?
[06:26] <dr_Willis> with screen,., it PAYS to go read the screen docs/man pages and guides..
[06:26] <dr_Willis> i dont use it enouigh to even rember.
[06:26] <josheee12_> one of my graphics cards is unsupported with the proprietary driver, so i'm stuck :(
[06:27] <bEe_> hi
[06:27] <bEe_> please help: which debian is binary compatible with ubuntu 9.04?
[06:27] <neil_d> seems there is a mistake in the repositories when I try to install libfreetype6-dev I get the error "Depends: libfreetype6 (=2.4.2-2) but 2.4.2-2ubuntu0.1 is to be installed" why the mismatch in the name?
[06:27] <bEe_> i have some old h/w, which only suitable with 9.04. But i need small size linux (e.g. 100Mb including X-server)
[06:28] <webPragmatist> how do i determin which mta is installed
[06:28] <dr_Willis> bee_ you do not want to mixx in debian packages on a ubuntu system
[06:28] <guyschaos> hi
[06:28] <guyschaos> 大家好
[06:29] <bEe_> dr_Willis, i just want to install debian instead of 9.04. But i need the same XOrg and kernel version
[06:29] <bEe_> i've tried gentoo, because it is possible to make small distro, but failed because of xorg version
[06:29] <bEe_> i use via driver
[06:30] <evilvish> !cn | guyschaos
[06:30] <dr_Willis> no idea on mixxing them in like that. its a little beyond the scope of the Ubuntu-support channels    role.
[06:30] <dr_Willis> there are minimal ubuntu setups you can do
[06:30] <neil_d> seems there is a mistake in the repositories when I try to install libfreetype6-dev I get the error "Depends: libfreetype6 (=2.4.2-2) but 2.4.2-2ubuntu0.1 is to be installed" why the mismatch in the version seems to be a mistake?
[06:31] <dr_Willis> the ubuntu ones may havce some ubuntu specific patches or similer.
[06:31] <guyschaos> thx
[06:31] <dr_Willis> and the otherpavkage is not wanting the ubuntu version but the debian version. (is my guess)
[06:32] <neil_d> dr_Willis: but shouldn't the libfreetype6-dev depend on the libfreetype6 version that is actually in the repositories.
[06:33] <webPragmatist> guys?
[06:34] <webPragmatist> what's the default mta for ubuntu lts?
[06:35] <neil_d> webPragmatist: I believe it exim4
[06:35] <asfjio> hello, guys! is it possible to delete all my files permanently (not only mark them as deleted) when i want to return a computer which i used, but which is not mine? the OS is Ubuntu 10.10.
[06:36] <Mithran> dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda
[06:36] <Mithran> from live cd
[06:36] <webPragmatist> neil_d: no way
[06:36] <Glutsch> lo
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> Mithran: that will need sudo
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Mithran: Why did you post that command?
[06:37] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: It won't work for other reasons as well.
[06:37] <neil_d> Mithran: woundn't that be "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda"
[06:38] <dr_Willis> there are secure file deletion tools in the repos
[06:38] <tanath> don't suppose anyone knows how to deal with this error? (installing diablo 2) http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2367#c8
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: its a new 3rd state for binary ;)
[06:38] <Mithran> I thought it may solve asfjio: problem...im sorry i forgot to mention his name.
[06:38] <digitaldefector> can't set realtek usb wireless card on any distro
[06:38] <digitaldefector> hi lugs
[06:39] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: I didn't realize they already had qbit storage :)
[06:39] <neil_d> seems there is a mistake in the repositories when I try to install libfreetype6-dev I get the error "Depends: libfreetype6 (=2.4.2-2) but 2.4.2-2ubuntu0.1 is to be installed" why the mismatch in the version seems to be a mistake?  I need to fix this up so I can install libgd header files.
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> digitaldefector: run: lsusb    use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[06:40] <asfjio> Mithran: i want to delete only my personal files, because i need to return it with the OS installed and all software configured. is it possible without deleting all the drive?
[06:40] <phoe6> I want a user to be able to write inside a folder in my home directory, I have added him to my group and giving directory the permission 765. But still I get permission denined.
[06:40] <venkatesh> hello
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> neil_d: log a bug
[06:40] <venkatesh> can anybody tell me how to install a .deb file
[06:40] <asfjio> dr_Willis: can i name some of them, because i don't know none of them?
[06:41] <asfjio> dr_Willis: *can you
[06:41] <tanath> i'm using wine 1.2.2 and still getting this problem http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2367#c8
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> tanath: what version of wine do you have?
[06:41] <venkatesh> can anybody tell me how to install a .deb file
[06:41] <tanath> ActionParsnip, 1.2.2
[06:41] <Mithran> venkatesh: $dpkg -i
[06:41] <tanath> venkatesh, double-click it
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> venkatesh: sudo dpkg -i filename
[06:41] <grandioseAlias> dpkg -i foo.deb
[06:42] <tanath> lol
[06:42] <digitaldefector> ActionParsnip, man pages ? :)
[06:42] <tanath> odd how everyone pointlessly points to terminal first
[06:42] <murat> holaaaaaaaa
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> tanath: add the wine ppa and you can get 1.3
[06:42] <venkatesh> oh....thank you for the information the package as been installed...
[06:42] <eckirchn> tantanath: real linux is done at command line
[06:43] <tanath> eckirchn, no
[06:43] <grandioseAlias> Huh, I keep forgetting that there's a graphical way to install packages
[06:43] <digitaldefector> ActionParsnip, it recognizes and then turns it off
[06:43] <murat> turkce anlayan varmi
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> tanath: irc is a text based environment, so its logical
[06:43] <tanath> grandioseAlias, there's several
[06:43] <tanath> ActionParsnip, hardly
[06:43] <tanath> ActionParsnip, there's no relation...
[06:43] <digitaldefector> I have a beautiful women on my bed why am i here!!!!
[06:43] <digitaldefector> what should I do
[06:44] <tanath> digitaldefector, teach her linux, obviously :P
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> digitaldefector: when it turns off, run: dmesg | tail   it may give clues
[06:44] <cosmo> put the keyboard down it will still be here after she is gone
[06:44] <eckirchn> tanath pretty sure it is.. gui
[06:44] <grandioseAlias> I hope you aren't seriously asking us for advise
[06:44] <grandioseAlias> advice**
[06:44] <tanath> ActionParsnip, had 1.3 before. don't think that's the prob. i had installed it successfully before years ago...
[06:45] <Mithran> Is there a way to install Kingsoft office using Wine?...I tried there seems to be a bug which is closed...but when I try to open a .et file I it displays some sort of pdf telling me the name of the kingsoft website.
[06:45] <tanath> ActionParsnip, d2 lod that is
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> tanath: what's easier in irc; writing "click this click that scroll down click other" or a single command a user can copy and paste (and edit if needed)
[06:46] <tanath> ActionParsnip, higher consideration is what's easier for them?
[06:46] <tanath> ActionParsnip, simple, double-click it
[06:46] <phoe6> I want a user to be able to write inside a folder in my home directory, I have added him to my group and giving directory the permission 765. But still I get permission denined. (How do I accomplish this scenario?)
[06:46] <webPragmatist> can i just drop /etc/mail if i am not using sendmail?
[06:47] <c4cookies> what is my ip ?how i check for my ip??
[06:47] <webPragmatist> i'm using postfix
[06:47] <c4cookies> with command
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> tanath: have you checked the appdb? They usually have a nice how to
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> c4cookies: ifconfig
[06:47] <c4cookies> im trying share internet with ubuntu with winds 7
[06:47] <adhown> ipconfig
[06:47] <tanath> ActionParsnip, pretty sure i'm not doing it wrong. it's an error in the middle of upgrading
[06:47] <c4cookies> i've set up everything
[06:47] <c4cookies> on windows side do i need to do anything else
[06:47] <c4cookies> ?
[06:48] <tanath> ActionParsnip, and i'm not the only one with the problem
[06:48] <tanath> c4cookies, depends, local/LAN ip, or public ip?
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> c4cookies: for wan ip visit www.ipchicken.com
[06:48] <Syria> Hi, What is the best program to create to do lists in your opinion please?
[06:48] <Froodle> Really bizarre question here: I dual-boot 10.10 with Win7.  After logging into 10.10 I get a pixelated/artifacted flash of the Win7 screen I was just using.  I've seen both the wallpaper and the applications I was using.  Anyone know why?
[06:49] <tanath> Froodle, swap file prolly
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> c4cookies: how does windows affect the ubuntu install? Is it a vm?
[06:49] <c4cookies> well its a 108.xx.x.xxx
[06:49] <Froodle> tanath, Can I clear it before restart?  I'm worried about the security implications.
[06:49] <c4cookies> i have a pc windows 7 and laptop ubuntu
[06:50] <c4cookies> i've set up the network connection
[06:50] <Shvonder> c4cookies: greeting
[06:50] <tripelb> FYI - in chrome. I closed msnbc (brian williams) and it kept playing. . and playing. I had to go to (chrome>tools>task-manager) and shut down shockwave-flash
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> tanath: i'd ask in #winehq its more specific to your need
[06:50] <tripelb> hi ActionParsnip
[06:50] <c4cookies> ipv4 to shared to other computers
[06:50] <tanath> Froodle, you can give linux it's own swap partition and then you wouldn't see that, but anyone with physical access to your computer can do what they want anyway
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Hi tripelb
[06:50] <tanath> ActionParsnip, mm.. thx
[06:51] <grandioseAlias> Does anyone know if there's a way to configure /etc/hosts to effectively redirect any domain to a specified ip address?
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: shockwave is wi
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> Windows only
[06:51] <Froodle> tanath, Okay.  Guess it won't matter then.  Thank you.
[06:51] <Syria> Please help me to find a to do lists creator.
[06:51] <tanath> Froodle, turning of swap in windows is a bad idea..
[06:51] <c4cookies> what i need to do next on windows side?
[06:51] <c4cookies> anyone know
[06:52] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: I went to chrome task manager and found a task called shockwave-flash. That's what it says. FYI.
[06:52] <neil_d> ActionParsnip: I think I have reported the bug, not positive thou, I am not sure the 'ubuntu-bug' program did everything.
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> c4cookies: what are you trying to achieve?
[06:53] <Mithran> neil_d: when I do "cat /dev/null > a" it gets emptied "cat /dev/zero > a", it just gets stuck...i cant understand the difference
[06:53] <Mithran> please help
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> neil_d: it should open a browser and you can type or paste text
[06:54] <c4cookies> connection to the internet
[06:54] <c4cookies> on my pc
[06:54] <c4cookies> wiring to my laptop
[06:54] <c4cookies> laptop have wireless . but not pc
[06:54] <tanath> Mithran, they're two different things... null is nothing- not even zero... zero is something that _means_ nothing
[06:54] <c4cookies> ive connected the wire to pc
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> !ics | c4cookies
[06:54] <joshmclvl1> Mithran: cat /dev/null is nothingness. cat /dev/zero is complete zeros. you have to interupt the cat zero eventually with ctrl-z.
[06:54] <c4cookies> doesn;t help at all
[06:55] <tanath> joshmclvl1, Mithran ctrl+z sends to background, not interrupts. ctrl+c does that
[06:55]  * joshmclvl1 prefixes reply to Mithran with "maybe" and shrugs
[06:55]  * joshmclvl1 slaps forehead
[06:55] <joshmclvl1> tyty tanath.
[06:55] <neil_d> Mithran: I don't know about reading from /dev/null but I think you will find that with the second example the file "a" will have data in it.
[06:57] <Firefishe> I'm using 10.04 -- I'm having an issue with certain programs with embedded links.  They seem to like to open konqueror for the web browser, and this causes konqueror to mutate into a runaway process, spawning endless windows.  What might be my problem?
[06:57] <hipitihop> a networking question: If I have wireless router bridged ---> main router with dhcp/linux all on same subnet 192.168.0.x and I want to allow one wireless laptop onboard but restrict it to only see internet not rest of network, how can I do that
[06:57] <neil_d> ActionParsnip: well it did with only a 'continue' button in it... but when I clicked on that it said there was a 'OpenId' failure of some kind.
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Mithran: /dev/null is nothing, basically an empty file when reading from it (and a black hole when writing to it). /dev/zero outputs all zeroes.
[06:58] <Mithran> is /dev/zero a black hole when writing to? and how do I stop it?
[06:58] <tanath> Firefishe, not sure why konq is having a fit, but you can change your default browser..
[06:58] <Jordan_U> Mithran: ctrl+C
[06:59] <neil_d> Mithran: you input runs out...
[06:59] <Ben64> Mithran: /dev/null is a black hole
[06:59] <Mithran> for instance i want to see the contents of the file after doing a /dev/zero, but it just hangs
[06:59] <Jordan_U> Mithran: And you'll probably want to delete the file that you just created as it's probably multiple GiB large by now.
[06:59] <Firefishe> tanath:  firefox  is my default browser...konqueror shouldn't even open.
[06:59] <Mithran> it is i just checked
[06:59] <Ben64> Mithran: what are you trying to do?
[06:59] <Mithran> can i see the contents
[06:59] <tanath> Mithran, /dev/null sends nothing. /dev/zero sends zeros... and will continue until you ctrl+c it or whatever
[07:00] <Firefishe> tanath: The sofware with which I'm having a problem is pokerth 0.8.x.  I'm wondering if those links are hard-coded to open konqueror.
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Mithran: Think of /dev/zero as an infinitely large file containing all zero bits.
[07:00] <tanath> Firefishe, there are multiple places default browser can be set.. (ie., multiple defaults) but if it's embedded stuff, check firefoxs application settings for file types & such
[07:00] <neil_d> Mithran: /dev/zero is an endless source of zeros ... so "cat /dev/zero > a" followed by a hexdump of "hd a" should show things
[07:00] <tanath> Firefishe, pokerth has it's own settings for browser
[07:01] <Firefishe> tanath: This issue with konqueror has been going on for some time now.  I haven't checked the bug list in a while, though.
[07:01] <tanath> Firefishe, when you said 'embedded' i thought you mean embedded in a web page. that's not the same
[07:02] <xiaoyi> kk'
[07:02] <Firefishe> tanath: no settings for browser that I can see
[07:03] <tanath> Firefishe, you're right, i'm not finding it either... but i tried clicking a link in settings and it opened in chromium (my default)...
[07:03] <Firefishe> hmmm
[07:03] <Firefishe> chromium crashes on my system
[07:03] <tanath> Firefishe, o.O
[07:03] <felipe__> any help me
[07:03] <Firefishe> I like it, too :(
[07:03] <Mithran> thanks neil_d:
[07:03] <tanath> Firefishe, unfortunate, it's the best :p
[07:03] <tanath> Firefishe, run from terminal to find why?
[07:03] <felipe__> alguien habla español
[07:04] <tanath> !spanish
[07:04] <xiaoyi> 有中国人嘛
[07:05] <Firefishe> wow, I can see chinese :)
[07:05] <tanath> lol
[07:05] <Firefishe> kvirc....love it!
[07:05] <bullgard> After Maverick coldstarts itwrites to the virtual console 1 : "System inormation as of Sat Mar 12 15:51:57 CET 2011. System load, Temperature Usage of /home, Processes: Memory Usage: Users logged in, Swap usage, IP address for eth0. -- What program prints this information?
[07:05] <wildbill> im having trouble making a live CD data persistent
[07:05] <tanath> xiaoyi, and chinese can go to their equivalent :P
[07:06] <maxillusionist> wildbill what distro do you use,if ubuntu try remastersys to backup all in a live cd
[07:07] <victorhugo289> hello
[07:07] <Firefishe> tanath:  I'm d/l chromium-browser, et al.  As well as the debugging symbols.  I'll see what the cli output is if it crashes.  The thing is, it usually locks up my entire system, and causes my Caps Lock light to blink.  What is that?  Kernel Panic?
[07:07] <tanath> bullgard, prolly pulled from system info in /proc
[07:07] <tanath> Firefishe, yup... not good
[07:07] <tanath> Firefishe, in that case, check logs. gnome log viewer is handy
[07:08] <dr_Willis> can you boot a live cd and have a peristnat save file? ive only done that with usb-flash typoe live cdsetups
[07:08] <bullgard> tanath: You did not name the subject who does this.
[07:08] <Firefishe> it's really weird.  I wonder if some system call in the code is messing with the kernel.
[07:08] <tanath> bullgard, could be as simple as 'cat'
[07:08] <xiaoyi> 看见中国人很惊讶！
[07:08] <bullgard> tanath: No.
[07:08] <dr_Willis> darkdevil. You may want to register that nick.. or pick a new one.
[07:08] <tanath> bullgard, why not?
[07:09] <bullgard> !jp | xiaoyi
[07:09] <tanath> bullgard, pretty sure it's chinese
[07:09] <iiicyg> bullgard, это китайский, по-моему.
[07:09] <bullgard> !cn | xiaoyi
[07:10] <victorhugo289> Guys, I don't undestand Ubutnu system monitor. It doesn't show which application is bogging my CPU.
[07:10] <jbicha> hi, I just started trying to use irssi. Is it possible to change the Meta shortcut for switching windows?
[07:11] <victorhugo289> It's not like Windows Task manager!
[07:11] <tanath> victorhugo289, it should, but i find it easier to use 'top' in terminal
[07:11] <victorhugo289> 'Top'? ok.
[07:11] <Firefishe> victorhugo289: A good way is to click on the column headings on CPU and Memory, to see what's using the most at a given moment.  You may need to watch it a bit.
[07:11] <jbicha> because Meta is being used by Unity so irssi can't use it
[07:11] <Ryan__> hello
[07:12] <Ryan__> i'm trying to install ubuntu and i need some help
[07:12] <syrinx_> Ryan__: what's the problem
[07:12] <Ryan__> syrinx_ Well I'm running win7 and I don't want to lose it so i wanted to dual boot
[07:13] <tanath> victorhugo289, linux is case-sensitive...
[07:13] <Ryan__> syrinx_ but when I get to the partition manager part and hit 'choose manually', my drive shows up as all free space
[07:13] <syrinx_> Ryan__: are all the partitions formatted to NTFS?
[07:13] <needlez> ok anyone know how to set the size limit of a txt file??
[07:14] <RameEz> just installed ubuntu 10.10 on another pc
[07:14] <Ryan__> syrinx_ i think so. how can i make sure?
[07:14] <syrinx_> Ryan__: do they all show up in windows?
[07:14] <Ryan__> syrinx_ yeah. i have two partitions: one is the system one, the other is a data one. Then I have some unallocated space. (the 2 partitions are both NTFS.)
[07:15] <RameEz> im living it and i gonna try desktop effects
[07:15] <iiicyg> Ryan__, format second to fat.
[07:15] <syrinx_> there you go
[07:15] <Jordan_U> RameEz: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[07:15] <Ryan__> iiicyg and then try again?
[07:15] <syrinx_> your going to lose everything though, I believe
[07:16] <Ryan__> iiicyg wait. the second partition has data i need..
[07:16] <Jordan_U> Ryan__: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[07:16] <iiicyg> Format first to fat.
[07:16] <syrinx_> Ryan__: make a new partition, and leave it unformated
[07:16] <syrinx_> iiicyg: 1st partition has Windows on it
[07:16] <Ryan__> Jordan_U I'm not on linux b/c i didn't install it yet
 Ryan__: make a new partition, and leave it unformated
[07:17] <Jordan_U> Ryan__: Please boot from the LiveCD, run "sudo parted -l" and pastebin the output.
[07:17] <Ryan__> iiicyg a new partition from the unallocated space?
[07:17] <syrinx_> Jordan_U: that's exremely unnecessary
[07:17] <syrinx_> Ryan__: yes
[07:17] <iiicyg> Ryan__, yes.
[07:17] <Jordan_U> syrinx_: Why do you say that?
[07:18] <iiicyg> Jordan_U, because.
[07:18] <Ryan__> syrinx_, iiicyg : and leave it unformatted? i'm not sure if i can do that in win7, but i'll try
[07:18] <syrinx_> Ryan__: yes, it will be a RAW partition
[07:18] <gua> anyone know about a thing like "su" where you can give it a uid instead of a username?
[07:18] <Ryan__> syrinx_, iiicyg : actually i can. "Do not format this volume" is an option
[07:18] <syrinx_> if not Ryan__ format to FAT
[07:18] <iiicyg> Ryan__, ou, cool.
[07:19] <Ryan__> syrinx_, iiicyg okay so i now have a third partition where free space used to be, and it's a "RAW" partition
[07:19] <tanath> gua sudo -u username
[07:19] <Ryan__> syrinx_, iiicyg should i try again?
[07:19] <syrinx_> yea
[07:19] <tanath> gua: see 'man sudo'
[07:19] <Ryan__> syrinx_, iiicyg ** try installing ubuntu again?
[07:19] <iiicyg> Ryan__, sure.
[07:19] <mango> hi room
[07:19] <Ryan__> syrinx_, iiicyg mkay. thanks a lot guys! i'll come back here if i run into problems.
[07:19] <Jordan_U> Ryan__: The main cause of the Ubuntu installer listing a drive as unpartitioned is an invalid partition table. If you do have an invalid partition table then that needs to be fixed before you do any other partitioning of the disk to prevent data loss. "sudo parted -l" will tell you if you have an invalid partition table and what exactly the problem is, like overlapping partitions.
[07:19] <gua> tanath: ohh hey. awesome! thanks. i should have looked there, i just assumed
[07:19] <iiicyg> Ryan__, welcome :-)
[07:20] <tanath> gua, mhm. works with username or uid
[07:20] <Ryan__> Jordan_U, since i'm now going to start installing, if this didn't fix the problem i'll go ahead and do a sudo parted -l and pastebin the output here. :)
[07:20] <syrinx_> Ryan__: come back when your on Ubuntu
[07:20] <Ryan__> syrinx_, iiicyg, Jordan_U: i'll be back when i'm on ubuntu. :) brb!
[07:20] <syrinx_> irssi is a nice client
[07:20] <mango> how to start????????????/
[07:21] <mango> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[07:21] <mango> how to start here??
[07:21] <iiicyg> Start with reading topic.
[07:21] <syrinx_> !enter | mango
[07:21] <mango> where are topics??
[07:22] <iiicyg> Usually, topic... On top :-)
[07:22] <joshmclvl1> mango: if you see something you can help with, just jump in! if you need help with something, just ask!
[07:22] <overclucker> !topic | mango
[07:23] <mango> ok. Thank you so much. I'll come back again when I learn all these.
[07:24] <mango> But in my IRC is just displayed the name of the rooms where i can connect.
[07:24] <mango> I din't get any topic. :(
[07:24] <bartj> can I just upgrade my Ubuntu from 9.04 to 10.10 using the install CD
[07:24] <bartj> without corrupting my existing install ?
[07:25] <bartj> or will something get over-ridden ?
[07:25] <ryan__> iiicyg, syrinx_: hey guys. :( still shows up as free space.
[07:25] <jrtayloriv> I've got a window that I can't kill, and the parent process is already dead. How can I make it go away.
[07:25] <ryan__> iiicyg syrinx_: i'm on ubuntu now though.
[07:25] <syrinx_> ryan__: no try parted
[07:25] <syrinx_> now*
[07:26] <iiicyg> ryan__, and what about fdisk -l ?
[07:26] <ryan__> syrinx_ iiicyg Jordan_U: sudo parted -l right? i'll do the fdisk command as well.
[07:26] <syrinx_> bartj: you could just upgrade from Ubuntu, much easier
[07:26] <jrtayloriv> nm -- just figured it out :)
[07:26] <Jordan_U> ryan__: Yes, "sudo parted -l".
[07:26] <bartj> syrinx_, trouble is it says I don't have enough space on my / partition
[07:27] <bartj> syrinx_, I am terribly frustrated by that warning and have scoured the web on ways to increase my / partiton but to no avail
[07:27] <bartj> thankfully my /home is on a diff partition
[07:27] <arand> bartj: Upgrading using the alternate CD will work similar to an online upgrade as far as I know.
[07:27] <cosmo> how do I make sure that the opengl 32bit compatability drivers are installed?
[07:27] <iiicyg> bartj, increase it with gparted O_o
[07:27] <ryan__> syrinx_ iiicyg Jordan_U hrmm... gparted throws a warning before i get the output. http://pastebin.com/7DRZQSHk
[07:28] <mobius2> greetings :]
[07:28] <ryan__> syrinx_ iiicyg Jordan_U how should i proceed?
[07:28] <iiicyg> ryan__, what about fdisk -l ?
[07:28] <mobius2> is there a channel for sound problems?
[07:28] <ryan__> iiicyg: about to do the fdisk cmd right now
[07:29] <syrinx_> ryan__: looks like the partition table is messed up
[07:29] <Jordan_U> ryan__: Those GPT signatures are the reason why the installer was showing the drive as unpartitioned (ideally it should have passed along the error message you're now getting, but it doesn't).
[07:29] <iiicyg> ryan__, yes.
[07:29]  * mobius2 attempts to use a usb microphone in ubuntu ,  much to his dismay :P
[07:30] <Jordan_U> ryan__: Run "sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gdisk" Then run "sudo gdisk /dev/sda" and pastebin the output.
[07:30] <ryan__> Jordan_U syrinx_ iiicyg: http://pastebin.com/vbc49T8t
[07:32] <syrinx_> ryan__: so, theres no way to format that partition you made?
[07:32] <ryan__> syrinx_: if i boot back into windows, yeah i can format it fat32 or ntfs
[07:32] <ryan__> Jordan_U: the firs tcommand is running right now
[07:32] <syrinx_> may as well try that
[07:33] <kurumin> everyone brazilian
[07:33] <ryan__> syrinx_: alright, let me try this gdisk thing first and then i'll switch os's again
[07:33] <kurumin> everyone brazilian?
[07:33] <syrinx_> kurumin: #ubuntu-br
[07:33] <kurumin> thanks
[07:33] <iiicyg> kk
[07:33] <Jordan_U> syrinx_: The problem is that he has GPT signatures but no valid GPT label. gdisk is a utility which can remove the GPT signatures so that the installer will read the partition table without error.
[07:34] <iiicyg> Ou.
[07:34] <ryan__> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/RckUCNRv
[07:34] <iiicyg> Cool, it's... cognitive.
[07:34] <pretender> can someone tell me is there an app that will retrieve the DVD Covers for TV Series
[07:35] <Jordan_U> ryan__: Anser "1" and pastebin any new output.
[07:35] <Jordan_U> *answer
[07:35] <ryan__> Jordan_U: 10-4.
[07:36] <ryan__> Jordan_U: all it says is "Command (? for help):
[07:36] <syrinx_> pretender: make your own
[07:36] <tripelb> please - where is the option to change the size of the default desktop icon. I want it to be smaller. . overall. I know how to change them one at a time.  thanks.
[07:37] <Jordan_U> ryan__: Try typing "w" then run "sudo parted -l" again. If you get no error from "sudo parted -l" then the installer should be able to work with the drive now.
[07:38] <iiicyg> Jordan_U, but he do nothing. Only open MBR to manipulate it O_o
[07:39] <ryan__> Jordan_U: bah. shortly afterp osting the output of the gdisk command, ubuntu went unresponsive on me
[07:39] <ryan__> Jordan_U: back on ubuntu, but i probably have to re-install gdisk
[07:39] <Jordan_U> iiicyg: I'm hoping that gdisk will remove the gpt signatures since he said to treat it as mbr. I'm not sure that it will but I can't remember how to do it and I can't get the menu myself as I don't have a disk in this situation to test with :(
[07:41] <ryan__> Jordan_U: i don't remember what the commmand was. can i just run 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gdisk'?
[07:41] <iiicyg> That is why we need "? for help" output.
[07:41] <fairuz> Hi, I get this error when I try to log in to my Ubuntu. Install Problem. Gnome POwer Manager has not been installed correctly.
[07:41] <tanath> any help? i'm using wine 1.3.15 and still getting this problem http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2367#c8
[07:41] <ryan__> iiicyg: i've been disconnected for a few minutes. do you guys want the output of (? for help) ?
[07:41] <fairuz> it just happened yesterday, before that Ubuntu works well
[07:41] <Jordan_U> ryan__: Run "sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gdisk"
[07:42] <Jordan_U> ryan__: Yes, that would be helpful.
[07:42] <ryan__> Jordan_U: thanks. I'm installing gdisk at the moment, i'll pastebin the output asap
[07:43] <fairuz> I tried to reinstall gnome-power-manager with purge but no luck
[07:43] <fairuz> any idea on this? thanks
[07:43] <ryan__> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/ixAXj6x6
[07:44] <iiicyg> fairuz, sudo apt-get install -reinstall gnome-power-manager ?
[07:44] <Jordan_U> ryan__: I just found a good guide for exactly your problem: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html
[07:44] <fairuz> iiicyg: I tried sudo apt-get --purge remove gnome-power-manager . then sudo apt-get install gnome-power-manager
[07:45] <fairuz> iiicyg: I will try your command now
[07:45] <ryan__> Jordan_U: thanks. i'll try following this guide.
[07:45] <Jordan_U> ryan__: You're welcome.
[07:49] <ryan__> Jordan_U: do i want to "convert the MBR to GPT form, use the GPT data, or create a blank GPT"?
[07:50] <ryan__> Jordan_U: never mind i think i figured it out
[07:50] <Jordan_U> ryan__: You don't want to do any of those things.
[07:51] <fairuz> iiicyg: you sure about your command? it dont recognize the -reinstall on my ubuntu
[07:51] <ryan__> Jordan_U: hrm. in the guide, it tells me that "If you want to keep the MBR and wipe the GPT ..." is this what i want to do?
[07:51] <iiicyg> fairuz, --reinstall
[07:51] <fairuz> same
[07:52] <iiicyg> double -
[07:52] <iiicyg> er
[07:52] <fairuz> iiicyg: ok ty
[07:52] <fairuz> iiicyg: i try that
[07:52] <Jordan_U> ryan__: Yes.
[07:52] <ryan__> Jordan_U: okay. hold on ...
[07:53] <ryan__> Jordan_U: okay, i've made the changes
[07:53] <iiicyg> sudo apt-get --reinstall install name
[07:54] <iiicyg> Sorry.
[07:54] <ryan__> Jordan_U: i'll try again
[07:58] <zimsim> How do I set a different locale for my ubuntu server terminal. Currently `locale` cmd will output "POSIX", but I want to change this to "UTF-8"
[08:06] <fairuz> iiicyg: it works.. thanks a lot.. but how come uninstall with purge and installing it back is not the same as install --reinstall?
[08:06] <fairuz> oh he leaves
[08:06] <fairuz> :D
[08:07] <Chat4559> hey
[08:09] <panfist> what is the name of the process for the software center? it's hung up trying to install a package
[08:10] <penos> im so bored
[08:10] <jesuslinux> ola
[08:13] <shekar> hi
[08:14] <shekar> i have both installed xp and ubuntu now i want to reinstall xp
[08:15] <shekar> so how will i do please help
[08:15] <duepi> #CARE
[08:15] <llutz_> shekar: this is ubuntu-support, not windows.
[08:16] <Stryker> panfist it is software-center
[08:16] <shekar> ok thank you
[08:16] <llutz_> shekar: xp will overwrite the bootloader in MBR, so be prepared to reinstall grub after xp installation
[08:17] <elFidel> shekar: just as sidenote: you'll wreck your grub most likely after reinstalling windows. Just keep that in mind & be prepared to repair grub
[08:17] <shekar> so how will reinstall grub :)
[08:18] <llutz_> !grub
[08:18] <llutz_> !grub2
[08:18] <llutz_> shekar: read ^^
[08:18] <Stryker> the new rescatux can reinstall grub2
[08:19] <induhvidual> I'm having gamepad/joystick issues.  Ubuntu v9.10.  lsmod shows, analog, gameport, and joystick loaded.  /dev/input/js0 exists, jscal, and jstest work fine.  I'm wanting to control X.
[08:19] <kaerus01> does anyone know where I can find some help with c?
[08:19] <induhvidual> !joystick
[08:20] <llutz_> kaerus01: ##c
[08:20] <zimsim> kaerus01: K&R
[08:20] <DystaN> anyone know where I can get Desktop cube wallpapers ?
[08:20] <Shvonder> kaerus01: With what?
[08:20] <DystaN> the ones with opacity
[08:20] <induhvidual> kaerus01: I could only help if it is a simpley problem.
[08:20] <shekar> thank you llutz :)
[08:21] <Shvonder> .g grub 2 recovery
[08:21] <digitaldefector> rtl819xu firmware problems
[08:21] <Stryker> !grub2
[08:21] <Stryker> !rtl819xu
[08:22] <Stryker> !rtl819
[08:26] <digitaldefector> rtl819xu firmware download failed with TCR Status :a
[08:26] <Akshay> Hi, I'm running Intel 82865G I'm not able to get the same resolution as I got in windows.
[08:27] <Stryker> Akshay, you could force a resolution
[08:27] <Akshay> Currently in Ubuntu I'm working on 1024x768, in windows I had 1152x864
[08:27] <Akshay> Stryker:How can I do it??
[08:28] <Stryker> Akshay, you could try making the hz go up higher, and sometimes higher resolutions are available
[08:28] <kaerus01> does anyone know a good c/c++ chanel?
[08:28] <digitaldefector> is there an easy way to install wireless realtek drivers on install? lsusb recognizes the hardware but auto disconnects from usb-wlan
[08:28] <Rexodus> Anyone seen my shades?
[08:28] <tripelb> Hello, I've been asking this a few days. I want to change the Default Icon Size on my desktop. I've done it in some other ubuntu installation once. I'ev got 10.04 now.  --- Also, how long should it take to upgrade to 10.10 ?
[08:29] <rgigli> !list
[08:29] <tripelb> what are the advantages?
[08:29] <kaerus01> does anyone know a good c/c++ channel?
[08:29] <Stryker> !upgrade
[08:29] <Akshay> Stryker:How do I make Hz(frequency??) higher.
[08:29] <digitaldefector> bump?
[08:29] <Stryker> Akshay, in the monitor prefs
[08:29] <tripelb> kaerus01: try asking in #freenode
[08:30] <kaerus01> thank you!
[08:30] <Akshay> I have only 1 option ie. 60Hz
[08:30] <tripelb> Rexodus: I think you let them in the bathroom, under the sink
[08:30] <digitaldefector> any wifi scripts for ubuntu?
[08:30] <bullgard> After Maverick coldstarts itwrites to the virtual console 1 : "System inormation as of Sat Mar 12 15:51:57 CET 2011. System load, Temperature Usage of /home, Processes: Memory Usage: Users logged in, Swap usage, IP address for eth0. -- What program prints this information?
[08:30] <Stryker> upgrading usually takes me 3 hours on a 23 mbit connection
[08:31] <llutz_> kaerus01: ##c
[08:31] <Akshay> Stryker: I have only 1 option ie. 60Hz
[08:31] <digitaldefector> i've tried apttosid,superos, ubuntu, linux mint, fusion... not sure what to do. It worked great on my laptop but not on my pc
[08:32] <Stryker> google how to force resolution with xorg.conf Akshay
[08:32] <Rexodus> tripelb: Got them allready! Them where in the fridge...
[08:32] <Stryker> digitaldefector, how is that a question
[08:33] <digitaldefector> Stryker, explaining the testing to get wirelessusb to work. sry, been waiting for reply
[08:33] <Stryker> oh
[08:33] <Stryker> goodnight all of ya
[08:35] <tripelb> HowTo change default size of icons, open places browsing window (nautilus) >Edit>Prefs  first tab "icon zoom level"  --- obscure but it works.
[08:35] <tripelb> Rexodus: lol
[08:37] <tripelb> someone wanted a C channel.  well I tried /join #c and it worked. I didnt realize it did because it made a tiny tab way off to the right. shrug. I got joined to ##c -- re channels, I always "just try it"
[08:38] <Huck> why is file size larger when I rip to wave from juicer than when I just drag the files over ?
[08:40] <ethanol> anyone else ever experienced that youtube flash movies will sometimes stop playing when you refresh another tab in chromium?
[08:40] <velope> i haven't
[08:41] <ethanol> I have no idea at all how I could debug this..
[08:41] <velope> debug what?
[08:41] <ethanol> why it stops playing
[08:41] <Flint> hmm
[08:41] <velope> flash stop playing and you have not any idea why ?
[08:42] <ethanol> the whole player just disappears from the page
[08:42] <ethanol> when I reload another page in another tab
[08:42] <velope> define it clear and simple
[08:42] <bencc> is it possible to port forward only requests that start with ws:// (websockets) and not http:// ?
[08:43] <doodoo> there is a massive memory leak in compiz on my natty installation. how to report bug
[08:43] <Huck> file sizes are greater after ripping to wave wit sound juicer than when I just dray , any ideas ?
[08:43] <ethanol> ok. tab1 has a youtube music video playing. I'm browsing around in tab2. and once in every 100 new page loads in tab2, the player in tab1 will stop playing and disappears on the exact moment I open a new link or hit refresh in tab2
[08:43] <llutz_> !natty | doodoo
[08:43] <velope> ethanol: define your problem
[08:43] <ethanol> velope: dude, how much more can I define this?
[08:43] <ryan__> Jordan_U: hey there. the gdisk solution worked. i'm on an ubuntu install at the moment. :) thanks again.
[08:43] <ethanol> I just told you what happens
[08:44] <velope> ethanol: clear and simple
[08:44] <ethanol> I did
[08:44] <ethanol> clear and simple
[08:44] <velope> no you did not
[08:44] <Jordan_U> ryan__: You're welcome :)
[08:44] <ethanol> if you can't comprehend this than maybe english is not for you
[08:44] <velope> i saw many words
[08:44] <velope> too many
[08:44] <velope> can u say it in one sentence??
[08:44] <ethanol> it was one sentence
[08:44] <ethanol> stop trolling
[08:44] <ryan__> hahahahahahahh
[08:44] <velope> i am not trolling
[08:45] <ethanol> you are
[08:45] <velope> no
[08:45] <ethanol> saying no doesn't make you less of a troll
[08:45] <velope> i may help you if u define your bug clearly
[08:45] <ryan__> successful troll is successful
[08:45] <hungmanmoojoo> hiya
[08:46] <Abhijit> hi
[08:46] <Abhijit> which qt-dev package to install for linux?
[08:46] <ethanol> velope: problem: youtube player stops playing/disappears. cause: page (re)load in another tab. occurrence: not very often.
[08:46] <Abhijit> what is the pacakge name?
[08:46] <ethanol> how does that work for you?
[08:46] <Abhijit> help
[08:46] <velope> ethanol: ok, i cannot help this but maybe someone else.
[08:47] <coderr> good morning. i have just uninstalled the amd radeon video driver and installed xserver-xorg-video-ati/xserver-xorg-video-radeon, now when X starts (gdm), there's only some messy artefact where the mouse cursor is, the rest of the screen is totally black. i tried both with and without KMS, no change. i pasted my dmesg log which reports some errors, but i don't quite get it: http://paste2.org/p/130
[08:47] <coderr> 3620. has anyone maybe experienced such problems with the radeon driver before? my card is a radeon hd 4650 btw. (mobility version)
[08:47] <coderr> http://paste2.org/p/1303620 * that is the right link
[08:48] <hungmanmoojoo> i'm on webirc, and i want to know a little more about ipv6.. is there somone here who is knowledgable and want to query a little with me or perhaps can guide me to a channel where i can get info.. searching for channels is hard with webirc.?
[08:48] <ryan__> coderr: it's artifact, not artefact. :)
[08:49] <Abhijit> help. what is the package name for qt-dev. which one to install?
[08:49] <Abhijit> there are lots of them
[08:49] <brianz> i think i just screwed grub a few minutes ago by mistakenly delete one logical drive in windows xp, because after reboot i got the "error: no such partition". how could i restore it or boot into windows?
[08:49] <coderr> ryan__: ah sure, sorry ... you're right. as i said, it's still _morning_, and that's how my brain feels, too ;-)
[08:50] <hungmanmoojoo> brianz: use the livecd or liveusb to reinstall grub
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> hungmanmoojoo: i'd ask ni \\networking
[08:50] <hungmanmoojoo> loads of guides on how to do that  on the net
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> ##networking
[08:50] <hungmanmoojoo> thanx ActionParsnip
[08:50] <brianz> hungmanmoojoo, thanks
[08:51] <Akshay> How do I force screen resolution.My Xorg.conf is empty
[08:51] <Jordan_U> brianz: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[08:52] <cosmo> in 10.10 how do I kill the x server to install the latests nvidia driver
[08:52] <lo> hi
[08:52] <bacon_> hi
[08:53] <bacon_> please, does someone knows which solution are using debian developer as a keyserver to share their public keys? I'd like to set up one for intern purposes
[08:53] <love> #topic
[08:53] <Akshay> How do I force screen resolution.My Xorg.conf is empty
[08:53] <jarnos> after installin updates using Update manager there is synaptic running in non-interactive mode, and I can not install any further updates.
[08:54] <bacon_> jarnos: try to aptitude clean and aptitude update again
[08:54] <Akshay> How do I force screen res.
[08:55] <ryan__> hi guys. i just installed ubuntu and my second video card isn't being recognized by nvidia-xconfig. (both are 8400 gs's.) lscpi shows both cards, and both cards work on windows. help?
[08:55] <bacon_> Akshay: did? you tried trought the GUI
[08:55] <Akshay> yes, can't see 1152x864
[08:55] <bacon_> ryan__: find the correct driver, and install it? :) if you know that the module is present, check if it is loaded with lsmod
[08:56] <Akshay> bacon_:currently working on 1024x768
[08:56] <Akshay> bacon_:My xorg.conf is empty
[08:56] <bacon_> ryan__: isn't there some kind of crossfire application to install on buntu?
[08:56] <macsim> hi, I'm unable to play youtube video in fullscreen mode, I use flash 10.2.152.27 on ubuntu 10.10, I googlize and read a trick with /etc/adobe/mms.cfg, I did but but it doens't fix fullscreen mode, any idea ? thanks
[08:56] <ryan__> bacon_: well i installed the nvidia driver through gnome's 'restricted drivers' thing, which makes me think that i should have the necessary drivers. I mean, the first card works so the second card should too, right? :P
[08:57] <bacon_> Akshay: maybe in another xorg conf file than xorg.conf?
[08:57] <ryan__> bacon_: crossfire application? i'm not sure what you're talking about :x
[08:58] <Akshay> bacon_:can you refer any guide to editing Xorg.conf, new to ubuntu
[08:58] <jarnos> bacon_, it doesn't terminate synaptic, but now update notifier is grey.
[09:00] <leaveboy> ?
[09:00] <leaveboy> quiet
[09:00] <zzaza> hi all
[09:01] <leaveboy> oh
[09:01] <Akshay> bacon_:can you refer any guide to editing Xorg.conf, new to ubuntu
[09:01] <suso> join irc.at.euirc.net #sep
[09:01] <suso> ??
[09:01] <suso> xD
[09:02] <bullgard> After Maverick coldstarts it writes to the virtual console 1 : "System information as of Sat Mar 12 15:51:57 CET 2011. System load, Temperature, Usage of /home, Processes, Memory Usage, Users logged in, Swap usage, IP address for eth0. -- What program prints this information?
[09:02] <zzaza> I have many music file of format .wma which i want to convert in mp3 what program can i use
[09:02] <cosmo> in 10.10 how do I kill the x server to install the latests nvidia driver
[09:03] <hateball> cosmo: service gdm stop, but remember that installing drivers on your own may break things...
[09:03] <leaveboy> cosmo: you must not kill X when you install nvidia
[09:03] <Akshay> Ho do i change screen resolution, my xorg.conf is empty
[09:04] <Akshay> Using intel 82865G
[09:04] <phonex01> go to your home foler and open Xorg-conf file you will find that parameter there
[09:04] <phonex01> X and Y reolution
[09:04] <hateball> Akshay: Isnt the tool in System -> Settings -> Screens working?
[09:04] <Akshay> hateball:no
[09:04] <cosmo> when I try to install it it tells me I have to kill x
[09:04] <Akshay> My xorg.conf is empty
[09:04] <zzaza> I have many music file of format .wma which i want to convert in mp3 what program can i use
[09:06] <nickmoeck> Is there a way to encrypt my entire hard drive, and store the encryption key on an SD card, only allowing the computer to even boot if the SD card is in the slot?
[09:06] <cosmo> installing the new driver on my own seems to be the only way it will install the 260 driver rather than 175
[09:07] <leaveboy> zzaza: mplayer
[09:07] <zzaza> leaveboy, i will try it
[09:09] <fisch246> how do you upgrade to a newer version of ubuntu with synaptic? if it's possible of course
[09:10] <hateball> fisch246: You would use update-manager, not synaptic
[09:10] <fisch246> hateball: i'm aware of that...
[09:10] <alesan> hi I am trying to use pitivi
[09:10] <zee313> hi i was using readon player to see tv shows and documentaries. Is there such kind of player in ubuntu?
[09:10] <Ben65> fisch246: from which version to which version
[09:11] <alesan> but which input format are supported? I cannot get a single video file to be imported
[09:11] <Guest88405> hey, does jolli os have a channel?
[09:11] <Jordan_U> fisch246: You can't.
[09:11] <fisch246> i'm on lubuntu so... if it's possible from there... but i'm trying to go from 10.04 to 10.10...
[09:11] <fisch246> Jordan_U: ah ok i'll just get update manager then
[09:11] <fisch246> i know how to do it, since i'm also currently creating my own distro haha
[09:12] <Jordan_U> alesan: Pitivi uses gstreamer, so anything you have a gstreamer plugin for will be supported.
[09:12] <fisch246> thanks everyone
[09:12] <alesan> Jordan_U, I use kubuntu, do you think I need to install gstreamer?
[09:12] <Jordan_U> alesan: If you open a video in Totem ("Movie Player") and you don't have the needed gstreamer plugin it will be installed automatically.
[09:12] <hateball> fisch246: it's possible update-manager is set to only check for LTS releases
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> fisch246: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades
[09:13] <fisch246> o i don't have update manager right now
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> fisch246: use the command line way, much easier
[09:13] <fisch246> mmk
[09:13] <fisch246> yea indeed
[09:14] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | fisch246
[09:14] <fisch246> i was building gnome, and it was much easier to do it with a command line :/
[09:14] <alesan> Jordan_U, apparently there is no "totem" in KDE. I will try to use "Kino"
[09:14] <zzaza> leaveboy: i want to convert the .wma files to mp3
[09:14] <fisch246> i know how to upgrade -__- i just wanted to know if you could do it with synaptic...
[09:15] <Jordan_U> alesan: I don't think that Kino uses gstreamer, so you'll just have to install the correct gstreamer plugins yourself.
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> alesan:: you can install totem in kde if you want
[09:15] <avinashhm> Hi, how to scan for available wireless n/ws .. i am looking for command line .. For wired n/w , i do with 'dhclient eth0' .. tried 'dhclient eth1' , doens't work .. any help
[09:15] <llutz_> zzaza: use mplayer +lame, see forums for a howto
[09:15] <alesan> Jordan_U, I will use kino so I won't have to install gstreamer
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> fisch246: not sure but I know the CLI version will work in any DE
[09:15] <llutz_> avinashhm: iwlist s
[09:15] <alesan> ActionParsnip, well I'd rather not
[09:15] <Jordan_U> alesan: If you have PiTiVi installed you already have gstreamer, just not all of the gstreamer plugins.
[09:16] <avinashhm> llutz, i am getting 'interface doesn't support scanning' for all lo, eth0, eth1
[09:16] <llutz_> avinashhm: then your wifi-device is down or not available at all
[09:16] <alesan> Jordan_U, so without totem it's impossible to load new plugins for gstreamer?
[09:16] <bullgard> After Maverick coldstarts it writes to the virtual console 1 : "System information as of Sat Mar 12 15:51:57 CET 2011. System load, Temperature, Usage of /home, Processes, Memory Usage, Users logged in, Swap usage, IP address for eth0. -- What program prints this information?
[09:16] <Huck> the file sizes are different  between  waves dragged from a disc, and thoes extracted for mp3 any ideas why, or which i s better fedility ?
[09:17] <leaveboy> zzaza: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/82947
[09:17] <avinashhm> llutz, wait i ll check ..
[09:17] <llutz_> avinashhm: does "iwconfig" list a wifi-device?
[09:17] <Jordan_U> alesan: I just said that you can install the packages yourself. Use the package manager and search for "gstreamer plugins".
[09:17] <alesan> thanks
[09:17] <Jordan_U> alesan: You're welcome.
[09:18] <daun07> .
[09:19] <avinashhm> llutz, strange .. it lists .. 'IEEE 802.11  Access Point: Not-Associated' .. but the LED isn't blowing ;-( in my laptop ..
[09:19] <avinashhm> the wifi led
[09:21] <llutz_> avinashhm: rfkill list wifi
[09:21] <avinashhm> Here is the iwconfig and ifconfig o/ps .. 'http://paste.ubuntu.com/580488/'
[09:23] <llutz_> avinashhm: sry cant check, no www available yet
[09:23] <Beacher> hi,all.
[09:24] <avinashhm> np .. i ll try ur command ..
[09:24] <yeertai> hi.
[09:24] <Beacher> excuse me . Why vsftp cannot change directory?
[09:25] <hefish> maybe permission
[09:25] <Beacher> permission : 777 /me
[09:26] <Beacher> chroot_local_enable=NO
[09:26] <Beacher> Why?
[09:26] <avinashhm> llutz, tried 'rfkill list wifi' .. even after this both the still eth1 listed ..
[09:26] <Abhijit> help. what is the package name for qt-dev. which one to install?
[09:26] <Abhijit> there are lots of them
[09:26] <WillWill56> If anyone's interested in hearing my epic fail, I used an undefined variable in a very important loop in a php script, my error log grew to 420 MB quite quickly...
[09:28]  * Beacher jumps
[09:28] <llutz_> avinashhm: did rfkill show the device blocked?
[09:29] <WillWill56> Anyway... I sorta just wasted a few seconds of your life :P. Seeya!!!
[09:29] <waterboy0911> hello guys.. may I know when will be the new release for ubuntu 11.04
[09:29] <avinashhm> llutz, nope .. it never threw any o/p ..
[09:29] <n2i> Hi! May I ask some question about parcellite (clipboard manager)?
[09:31] <waterboy0911> hey guys I have a question.. I am currently using ubuntu 10.04 then I am experiencing every time I copy files and transferring to my thumb drive.. it's taking too long..
[09:32] <n2i> I cannot clear lipboard in parceellite. What is this problem?
[09:34] <Huck> wave files dragged to the drive a re much  larger than when ripped as waves via sound juicer  , are they compressed ?
[09:35] <Huck> If no one has and answer  to mu question, might you direct me in a good direction ?
[09:38] <juk> Huck: `file` can detect some extensions
[09:38] <DystaN> where are the mame executables ??? Ubuntu 10.10  , where are them how do I find their path ?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> n2i: if you right click the app in the panel and select preferences / settings   you can set the shortcut
[09:39] <dios_mio> DystaN, to find the location of any executable in your PATH, type: which <name>
[09:39] <coderr> hi again. i switched back to fglrx (proprietary amd/ati video driver) and it works flawlessly, even when using blender - but only as long as composition in my window manager (xfce 4.8) is disabled. when i enable it, what is strange is that glxgears (fgl_glxgears) still works without a problem, but as soon as i start blender, the screen turns all black and if i'm lucky i can exit blender...
[09:39] <coderr> ...blindfolded.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> DystaN: you can use the  which   command to find which command the file runs
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> DystaN: for example:   which nano
[09:40] <Cosmo> so I stopped x so I could install the newest nvidia drivers using initctl stop gdm now how do I start gdm back up?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> Cosmo: nvidia drivers are packaged in the repos
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Cosmo: you could just reboot..
[09:41] <coderr> Cosmo: sudo start gdm ?
[09:41] <n2i> ActionParsnip: When I lelf click and select "Clear". It does nothing. Is there any problem here?
[09:41] <Cosmo> not the newest ones aparently that have the 32 bit open gl drivers for my 64 bit install
[09:41] <ylmfos> nihao a
[09:42] <ylmfos> wo shi xinshou
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Cosmo: what version are you installing?
[09:42] <n2i> 你好！ :P
[09:42] <Cosmo> when I reboot it goes to just the text interface
[09:42] <Cosmo> 260
[09:42] <ylmfos> yulinmufengli de yigebanben
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current | Cosmo
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Cosmo: you may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:43] <ylmfos> where are you from?
[09:43] <ylmfos> not china
[09:43] <Cosmo> ActionParsnip, ok I will try that
[09:43] <rwat> does something special happen during install for a cloud server or can I convert a running server to cloud?
[09:44] <ylmfos> this place ,i don't know
[09:45] <zvacet> ylmfos: do you have any question to ask about ubuntu problems or support
[09:45] <coderr> anyone knows about fglrx+composition in window manager?
[09:45] <luckymurali> Hi all
[09:45] <juk> coderr: #fglrx ?
[09:46] <jordan3456> hello
[09:46] <coderr> juk: the channel is empty
[09:46] <Caribou> Hello,
[09:47] <jordan3456> is someone here skilled with flash issues?
[09:47] <luckymurali> I installed ubuntu server 10.04 64 bit and there is no desktop on it
[09:47] <luckymurali> i want to install desktop on that machine but there is no internet
[09:48] <llutz_> luckymurali: thats why its called server
[09:48] <luckymurali> llutz_,:)
[09:48] <luckymurali> llutz_, :)
[09:48] <Caribou> why not installing desktop then ?
[09:48] <zvacet> luckymurali:server comes without desktop
[09:48] <maf> sad no GUI interface for the server
[09:48] <maf> I mean, imagine giving the big planes no window for the pilots
[09:49] <maf> any web interface to the server ?
[09:49] <luckymurali> yes i know that we have option to install desktop on the server by sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <maf> or did someone wnat to intentionally go back to 1982 interfaces
[09:49] <juk> coderr: did you try radeon?
[09:49] <Caribou> maybe those queries should go to #ubuntu-server
[09:49] <Cosmo> I tried sudo nvidia-xconfig and rebooted and it is still giving me the text interface
[09:49] <Caribou> in the meantime, I'm having an issue with nm-applet no longer starting automatically upon login
[09:49] <luckymurali> ok thnx
[09:49] <llutz_> maf: configuring a server is much faster and easier done by cli in most cases
[09:50] <beer_brouwer> can anyone tell me how i can get my exchange calendar entries with SOAP and PHP?
[09:50] <Caribou> my only option is to start nm-applet manually which works fine
[09:51] <juk> !info nvidia-xconfig
[09:51] <Caribou> but looks like the Gnome startup sequence no longer does it
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Caribou: ad it in your startup items then...
[09:51] <Caribou> it's there & checked
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Caribou: make a script to wait a little while (use the sleep command) then run it
[09:52] <bullgard> After Maverick coldstarts it writes to the virtual console 1 : "System information as of Sat Mar 12 15:51:57 CET 2011. System load, Temperature, Usage of /home, Processes, Memory Usage, Users logged in, Swap usage, IP address for eth0. -- What program prints this information?
[09:52] <juk> Cosmo: can you see: lsmod | grep nvidia output
[09:53] <jordan3456> on no, not the perennial video card problems
[09:53] <Caribou> ActionParsnip, I'm not after a workaround. This worked fine until yesterday. I'm after someone who knows the startup sequence well enough to know how nm-applet gets started
[09:53] <blackdoggy> is anybody here having problems on 10.10 dual monitor with nvidia?
[09:53] <Huck> wave files dragged from a cd to a file are much larger than those extracted as waves via sound juicer.... does juicer compress waave iles
[09:54] <coderr> juk: i tried xserver-xorg-video-ati/xserver-xorg-ati-radeon, yes. they give errors and whenever X (gdm) starts, the screen turns black, that's why i switched back to fglrx. i pasted the error messages earlier, don't have the link anymore :(
[09:54] <juk> !details | blackdoggy
[09:54] <jordan3456> blackdoggy: run xrandr first to see if everything squared away with the monitors.  If you don't have it in your system, apt-get it.
[09:54] <jordan3456> also apt-get arandr
[09:54] <Cosmo> juk, I will check
[09:54] <jordan3456> that will generate the start up scripts for you
[09:54] <blackdoggy> thx jordan3456 i will see what happrns  after that
[09:55] <beer_brouwer> has someone here got some experience with SOAP?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Caribou: thatsall I can sugest, I use wicd personally as it also has a cli interface :)
[09:55] <jordan3456> often the extra drivers aren't needed (fglrx, ati, raedon), especially for the older cards.  Many times it's just a matter of inserting the xrandr parameters into a configuration file
[09:56] <jordan3456> btw I don't use gnome anymore, but the scenery is the same
[09:56] <jordan3456> only the names and faces change
[09:56] <luckymurali> where can i download ubuntu desktop package ??
[09:56] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: nmcli :)
[09:56] <juk> coderr: that's sucks
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: i guess :), old habit
[09:57] <micro__> всем привет!
[09:57] <blackdoggy> jordan3456 i tried apt-get but it says Package xrandr is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:57] <blackdoggy> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:57] <blackdoggy> is only available from another source
[09:57] <blackdoggy> However the following packages replace it:
[09:57] <blackdoggy>   x11-xserver-utils
[09:57] <FloodBot1> blackdoggy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:57] <zvacet> luckymurali: you said that you dont have internet ask somebody live Ubuntu cd and install it from there
[09:57] <juk> coderr: nvidia caused me a lot pain too some time ago
[09:57] <Cosmo> juk, it said nvidia    8097831   0
[09:57] <luckymurali> zvacet, can i do on the top of server??
[09:58] <StamEhad> Hi!I'm trying to boot an ole PIII laptop with the Lubuntu 10.10 liveCD but it hangs in the screen with the ubuntu 10.10 and 4 dots.
[09:58] <zvacet> luckymurali:  yes
[09:58] <jordan3456> blackdoggy: just keep chaining the dependencies into apt-get commands until you fulfill all the dependencies.
[09:58] <coderr> juk: yes, it sucks ...
[09:58] <zvacet> luckymurali: install just ubuntu -desktop package
[09:58] <jordan3456> in fact, it might be better to try and install xrandr and arandr together, find the missing dependencies, and then plop them in, with the recommends, at once.
[09:58] <coderr> guess i'll have to live without compositing then, but it just makes me feel SO stupid ...
[09:59] <blackdoggy> jordan 3456 i did x11-xserver-utils and it says its already the newest version
[09:59] <luckymurali> zvacet, any procedures on the net ??
[09:59] <jordan3456> yeah don't redo x11
[09:59] <zvacet> luckymurali:  what do you mean?
[09:59] <jordan3456> I mean, don't remove and then retry to install it
[10:00] <blackdoggy> aint doing that
[10:00] <luckymurali> i mean step by step for just installing desktop
[10:00] <zvacet> luckymurali:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:01] <jordan3456> black doggy: try running apt-get -y check xrandr
[10:01] <jordan3456> see what's broken
[10:01] <jordan3456> I don't know if the -y switch works, but I'm a fan
[10:01] <jordan3456> that will get you in trouble ;-)
[10:01] <juk> Cosmo: do you get Xserver errors?
[10:02] <Cosmo> I dont think the driver is causing the issue I just dont know the command to start the gdm back up after using initctl stop gdm
[10:02] <juk> !info Xorg
[10:02] <Cosmo> juk, nope no errors
[10:03] <Caribou> luckymurali: using 'tasksel --task-packages ubuntu-desktop will list all the packages that are needed. You can then download them & put them on a USB thumbdrive
[10:03] <zvacet> luckymurali:  you can read http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-gui-in-ubuntu-server.html
[10:03] <barbadillo> hi all, how can i customize the "open with" menu in nautilus?
[10:03] <coderr> [drm:radeon_cs_ioctl] *ERROR* Faild to schedule IB !
[10:03] <coderr> [drm:radeon_ib_schedule] *ERROR* radeon: couldn't schedule IB(12).
[10:03] <coderr> that same message was what i got from xserver-xorg-radeon, infinite loop with the numbers IB(X) going from 0 to 15, over and over again
[10:03] <luckymurali> zvacet, thanks, and one more question usually if we download any package using apt where it will keep a backup of that softwares??
[10:04] <blackdoggy> jordan3456 no luck
[10:04] <jordan3456> oh gosh
[10:04] <blackdoggy> should i just switch to kde
[10:04] <jordan3456> no broken dependencies?
[10:04] <blackdoggy> nop
[10:04] <jordan3456> blackdoggy: xubuntu rocks
[10:04] <navin> i am using ubuntu 9.04 on my dell laptop,how can i take a snap with webcome...any help?
[10:04] <jordan3456> skip gnome and kde
[10:04] <jordan3456> bloated, slow, not worth it
[10:04] <zvacet> luckymurali:  all packageas installed eith apt-get or aptitude are in /vat/cache/apt/archives
[10:04] <jordan3456> I use xubuntu on even my newest machines
[10:05] <jordan3456> it's not just for slow computers anyomre
[10:05] <Jordan_U> !eol | navin
[10:05] <luckymurali> thnx
[10:05] <blackdoggy> yeah... but my laptop is working alrite apart from  having trouble  with flashin time after time
[10:05] <navin> ubottu:thanks
[10:06] <zvacet> luckymurali:  my mistake it is /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:06] <juk> Cosmo: so just black terminal screen, what if you hit X
[10:06] <luckymurali> i got it
[10:07] <luckymurali> but the link you have given needs internet
[10:07] <Cosmo> juk, trying that
[10:07] <barbadillo> hi all, how can i customize the "open with" menu in nautilus?
[10:07] <luckymurali> actually i am amble to install desktop using internet and working fine
[10:08] <juk> !infp nautilus-scripts
[10:08] <juk> !info nautilus-scripts
[10:08] <blackdoggy> barbadillo install ubuntu tweak it will help u
[10:08] <juk> !info nautilus-scripts-manager
[10:08] <zvacet> luckymurali:  I told you that other possibility is to install ubuntu-desktop package from ubunutu live cd if you know somebody who have it
[10:08] <aerofly5> having trouble installing ubuntu 10.10, I install it to the hard drive and when I reboot it comes up with "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER". Does anyone have any suggestions for fixes?
[10:08] <Cosmo> juk, it says x:command not found
[10:09] <juk> Cosmo: *X* is not *x*
[10:09] <Cosmo> oops trying that
[10:09] <navin_> any command that i put in my terminal to open my webcame in ubuntu 9.04??
[10:09] <barbadillo> what's ubuntu tweak? is it official?
[10:09] <elFidel> navin_: open your webcam? is that an app now?
[10:10] <elFidel> ;)
[10:10] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/761222/
[10:10] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/761223/
[10:10] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/761224/
[10:10] <blackdoggy> yeah barbadillo its a cool application
[10:10] <juk> Cosmo: you can puts before command: whatis blalala
[10:10] <juk> !info whatis
[10:10] <elFidel> navin_: you are most likely looking for an app which is able to access the webcam right?
[10:10] <juk> !info wtf
[10:10] <luckymurali> i have ubuntu live cd
[10:11] <luckymurali> zvacet, I have live cd
[10:11] <juk> !find wtf
[10:11] <navin> elFidel:i want to take a snap with my cam...how can i ?
[10:11] <luckymurali> and i boot with that live cd
[10:11] <deuterium> hm on my 10.10 desktop box, computer janitor doesn't show anything at alll. does it takes several minutes to gather information or is sth fscked up?
[10:11] <barbadillo> blackdoggy, it is not in the repositories
[10:11] <blackdoggy> yeah barbadillo www.ubuntu-tweak.com
[10:11] <blackdoggy> let me check
[10:11] <deuterium> i.e. there's no refresh, just a white, two-pane when i start computer-janitor
[10:11] <elFidel> navin: cheese - might be one app
[10:11] <luckymurali> i let you know after it loaded completely
[10:12] <deuterium> do i need to run computer-janitor as root or so for it to show sth?
[10:12] <zvacet> luckymurali:  just a sec
[10:13] <blackdoggy> yeah barbadillo follow this http://www.beakkon.com/geek/10-best-applications-for-ubuntu-10.10
[10:13] <adac> hi, is it possible, if a service has been acknowledged, that the acknowledgment message is sent via mail? If yes, how?
[10:14] <aerofly5> having trouble installing ubuntu 10.10, I install it to the hard drive and when I reboot it comes up with "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER". Does anyone have any suggestions for fixes?
[10:15] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/761222/
[10:15] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/761223/
[10:15] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/761224/
[10:15] <deuterium> when i run computer-janitor on the console, this is the error i get: http://dpaste.com/502891/ (something with dbus, any idea how to solve it?)
[10:15] <DJones> !ot | micro__
[10:16] <barbadillo> aerofly5, check the bios settings to see if you can boot from cdrom
[10:16] <llutz_> aerofly5: boot live-cd and reinstall grub into mbr
[10:16] <zvacet> luck
[10:17] <aerofly5> barbadillo & llutz: I have tried re-installing grub, but it has no effect. The bios is correctly configured
[10:17] <blackdoggy> aight  m off going to install Xubuntu desktop
[10:17] <stimpie> is it possible to have an application run on 2 workspaces? (not all?)
[10:17] <zvacet> luckymurali: put live cd in drive and type  sudo apt-cdrom -add sudo apt-gget update sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:18] <navin> how i use push command to open my cam??
[10:19] <luckymurali> ok i try now
[10:19] <navin> how i set MAILHOST ?
[10:20] <visual1ce> hi
[10:21] <visual1ce> im installing natty and i run into the following error: not possible to install bootloader at specified location - ive tried all other locations and nothing
[10:21] <llutz_> !natty | visual1ce
[10:23] <deuterium> when i execute computer-janitor on ubuntu 10.10 on the console, i get the following error: http://dpaste.com/502908/
[10:23] <AnubArack> Any of you guys use AWN (Avant window navigator) ?
[10:23] <Cosmo> juk, it gave me a rather wordy error message give me a few minutes to type it in pastebin
[10:23] <deuterium> it's a dbus error, but how to solve it? is computer-janitor b0rked?
[10:23] <juk> !info pastebinit | Cosmo
[10:23] <luckymurali> zvacet, it is telling already i have latest version of desktop
[10:23] <mena> welcom
[10:24] <mena> My name is Mena, i need your hekp
[10:24] <mena> help
[10:24] <AnubArack> mena, just ask
[10:24] <sabbut> Hi, I have a connection problem on my other computer
[10:24] <deuterium> juk: is there any other way how i can clean-up my ubu 10.10, if computer-janitor is broken (it obviously is)?
[10:24] <sabbut> it seems not to be able to connect
[10:24] <mena> i want to view log file which see who connect to my machine
[10:24] <juk> deuterium: gee, i dunno
[10:25] <bullgard> sabbut: Hi, I have no connection problem on my other computer.
[10:25] <AnubArack> deuterium, ever tried removing janitor and reinstalling it ?
[10:25] <mena> who connect with VNC
[10:25] <mena> ?
[10:25] <deuterium> AnubArack: not yet, let me check.
[10:25] <zvacet> luckymurali:  type in terminal startx too see if that is truth
[10:25] <llutz_> mena: as you've been told yesterday, there is no such logfile
[10:26] <sabbut> nice bullgard, it seems you don't need help on that, but I do
[10:26] <AnubArack> Any of you guys use AWN (Avant window navigator) ?
[10:26] <luckymurali> zvacet, its not there
[10:26] <luckymurali> is it possible to download only the gnome-desktop package??
[10:27] <bullgard> sabbut: So you better put a specific question here in this channel.
[10:27] <luckymurali> i used live cd to boot and used try ubuntu
[10:27] <luckymurali> so it gaves me a Desktop
[10:27] <mena> llutz, and how can i find anyone connect to my machine later
[10:27] <deuterium> AnubArack: uninstalled computer-janitor and reinstalled it (also the gtk variant). same error.
[10:28] <odd13> hey I have a mac...can I have it as just ubuntu installed or do I need bootcamp and mac os installed to run?
[10:28] <sabbut> bullgard: that's what i'm doing - my other computer, which has Ubuntu 9.10, suddenly lost the connection
[10:28] <deuterium> where does ubuntu store downloaded packages it doesn't need anymore?
[10:28] <mena> just i nned to want how can i open log file which stored usere data login
[10:28] <juk> !dualboot | odd13
[10:28] <zvacet> luckymurali:  another way is to use keryx read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing%20packages%20without%20an%20Internet%20connection
[10:28] <sabbut> I know I have a connection because I'm writing here
[10:28] <Rabbitbunny> Only 14 days uptime this time on 10.04. Linux isn't ready for the desktop.
[10:28] <llutz_> mena: better question would be: why do you have all those services like vnc etc running if you don't want them
[10:28] <Rabbitbunny> deuterium: I'm pretty sure apt-get autoremove get rid of those.
[10:29] <bullgard> deuterium: Normally it discards them.
[10:29] <sabbut> the thing is, I'd like to know what I can do for the system to find the existing connection
[10:29] <odd13> thanks juk
[10:29] <zvacet> luckymurali:  before you do that can you try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:29] <deuterium> Rabbitbunny: ok, let me try. thanks
[10:30] <deuterium> bullgard: hm.. my system has swollen to 4.5 gb.. it was around 2.5 gb before.
[10:30] <mena> llutz, i need this  to connect my fried but the most question now, how this person connect with my without i told him my password to connect?
[10:30] <bullgard> sabbut: lsof -i
[10:30] <Savage^> mena: we cannot understand you...
[10:30] <mena> savage, i will explain this situation now
[10:31] <micro__> все смотрим http://pic4you.ru/10376/761222/
[10:31] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/761223/
[10:31] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/761224/
[10:31] <masterjp> русский
[10:31] <mena> savage, in team viewer and etc the client how want to connect the server must has its paeeowrd
[10:31] <sabbut> bullgard: it shows nothing
[10:31] <jpds> !ru | masterjp
[10:31] <zvacet> luckymurali:  I will go for something lighter like lubuntu-desktop or fluxbox openbox... but any desktop can do
[10:32] <deuterium> bullgard, Rabbitbunny: would computer-janitor do anything additional compared to 'apt-get autoremove', 'apt-get autoclean'?
[10:32] <mena> savage let say when i need you connect to my by VNC , i must tell you the password that by it you can connect to me
[10:32] <v_v> zvacet: try awesome, i like it
[10:32] <llutz_> mena: either someone already has your password or you have a heavily misconfigured system
[10:32] <DJones> micro__: those links/pictures are not on topic for the ubuntu support channel, please stop posting them
[10:32] <mena> llutz: what?
[10:33] <zvacet> v_v:  thanx for tip but it was suggestion for somebody else
[10:33] <mena> llutz: i am sure i didn't tell anyone my password
[10:33] <v_v> zvacet: ;-)
[10:34] <Cosmo> juk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/580508/
[10:34] <zvacet> v_v:  when we are taking about it where Ican find deb
[10:34] <llutz_> mena: then your system seem to allow remote-access without password, even worse
[10:35] <juk> Cosmo: you need to rebuild module
[10:35] <mena> llutz, okay anyway i need to view the log file ?
[10:35] <llutz_> mena: there is no such log
[10:36] <visual1ce> how do i run install in expert mode
[10:36] <visual1ce> ?
[10:36] <Cosmo> juk,  and how do I do that?
[10:37] <species> its on option when you boot from the CD i think
[10:37] <species> actually I think the real expert mode is to use aptitude after you got a base install :P
[10:37] <visual1ce> im using a live cd
[10:38] <fitriza> f
[10:38] <juk> Cosmo: remove nvidia-current; after update and upgrade; and install again
[10:38] <fitriza> paha
[10:38] <mena> llutz, this is the log file of TeamViewer, http://paste.ubuntu.com/580514/
[10:39] <mena> llutuz : need your help to see if we can find the solution on this file
[10:39] <Cosmo> juk, what are the commands to do that?
[10:39] <deuterium> can i safely delete the files in /var/cache/apt/archives ? what are they? i expected apt-get autoclean to remove anything unneeded already.
[10:40] <juk> Cosmo: apt-get remove foobar; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[10:40] <deuterium> removing the files in /var/cache/apt/archives would free about 200 mb on my box. ok?
[10:40] <Tm_T> deuterium: autoclean removes the old versions of the packages, clean takes the whole cache
[10:41] <ethanol> wow, I switched to display time and numbers and stuff to dutch
[10:41] <llutz_> mena: i don't have www here, cannot check your log. why didn't you show that log yesterday, why didn't you tell us yesterday that you're using teamviewer?
[10:41] <ethanol> and it has been taking like 5 minutes so far to apply :<
[10:41] <Cosmo> juk, thanks I will try that
[10:41] <mena> llutz: iam so sorry
[10:41] <larious> Anybody in the room using Huawei EC226 USB Modem please talk to me
[10:41] <llutz_> mena: ask teamviewer-support how to find out who accessed your computer
[10:41] <yuzodo> Hi there, I'm having serious issues. When I installed 10.10 (when it came out) my wifi didn't work and a guy provided me with the Lucid driver and with a small hack that worked, until a while ago where I started having random disconnects, that got partially fixed by resetting my modem/router (upon booting I had to try 4x to connect for it to work), but yesterday evening I randomly got disconnected again and I can't seem to find a solu
[10:41] <yuzodo> tion now, I tried resetting my modem/router, I tried ConnMan instead of NetworkManager, I am currently on wired, which surprisingly works because of Wicd although I haven't launched it or made it auto-start. So, what should I do?
[10:42] <deuterium> Tm_T: ah ok, so i should have executed apt-get clean, right? or is there any good reason for keeping that cache, apart from obvious performance improvements for apt?
[10:42] <juk> Cosmo: Ok
[10:42] <minimec> larious: What is your problem with the EC226?
[10:42] <Tm_T> deuterium: pretty much only to have them around if you decide to reinstall packages, so you don't have to redownload
[10:43] <mena> llutz, i tell you again " how did anyone to connect my desjtop without learn my passwork?
[10:43] <deuterium> Tm_T: ok. my main priority now is to keep the footprint on the disk as small as possible. re-downloading things later doesn't matter. thanks.
[10:43] <mena> llutz, are you understand me?
[10:43] <llutz_> mena: i say again: ask teamviewer-support how to find out who accessed your computer
[10:43] <zvacet> deuterium:  run sudo apt-get clean  sudo apt-get auto-clean
[10:44] <juk> !atitude | mena
[10:44] <micro__> or /msg dpkg paste)
[10:44] <llutz_> mena: team-viewer is somewhat proprietary stuff
[10:44] <juk> !attitude | mena
[10:44] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/760453/
[10:44] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/760454/
[10:44] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/760455/
[10:44] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/760456/
[10:44] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/760457/
[10:44] <FloodBot2> micro__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:44] <micro__> http://pic4you.ru/10376/760458/
[10:44] <zvacet> deuterium:  in /var/cache/apt/archives are all installed packages
[10:44] <DJones> !ops | micro__ Spamming/inappropriate content
[10:45] <deuterium> zvacet: ok, did that. apt's cache files have gone now. i'm at 4.0 gb now. better than 4.5, but still a lot for a plain ubuntu desktop
[10:45] <yuzodo> Hi there, I'm having serious issues. When I installed 10.10 (when it came out) my wifi didn't work and a guy provided me with the Lucid driver and with a small hack that worked, until a while ago where I started having random disconnects, that got partially fixed by resetting my modem/router (upon booting I had to try 4x to connect for it to work), but yesterday evening I randomly got disconnected again and I can't seem to find a solu
[10:45] <yuzodo> tion now, I tried resetting my modem/router, I tried ConnMan instead of NetworkManager, I am currently on wired, which surprisingly works because of Wicd although I haven't launched it or made it auto-start. So, what should I do?
[10:45] <bullgard> deuterium: "[11:32]	<deuterium>	bullgard, Rabbitbunny: would computer-janitor do anything additional compared to 'apt-get autoremove', 'apt-get autoclean'?" Yes.
[10:45] <deuterium> bullgard: i.e.?
[10:46] <bullgard> deuterium: Yes is Yes.
[10:46] <zvacet> deuterium:  but you probably install additional packages
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> yuzodo: when you get a disconnect, run:  dmesg | tail    the output may give clues
[10:46] <mena> ubuntu, I am so sorry
[10:46] <minimec> larious: I am trying to talk to you. What are your problems with the Huawei EC226?
[10:46] <yuzodo> ActionParsnip, I don't get disconnects anymore
[10:46] <mena> llutz, i am so sorry \
[10:46] <deuterium> bullgard: ok, i take that as a "i don't know, sorry" ;)
[10:47] <bullgard> deuterium: You took it wrong.
[10:47] <yuzodo> ActionParsnip, also, I have tried the 2 drivers I can choose from Additional Drivers but those didn't work either
[10:47] <deuterium> zvacet: yes, i did. chromium, firefox and some others. but i think i couldn't get ubuntu desktop 10.10 down to less than about 3.2 gb, i guess.
[10:48] <deuterium> which is still a lot
[10:48] <deuterium> bullgard: never mind ;)
[10:48] <larious>  Anybody in the room using Huawei EC226 USB Modem please talk to me
[10:48] <minimec> larious: I am trying to talk to you. What are your problems with the Huawei EC226?
[10:49] <yuzodo> ActionParsnip, is there a way I can perform the hack again? I still have the Lucid driver lying around
[10:49] <larious> minimec: Need driver to connect to the Internet with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[10:50] <larious> yuzodo: what Hack do you want to perform
[10:50] <larious> minimec: Need driver to connect to the Internet with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[10:50] <yuzodo> larious, basically the "hack" was putting the driver in some folder and then reboot which made my wifi work flawlessly
[10:51] <larious> can that work for my USB modem
[10:51] <zvacet> deuterium:  maybe you will find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD useful
[10:51] <minimec> larious: I my eyes, you don't. The EC226 should be recognized by the system out of the box. Plug the dongle once and type 'dmesg' in a console. The last 5-6 lines of dmesg should give you the info about your device and how it is recognized by ubuntu.
[10:52] <zvacet> deuterium:  after minimal install you just add what you really need
[10:53] <Slartibart> Sitting here with some text files, and need to find the file(s) that contain say 3-4 given words(in no given order, of course). How to do that in a smart way? All I can come up with right now is actually something with grep, like iterative searches with it. List filenames containing word 1->New search on those files for word 2, and so on. Are there any better ways?
[10:53] <larious> minimec: Have I did that serveral time, but using wvdial option, the network told me that is disconnect, the username and password Error ... No carrier
[10:53] <Cosmo> juk, I have removed,updated, and upgraded now what am I installing?
[10:53] <yuzodo> Hi there, I'm having serious issues. When I installed 10.10 (when it came out) my wifi didn't work and a guy provided me with the Lucid driver and with a small hack that worked, until a while ago where I started having random disconnects, that got partially fixed by resetting my modem/router (upon booting I had to try 4x to connect for it to work), but yesterday evening I randomly got disconnected again and I can't seem to find a solu
[10:53] <yuzodo> tion now, I tried resetting my modem/router, I tried ConnMan instead of NetworkManager, I tried the 2 drivers I can choose from Additional Drivers but those don't work either, I am currently on wired, which surprisingly works because of Wicd although I haven't launched it or made it auto-start. So, what should I do?
[10:53] <llutz_> Slartibart: grep -r -e pattern1 -e pattern2 -e pattern3 /path/*
[10:54] <juk> Cosmo: nvidia-current same as you removed
[10:54] <minimec> larious: The problem might be, that your sim card in the Huawei dongle is PIN protected. You might have to put this sim card into a phone and disable that PIN identification. That's all. The network-manager software doesn't give you the possibility to identify you with the PIN. --> Again, disable PIN on the sim card.
[10:54] <zvacet> deuterium:  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[10:54] <Cosmo> ok
[10:54] <minimec> larious: You don't need wvdial anymore to configure your device. The network-manager can handle that now.
[10:54] <Slartibart> llutz_: Really? Didn't know -e could be repeated like that. Thanks, that should do it :).
[10:55] <AndrewRSM> I just set up a dual boot of XP and lubuntu 10.10. Everything was going fine, I was just wrestling with enabling wireless on ubuntu a little bit. After updating packages I restarted, and winxp no longer shows in grub. Just lubuntu twice, twice recovery, and two memtests. How can I return XP to the grub menu, or do I have something else wrong?
[10:55] <b0yce> i have a question about ubuntu 10.04. i am used to windows but decided to give ubuntu 10.04 a try but the sound is all whack. my speakers r plugged in at the back of my pc and my speakers have a headphone jack. i can configure it on winxp using realtek HD audio but linux does not seem to have a similar configuration?
[10:55] <larious> yuzodo: the guy that gave you the driver, did you get him from this room
[10:55] <yuzodo> larious, yeah I did
[10:56] <llutz_> minimec: networkmanager has a pin-handling function
[10:56] <larious> minimec: My device is not using PIN cos I do make use of it in window environment and it works without PIN, and this device is not universal that you can change sim card, this device is programmer with one network
[10:57] <deuterium> zvacet: thanks for the pointers. i can't follow the synthetic approach as i already have a system, so i'm rather trying to shrink it down. but i have some ideas which programs i could remove and don't need (it's for software development only, so i don't need multimedia apps or games and such that are installed by default)
[10:57] <larious> yuzodo: So what is the guy common ID
[10:57] <minimec> llutz_: Oh. Didn't know that... THX
[10:57] <yuzodo> larious, I can't remember lol, it was back in October '10
[10:58] <larious> yuzodo: nest time you need to keep record
[10:58] <b0yce> anyone?
[10:58] <larious>  minimec: My device is not using PIN cos I do make use of it in window environment and it works without PIN, and this device is not universal that you can change sim card, this device is programmer with one network
[10:58] <mena> llutz: can i ask question plz?
[10:58] <yuzodo> larious, I'll keep that in mind, but that won't fix my current issue right
[10:59] <blackshirt> hello
[10:59] <blackshirt> mena: yeah
[10:59] <larious> yuzodo: cos you cant get him  anymore
[11:00] <yuzodo> larious, or maybe it was an update which started to break it?
[11:00] <minimec> larious: Still. I do guess that the harware is working correctly. In my eyes it is a configuration problem. As you always trying to configure your device with wvdial, why don't you try to configure your device with the network-manager?  use a Huawei E180 that way.
[11:00] <IProteus> I'm using upstart to start a process, does upstart store the pid of the process somewhere?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> b0yce: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[11:00] <mena> blackshirl: it's the continue of my last question ,
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> b0yce: select to upload to the server, it will make a URL
[11:00] <b0yce> i have no idea. i am not on linux atm
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> b0yce: the run it in Linux and get the link for us and we can advise :)
[11:01] <blackshirt> mena: sory, i'm just join here
[11:01] <b0yce> i am a linux noob and what u just typed is foriegn to me lol
[11:01] <larious> minimec: My APN is the main problem and the technical support never want to help me for the APN cos they believe that I want to hack there network for free browsing
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> b0yce: you just copy and paste it to a terminal. I am sure you are quite adept at copy and paste
[11:02] <b0yce> ok brb i will load linux up
[11:03] <mena> blachshirl : thanks
[11:03] <blackshirt> mena; yeah.thats no problem
[11:04] <Cosmo> juk, ok I installed it again and rebooted, it started in the text mode again and when I typed X it said Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)  no drivers available
[11:04] <minimec> larious: I mean the APN wouldn't change on windows... So if you can configure the device with windows, you should be able to do the same under Linux. I don't see the problem.
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Cosmo: try:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms
[11:04] <llutz_> larious: its unlikey to get the modem working without the APN
[11:05] <yuzodo> what's the command to see my internet card?
[11:05] <clr> i'm in china.cannot connect twitter.What should i do? VPN???
[11:05] <dcorbin_wrk> will old-style init.d scripts trigger upstart events?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> yuzodo: sudo lshw -C network
[11:06] <yuzodo> um...
[11:06] <yuzodo> ok got it
[11:06] <yuzodo> BCM4312 802.11a/b/g
[11:07] <juk> Cosmo: dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[11:07] <yuzodo> I have b43-fwcutter already installed
[11:07] <ChrisHedgie> Well, I'm not seeing any rules or "lineup", so if I may, I'll just ask my question out there: Is there any solution to why sound and/or video skips on Ubuntu? All my mp3 songs skip, and Youtube tends to skip along the videos...
[11:09] <yuzodo> ActionParsnip, I reinstalled b43 fwcutter, what now?
[11:10] <b0yce> ok i am on ubuntu
[11:10] <przemek_> hi, I've got a problem with xterm window while on extended dual screen display
[11:10] <b0yce> ActionParsnip,
[11:10] <rkeiii> is
[11:12] <goddard> are they really trying to make Ubuntu look like Mac?
[11:12] <B9> Hello my Banshee is throwing an invocation error and wont open I would really appreciate some assistance in getting it to work again. B9HH
[11:13] <Cosmo> juk, ok I did that
[11:13] <juk> B9: wont open what?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> b0yce: sup?
[11:14] <b0yce> im back and on ubuntu 10.04
[11:15] <b0yce> so what do i do now?
[11:15] <B9> juk: it is like it opens two Banshee applications at the same time and then has a dialogue box  that says "Fatal Error ~ Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation."
[11:15] <Cosmo> juk, it is still in the text interface
[11:16] <juk> Cosmo: lsmod | grep nv any output?
[11:16] <fruitwerks> how do I git this? http://git.openvz.org/pub/linux-2.6.32-openvz/
[11:16] <goddard> you say git gimmie
[11:16] <minimec> B9: I would first try to rename the banshee-1 folder in your /home/yourname/.config folder. That would start a clean banshee session with system default configuration.
[11:17] <fruitwerks> the instrctions say git clone (http|git)://git.openvz.org/pub/<project name> <destination dir>
[11:17] <fruitwerks> git clone http://git.openvz.org/pub/linux-2.6.32-openvz/ here
[11:18] <fruitwerks> I get the error: warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.
[11:18] <tombaugh> Hi all... Is there a way to manually disconnect devices such as ttyACM0? I'm using an application that doesn't exit properly, so the port number keeps increasing ach time I reconnect the device.
[11:18] <Cosmo> juk, the output was nvidia       8097831    0
[11:18] <mena> when i shut-down my machine , it's hanging
[11:19] <juk> Cosmo: and X output gives what?
[11:21] <soreau> tombaugh: probably have to look into udev rules
[11:21] <mena> my com is hanging when i try shutdown
[11:21] <b0yce> ActionParsnip,  u there?
[11:22] <B9> minimec: that has done well. thank u. I renamed folder & opened it and now it is rescanning library
[11:22] <Cosmo> juk,  when I typed X it said Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)  no drivers available
[11:23] <soreau> Cosmo: mv or rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:23] <b0yce> can anyone else pls try and help me with my sound?
[11:24] <minimec> B9: Nice! ;)  That would always be my first step if one of my software doesn't work as expected. The folders are normally in /home/yourname, /home/yourname/.config or /home/yourname/.local
[11:24] <Slartibart> grep -l -e word1 -e word2 * lists files with *either* word1 or word2 in them, right?
[11:24] <soreau> b0yce: What kind of card is it?
[11:24] <mena> i get error when i try shut down my pc??
[11:24] <v_v> what's up
[11:25] <Slartibart> the opposite of down
[11:25] <soreau> Slartibart: egrep "word1|word2"
[11:25] <b0yce> soreau,  how do i find it in ubuntu?
[11:25] <soreau> b0yce: lspci if its on the PCI bus
[11:26] <b0yce> and where's that? i have only just loaded ubuntu on the cd. i am a noob at this
[11:27] <juk> Cosmo: sucks, try manually going into /usr/src/nvidia-current-* ; and type: make module; make install
[11:27] <Slartibart> soreau: But that would make an OR condition, right? What if I have to find the files with say 4 given words in them, in any order?
[11:27] <mena> i have problem? my computer is hanging when i try shutdown
[11:28] <B9> minimec: stellar advice I will remember. does it matter what you rename it too? how does this work particular what does it do? I like to know what is going on behind the scene as well
[11:28] <soreau> Slartibart: You might have to write a small oneliner bash script depending on what you want to do exactly
[11:28] <cosmo_> there now I have my desktop back
[11:29] <soreau> cosmo_: compiz --replace and metacity --replace
[11:29] <soreau> cosmo_: one wm replaces the other
[11:29] <jrib> Slartibart: on the same line?
[11:29] <Slartibart> soreau: Thought so.. Thanks.
[11:30] <soreau> Slartibart: #bash if you need bash specific help
[11:31] <juk> soreau: do you have that config removed, im not sure if it's needed by nvidia, mine in there
[11:31] <cosmo_> soreau, I dont have metacity installed only compiz it was nvidia drivers that caused it
[11:32] <minimec> B9: When you start a software for the first time, it will launch with system defaults (Sometimes they are stored in /etc, sometimes in /usr/share/). Afterwards the software will always start with your personal configuration stored in some .xy folder or .xyrc file in your /home/yourname directory. removing that folder or file will force the software to create a new personal config file starting with the system defaults.
[11:32] <soreau> juk: Right now, you probably dont have nvidia-commo installed, but your conf file is set to use the nvidia driver
[11:33] <soreau> juk: So either install the driver or use nouveau (which should be the default without a conf file)
[11:33] <raviepic3> people i own a laptop with ubuntu 10, 64 bit on it. people say they can reset my root password without my access
[11:33] <raviepic3> is this possible ?
[11:33] <L> welcom
[11:33] <raviepic3> if yes what should i do or learn to do to avoid this ?
[11:33] <raviepic3> ?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | raviepic3
[11:33] <soreau> raviepic3: What people are telling you this?
[11:34] <Lorans> welcom
[11:34] <jrib> raviepic3: if they have physical access to the machine they can do that sure (with any unencrypted OS)
[11:34] <juk> soreau: no, i have nvidia enabled
[11:34] <soreau> juk: Do you have nvidia-common installed?
[11:34] <raviepic3> soreau, friends when i talk about linux vs windows
[11:34] <cosmo_> so since I screwed up that instalation what is the correct way to install the newest nvidia drivers?
[11:34] <Lorans> i get error that my computer hangs when i shut-down it
[11:34] <juk> soreau: yes
[11:34] <soreau> raviepic3: Id be willing to wager they dont know what theyre talking about
[11:35] <soreau> juk: And you still get the message no drivers when starting X? Try reinstalling it?
[11:35] <raviepic3> jrib, how to restrict this ? even if they have physical access to my machine they should not be in a position to do it ?
[11:35] <jrib> raviepic3: use encryption
[11:35] <juk> soreau: nvidia acceleration works, just wondering if that config no needed anymore
[11:35] <raviepic3> jrib, any links to read more about it ? encrypt what ? where ? how ?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> juk: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms
[11:36] <soreau> juk: You need an xorg.conf file to use a proprietary graphics driver
[11:36] <Boo1> ребяяяяяяяяяяяятушке
[11:36] <soreau> ! ru | Boo1
[11:36] <Boo1> у меня проблемка еще всплыла =)
[11:36] <penos> what?
[11:36] <juk> soreau: why then you suggested to op to remove it?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> juk: you may need to run: sudo nvidia-xconfic  to generate an xorg.conf (as soreau says) if your monitor is not reporting edid as it should
[11:36] <soreau> juk: If you didnt have nvidia installed and you just wanted to get into X, its an easy way
[11:37] <raviepic3> soreau, challenging them with a known vulnerability is a heavy risk to take, isnt it ! ?
[11:37] <juk> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:37] <soreau> raviepic3: Its not a known vulnerability
[11:37] <raviepic3> =/vulnerability/possibility/
[11:37] <adax> hi
[11:37] <adax> what could the cause be of my laptop fan being on high permanently? Even when starting up from a cold laptop.. it's making a lot of noise.
[11:37] <soreau> ActionParsnip: I said rm or mv, not nvidia-xconfig
[11:38] <raviepic3> soreau, any idea where can i learn more about to avoid this ?
[11:38] <jrib> raviepic3: encrypt everything.  It's up to you to decide if it's worth it to you.  Personally, I only encrypt data that I wouldn't want people to obtain in case my laptop is stolen (my home).  But if you are truly paranoid and don't mind the performance hit, go for your whole system.  You have to decide if it's worth it to you.  For most, it's probably not
[11:38] <cosmo_> to install the most recent nvidia drivers do I use the additional drivers app and choose current or what?
[11:38] <juk> sougata: ah, OK
[11:38] <minimec> B9: The name of the config file is normally given by the software, so just changing the name to 'something' is normally enough. Some software might allow you to start with a given configuration file, like  'irssi --config=~/.irssi/myconfig'
[11:38] <soreau> raviepic3: google or ##linux
[11:38] <soreau> adax: Probably graphics driver driving the card carelessly
[11:39] <soreau> cosmo_: yes
[11:39] <Gnea> !ppa
[11:39] <adax> soreau but it happens as soon as i turn the laptop on.. before drivers are loaded. As soon as i press the power button the fan goes to super high
[11:39] <adimit> OK, so I've about had it with shoddy pulseaudio; now it's not letting me unmute. It starts out muted, I unmute. For a second or so, I'll hear some sound, and then it's gonna mute again. I can spam the unmute button, and then I can hear my audio choppily. WHAT THE …? Anyone knows what's going on?
[11:39] <raviepic3> jrib, from your words i understand he can reset the password and enter into my system but will not be able to take data if encrypted ?! but my question is cant be prevent the entry part itself ?
[11:39] <soreau> adax: Then it doesnt have anything to do with ubuntu. Try ##hardware
[11:40] <adimit> Googling doesn't help. Alsa does. Why am I even keeping Pulseaudio again?
[11:40] <soreau> adimit: You can remove it
[11:40] <soreau> ! pulseaudio | adimit
[11:40] <soreau> and removal instructions
[11:41] <adimit> soreau: at which point everything starts to crash and burn, because Ubuntu is expecting pluse to actually be there (i.e. all the default applications.)
[11:41] <adax> oh ok  thanks
[11:41] <soreau> adimit: No one is forcing you to use ubuntu
[11:41] <jrib> raviepic3: you can set a grub password, make sure your laptop does not boot from anything but the hard drive, set a bios password, but none of this prevents your friend from removing the hard drive, accessing it, then putting it back in your laptop
[11:41] <adimit> yeah, I kinda dread having to reinstall my system, But that's where it's going...
[11:41] <adimit> So I figure, no one here knows the issue either?
[11:42] <cosmo_> to restart the x server do I need to do a full reboot or is there a command?
[11:42] <jrib> cosmo_: sudo service gdm restart
[11:42] <adimit> cosmo_: log out and re-log in.
[11:42] <soreau> raviepic3: Yea, bottom line is, if someone really wants to maliciously hack you, they will find a way. Better try to keep it in a place where no one can gain physical access
[11:43] <raviepic3> oh
[11:43] <soreau> but I dont think one can easily get your password from ubuntu
[11:44] <mklappstuhl> hey
[11:45] <mklappstuhl> does anybody know if it is possible to share my eth0 connection through the wifi network card in my cellphone, which is connected via usb?
[11:45] <ninoz> hi all, i want to log any connections to ports on my server, guessing iptables and some sort of web front end?
[11:46] <soreau> mklappstuhl: Probably with masquerading
[11:46] <elHannos> ninoz: snort may be something for you
[11:46] <penos> lol romantic rectum
[11:47] <penos> hahahahaha
[11:47] <penos> hahahahah
[11:47] <penos> hahahaha
[11:47] <soreau> penos: enough
[11:47] <DJones> penos: Please don't do that
[11:47] <ninoz> thanks elHannos
[11:48] <Akashaa> hi! I've installed lucid lynx on an Asus A6000, the installation went fine, but the system does not start. Grub does not load.
[11:48] <huy29> Hi everybody! I have a problem with Nautilus File Manager :D
[11:48] <soreau> Akashaa: Have you tried installing grub manually?
[11:48] <soreau> ! ask | huy29
[11:49] <Akashaa> soreau: how can I do that if the system does not start?
[11:49] <soreau> Akashaa: From a live session
[11:49] <soreau> ! grub2 | Akashaa
[11:49] <huy29> I cannot access "Computer", "Network" and "Trash" in Nautilus :)
[11:50] <soreau> huy29: What happens when you try?
[11:50] <huy29> http://www.imagesk.com/i9nYvEm5.png
[11:51] <soreau> huy29: Can you try running this? nautilus computer:
[11:51] <huy29> soreau: there is an error messenger: "Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations
[11:51] <jOZe> hola
[11:52] <huy29> I'm using Openbox, everything works fine, expect Nautilus - it's doesn't work
[11:53] <huy29> any help :(
[11:54] <livingdaylight> haro, want burn iso to disc. option burn file or contents. Which?
[11:55] <mklappstuhl> soreau: what does that mean exactly
[11:55] <livingdaylight> ubuntu peeple?
[11:57] <soreau> mklappstuhl: masquerading is a way to share a connection. See this http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CCsQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D91370&ei=AlR_TZLSBtSz0QH12_T2CA&usg=AFQjCNFit-twh9KjrmErWQDKFAd9fEGyEQ&sig2=smJXCB5Zhr-YMrwHruNM0Q
[11:57] <soreau> ugh
[11:58] <soreau> mklappstuhl: I meant this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[11:58] <livingdaylight>  haro, want burn iso to disc. option burn file or contents. Which?
[11:59] <dcorbin_wrk> Is there a way to have upstart log what events are being fired?
[11:59] <huy29> livingdaylight: Are you using K3b??
[11:59] <soreau> dcorbin_wrk: /var/log/syslog ?
[12:00] <soreau> livingdaylight: You might be able to get away with wodim -v /path/to/image.iso dev=/dev/sr0
[12:01] <dcorbin_wrk> soreau: I do not find such in there.  There is some logging from some of the init-launched daemons, but not from init
[12:01] <dcorbin_wrk> (that I can see
[12:01] <huy29> When I try running Nautilus, there an error messenger: "Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations". Any help :)
[12:01] <livingdaylight> huy29, i use gnome
[12:02] <Wise_> what's the easiest way to migrate a linux install to a new harddrive?
[12:02] <rafael> test
[12:02] <Wise_> could I make a disk image off the original harddrive and put that on the new one later?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Wise_: rsync or dd
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Wise_: or partimage
[12:03] <kodapa> winXperts__: 57
[12:03] <kodapa> damn
[12:04] <kodapa> winXperts__: tried to write /win[tab]57 to change irssi window, sorry
[12:04] <soreau> huy29: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/141637-solved-nautilus-cannot-handle-computer-locations.html
[12:04] <huy29> soreau: thank you :)
[12:04] <soreau> Wise_: Or just install both hdds side by side and cp -a
[12:05] <Wise_> soreau; and that should work without problems?
[12:05] <soreau> Wise_: Well, you want to pay attention to /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab and edit accordingly
[12:05] <elHannos> Wise_: If there is a bootloader on the partition you want to copy, you have to handle that seperate, if you work with 'cp'.
[12:06] <soreau> huy29: Let me know if that works
[12:06] <soreau> Wise_: Yea, have to configure the boot loader etc
[12:07] <huy29> soreau: I tried: "sudo mv /usr/local /usr/local.old & sudo mkdir /usr/local" but it doesn't work
[12:07] <soreau> huy29: Well I think its a bug in gvfs
[12:07] <Wise_> elHannos; ok so what about just making a disk image, would that avoid bootloader/fstab/mtab-editing / problems?
[12:08] <huy29> soreau: :D, yeah, I think so
[12:08] <pokebear> Lets say I would like to have this terminal opened every time I start my computer, with irssi and connecting to this network. How would I make something like that happen? I'm a total newbie to Linux
[12:09] <soreau> huy29: Ok, try rebooting
[12:09] <raven> gpodder - what's this?? http://picpaste.com/9e4769c8566bdabb50d2c18d5f7f46aa.png
[12:09] <huy29> soreau: okay :D
[12:10] <soreau> pokebear: You can set apps to start in sys>prefs>startup applications
[12:10] <soreau> pokebear: gnome-terminal -x irssi
[12:10] <soreau> or whatever command you use to start your irc client
[12:10] <pokebear> soreau: Thanks alot!
[12:11] <soreau> np
[12:12] <Senjai> Stupid question: Im just really curious, What C++ editor was used on the social code? I havent seen it before
[12:12] <soreau> Senjai: The social code?
[12:12] <Senjai> The movie.
[12:12] <soreau> Senjai: You mean the social network?
[12:12] <raven> gpodder - what's this?? http://picpaste.com/9e4769c8566bdabb50d2c18d5f7f46aa.png
[12:12] <yuzodo> hi there guys
[12:13] <yuzodo> i installed ndiswrapper so i can use windows drivers for my wifi on ubuntu, however i don't have windows anymore so i can't get them, unless you guys know how?
[12:13] <Senjai> soreau: this one: http://bit.ly/dG3TnPhttp://bit.ly/dG3TnP
[12:13] <Senjai> soreau: http://bit.ly/dG3TnP sorry.. the one in that picture
[12:14] <raven> how to controll the networking traffic on mobile networks?
[12:14] <Senjai> raven: you mean 3G/edge?
[12:14] <soreau> Senjai: I cant really tell. Could be geany but probably some vim variant
[12:14] <raven> yes
[12:14] <Senjai> raven: thats illegal
[12:14] <Senjai> !ot | raven
[12:15] <raven> Senjai, i am looking for a tool ive just forgotten
[12:15] <yuzodo> c'mon yo, I'm in a hurry
[12:15] <yuzodo> lol
[12:15] <Senjai> raven: I dont, and Im sure ubuntu doesnt support hacking 3g networks
[12:15] <romantic_rectum> Hi all. I've got a problem. When I chose from gnome panel drive which is not yet mounted the system promps me for password. I guess it may have something to do with the fact that I hashed user in visudo, still I would like it to keep it that way. Any suggestions?
[12:15] <Senjai> raven: if your looking for liek a 3g api thats different
[12:15] <raven> NOT HACKING
[12:15] <Komotive> Hello all
[12:15] <Senjai> raven: OH sorry :(
[12:15] <Senjai> raven: Your looking for a tool to get something on a network then? A Driver?
[12:15] <Senjai> soreauI think its vim
[12:16] <Komotive> I wonder if anyone can help with an UbuntuOne issue I'm experiencing?
[12:16] <Senjai> soreau: Its nice though
[12:16] <raven> how to display the used networking traffic on mobile networks per month?
[12:16] <soreau> yuzodo: What wifi chip is it?
[12:16] <yuzodo> how can i retrieve windows' wifi driver(s)?
[12:16] <yuzodo> soreau, broadcom 4312
[12:16] <yuzodo> soreau, i've tried literally everything but ndiswrapper
[12:17] <Senjai> raven: Uhmm, for your own devices? I dont know, you might need to install a monitoring tool on the devices.
[12:17] <soreau> yuzodo: You can get drivers from the manufacturers website usually
[12:17] <soreau> ! broadcom | yuzodo
[12:17] <yuzodo> soreau, so from broadcom or dell?
[12:17] <raven> Senjai, i am looking for such a monitoring tool
[12:17] <Senjai> raven, hmm let me check
[12:17] <soreau> yuzodo: broadcom or use the linux drivers
[12:18] <Senjai> raven, for what mobile device?
[12:18] <Abhijit> hi
[12:18] <yuzodo> soreau, k, tried the linux ones, had issues and stuff
[12:18] <Abhijit> anyone with qt knowledge?
[12:18] <Abhijit> help
[12:18] <soreau> yuzodo: issues with what?
[12:18] <raven> Senjai, 3g stick
[12:18] <Senjai> OH
[12:18] <soreau> ! ask | Abhijit
[12:18] <yuzodo> soreau, lemme tell you by PM
[12:18] <Senjai> okay, so its just a 3g stick on your computer?
[12:18] <Abhijit> when i try to run g++ qtap.cpp it give error qttui not found. but the same file runs in qt creator
[12:18] <Abhijit> whats missing?
[12:18] <Abhijit> how to tell g++ where to look fot qtgui
[12:18] <Abhijit> help
[12:19] <Senjai> Abhijit Check out #qt-creator if nobody here can answer your question
[12:19] <Senjai> raven, its just a 3g stic off of your computer?
[12:19] <Abhijit> Senjai, no
[12:19] <pokebear> Another question: How do I search for files in a terminal window? I would like to start using the terminal as much as possible, as I want to get away from the user interface as much as possible. : >
[12:19] <Abhijit> Senjai, its nothing to do with qt creator. its to do with ubuntu
[12:19] <dcorbin_wrk> pokebar: man find
[12:19] <lesshaste> I get a really weird corrupted text problem which I think is down to my graphics griver.. I am using radeon.. is there an alternative?
[12:19] <raven> Senjai, yes
[12:20] <Abhijit> qt creator runs my application is not my problem.
[12:20] <Abhijit> g++ dont run my application IS my problem
[12:20] <Pici> pokebear: man find, but thats rather intimidating.  find /path/ -iname "*words*"   will do a case-insenstive search for files in /path/
[12:20] <Pici> pokebear: That should get you started with understanding how the switches for find work.
[12:20] <Senjai> Abhijit from my knowledge of C++, you dont have your paths set to find the library
[12:20] <soreau> Abhijit: You have to use -L /path/to/qtlib
[12:20] <Senjai> Abhijit ^^
[12:21] <soreau> lesshaste: What card is it?
[12:21] <Abhijit> soreau 'where' to look for qt includes in 'UBUNTU'?
[12:21] <lesshaste> soreau: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series] [1002:5954]
[12:21] <Senjai> raven, that should be simple
[12:21] <pokebear> Well, I want to look for the irssi config-file, but I don't know where the application gets installed when I use apt-get install-cmd. So for searching for files, where I don't know where to look? :-P
[12:21] <soreau> Abhijit: /usr/lib probably
[12:21] <lesshaste> soreau: it's a newish problem (on lucid lynx) so I assume it's a bug
[12:21] <Senjai> raven, http://humdi.net/vnstat/ maybe?
[12:21] <raven> Senjai, ok tnx
[12:22] <soreau> lesshaste: I think its already fixed upstream in recent kernels
[12:22] <yuzodo> soreau, I can't find the driver on the site
[12:22] <lesshaste> soreau: oh.. you heard of it?
[12:22] <lesshaste> soreau: I am not alone! :)
[12:22] <Senjai> raven, seeing as though your using a 3g stick, any network logger will work for your purposes
[12:22] <soreau> lesshaste: Yes, I had font corruption for awhile
[12:22] <Dr_Willis_TCL> pokebear,  try a 'sudo updatedb' then a 'locate irssi'
[12:22] <lesshaste> soreau: any idea of a bug reference?
[12:22] <soreau> lesshaste: Are you using xorg-edgers repo?
[12:22] <lesshaste> soreau: I don't think so.. I think I am just on the default
[12:23] <Senjai> soreau, is qt in ubuntu by default?
[12:23] <joeghi> anyone knows what is the chkconfig equivalent in ubuntu for turning on and off services?
[12:23] <pokebear> Dr_Willis_TCL: Thanks alot
[12:23] <lesshaste> soreau: but I installed this a while ago so how do I check?
[12:23] <Dr_Willis_TCL> joe75,  theres the service command.. but that does not permently disable services.
[12:23] <soreau> lesshaste: Can you do a test for me please? Do videos play ok for you? Specifically, xv output: mplayer -vo xv /path/to/some/video.ext
[12:23] <Dr_Willis_TCL> joe75,  never noticed a command that manages upstart that way. theres some for the older sysv services..
[12:23] <joe75> tab fail >_>
[12:24] <soreau> Senjai: I dont think so
[12:24] <soreau> Senjai: Its more of a kde thing
[12:24] <serpentologist> How do i start Ubuntu in console mode? I mean without graphical system running
[12:24] <jrib> serpentologist: why?  Forever or just once?
[12:24] <Dr_Willis_TCL> serpentologist,  use the 'text' kernel boot option is one way
[12:24] <joe75> Hexley: tab complete ftl
[12:24] <soreau> serpentologist: Append single to the kernel line
[12:24] <Dr_Willis_TCL> that disables gdm from starting and disables plymouth
[12:25] <Dr_Willis_TCL> i wonder how single differs from text.. Perhaps some services dont get started in single?
[12:25] <lesshaste> soreau: which part of the output do you want? http://pastebin.com/c2pCLsH5
[12:25] <soreau> Dr_Willis_TCL: I am wondering too now
[12:25] <Dr_Willis_TCL> single auto logs in dosent it? ive not used single in ages.
[12:25] <soreau> Dr_Willis_TCL: single is used for recovery mode afaik
[12:25] <Dr_Willis_TCL> single = opens a root shell? or is that recovery.  :)
[12:25] <jrib> soreau, Dr_Willis_TCL: yes, single is recovery mode
[12:26] <Dr_Willis_TCL> single = recovery then? but recovery also launches that recovery menu.
[12:26] <soreau> lesshaste: I dont want the output, I just wanted to know if it plays ok
[12:26] <lesshaste> soreau: plays fine :)
[12:26] <soreau> lesshaste: Try installing xorg-edgers and see if the problem goes away
[12:26] <Senjai> Does anyone know a media player in Ubuntu that has output quality similar to iTunes?
[12:26] <serpentologist> is there some key combination to press during boot process to launch a menu with possible options for booting? i tried pressing esc but it had no effect
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> serpentologist: add the boot option:  text     and you will be a user in text mode, no X server will run
[12:27] <aCiD2> Hi, having a bit of trouble getting grub2 to work now that I've changed hard drives. I've updated /etc/fstab to point to my new partition uuids, and update-grub uses the correct /boot partition, but is still using my old / uuid (on the other drive)
[12:27] <lesshaste> soreau: ok.. thanks.. I should find the bug reference too
[12:27] <joeghi> Dr_Willis_TCL: then how to enable or disable services at startup permanently?
[12:27] <aCiD2> Any idea what I could be missing?
[12:27] <coz_> Senjai,  rhythmbox ?
[12:27] <soreau> Senjai: There used to be songbird, but I think they may have discontinued linux support
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Senjai: depends on config of sound. I use deadbeef + pulseaudio-mixer. Works like a champ
[12:27] <Senjai> coz_, when you use a subwoofer, the quality is poor with rythmbox
[12:27] <jrib> aCiD2: update uuid in grub configuration?
[12:27] <Senjai> ActionParsnip Good quality with a sound system/
[12:27] <serpentologist> ActionParsnip, what file should i edit? grub's menu.lst?
[12:27] <Abhijit> soreau, there is kde 4 and qt 4 folders but they dont have include files
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Senjai: the sound quality is usually down to the initial file played as well as the hardware used
[12:28] <Dr_Willis_TCL> joeghi,  if they are upstart based . rename the ./etc/init/ file. or edit it. as needed. or just remvoe the service.
[12:28] <soreau> ! compile | Abhijit
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> serpentologist: in /etc/default/grub   in the quotes with: quiet splash
[12:28] <aCiD2> jrib: no, since the move to grub2 you don't do that manually
[12:28] <Dr_Willis_TCL> serpentologist,  are you using grub1 or 2?  the text option is for the newer ubuntu versions.. that default to grub2
[12:28] <soreau> Abhijit: You can also try ##c++
[12:28] <aCiD2> jrib: it uses os-prober to determine that stuff now
[12:28] <jrib> aCiD2: well did it?
[12:28] <aCiD2> I'm going to try chrooting into the copied system, and running update-grub from there
[12:28] <aCiD2> jrib: no... hence my question
[12:28] <jrib> aCiD2: yeah, so edit it manually
[12:28] <coz_> Senjai,   here is a list of media players   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_media_players
[12:29] <Senjai> Abhijit your question is a C++ question. Ask in ##c++ for those questions.
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Senjai: try a few, see which you lik. As I say, most of sound quality isn't the app. I suggest you grab pulseaudio mixer so you can tweak the sound
[12:29] <Abhijit> Senjai, no its not.
[12:29] <aCiD2> jrib: no, because then it will just get broken again when I update my kernel
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> see above serpentologist:
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Senjai: sorry, wrong targer
[12:29] <Abhijit> Senjai, c++ is nothing to dith which library is where in my ubuntu
[12:29] <jrib> aCiD2: no it won't
[12:29] <soreau> Senjai: Yea, its probably pulseaudio being crappy, your sound card or audio drivers
[12:29] <jrib> aCiD2: the problem is with your existing entries
[12:29] <Senjai> Abhijit Yes it does, those libraries are installed by qt or kde, not ubuntu
[12:30] <coz_> Senjai,   do you have a pro sound card?
[12:30] <Senjai> Abhijit They do not come with ubuntu, you have to replace them, or find out where they are.
[12:30] <Senjai> coz_ Yes
[12:30] <coz_> Senjai,  same here,,, which one?
[12:30] <Senjai> ActionParsnip Ill check it out, deadbeef sounds cool
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Senjai: its light and able :)
[12:31] <joeghi> Dr_Willis_TCL: update-rc.d can be used or is reserved to package scripts?
[12:31] <coz_> deadbeef is kinda cool
[12:31] <Senjai> coz_ SoundFX I think
[12:31] <coz_> Senjai,   which manufacturer?
[12:31] <Senjai> coz_ one sec let me open my sys info
[12:31] <Senjai> coz_ (on my windows boot atm.)
[12:31] <bullgard> What purpose serves a certain value of the environmant variable GNOME_KEYRING_PID?
[12:31] <coz_> Senjai,  ah ok
[12:31] <aCiD2> Running update-grub within a chroot environment seems to have fixed this
[12:32] <coz_> Senjai,  in ubuntu  simply open alsamixer  it should be listed there  as well
[12:32] <Fuchs> bullgard: it is the unique process identifier
[12:32] <Senjai> coz_ IDT High Def.
[12:32] <Fuchs> bullgard: used to identify the process providing the current keyring process.
[12:32] <Senjai> coz_ its the one that comes with Dell XPS
[12:32] <Laurenceb_> is there a way to make notifications dissapear?
[12:32] <bullgard> Fuchs: Thank you.
[12:32] <Ubunewb> hey does anyone know how to start compiz on startup? ubuntu 10.04. everytime I restart ubuntu, compiz deactivates again
[12:32] <Laurenceb_> theres no cross on them in 10.04
[12:33] <v_v> !compiz
[12:33] <Fuchs> bullgard: you can check it with `pidof` or pgrep
[12:33] <Dr_Willis_TCL> joeghi,  im not sure if that command works with the new Upstart based services or not...
[12:33] <Dr_Willis_TCL> joeghi,  it should work with the older sysv type services.
[12:34] <coz_> Senjai,   seems the driver in windows for that particular card  has given some issues as well... you could check in #alsa for compiling the alsa driver for that specifig card,,, I have to do that ,, espeicially on Lucid,,
[12:34] <coz_> Senjai, If you want full functionality that may be the way to go
[12:35] <Senjai> coz_ alsa?
[12:35] <coz_> Senjai,   yes the alsa sound driver
[12:35] <Senjai> coz_ The reason im on windows is for good sound quality atm
[12:35] <Senjai> coz_ want my music to play on my system properly
[12:35] <coz_> Senjai,  it can be tweaked  during compile.
[12:35] <soreau> Senjai: Then you need to install the right drivers
[12:35] <Senjai> Ohdear
[12:35] <coz_> Senjai,  pulseaudio may not support all features of that card
[12:35] <Senjai> complicated
[12:36] <coz_> Senjai,  not really  for me the command is  ,/configure --with-cards=layla24  --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes
[12:36] <Senjai> coz_ with alsa?
[12:36] <romantic_rectum> I installed xorg and gnome-core, now I have problem mounting drives from nautilus as a user. Help.
[12:37] <Senjai> romantic_rectum you can mount in terminal, but not nautilus?
[12:37] <coz_> Senjai,   yes   that would be the command "for my card" with the alsa driver ,, then the  alsa libs  and then the alsa firmware,,,not sure firmware would be needed on your card  but you might have to do a bit of research
[12:37] <StrangeCharm> is there a good way to tell which firefox addons are slowing things down?
[12:37] <Senjai> coz_ Didnt know about this, thanks for your help[
[12:37] <b0ot> coz_, do you know of anyway that might work to start a script @boot with root access when the script fails with crontab, rc.local, and linking it to init.d (it runs but segfaults when it gets to a program) but runs fine when I wait until ubuntu boots and run it in the terminal? I have also tried to manually set the $PATH and $TERM in the script without sucess.
[12:38] <Senjai> StrangeCharm, probably anything that involves logging, GUI, etc.
[12:38] <romantic_rectum> Senjai, I honestly don't think so, however, accessing unmounted partition from nautilus was never (with regular installations) a problem. I think I just need to set something.
[12:38] <Senjai> romantic_rectum, you dual boot?
[12:38] <coz_> b0ot,  the person here I would trust with script is soreau ,,:)
[12:38] <romantic_rectum> Senjai, Yes.
[12:38] <Senjai> romantic_rectum, do you know what partition your windows machine is on
[12:38] <romantic_rectum> Senjai, Yes.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis_TCL> romantic_rectum, theres proberly some gvfs services you need.
[12:39] <Senjai> romantic_rectum, like /dev/sda3?
[12:39] <Abhijit> Omg!!! Omg!! My first qt application runns successfully!!!! :-D
[12:39] <StrangeCharm> Senjai, i'm not totally clear what the logical extrapolation is from logging and gui
[12:39] <b0ot> soreau, any ideas?
[12:39] <romantic_rectum> Dr_Willis_TCL, that may be it.
[12:39] <romantic_rectum> Senjai, Yes.
[12:39] <coz_> Abhijit,   :)
[12:39] <Abhijit> :-)
[12:39] <pokebear> I am trying to set-up IRSSI using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1010780 - however I can't get pass the "Automatically connect..." part, mkdir $HOME/.irssi/scripts/autorun doesn't work, nothing happens. The second line works, but I can't find it :P
[12:39] <Senjai> romantic_rectum, go into terminal, type: sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/DriveName/ -t ntfs
[12:40] <Senjai> romantic_rectum where drivename is the drive name of your windows partition.
[12:40] <TobalJackson> hello ubuntu chat
[12:40] <Senjai> romantic_rectum first check if that works
[12:40] <Dr_Willis_TCL> pokebear,  is there a .irssi/scripts directory? is there an autorun directroy in that dir?
[12:40] <sacarlson> b0ot: you can create a crontab script with line start of @reboot  to start at boot,  if you sudo crontab -e  then it will be started in root with root privs
[12:40] <TobalJackson> I was wondering if anyone could help me construct a bash script
[12:40] <romantic_rectum> Senjai, it works, already checked it, thou I am using root, not sudo.
[12:40] <pokebear> There's no irssi-dir in home
[12:40] <Dr_Willis_TCL> TobalJackson,  dozens of bash script guides there.
[12:40] <TobalJackson> specifically, I'm trying to figure out if
[12:40] <Dr_Willis_TCL> pokebear,  read it closely.. it says .irssi   see the . ?
[12:40] <b0ot> sacarlson, thanks for the suggestion, but I have already tried that without sucesss. My script will call a program that segfaults
[12:41] <TobalJackson> I can truncate a grep return with SED
[12:41] <Dr_Willis_TCL> pokebear,  its a hidden directory.
[12:41] <Senjai> romantic_rectum oh, your logged in as root?
[12:41] <pokebear> Yes, but there's no such thing. lost+found, +user +Games
[12:41] <Dr_Willis_TCL> TobalJackson,  grep patterh file | sed sedoptoions
[12:41] <sacarlson> b0ot: then add a sleep 30 or some time in your script or find what is needed to be running for it to work
[12:41] <TobalJackson> if i do 'sudo blkid | grep -i NtFs'
[12:41] <romantic_rectum> Senjai, no, just on one of terminals.
[12:41] <pokebear> It didn't create a new dir. Do I need the -pv attributes? Tried running with sudo, nothing happened either.
[12:41] <Dr_Willis_TCL> pokebear,  your home direcotry is for your users..  You most likely dont have those dirs in your home directory.
[12:41] <TobalJackson> and what I want to do is truncate the return to just the '/dev/sdb1'
[12:42] <Dr_Willis_TCL> pokebear,  i think you need to  spend an hr learning some bash basics..
[12:42] <Senjai> romantic_rectum, oh so when you try to mount through nautilus what happend
[12:42] <Dr_Willis_TCL> pokebear,   you did NOT want to use sudo that would make the dir owned by root,
[12:42] <TobalJackson> right now without truncating the return it looks like '/dev/sdb1: LABEL="HD E" ........blah blah'
[12:42] <sacarlson> b0ot: I asume you also provide complete path when you do anything in crontab
[12:42] <romantic_rectum> Senjai, I forgot to mention that it looks the same for ext4 partitions
[12:42] <pokebear> Dr_Willis_TCL: I think so too! :)
[12:42] <b0ot> sacarlson, I was under the impression that the env didn't change if it was called with crontab... is that not correct?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis_TCL> pokebear,  also you may want to check out 'weechat' if you want a console based irc client.
[12:43] <TobalJackson> is there a way to just capture the first 10 characters of a text return
[12:43] <TobalJackson> stdout
[12:43] <sacarlson> b0ot: env is completely different so maybe create a source script to setup as needed
[12:43] <Dr_Willis_TCL> TobalJackson,  awk, or sed can do that i recall.
[12:43] <romantic_rectum> Senjai, 'autentication is requited to mount this device' promps for password.
[12:43] <pokebear> More newbie friendly? :)
[12:43] <buschwusch> herro, i can't get the unity launcher for maverick can't i?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis_TCL> pokebear,  if you want newbie friendly.. get xchat.
[12:43] <TobalJackson> right, I'm pretty sure one of them can too, i just don't know the terminology to earch for
[12:43] <krokop> hi. i've gave a 'chmod -R www-data:www-data /var/www', but everytime i create there dir or file it's created with user priviledges (for example user:group, and i want it do be user:www-data). how can I do that? i want every file and dir to be created with user:www-data priviledges.
[12:44] <b0ot> sacarlson, I guess what i'm asking is if I call something with crontab and the script has a sleep 30, even after the script is called the env is still different than the normal env because it was called with crontab isn't it?
[12:44] <Senjai> Sorry
[12:44] <Senjai> that was weird
[12:44] <pokebear> I like a challenge, I don't mind getting into problems. It's part of the learning process. :P
[12:44] <Dr_Willis_TCL> TobalJackson,  theres dozens of ;'quick awk' script and 'quick sed' examples out there on the web. i always have to look stuff up  when i use them.  dont use them a lotl
[12:44] <jrib> krokop: use Access Control Lists (man setfacl; man getfacl; note you need to add the "acl" option to the partition in fstab)
[12:44] <pokebear> I'll try them both out. Thanks
[12:44] <Dr_Willis_TCL> pokebear,  spend the time learning  some bash first. :)
[12:44] <TobalJackson> Dr_Willis_TCL: what terms should I search for? Truncate stdout with awk|sed?
[12:44] <Senjai> romantic_rectum are you aware your name is romantic rectum/
[12:45] <Dr_Willis_TCL> TobalJackson,  awk/sed oneliners  proberly will tgive pages of quick examples.
[12:45] <romantic_rectum> sejo, ronnie's_rectum was taken.
[12:45] <Senjai> romantic_rectum disturbing lol
[12:45] <krokop> jrib: can umask do this?
[12:45] <TobalJackson> hmm, ok thanks, I'll try searching
[12:45] <sacarlson> b0ot: yes the env is different at start and at end it makes no difference the sesion is closed
[12:46] <soreau> Dr_Willis_TCL: TCL?
[12:46] <b0ot> sacarlson, I already set my $PATH and $TERM variables... what other ones could be causing the problem
[12:46] <jrib> krokop: no. The alternative to using Access Control Lists is to setgid /var/www, make the group www-data, and make sure umask for users is 002.  But this won't work on subdirectories of /var/www/ automatically.
[12:46] <soreau> b0ot: Make sure to use absolute paths
[12:47] <b0ot> soreau, for which part?
[12:48] <soreau> b0ot: use absolute paths to any programs or scripts you are referencing
[12:48] <b0ot> soreau, my scripts start, they just segfault when they call a program, but the program itself starts so I don't think it is a path issue. (I could be mistaken)
[12:48] <sacarlson> b0ot: I'm not sure you need to look inside the scripts you run to see what env values it uses.  maybe just copy the env you know it works in and import that into the cron sesion if needed
[12:48] <soreau> b0ot: If your script is segfaulting, that sounds like more of a personal problem :P
[12:48] <vesh> hello there have ubuntu server installed on virtual box but have limited the hard disk space to 100gig fixed is there anyway of having this increased
[12:48] <b0ot> soreau,  do you know of anyway that might work to start a script @boot with root access when the script fails with crontab, rc.local, and linking it to init.d (it runs but segfaults when it gets to a program) but runs fine when I wait until ubuntu boots and run it in the terminal? I have also tried to manually set the $PATH and $TERM in the script without sucess.
[12:49] <soreau> vesh: Ask in #vbox
[12:49] <b0ot> soreau, so I know the program itself works, just not the way that cron and it's related programs start it
[12:49] <sacarlson> soreau: I guess b0ot must have some custom program that uses some custom libs and when run in cron it must run the wrong lib?
[12:49] <soreau> b0ot: I have no idea what is segfaulting for you or why
[12:50] <soreau> sacarlson: no idea
[12:50] <Dr_Willis_TCL> soreau,  on Tiny Core Linux right now. :)
[12:50] <soreau> Dr_Willis_TCL: oh neat
[12:50] <coz_> ah^^
[12:50] <b0ot> soreau, any ideas on other ways I could start the script?
[12:50] <soreau> b0ot: You pretty much named them all
[12:51] <b0ot> :(
[12:51] <sacarlson> b0ot: maybe your program needs an xserver?
[12:51] <soreau> b0ot: Maybe it would help to explain more exactly what you are trying to do
[12:51] <Dr_Willis_TCL> b0ot,  what is this thing doing exdactly? rc.local is about far into the boot process as it gets..
[12:52] <b0ot> sacarlson, soreau Dr_Willis_TCL I have a script that simply calls a program which was supplied by my mpegencoder vendor that turns on my mpegencoder and streams the video locally via rtp to port 7070
[12:53] <Dr_Willis_TCL> b0ot,  its not got a X GUI interface? text only app?
[12:53] <b0ot> text only, no interaction with it (it does output text letting you know details) but does not require input
[12:53] <TobalJackson> Dr_Willis_TCL: on this page http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.aix.genprogc/doc/genprogc/manip_strings_sed.htm do you think I can use the \d command to somehow capture the first 10 characters of each line?
[12:54] <romantic_rectum> Dr_Willis_TCL, Some people found solution to coresponding problem with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1350526&page=2 ,however, I don't have that files. You mentioned I may need to install something.
[12:54] <Dr_Willis_TCL> TobalJackson,  theres proberly a dozen ways to get the first 10 characters from a line.    You could just use awk/sed  and a regular expression also. to match 10 characters
[12:54] <Dr_Willis_TCL> romantic_rectum,  i dont even remember what your problem is/was :)
[12:55] <sacarlson> b0ot: did you try the delay start of a few minits or whatever time you nomaly take to start in in a terminal.  I guess if your network is slow to get started is the only thing I see that might cause a problem
[12:55] <b0ot> If I could change the program to be able to run at the userlevel would starting the script with startup applications allow it to have the same env as if it I started it normally in terminal after ubuntu loaded? I have also attempted to launch the script with screen?
[12:55] <romantic_rectum> Dr_Willis_TCL, : ) same as in thread. Nautilus (?) request authentication during mount.
[12:56] <b0ot> sacarlson, I could try but the computer boots fairly quickly (ssd)
[12:56] <soreau> b0ot: Have you tried putting a delay to start the script until the system is all the way up?
[12:56] <b0ot> I will go give it a try. I have to go for now. Thank you very much for your suggestions soreau Dr_Willis_TCL sacarlson. I will let you know how it goes.
[12:57] <Dr_Willis_TCL> romantic_rectum,  i dont bother with building minimal gnome builds. :) i tossed all my  older machines.
[12:58] <erez> hello all, I accidentally bind the delete key to a different shortcut, however, when I disabled the shortcut, the delete key still doesn't work
[12:58] <koray> hi everyone
[12:58] <erez> Any ideas how I can fix this?
[12:58] <soreau> erez: How did you bind it?
[12:58] <koray> is there any software you can advise us just like notepad++ ?
[12:58] <erez> System> Preference> Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:59] <erez> I mistook it for backspace to clear a key
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> erez: could you bind DEL to DEL ?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis_TCL> koray,  theres dozens of text editors out there. Personally I perfer geany over notepad++
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> koray: gedit
[12:59] <soreau> Dr_Willis_TCL++
[13:00] <erez> ActionParsnip: that would be something :)
[13:00] <erez> but how
[13:00] <TobalJackson> yesssss
[13:00] <TobalJackson> i got it
[13:00] <TobalJackson> sudo blkid grep -i nTfS | cut -c 1-9
[13:00] <Dr_Willis_TCL> thats how most keys do the binding  stuff.. click on the bind button.. select the key...
[13:00] <TobalJackson> sudo blkid | grep -i nTfS | cut -c 1-9
[13:01] <TobalJackson> cut -c 1-9 captures first 10 characters
[13:01] <erez> koray, Gnome has Gedit which is an excellent editor, KDE has Kate, which is even better
[13:01] <erez> Dr_Willis_TCL, in keyboard shortcuts?
[13:01] <koray> thanks friends
[13:02] <Dr_Willis_TCL> erez,  yes.  I think so.
[13:03] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Im not in gnome so cant check
[13:03] <erez> Dr_Willis_TCL, what's the "delete" action called?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Im not in gnome so cant check.. so no idea
[13:03] <erez> nthsnths
[13:03] <mksysb> Hi there, has anyone had stability issues with 10.10?  I have 10.10/64-bit on ESXi and using tightvnc and all windows are crashing on me
[13:04] <Dr_Willis_TCL> if all else fails. fire up  the gconf editor and look at its shortcuts stuff.
[13:04] <cosmo_> do I need remote desktop to load at startup or can I remove it?
[13:04] <Dr_Willis_TCL> cosmo_,  are you ever going to use the feature? if not then disable it.. i wouldent 'uninstall' it.
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> erez: not sure, not something I do, but it makes sense
[13:05] <cosmo_> Dr_Willis_TCL,  I just meant remove it from startup
[13:05] <Dr_Willis_TCL> cosmo_,  try it and see.. shouldent hurt anything.
[13:05] <Dr_Willis_TCL> if you are not going to use it.. :)
[13:05] <Dr_Willis_TCL> It proberly just checks to see if its enabled
[13:06] <soreau> Dr_Willis_TCL: proberly? lol
[13:06] <Dr_Willis_TCL> the tool has settings to disable it.. so it sees if its set to allow or not.. you are nog really going to notice much differance  if you remvoe the entry i imagien.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> cosmo_: if you don't use it then remove it
[13:08] <gartral> hello all, I booted up this morning and it appears as though my sound system got corrupted.. I can't open open sound preferences too look at anything because it just gives a popup box saying "Waiting for sound system"
[13:09] <gartral> how do i reload?
[13:09] <thiago_apartment> SAVE JAPAN
[13:09] <thiago_apartment> http://cheekiebitches.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/hitler-baby.jpg
[13:09] <coz_> gartral,   you can try   pulseaudio -k ... killall pulsaudio..... pulseaudio --check
[13:09] <coz_> gartral,   then reboot
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> gartral: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r |/.pulse*    then press ALT+F2 and run:  pulseaudio
[13:10] <gartral> coz_: hmm. this is bad pulseaudio -k says No such Daemon
[13:11] <coz_> gartral,  pulseaudio --check to see what is running
[13:11] <soreau> ActionParsnip: How does that work? rm -r |/.pulse*
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> gartral: sorry:  rm -r |/.pulse*   == |~/.pulse*
[13:11] <gartral> coz_: returns me too ~$
[13:11] <coz_> gartral,  mmm
[13:11] <gartral> ActionParsnip: I caught that, but thank you
[13:11] <dudko> hi, pls, how to disable saned? I have no link in rc2.d, no *.conf in /etc/init. tehre is only saned in /etc/default, wtih RUN=no.thanks!
[13:13] <Wise_> how painful would it be to move a linux install to a new harddrive through disk image/clone?
[13:13] <coz_> gartral,  I believe    pulseaudio -D    should restart
[13:13] <Senjai> Wise_, same hardware? painless.
[13:13] <gartral> ActionParsnip: are you sure there should be a pipeline?
[13:14] <Rabbitbunny> Why does YouTube only load a.. tanish (colorblind) box sometimes? Any video. Chromium on 10.04.
[13:14] <Wise_> Senjai; the HDD make and size will be different
[13:14] <coz_> Rabbitbunny,  does this happne in firefox?
[13:15] <gartral> coz_: just followed ActionParsnip's directions, brb rebooting
[13:15] <Senjai> Wise_ not a problem, just make sure you have your boot loader set up properly
[13:15] <coz_> gartral,  ok
[13:15] <Senjai> Wise_, make sure its formatted ext4
[13:15] <Rabbitbunny> coz_: Yes.
[13:16] <coz_> Rabbitbunny,  link me to one
[13:16] <secretary_linux> Hi all. A system fell the way of rm -r on hardlinks the other day. I restored files from a backup, but it just so happens the backup was from before the last kernel update. Now the system is kernel panicing when I try to boot it. How can I reinstall just the kernel and relevant packages from a bootable install USB stick with the server install iso on it?
[13:16] <Senjai> secretary_linux what a well formed question
[13:16] <Senjai> secretary_linux so rare lol
[13:16] <soreau> secretary_linux: Probably need to chroot into the filesystem
[13:17] <secretary_linux> Senjai: thanks, I find that when I'm here not asking questions, I'm usually saying "please expand on what you mean"
[13:17] <Rabbitbunny> coz_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u2ZsoYWwJA&feature=related
[13:17] <coz_> secretary_linux, :)
[13:17] <coz_> Rabbitbunny,  checking
[13:17] <secretary_linux> soreau: yes that sounds right to me. the thing is, I haven't done this without some kind of documentation or safety net
[13:17] <Senjai> secretary_linux, chroot the local filesystem as soreau said
[13:17] <dudko> hi, pls, how to disable saned? I have no link in rc2.d, no *.conf in /etc/init. there is only saned in /etc/default, with RUN=no.thanks!
[13:17] <Senjai> secretary_linux, installing the kernel will not change the files on the disc
[13:18] <soreau> secretary_linux: Try reading how to chroot when repairing grub
[13:18] <soreau> ! grub2 | secretary_linux
[13:18] <erez> Hi, still having this annoying issue:, I accidentally bind the delete key to a different shortcut, however, when I disabled the shortcut, the delete key still doesn't work
[13:18] <gartral> ActionParsnip: thank you very much, what causes that glitch?
[13:18] <soreau> dudko: uninstall it?
[13:18] <Rabbitbunny> erez: Bind it back to 'delete'
[13:18] <gartral> erez: your going too have too rebind it as a delete key
[13:18]  * Senjai is getting distracted by irc again
[13:18] <coz_> Rabbitbunny,  ok this is what I get   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/Screenshot-YouTube%20-%20Louis%20C.K.%20%22Why%3F%22%20-%20Mozilla%20Firefox.png    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/Screenshot-YouTube%20-%20Louis%20C.K.%20%22Why%3F%22%20-%20Mozilla%20Firefox-1.png
[13:18] <erez> thnth
[13:19] <erez> Rabbitbunny, gartral: how do I do that?
[13:19] <dudko> soreau: too easy. who does start saned?
[13:19] <ircuser> Left mouse click doesn't work anywhere except on Desktop, in right click menus. It creates a wobbly effect on click anywhere else. How to solve this?
[13:19] <secretary_linux> is there a way to verify/repair/reinstall all installed packages?
[13:19] <soreau> ! info saned
[13:19] <coz_> Rabbitbunny,  can you screenshot your issue?
[13:19] <soreau> !info saned
[13:20] <gartral> coz_: ActionParsnip fixed me up
[13:20] <coz_> gartral,  very cool :)
[13:20] <Rabbitbunny> coz_: uploading
[13:20] <soreau> ircuser: What do you mean it creates a wobbly effect?
[13:20] <soreau> ircuser: Do you mean like water?
[13:20] <coz_> yeah wobbly :)
[13:20] <coz_> yay
[13:21] <erez> Please, how do I bind it to "delete"? There isn't such an option in the keyboard shortcut menu
[13:21] <ircuser> soreau: Like wobbly effect of Ubuntu desktop. When we select that special effect. Right click works fine.
[13:21] <Senjai> chpsheng, eww IPv6
[13:21] <Rabbitbunny> coz_: http://imgur.com/a/CUee9
[13:21] <soreau> ircuser: You mean rippling effect? Can you show a screenshot?
[13:21] <Senjai> erez, is \b on the shortcut menu?
[13:22] <coz_> Rabbitbunny,  you get no video at all?
[13:22] <Rabbitbunny> coz_: Mhmm
[13:22] <ircuser> I am logged into my office's window machine. I will get one when I go to home but I am not sure I will be able to. Anyway, I will try using Keyboard.
[13:22] <ircuser> soreau: please read above.
[13:22] <coz_> Rabbitbunny,  you have flash installed ...yes?
[13:22] <jatt> compiz is buggy don
[13:22] <jatt> 't use it
[13:22] <Rabbitbunny> coz_: Now, it worked twenty minutes ago, perfectly.
[13:23] <coz_> Rabbitbunny,  whoa... were there recent updates? sorry if you already mentioned that
[13:23] <velope> hola
[13:24] <gartral> jatt: yea, compiz is also outdated, we use Compiz-Fuzion now
[13:24] <coz_> jatt,  ?/ you have a buggy compiz install?
[13:24] <Rabbitbunny> coz_: Oh. I did install a chromium update earlier, but I've rebooted and watched a video since then. And, this has been happening for about a week.
[13:24] <velope> oh, that hola was 3hours late
[13:25] <coz_> Rabbitbunny,  I am sitting here scratching my head,,, let me think
[13:25] <erez> Senjai, no
[13:25] <jatt> I have similar problems, when compiz is on the window selector applet behaves erratically
[13:25] <gartral> jatt: now.. i'll be the first too atest that Compiz is SLOW.
[13:25] <Senjai> erez, backspace?
[13:25] <soreau> gartral: The fusion name has been dropped in favor of compiz
[13:25] <gartral> soreau: i'm joking around :)
[13:26] <Rabbitbunny> coz_: This is gonna get you. I closed firefox, closed the tab in chromium, opened a new tab. now a video is playing.
[13:26] <soreau> gartral: Compiz is only as slow as your graphics hardware/driver combo
[13:26] <jatt> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS whatever Compiz, Fusion, etc. comes with it
[13:26] <erez> Senjai, it's System> Preferences> Keyboard Shortcuts
[13:26] <gartral> soreau: ok mr. killjoy.
[13:26] <coz_> Rabbitbunny,  whoa!  what the heck?
[13:26] <soreau> gartral: This is a support channel, not a comedy club
[13:26] <coz_> Rabbitbunny,   that one definilty puzzles me
[13:26] <coz_> jatt,  which version of compiz are you running?
[13:26] <Rabbitbunny> coz_: So agree it's elves?
[13:27] <coz_> Rabbitbunny,  yes definilty  or maybe gnomes
[13:27] <jatt> compiz 0.8.4
[13:27] <coz_> jatt,  and which video card?
[13:27] <Rabbitbunny> coz_: Thanks. :D
[13:27] <ircuser> soreau: can you tell me any solution?? maybe compiz is doing the trick??? should i remove it???
[13:27] <krokop> how can I disable wifi led blinking?
[13:27] <coz_> Rabbitbunny,  :)  well you solved it sort of  :)
[13:27] <jatt> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3650
[13:28] <dudko> sudo mc
[13:28] <gartral> krokop: that's a very dificult question, the first thing i have too think of is "Can you disable it?"
[13:29] <soreau> ircuser: I dont know what wobbly effect you are talking about but my guess is that you probably have something bound to Button1 in ccsm. Try disabling compiz by setting None in sys>prefs>appearance>Visual Effects tab or run metacity --replace from Alt+F2 run dialog
[13:29] <jatt> haven't tried Radeon's proprietary drivers tho
[13:29] <coz_> krokop,   look here maybe   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1284267
[13:29] <soreau> krokop: black electrical tape
[13:29] <coz_> krokop,  not sure if that is effective or not
[13:31] <gartral> coz_: any way too make lights come on?
[13:31] <ircuser> soreau: What is CCSM?
[13:31] <coz_> gardar,  wifi lights you mean?
[13:31] <soreau> ! ccsm | ircuser
[13:31] <gartral> coz_: any leds.
[13:31] <soreau> ircuser: ccsm = compizconfig-settings-manager
[13:32] <veilig_abt> I'm trying to get 3 monitors working on 3 cards, I can see my computer boot off my main ATI card's dual monitors, but then X only shows 1 of my monitors on my ATI and the nVidia card.  does my xorg.conf look suspect or could there be another reason? http://pastie.org/1674294
[13:32] <jblz> hello.  i was wondering if any kind ubuntu used could post the results of "echo $PYTHONPATH" in lucid for me :)
[13:32] <veilig_abt> errrr 3 monitors on 2 cards!!
[13:32] <jblz> i don't have lucid installed, so i'm kind of stuck :)
[13:32] <barf> Is there a way to tell apt-get to use 10.0.0.5 as default gw while all other apps use 10.0.0.3 as default gw?
[13:32] <ircuser> soreau: thanks a lot..
[13:32] <soreau> veilig_abt: You are trying to get three screens working with two on radeon and one on nvidia?
[13:32] <barf> Is there a way to tell apt to use 10.0.0.5 as default gw while all other apps use 10.0.0.3 as default gw?
[13:32] <berefeira> miredo, whos using it?
[13:32] <jatt> downloading the ati driver
[13:33] <veilig_abt> soreau: yes
[13:33] <coz_> gardar,  you got me on that one... there are probably many hits on google for t his  especially if you specify which led you want to light up for example  wifi,,,   http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Wireless_LED_on_Ubuntu
[13:33] <jatt> does anybody have experience with it?
[13:33] <jatt> AMD Catalyst™ Display Driver
[13:33] <soreau> veilig_abt: I doubt that is going to work.
[13:33] <soreau> veilig_abt: At best, you wont have acceleration
[13:33] <jblz> jatt, i've used it
[13:33] <soreau> ! anyone| jatt
[13:33] <gartral> coz_: unlikely, my laptop has leds on keys, in places you would never expect
[13:34] <linux_user> hi, I've seen a great thing in knoppix, which is having the application menu in the nautilus in the sidebar (mac alike) I wonder can I do that in ubuntu ? and how
[13:34] <veilig_abt> soreau: shoot.  will it not work in general w/ two different types of cards?  if I switched to two on the nvida card and 1 on the ati would that change anything?
[13:34] <gartral> coz_: like a "mute" button that's replaced F7, it has a light.
[13:34] <coz_> gardar,  ah ,,, mmm then I am at a loss with th at... seems you may have to do personal searching on that or hopefully someone has had some experience with it,,, you could try ##linux channel   .. maybe someone there has had to deal with this :)
[13:35] <gartral> coz_: gardar is getting mad..
[13:35] <coz_> gardar,  sorry guy ,, bad tab habits
[13:35] <coz_> gartral,  of course that was for you :-)
[13:35] <gartral> ;_;
[13:35] <gartral> lol
[13:36] <gartral> coz_: btw my hardware is a CR-48
[13:36] <Grexeo> is grub needed on a system with only one OS?
[13:36] <coz_> gartral,   yeah check in ##linux   maybe they have some clue... there used to be a hardware channel but I dont think it is around  ,,
[13:36] <linux_user> hello..
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:37] <Pici> coz_: ##hardware
[13:37] <jblz> would a kind lucid user please post the output of "echo $PYTHONPATH" for me?
[13:37] <keyzs> anybody can give a help installing alfa awus036h,alfa awus036nh and alfa awus051nh on ubuntu 10.10
[13:37] <coz_> Pici,  ah ok cool
[13:37] <keyzs> Grexeo: NO
[13:37] <jrib> jblz: likely empty
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> jblz: mine outputs nothing here
[13:38] <jblz> linux_user, i'm sure it's possible.  perhaps ask in knoppix how they did it, or look around for the config files they used?
[13:38] <secretary_linux> when I try to chroot my root filesystem from liveusb, I get the error messsage "chroot: can't execute '/bin/sh': Exec format error" -- both when using the semi-GUI chroot option and typing it in manually. what gives?
[13:38] <linux_user> jblz, its empty
[13:38] <jblz> jrib, ActionParsnip thank you
[13:38] <jblz> linux_user, thank you
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> keyzs: are they wireless adapters?
[13:38] <keyzs> yes
[13:39] <llutz> secretary_linux: sudo chroot /bin/bash
[13:39] <jblz> hmmm, lucid must have it's custom search-path built into python
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> keyzs: then have them connected and run:  sudo lshw -C network   you will see the chips they use and can find guides based on that
[13:39] <Grexeo> keyzs, thanks - just to clarify, I am reinstalling Ubuntu on a new drive, but still have my old drive connected, which set up has detected. I am now being asked: "Install the GRUB bootloader to the Master Boot Record (MBR)?", but I will be disconnecting the old drive after installation. Should I choose "no"?
[13:39] <secretary_linux> llutz: same error except with bash instead of sh
[13:39] <linux_user> jblz, thank you too
[13:39] <llutz> secretary_linux: mix 32/64 bit?
[13:40] <gartral> Grexeo: no, you should choose yes
[13:40] <jblz> okay, could some kind lucid user run: "python -c 'import sys; print "\n".join(sys.path)'" from the terminal, and post the output to a pastebin?
[13:40] <llutz> secretary_linux: 32bit live cd to chroot into 64bit-installation or vice versa?
[13:40] <secretary_linux> llutz: that might be the problem. thanks
[13:40] <secretary_linux> looks like the liveusb reports i686 so you are correct. thanks a bunch...
[13:40] <jblz> that won't attack your system, it just prints the working path of a vivified python environment
[13:40] <Grexeo> gartral, will I need to remove the GRUB entry for my old drive once I have disconnected it?
[13:41] <romantic_rectum> I've got some problems with network manager applet. Previously I was using cli to connect, but, now I installed glorious gnome-core! Missing network manager on panel.  Notification area in it's place. Once it shown itself for a secound but was inactive. Strange. How to fix it?
[13:41] <jblz> that's the last favor, i promise :)
[13:41] <gartral> Grexeo: now that im not too sure, you may have too setup the ordering so that the first drive chainloads the second..
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> keyzs: if they are usb based then: lsusb   will help ID them too. The make and model is not very useful to u
[13:41] <Wise_> I have a harddrive with an ubuntu install on it, I can mount the harddrive via usb docking station to my windows computer, I want to create a disk image of the linux hdd... any idea what software would be appropriate for this?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Wise_: I'd boot to a liveCD and use partimage
[13:42] <keyzs> ActionParsnip: i´m gonna check it, my ubuntu vm is rebooting
[13:42] <gartral> Wise_: yea, make a live USB disk, or use a vm, and make the image with dd
[13:42] <coz_>   guys I have to break here,,, be back in a bit
[13:43] <linux_user> btw, where can I find the config file for nautilus ?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> keyzs: then you will ALSO need to configure usb access in whatever virtualization technology you have used
[13:44] <keyzs> ActionParsnip: i know, action wich one of those is more compatible ? besides 36h
[13:45] <fairuz> Hi, can we overwrite a function defined in another file? I mean rewrite a function that has a similar name
[13:45] <keyzs> Wise_ you can use dd too
[13:45] <Grav> Hi how can I autostart root process?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> keyzs: we have no way of knowing until you find out the chip
[13:45] <bullgard> '~$ pgrep gnome-keyring-daemon' does not produce any output. Why does the output of '~$ pgrep gnome' and '~$ pgrep keyring' include the proper PID but '~$ pgrep daemon' not?
[13:45] <keyzs> ok
[13:45] <jblz> Wise_, i love clonezilla for that kind of thing
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Grav: add it in /etc/rc.local   above the exit 0 line
[13:46] <acicula> fairuz: typically yes, its called overloading or redefining
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> keyzs: what is printe don the plastic case doesn't change what is insside
[13:46] <fairuz> acicula: it's possible in plain C?
[13:46] <jblz> Wise_, it's it's own "distro", a bootable cd that can backup a partition or HD - i use it a lot
[13:46] <acicula> Grav: the boot process starts daemons as root unless you specify otherwise
[13:47] <Grav> ActionParsnip:  Ok i added there. Thanks
[13:47] <jblz> Wise_, if you use it, make sure you use the "image" based option (you'll know what i'm talking about if you boot it)
[13:47] <jblz> okay, could some kind lucid user run: "python -c 'import sys; print "\n".join(sys.path)'" from the terminal, and post the output to a pastebin?
[13:48] <wn1zid> I have 2 say, ubuntu has done it again, this is my tiny eeepc with a full blown 10.10 with compiz, Thanks Ubuntu Great job. http://imagebin.org/142859
[13:48] <Wise_> jblz; ah sounds good, so it'll let me access the fat/ntfs partitions on my win computer without problem then I guess?
[13:48] <acicula> fairuz: C doesnt do function overloading because it doesnt do inheritence
[13:48] <jblz> yes
[13:48] <jblz> Wise_, you chose a partition to store to, then the target partition to back up
[13:48] <fairuz> acicula: so there is no way then. =)
[13:49] <jblz> Wise_, it can store/copy just about any filesystem imaginable
[13:49] <ruan> is it possible to connect to my computer with my phone(nokia smartphone) and access a console?
[13:49] <wn1zid> ok, have a great day folks. time to go 2 work.
[13:49] <jblz> ruan- you need to run a ssh server on the box you want to connect to
[13:50] <Wise_> jblz; so disk images are made per-partition? you can't sort of get an image of an entire hdd with all different partitions et.c.?
[13:50] <llutz> ruan: use a ssh-client on the phone
[13:50] <jblz> ruan, assuming you have a ssh terminal on the phone
[13:50] <ruan> hmm
[13:50] <ruan> where can i get a ssh terminal for my phone then?
[13:50] <jblz> Wise_, you can choose either
[13:50] <llutz> ruan: http://www.xk72.com/midpssh/
[13:50] <robert72adam> hi
[13:50] <jblz> Wise_, full disk or particular partitions
[13:51] <ruan> hehe ok
[13:51] <ruan> looks like it'll work
[13:51] <llutz> ruan: works for me
[13:52] <antonio_> Hi
[13:52] <ruan> first i need to get that phone's internet working :/
[13:52] <jblz> i really don't want to install lucid just to get the sys.path... i've been helpful to others... could someone run: "python -c 'import sys; print "\n".join(sys.path)'" from the terminal, and post the output to a pastebin?
[13:53] <jblz> hmm, maybe i can find an old cd somewhere
[13:53] <vidva> hi, I've problems with grub, I would like to install lilo as an alternative, but it has problems with the uuid in fstab. is lilo safe to use and easy to set up?
[13:53] <antonio_> on my 64 bit 10.10 I have a really slow connection to some hosts caused by tcp window scale(which does not scale at all). My coworker does not experience the same issue running ubuntu 10.10 32bit
[13:54] <antonio_> Do anybody noticed the same behaviour?
[13:54] <ruan> jblz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/580576/
[13:54] <ruan> jblz: is my output
[13:55] <ruan> jblz: im not on lucid though
[13:56] <Johnny> johnny
[13:56] <acicula> vidva: eh no its not
[13:57] <acicula> antonio_: does the connection actually slow to a crawl?
[13:57] <bullgard> '~$ pgrep gnome-keyring-daemon' does not produce any output. Why does the output of '~$ pgrep gnome' and '~$ pgrep keyring' include the proper PID but '~$ pgrep daemon' not?
[13:57] <jblz> ruan, thank you.  i'll see if i can use that
[13:57] <acicula> antonio_: or even stop completely?
[13:57] <codebeaker> hey, I wondered if there was any known reason that there's no documentation for getting solr running from the packages from apt
[13:57] <codebeaker> … every single bit of documentation online talks about building from source
[13:58] <antonio_> acicula: just slowing down, using a very small window
[13:58] <acicula> antonio_: sysctl -w "net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=0 turns it off
[13:58] <jblz> rats, i can tell that's not the same as lucid
[13:58] <ruan> how do i start the openssh-server? running it in terminal returns unknown command
[13:58] <antonio_> acicula: yes disabling window scaling solves
[13:58] <ubuntuer> hello
[13:58] <antonio_> acicula: but why is working fine
[13:58] <antonio_> acicula: on a 32 bit version
[13:58] <antonio_> ??
[13:59] <jblz> ruan, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[13:59] <acicula> antonio_: dont know
[13:59] <ruan> 6.06? lol
[13:59] <ruan> ok i'll try it
[14:00] <milamber> ruan: sudo service ssh start
[14:00] <jblz> the sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart shoudl be the same
[14:00] <jblz> i'll shut up now
[14:01] <ruan> do i _have_ to configure it?
[14:01] <antonio_> acicula: from 64bit network dump I see a too high value for tcp window size, maybe a bug? I can reproduce the issue
[14:01] <acicula> codebeaker: maybe because it sees little use, or because configuration is similar wether you install from source or apt?
[14:03] <codebeaker> acicula: regardless, it's difficult to get started for someone who never did it befoer… none of the ubuntu paths patch anything like the source installs
[14:03] <acicula> codebeaker: yeah packaging ussually breaks up the package in /etc /var and /usr sections
[14:03] <ruan> ok it works.. sshed to myself
[14:03] <codebeaker> acicula: roger that - but I'm missing a big piece of how to tell jetty about solr… which is odd, since I installed solr-jetty
[14:04] <acicula> codebeaker: not all software that is packaged comes with extensive documentation, if you use a niche application theres a lot of researching involved
[14:04] <codebeaker> sure…
[14:04] <ubuntuer> Anyone having problems with flash in Firefox?
[14:04] <codebeaker> thanks anyway, back to the man pages
[14:04] <ruan> ubuntuer: flash works for me
[14:05] <ubuntuer> ruan: it works for me too but badly
[14:05] <acicula> antonio_: its a known issue with routers according to google
[14:05] <ruan> ubuntuer: have you tried reinstalling it?
[14:05] <ubuntuer> yes
[14:06] <ubuntuer> ruan: it's consuming a lot of CPU
[14:06] <jatt> damn ati proprietary driver sucks!
[14:06] <ubuntuer> in Google chrome works just fine
[14:06] <raven> gpodder what is this? http://picpaste.com/9e4769c8566bdabb50d2c18d5f7f46aa.png
[14:06] <ruan> ubuntuer: looks like a firefox plugin issue
[14:06] <Shmopsan> i have ati card and it works great so far
[14:07] <ubuntuer> it depends of the ati model
[14:07] <mamat> hi, what program is dealing with autodetecting/mounting filesystems by default? fuse? i'm trying to have "documents" partition be automounted using fstab but it's conflicting with the automount thing
[14:07] <gfs> how to change the login window on ubuntu 10.10?I tried 'system'-->'administration'-->'login screen'...But could not change.
[14:07] <Shmopsan> mamat i think its HAL
[14:08] <ubuntuer> gfs: the editing of login window is very limited in latest ubuntu releases.. you can change the wallpaper and window theme and coloer
[14:08] <ubuntuer> color
[14:08] <v_v> !hal
[14:08] <acicula> jatt: are you using the one installed via hardware drivers?
[14:08] <v_v> !automount
[14:09] <gfs> i'll try it . thank
[14:09] <jatt> nope I downloaded it from the ati/amd site (ati-driver-installer-10-4-x86.x86_64.run)
[14:09] <ce_cr_om2> h
[14:09] <jatt> here the radeon driver is much smoother and faster
[14:09] <ubuntuer> ruan: I am going to try Flash-Aid plugin
[14:09] <erez> hello, I'm still completely at a loss wrt the delete key issue
[14:09] <jatt> I guess open source beats closed source again
[14:09] <wathek> hi all
[14:09] <jatt> years ago the proprietary drivers (at least for nvidia) were much better than the open source ones
[14:10] <erez> (accidentally bind the delete key to a different shortcut, when I disabled the shortcut, the delete key still doesn't work, no idea how to bind it to delete)
[14:10] <Shmopsan> even at 3d?
[14:10] <acicula> jatt: well the binary drivers bench much higher then the open source versions
[14:10] <antonio_> acicula: already googled, I have no router, I experience the same problem when connecting from different network
[14:10] <acicula> jatt: if you are having stability problems try the packaged binary ati drivers?
[14:10] <acicula> antonio_: are you connecting to the same host every time?
[14:10] <antonio_> yes
[14:10] <mamat> is it possible to tell hal to automount /media/documents/user when user is logged in?
[14:11] <antonio_> acicula: yes...
[14:11] <acicula> antonio_: try connecting to a node on another network
[14:11] <jatt> acicula: you mean the ones in the repositories?
[14:11] <acicula> jatt: correct
[14:11] <antonio_>  acicula: works fine
[14:11] <jatt> acicula: in the ubuntu repositories
[14:11] <jatt> ok will give it a try
[14:11] <v_v> !gvfs
[14:11] <acicula> jatt: yes, just using the .run files from the ati site may give you problems, even if you install properly by making deb files from the .run files
[14:12] <antonio_> acicula: no problems connecting to other hosts or connecting to that same host using a 32bit version
[14:12] <jatt> yes, those run files are a nightmare, it was a nightmare to uninstall too
[14:12] <jatt> I was lucky and could get my xorg back :)
[14:12] <acicula> jatt: the .run has a cool toggle that lets you make deb files straight from the .run file
[14:13] <beer_brouwer> can anyone tell me how to establish a NTML connection to an exchange server in order to get calendar entries with SOAP and PHP?
[14:13] <n2i> Hello!
[14:13] <timmybobcat14> I seem to have a mounting problem that stops me opening ubuntu-when I reach the splash screen I get this message:"The disk drive for /home is not ready yet or not present.
[14:13] <timmybobcat14> Continue to wait; or press S to skip or M for manual recovery"
[14:13] <raven> gpodder what is this? http://picpaste.com/9e4769c8566bdabb50d2c18d5f7f46aa.png
[14:14] <acicula> antonio_: means it can also be caused by a router that is closer to the computer you are connecting to
[14:14] <timmybobcat14> If I press S I can log in but then I get these error messages:"Could not update ICE Authority file /home/myname/.ICEauthority"
[14:14] <timmybobcat14> There is a problem with the configuration service (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfpsanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[14:14] <Pumpkin-> window scaling generally only happens at the end hosts, unless some device, usually a "security" device, in the way decides to mess with things.
[14:14] <n2i> When I startx and get an error about xkbcomp. This is pic show error messenger http://www.imagesk.com/?i=S46QVT7G.png
[14:15] <Pumpkin-> antonio_: this isn't strange window scaling behaviour with google by any chance is it ?
[14:15] <antonio_>  acicula: why using a 32 bit client should make the problem disapear?
[14:15] <n2i> what is xkbcomp, and what is that error?
[14:15] <acicula> antonio_: dunno
[14:16] <acicula> timmybobcat14: did you change your login password?
[14:17] <n2i> anyone can help me? Please!
[14:17] <timmybobcat14> ackcj.a
[14:17] <timmybobcat14> ack
[14:17] <Odigem> ku
[14:17] <timmybobcat14> acicula-I don't think so-would n't know how to
[14:17] <Odigem> ку
[14:17] <Odigem> превед
[14:18] <antonio_> acicula: changing client solve the problem, switch off scaling solve the problem. this make me believe is a client side issue, not on router
[14:18] <bullgard> '~$ pgrep gnome-keyring-daemon' does not produce any output. Why does the output of '~$ pgrep gnome' and '~$ pgrep keyring' include the proper PID but '~$ pgrep daemon' not?
[14:19] <timmybobcat14> acicula - I'm guessing that when I manually installed the program I didn't partition it properly or something. But it looks like a a minor problem to solve -to me????????????????????????
[14:20] <timmybobcat14> acicula - just changing the instructions in the boot up file or something???????????????????????????
[14:20] <antonio_> Pumpkin-: yes I initially suspected that the issue was caused by a security device on the network manipulating the packet but why does not affect 32 bit clients?
[14:20] <j0X3r> n2i as it says that the error is not fatal to X you can ignore it
[14:21] <bullgard> timmybobcat14: 20 question marks in a row are 19 too much.
[14:21] <timmybobcat14> bullgard-I see ok only 2 max in future then ha ha ha
[14:21] <sami> hi
[14:22] <bullgard> Ty
[14:22] <timmybobcat14> I seem to have a mounting problem that stops me opening ubuntu-when I reach the splash screen I get this message:"The disk drive for /home is not ready yet or not present.
[14:22] <bxl4074> Hi, I am new
[14:22] <keyzs> ActionParsnip: when i do a lshw - C nothing show up, is it because im in a vm?
[14:23] <timmybobcat14> Continue to wait; or press S to skip or M for manual recovery"
[14:23] <Guest96417> maybe
[14:23] <bullgard> timmybobcat14: Analyze your /etc/fstab
[14:24] <timmybobcat14> bullgard - ok analyze for what? I am in failsafe mode atm can I analyse it form here ? What should I be looking for?
[14:24] <silvery> => Grub 2 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive in partition #1 for (,msdos1)/grub.
[14:24] <nsahoo> hi all
[14:25] <snookerboy> ;-)
[14:25] <bullgard> timmybobcat14: I do not know "failsafe mode". --  You should look for the mounting options in /etc/fstab and if they suit you.
[14:25] <bullgard> timmybobcat14: I do not know "failsafe mode". --  You should look for the mounting options in /etc/fstab and check if they suit you.
[14:26] <secretary_linux> so earlier I couldn't chroot into my root fs because I was on a 32 bit install image. I switched to the proper 64 bit but now I'm getting a message that /bin/sh cannot be found. yet, there is a /bin/sh in the install environment and a /target/bin/sh -- i'm trying the command "chroot /target /bin/sh" -- what am i doing wrong?
[14:26] <timmybobcat14> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[14:26] <timmybobcat14> #
[14:26] <timmybobcat14> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[14:26] <timmybobcat14> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
[14:26] <timmybobcat14> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[14:26] <FloodBot2> timmybobcat14: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:26] <timmybobcat14> #
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> !chroot | secretary_linux
[14:26] <nsahoo> one of the ubuntu installations lost network connection over the weekend. It is connected by ethernet to the lan, but, can't ping to any place even if I provide the direct IP
[14:27] <elFidel> nsahoo: start with ipconfig
[14:27] <secretary_linux> ActionParsnip: thanks, though it seems the ubuntu install image has already mounted proc, sys, dev etc. the guide you sent seems more inclined toward users with working installations already...
[14:27] <rlankfo> /sdlkfjsdlkfjsdfklj/win 36
[14:28] <compdoc> nics sometimes die
[14:28] <timmybobcat14> bullguard - I mean I am in recovery mode screen at the moment
[14:28] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, first open up a command prompt and type in:    ping 127.0.0.1         or      ping localhost
[14:29] <nsahoo> elFidel: you mean ifconfig? the line for inet addr is missing for eth0
[14:29] <timmybobcat14> bullgard  have opened the stab file but I don't know what I should be looking for?
[14:29] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: localhost ping succeeds
[14:29] <Curly_Q> Also type in    ifconfig -a
[14:29] <bullgard> timmybobcat14: I do not know "failsafe mode". --  You should look for the mounting options in /etc/fstab and if they suit you.
[14:29] <elFidel> nsahoo: any hw-changes in the past? maybe its just a udev issue
[14:30] <nsahoo> elFidel: no, I was away for 4 days. I could connect remotely for a day after that it went down
[14:30] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, pinging localhost means that your NIC card is working.
[14:30] <Curly_Q> Next check the RJ45 cables.
[14:30] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: /etc/resolv.conf is empty
[14:30] <Curly_Q> Push in all the cables.
[14:31] <elFidel> nsahoo: consider checking /etc/udev/rules.d/x....persistant-net.rules just to make sure
[14:31] <timmybobcat14> ok next problem: can anyone help me decipher the /etc/fstab file?
[14:31] <C3D> noob in need of help. im trying to  change how much swap is used , i use this "sudo sysctl -a|grep swappiness" and get errors of "error: "Invalid argument" reading key "fs.binfmt_misc.register"
[14:31] <C3D> vm.swappiness = 0
[14:31] <C3D> error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv4.route.flush'
[14:31] <C3D> error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv6.route.flush'
[14:31] <C3D> " can someone tell me what this means and how to fix it
[14:31] <FloodBot2> C3D: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:31] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, you need to backtrack what you did to get to this situation if you changed any configurations then. I was thinking from a Hardware Layer 1 viewpoint.
[14:31] <mha> how do I disable ubuntu's default behavior to disallow me to tab filenames to any command given? for instance, ls /et<tab> completes /etc/, sysctl -p /et<tab> does not.
[14:31] <mha> very annoying behavior.
[14:32] <mha> I removed bash-completion
[14:32] <kikz> hello channel. hows every1 doing today ?
[14:32] <Curly_Q> Good Kikz, what's up?
[14:32] <Dr_Willis_TCL> mha,  the bash completion stuff has  entries for specific commands.. ive never noticed that behaivor.
[14:32] <timmybobcat14> If I paste my /etc/fstab file onto the http paste ubuntu com site can anyone help me see where my log in boot in problem is?
[14:33] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: I was away. I could connect for one day and it was gone after that. I didn't change anything. No one has access to this machine
[14:33] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: try typing sysctl -p /et<tab>
[14:33] <Curly_Q> Greets to Dr Willis.  :)
[14:33] <kikz> not too bad curly.. whats every1 talkign about
[14:33] <llutz> Curly_Q: how would you see a working nic with "ping localhost"? lo(opback device is part of the ip-stack and has nothing to do with a physical NIC)
[14:33] <Dr_Willis_TCL> mha,  im not on ubuntu right now.
[14:33] <elFidel> nsahoo: is that a dualboot box?
[14:33] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: aha. it'll just stand there and look stupid. :]
[14:33] <Dr_Willis_TCL> mha,  given how good the bash completion is in ubuntu. File a bug report. they may fix that.
[14:33] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: anyhow. noticed that it was some /etc/bash_completion* stuff left behind. A kind rm -rf fixed the problem.
[14:33] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, where are you from? It maybe because of the Japan Earthquake. Lots of networks are down right now.
[14:33] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: I rather just get rid of the problem. :)
[14:34] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: no. I am in Pennsylvania.
[14:34] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: in a university
[14:34] <Curly_Q> LLutz, if you can ping the localhost the NIC card is working.
[14:34] <Curly_Q> It is the first step in troubleshooting.
[14:34] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: I actually hate it. if I have a mounted partition on /mnt/something, and only /mnt/else is in /etc/fstab, the tab completion will autocomplete /mnt/something on umount /mn<tab>
[14:34] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: other machines are working.
[14:34] <Dr_Willis_TCL> mha,  thers proberly some key combo for bash that makes it do what you wanted. Ive not read the bash completion guides/docs in a long time. but i recall there being ways to do that.
[14:34] <llutz> Curly_Q: ping localhost even works without any nic
[14:35] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: sorry. /mnt/else will be completed course.
[14:35] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, go to the literal machine and see if it is turned on or unplugged.
[14:35] <Dr_Willis_TCL> mha,  cant say ive ever noticed  the issue.
[14:35] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: try it too...
[14:35] <mha> :D
[14:35] <Dr_Willis_TCL> file another bug.
[14:35] <mha> rm -R problem.
[14:35] <mha> :)
[14:35] <bullgard> timmybobcat14: Read 'man mount'.
[14:35] <kikz> does any 1 knows if theres a local channel for chicago ?
[14:35] <Dr_Willis_TCL> and as i said. theres probelry some combo-tab that makes it go the  other way.
[14:35] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: I am in front of the machine. checking different configurations now. Perhaps I should put the live CD in and see if that works
[14:36] <Curly_Q> llutz, that was the first step I mentioned and the second was ifconfig -a   to see if the NIC address was available.
[14:36] <Dr_Willis_TCL> I dont even have a browser handy to lookup 'bash completion guide' :)
[14:36] <C3D> sometimes this place is just way too busy
[14:36] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: hehe
[14:36] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: where would be the log files if there are any
[14:36] <Dr_Willis_TCL> zBBL off to the store.
[14:37] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Using tiny core linux to copy some files from one usb to another.. Ive noticed SLOW usb speeds on this one hard drive.. but an identical hd was faster..  in tiny core linux.. it was slow.. but now its sped up.. not sure whats going on with this thing.. :)
[14:37] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: I got tired of bug filing for stuff that's apparently not adequately tested. which does not consider needs. if I can just work around it. and especially if I see no other benefit of the "feature"
[14:37] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo is the computer you are referring to the one you are on right now?
[14:37] <mha> Dr_Willis_TCL: I am sure that plenty however find it awesome :)
[14:37] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: not chatting from it, but, it is infront of me now
[14:37] <ruan> if i ssh to 127.0.0.1 it connects, but if i ssh to my real IP address it says connection refused, why?
[14:37] <Curly_Q> OK.
[14:38] <Curly_Q> Can you ping   www.cnn.com  ?   What do you get?
[14:38] <ruan> i've tried my hostname IP and my IP from whatsmyip.org
[14:38] <llutz> ruan: netstat -tulpen|grep 22
[14:38] <ruan> what should i look for, llutz ?
[14:39] <llutz> ruan: something like  ".... 0 0.0.0.0:22...."
[14:39] <Curly_Q> Instead ping anthony.freenode.net
[14:39] <ruan> i see that
[14:39] <bullgard> kikz: /join #ubuntu-us-oh
[14:39] <ruan> i'll pastebin it
[14:39] <llutz> ruan: ah you try to ssh <ip> from the local machine? needs nat-loopback being enabled
[14:40] <timmybobcat14> I seem to have a mounting problem that stops me opening ubuntu-when I reach the splash screen I get this message:"The disk drive for /home is not ready yet or not present.
[14:40] <ruan> http://pastebin.com/jFg8nFMw
[14:40] <ruan> nat-loopback?
[14:41] <llutz> ruan: you are using a router?
[14:41] <ruan> yes
[14:41] <timmybobcat14> Continue to wait; or press S to skip or M for manual recovery"
[14:41] <llutz> ruan: the router should have an option to enable nat-loopback. thats needed to access your WAN-ip from LAN
[14:41] <mynameisdeleted> is rtorrent the fastest bittorrent client?
[14:41] <ruan> !best | mynameisdeleted
[14:41] <mynameisdeleted> as its based on c and has least overhead and memory use?
[14:42] <ruan> llutz: im unable to access my router :/ my isp locked it
[14:42] <mynameisdeleted> vuze is horrible for mem use
[14:42] <llutz> ruan: change isp
[14:42] <ruan> llutz: there is no other
[14:42] <mynameisdeleted> rtorrent will be as fast as any other?
[14:42] <mynameisdeleted> on a high end system(12 core 3-4 ghz)
[14:42] <mynameisdeleted> with 12GB ram
[14:42] <mynameisdeleted> or more
[14:43] <timmybobcat14> If I press S I can log in but then I get these two error messages and that is as far as I can go. I then have to reboot: the messages are:"Could not update ICE Authority file /home/myname/.ICEauthority"
[14:43] <timmybobcat14> There is a problem with the configuration service (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfpsanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[14:43] <mynameisdeleted> other spec is gigabit ethernet to desktop that has speed-tested at 480mbps
[14:43] <llutz> ruan: but to access your local pc from WAN you also need access to the router, for setting up portforwarding
[14:44] <secretary_linux> so chroot from usb install stick is still saying there is no /bin/sh, despite that there is a /bin/sh present from the running install image, as well as a /target/bin/sh - how can I troubleshoot this?
[14:44] <mynameisdeleted> I'll benchmark against vuze for a linux downlaod
[14:44] <mynameisdeleted> shoudl maybe get 10MB/s instead of just over 4
[14:44] <timmybobcat14> I have pasted my /etc/fstab file here:http://paste.ubuntu.com/580587/
[14:44] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, before you change any files or configurations always first check the hardware to see if the cables were tampered with. Perhaps a circuit breaker or something. Never rule out the obvious.
[14:44] <mynameisdeleted> torrent is also limited by drive speed so dling to solid state or raid may speed it up too
[14:44] <Luis_> hello, I was hoping somebody would be able to help me with an issue i'm having, i've got a database (contacts list) which i've built up in evolution i now need to share it with other people in the company, how do i go about doing that? webDAV, LDAP server? which is easyest?
[14:45] <mynameisdeleted> I'm not sure if ti does for sure on a system wiht 10+GB ram
[14:46] <dogarrhea> hrm
[14:46] <dogarrhea> i can't seem to find any documentation on how to program Ubuntu.
[14:46] <dogarrhea> for windows, there's tons of documentation on the windows api
[14:46] <dogarrhea> not so much for the "ubuntu api"
[14:47] <dogarrhea> i'm not so sure Posix is what i want.
[14:47] <elFidel> dogarrhea: could you define what you mean by "how to program ubuntu"?
[14:47] <ruan> dogarrhea: what do you want to program exactly?
[14:47] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, when I teach A+ classes, I deliberately use crossover cables to make the students think and learn to always check hardware first.
[14:47] <Luis_> try maybe linux/debian api?
[14:47] <mynameisdeleted> seems to be a lot less cpu
[14:47] <secretary_linux> Curly_Q: very nice trick :)
[14:47] <dogarrhea> I want to program the mouse
[14:47] <Curly_Q> :)
[14:47] <ruan> dogarrhea: there is a lot of documentation for ubuntu
[14:47] <dogarrhea> and scrape the screen
[14:47] <jatt> there is no ubuntu api to program the mouse
[14:48] <dogarrhea> then what is there?
[14:48] <timmybobcat14> When I reach the splash screen I get this message:
[14:48] <timmybobcat14> "The disk drive for /home is not ready yet or not present.
[14:48] <timmybobcat14> Continue to wait; or press S to skip or M for manual recovery"
[14:48] <timmybobcat14> If I chose to press S I can log in but then I get theses 2 messages and have to reboot:
[14:48] <timmybobcat14> "Could not update ICE Authority file /home/myname/.ICEauthority"
[14:48] <FloodBot2> timmybobcat14: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:48] <timmybobcat14> There is a problem with the configuration service (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfpsanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[14:48] <mynameisdeleted> and faster download speed
[14:48] <nsahoo> Curly_Q: :) I pushed the cables in. let me check if the router is at fault
[14:48] <mynameisdeleted> not much less cpu now though at 8.3MB/s
[14:48] <mynameisdeleted> but tahts about double the download speeed of vuze
[14:48] <mynameisdeleted> now 9.1MB/s
[14:48] <llutz> timmybobcat14: pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please
[14:49] <Curly_Q> Nsahoo, reboot the router too. If the router or MODEM has batteries unplug the batteries for about 20 seconds. Then put them back.
[14:49] <dogarrhea> so i am not allowed to control the mouse programatically?
[14:49] <jatt> yes you are
[14:49] <Luis_> Any ideas on how to have a shared contacts list in evolution, so that other evolution users have access to the same list and can add/delete & edit the contacts?
[14:50] <ruan> is it normal for ping to my own(outside) ip to be average 142 ms?
[14:50] <dogarrhea> seems like every forum response is just so dumb.. "i am not familiar with shell scripting but i think you can do this with shell scripting in bash" <-- THIS DOES NOT CONTROL THE MOUSE
[14:50] <dogarrhea> original question is how to create mouse clicks and mouse moves..
[14:50] <mynameisdeleted> is there a multithreaded rtorrent maybe that can utilize more than 1 core that might run faster if I have solid state and 10+GB ram?
[14:50] <jatt> read a book about how to write linux kernel drivers
[14:50] <maco> dogarrhea: i suspect "mouse macros" may be the search terms you'd want
[14:50] <lesshaste> which package has the radeon driver?
[14:50] <jatt> there is one freely available
[14:50] <Curly_Q> Ruan, try  http://www.dslreports.com        They have a test page to see the speed of your connection.
[14:50] <maco> jatt: a driver does not need to be written to make a macro
[14:51] <ruan> Curly_Q: i mean a ping to myself
[14:51] <dogarrhea> maco, i also need to scrape the screen
[14:51] <jatt> what?
[14:51] <Curly_Q> Sure you can ping your own ip address. Also a tracert.
[14:51] <dogarrhea> aka, take screenshots and read pixels
[14:51] <ruan> Curly_Q: i know the speed of my connection, im wondering why pings take so long
[14:51] <j0X3r> mynameisdeleted why should it?? you're downloading....
[14:51] <secretary_linux> I am really going up a wall trying to chroot my broken system from installer pendrive. I thought maybe the problem was that the installer didn't set up a /dev/pts for the chroot but that didn't solve it -- still getting /bin/sh not found (or the same with other shells which also exist). I know I don't have anything new so I'm really hoping someone can give me something to try so I can get some leads here :/
[14:51] <maco> dogarrhea: read pixels? not just hook into the at-spi api that lets screenreaders for the blind work?
[14:51] <dogarrhea> and it's not really a macro driven program its an artificial intelligence program
[14:52] <dajhorn> mynameisdeleted: Run a second instance of the torrent daemon.  This will be quicker and easier than changing process threading.
[14:52] <jatt> troll alert
[14:52] <Curly_Q> Ruan post it on pastebin the results.
[14:52] <ruan> Curly_Q: ok
[14:52] <jatt>  /ignore dogarrhea
[14:52] <maco> jatt: stop being intentionally provocative, please
[14:52] <raven> gpodder what is this? http://picpaste.com/9e4769c8566bdabb50d2c18d5f7f46aa.png
[14:53] <avengre> Used GParted to change a USB drive to ext, tried to change it back to NTFS with +boot  but windows won't recognize it.. is there some other flag / option i'm missing?
[14:53] <ruan> wow, i got packet loss when i pinged myself
[14:53] <maco> dogarrhea: the thing that the mouse and screen drawing are handled by is Xorg. try looking at its API
[14:53] <TobalJackson> can someone help me with a bash script
[14:53] <jatt> hehe
[14:53] <avengre> well, didn't convert perse, deleted old partition, made a new ntfs one
[14:53] <TobalJackson> http://cl1p.net/TobalJackson I have a script typed out here
[14:53] <ruan> this is either not my ip address, or something's definitely wrong
[14:53] <dogarrhea> ok good. now i can get somewhere
[14:53] <Deathsbreed> ok
[14:54] <TobalJackson> and in the Commnents I've put what my problem is, I cant get the variables defined by drive$count to equal the list variable
[14:54] <timmybobcat14> I have a problem when I try to log in: I have pasted the problem in full (not allow to paste it here apparently). Would be most grateful if a ubuntu expert would take look at it:http://paste.ubuntu.com/580600/
[14:55] <timmybobcat14> I have a problem when I try to log in: I have pasted the problem in full (not allow to paste it here apparently). Would be most grateful if a ubuntu expert would take look at it:http://paste.ubuntu.com/580600/
[14:56] <JTS000ID> I am using XrandR and have a need to print out just the names of OUTPUT/INPUT connected e.g. DVI-I-1, DVI-D-1, VGA1, etc.
[14:56] <JTS000ID> I don't want to query everything
[14:56] <JTS000ID> is there a way I could do that
[14:56] <dogarrhea> hrm
[14:56] <dogarrhea> it looks like i'm gogin to have to use assembly to do this inline in c++
[14:56] <dogarrhea> for mouse programming
[14:57] <timmybobcat14> "The disk drive for /home is not ready yet or not present.
[14:57] <timmybobcat14> Continue to wait; or press S to skip or M for manual recovery"
[14:57] <Curly_Q> Ruan are you on a University Network?
[14:57] <l1st`> Live CDs can be read in Windows, right?
[14:57] <serpentologist> is there an easy way to fire up a vpn connection created with th network manager from the console?
[14:57] <skutr34> if i make an ext 4 bigger do i have to make the swap file bigger?
[14:57] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: Reboot this computer and hold the left shift key so that you get the Grub boot menu.  Choose the (recovery) option.  Choose  "root prompt with networking".
[14:57] <lesshaste> how can I enable compositing with the radeon driver?
[14:58] <dogarrhea> and probably magik++ for the screen scraping
[14:58] <llutz> skutr34: no
[14:58] <maco> serpentologist: install the network manager cli client
[14:58] <skutr34> llutz: ok
[14:58] <serpentologist> maco, thanks
[14:59] <skutr34> llutz: i want to shrink my windows partition to give some more space to linux but idk how much i should give
[14:59] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-what happens when I do that?
[14:59] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: That is the recovery console, where you can fix the problem.
[14:59] <lesshaste> oh.. worked it out
[14:59] <lesshaste> great :)
[14:59] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-how do I fix the problem?
[14:59] <el> asdasdasd
[14:59] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: On the broken computer as the root user,  run `umount /home` and then run `fsck -v -f /dev/sdb7`.
[14:59] <alumno__> hola
[15:00] <assasasas> hola
[15:00] <assasasas> jdfhskdjfhsdf
[15:00] <assasasas> sghfghdghfh
[15:00] <FloodBot2> assasasas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <zbk> dfgdfg
[15:00] <zbk> dfg
[15:00] <zbk> dfg
[15:00] <FloodBot2> zbk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <zbk> dfdf
[15:00] <zbk> df
[15:00] <zbk> dg
[15:00] <alumno__> reeey
[15:00] <ruan> what is this...
[15:00] <alumno__> son re giles
[15:00] <alk> o.O
[15:00] <alumno__> son re capos men
[15:00] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-did you look at my 'etc/fstab/ file?
[15:00] <zbk> agarrame el zanguango
[15:00] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: Watch the output of fsck for warnings and errors.  If the filesystem is broken, then it will ask you scary questions.
[15:00] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: Yes.
[15:00] <el> hola
[15:01] <serpentologist> maco, could you tell me the package name?
[15:01] <el> soi el tego
[15:01] <Pici> !es | zbk alumno__
[15:01] <el> aksdjaksdjasdkjasdjkasd
[15:01] <el> asdbjasdbnasdbnasdbasd
[15:01] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-ok thank you I will do what suggested and hope it works.
[15:02] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-"scary questions"?
[15:02] <Curly_Q> Skutr34, I dont' think it is a good idea to shrink Windows partitions. You may lose data in the process. Windows uses the FAT  File Allocation Table to keep track of the disk space and other things.
[15:02] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: After you do the filesystem check, the next step is to `mount /home` and double-check that the $HOME directory exists and that permissions are correct.
[15:02] <secretary_linux> Curly_Q: look at it like this, skutr34 might get lucky and lose windows altogether ;)
[15:02] <l1st`> Linux LiveCDs can be read in Windows as data folders [assuming they're formatted in FAT32 or some other readable fs], right?
[15:02] <Curly_Q> lol
[15:02] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: Questions like "are you really really sure?  you can't go back".
[15:02] <maco> serpentologist: cnetworkmanager
[15:02] <skutr34> Curly_Q: well i know how much is being used
[15:02] <llutz> l1st`: iso9660 or udf it is
[15:02] <beer_brouwer> l1st: jep
[15:03] <ruan> l1st`: if it's a liveusb, yes. cds arent fat32
[15:03] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-I am not an expert-it's beginning to sound like I'm f*cked and will have to reinstall yet again. MS wins again I fear!
[15:03] <skutr34> Curly_Q: my linux partition is only 10gb
[15:03] <dogarrhea> why does the gcc compiler say "this is not fit to be used for anything" when i type gcc --version?
[15:04] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: Linux is more likely to complain about storage if the computer is flakey.  I would backup the Microsoft partitions too.
[15:04] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-but thanks anyyway buddy.
[15:04] <skutr34> wtf you guys
[15:04] <skutr34> like seriously
[15:04] <serpentologist> maco, can't find in 10.04 repo, was it added in the last release?
 Curly_Q: look at it like this, skutr34 might get lucky and lose windows altogether ;)
[15:04] <Curly_Q> Skutr34, the next time you install Linux with Windows make sure you use LOGICAL PARTITIONS. This way you will not overlap one OS with the other.
[15:04] <skutr34> Curly_Q: im not overlapping
[15:05] <Pumpkin-> dogarrhea: does it literally say that, or is it the standard "There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE."
[15:05] <Curly_Q> Doesn't matter. Logical partitions is the right way to do it.
[15:05] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn- if I had important microsoft files on this computer  I would not let ubuntu in a million miles of it! ha ha ha ha. I
[15:05] <dogarrhea> pumpkin- same difference.
[15:05] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14:   +1   you trolled me.
[15:05] <llutz> partition type doesn't matter at all
[15:06] <skutr34> Curly_Q: i have a 220gb windows partition and only 104gb is being used
[15:06] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-I beg your pardon?
[15:06] <Pumpkin-> dogarrhea: almost all free software comes with that. Otherwise you leave yourself open to being sued for giving away software. If you need someone to sue if something goes wrong, go buy a support contract from someone.
[15:06] <maco> serpentologist: apparently
[15:06] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: Saying things like that makes it sound like your question wasn't genuine.
[15:06] <skutr34> Curly_Q: therefore as long as i leave some extra space for windows i should be fine on data
[15:07] <Curly_Q> Skutr34, the size of the HD is not the issue. It is better for you to allocate a certain amount of disk space for Windows and Linux. Therefore, logically partitioning the drive is the best way to take advantage of the disk.
[15:07] <llutz> skutr34: you should defrag your win-filesystem before
[15:07] <dogarrhea> eh. you can be sued for anything.  even if you do include that merchantability clause and your program causes grevious damage intentionally
[15:07] <dajhorn> timmybobcat14: The command names are different, but the basic procedure to save your /home partition are nearly the same as what you would need to do at the Windows recovery prompt.
[15:07] <dogarrhea> and maybe even unintentionally, you're liable
[15:07] <ruan> what's the difference between windows i386 and linux i686?
[15:07] <llutz> Curly_Q: lvm you mean?
[15:08] <joe_9> what does the file extension ".a" represent. Is that a library?
[15:08] <dajhorn> joe_9:  .a is a static library.
[15:08] <lesshaste> ruan: really?
[15:08] <l1st`> ruan: it is a USB drive, yes.  I was looking for a way to have a bootable LiveCD and some other Windows utilities at the same time, and XP apparently doesn't like the idea of partitioning a USB drive
[15:08] <timmybobcat14> dajhorn-ha ha ha. Not at all buddy perfectly genuine problem and perfectly genuine comment. But lets not fall out I'll do what you suggested but I'm not an expert or wouldn't be here. Away I go. Thanks and cheers
[15:08] <lesshaste> ruan: are you asking the difference between windows and linux?
[15:08] <cha0s2358> ActionParsnip, Hey, You helped me out a while ago with my Canon Mp150 all in one printer. You sent me a link to a resolved issue you were involved in. I'm trying to set the same printer up to a different Ubuntu 10.10 machine but I can't find the bookmark to that link. Do you think you can send it to me again?
[15:08] <ruan> lesshaste: no
[15:08] <Curly_Q> llutz, anyway you want to look at it.
[15:08] <joe_9> dajhorn, can a static library be included in a C++ application?
[15:08] <ruan> lesshaste: im asking the difference between i386 and i686
[15:08] <skutr34> omg
[15:08] <llutz> Curly_Q: i just try to make sense in what you say...
[15:08] <dajhorn> joe_9: Yes, usually.
[15:09] <skutr34> so i should just fuck it then, Curly_Q
[15:09] <lesshaste> ruan: 32 versus 64 bit?
[15:09] <skutr34> ?
[15:09] <ruan> lesshaste: no, im on 32 bit and im on i686
[15:09] <maco> ruan: they're different revisions of the x86 architecture
[15:09] <phenom> Any one have any clue on how to troubleshoot a wandering trackpad mouse? I track the mouse to say the left three times,, and it will bounce back a few inches in the opposite direction..
[15:09] <ruan> maco: ah, thanks
[15:09] <maco> ruan: i686 has more instructions available for more optimisation
[15:09] <Pici> skutr34: Mind your language here please.
[15:09] <Curly_Q> llutz, I prefer logical partitioning if the first installation was Windows. LVM if Linux is installed first.
[15:10] <MarconM> who is tenting new release ubuntu 11.04
[15:10] <beer_brouwer> phenom: clean it :D
[15:10] <Pumpkin-> ruan: different revisions of the x86 instruction set. i386 stuff will run on 386's, i686's will run on P2's (I think). i686 has some more optimal instructions, and so stuff will run better in general with it (unless you want to run it on a P1 or 486 or 386, when it won't run at all)
[15:10] <Pici> MarconM: The folks in #ubuntu+1
[15:10] <llutz> Curly_Q: logical partitions (drives inside an extended partition) and LVM are completely different things
[15:10] <cha0s2358> Whats the command to see if a personis active and what chanel they are in?
[15:10] <Tw|sT> Sorry about all of the join/quits.  I was working on a portable IRC client, working out a few kinks before committing it to disk.  All done now.  :)
[15:10] <phenom> scary,, as soon as I mention it,, it started happening more often..
[15:11] <phenom> Damn commies..
[15:11] <dajhorn> cha0s2358:   Start with /whois cha0s2358
[15:11] <cha0s2358> think you
[15:11] <ruan> how do i do a command on connect with irssi?
[15:11] <ruan> eg. when i connect to irc.freenode i want to /msg nickserv identify
[15:11] <skutr34> Curly_Q: i have LVM in fedora.....
[15:11] <soreau> ruan: try #irssi
[15:11] <bhearsum> i keep hitting this weird issue where many open windows somehow move themselves to a different workspace. for example, Thunderbird was in Workspace 2, and Firefox was in Workspace 4, and they switch places. has anyone ever heard of something like this happening? maybe i'm hitting some secret key combo?
[15:12] <Pici> ruan: There are a lot of ways.  Best to ask in #irssi
[15:12] <sebastian> where is the polish irc channel ? :D
[15:12] <llutz> ruan:  autosendcmd = "/msg NICKSERV IDENTIFY ABCDE ; wait 2000";
[15:12] <DJones> !pl | sebastian
[15:12] <_ruben> !pl
[15:12] <Curly_Q> From a Windows perspective logical partitions with Windows is fool proof. Giving up the rest of the disk to Linux works just fine.
[15:12] <ruan> llutz: thanks
[15:13] <lesshaste> sebastian: polish ubuntu channel?
[15:13] <Tw|sT> Curly_Q: Why do you prefer LVM?  (just curious)
[15:13] <skutr34> Curly_Q: i just want to give some space to fedora
[15:13] <lesshaste> sebastian: there probably is one if you aren't joking
[15:13] <Curly_Q> The fact of the matter is that this should all be accounted for before installing both kernels.
[15:13] <Pici> !pl | sebastian
[15:13] <ruan> llutz: where would i set that?
[15:13] <lesshaste> sebastian: #ubuntu-pl
[15:13] <sebastian> ehh. don't matter
[15:13] <sebastian> but thx :D
[15:13] <lesshaste> sebastian: no problem.. 100 people there
[15:13] <llutz> ruan: chatnets { freenode= .... }
[15:13] <secretary_linux> ok I really don't want to sound like a broken record but is there anything at all I can try to get a working chroot into my broken system from usb stick when I try to chroot and get an error that /bin/sh doesn't exist (meanwhile there is /bin/sh and /target/bin/sh) - I really don't want to be repetitive but I'm out of things to try other than wiping everything and reinstalling...
[15:14] <Curly_Q> The best solution is using dual drives dedicated for each OS.
[15:14] <ruan> llutz: where is that?
[15:14] <skutr34> Curly_Q: how would i do that?
[15:14] <llutz> Curly_Q: ~/.irssi/config        if not, create that part
[15:14] <lesshaste> secretary_linux: you need a forum or mailing list if you don't get a good answer on irc
[15:14] <sebastian> dedicated drivers are an alternative
[15:14] <llutz> ruan: ^^ sry
[15:14] <Pici> ruan: You shouldn't be modyifying your irssi config manually. #irssi can tell you the right way to change that setting.
[15:14] <secretary_linux> lesshaste: true, but there's no time for something like that, I'd have to go nuclear first
[15:14] <soreau> ! chroot | secretary_linux
[15:14] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Double-check that the chroot and the LiveCD or LiveUSB are both 32-bit or both-64 bit.
[15:14] <lesshaste> secretary_linux: no time == has to be done in an hour?
[15:14] <Curly_Q> Buy another hard drive.
[15:14] <ruan> ok
[15:14] <secretary_linux> unfortunately the ! chroot guide doesn't help me
[15:14] <secretary_linux> lesshaste: that would be ideal
[15:15] <secretary_linux> lesshaste: system has been down since yesterday
[15:15] <lesshaste> sorry to hear it
[15:15] <darreo> http://pastebin.com/NRKSZx6V
[15:15] <lesshaste> try #linux too
[15:15] <lesshaste> secretary_linux: ^^
[15:15] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: thanks, someone caught me on that earlier :) they are both 64 bit now
[15:15] <darreo> im having a slight problem mounting an old jfs partition on 10.10
[15:15] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Do you know how the chroot target got trashed?    Filesystem problem?  Bad upgrade?
[15:16] <skutr34> Curly_Q: im on a laptop so would it be ok to run one of the os's on an external harddrive?
[15:16] <Tw|sT> For dual booting, the best solution I've found is combine a USB hard drive with a motherboard that supports USB-boot.  I then install Windows into the on-system drive, and install Ubuntu to the USB drive.  This eliminates needing to install Grub to the system.  Instead, install it to the USB drive.  I have 2 different solutions like this, one is running from a 16GB Sandisk Flash drive...
[15:16] <Curly_Q> Skutr34, you can install two hard drives on your laptop. I have done it.
[15:16] <Tw|sT> while the other is installed on the first 40GB of a 120GB USB hard drive (single cable type).
[15:16] <cha0s2358> how do i ping someone?
[15:16] <ironfoot495> Hello I'm looking for a software to control the broadcasting video shows and and advertisment on an ubuntu server . Can someone tell me if there is a program like that for linux use?
[15:16] <Curly_Q> Then it all depends on the Real Estate of your laptop though.
[15:17] <skutr34> Curly_Q: i dont want to open the laptop though.... would an external work?
[15:17] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: yes, rsnapshot left a lot of hard links to all files on the system and when I tried to remove them, rm -r actually followed the links and deleted all the files on the system. I copied stuff from a good backup, but I can't boot because the backup is from before a kernel upgrade last week
[15:17] <beer_brouwer> ch0s: ping <IP>
[15:17] <Curly_Q> You can slave a second hard drive.
[15:17] <Curly_Q> Sure use a USB external.
[15:17] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: and when I say it deleted all files on the system, I mean it tried to until I stopped it after a few miserable seconds
[15:17] <cha0s2358> ActionParsnip,  You here man?
[15:18] <beer_brouwer> cha0s: or ping www.example.com
[15:18] <skutr34> Curly_Q: also would i have to reinstall linux to move it to the external?
[15:18] <Curly_Q> Keep in mind that if you boot up you need to go into the BIOS and set the boot sequence for what you want to boot up first.
[15:18] <cha0s2358> beer_brouwer, thank you
[15:18] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Does this command succeed?   chroot /busted/system /sbin/ldconfig -v
[15:18] <Curly_Q> You can dual boot with a USB installation.
[15:19] <Tw|sT> yup, all day.
[15:19] <Curly_Q> That is if your BIOS is setup for it.
[15:19] <Tw|sT> :)
[15:19] <Tw|sT> right
[15:19] <skutr34> Curly_Q: would i have to reinstall linux to move it to the external drive>
[15:19] <skutr34> ?
[15:19] <Curly_Q> You can Dual boot with a 64 gig memory stick. Put it in your pocket and you have a Linux server and Windows to go.  hehe
[15:19] <llutz> skutr34: its no problem to have linux on the same disk as windows, you should defrag your win-filesystem before you try to shrink your win-partitions and make sure to backup your data
[15:19] <Curly_Q> Skutr34 yes.
[15:20] <skutr34> llutz: well i like the idea of having it on another harddrive hough
[15:20] <Curly_Q> I call it Linux on a stick.  hehe
[15:20] <skutr34> lol
[15:20] <llutz> skutr34: not very handy for a laptop (imho)
[15:20] <Tw|sT> most likely anyways, unless you wanna go about things the hard way.  It's best to reinstall anyway to optimize the system to the new storage medium.
[15:20] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: fails. I tried "chroot /target /sbin/ldconfig -v" getting basically same error as before. there is, in fact, no /sbin/ldconfig in the install environment, so I tried "chroot /target /target/sbin/ldconfig -v" and got the same thing (there is a /target/sbin/ldconfig)
[15:21] <darreo> fixed my problem, ran a fsck on /dev/sda4
[15:21] <Curly_Q> Skutr34 use a 64 gig memory stick to install Linux on.
[15:21] <skypce> hi
[15:21] <darreo> now it reads without a problem
[15:21] <nebular> I'm having a weird issue with openVPN and networkmanager. It no longer sets the default gateway and so unless I add it manually I can only connect to compuers on the local network
[15:21] <skutr34> llutz: ik but if i shrink windows im only going to be able to give it 30 or so gigs
[15:21] <secretary_linux> nebular: default gateway with openvpn is a server, not client setting
[15:21] <skutr34> Curly_Q: not a bad idea
[15:22] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Your backup is probably incomplete.  Perhaps the `rm -r` deleted some system libraries.
[15:22] <cha0s2358> ActionParsnip,
[15:22] <Tw|sT> 16GB at very minimum to be useful.  I've done USB stick installs to 4GB drives, but they are very small and minimally capable.
[15:22] <llutz> skutr34: should be fine, store your data on the win-partition. writing ntfs is no problem
[15:22] <skypce> i have a compiled kernel with acpi modules included, when i shutdown  the machine it doesnt shutdown  what can i do?
[15:22] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: how can I determine what they are? and best I can tell, the backup is actually complete
[15:22] <nebular> secretary_linux: Yes, however openVPN works fine when I boot into linux or on my phone running android 2.3
[15:22] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: if I could chroot in, I would try to do some apt-get repairs
[15:22] <skutr34> llutz: i dont understand
[15:22] <dajhorn> secretary_linux:  That would be a lot of work.   A quicker solution would be to reinstall every package on the broken system.
[15:22] <skutr34> Curly_Q: those things are like 100 dollars
[15:22] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: yes that's also my inclination but I'm not sure the best way to approach it
[15:22] <nebular> so my sever is sending the proper gateway, network manager isn't applying it
[15:23] <Curly_Q> You can install VMware on a memory stick with Windows, Linux, Apple or anything.
[15:23] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: First, get a list of every package on the system.   dpkg --root=/busted/system --get-selections | cut -f1 -d ' '
[15:23] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: ok that's gold, I'm doing it now
[15:23] <nebular> so I'm at a loss as to what happened to nework manager.
[15:23] <llutz> skutr34: if you need more space, store parts of your data (music/photos/videos) on windows-partition from linux. so you won't need more than those 30GB linux
[15:23] <elHannos> Howdy again. Is 'upstart' the exclusive init controlling process or are there still parts from SysVinit around in 10.10 ?
[15:24] <Curly_Q> So, stop crying and start buying.   :)
[15:24] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: there's actually no dpkg in the damn install environment...
[15:24] <skutr34> Curly_Q: it would be cheaper to buy an external drive
[15:24] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Okay, the system is hosed.
[15:24] <skutr34> llutz: yeah i already do that
[15:24] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Wait...
[15:24] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: well that's the install image, there is a dpkg in the broken system
[15:25] <dajhorn> secretary_linux:  Don't run that in the chroot.  dpkg and apt need to be in the recovery environment.
[15:25] <genii-around> elHannos: upstart uses /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf      to call the old-style scripts in /etc/init.d
[15:25] <Curly_Q> Skutr34 the reason I mentioned memory stick is because your laptop is portable. Which means to carry a separate external hard drive is not the way to go. Put the memory stick in your pocket instead. Does that sound reasonable?
[15:25] <skutr34> Curly_Q: lol ill ask my parents (hint, hint
[15:25] <skutr34> Curly_Q: ik
[15:25] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: I know, I can't get into a chroot anyway :) when I tried doing what you said using /target/usr/bin/dpkg, I get "error while loading shared libraries: libselinux.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[15:25] <skutr34> Curly_Q: i just dont want to spend 100 dollars on something i already have in my pants xD
[15:25] <Curly_Q> Yeah dear old dad and mom.   :)
[15:26] <elHannos> genii-around: So rc-sysinit.conf is another upstart-'job'.
[15:26] <skutr34> Curly_Q: i apologize :)
[15:26] <Curly_Q> :)
[15:26] <david__> ;
[15:27] <skutr34> Curly_Q: ok so for now i think ill shrink windows a bit until i can get something like a shtick or an external drive
[15:27] <genii-around> elHannos: As far as I can tell. But you can still call the old sysvinit stuff through it by name like sudo service old-sysvinit-name restart
[15:27] <Curly_Q> Skutr34, before you shrink any data, make sure you back up.
[15:27] <skutr34> Curly_Q: lol god i hate backups
[15:27] <Curly_Q> Guess what?   Welcome to the club.
[15:27] <skutr34> Curly_Q: but i gotta go thanks for the help, and yeah lol
[15:28] <Curly_Q> OK Skutr34, nice to meet you.
[15:28] <genii-around> elHannos: But yeah, initctl list     shows rc-sysinit
[15:28] <elHannos> genii-around: ok, thx
[15:29] <daniel> Moin
[15:30] <daniel> :(
[15:30] <vladimiroff> in which ubuntu release wayland will be installed and used by default?
[15:30] <vladimiroff> I mean, is there a plan for it?
[15:30] <vladimiroff> Just curious how ready is wayland for such a step
[15:31] <CMOT-Weasel> ohai
[15:31] <v_v> vladimiroff: hello. what is wayland ?
[15:31] <Pici> vladimiroff: Not yet. It was annonced after the last UDS, so I would expect that its discussed during the next one probably.
[15:31] <CMOT-Weasel> Random question: I maxed the RAM on my laptop, it started using swap. Fair enough. I've now got >1Gb of RAM free (out of 1.5Gb) and it's still using swap.
[15:31] <CMOT-Weasel> And making everything pig-slow
[15:31] <CMOT-Weasel> Any suggestions?
[15:31] <gnewb> I installed full HDD, now I would like to shrink the install so that I can have extra HDD space for multimedia, is GParted the way or is there a guide from Ubuntu on how this is done?
[15:32] <secretary_linux> ok, so without dpkg able to run, how can I get a list of apt packages installed into my broken system from a usbstick?
[15:32] <v_v> vladimiroff: ok, i googled it
[15:32] <vladimiroff> Pici: so 11.10 may be?
[15:32] <vladimiroff> or later?
[15:33] <Pici> vladimiroff: I personally think after the next LTS, but thats just my opinion.
[15:34] <Curly_Q> CMOT-Weasel check this interesting reading:  http://kerneltrap.org/node/3202
[15:35] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: dpkg needs to run from the Live environment.  It sounds like you have more than one problem.
[15:36] <Curly_Q> CMOT-Weasel, if you have that much RAM why not for the sake of argument disable SWAP and see for yourself.
[15:36] <vladimiroff> Pici: okay. thanks for it :)
[15:36] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: ok, well maybe that part is a simple matter. it seems the ubuntu live environment should include dpkg somewhere and not depend on having a broken system around somewhere
[15:37] <aeon-ltd> CMOT-Weasel: there is a setting 'swappiness' google it, that determines when to swap
[15:37] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: The Live CD certainly has it.  Maybe try that.
[15:37] <lojack> Hello.  Can anyone tell me how I can disable (prevent) swap partition from being accessed and mounted during the boot process?  Adding noswap as boot parameter isn't working.
[15:37] <Curly_Q> CMOT-Weasel, keep in mind that if you have two RAM modules and one is faster than the other, the speed of the RAM will only be that of the slowest RAM.
[15:38] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: this is the server amd64 install image... that's basically what I've got to work with. I'll poke around and see if it's there someplace...
[15:38] <Curly_Q> Many people make the mistake of buying a fast secondary RAM chip when there is another really slow RAM chip on board.
[15:39] <Curly_Q> Remove the slowest RAM module.
[15:39] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: if I can remember the important services I need to reinstall, is there any reason I can't just reinstall the system overtop (without formatting!) without knowing every installed package?
[15:39] <Curly_Q> Always put in matching RAM modules.
[15:45] <Curly_Q> CMOT-Weasel, also try making the SWAP file the same size as the RAM you have. See what happens.
[15:45] <dr0id> i have an old laptop, will ubuntu 10.10 work on it ? currently i am running 9.04 , it has 1gb ram, 200gb HDD and core2duo
[15:46] <llutz> dr0id: it should
[15:46] <Curly_Q> CMOT-Weasel, when I ran Red Hat 9 I had a separate hard drive mounted just for SWAP. It worked very fast.
[15:46] <aeon-ltd> dr0id: dude thats not 'old' :)
[15:46] <Guest24568> ok so i have a hard drive with ubuntu and windows xp partitions, using grub2 its loading ubuntu by default. Im adding a hard drive and installing windows 7 to it, what do i need to do to get wnidows 7 added to the bootloader on the ubuntu/xp drive?
[15:46] <dr0id> aeon-ltd: well, it is 5 years old and last time i tried to upgrade to 9.10 and failed
[15:46] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: You will lose most of your /etc/customization if you clobber the system.
[15:46] <dr0id> so whats the best way to upgrade to 10.10 pls ?
[15:46] <ScottO_> do i just update grub?
[15:46] <erUSUL> !upgrade | dr0id
[15:47] <dr0id> thank you
[15:47] <llutz> dr0id: backup your data and do a fresh install
[15:47] <secretary_linux> so, I want to reinstall ubuntu over top of a broken system without formatting or unnecessarily deleting any files. what's the best way to do this? the installer seems to not want to let me proceed to installation without partitioning first
[15:47] <dr0id> ok., thanks
[15:47] <dr0id> llutz: home and /var/www is all i need to back i guess :)
[15:47] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: oops didn't see your last message. yes, I can back up my /etc and selectively put it back in without a problem
[15:47] <_crash_> lol
[15:47] <_crash_> I just crashed ubuntu
[15:47] <dr0id> lol
[15:47] <Curly_Q> Using a separate hard drive for SWAP reduces latency.
[15:47] <ScottO_> anyone?
[15:48] <llutz> dr0id: depends... i like to have /etc backed up too and a list of installed packages
[15:48] <_crash_> I was listening music in Audacious and then I opened a video in Firefox and it crashed
[15:48] <aeon-ltd> secretary_linux: you can't, you have to partition to make space for a fresh system. if you have a usb stick why don't you boot into a live environment rescue files you need then install ubuntu?
[15:48] <_crash_> :D
[15:48] <_crash_> first time this happens
[15:48] <dr0id> ok
[15:48] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: If you have a full backup, and if you don't mind doing an overlay, then I would do a fresh install.  Anything that broke your system libraries probably caused latent damage elsewhere.
[15:48] <secretary_linux> aeon-ltd: because there is no usb stick large enough to hold user files from this system and /home is not a separate partition
[15:49] <_crash_> I should be Ubuntu tester hehe
[15:49] <_crash_> later
[15:49] <secretary_linux> come on, there's gotta be a way to try it at least.
[15:50] <Curly_Q> Secretary linux, I have a 64 gig memory stick. I use it for the kernel and you can mount a separate drive for the data files and more.
[15:50] <secretary_linux> Curly_Q: good for you ;)
[15:51] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: A manual `debootstrap` will keep your /home intact, but this some work.  The alternate installer will let you skip the format step, but you need to be extra cautious.
[15:51] <Curly_Q> Kingston makes a good flash drive.
[15:51] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: what do you mean by extra cautious?
[15:52] <dee01> hi. i got 10.10 and i encrypted my /home . now i cannot connect via ssh to a server anymore. there is always a password prompt. any hints?
[15:52] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: You need to cancel the install at the disk partitioning step, click back to get to the installation task menu, and then click the right post-partitioning step.  If you just mash the <enter> key, then you'll overwrite the existing system.
[15:52] <ScottO_> ok so i have a hard drive with ubuntu and windows xp partitions, using grub2 its loading ubuntu by default. Im adding a hard drive and installing windows 7 to it, what do i need to do to get wnidows 7 added to the bootloader on the ubuntu/xp drive?
[15:53] <gfs> hi,all.which free vpn's faster in American?
[15:53] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: that seems to jump me back into the partitioner. how do I get into the alternate installer?
[15:53] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: The Ubuntu alternate installer looks like the classic white-on-blue Debian installer.  It will be family if you've used Debian.
[15:53] <Curly_Q> Gfx x11VPN seems to work OK. Works with SSH.
[15:53] <beer_brouwer> dee01: pasword prompt is normal with ssh, except you saved your puclic key on the server you want to connect to
[15:54] <ScottO_> gfs: trying to torrent?
[15:54] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: I think the "alternate" installer you speak of might be the default on the server edition?
[15:54] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Yes, potentially.
[15:54] <dee01> beer_brouwer: the public key is on a server. yes.
[15:54] <gfs> oh,i'm going try
[15:54] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: if that's the case though it's still not letting me bypass that step
[15:54] <dajhorn> secretary_linux: Ubuntu publishes the regular -desktop iso, but you need the -alternate iso.
[15:54] <beer_brouwer> dee01: then I'm afraid I can't help you
[15:55] <dee01> beer_brouwer: tnx anyway
[15:55] <dajhorn> secretary_linux:  http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download
[15:55] <JTS000ID> I am stuck at this..can't get this regular expression right..i have a string containing line..i need to search for DVI in this line..but there are at least 4 DVIs and I need to look for a specific one..can someone guide me with this
[15:56] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: no time for downloads.. I'll try rebooting in install mode, as I was in recovery mode
[15:56] <ua> hello
[15:56] <seyacat> hi ubuntu
[15:56] <ua> need help please
[15:56] <beer_brouwer> ua: then tell us your problem :P
[15:56] <seyacat> in my university i have 4 access points with same essid without passwor, how can i make ubuntu choose the best
[15:57] <ua> i'd like to delete lines on grub, because lot of lines
[15:58] <weecol> # ..... comments
[15:58] <bastidrazor> ua: uninstall older kernels. in synaptic search for "linux-image"
[15:58] <secretary_linux> dajhorn: you know something I could try would be backing up /etc and /var, deleting everything except /home, and then doing this reinstall without format overtop. that would eliminate any fucked up system remnants
[16:00] <Curly_Q> Seyacat, if all of the access points use the same hardware, I don't see any difference.
[16:00] <Curly_Q> It all depends upon how many people at one given time are occupying the access point. You can html into the router and see who is logged in.
[16:01] <Curly_Q> Type in:     http://192.168.0.1
[16:02] <secretary_linux> nothing gets me going like htmling into routers
[16:02] <Curly_Q> Click the link above and it will take you there.
[16:02] <dr0id> i was just thinking
[16:02] <dr0id> when i do apropos ruby i get many results
[16:02] <seyacat> Curly_Q: ubuntu cant connect to this network
[16:02] <milind> when i do tar -xvf myfolder.tgz, its spitting everything out in my current directory....its not creating a directory called myfolder..how can untar myfolder.tgz such that its automatically creates a direcotry called myfolder
[16:02] <dr0id> for example ruby1.9 is one of them, then when i do man ruby1.9 i get no man page, why so ?
[16:03] <llutz> dr0id: man -k ruby
[16:03] <Curly_Q> Seyacat then you didn't specify your question then. Explain.
[16:03] <dajhorn> milind: That behavior is by convention.  It isn't automatic.  The person that created myfolder.tgz forgot to include the myfolder/ prefix.
[16:03] <dr0id> llutz: shows me ruby1.9  , but when i do man ruby1.9 i shows an error
[16:03] <dr0id> cant resolve /usr/share/man/man1/ruby1.9.1.gz .....
[16:04] <mnemoc> hi, where can I tweak the config network-manager passes to dnsmasq when used to share internet? according to `ps` it's using --conf-file /tmp/mbnyvvmubx.conf but that file doesn't exist :<
[16:04] <dajhorn> milind:   mkdir myfolder;  tar -C myfolder -xzvf myfolder.tgz
[16:04] <sipior> dr0id: does "man ruby" not work?
[16:04] <milamber> milind: mkdir <directory> && tar -xvf myfolder.tgz <directory>
[16:05] <llutz> milamber: -C <directory>
[16:05]  * milamber llutz +1
[16:06] <milind> thanks guys..but if i wanted to tar a folder, which when untarred would automatically created that folder..how would i go about doing that
[16:06] <dr0id> sipior: no
[16:06] <sipior> dr0id: and the error is?
[16:06] <dr0id> man: can't resolve /usr/share/man/man1/ruby.1.gz: No such file or directory
[16:06] <dr0id> No manual entry for ruby
[16:07] <milamber> milind: tar -pczf name_of_your_archive.tar.gz /path/to/directory
[16:07] <CMOT-Weasel> 15:36 #ubuntu: < Curly_Q> CMOT-Weasel, if you have that much RAM why not for  the sake of argument disable SWAP and see for  yourself.
[16:07] <secretary_linux> so can anyone confirm that there is absolutely no way in the ubuntu server installer to select mountpoints without formatting partitions?
[16:07] <CMOT-Weasel> Only got 1.5Gb, it regularly uses swap
[16:07] <CMOT-Weasel> swap is set up correctly, it's just not moving from swap back to RAM
[16:08] <CMOT-Weasel> It's a laptop with a 1.8" 4200RPM HDD so swap is pretty slow!
[16:08] <sipior> dr0id: have you recently uninstalled or upgraded the ruby package? also, which version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:08] <cha0s2358> ActionParsnip, you here?
[16:09] <dajhorn> CMOT-Weasel:   Linux swap is somewhat aggressive.  It will pre-fill the swap even if it doesn't immediately need to.
[16:09] <secretary_linux> let me ask this question another way: if all my partitions are mounted and set as "do not use" in manual partitioning, what will happen when i click "write changes to disk"? will they be formatted anyway? will that let me get out of this loop where when I go to the menu and hit the install option, I'm jumped back into partitioning?
[16:09] <sacarlson> dr0id: you will see what I see with man ruby here http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/ruby/
[16:10] <Stevethepirate> Hi, I have an old 10.04 box, but I'd like to just update 1 package from the latest version (bnetd). Is this possible?
[16:10] <CMOT-Weasel> dajhorn: Fair play, anything I can really do about it?
[16:10] <sipior> secretary_linux: they won't be formatted. but of course then there's nowhere to install to...
[16:11] <secretary_linux> sipior: hmmm, but how can I select mountpoints without formatting?
[16:11] <ruan> Stevethepirate: yes, if the latest version of bnetd is on 10.04(lucid)
[16:11] <ruan> repos^
[16:11] <dajhorn> CMOT-Weasel:   I disable swap on computers with 1GB+ of memory unless I want to hibernate the computer.
[16:11] <Stevethepirate> ruan: But thats what I am saying
[16:11] <sipior> secretary_linux: my recollection is that there is a separate format checkbox, but it has been a while.
[16:11] <sacarlson> secretary_linux: that sounds like it should work.  as long as you provide one unused partition at install ubuntu should guess that's where you want to install it
[16:12] <Stevethepirate> I presume there is an update in the 10.10 (because some clients cannot connect to my server)
[16:12] <Stevethepirate> So I assume there was an update of sorts.
[16:12] <dajhorn> CMOT-Weasel: Personally, for a workstation,  I prefer the oom killer over a slow swap.
[16:12] <secretary_linux> sacarlson: that's not at all what i want to do though
[16:12] <dajhorn> CMOT-Weasel:  You can do the same thing by changing the swappiness variables.
[16:12] <ruan> Stevethepirate: is there an update in update manger?
[16:12] <sacarlson> secretary_linux: you don't want to install?
[16:13] <secretary_linux> sacarlson: well, maybe it is... the partitions aren't "unused" per se, I just want to reinstall over top of an existing partition. I guess the installer does see it as "unused"
[16:13] <LarsTorbenk> question
[16:13] <dajhorn> Stevethepirate:   Look at the 'prevu' package.
[16:13] <LarsTorbenk> should use 10.04 or 10.10`
[16:13] <he_> any body?
[16:13] <CMOT-Weasel> dajhorn: Okay, I'll have a look, cheers :)
[16:13] <LarsTorbenk> 10.10 ends support 6 months
[16:13] <dajhorn> CMOT-Weasel: Welcome.
[16:13] <sipior> he_: something we can help you with?
[16:13] <Stevethepirate> dajhorn: will do, regards.
[16:13] <sacarlson> secretary_linux: as long as that's what you write to the partition that's what ubuntu will see
[16:13] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: yes but 10.10 can be upgraded
[16:14] <he_> not really,first time come here
[16:14] <secretary_linux> heh when I try to write changes to disk it just says no root filesystem defined, and tells me to change this in the partitioning menu. which starts the loop over as there seems to be nowhere to set the root mountpoint
[16:14] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: if you plan not to upgrade, then you can use 10.04
[16:14] <LarsTorbenk> yes ruan thats right
[16:15] <kanja1> hey, php5-cli has a dependency on libdb4.8, but only up to 4.7 is in apt. How can I meet that dept?
[16:15] <he_> many thx to u
[16:15] <he_> night
[16:15] <gfs> I'm going to bed. Goodnight everybody.
[16:15] <milind> milamber, i did that same thing..but it did not work..its still spitting out everything in my current directory instead of myfolder
[16:15] <secretary_linux> I found the trick. if you want to install to an existing partition without formatting, you have to select the filesystem type it uses currently, and then choose use current data
[16:16] <moller> goodnight
[16:16] <sacarlson> secretary_linux: so pick a partition to be root
[16:16] <LarsTorbenk> ruan: need an newinstall
[16:16] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: ?
[16:16] <moller> Hello beginner to linux here
[16:16] <LarsTorbenk> is 11.04 good untill now
[16:16] <larious> secretary_linux: your name sound as guru, so maybe you cn help me
[16:16] <LarsTorbenk> because than i will 11.04 now not more 10.10
[16:16] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: im not sure
[16:16] <LarsTorbenk> okay test it
[16:16] <LarsTorbenk> i will test it
[16:17] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: it may be unstable because it is in testing stages
[16:17] <bastidrazor> kanja1: as of 10.04 libdb4.8 is in the repo's
[16:17] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: not intended for normal use
[16:17] <ruan> !natty
[16:17] <secretary_linux> sorry larious I have too many problems of my own
[16:17] <bastidrazor> !info libdb4.8 | kanja1
[16:17] <ruan> in component main, is required.
[16:18] <LarsTorbenk> maybe can i ask in the round which ubuntuversion  do you  use
[16:19] <ruan> LarsTorbenk: im using 10.10
[16:19] <dr0id> sipior: yeh, i had recently tried to upgrade
[16:19] <LarsTorbenk> ok
[16:20] <claw> hallo ich habe folgendes problem : ich wollte einen 42" Plasma als monitor benutzen aber die anzeige überlappt den darstellungsbereich. wie könnte ich das anpassen?
[16:21] <elFidel> claw: english
[16:21] <claw> oh sry
[16:21] <elFidel> !de | claw
[16:21] <zelev> Good afternoon...how can I scan a remote computer for an open port?  The port I´m looking for will be above UDP/25000 and nmap doesn´t seem to pick it up...thank youç
[16:22] <claw> i want to use a 42" Plasma for Display but the picture is bigger than the area of the screen - what can i do ?
[16:23] <sacarlson> secretary_linux: basicly just delete a partition you don't need with gparted and then boot live cd to  install http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287934
[16:23] <BluesKaj> claw, what kind of connection ?
[16:24] <claw> HDMI
[16:24] <gnewb> scarlson: Is that the same as Resizing an sda part?
[16:24] <claw> or better DVI -> HDMI
[16:24] <BluesKaj> claw what's the res set at ?
[16:24] <claw> 1920x1080px
[16:25] <BluesKaj> claw mine is 1920x1080 and fits perfectly, check you tv picture format settings
[16:25] <claw> 16:9
[16:25] <sacarlson> gnewb: well resizing would be needed if you don't want to delete the partition but just the newly created partition from resize as undefined then install
[16:25] <claw> i already checked the tv
[16:26] <gnewb> scarlson: Thank you.
[16:26] <moller> Guys i downloaded this file, how do i "install" it? install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
[16:27] <Guest40473> Is it possible to  do a --dry-run with pm-hibernate, similar to s2disk? I would like to test how much swap space is required by my usage
[16:27] <syn3rgy> Two ppl can both ssh into my computer on there accounts. FINE. What I want to do is let my girlfriend use the HDTV we have to play games in her account while I am in my account working. How can this be done?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> claw, I mean the tv picture setting , make sure it isn't zoomed
[16:28] <sacarlson> moller: that's not the method we normally use to install in ubuntu,  there should be a deb file to install for flash.  I would just install the restricted extra package
[16:28] <claw> yes just did that its a ubuntu problem
[16:28] <claw> BluesKaj i have another maschiene connected and it works there
[16:29] <moller> well inside sacarlson there's a .so file
[16:29] <moller> i got linux first time ever yesterday, not much i understand atm
[16:29] <sacarlson> moller: I don't care what's in it.  if you don't use the package system of ubuntu you will lickly break something
[16:30] <moller> Alright
[16:30] <nhw> hi
[16:30] <syn3rgy> Anybody actually know GNU/Linux here? How can two users use the same graphics card at the same time?
[16:30] <moller> hello
[16:30] <joox> hi all XD
[16:30] <moller> chainsaw...
[16:31] <BluesKaj> claw, what model tv ..I'm connected to a 42" panasonic plasma
[16:31] <sacarlson> moller: all you need to do is sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras  and that will install it and more
[16:31] <claw> me too
[16:31] <claw> TX42XXXXX
[16:31] <sacarlson> moller: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[16:31] <nhw> what app works good for YM ?
[16:32] <moller> ok sacarlson do you have any tutorials or guides to link me to learn a bit more about linux terminal commands?
[16:32] <bastidrazor> !terminal
[16:32] <sacarlson> moller: you can use synaptic
[16:32] <syn3rgy> sigh ssh tempest@shellmix.com -C2TnN -D 8080 | irssi
[16:32] <BluesKaj> claw, which graphics card ?
[16:33] <nishant> how do I write a C program in ubuntu
[16:33] <bastidrazor> moller: also http://ubuntu-manual.org/  :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal   both these links will help
[16:33] <nhw> can I change monitor refresh rate using terminal ?
[16:33] <herpaderp> what's the sed command to show the first four lines of a file and the last two?
[16:33] <nishant> is there a good ide like Turbo C too ?
[16:33] <Fuchs> herpaderp: use tail and head for it, it is easier.
[16:33] <LinuxReign> !tail
[16:34] <sacarlson> nishant: nishant you will need a compiler and header so install http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=build-essential
[16:34] <herpaderp> i'm not sure on the syntax for tail, all i can manage is to list the last two lines
[16:34] <nishant> I have gcc installed , do I need more sacarlson
[16:34] <donnib> hi, i am struggling with a NAS that i want to mount a share in my ubuntu install, i tried NFS ans CIFS and have problems with them, with NFS i can mount but i see a lock icon on all folders, with CIFS i get Permission denied when mounting, the NFS does not require password, it's a Netgear NAS if that makes a difference
[16:35] <Fuchs> tail -n <number of lines>. Same for head.
[16:35] <herpaderp> or rather "head -n 4 file && tail -n 2 file"?
[16:35] <Fuchs> you can as well read the manual of them with  man tail  or  man head
[16:35] <sacarlson> nishant: you always need more but I'm not sure what kind of software you want to write like gui?
[16:35] <donnib> i hope that somebody can help me or point me in the right direction, i feel i have tried alot of things without success
[16:35] <nishant> sacarlson, no learning the basic file handling etc
[16:36] <compdoc> cifs is easy enough to set permissions
[16:36] <moller> ill read thx
[16:36] <donnib> when using sudo mount which UID is used ? the root or the user currently logged in ?
[16:37] <sacarlson> nishant: I'm not sure there are so many https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch09s03.html
[16:37] <nishant> right
[16:37] <nishant> thanks
[16:37] <joe_9> Can someone help me understand this http://codingfreak.blogspot.com/2010/01/creating-and-using-static-libraries-in.html
[16:37] <moller> ok how do i install the upgrades/patches with synaptic after i marked them?
[16:38] <User171> @moller click appy
[16:38] <moller> unclickable
[16:38] <sacarlson> nishant: if all you need is file manipulation are you sure you even need C ?  there are ruby, bash , perl, php .....
[16:39] <donnib> anyone ?
[16:39] <nishant> no sacarlson I am learning the basic of unix internals , only simple TC like thing is enough
[16:39] <User171> then if u r doing upgrade d in terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:39] <llutz> donnib: root
[16:39] <kodez> retend
[16:40] <donnib> so how do i make it mount using another user ? when i try without sudo it says only root can do mount
[16:40] <llutz> donnib: add "users" as option to /etc/fstab
[16:40] <Pici> donnib: or use sudo -u someusername
[16:40] <llutz> donnib: or "user", man mount for differences
[16:40] <donnib> Pici: will try that first
[16:41] <donnib> llutz: thx, will try, first i need to get mount to work manually then ill have to move to fstab
[16:41] <llutz> donnib: on non-unix filesystem you also can use "mount /fs /mountpoint -o uid=1000"
[16:42] <llutz> sudo mount even
[16:42] <donnib> llutz: so i can do that from fstab with uid=1000 option ?
[16:42] <BluesKaj> !pm | claw
[16:42] <llutz> donnib: what filesystem and what is your final goal?
[16:42] <stef> Hi, i have sensors-lm sensors-hdd and sensers applet installed, i added every hdd temp to my applet and it works fine, but when i do a reboot al the temps are gone? i can only see the cpu temps. Can someone help me please ?
[16:43] <donnib> llutz: my goal is to automount an CIFS share (or NFS if that's better) from my NAS in Ubuntu
[16:43] <llutz> donnib: man mount         cifs/nfs have own options
[16:43] <donnib> llutz: for the moment i am trying to succeed to mount it manually using mount in ubuntu and i fail doing that
[16:46] <rob1> join phyton
[16:47] <eviljames> Hi folks, I'm seeing a serious issue with 10.10 on lvm root
[16:47] <Luis_> hello, i'm trying to create a shared contacts list so that everyone in the worshop has access to the same info, what's the easyest way about doing this?
[16:47] <eviljames> actually, it manifests in 10.04 too, but not on a FS that exists on the drive itself.  Only, it seems, on LVM.
[16:48] <wmp> hello, i want to sign error 404 in ubuntu.com
[16:48] <wmp> i can do it on this channel?
[16:48] <eviljames> Long story short: load live cd.  apt-get install mdadm lvm2.  install onto lvm root, using the main installer.  reboot.  do updates.  die.
[16:49] <victorhugo289> Hi
[16:49] <eviljames> This _only_ manifests on lvm2, but is not necessarily due to apt.  Sometimes watching a flash video causes death.
[16:49] <bastidrazor> wmp: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:49] <eviljames> What ends up happening is things start to segfault, one by one, until everything segfaults.
[16:49] <osinet> hi everyone... i have problem with network manager... I can't  open the network manager.. but if I try to open with shell, I have this error:
[16:49] <osinet> osinet@osinetbook:~$ nm-connection-editor
[16:49] <osinet> ** (nm-connection-editor:2435): WARNING **: Icon nm-device-wired missing: Error al abrir el archivo: Demasiados niveles de enlaces simbólicos
[16:49] <osinet> ** (nm-connection-editor:2435): WARNING **: Failed to initialize the UI, exiting...
[16:49] <FloodBot2> osinet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:49] <victorhugo289> Guys, how safe is it to mount folders using the 'mount --bind' command?
[16:49] <wmp> bastidrazor: emmm, 10.10, what you want this info?
[16:49] <eviljames> victorhugo289: Provided that you actually want to bind-mount, yes.
[16:49] <sacarlson> donnib: did you try anything like this mount -t cifs -o guest //192.168.44.100/share /path_to/mount  as seen http://opensuse.swerdna.org/susesambacifs.html
[16:50] <llutz> victorhugo289: define "safe"    it works and is commonly used
[16:50] <bastidrazor> wmp: i suppose i misunderstood your fragmented statement.
[16:50] <eviljames> victorhugo289: mount --bind = take folder /a and have it also at /some/place/a
[16:50] <donnib> sacarlson: yes i did and i get permission denied
[16:50] <donnib> i pressume it's a problem with the UID
[16:50] <sacarlson> donnib: with sudo ?
[16:50] <victorhugo289> I ask this because I've noticed that the folders so mounted don't have a working trash bin, that is: the trash bin doens't work in folders mouted with bind
[16:50] <donnib> scarleo: yes
[16:50] <wmp> bastidrazor: look, on this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download dont work link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.1/ubuntu-10.04.1-server-amd64.iso.torrent
[16:51] <osinet> hello
[16:51] <victorhugo289> I mount with bind using scripts at startup.
[16:51] <sacarlson> donnib: well make sure your user and uuid match or make a new one
[16:51] <llutz> victorhugo289: scripts? why not /etc/fstab?
[16:51] <nephlin> hello
[16:51] <Luis_> hello, i'm trying to create a shared contacts list so that everyone in the worshop has access to the same info, what's the easyest way about doing this?
[16:52] <donnib> sacarlson: yes but the problem is that sudo authenticates with root and if use sudo -u someusername it says only root can do mount
[16:52] <victorhugo289> Fstab doesn't work with --bind, because the folder I want to mount is on a FAT32 partition that I automounts at start up too.
[16:52] <eviljames> Anybody have a good place that I can go for detailed information on lvm / ubuntu combinations?  The wiki is pretty pointless, and filing a bug at this point is equally wasteful as I don't have useful debugging output.
[16:53] <llutz> victorhugo289: sure it works
[16:53] <osinet> (12:49:24) osinet: hi everyone... i have problem with network manager... I can't  open the network manager.. but if I try to open with shell, I have this error:
[16:53] <osinet> (12:49:24) osinet: osinet@osinetbook:~$ nm-connection-editor
[16:53] <osinet> (12:49:24) osinet: ** (nm-connection-editor:2435): WARNING **: Icon nm-device-wired missing: Error al abrir el archivo: Demasiados niveles de enlaces simbólicos
[16:53] <osinet> (12:49:24) osinet: ** (nm-connection-editor:2435): WARNING **: Failed to initialize the UI, exiting...
[16:53] <FloodBot2> osinet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:53] <sipior> osinet: stop doing that. seriously.
[16:53] <osinet> sorry
[16:53] <llutz> victorhugo289: just make sure you mount your vfat 1st, then the bind
[16:53] <sacarlson> donnib: look in System>administration>users & groups and check all of them for the user you want as the mount user
[16:53] <eviljames> osinet: Sounds like you're missing an icon, I guess.
[16:53] <victorhugo289> Startup> Mount FAT partition > --bind a folder in that partition. This doesn't seem to work, apparently.
[16:53] <eviljames> osinet: I can't be bothered to toss it into google translate, though.
[16:55] <bastidrazor> wmp: 10.04.1 is no longer available. they offer 10.04.2 or 10.04   http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.2/
[16:55] <osinet> eviljames, i don't understand you
[16:55] <donnib> sacarlson: nope, does not work, still get only root can do that
[16:55] <victorhugo289> You see I have an important folder that I want to bind to 'Documents' but I'm afraid it might cause problems because mounting with --bind might not be safe.
[16:55] <roland> is it possible to do a dualscreen computer setup using a laptop as a second monitor? The laptop is connected to a PC over ethernet and shows a virtual screen so that it would be possible to move a window from PC over to the laptop screen.
[16:56] <eviljames> roland: synergy2.sourceforge.net
[16:56] <eviljames> roland: This shares mouse/keyboard over a network across 2 machines.
[16:56] <roland> eviljames: I'm already using this, I want to move a window too
[16:56] <sacarlson> donnib: I assume you checked the admin box for the user you want to mount
[16:56] <eviljames> roland: No.
[16:56] <victorhugo289> I have already noticed that the trash bin doesn't work in --bind mounted folders. Also when I click on some files they seem to act kinda weird...
[16:56] <eviljames> roland: err, rather, no it is not possible in the way you are thinking.
[16:56] <theprototype> Does anyone here know anything about Rainbow tables and coWPAtty ??
[16:57] <donnib> sacarlson: yes
[16:57] <eviljames> roland: That being said, you could use ssh and X forwarding to make a window from one machine appear on another.  This can't be done on the fly (afaik).
[16:57] <sacarlson> donnib: show me the line
[16:57] <stef> Hi, i have sensors-lm sensors-hdd and sensers applet installed, i added every hdd temp to my applet and it works fine, but when i do a reboot al the temps are gone? i can only see the cpu temps. Can someone help me please ?
[16:57] <roland> eviljames: I have used that trick too, but not really what I'm after
[16:57] <sacarlson> donnib: show me the command line to mount
[16:58] <donnib> sudo -u testUser mount -t cifs -o guest //192.168.1.55/uTorrent /media/uTorrent
[16:58] <donnib> i also tried sudo mount -t cifs -o guest,uid=1003 //192.168.1.55/uTorrent /media/uTorrent
[16:58] <eviljames> roland: Yeah, those are your options, amigo.  Unless someone here has seen a way to move individual windows from one machine to another, but I have not.  FWIW, I've been using Linux for over 10 years. :/
[16:58] <sacarlson> donnib: does guest exist on your samba server?
[16:58] <eviljames> roland: if you do find something that does this - please PM it to me :D
[16:59] <donnib> sacarlson: the NAS does not have authentication on the shares
[16:59] <moller> how do i become sudo?
[16:59] <moller> i dont have privileges
[17:00] <llutz> moller: ask your admin
[17:00] <sacarlson> donnib: ok then take the -o guest out then
[17:00] <sacarlson> donnib:  sudo mount -t cifs  //192.168.1.55/uTorrent /media/uTorrent
[17:00] <roland> eviljames: isn't it possible to forward entire X screen somehow?
[17:01] <donnib> sacarlson: i tried that and i just tried it again, it asks for password
[17:01] <wmp> bastidrazor: so, why on this page is links to 10.04.1?
[17:01] <PeaceMaker> How to check ufw rules while ufw is inactive?
[17:01] <donnib> sacarlson: and there is no password so i pressume it's a UID problem
[17:01] <sacarlson> donnib: so enter that sudo password
[17:01] <eviljames> roland: I don't follow.  You're looking to move an entire session from one server to another?
[17:01] <donnib> sacarlson: i did
[17:02] <osinet> some one know How can I reintall nm-connector-editor?
[17:02] <donnib> sacarlson: i get mount error(13): Permission denied
[17:02] <donnib> i did not think this should be that complicated......hmmm
[17:02] <eviljames> roland: I thought the request was to be able to drag windows across the network?
[17:02] <roland> eviljames: no, I was just fantacising of a possible way to do it.
[17:03] <PeaceMaker> Please help, how to check ufw rules while ufw is inactive?
[17:04] <Cody3290> Hello, everyone.
[17:04] <roland> eviljames: what I meant was, we already have multiple virtual desktops, isn't there any way to forward that virtual screen to another computer??
[17:04] <Cody3290> roland: have you tried using Teamviewer?
[17:04] <sharkboy96> !irssi
[17:05] <roland> Cody3290: no
[17:05] <sharkboy96> ok
[17:05] <sacarlson> donnib: see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/cifs-mount-error-13-%3D-permission-denied-cifs-sucks-463271/
[17:05] <sacarlson> donnib: looks like cifs format is   mount -t cifs //<MachineName>/<SharedFolder> /mnt/Shared -o username=<DomainName>/<username>,password=<password>
[17:06] <donnib> sacarlson: yes but i don't have authentication
[17:06] <donnib> sacarlson: the share does not require it
[17:06] <sacarlson> donnib: but you do have a domain
[17:06] <osinet> how can I restore my ubuntu to last configuration?
[17:06] <Cody3290> I have approx. 100GB of unallocated space that I want to add to /dev/sda1 which is my WinXP partition, but the problem is the space is in /dev/sda2, my Ubuntu partition. When trying to simply increase the space on my WinXP partition, it won't let me add any more space. How can I do so?
[17:06] <donnib> sacarlson: i can go in Network on Ubuntu and i can see the NAS and i can navigate fine without credentials but i can't mount with mount
[17:06] <Cody3290> I can't figure out how to move the space to my WinXP partition
[17:07] <sacarlson> donnib: yes but that's not using cifs
[17:07] <llutz> Cody3290: you can't without deleting sda2. space has to be continous
[17:07] <PeaceMaker> osinet, try back-in-time
[17:07] <donnib> sacarlson: no, it is CIFS, it says cifs
[17:08] <Cody3290> So I'm stuck with having a small windows space and a gigantic ubuntu space unless I reinstall ubuntu?
[17:08] <osinet> how can I do that?
[17:08] <osinet> PeaceMaker
[17:08] <roland> Cody3290: resize ubuntu
[17:08] <roland> Cody3290: and then windows
[17:08] <Cody3290> I did. The space stays in the ubuntu partition, and I can't edit the winXP space to be any larger
[17:09] <sacarlson> donnib: I thought that nautilus used smbfs
[17:09] <slava__> Can I ask a question?
[17:09] <llutz> Cody3290: make unallocated space an own partition. win has an option to "mount" that partition to a directory of your choice
[17:09] <donnib> sacarlson: i just see it says CIFS in parentheses for the share
[17:09] <roland> Cody3290: is that windows in the primary partition table and ubuntu in the secondary?
[17:09] <roland> Cody3290: extended*
[17:10] <Cody3290> Yes, ubuntu is in the extended partition
[17:10] <MarconM> slava__, ues
[17:10] <MarconM> yes
[17:10] <PeaceMaker> osinet, back-in-time is a "time machine" like software that lets you rewind your file system to a previous state. Google back in time, ubuntu has it in repository as well.
[17:11] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Cody3290,  you could always use a Gparted Live cd. and resize things also.  Bt it depends on your needs.
[17:11] <Cody3290> I am on GParted LiveCD
[17:11] <Cody3290> IT won't let me move the space from /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda1
[17:11] <sharkboy96> is there an dock like the mac and were can i get mac icons
[17:11] <PeaceMaker> How to check ufw rules while ufw is inactive? anyone?
[17:11] <MarconM> Cody3290, you can to use Acronis
[17:11] <Cody3290> Acronis?
[17:11] <Dr_Willis_TCL> there can be issues with resizeing/moveing space from a  Logical/extended onto a Primary next to it. It may take a few steps to get it done.
[17:11] <Cody3290> Oh
[17:12] <Cody3290> I don't mind, as long as I can get that space there
[17:12] <MarconM> Cody3290, yes
[17:12] <Cody3290> I don't like having 100GB i can't really use
[17:12] <MarconM> Cody3290, yes , acronis is a program partition edit very easy to use
[17:12] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Cody3290,  you could just turn that 100gb into a second drive for windows to use. that would be the easiest way to get some use from it.
[17:12] <MarconM> Cody3290, and you can to make backup with it
[17:13] <MarconM> to clone your instalation
[17:13] <Cody3290> Dr_Willis_TCL: How would I do that?
[17:13] <MarconM> very good
[17:13] <slava__> I have integrated Wireless controller (connected with miniPCI) in my notebook. But the button, that should switch on it don't work. In windows I have to run special program to make this button work. I've written code that switch on wifi in ubuntu (that code uses /dev/ports), but I don't know how to hook this "wifi" key. What code in which package I may change to make it work properly?
[17:13] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Cody3290,  use gparted to partuion/format the 100gb to ntfs. windows should then see it.
[17:13] <Cody3290> ah
[17:13] <mix22891> it so cold
[17:14] <Cody3290> So it would come up, say, in My Computer, with C:\ and then I'd have something else like Z:\ or J:\?
[17:14] <Cody3290> A different letter than C:\, I meant
[17:14] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Cody3290,  thats how windows dose it yes...
[17:14] <Cody3290> Does it matter that it is in a different partition?
[17:14] <mix22891> Cody3290!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:14] <Cody3290> o.O
[17:14] <mix22891> hi
[17:14] <Cody3290> Yes, mix22891?
[17:14] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Cody3290,  if it was the same partition.. it would be the same letter.. :)
[17:14] <Cody3290> err, hello...
[17:14] <mix22891> sup my brow
[17:15] <Cody3290> I'm not your brow. I'm not even a part of your head, let alone your body.
[17:15] <Cody3290> Thank you, Dr_Willis_TCL. I just realized how stupid htat question was after I said it >.<
[17:15] <Cody3290> that, rather
[17:15] <mix22891> i mean broter
[17:15] <Dr_Willis_TCL> :)
[17:15] <Cody3290> what's a broter, mix22891?
[17:15] <mix22891> brother
[17:15] <Cody3290> Oh
[17:15] <Cody3290> Trolling is fun ^.^
[17:15] <Cody3290> Oh well, ciao everyone. THanks for the help
[17:16] <Dr_Willis_TCL> someday fire up virtualbox and boot a gparted live cd and play with it and resizeing/making/moveing virtual partitions. heh
[17:17] <PeaceMaker> How to check ufw rules while ufw is inactive? anyone?
[17:17] <Dr_Willis_TCL> well for iptables theres 'sudo iptables --list'
[17:17] <PeaceMaker> trying
[17:17] <Dr_Willis_TCL> try ufw --help and see if ihas a similer option
[17:18] <PeaceMaker> no luck with sudo iptables --list
[17:18] <PeaceMaker> it prints out no rules, but I just added two rules.
[17:19] <Dr_Willis_TCL> if ufw is disabled.. that would make sence.
[17:19] <Dr_Willis_TCL> since iptables shows the actual in place rules.
[17:19] <Dr_Willis_TCL> check 'ufw --help'  or theres always the ufw docs. :)
[17:20] <PeaceMaker> checked community docs, no avail on the solution.
[17:20] <PeaceMaker> Maybe ufw wrote the rules to a file
[17:20] <PeaceMaker> man ufw didn return useful info.
[17:21] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Im not on a ubuntu box - so i cant even look. :) I dont use ufw however.
[17:21] <usuario_> olaa
[17:22] <IdleOne> !es | usuario_
[17:22] <PeaceMaker> I need to turn on ufw for my server, but don't want to interrupt live connections.
[17:22] <Dr_Willis_TCL> thats beyone my experience :) heh
[17:23] <llutz> PeaceMaker: "strace -e open -f ufw 2>&1 | grep ^open"   and look what files it uses, maybe you find the one holding the rules
[17:24] <tyreza> hello
[17:24] <tyreza> there
[17:24] <Jonta_> What's a good way of asking a generic question about "Different ways of using(accesing) a feature of a computer program (i.e. hotkey and button and pie-menu and direct textinput etc."?
[17:25] <mix22891> helooooooooo
[17:25] <Jonta_> It's a challenge to summarize it all in a thread-topic or  similar
[17:25] <Jonta_> mix22891: Hi there
[17:25] <c_nick> I am developing an application on iOS in Xcode. is there a way i can port it all to Ubuntu ? :)
[17:25] <mix22891> Jonta! how's you
[17:25] <mix22891> :)
[17:25] <AbismoNegro> hi. i have problems installing the internet explorer using wine. when i try to install the ie packages the following message shows up:  43%  IE_S1.CAB!! An error ocurred when downloading. Please run IEs4Linux again. Corrupted file: ie6/EN-US/IE_S1.CAB
[17:25] <Jonta_> mix22891: Good. Trying to find an answer to my question. How about you?
[17:26] <mix22891> wanna go for dinner?
[17:26] <IdleOne> !ot | mix22891
[17:26] <c_nick> basically all i need is Xcode and the emulator and iOS SDK
[17:26] <Jonta_> Depends on where you live
[17:26] <mix22891> what is your number girl
[17:26] <IdleOne> AbismoNegro: ask in #winehq for help with wine
[17:26] <Dr_Willis_TCL> AbismoNegro,  sounds like a bad download file to me.  You may want to check the ies4linux homepage/thread/docs.
[17:26] <MSU_Student55> Hey, I had a question about installing Ubuntu on Virtual PC for Windows 7
[17:26] <Jonta_> mix22891: /msg-ed
[17:26] <BluesKaj> !IE | AbismoNegro
[17:26] <mix22891> msg' who?
[17:27] <tyreza> $ /etc/init.d/network restart and /etc/init.d/apache reload : how to script this things ?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> hehe , wrong script ubottu
[17:27] <Jonta_> mix22891: You of course
[17:27] <Dr_Willis_TCL> tyreza,  Huh?    Youmay want to learn to use the 'service' command also...
[17:27] <MSU_Student55> I've set up the Virtual Machine to use a Virtual HD dynamically maintained by Windows
[17:27] <MSU_Student55> during the installation Ubuntu requests to create a partition
[17:28] <tyreza> Yes
[17:28] <Dr_Willis_TCL> tyreza - clarify what you are trying to do.
[17:28] <BluesKaj> AbismoNegro, why IE , you can run FF as IE on certain websites
 i know ie sucks but unfortunately the following website which is for my university just works with ie.
[17:28] <MSU_Student55> I'm confused if this is actually going to attempt to repartition my actual HD, or just the virtual HD Windows created
[17:28] <Dr_Willis_TCL> MSU_Student55,  it would be the virtual hard drive.
by the way i prefer opera over all of them
[17:28] <tyreza> i simply wanna know : how to /etc/init.d/networking restart and  /etc/init.d/apache reload
[17:29] <Dr_Willis_TCL> MSHughes,  its gernally NOT a good idea to use a virtual machine to access a real hard drive..
[17:29] <AbismoNegro> thank you guys . i'll try
[17:29] <tyreza> i simply want to run that two command at same time
[17:29] <tyreza> how to do ?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis_TCL> tyreza,    if you restart it.. it does reload...
[17:29] <MSU_Student55> Dr_Willis, if I go through the guided partition and select to use all of the space available, my PC will be fine?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis_TCL>  tyreza  Oh. You want some bash basics lessons...
[17:29] <BluesKaj> abis yes I like opera too, but it doesn't run too well on natty
[17:30] <dryicebomb> tyreza /etc/init.d/networking restart && /etc/init.d/apache reload
[17:30] <Dr_Willis_TCL> MSU_Student55,  it should be using the virtual disks... check your VM machineds docs...
[17:30] <ruan> are there mouse macroing programs for ubuntu? if not, will mouse macroing programs work on wine?
[17:30] <tyreza> you have to learn first the linux basics lesson Dr_Willis_TCL
[17:30] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ruan,  there are some out for Linux/ubuntu. and No i havent used them
[17:30] <Dr_Willis_TCL> tyreza,  time to get reading then.
[17:30] <Dr_Willis_TCL> !manual | tyreza
[17:30] <tyreza> thanks dryicebomb that's what i m thing but how to script that one ? dryicebomb
[17:30] <ruan> Dr_Willis_TCL: are there any in the repos? i've looked but nothing related to 'macro'
[17:31] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ruan,  i dont use them.. ive seen them mentioned. xmacro perhaps.. i cant recall names.
[17:31] <wavez> could anyone recommend a media player? Totem movie player seems pretty crappy.
[17:31] <llutz> tyreza: write that line into a file, make it executable, script done
[17:31] <tyreza> ok let me check
[17:31] <elHannos> wavez: yep it is. I like vlc.
[17:31] <Dr_Willis_TCL> wavez,  vlc, mplayer and its variants, xbmc, boxee, and proberly 4+ oters.
[17:32] <elHannos> wavez: ...and mplayer of course
[17:32] <ruan> is there any media player which allows buffer configuration?
[17:32] <ruan> mainly size
[17:32] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ruan,  vlc and mplayer have more settings then you can even imagine.
[17:32] <elHannos> ruan: vlc also
[17:33] <ruan> i'll check vlc
[17:33] <llutz> PeaceMaker: /lib/ufw/rules[6].rules
[17:33] <elHannos> ruan: mplayer also
[17:34] <wavez> alright, thanks guys
[17:35] <donnib> is it possible to specify uid for an NFS share ?
[17:36] <ariel__> hi people! i'm not able no configure ubuntu to recognize my internal microphone (im using a dell laptop), some help please?
[17:37] <PeaceMaker> llut, got it /lib/ufw/user.rules
[17:37] <mix22891> ariel from israel?
[17:37] <PeaceMaker> Thanks,
[17:38] <sipior> donnib: no, specifying a uid won't make any sense in that case.
[17:38] <donnib> sipior: what about an username ?
[17:38] <PeaceMaker> llut, thanks.
[17:38] <sipior> donnib: no difference.
[17:39] <donnib> sipior: so when i get a access denied by server
[17:39] <sipior> donnib: either the server or the client is configured badly.
[17:40] <donnib> sipior: hmm....i don't have a password on the NAS so what else can it be ?
[17:40] <will_> Is there a way to change the default video accelleration to XAA?
[17:40] <gimpy4685> So, with Ubuntu "editions" like the server edition going awya, does that mean 11.04 will let yuou choose to install a GUI or not? Will it let you make custom LVM layouts like the server edition does?
[17:40] <donnib> sipior: i do mount -t nfs 192.168.1.55:uTorrent /media/uTorrentNFS
[17:40] <cry> y0
[17:41] <deucep> gimpy4685: I hope so
[17:41] <Pumpkin-> donnib: I think what you might want, is some kind of UID mapping. Do "man 5 exports" and search for the various "map" options ?
[17:41] <sipior> donnib: is the server configured to permit access from your machine?
[17:41] <gimpy4685> deucep: If not then I just built my last Ubuntu box forever last week...
[17:41] <donnib> sipior: the server is not set to restrict anybody if that's what you ask
[17:42] <sipior> donnib: the question is whether it *permits* anybody.
[17:42] <donnib> sipior: yes it does
[17:42] <sipior> donnib: you've verified that on another machine?
[17:42] <Dr_Willis_TCL> gimpy4685,  i think the editions will mean the desktop/netbook editions are going away.  sicne they will be using the same interface.
[17:42] <donnib> sipior: no, i can't because then ill have to do mount as well
[17:42] <sipior> donnib: uh, what?
[17:42] <BajK> I have /dev/sdb and I want to partition it ant format it with ext4, i.e. create a /dev/sdb1 and format it. with console
[17:43] <donnib> sipior: i mean how would i try it ? i have a mac but i have not tried to do mount on that one
[17:43] <elHannos> donnib: do you have access to log-files on this server?
[17:43] <sipior> donnib: so when you said "yes it does"...
[17:43] <donnib> elHannos: where do i find that ?
[17:44] <elHannos> donnib: depends on the OS/Brand your server is running...
[17:44] <donnib> sipior: it's something i believe it is, of course i cannot know for sure, i have looked thru the settings of the NAS and i can't find something that indicates that
[17:44] <donnib> elHannos: ohh you mean on the NAS
[17:44] <elHannos> donnib: yep
[17:45] <donnib> elHannos: no, i don't i assume there is if i enable some settings or i access it thru SSH
[17:45] <llutz> BajK: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/IBM7248-HOWTO/cfdisk.html    to create a partition. sudo mkfs.ext -m0 /dev/sdb1      to create filesystem
[17:45] <donnib> elHannos: but i have not tried to look for it
[17:45] <netcitizen> How to install this gnome theme http://danoex.deviantart.com/#/d3b5s7t
[17:45] <MnCC> when 11.04 comes out, do i need to reinstall or does update manager come with a bunch of updates ?
[17:45] <elHannos> donnib: sry, didn't understand your second-last sentence
[17:45] <BajK> llutz: hm I need to crate a partiton table, is this possible with parted?
[17:46] <donnib> elHannos: i am just saying that i don't have logs on the NFS server
[17:46] <BajK> got it
[17:46] <elHannos> donnib: ;) k...
[17:47] <netcitizen> Can someone tell how to install this theme ? here http://danoex.deviantart.com/#/d3b5s7t am using ubuntu 10.10
[17:48] <donnib> elHannos: actually that was not true, i just found this [2011/03/15 18:45:01, 2] auth/auth.c:check_ntlm_password(319)
[17:48] <donnib>   check_ntlm_password:  Authentication for user [nobody] -> [nobody] FAILED with error NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_USER
[17:48] <donnib> sorry i should have used pastebin
[17:48] <donnib> this indicates that when i mount with NFS it mounts with empty username which it's wrong
[17:49] <donnib> that's why i asked if there is a way to specify an username
[17:50] <LtHummus> is there anyone that can help with my lirc issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1706398
[17:50] <sipior> donnib: what does the documentation for the NAS say?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> donnib: use the file -> network item
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> donnib: you can add a username there
[17:50] <donnib> ActionParsnip: ?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> donnib: in nautilus, there is a file menu, in the file menu there is a network item
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> donnib: you can specify username there
[17:52] <donnib> ActionParsnip: not sure where that is ? in System ?
[17:52] <tyreza> hi
[17:52] <Dr_Willis_TCL> explore the menus. :) look for a network item. It may be in your native language.
[17:52] <donnib> sipior: they don't specify how to mount the nas from ubuntu with NFS
[17:53] <wtbtr> I am trying to create a usb version of the networkinstall iso image. I am using "startup disk creator". Somehow I cannot select the iso image. Any suggestions?
[17:53] <tyreza> php script can be used for linux script ?
[17:53] <Dr_Willis_TCL> donnib,  they state its a NFS server? Often the things have a web interface that lets you configure them.
[17:53] <sipior> donnib: which NAS are you using?
[17:53] <donnib> sipior: Netgear Readuynas NV+
[17:53] <donnib> Readynas
[17:53] <donnib> Dr_Willis_TCL: yes i know that, i am using that one
[17:54] <Dr_Willis_TCL> wtbtr,  not all of those images work as a usb disk. No idea if the networkinstall iso does..   Theres always the various tools at  the pendrivelinux web site also.
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> wtbtr: try unetbootin
[17:55] <sipior> donnib: http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5737&view=previous
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> donnib: click places -> home folder
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> donnib: the file browser is called nautilus
[17:56] <eviljames> Is there perhaps a Ubuntu advanced channel of sorts?
[17:56] <Dr_Willis_TCL> eviljames,  not that ive ever noticed.
[17:56] <opalfroot> is there a bug changing permissions on ntfs drives ?
[17:56] <donnib> sipior: Places -> Home folder ? on the web interface ?
[17:56] <Dr_Willis_TCL> theres the ubuntu-server channel and kubuntu and a few others..
[17:56] <looonger> internet explorer 9 has been released but no deb for ubuntu yet?
[17:56] <sipior> donnib: one imagines so.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis_TCL> opalfroot,  otehr then the fact that you cant.. :)  you select the permissions as mount options..
[17:57] <eviljames> Dr_Willis_TCL: This is unfortunate.  Know anyone who knows anything about lvm/ubuntu combinations?
[17:57] <micro__> Guys at you opens??? http://pic4you.ru/10376/760457/
[17:57] <eviljames> Trying to get a good way to go about troubleshooting what I see as a weird issue.
[17:57] <opalfroot> dr_willis, I have it mounted as read write but still nada
[17:57] <Dr_Willis_TCL> eviljames,  nope. i dont use lvm, or raid. to many hassles.
[17:57] <llutz> micro__: stop that spam!
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> donnib: no, on your desktop
[17:57] <Dr_Willis_TCL> opalfroot,  check the ownership. and uid/gid options.
[17:58] <Dr_Willis_TCL> opalfroot,  and the umask option.
[17:58] <opalfroot> yup both set to me
[17:58] <opalfroot> unmask ?
[17:58] <Dr_Willis_TCL> umask = selexcts the default  modes.
[17:58] <opalfroot> ok will check
[17:58] <Dr_Willis_TCL> opalfroot,  you are mounting it by hand? or letting gnome auto mount it on access?
[17:58] <opalfroot> gnome auto
[17:59] <Dr_Willis_TCL> opalfroot,   you may want to install/run the ntfs-config tool,. OR set it up to mount how you want in fstab.
[17:59] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ntfs-config tool was a little flakey last i used it.
[17:59] <opalfroot> k will check out ntfs-config
[17:59] <Dr_Willis_TCL> it worked.. but wouldent close. :)
[18:00] <tyreza> hello
[18:00] <miketomdool> hi
[18:00] <tyreza> how to call a script on a script ?
[18:01] <deucep> Anyone know how to setup a public samba share but have it password protected?
[18:01] <Dr_Willis_TCL> tyreza,  clarify what you mean..
[18:01] <opalfroot> deucap sure
[18:01] <tyreza> i got a script to connect to ssh
[18:01] <tyreza> i need a script
[18:01] <tyreza> i need a script
[18:01] <opalfroot> deucep you need to setup samba users
[18:01]  * Dr_Willis_TCL waits for some actual details...
[18:02] <tyreza> i need an other script to restart networks
[18:02] <opalfroot> using the smbpasswd utility
[18:02] <opalfroot> that allows them to log in
[18:02] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ssh can run a remote command. its a feature of ssh.
[18:02] <tyreza> so what i have to call my ssh connect ?
[18:02] <opalfroot> then you assign them to groups etc - which follows the permissions of the file system unless otherwise stated
[18:02] <Dr_Willis_TCL> !ssh
[18:02] <tyreza> go back and read well Dr_Willis_TCL
[18:03] <tyreza> Dr_Willis_TCL: you don't listening welll
[18:03] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ssh into the remote box and run whatever command you need. or check the ssh option i think its -e or -c
[18:03] <tyreza> i know what is ssh ?
[18:03] <llutz> ssh user@host <command>
[18:03] <deucep> opalfroot: I must have something setup wrong in my SMB
[18:03] <Dr_Willis_TCL> you want to  remotely restart networking on a machine you said..
[18:03] <sipior> tyreza: you're not exactly making things easy for him.
[18:03] <deucep> opalfroot: I added the user but I still cant login at the prompt
[18:03] <Dr_Willis_TCL> you havent exactly read the docs on ssh then tyreza  - or else its not clear what youa re doing sounds exactly like a feature in ssh.
[18:03] <tyreza> i said that i got a current where it is able to connect to ssh
[18:03] <opalfroot> paste your config @ pastie.org
[18:04] <tyreza> on an other machine
[18:04] <danny66RO> hi all
[18:04] <tyreza> now i need a script who able to able to connect on my remote machine using that script then restart network
[18:04] <tyreza> how to do ?
[18:04] <tyreza> that's why my question is : how to call a script on a script ?
[18:05] <Dr_Willis_TCL> if script2 is executable, then script1 can call it as it would any other command.
[18:05] <danny66RO> i need some help...i'm new to linux...ubuntu
[18:05] <danny66RO> anyone?
[18:05] <Dr_Willis_TCL> danny66RO,  and the problem is?
[18:05] <llutz> tyreza: "exec script2"
[18:06] <Dr_Willis_TCL> or /path/to/script2
[18:06] <sipior> danny66RO: custom here is just to ask your question directly :-)
[18:06] <tyreza> that's enough thatnks a lot
[18:06] <Dr_Willis_TCL> depends on the details...
[18:06] <danny66RO> well i have ubuntu10.10 and it freezez after  a couple of minutes
[18:06] <llutz> Dr_Willis_TCL: i don't think we can expect details here...
[18:07] <sipior> indeed, or legible sentences.
[18:07] <Dr_Willis_TCL> llutz,  and ssh adds a whole addational layer of things...
[18:07] <llutz> Dr_Willis_TCL: needs a little bit of reading. too high expectations
[18:08] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ssh - truely the multi-tool of the age.
[18:08] <danny66RO> llutz?
[18:08] <Dr_Willis_TCL> It slices/dices/remote admins,...
[18:08] <n4pol3on> hello
[18:08] <Dr_Willis_TCL> danny66RO,  if you just let the pc set for a while.. does it freeze?
[18:09] <llutz> danny66RO: ? no idea to your issue, would think thermal problems
[18:09] <kheeper> danny66RO: what you need to know
[18:09] <danny66RO> no...when i brows online
[18:09] <PeaceMaker> llutz, if ssh is inside script1, I am afraid it still needs you to input password.
[18:09] <Dr_Willis_TCL> danny66RO,  does it ONLY freeze when you are browsing?
[18:09] <danny66RO> sry for my bad english
[18:09] <llutz> PeaceMaker: not my problem...
[18:09] <n4pol3on> y a t il un français ici?
[18:09] <danny66RO> i always brows...
[18:09] <Ratzinger> hello. I am sharing a folder on my linux (ubuntu 10.10) that I ftp into. Is there a way to make it not time out and become unavailable until I remind ubuntu that it's a shared folder?
[18:09] <eviljames> n4pol3on: je parle un petit peut
[18:10] <PeaceMaker> then, scp script2 over to server, and run script1 to call script2.
[18:10] <Blue1> !fr | n4pol3on
[18:10] <Dr_Willis_TCL> danny66RO,   that was not how you phrased the q2uestion at first.. :)  If your browser is locking up the whole pc..  that sounds liek a flash problem.
[18:10] <Ratzinger> remind = prefs>shared files> toggle said folder off then on
[18:10] <danny66RO> anyway to talk in privet here pls?
[18:10] <morfeus> ciao a tutti
[18:11] <eviljames> Blue1: I think the first 'merci' should be replaced with a "s'il-te-plait" - but the actual frenchman would have to confirm ;)
[18:11] <Ratzinger> danny66RO:: message the person?
[18:11] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Flash problems can be VERY hard to troubleshoot. :(
[18:11] <Blue1> eviljames: i have plenty of problems with english.  I went to publick skewls
[18:11] <PeaceMaker> llutz, if two scripts are on the same server, you can call scripts as long as 1) the path is right, 2) the permission is right.
[18:12] <eviljames> Blue1: I went to private schools in Canada, but I haven't kept my french in practice ;)
[18:12] <Dr_Willis_TCL> PeaceMaker,  <tyreza>    is the one needing the scripting lesson i belive.. :)
[18:12] <deucep> opalfroot: http://pastie.org/1675378
[18:12] <morfeus> ma che canale e
[18:12] <Blue1> Dr_Willis_TCL: i just installed ff 4.0 -- for the first time since 10.10 relased, this is a stable release for me.  (chrome/opera worked fine, but ff locked up my system)
[18:12] <llutz> PeaceMaker: sure, but it wasn't me asking....
[18:12] <erkan^> !sudo
[18:13] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Blue1,  ive not tried FF4 on anything yet. :) never had an issue with normal FF.
[18:13] <PeaceMaker> lol, sry llutz
[18:13] <llutz> PeaceMaker: i just answered his question how to call a script from a script.
[18:14] <deucep> opalfroot: Took me a bit to get it through ssh lol
[18:15] <Calinou> hi, with nautilus, how can i search including hidden files?
[18:15] <thrope> im trying to run pprof from google-perftools - i've installed all the google-perftools packages I can see but it doesnt seem to be there
[18:15] <Calinou> i need to remove all those .svn in a group of folders where i don't use svn anymore
[18:15] <thrope> any ideas how I can get it? are the ubuntu perftools packages broken?
[18:15] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Calinou,  you could use find with the proper options to find/remove tehm
[18:16] <Calinou> i've checked "show hidden files"
[18:16] <Calinou> but this does not apply to search, the ctrl+f one
[18:16] <Dr_Willis_TCL> I wonder if thers some nice gui to find...
[18:17] <ZenMasta> I made a link to a script in /ect/cron.hourly but it doesn't seem to be running so I'm wondering what else I need to do.  the script works if I run it manually
[18:17] <Calinou> no file found using the advanced search from ubuntu's applications too
[18:17] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ZenMasta,  what does the script do.. did you use absolute paths.. is it using the right shell.
[18:17] <Calinou> oh. found
[18:17] <Calinou> i've found, thanks anyway, bye
[18:17] <PeaceMaker> find / -name .svn | xargs rm -f
[18:17] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Calinou,  find is a command line tool that can do fancy things :) like PeaceMaker  just showed.
[18:17] <ZenMasta> Dr_Willis_TCL its a mysql backup
[18:18] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ZenMasta,  check your paths..  make the script print out some log/info messages to say waht its doing and perhaps failing at..
[18:18] <ZenMasta> Dr_Willis_TCL as I mentioned the script works if I run it manually I've never used cron before so i'm sure I'm msising something
[18:18] <RobinJ> genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory 'isolinux'!
[18:18] <RobinJ> Command exited with non-zero status 255
[18:18] <RobinJ>  << then you're f*cking blind!
[18:19] <Wickedspawn> My wireless shuts off whenever I unplug my AC cord (Laptop btw). I checked power management, and all of that seems to be fine. I don't know what keeps making it shut off. Also, my USB ports seem to go off at the same time (USB keyboard won't respond.). When I plug the AC back in, they still don't work and I end up having to reboot.
[18:19] <Calinou> PHEW
[18:19] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ZenMasta,  cron  will not be using your personal alias's or PATH variable. It has its own clean 'enviroment' (i think thats the right term)
[18:19] <Calinou> almost destroyed my comp
[18:19] <ZenMasta> there isn't a crontab for my user, but I thought if I just put it in the cron.hourly folder it would work
[18:19] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ZenMasta,  check others in there. check that its executable.  check its permissions and ownership.. (im just ticking off things to check)
[18:20] <Calinou> done ZenMasta, thanks, but the next time instead of "/", say "directory"
[18:20] <lojack> Does anyone know how to _completely_ prevent swap from being mounted at boot?  Adding noswap as boot parameter doesn't work.
[18:20] <Calinou> i'm not so attentive, so..
[18:20] <ZenMasta> Callum that wasn't directed at you.
[18:20] <ZenMasta> Dr_ it's owned by root, its writable
[18:20] <Dr_Willis_TCL> is it executable..
[18:20] <ZenMasta> Dr_Willis_TCL its a .sh
[18:20] <PeaceMaker> lojack, check /etc/fstab
[18:20] <Dr_Willis_TCL> ive not used cron in ages. :) im rusty withit.
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> lojack: comment out the swap in fstab too
[18:21] <Dr_Willis_TCL> being named. .sh does NOT make it executable.
[18:21] <Dr_Willis_TCL> sudo chmod +x whatever.sh
[18:21] <ZenMasta> Dr_Willis_TCL yes, I've already done that
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> ZenMasta: the extension means nothing in Linux. Windows relies on the extension to tell it what the file is, Linux is smart and looks at the data
[18:21] <Dr_Willis_TCL> make a simple example to try the same thing, have it print a single line to a log.. see if that one works  as a test perhaps.
[18:22] <Dr_Willis_TCL> or comap[re it to other cron hourely scripts and hope to find a differance.
[18:22] <ZenMasta> do I have to have a crontab though or is having a link in cron.daily sufficient?
[18:22] <Huck_> pulling a wave file from an audio disc results in a larger file than ripping the same wave file using audio juicer, does juicer compress a wave file ?
[18:23] <llutz> ZenMasta: a .sh file won't work in /etc/cron.hourly
[18:23] <Gryphon4200> I'm attempting to write a script to test ASCII colors for my terminal. I'm in xterm and ksh. Does anyone have any advise?
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> ZenMasta: export EDITOR=nano; crontab -e      or you can use gnome-schedule if you prefer GUI. To crom as root use: export editor=nano; sudo crontab -e   or: gksudo gnome-schedule
[18:23] <gnewb> Can and how do I 'shrink' , resize an sda partition , I am 10.04, and I really do not need the full drive with one install, I would prefer to re-size it so that I can store documents and multimedia files and backups.
[18:23] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Gryphon4200,  the advanced bash scripting guide has a example i recall that prints out a rainbow test pattern of colors.
[18:24] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Gryphon4200,  but NO idea on how ksh does it..
[18:24] <Jimmymaniac> Hi. Quick question: In maverick how do i give Nautilus a url to open like i used to in older versions? like when i was able to tell it to go to smb:/somewhere
[18:24] <Gryphon4200> Thanks... I'll take a look at that...
[18:24] <trism> Jimmymaniac: ctrl+L
[18:24] <Dr_Willis_TCL> smb://location still works
[18:25] <Jimmymaniac> trism: thanks :)
[18:25] <Dr_Willis_TCL> They really need to inprove that url/pathbar/thang.. :)
[18:25] <Dr_Willis_TCL> I got mine set to always show.  guess im just old-skool.
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Jimmymaniac: press ALT+F2 and type the smb:// stuff and it will work
[18:25] <ZenMasta> ActionParsnip no crontab for root - using an empty one... so do I still have to make this kind of entry in the crontab 01 04 1 1 1 /usr/bin/somedirectory/somecommand  I thought that was the whole point of putting it i the cron.whateverfolder
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Gryphon4200: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/colortable.gif
[18:25] <Wickedspawn> My wireless shuts off whenever I unplug my AC cord (Laptop btw). I checked power management, and all of that seems to be fine. I don't know what keeps making it shut off. Also, my USB ports seem to go off at the same time (USB keyboard won't respond.). When I plug the AC back in, they still don't work and I end up having to reboot. Can anyone help?
[18:26] <llutz> ZenMasta: rename your link/script, the name must not contain a "." dot (man run-parts)
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> ZenMasta: command will add it where necessary
[18:26] <PeaceMaker> Wickedspawn, more like a hardware problem.
[18:27] <Dr_Willis_TCL> or really weird apci/bios power saveing..
[18:27] <Wickedspawn> PeaceMaker: i would have said that too.. but it didn't happen on 10.04, 9.10, or 9.04. (Currently on 10.10)
[18:27] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Wickedspawn,  as a test. try a older live cd. see if works/dont work.
[18:28] <gnewb> Wickedspawn: Yes, what Action+Parsnip stated, I am thinking it may be a power saving program or setup causing it.
[18:28] <PeaceMaker> Wickedspawn, humm, do as Dr Willis said.
[18:28] <Dr_Willis_TCL> also test 11.04.  if you could prove it only has issues with 10.10  that would help the bug reports
[18:28] <PeaceMaker> I haven't seen this on all computers I used (> a dozen)
[18:29] <genii-around> Wickedspawn: You can always try to turn off the autosuspend manually for a device. Like if /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/1-3/power/autosuspend  for instance belonged to your wifi, you could: echo "0" | sudo tee -a /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/1-3/power/autosuspend
[18:29] <ZenMasta> I renamed my script to remove the extension and relinked it in /etc/cron.hourly I guess I'll find out if it works in 30 minutes
[18:29] <frojnd> Does anyone know what option do I have to enable in ccsm in order to drag my windows?
[18:29] <manue> k ase pintamonaa
[18:30] <genii-around> Wickedspawn: lsusb should tell you which you need to use
[18:30] <gnewb> Wickedspawn: Dr_Willis could also be correct.
[18:30] <[4-tea-2]> Does anyone have an idea how "os-prober" finds Win7 partitions? I need to "hide" an old Win installation without removing its partition.
[18:30] <manue> ola
[18:30] <manue> ola
[18:30] <manue> ola
[18:30] <FloodBot2> manue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> [4-tea-2]: there may be an option to ignore a partition
[18:31] <gnewb> !es | manue
[18:31] <Dr_Willis_TCL> [4-tea-2],  one trick could be to copy the 'stanzas' that update-grub generates from the grub.cfg into the 40_custome file, and then  disable os-prober. and edit 40_custome to not show what you dont want shown.
[18:32] <Wickedspawn> ill try them.. I will save the version hopping as a last resort.
[18:32] <Dr_Willis_TCL> Os-prober here just finds the same windows partitions.. so i dont even  need it much :)
[18:32] <[4-tea-2]> ActionParsnip: os-prober does not give any help and has no man page and nothing in /usr/share/doc.
[18:32] <Dr_Willis_TCL> but i dont add/remove new OS's that much.
[18:32] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis_TCL: that's a great workaround, but since I don't use the old windows anymore, I don't mind "disabling" it. I just don't want to lose access to the data on the partition.
[18:33] <Dr_Willis_TCL> [4-tea-2],  i do think the grub2 forum thread. has some info on changeing that behaivor also.
[18:33] <Dr_Willis_TCL> [4-tea-2],  you can still mount it.. grub just wont make an entry for it.
[18:33] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis_TCL: yeah, I understand, that's why I said it's a great workaround. I'm interested for the proper solution, though, if only out of academic interest. ;)
[18:33] <PeaceMaker> Wickedspawn, have you tried turning power saving off?
[18:33] <Dr_Willis_TCL> os-prober can get very annoying at times when it finds 5+ differnt OS's you happen to have on your portable flashdrive+usb hard drive, and so on,.
[18:34] <Dr_Willis_TCL> [4-tea-2],  the other fix's ive sene would be editing the os-prober script with some if/then/ type of  exceptions
[18:34] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis_TCL: if I knew how os-prober identifies a OS, I could just remove that bit of information for the old Win.
[18:34] <Dr_Willis_TCL> i wasthinking its just a rather complex bash script.. check it out.
[18:34] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis_TCL: ah, os-prober is just a script stanza? Then I'll find out. UTSL.
[18:35] <manue> hello
[18:35] <PeaceMaker> It could be the wirless and its driver too. http://forums.techguy.org/networking/828207-wireless-internet-connection-lost-only.html
[18:35] <Wickedspawn> PeaceMaker: it is off... I just have it set to dim the screen and to blank it after idling.
[18:36] <jabba> hello, i am searching a detailed and _up-to-date_ how to on configuring vncserver to display gdm on login. Everything one can find on google is not appliable to ubuntu >=10.04
[18:36] <PeaceMaker> Wickedspawn, anyway, you are not alone, see link above.
[18:36] <skullboy> someone explain this line "timings 12714 128 32 16 4 128 4"
[18:38] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis_TCL: the magicke is happening in an ELF binary.
[18:38] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis_TCL: "apt-get source os-prober" will be my friend.
[18:38] <mk> whenever I plug in a new landline, I have to type sudo dhclient eth0 to get access. how do I make ubuntu set this up automatically
[18:39] <Dr_Willis_TCL> skullboy,  you are refering to xorg.conf modelines ?
[18:40] <user730> Hi everyone, somebody can to tell me,  into the squid, what is difference between url_regex and dstdom_regex?
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[18:40]  * Dr_Willis_TCL runs and hides from framebuffers.. such a good idea.. so.. badly  done.. :()
[18:42] <Delocated> mk --allow-hotplug and auto IFACE#
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[18:42] <Dr_Willis_TCL> well good luck. Its bed time for the Dr.
[18:43] <user730> Hi everyone, somebody can to tell me,  into the squid, what is difference between url_regex and dstdom_regex?
[18:45] <Guest95219> Install or not install: that is the question.
[18:45] <basselito> Hello, got an issue with UFW, says "ERROR: Problem running ufw-init" when I did "ufw enable" but it seems to have changed status to active anyway... anyone knows whats up with that??? Is there a better verbose-mode to use? (not according to help)
[18:45] <wildc4rd> evenin
[18:45] <Guest95219> evening.
[18:45] <basselito> Guest95219: Thats deep! ;-)
[18:45] <mk> Delocated: where do I put those?
[18:45] <wsksim> asa
[18:46] <Delocated>  read up: man interfaces
[18:46] <Delocated> allow-hotplug requires you to run dhcpc manually
[18:46] <Delocated> auto IFACE# does not
[18:47] <mk> Delocated: found it, /etc/network/interfaces I think. I've got auto lo\niface lo inet loopback in there atm
[18:47] <mk> will r/lo/eth0 fix this?
[18:47] <Delocated> what is your device name?
[18:47] <wsksim> Asa
[18:47] <Delocated> eth0
[18:48] <mk> dhclient eth0 works, so I'm guessing eth0
[18:49] <bassam> pls help i got a problem
[18:49] <Delocated> sudo echo "auto eth0" >> /etc/network/interfaces
[18:49] <basselito> bassam: Just blurt it out here and we'll see if anyone can help you! :)
[18:50] <bassam> ok i'm trying to download this file
[18:50] <bassam> wget http://www.isecur1ty.org/download/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6.tar.gz
[18:50] <bassam> but when i download it shows this message
[18:50] <bassam> --2011-03-16 02:43:55--  http://www.isecur1ty.org/download/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6.tar.gz
[18:50] <bassam> Resolving www.isecur1ty.org... 74.53.226.138
[18:50] <bassam> Connecting to www.isecur1ty.org|74.53.226.138|:80... connected.
[18:50] <bassam> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[18:50] <bassam> 2011-03-16 02:44:00 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[18:50] <FloodBot2> bassam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <mk> strange, that gives me bash: /etc/network/interfaces: Permission denied
[18:51] <as> głópie pytanie co to za kanał ??
[18:51] <jiltdil>   echo "my password" |  make passwd --clearfrom = - --crypt -md5 | awk '{print $2}'       this is to make md5 password via termainl but something is going wron tell me where is the error in it
[18:51] <ChogyDan> bassam: the url is bad
[18:51] <jiltdil>   echo "my password" |  make passwd --clearfrom = - --crypt -md5 | awk '{print $2}'       this is to make md5 password via termainl but something is going wron tell me where is the error in it
[18:51] <FloodBot2> jiltdil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <Delocated> mk, then become root , then add it
[18:51] <bassam> but i checked with the owner
[18:51] <Delocated> mk there are some files you can not write to as root
[18:51] <bassam> it is workable
[18:51] <mk> Delocated: doesn't sudo root me?
[18:51] <basselito> bassam: 404-messages is standard web-messages for file not found... are you sure you got the address right?
[18:51] <jiltdil>   echo "my password" |  make passwd --clearfrom = - --crypt -md5 | awk '{print $2}'       this is to make md5 password via termainl but something is going wrong tell me where is the error in it
[18:52] <bassam> yes can i give you the address and you check it? i mean the website i will copy it in ubuntu copy and paste web page
[18:52] <bassam> is it ok?
[18:52] <ruan> bassam: i got a 404 on the link
[18:52] <basselito> bassam: tried surfing to that link in my browser... gives me a 404 file not found...
[18:53] <mk> jiltdil: don't paste your question. wait a few mins. if nobody responds, rephrase it
[18:53] <bassam> ok here's the instructions of download and installing the file
[18:53] <bassam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/580714/
[18:53] <bassam> pls check it
[18:54] <Delocated>  jiltdil why so much overhead?
[18:54] <ryuguns1> Hi
[18:54] <ryuguns1> NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~# echo mypass | mkpasswd -m md5 -s
[18:54] <Delocated> $1$K8MKznwI$RDz1qjTtGES3mRw0tF/QL0
[18:54] <ryuguns1> What's a good firstperson shooter for ubuntu?
[18:54] <Incarus6> !help | ryuguns1
[18:55] <Delocated> bassam, the file does not exist on that server. give it up
[18:55] <allan_> hello everyone
[18:55] <kdog> I lost my logout/shutdown/reboot icon next to the clock. How do I get it back?
[18:55] <ChogyDan> bassam: http://wi-feye.za1d.com   try getting it from there
[18:55] <Delocated> do a google search for the file name , and download it from there
[18:55] <ryuguns1> hi
[18:55] <ryuguns1> Okay, sorry about that...
[18:55] <ryuguns1> I need a good first person shooter, anyone know one?
[18:55] <jiltdil> Delocated:thanx
[18:56] <rww> bassam: FloodBot is not sentient. Please ask questions in #ubuntu instead of PM.
[18:56] <basselito> bassam: haha good ol'aircrack... the software isn't around on that server anymore... maybe you can find it somewhere else on the internet.
[18:56] <DystaN> how can I change permission to copy things into created folder in the SYSTEM FILE ???? Ubuntu 10.10 ,
[18:56] <ryuguns1> I'm tired of rebooting just to play sudden attack
[18:56] <ruan> DystaN: sudo cp [file] [destination]
[18:56] <Incarus6> ryuguns1, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=531112 and http://www.ubuntugamer.com/2010/11/five-awesome-native-ubuntu-first-person-shooters-you-may-not-know-about/ btw, you can use wine
[18:56] <donnib> how does one figure out why a custom init.script does not stat at boot but works when i do sudo ./myscript start
[18:56] <Delocated> aircrack-ng ? check the repositories
[18:57] <ohzie> ryuguns1: half life 2
[18:57] <ruan> DystaN: or gksudo nautilus
[18:57] <bassam> ok let me try
[18:57] <mk> Delocated: I changed interfaces to contain only auto eth0. hopefully that fixes things. thanks
[18:57] <allan_> Trying to setup dual monitors with an ati radeon 5700 anyone mind giving me a hand? Much appreciated.
[18:57] <Delocated> mk no!
[18:57] <Delocated> keep what was there
[18:57] <ryuguns1> Okay, thank you Incarus and ohzie.
[18:57] <bassam> ok i downloaded the software
[18:57] <Delocated> mk you need lo
[18:57] <bassam> from the website directly without using wget command
[18:57] <bassam> but how do i install it now?
[18:57] <mk> oh, ok. what's lo?
[18:57] <bassam> i extracted the file
[18:57] <ruan> bassam: follow the rest of the instructions?
[18:57] <bassam> but I dunno how to install it
[18:57] <Delocated> mk just add in the auto eth0
[18:58] <Delocated> localhost
[18:58] <ktwo> hi, i need to copy all files (including hidden ) from one directory to another ( i mean.. really everything) , what command ? is cp -r /newdir enough?
[18:58] <ruan> bassam: downloading was one step
[18:58] <jrib> bassam: please keep your questions and responses on a single line.  What exactly do you want to install?
[18:58] <bassam> ok
[18:58] <maedox_> donnib: look if it left any traces in /var/log/. Add debug statements in it. Or you could paste it here for us to see. There might be some PATH issues.
[18:58] <ohzie> ryuguns1: Just remember, if you play HL2 force it to DX7. DX9 works but DX7 plays a lot smoother and you're less likely to have hardware problems if you're not running a good system.
[18:58] <mk> Delocated: ah. ok, thanks. >> appends, > overwrites?
[18:59] <ryuguns1> I don't even know what that is.
[18:59] <ryuguns1> lol
[18:59] <bassam> I want to install this software wi-feye and i downloaded it from its main website and I extracted it but I dunno how to install it
[18:59] <ruan> bassam: does it come with an executable?
[18:59] <ruan> bassam: eg. .sh
[18:59] <donnib> maedox_: in which log in var/log should i look in ?
[18:59] <bassam> yes there is one .sh file
[18:59] <ruan> bassam: or does it come with instructions
[19:00] <Seppman> good evening,  how to get size of directory on ftp server?
[19:00] <bassam> It comes with instructions as well I followed the instructions but seems nothing happens
[19:00] <maedox_> donnib: boot, messages, syslog at least I guess.
[19:00] <donnib> maedox_: when i do sudo ./daemon-deluge status is says Started so i guess it is started
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> donnib: i wouldn't run deluge with sudo dude
[19:01] <maedox_> donnib: I guess so
[19:01] <donnib> maedox_: maybe the problem is that it gets started to early, the service, needs network connection
[19:02] <DNS777> hey :) some1 knows how to kill a process which doesnt have a PID in hardy? :x
[19:02] <donnib> ActionParsnip: well i know but this is just for test
[19:02] <mhansen> nick arameus
[19:02] <maedox_> donnib: could be, how do you start it?
[19:02] <bassam> can I speak to one of you guys on private?
[19:02] <syn3rgy> I want to Multiseat X with Maverik 10.10 using Gnome (not KDE) is this possible yet?
[19:02] <ruan> DNS777: how could it not have a PID?
[19:02] <bassam> pls
[19:02] <donnib> maedox_: i did this sudo update-rc.d myscript defaults 98 02
[19:02] <gabriel_> hey all, is there a way to delete the main panel ? ubuntu 10.10
[19:02] <DNS777> ruan seems to be a mess up after compile while runnin an app
[19:03] <donnib> maedox_: is there a way to see the order of the services started ?`
[19:03] <ruan> gabriel_: you could remove it by right clicking it, but are you sure you want to do that?
[19:03] <Incarus6> syn3rgy, separated x screens?
[19:03] <maedox_> donnib: i.e: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/
[19:03] <ruan> gabriel_: right click > delete
[19:03] <bassam> My problem still not solved.
[19:03] <Seppman> there must be a way to achieve this, istn't there one?
[19:04] <syn3rgy> Incarus6 in a way. Means that many users can use the same computer and see their own accounts.
[19:04] <ruan> bassam: if you execute the .sh file with a terminal [cd to directory, ./foo.sh] does it work?
[19:04] <bassam> ruan : how can i execute it?
[19:04] <maedox_> donnib: you could look into using upstart instead of init.d scripts. it's supposed to be more flexible with regards to dependencies
[19:05] <donnib> maedox_: if i want to make sure it is at the end how do i do that ?
[19:05] <ruan> bassam: cd to the directory with a terminal first
[19:05] <donnib> maedox_: oh, don't know much about it, i just found this script on the net and i added it
[19:05] <bassam> ruan: so i open the terminal and type what?
[19:05] <gabriel_> ruan, yes, but it's the last panel , and I don't get that option highlighted
[19:05] <maedox_> donnib: put it in /etc/rc.local or /etc/crontab with a line like: @reboot user command
[19:05] <Delocated> bassam, you need to read the instructons for it
[19:06] <Delocated> it does work
[19:06] <Incarus6> syn3rgy, it is similiar. when you use one computer you have to possibility to start several x servers (e.g. dualscreen)
[19:06] <syn3rgy> Incarus6 This is the power of Ubuntu 10.10 using multiseat www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlPhVsFgYe0&feature=related
[19:06] <ruan> gabriel_: hmmm... make it transparent?
[19:06] <donnib> maedox_: so i should copy the script to /etc/rc.local and try reboot to see if that works ? don't i have to remove it from where it is now ?
[19:06] <gabriel_> ruan, yes I did
[19:07] <bassam> I dunno how to execute the file in terminal
[19:07] <Delocated> Does anyone know of a distributed type set up when I could run a command across multipal servers and have it catch when one of the servers exits the command?
[19:07] <ruan> bassam: where is the file?
[19:07] <Seppman> no one here has a script for this? pls hlp me
[19:07] <syn3rgy> Incarus6 Thing that this does not seem to work in the Gnome vertion of Ubuntu. If you look at the video you can see it is using KDE
[19:07] <bullgard> When booting my Maverick computer I obtain on virtual console-1 data  roughly equivalent to the output of '~$ landscape-sysinfo'.  It requests: "Graph this data ana manage this system at http://landscape.canonical.com/ ." Does following this invitation require a fee?
[19:07] <format120> whats a good program to run an E-mail server?
[19:08] <Seppman> format120: postfix
[19:08] <syn3rgy> Incarus6 GDM REALLY sucks
[19:08] <bullgard> s/ana/and/
[19:08] <format120> thanks
[19:08] <Incarus6> syn3rgy, you can use gnome + kdm i think. i found that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[19:08] <Delocated> format120, postfix,sasl,tls,mysql, and some spam filter
[19:08] <format120> thanks Delocated
[19:09] <Seppman> Delocated: why mysql?
[19:09] <bassam> /home/bassam/downloads/wi-feye-v0.5.6/bin
[19:09] <ruan> bassam: ok, type cd /home/bassam/downloads/wi-feye-v0.5.6/bin
[19:09] <bassam> so what to do nexT?
[19:09] <ruan> bassam: in a terminal
[19:09] <bassam> ok
[19:09] <bassam> wait
[19:09] <syn3rgy> Incarus6 OK Ill take a look if I can somehow intergrade the code from KDE with GDM and ConsoleKit
[19:10] <ruan> bassam: then type ./file.sh
[19:10] <Seppman> anyway, does someone think i'd get better support in fedora oder debian?
[19:10] <Delocated> Seppman, smtp auth sasl
[19:10] <ruan> bassam: file being the name of the file with .sh extention
[19:11] <maedox_> donnib: /etc/rc.local is a file. You add the script path before exit in there. `update-rc.d -f deluge-daemon remove` first
[19:11] <Incarus6> syn3rgy, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" should give you a dialog to choose between kdm and gdm (when kdm is installed)
[19:11] <ruan> extension
[19:11] <Delocated> Depends on how many users you plan on holding
[19:11] <Seppman> Delocated: ok, thats an argument
[19:11] <Delocated> Seppman, this is true, you could just leave it at pam
[19:11] <format120> Delocated, so smtp authentification, and sasl are in msql? or you need msql to run them?
[19:11] <Delocated> format, stick with the basics, postfix
[19:11] <syn3rgy> Incarus6  Ill take a look at that. Thx
[19:12] <Delocated> and later you can add in sasl, tls, and whatever else you want
[19:12] <bassam> ok it shows this messages 'bash: cd: /home/bassam/downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin/evilgrade.sh: No such file or directory
[19:12] <bassam> '
[19:12] <Seppman> seems no one can help me. all i wanna do is to get directory size inb FTP. ho to achieve that?
[19:12] <ruan> bassam: you can't start the file with cd
[19:12] <Incarus6> syn3rgy: one thing: video looks like, looks more like dual screen them multiseat
[19:12] <Incarus6> *fake, not like
[19:12] <ruan> bassam: you have to cd to the folder, then ./evilgrade.sh
[19:13] <bassam> ok
[19:13] <Screw> hi all!
[19:13] <bassam> can you type me it?
[19:13] <hiexpo> what command would i use to paste whats in the terminal to pastebinit
[19:13] <ruan> bassam: cd /home/bassam/downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin/
[19:14] <llutz> !pastebinit | hiexpo
[19:14] <nomadiks> hey whats up guys
[19:14] <Incarus6> hiexpo, ctrl+c & ctrl+v ;)
[19:14] <bassam> it shows the same message
[19:14] <bassam> bash: cd: /home/bassam/downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin/: No such file or directory
[19:14] <donnib> maedox_: i messed up the rc.local since i thought that it was a folder so i replaced it with my script, is there something important in it ? :)
[19:14] <Delocated> Seppman, size?
[19:15] <maedox_> donnib: hehe, no, by default it's basically empty.
[19:15] <Seppman> Delocated: size ./ doesnt work
[19:15] <donnib> maedox_: phew...... :) ok, i need to look up on the net the syntax to how to add the script in it
[19:15] <maedox_> donnib: http://pastebin.com/BwE6SGZf
[19:15] <maedox_> that's the default in 10.10
[19:15] <ruan> bassam: then type cd dow[tab] enter, cd Wi[tab] enter, bi[tab] enter
[19:16] <maedox_> donnib: just add the full path to the script/binary you want executed
[19:16] <ruan> cd bi[tab] enter*
[19:16] <hiexpo> Incarus6, what you mean ctrl + c & ctrl + v
[19:16] <Seppman> Delocated: 550 .: not a plain file.
[19:16] <GPatterson55> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Windows 7 Virtual PC, and the installation stalled at retrieving packages
[19:16] <nomadiks> any clue why I can only download around 2Mb when i'm usually connecting at 24 or so with windows, or older versions of ubuntu?
[19:16] <Incarus6> hiexpo, copy + paste, nevermind.
[19:16] <TechniCore> Erm. whenever I try to install anything with apt-get i get some odd error.
[19:16] <TechniCore> Here's the pastebin.
[19:16] <TechniCore> http://pastebin.com/PeTkx84g
[19:16] <ruan> bassam: in short, cd to every folder up to the last one
[19:16] <nomadiks> currently running 10.10, and connecting wirelessly.
[19:16] <ruan> bassam: using tab as autocomplete
[19:17] <GPatterson55> I was forced to turn the Virtual PC off, is Ubuntu attempting to download packages from the internet?
[19:17] <donnib> maedox_: ./etc/daemon-deluge is ok ?
[19:17] <ruan> GPatterson55: did you look at Details?
[19:17] <Seppman> Delocated: seems i'd need some script which puts size on every file and then adds it to a sum
[19:17] <bassam> ok
[19:17] <bassam> thank you
[19:17] <maedox_> donnib: drop the dot
[19:17] <Delocated> dir showsize
[19:17] <GPatterson55> @ruan, I'm using the alternate installation, and I'm kind of new to this, I didn't see any details
[19:17] <donnib> oki
[19:18] <GPatterson55> Just a text install with a progress bar
[19:18] <maedox_> donnib: and why is the executable in /etc/? that's unorthodox :)
[19:18] <TechniCore> Whenever I attempt to install/uninstall anything at all i get this. http://pastebin.com/PeTkx84g
[19:18] <ruan> GPatterson55: oh, alternate
[19:18] <bassam> ok ok
[19:18] <bassam> pls
[19:18] <bassam> i did it correctly
[19:18] <donnib> maedox_: i know, it's just to get it working then i can move it
[19:18] <ruan> GPatterson55: are you able to monitor bandwidth?
[19:18] <hiexpo> what i am tryingto figure out is if i want to paste the output of the terminal to pastbinit
[19:18] <Screw> I have a question: If I use encrypted home and want to reinstall Ubuntu then how can I mount the earlyer encrypted home partition?
[19:18] <TechniCore> ?
[19:18] <ruan> bassam: ok, is it working?
[19:18] <Incarus6> TechniCore, pls paste "ERROR: Build failed. Please review the build log at /tmp/alsa-driver-linuxant.6308.log"
[19:18] <llutz> hiexpo: see what ubottu told you
[19:19] <GPatterson55> No, not at the moment. The install asked to set up a network connection but I told it to skip that. I didn't think it would need to download anything to install
[19:19] <Seppman> Delocated: that does nothing, just says "Transfer complete"
[19:19] <llutz> hiexpo:  .... Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:19] <TechniCore> Incarus6: The log file is one line long, it says this:
[19:19] <TechniCore> make: *** No rule to make target `mrextraproper'.  Stop.
[19:19] <ruan> GPatterson55: it generally doesn't have to
[19:19] <Incarus6> TechniCore, and thats the issue ;)
[19:19] <GPatterson55> @ruan, Would there be another reason why it would just hang at "Retrieving Packages"?
[19:20] <ruan> GPatterson55: i dont know
[19:20] <hiexpo> llutz, got it thanks
[19:20] <TechniCore> Incarus6: What do I do to fix it? I'm relatively new to this.
[19:20] <ruan> GPatterson55: is it possible to cut off internet access from the vm manager?
[19:21] <GPatterson55> @ruan, yeah, I should just try again with no network access? then add it back after install?
[19:21] <ruan> GPatterson55: yeah that should work
[19:21] <joris_> I want to load/require/include a file which is in the same directory as the script but I always get an error
[19:21] <joris_> "no such file to load -- stringutil.rb (LoadError)
[19:21] <joris_> 	from postprocessb.rb:2"
[19:21] <Seppman> Delocated: this is an every day problem, i can't belive that there's no solution
[19:22] <GPatterson55> @ruan, THANKS!!! I'll give it a try
[19:22] <TechniCore> Incarus6, what do you mean?
[19:22] <Incarus6> TechniCore, i never heard something about "mrextraproper" (no results in google), looks like a typo or something. can you paste the original argument which caused that issue (and some lines around)?
[19:22] <Delocated> you can always just do ls -s DIR
[19:22] <Delocated> and have it output it to DIRNAME
[19:22] <Delocated> the read that
[19:23] <Delocated> Depends on what it is you want to do
[19:24] <bassam> ruan : i need your help
[19:24] <Seppman> Delocated: for example there's a big fileserver and i simply want to know how much stuff is in /pub/somedirectory
[19:24] <ruan> bassam: what is the problem now?
[19:24] <btse> du -hs <directory>
[19:24] <TechniCore> Incarus6: If this is what you mean, http://pastebin.com/KU6zhQKC
[19:24] <bassam> ok i went to terminal and typed cd /home/bassam/Downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin
[19:25] <madsj> pm-hibernate refuses to work after an upgrade to 10.10; what's the solution?
[19:25] <ruan> bassam: and?
[19:25] <bassam> and it showed me this message ~/Downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin$
[19:25] <Incarus6> TechniCore, no i meant the file containing that "mrextraproper" command
[19:25] <Seppman> Delocated: of course i could do 'ls -s', but that gives me the size of every file and i am not as good as shell to parse thise list to make cumulative size
[19:26] <TechniCore> Incarus6: The log file is empty except for that one line.
[19:26] <bassam> ruan: ok here you go
[19:26] <bassam> bassam@bassam-XPS-L501X:~$ cd /home/bassam/Downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin
[19:26] <btse> Seppman, try du -hs <directory>
[19:26] <bassam> bassam@bassam-XPS-L501X:~/Downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin$
[19:26] <ruan> bassam: ok, type ./evilgrade.sh
[19:26] <bassam> ok wait
[19:26] <bullgard> madsj: No easy solution. May be you will find a solution in Launchpad with reference to your computer type. --  Otherwise analyze /var/log/kern.log.
[19:26] <Seppman> btse: that doesnt work over FTP
[19:26] <ruan> bassam: or whatever the file's name is
[19:26] <Incarus6> TechniCore, give me a second
[19:27] <jrib> Seppman: so pass the directory to ls (see -d)
[19:27] <jrib> Seppman: (or du -sh)
[19:27] <bassam> it shows this now
[19:27] <bassam> bassam@bassam-XPS-L501X:~$ cd /home/bassam/Downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin
[19:27] <bassam> bassam@bassam-XPS-L501X:~/Downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin$ ./evilgrade.sh
[19:27] <bassam> bash: ./evilgrade.sh: /usr/bin/expect: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[19:27] <FloodBot2> bassam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:28] <bullgard> When booting my Maverick computer I obtain on virtual console-1 data  roughly equivalent to the output of '~$ landscape-sysinfo'.  It requests: "Graph this data ana manage this system at http://landscape.canonical.com/ ." Does following this invitation require a fee?
[19:28] <Seppman> jrib: what do you mean by "pass it to ls" (sorry,, my english is not that good)
[19:28] <jrib> Seppman: ls -sd /some/path
[19:29] <bassam> ruan: it showed me this message after i typed the file's name
[19:29] <bullgard> s/ana/and/
[19:29] <Adam_x> Hi yall.
[19:29] <ruan> bassam: hmm, i cant really help there. it looks like the script's problem
[19:29] <bassam> ok thank you
[19:29] <ruan> bassam: unless it came with instructions
[19:29] <bassam> sorry for disturb you did a lot
[19:29] <bassam> it came with instructions
[19:29] <madsj> bullgard: it says pnp unregistered; could this be a good hint of something?
[19:29] <bassam> can i show you the instructions?
[19:29] <ruan> well, you need to follow the instructions
[19:29] <jrib> Seppman: if you're using ftp, « man ftp » claims to have a "size" command too.  Does that work as you expect on directories?
[19:30] <bassam> ruan: can i show you the instruction with a paste link?
[19:30] <ruan> bassam: ok
[19:30] <skullboy> how do i setup frame buffer
[19:30] <Seppman> jrib: as a said that DOES NOT work on directories
[19:30] <donnib> maedox_: hmm does not work also i still see the daemon when i run ls -l /etc/rc2.d/c
[19:30] <Incarus6> TechniCore, you are mixing up  different repos, didnt u? there is no packages called "alsa-driver-linuxant", and i can install git-core from the original repos easily
[19:31] <jrib> Seppman: ok, note I only read the line before my reply.  I have no idea what you said before that :)
[19:31] <darkkilla> hi... I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 AMD64 (installed long time ago 9.04 and kept upgrading), I'm using LUKS on my disks (except for /boot) and also have a crypted Swap (with random key upon each boot). The thing is: My Kernel is incredibly aggressive when it comes to killing processes... it's really a pain in the ***, because it ("preferred targets") frequently kills Opera and Pidgin
[19:31] <bullgard> madsj: Is the output of pm-hibernate: "pnp unregistered"?
[19:31] <Seppman> jrib: the problem is that i want to get the size of a directory via ftp :-)
[19:31] <jrib> Seppman: does ls -sd directory not work?
[19:31] <donnib> maedox_: i created a new rc.local directly with sudo nano rc.local but maybe i need to set some permissions on it
[19:31] <bassam> ruan: ok here's the instructions http://paste.ubuntu.com/580741/
[19:31] <donnib> before it works
[19:32] <maedox_> donnib: yes, it has to be +x
[19:32] <llutz> donnib: root:root 755
[19:32] <TechniCore> Incarus6: I installed that to make my modem work, and from then on i couldn't install nor uninstall that. Yes I had to add a repo, I don't remember which one.
[19:32] <maedox_> donnib: what he said
[19:32] <Seppman> jrib: it tries to write it to an file on the ftp server (which fails)
[19:32] <maedox_> beat me to it :P
[19:32] <donnib> sudo chmod +x rc.local ?
[19:32] <Delocated> Seppman, Im not sure there is an easy way in ftp. I can do it in perl
[19:32] <jrib> Seppman: what do you mean?
[19:33] <Incarus6> TechniCore, try "sudo aptitude reinstall git-core"
[19:33] <ruan> bassam: the instructions include editing Wi-fEye.py
[19:33] <unifide567865> hi
[19:33] <ruan> bassam: edit it and add the paths to those other tools that it needs
[19:33] <TechniCore> Incarus6: sudo: aptitude: command not found
[19:33] <TechniCore> do you mean apt-get?
[19:34] <Seppman> jrib:  ls -sd /pub ftp: Can't access `/pub': Permission denied
[19:34] <bassam> ruan: but the problem is i'm not even able to extract it, I couldn't extract it
[19:34] <Seppman> Delocated: there is no way, seems so. :-(
[19:34] <ruan> bassam: why?
[19:34] <invitad_> hi there
[19:34] <ruan> bassam: you seemed to have created a folder
[19:34] <invitad_> hi there
[19:35] <TechniCore> Incarus6: there is no command called aptitude and no apt-get operation reinstall
[19:35] <Incarus6> TechniCore, aptitude can fix some things that apt-get can't, i recommend you to install aptitude
[19:35] <ruan> yeah sudo apt-get install aptitude
[19:35] <madsj> bullgard: I haven't noted it down, but I think so
[19:35] <brontosaurusrex> Seppman, checked yafc?
[19:36] <donnib> maedox_: i give up, still won't work :(
[19:36] <MiszczJan> okej
[19:36] <darkkilla> I srsly don't know why my kernel is so aggressive... when I now start opera I can almost bet, that I can at best open one new tab and then the kernel will kill it and when I come home from work, Pidgin often got killed in the middle of the day... or when I get up in the morning... yep, Pidgin is killed...
[19:36] <qknight> hey. i have deleted /etc/ssh/* and then: dpkg --purge ssh; afterwards apt-get install ssh but the directory /etc/ssh is still empty. any idea how i could fix that (it is a debian system but i guess it is very similar to ubuntu)
[19:36] <MiszczJan> i think that ubuntu is crap
[19:36] <maedox_> donnib: odd. is there no installation notes?
[19:36] <MiszczJan> archlinux is better
[19:36] <maedox_> donnib: where did you get it and what is its purpose?
[19:36] <MiszczJan> what U think ?:)
[19:36] <Seppman> brontosaurusrex: didn't know that, doc says this would work. Thank you
[19:36] <TechniCore> Incarus6: same alsa-driver-linuxant error
[19:37] <TechniCore> when installing aptitude
[19:37] <donnib> maedox_: it's a deluge daemon script
[19:37] <donnib> maedox_: i got it from a forum thread, someone did it
[19:37] <bullgard> madsj: Next time you better note down the exact error message. Without an exact error message you are often lost. --  Can you find the error message in /var/log/pm-powersave.log.1?
[19:37] <ruan> !best | MiszczJan
[19:37] <maedox_> donnib: link?
[19:37] <jrib> qknight: openssh-server
[19:38] <donnib> maedox_: what i am trying to achieve is simple to describe, i am trying to start the deluge daemon at boot
[19:38] <donnib> maedox_: 2 sec
[19:38] <donnib> maedox_: http://forum.deluge-torrent.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=32153
[19:38] <maedox_> donnib: I know, I'm just trying to figure out if there might be some dependencies in the script that isn't satisfied on boot. e.g. without your user env.
[19:40] <Incarus6> TechniCore, ah, simple! thats the problem. do you really need "alsa-driver-linuxant"? i think not. try "sudo dpkg -r --force-all alsa-driver-linuxant"
[19:40] <Incarus6> TechniCore, "alsa-driver-linuxant" is causing a dependency hell
[19:41] <TechniCore> Incarus6: Of course, I get the same error while uninstalling it, :(.
[19:41] <ruan> my panels just froze, how do i restart them?
[19:42] <Incarus6> TechniCore, also with --force-all? pls paste exact result
[19:42] <qknight> jrib: thanks that worked but dpkg broke with error 1 as it could not find /etc/ssh (i removed it) one the dpkg --purge step which keeps me wondering
[19:42] <darkkilla> does nobody have a clue what might cause all this problems? I srsly think about installing a Vanilla/Mainline-Kernel...
[19:42] <donnib> maedox_: sent u a link
[19:42] <donnib> maedox_: with the script
[19:42] <qknight> jrib: no it was apt-get install openssh-server which broke
[19:42] <maedox_> donnib: seems simple enough. not sure why it won't work. Did you try putting it in /etc/crontab too?
[19:42] <coz_> hey all
[19:42] <ruan> my panels just froze, how do i restart them?
[19:43] <coz_> ruan,  killall gnome-panel
[19:43] <ruan> ty
[19:43] <maedox_> donnib: @reboot root /etc/deluge-daemon >/tmp/deluged.log 2>&1
[19:43] <TechniCore> Incarus6:  http://pastebin.com/e8czXnBb
[19:43] <maedox_> donnib: then you'll get info in /tmp/deluged.log about what happens
[19:44] <donnib> maedox_: no, should i add it at the end ?
[19:44] <maedox_> donnib: no harm in trying
[19:44] <swiggy> bah - random Q -- i was in terminal / ssh / emacs and i accidentally closed what i was working on w/o saving it but it is not 'closed' yet its still an open process - how do i reopen it? i have checked the ~ file but its not been updated yet
[19:44] <jrib> swiggy: no screen or tmux?
[19:45] <swiggy> im in terminal
[19:45] <donnib> maedox_: i put the exact line above, doing a reboot now
[19:45] <jrib> swiggy: no screen or tmux?
[19:45] <will_> Does anyone know how to hotkey VLC to react to the scroll-bar on a mouse for changing audio levels?
[19:45] <jrib> qknight: broke how?  pastebin
[19:45] <swiggy> i guess not i dont know what tmux is
[19:45] <Incarus6> TechniCore, um.. thats a serios problem, give me a second
[19:45] <jrib> swiggy: no screen?
[19:45] <jrib> swiggy: if not, emacs might have it's own special setup, check the emacs channel
[19:45] <donnib> maedox_: how do i check if it's running ?
[19:46] <qknight> jrib: think i fixed.
[19:46] <bullgard> ruan: A panel freeze would show up in the '~$ ps ax' process list as to what kind of block it is. If it is 100% CPU in the top, then thatwould be harder to track. But if it is in the D state in ps then you could  probably strace it to find what ist is doing.
[19:46] <maedox_> donnib: ps -ef|grep deluge should do the trick
[19:46] <qknight> what tools are there to configure a server? and is dpkg --configure and dpkg-reconfigure the same thing?
[19:46] <raven> how to disable writing .trash on external disks?
[19:46] <sodapiggy> #norge
[19:47] <donnib> maedox_: testUser     2114  2080  0 12:46 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto deluge
[19:47] <bullgard> When booting my Maverick computer I obtain on virtual console-1 data  roughly equivalent to the output of '~$ landscape-sysinfo'.  It requests: "Graph this data ana manage this system at http://landscape.canonical.com/ ." Does following this invitation require a fee?
[19:47] <donnib> maedox_: means it's running ?
[19:47] <maedox_> donnib: no, sorry, try: ps -ef|grep [d]eluge
[19:47] <Incarus6> TechniCore, are you sure your system will run after reboot? oO try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure dpkg"
[19:47] <maedox_> that's just the grep process, it's not running
[19:47] <maedox_> anything in /tmp/deluged.log?
[19:48] <donnib> maedox_: yup, says that i have to use start, stop,restart etc
[19:48] <donnib> maedox_: i guess i have to put start after the line in rc.local
[19:48] <maedox_> donnib: heh, yeah, good point, you have to add start, yes.
[19:49] <TechniCore> Incarus6: nothing happened
[19:49] <maedox_> donnib: I thought you got that covered.
[19:49] <donnib> maedox_: sorry
[19:49] <jolicloud> does anyone here know what joli OS is?
[19:49] <TechniCore> jolicloud: i do
[19:49] <jrib> jolicloud: not an ubuntu question
[19:49] <jolicloud> TechniCore: can i program on it?
[19:49] <Incarus6> TechniCore, no error= successful. i think i know why you cant remove it. you have to remove that package by hand
[19:50] <jolicloud> jrib: itll only be a second?
[19:50] <jolicloud> *....
[19:50] <jrib> jolicloud: use #ubuntu-offtopic or whatever the jolicloud channel is instead please
[19:50] <Seppman> i'll shoot myself in the head with my pumpgun. that doesn't work either. it can recursively show sizes of files, but not cumulative
[19:50] <jolicloud> TechniCore:
[19:51] <TechniCore> jolicloud: I said I know what it is, that's all. You should ask elsewhere =.=
[19:52] <TechniCore> Incarus6: And, how do I do that? :P
[19:52] <Joshua-> greetings everyone
[19:52] <Joshua-> i cannot find it online (well) and forgot the ps aux command, that also leaves it open instead of close... within the terminal
[19:52] <Joshua-> would anyone remember that flag?
[19:53] <Incarus6> TechniCore, try "sudo apt-get purge alsa-driver-linuxant"
[19:53] <Joshua-> --help ++thc and been a while back in nix :P
[19:53] <weia> Joshua-: top?
[19:53] <Joshua-> thanks in advance
[19:53] <Joshua-> oh no
[19:53] <Joshua-> please dont tell me that was it
[19:53] <Joshua-> i know that one :P
[19:53] <Joshua-> i love you
[19:54] <JediMaster> can anyone suggest a reliable way to test network bandwidth over an internal network? I've tried netperf between two ubuntu 10.10 boxes and can only get 1.3Mbps on the best run on a 1Gbps network (one cable into a swtich, then another into the other machine)
[19:54] <TechniCore> Incarus6: Same error o.o
[19:54] <Ameen> plz can anyone send me .mp4 player for backtrack 4
[19:55] <TechniCore> Incarus6: Still, want a pastebin?
[19:55] <Joshua-> is the router sure to be able to duplex
[19:55] <Seppman> i'll kill myself
[19:55] <Delocated> SeppoJ, I have a way to do it in bash
[19:55] <Incarus6> Seppman, that wont fix the problem
[19:55] <will_> What GPU acceleration method does Ubuntu use now? XAA, EXA or UXA?
[19:55] <Delocated> err
[19:55] <JediMaster> Joshua-, yes, ethtool also shows both interfaces (one on each machine that is) are on 1000Mbps full duplex
[19:55] <rick890> !list
[19:56] <webczat> Hey, how ubuntu installer encrypts the home directory?
[19:56] <Delocated> Seppman, I have a way to do it in bash
[19:57] <Incarus6> TechniCore, try "sudo apt-get moo"  and "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[19:57] <Joshua-> the only thing i know to advise is check the netwowrk sometimes it turns off the higher speed... windows veteran
[19:57] <weia> webczat: ecryptfs
[19:57] <webczat> weia: is it better than dmcrypt?
[19:58] <Delocated> root@<REMOVED>:~# sh getsize.sh
[19:58] <Delocated> size of /etc is: total 40M
[19:58] <TechniCore> Incarus6: Lol @ moo, and autoremove gives the same error :(
[19:58] <Incarus6> at least moo is working
[19:58] <delac> any music player for ubuntu that has adjustable fade in/out at pause, stop and song change?
[19:59] <donnib> maedox_: it works now, crontab is the one that works
[19:59] <donnib> maedox_: thx for your help, now to NFS problems :D
[20:00] <gribouille> hi
[20:00] <weia> webczat: no
[20:00] <llutz> delac: what's wrong with "du -sxh /etc"?
[20:00] <gribouille> when I type mount, I get the following line (among others) : /dev/sr1 on /media/U3 System type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=500,gid=500,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500). someone know what it means ?
[20:00] <madsj> bullgard: will do that tonight; problem is just that I have to shut off the computer in the ungentle way when I do this
[20:00] <TechniCore> Incarus6: So, reinstall ubuntu? D:
[20:01] <madsj> I'm not really sure which line exactly would indicate the problem in pm-*.log
[20:01] <bullgard> madsj: Good luck!
[20:01] <Incarus6> TechniCore, i found a lot of ppl with the same issue. download and install http://www.linuxant.com/alsa-driver/archive/alsa-driver-linuxant-1.0.23.1/alsa-driver-linuxant_1.0.23.1_all.deb.zip
[20:01] <llutz> gribouille: its a list of options used when mounting that cd
[20:01] <delac> llutz: you actually ment that message for me or...?
[20:01] <gribouille> llutz, but I don't have a CD in my CD tray
[20:01] <llutz> delac: sry no
[20:01] <Incarus6> TechniCore, then "cd /usr/lib/alsa-driver-linuxant && sudo make uninstall"
[20:02] <bullgard> When booting my Maverick computer I obtain on virtual console-1 data  roughly equivalent to the output of '~$ landscape-sysinfo'.  It requests: "Graph this data and manage this system at http://landscape.canonical.com/ ." Does following this invitation require a fee?
[20:02] <maedox_> donnib: cool :D
[20:03] <will_> Does anyone know where i can get decent Intel video drivers?
[20:03] <will_> Or possible point me to the Intel IRC channel.
[20:03] <Jeroen> Any idea how to make the keyboard in Ubuntu behave like on OS X?
[20:04] <Jeroen> You can map ctrl to the Meta key... But I'm looking for a way to map alt+tab to cmd+tab too.
[20:04] <gribouille> wgere are mounts logged ?
[20:04] <gribouille> how can I know when a device was mounted ?
[20:05] <moller> hm jeroen you can try swap the keyboard model
[20:05] <moller> System > Settings > Keyboard > layouts
[20:06] <maedox_> gribouille: /var/log/messages
[20:06] <Jeroen> moller: yes, that lets me map ctrl to cmd... but I don't see a way of telling it to do an alt+tab when doing cmd+tab. I need the OS to understand that the sequence ctrl+tab is actually al+tab.
[20:09] <gribouille> I have the following line in /var/log/messages : Mar 15 20:20:32 station kernel: [40521.397198] scsi 9:0:0:1: CD-ROM
[20:09] <gribouille> but I didn't put anything in the cd tray
[20:10] <maedox_> gribouille: so, nothing to worry about then.
[20:10] <trism> Jeroen: are you using alt+tab for anything other then switching between windows? otherwise might be easier to set a new combination in System/Preferences/Keyboard Shortcuts
[20:11] <moonster> ciaoo
[20:11] <Jeroen> trism: no, only switching between windows.
[20:11] <moonster> !list
[20:11] <moonster> sorry
[20:11] <Jeroen> trism: got it. Thanks!
[20:12] <grom> can anyone tell me, why do i have to import the music all anew, each time i restart rhytmbox? (the drive from whych i imported it is otherwise udes by windows)
[20:13] <danryan> hey folks, I'm looking for a package/executable that provides the swap usage of procs
[20:13] <gribouille> I plug my Sandisk USB key. Two devices are created : /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sr1. what does it mean ?
[20:13] <danryan> does such a thing exist?
[20:13] <donnib> how much is the difference in performance between NFS and CIFS ? is it wort fighting for NFS ?
[20:14] <dlynes> donnib, define fight
[20:14] <SwedeMike> gribouille: your sandisk emulates a cdrom as well as the actual device.
[20:14] <gribouille> SwedeMike, why ?
[20:14] <dlynes> donnib, if you mean fight as in fight politics with IT, I'd say probably not
[20:14] <donnib> dlynes: well right now i have CIFS working to my NAS and i get 8-9mb/s and i can't get NFS to work so i wondered wheter NFS might perform better
[20:14] <SwedeMike> gribouille: guess they want to install drivers on windows systems or something. ask them.
[20:14] <Delocated> danryan, https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/56929/
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> donnib: are you transfering huge files or small stuff like images and audio tracks?
[20:15] <dlynes> donnib, NFS has many more security holes, and I'm not that sure it's any more efficient than samba
[20:15] <dlynes> donnib, the biggest advantage to NFS is that it preserves unix file permissions and ownerships
[20:15] <Delocated> danryan, or http://dev.gentoo.org/%7Er0bertz/per-process-swap-usage.patch
[20:16] <donnib> ActionParsnip: i will be transferring GB of data
[20:16] <Delocated> start in that area
[20:16] <dlynes> donnib, and nfs is probably better documented from a unix/linux standpoint
[20:16] <dlynes> donnib, especially for optimizing
[20:16] <danryan> Delocated: thanks, was looking for a util like vmstat without using /proc/$pid/status or /proc/$pid/smaps
[20:16] <gribouille> SwedeMike, when I plus the key, how does ubuntu know what devices to create ?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> donnib: how many Gb per file?
[20:17] <donnib> dlynes: ok, so until now it seems CIFS is ok, i did not mention but i have various clients using the data from the NAS, i have windows, linux, mac os so maybe CIFS is the best choice
[20:17] <donnib> ActionParsnip: 4.7 gb or 700 mb
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> donnib: its only small stuff then, you should be fine
[20:18] <donnib> ActionParsnip: oki, thx
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> donnib: there are settings you can add in /etc/sysctl.conf to increase the ram used for network buffering which can make life nicer
[20:20] <skullboy> how do i set up frame buffer
[20:20] <Delocated> danryan, pcp / pmstat
[20:21] <donnib> ActionParsnip: interesting, any link to what i should be looking into ?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> donnib: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html
[20:23] <skullboy> how do i set up frame buffer
[20:23] <KramB> For some reason Compiz does not work with my GeForce 8400 GS.  Though others it has, why is that?  I would like to use it.
[20:23] <donnib> ActionParsnip: thx, will look into it
 do you have the video drivers
[20:23] <KramB> Skullboy: Yes sir.
[20:24] <KramB> Skullboy: Though there are too version, I took the recommened on.
[20:24] <KramB> two*
 what problem are experiencing
[20:24] <drc> KramB, define "not work"
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> donnib: that's for a system with a bit of ram to spare. Can also add: vm.swappiness=0     to the same file so your OS only uses swap if absolutely necessary
[20:25] <dlynes> donnib, yeah...I would stick with CIFS, personally, then
[20:25] <KramB> Skullboy/drc: The effects like when you move your window it wobbles, mine does not wobble.
[20:25] <dlynes> donnib, it's a much more compatible solution for all your windows users
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | KramB
[20:25] <donnib> dlynes; yeah that's what i thought
[20:25] <dlynes> donnib, and as I had mentioned, it doesn't have as many security holes as nfs
 what desktop envelopment do you use
[20:26] <donnib> dlynes: cool, thx for the advice
[20:26] <KramB> I use Xfce.  Xubuntu 10.10
[20:26] <dlynes> donnib, security's important when you have all those evil windows trolls running around
[20:26] <donnib> dlynes: :D
 i think thats why'
[20:27] <drc> KramB: With XFCE, how did you enable Compiz?
[20:27] <drc> KramB, As far as I know, COmpiz is GNOME only, won't work with XFCE
[20:27] <aeon-ltd> drc: xfce is the environment, when running compiz it takes over xfce's window manager
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> KramB: have you installed the nvidia driver?
[20:28] <aeon-ltd> drc: so really you'd basically be using xfce software inc panel with compiz window manager
[20:28] <drc> aeon-ltd: Ah, so it does work with XFCE?
[20:28] <skullboy> drc: and kde compiz works with kde
[20:28] <KramB> Action: Yes I have the recommened driver installed.  drc: Are you sure?  I was following a guide for Xubuntu.
[20:28] <aeon-ltd> drc: it wouldn't be xfce anymore but yes
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Drc: you can use compiz on any DE. Its not gnome only
[20:29] <drc> So I have just learned
[20:29] <drc> Not that I want it :)
 ohh duh did you type compiz --replace in the console
[20:30] <KramB> skullboy: Yes sir, I do believe I did.
[20:30] <andersffs> Hello! I was messing around with ircd-hybrid on my homeserver and i think i made of written "sudo apt-get autoremove" and now when i want to install something it just says that there no dependencies installed. So my question it how do i install all the standard packages and/or make "apt-get install" download them automaticly? Thanks!
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> KramB: run: sudo apt-get -y install compizconfig-settings-manager   and you will install compiz
[20:31] <KramB> Action/drc: If you two will please wait a moment could I have you look at the guide I followed?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> andersffs: try: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:31] <andersffs> ActionParsnip: Wont work :(
[20:31] <andersffs> ActionParsnip: Also rm -r * in the archive and cache
[20:31] <drc> KramB: I'm out of this...my ignorance is exceed only by my ability to show it :)
[20:31] <gedO> Hello. Does someone here programs with Anjuta IDE????
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> andersffs: can you pastebin the output please
[20:32] <andersffs> sure
[20:32] <andersffs> 1 sec
[20:32] <KramB> drc: Fair enough.  Seems no one loves the Xfce desktop. :/
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> andersffs: sudo apt-get clean    does that for you
[20:33] <drc> KramB: it's not the xfce part...I also use Xubuntu
[20:33] <andersffs> ActionParsnip: okay, didn't know :)
[20:33] <KramB> drc: Was kidding around, but okie dokie.
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Kramb: did you run the command I gave?
[20:34] <andersffs> ActionParsnip: Im currently running "sudo apt-get upgrade", so i think that might take a while.
[20:34] <KramB> Action: Could you hold on a moment?  I did all of this and it still not work (a week ago I did this)  I have just now had time to report the problem.  I will show you the guide I followed?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> andersffs: ok let it run
[20:35] <KramB> Action: If you were to scan over this: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/.
[20:35] <KramB> Action: This is what I followed for Compiz.
[20:35] <aeon-ltd> !tab | KramB
[20:35] <KramB> What?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Kramb: i gotta jet. Just install the package, press Alt+F2 and run: compiz --replace
[20:36] <KramB> Already tried that...
[20:36] <kad_> hi i'm trying to compile squid, always it output: make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. why ? thx
[20:38] <kad_> i think when i did ./configure --prefix=/usr it works
[20:38] <gedO> Does someone is programming on Ubuntu with c++?
[20:39] <itaylor57> kad_: why are you compiling squid its in the repos
[20:39] <TechniCore> Hmm. Terminal and Synaptic give me grey screens and do nothing, after installing aptitude. Help?
[20:39] <emilos> hello, how can i get my pc to go to a boot loader (grub??) instead of launching directly into Ubuntu 10.10? i have a windows hdd and i would like to swithc between them without having to go into bios config , thanks!
[20:39] <saintbasil> emilos: it will automatically do that for you if you install ubuntu after you installed windows
[20:39] <kad_> itaylor57, back when i do make install again, well i want to enable "--enable-wccp", when i install it via apt, it doesn't enable wccp
[20:40] <aeon-ltd> emilos: hold Esc during boot, to set this permanently it involves editing grub configsd
[20:40] <kad_> itaylor57,  do you have any idea how to enable it if i install it from: apt ? thanks
[20:40] <emilos> they are one two separate hdds
[20:40] <cancuengt> A friend here mover all hist /bin to another location and it does not have mv to restore it. Any ideas what to do?
[20:40] <gonssal> hi
[20:40] <TechniCore> Terminal and Synaptic give me grey screens and do nothing, after installing aptitude. Help?
[20:41] <gonssal> anyone knows if its possible to get unallocated space out of an extended partition using gparted?
[20:41] <aeon-ltd> cancuengt: boot into a live environment to move it back, or run mv from its new location
[20:41] <shlm> hi thre
[20:41] <drc> KramB: The instructions for this are for versions prior to 9.04 (at least two years old).  They still might work, but again, maybe not.  I'd really look for more uptodate instructions (place a time restriction in google :)
[20:42] <shlm> how to change username by cli ?
[20:42] <llutz> shlm: man usermod
[20:42] <KramB> drc: I'll look around I guess, thank you.
[20:43] <bullgard> When booting my Maverick computer I obtain on virtual console-1 data  roughly equivalent to the output of '~$ landscape-sysinfo'.  It requests: "Graph this data and manage this system at http://landscape.canonical.com/ ." Does following this invitation require a fee?
[20:43] <andersffs> heres my output when i tries to install ircd-hybrid: http://pastebin.com/G87xZxRU
[20:43] <drc> KramB: again, you might ask in #xubuntu
[20:43] <KramB> I did.
[20:43] <llutz> bullgard: better ask canonical directly
[20:43] <KramB> Xubuntu is never active.
[20:44] <Tetsuo55> anyone know if there are plans to backport the performance patch from kernel .38?
[20:44] <drc> KramB:  Fair enough.  Seems no one loves the Xfce desktop. :/
[20:44] <bullgard> llutz: How can I ask Canonical directly?
[20:44] <KramB> drc:  I see what you did there. :P
[20:44] <llutz> bullgard: canonical.com - contact or supprt
[20:45] <andersffs> Hello! I was messing around with ircd-hybrid on my homeserver and i think i made of written "sudo apt-get autoremove" and now when i want to install something it just says that there no dependencies installed. So my question it how do i install all the standard packages and/or make "apt-get install" download them automaticly? Thanks! Heres my output: http://pastebin.com/G87xZxRU
[20:45] <cancuengt> aeon-ltd: In the new location it cannot be run
[20:45] <LukasB> Hello everybody! Can anybody please give me advice which source code editor is good to use in ubuntu? I used Notepad++ in Windows where I came from yesterday and I am not very experienced....
[20:45] <shlm> thanks llutz
[20:45] <cancuengt> aeon-ltd: Were looking for a live enviroment
[20:45] <cancuengt> thanks
[20:45] <aeon-ltd> cancuengt: even with a full path and chmod'ed?
[20:45] <bullgard> llutz: I dont think that thisl little comprehension problem of mine justifies to ask Canonical for support.
[20:45] <Polah> LukasB: For what type of code?
[20:46] <llutz> LukasB: vim, emacs, gedit
[20:46] <LukasB> Polah: mainly css
[20:46] <Polah> LukasB, get Bluefish
[20:46] <skullboy> is there a such thing as virtual frame buffer
[20:47] <LukasB> Polah: Okay I have a look, thanks :)
[20:47] <llutz> bullgard: if you click the link you mentioned and read "Register for your free trial of Ubuntu Advantage"  it sounds like you have to pay (sooner or later). but thats offtopic here
[20:47] <LukasB> llutz: thanks for helping, llutz
[20:47] <Polah> LukasB, sudo apt-get bluefish
[20:48] <bullgard> skullboy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-monitor
[20:48] <QualmQuandary> http://www.rpgcodex.net/gallery/3929.png
[20:49] <LukasB> Polah: What does sudo apt-get mean?
[20:49] <QualmQuandary> dur ubuntu werst boogen gummi?
[20:49] <bullgard> llutz: I've got the same impression. --  Thank you.
[20:49] <Da|Mummy> how do i enable ssl connections?
 im not trying to set up multiple monitors im trying to get qingy working
[20:50] <bullgard> LukasB: That is a Linux / Debian command.
[20:50] <bullgard> skullboy: I do not know anything about qingy.
[20:51] <LukasB> bullgard: Ah cool thanks...
[20:51] <khrm> LukasB Sudo means u want to run the command as administrator( root) and apt-get install is a command to install a package from net. Use: man command-name for more info.
 i need frame buffer but my video card is incompatible of frame buffer
[20:52] <bullgard> skullboy: If it is really incompatible then is bad luck for you.
 that is why i want virtual frame buffer
[20:53] <gonssal> anyone managed to get unallocated space in a disk drive out of an extended partition using gparted?
[20:54] <phonex01> hello guys i need a good software for ubuntu to extract sound from video files ?
[20:55] <bullgard> gonssal: Sure. That's one of the jobs which GParted accomplishes.
[20:55] <phonex01> hello guys i need a good software for ubuntu to extract sound from video files ?
[20:55] <Da|Mummy> how do i enable ssl connections?
[20:55] <dryicebomb> phonex01, this can be done in avidemux
[20:55] <phonex01> thank you
[20:56] <stanman246> hi guys, i've got me a new disk, which i need to create a partition table
[20:56] <stanman246> should that be msdos?
[20:56] <guntbert> stanman246: the partition table: yes
[20:57] <LukasB> khrm: So I enter "sodu apt-get bluefish" in the terminal?
[20:58] <guntbert> LukasB: sudo apt-get install bluefish
[20:58] <dryicebomb> Lukasb, type sudo apt-get install bluefish
[20:58] <MarconM> guntbert, o que é bluefish
[20:58] <MarconM> guntbert, para que serve
[20:58] <stanman246> thanks guntbert
[20:58] <bullgard> Da|Mummy: enable or estabish? 'man ssh': " ssh connects and logs into the specified hostname (with optional user name)."
[20:59] <guntbert> stanman246: you're welcome :-)
[20:59] <bullgard> +l
[20:59] <stanman246> ext4 for just data storage?
[20:59] <LukasB> dryicebomb: Thanks, that works
[20:59] <guntbert> !br | MarconM
[20:59] <Da|Mummy> bullgard, i cant connect to a ssl connection on usenet
[20:59] <khrm> LukasB to know more about apt-get and what it can do type in terminal: man apt-get
[21:00] <Da|Mummy> find out that i need to enable ssl connections in ubuntu
[21:00] <MarconM> ubottu, sorry man ... i didnt know
[21:00] <gonssal> bullgard sadly you are wrong
[21:00] <LukasB> khrm: uiii a miracle.. :) Thanks!
[21:00] <gonssal> it's not possible without deleting the extended partition apparently
[21:01] <Da|Mummy> ok then whats the right answe gonssal ?
[21:01] <gonssal> you have to delete the extended partition and recreate it
[21:01] <gonssal> with the new size you want
[21:01] <LukasB> Cant somebody switch on conference mode? Or is it only me getting all the joining and leaving messages that makes irc run so fast?
[21:01] <guntbert> MarconM: bluefish is a programming editor
[21:01] <Da|Mummy> sorry wrong question, nvm, i need help with ssl
[21:02] <guntbert> LukasB: you switch to conference mode yourself
[21:02] <Jordan_U> gonssal: How have you determined that GParted can't do this?
[21:02] <hihihi100> i cannot open a zip file, I suspect it is due to compatibility issues, can anyone help me confirm? http://paste.ubuntu.com/580775/
[21:02] <LukasB> uh... how?
[21:02] <bullgard> LukasB: My Chatzilla just operates in this channel in conference mode.
[21:02] <bastidrazor> Da|Mummy: ask usenet how to connect to their server with ssl. that is not a ubuntu problem.
[21:02] <guntbert> LukasB: what client?
[21:02] <ks07> Hey guys, anyone know how to allow the www-data user (apache) use screen?
[21:02] <gonssal> Jordan_U: I tried it for like 30 mins, then googled it and everyone came to the same conclusion
[21:02] <Da|Mummy> bastidrazor, it seems to be a problem with linux, you have o manually enable ssl in linux
[21:03] <MarconM> guntbert, i wanna a program for to make website
[21:03] <MarconM> komposer is the best
[21:03] <MarconM> ?
[21:03] <LukasB> yeah i used chatzilla until yesterday... i use empathy today
[21:03] <ks07> MarconM, kompozer is good for me ^^
[21:03] <gonssal> the only thing you can do without deleting the extended partition is create/expand partitions inside the extended one
[21:03] <gonssal> but not reducing it
[21:03] <MarconM> ks07, but how i can to make a " render "
[21:03] <guntbert> MarconM: bluefish is for that too, of course (and there is never *the best* for anything) :-))
[21:03] <Incarus6> hihihi100, zip file is broken
[21:04] <MarconM> guntbert, auehaueauhuahauha.... yes
[21:04] <guntbert> !info bluefish > MarconM
[21:04] <MarconM> ks07, do you know aptana studio
[21:04] <ks07> never heard of it sorry
[21:04] <delac> any music player for ubuntu that has adjustable fade in/out at pause, stop and song change?
[21:04] <Bruce_Wayne> sudo apt-get remove package_name doesn't free up all disk space.... how to remove a package and get a all disk space free like before/
[21:04] <MarconM> search it
[21:05] <bastidrazor> delac: rhythmbox
[21:05] <k3ops> --purge
[21:05] <MarconM> ks07, i think is for web design too ....
[21:05] <LukasB> guntbert: I use empathy first time today
[21:05] <hihihi100> incarus, is there any way i can fix that file?
[21:05] <delac> bastidrazor: it doesnt let you adjust the fade length
[21:05] <Polah> hihihi100, it says CRC failed for "Train/GP38/Run6.wav" so I'd assume that file is bad, everything before that is fine. Try to extract everything except that file
[21:05] <Polah> Delac: Rhythmbox
[21:06] <Polah> Comes by default on 10.10 at least
[21:06] <delac> Polah: it doesnt let you adjust the fade length
[21:06] <Bruce_Wayne> k3ops: I installed wild-shine-theme which took about 21 Mb after installation.. now even if I do give remove/purge command it says only ~200 KB will be freed!!
[21:06] <MarconM> ks07, http://www.aptana.com/
[21:06] <bullgard> Bruce_Wayne: apt-get purge package-name
[21:06] <ks07> MarconM, wow, looks very professional from the website, I thought it was closed source for a minute there xD
[21:06] <elFidel> delac: clementine lets you define a face duration
[21:06] <elFidel> *fade*
[21:06] <nictrasavios> Hello my brothers, could one of you direct me to the IRC channel responsible for wine? or atleast someone who can help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/580776/
[21:06] <MarconM> ok
[21:06] <genii-around> nictrasavios: #winehq
[21:06] <nictrasavios> genii-around, thank you very much :)
[21:06] <Polah> delac, Edit > Preferences > Playback > Crossfade duration?
[21:06] <MarconM> i have installed a game on format " .bin "
[21:06] <delac> elFidel: hmm, havent heard of that before. going to take a look. thanks!
[21:06] <MarconM> how i can uninstall
[21:06] <Incarus6> hihihi100, u can try that proprietary tool http://www.essentialdatatools.com/products/objectfixzip/
[21:07] <MarconM> just to delet a folder
[21:07] <MarconM> the folder
[21:07] <delac> Polah: doesnt affect the fade length, onnly crossfade between songs
[21:07] <Bruce_Wayne> bullgard: I installed wild-shine-theme which took about 21 Mb after installation.. now even if I do give remove/purge command it says only ~200 KB will be freed!!
[21:07] <sudipta> is there a XCode version in linux?
[21:07] <CassioCosta> how remove PPA repository ?
[21:07] <elFidel> sudipta: xcode is apple specific
[21:08] <nictrasavios> sudipta, nope :( i tried in vain for weeks to get it work.
[21:08] <k3ops> Bruce_Wayne: have you try apt-get autoremove
[21:08] <danny66RO> incarus6??
[21:08] <CassioCosta> how remove PPA repositoryfrom terminal?
[21:08] <Incarus6> pm
[21:08] <bastidrazor> delac: Preferences > Playback > Crossfade :that is what you're looking for
[21:08] <arand> CassioCosta: Delete from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[21:08] <genii-around> CassioCosta: They are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d  directory.
[21:08] <bastidrazor> Polah: uh, you beat me to it.
[21:08] <guntbert> LukasB: I don't know about empathy, for other clients see: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[21:08] <bullgard> Bruce_Wayne: You probably pulled in other packages too.
[21:09] <CassioCosta> arand: ok
[21:09] <coz_> sudipta,  have you looked into  eclipse  or netbeans or any of the other IDE's available for linux?
[21:09] <delac> bastidrazor: does not affect the fade length, only crossfade betweeen songs
ok..no linux version...but can it be installed in linux?
[21:09] <Bruce_Wayne> k3ops: Yes, it says now 23 MB will be freed!! Thanks... So do you know difference between all this?
[21:09] <Polah> Bruce_Wayne: Run sudo apt-get autoremove afterwards to remove dependencies installed with it
[21:09] <bastidrazor> delac: yes i can see your responses to others.
[21:09] <bonny> How can i play wormux online
[21:09] <coz_> sudipta,  there is  code::blocks
[21:10] <nictrasavios> sudipta: nope :( sorry. i tried myself for WEEKS. and got nothing.
[21:10] <k3ops> Bruce_Wayne: also you can do apt-get clean or autoclean :) man apt
[21:10] <coz_> bonny, mmm let me check
[21:10] <Bruce_Wayne> Polah: I don't understand 2nd part of your advice about dependencies
yeah....but i have had a chance to use Xcode....frnd's lappy...and it was awesome
[21:10] <coz_> bonny,  not sure actually ,, I have never played that
[21:10] <stef__> Hello, i'm having a big problem! i have a cron job that shut down my server when itt's just booted! is there a way to start my ubuntu without loading cron jobs ?
[21:10] <CassioCosta> genii-around: ok
[21:11] <Polah> Bruce_Wayne, when you install a package it installs dependencies alongside it; other packages that it needs to run
[21:11] <opdynamiks> any quick way to configure the alt-tab switcher to ALWAYS appear on the same monitor on multimonitor setup? (Compiz)
[21:11] <guntbert> bonny: what has that to do with ubuntu support?
[21:11] <coz_> sudipta,  ah ok,, I have not used it ,, did you google  linux  alternative  xcode
[21:11] <nictrasavios> sudipta: im a dev for cydia, and for the app store, so i wanted this badly. in the end i suckered up and just got a hackintosh. i shall say no more on this subject since this is a ubuntu channel.
[21:11] <k3ops> Bruce_Wayne: its delete the downloaded paket which installed
[21:11] <Polah> When you do apt-get remove x it only removes the package you selected to remove, and not any dependencies installed with it
[21:12] <stef__> Hello, i'm having a big problem! i have a cron job that shut down my server when itt's just booted! is there a way to start my ubuntu without loading cron jobs ?
[21:12] <Bruce_Wayne> Polah: So autoremove will remove dependencies too right?
[21:12] <ks07> How do I allow the www-data user to use 'screen -x...'? I'm getting Cannot opendir /var/run/screen/S-ks: Permission denied
[21:12] <coz_> sudipta,  most of the hits I got refer to eclipse as a high end alternative
[21:12] <cosmo_> what is the command to create a new wineprefix?
[21:12] <Polah> bruce_wayne: autoremove will remove ANY leftover dependencies that aren't needed by anything else
[21:13] <nictrasavios> Oh, and well i am here... I can install compiz, but after a reboot, metacity stops working, no window borders or menus, when i change it back to the default window manager, compiz effects stop. how do i get the two to coninside like they always used to?
[21:13] <Bruce_Wayne> Polah: nice explanation thanks.
[21:13] <coz_> sudipta,  or perhaps   http://www.gnustep.org/
[21:13] <Bruce_Wayne> k3ops: Thanks to you too! :D
[21:13] <ThinkT510> stef__: can't you use a livecd/other linux install to mount the server and edit your cronjobs?
[21:14] <stef__> oh is that possible? just use a livecd and edit the file ?
[21:14] <nictrasavios> And yes, i have tried #compiz, they never said a word in the 2 hours i was in there.
[21:14] <coz_> nictrasavios, ooo sorry guy,,, it was probably when I was on break in #compiz
[21:14] <guntbert> stef__: essentially yes
hmmm...ok...seems like that :)
[21:15] <stef__> ok i will try it, thanks!
[21:15] <coz_> nictrasavios,   I am there now :)
[21:15] <Polah> Is it possible to upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit without a clean install?
[21:15] <coz_> Polah,  not that I am aware of
[21:15] <bastidrazor> Polah: no
[21:15] <itaylor57> Polah: no
gnustep is a full featured ide?
[21:16] <coz_> sudipta,  i believe so but please do some research for it before you do anything :)
okkk
thanx
[21:16] <coz_> sudipta,  no problem and also do more search for  xcode on linux  and its alternatives
[21:17] <Bruce_Wayne> Polah: I was reading `man apt-get` and there is little explanation is given on everything.. I don't understand about dselect method mentioned in `clean`... Do you know about it?
[21:17] <Polah> Bruce_Wayne, No I don't sorry.
[21:17] <Bruce_Wayne> Polah.. Alrigh..
[21:18] <Bruce_Wayne> np
[21:19] <coz_>   ok I need to break for supper ,, be back in a bit
[21:20] <k3ops> Bruce Wayne: you mean the tool dselect ? its textbase paket-installer
[21:21] <hihihi100> i have problems with another zip, help please http://paste.ubuntu.com/580785/
[21:22] <nictrasavios> While i wait for someone in #wine to take notice of my plight, will anyone in here hear my problem?
[21:23] <khrm> What is it?
[21:24] <nictrasavios> Durring the installation of an .msi within the terminal , i ran these commands and these errors came, the installation has failed, this is all the information you need > http://paste.ubuntu.com/580776/
[21:26] <ThinkT510> nictrasavios: have you tried looking in the appdb under itunes perhaps?
[21:27] <aaaaaaaaaaaaa> ?
[21:27] <nictrasavios> ThinkT510, appdb? may you give me a path?
[21:27] <dryicebomb> hihihi100 take a look at this forum, there are instructions there on how to handle 7z files http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-263825.html
[21:28] <ThinkT510> nictrasavios: wine has an app database of compatible applications
[21:28] <Isonyx> Hello, I'm having an issue with cron on ubuntu. Every time I do $ cron it seems to already be running. I can manually close the process down but every time I do it has some keep-alive mechanism. Anyone know what to do?
[21:28] <gimpy4982> I'm trying to run VMware Workstation on 10.10 x64 but it claims it can't find my kernel headers even when I point it to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-27-server.
[21:28] <ThinkT510> nictrasavios: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[21:28] <nictrasavios> ThinkT510, its not on there, which is why i am doing it. I took itunes apart and installed the components one by one, this is the last peice, the one fatal flaw.
[21:29] <k3ops> you configured autodetect driver and deactivate alsa driver and oss, better you use itunes  exe not msi
[21:29] <nictrasavios> the mobile application support, everything else works, i have ti working, it just will not handle any mobile devices. i decompressed the exe, installed the parts one by one.
[21:29] <ThinkT510> nictrasavios: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[21:30] <nictrasavios> the line i would focus on this this "Call from 0x7bc49e10 to unimplemented function msvcrt.dll.??_V@YAXPAX@Z"
[21:31] <Isonyx> Hello, I'm having an issue with cron on ubuntu. Every time I do $ cron it seems to already be running. I can manually close the process down but every time I do it has some keep-alive mechanism. Anyone know what to do?
[21:31] <deft_n1x> hi all, i've a question about ubuntu repository.. exist a web frontend for ubuntu repository that permit to search packages?
[21:32] <maco> deft_n1x: packages.ubuntu.com
[21:32] <Isonyx> Hello, I'm having an issue with cron on ubuntu. Every time I do $ cron it seems to already be running. I can manually close the process down but every time I do it has some keep-alive mechanism. Anyone know what to do?
[21:32] <ThinkT510> !cron | Isonyx
[21:32] <deft_n1x> maco: i need to install it in front of my local repository..
[21:32] <deft_n1x> maco: exist a web application to do it?
[21:32] <nictrasavios> ThinkT510,  i shall try again with the full exe, i used playonlinux the 1st time, let me try that method.
[21:33] <Isonyx> Firstly, http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[21:33] <Isonyx> is Not Found
[21:33] <Isonyx> and secondly. My issue isn't how to use it..It's why it keeps rebooting even when I kill the process.
[21:33] <maco> deft_n1x: does it have to be a web app? "apt-cache search network" will search for "network" in all packages in all of your configured (even local) repositories
[21:33] <cosmo_> what bittorrent client would you guys recomend?
[21:33] <Isonyx> Even after deleting crond.reboot
[21:34] <aeon-ltd> cosmo_: rtorrent
[21:34] <aeon-ltd> cosmo_: transmission
[21:34] <bl4ckcomb> cosmo_, rtorrent or transmission
[21:34] <ThinkT510> deft_n1x: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[21:34] <aeon-ltd> bl4ckcomb: :)
[21:35] <dryicebomb> Isonyx, why do you want to remove cron? is there just a cron job that is running that you want to get rid of?
[21:35] <Polah> cosmo_, Transmission comes with Ubuntu by default
[21:35] <cosmo_> oh didnt notice it there
[21:37] <deft_n1x> maco: yes, i know it.. but if webapp exist i need to it
[21:37] <Isonyx> I  don't want to remove cron.
[21:37] <Isonyx> I want to run cron.
[21:37] <Isonyx> See, when I do I get something like
[21:38] <ThinkT510> Isonyx: cron always runs at boot
[21:38] <Isonyx> can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 688: Resource temporarily unavailable
[21:39] <Isonyx> cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 19216: Resource temporarily unavailable
[21:39] <QuartZo> why did Linus Torvalds say that Ubuntu is not "kernel developer" friendly? What particular thing did he want to refer to?
[21:39] <ljsoftnet> how do you delete files in jolicloud?
[21:39] <Isonyx> Something like that. I read on a linux forum that's it's something to do with the process. When I checked out the Cron process it's on a keep-alive system.
[21:40] <maco> deft_n1x: wouldnt be that hard to write a python script that outputs some basic html and the output of the apt-cache command
[21:40] <feetboot> In order to change the tray icon of gnome power manager, I know I have to change icon files in /usr/share.  But how do I know which to change? 16x16, 22x22, 48x48, etc?  Is there a config file I an look at to see what icon is being used?
[21:40] <nictrasavios> No luck, its what i had before. Still no mobile device support
[21:40] <maco> QuartZo: i suspect a kernel developer could better answer that than the general tech support peple here
[21:40] <deft_n1x> maco: thnx :-)
[21:41] <ThinkT510> nictrasavios: you were right to ask in #wine, it's certainly not a ubuntu issue
[21:41] <nictrasavios> ThinkT510, yes i know, but they are as active as a dead otter.
[21:42] <speedy> hello all
[21:43] <ThinkT510> nictrasavios: if wine doesn't support it yet, then it doesn't support it yet, there's nothing we can do to help with that
[21:44] <speedy> question: does anybody know what intelligent life is for building the package for bashstyle-NG it is a required package is all i have missing to compile it
[21:44] <speedy> where can i get it
[21:47] <phoenixsampras> how should i biu drinks, and my wife wont be noticed?
[21:47] <phoenixsampras> how should i buy drinks, and my wife wont be noticed?
[21:48] <Firefishe> speedy: What are you trying to compile again?
[21:48] <aVirulence> I have a question on mdadm on Natty, is there a dedicated Natty channel?
[21:49] <ThinkT510> !natty
[21:49] <J697> In am trying to keep my computer for going idle after say 20 minutes so I can leave it to download something like a large file. How can I do this?
[21:50] <aVirulence> ThinkT510: thanks
[21:50] <speedy> BashStyle-NG i have everything on system to do compile but one rewuired says at top of script ./configure it says intelligent life not available
[21:50] <frojnd> Hi there. Is there a way to connect to a secure (WEP) wireless network from command line without installing any additional apps? And how?
[21:50] <frojnd> I really need this
[21:51] <Firefishe> |697:  Why wouldn't you just be able to leave your computer and download the file?  Is your computer hibernating or something after 20 minutes?
[21:51] <ThinkT510> J697: try looking under the power settings
[21:51] <tim> Why on system startup does Ubuntu 10.10 show multiple startups?
[21:51] <J697> Fireblasto, yes exactly, well it shuts down actually and ThinkT510, I have but it still does anyway for some reason :|
[21:52] <bastidrazor> tim: do you mean multiple kernel options?
[21:52] <Fireblasto> J697, classic example of failure with that tab key ;)
[21:52] <Firefishe> J697: If it shuts down after 20 minutes, you probably have it set to do so in the power management settings.
[21:52] <Firefishe> bastidrazor: I have, at least, seven kernels on this thing
[21:53] <aeon-ltd> ,
[21:53] <t_j> where can I find info on building packages for ubuntu?
[21:53] <bastidrazor> Firefishe: in synaptic search for linux-image and uninstall the older kernels
[21:53] <ThinkT510> J697: you sure you edited the right settings and applied them, there are seperate settings for battery and ac
[21:53] <Firefishe> bastidrazor: I'm not unaware of them.  Fact is, I sometimes go back just to see what's changed ;).
[21:54] <stiltzkin> hello all, got a problem I'm sure someone can solve in 3 minutes or less
[21:54] <guntbert> !packaging | t_j
[21:54] <Firefishe> stiltzkin: I'll give it a go.
[21:54] <bastidrazor> Firefishe: that is what the changelog is for
[21:55] <Firefishe> bastidrazor: practical testing, however, requires the original kernel...no matter, I usually delete, say, that two oldest after about 6 months.
[21:55] <t_j> ubottu: cool thanks
[21:55] <Firefishe> that two = "the last two"
[21:55] <J697> Fireblasto, I meant more like, the screen goes black after about 5-10 minutes and I have to move the mouse or press space and enter my password, which is annoying, then after 30 more minutes it shuts down,and ThinkT510 I guess I'll look at it again
[21:56] <daxol> hi, I have a dual boot between win7 and ubuntu.. is it possible to make my windows home directory and linux home directory the same? i know i can access my windows files my mounting the partition and then navigating to them, but is it possible to make it so when i open "pictures" in ubuntu it will always show the same contents as opening "my pictures" in windows ?
[21:56] <stiltzkin> Just installed Ubuntu 10.10 on an old PowerMac G4, via the alternate install CD. Install went fine, but when X tries to start I get "Cannot Display This Video Mode" on my monitor
[21:56] <stiltzkin> I suspect this is a framerate issue
[21:56] <t_j> guntbert: ah missed that it was you, thanks for the infor
[21:56] <Firefishe> speedy: Please don't file send me unless you tell me, in advance, what it is you're sending me, please.
[21:56] <t_j> s/r$//
[21:56] <Fireblasto> oh come on, J697, that's twice, fix it or stop using the tab button
[21:56] <tim> Yes I believe that is correct
[21:56] <guntbert> t_j: no problem :)
[21:56] <bastidrazor> daxol: symlink
[21:57] <stiltzkin> Normally I'd edit xorg.conf, but that is apparently deprecated in 10.10
[21:57] <bastidrazor> tim: you can uninstall the older kernels if you don't want them.
[21:57] <speedy> Firefishe: sorry may i send the shot of compile so u can c thanks i promise its ok
[21:57] <stiltzkin> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does nothing as well
[21:57] <Firefishe> speedy:  go ahead and re-send it.
[21:57] <speedy> ok
[21:57] <J697> Fireblasto, I am afraid I don't really understand :\
[21:57] <bastidrazor> stiltzkin: you can still use a xorg.conf if you wish.
[21:57] <stiltzkin> also xrandr just complains "Can't open display"
[21:57] <J697> *what you about the tab
[21:58] <donnib> is it possible to put a delay in the crontab file ?
[21:58] <stiltzkin> bastidrazor, I was just reading that...but I'm not entirely what goes in that file to begin with
[21:58] <donnib> i have a line launching a script but i want a delay of let's say 20 sec, is that possible ?
[21:58] <speedy> Firefishe : will it still compile u think
[21:59] <tim> How do I uninstall the extra kernels?
[21:59] <Fireblasto> J697, you are hitting the tab key on your key board to auto complete names, and it is highlighting me. Make sure you type out the right name and don't just type'fire'
[21:59] <Firefishe> lol
[21:59] <bastidrazor> stiltzkin: just add what you need set.
[21:59] <Firefishe> speedy:  I don't know if that is an actually-needed file.
[21:59] <bastidrazor> tim: in synaptic search for linux-image
[21:59] <Firefishe> speedy:  It may be a bit of linux-build humor
[22:00] <tim> Thanks.
[22:00] <Firefishe> intelligent lift > not available
[22:00] <Firefishe> gads typos
[22:00] <guntbert> tim: use your favourite package manager, look for linux-image and linux-headers
[22:00] <Firefishe> intelligent life > not available
[22:00] <bastidrazor> tim: be sure to leave the current kernel alone.
[22:00] <stiltzkin> bastidrazor, so just the "monitor" section I guess?
[22:00] <speedy> to uninstall extr kernels use ailurus to remove unwanted kernels
[22:00] <J697> Fireblasto, oh lol I jjust noticed Fireblasto and Firefishe lol, sorry :)
[22:00] <tim> One more question.  I have a system that is hanging on the Ubuntu splash screen.  How can I get around that?
[22:01] <Fireblasto> J697, no problem, only problem is that it took 4 highlights on my nick :)
[22:01] <Firefishe> speedy:  Well, all you can do is do `make' and see if it does
[22:01] <Firefishe> speedy:  If it gives you an error, then you'll know.  It doesn't sound like a library to me.
[22:02] <speedy> Firefishe: that is kinda what i was thinking its not needed i have installed it on 2 other machines never seen that b4 and they work fine compile on lucid box
[22:02] <speedy> Firefishe: thanks for the input and help
[22:02] <speedy> i will compile and c if works
[22:03] <tim> I think that I ruined one of my partitions.  I get "Press S to skip or M for manual recovery" at system start.  Can you advise?
[22:03] <Firefishe> speedy:  I'm using lucid, as well.  That type of thing is kind of like kvirc:  There's a place in the config-setup where you can compile the following:  --with-pizza and --with-beer.  All they do is start a small script that does nothing except say it's mixing and baking the ingredients and pulling a draght of your fav brew ;) hee
[22:03] <Firefishe> draught
[22:04] <Firefishe> speedy:  Please tell me if it does.
[22:04] <Firefishe> :)
[22:04] <Firefishe> happy to help
[22:05] <speedy> ok thanks
[22:05] <Fireblasto> tim retrieve any files that you need, and reinstall ubuntu. Simples. Unless you want to try a manual recover, which I don't know what it entails
[22:06] <Firefishe> speedy:  Another clue is the line at the bottom of the configure script end:  "We can't promise to not kill any kittens."  -- Considering that part, I think the first part is a given ;) LOL
[22:06] <speedy> ya i saw that funny humor
[22:07] <bastidrazor> Fireblasto: how does reinstalling ubuntu fix a busted partition that may not even contain the OS?
[22:07] <Firefishe> speedy:  Just what is bashstyle-NG anyway?
[22:07] <Fireblasto> bastidrazor, I was presuming it was the system partition
[22:07] <bastidrazor> Fireblasto: possibly you should ask those sorts of questions before suggesting radical moves.
[22:08] <Fireblasto> bastidrazor, yes, but only trying to help :)
[22:08] <speedy> its a bash addon for some nice effects to your existing bash and commandline
[22:08] <bastidrazor> Fireblasto: give of the wall advice is not helping.
[22:08] <Firefishe> speedy:  I'll look it up, may be interesting.
[22:08] <Fireblasto> bastidrazor ?
[22:08] <Firefishe> speedy:  If you need more assistance, and I'm here, please ask :)
[22:09] <speedy> ok thanks
[22:09] <Firefishe> yw speedy
[22:09] <bastidrazor> Fireblasto: blindly suggesting to reinstall is _far_ from helping
[22:09] <speedy> http://www.nanolx.org/newsnanolx/bashstyle-ng#more-87 link to bashstyle-NG
[22:09] <Fireblasto> bastidrazor, well it usually is fool proof, that's why I suggested it
[22:10] <bastidrazor> Fireblasto: fool proof? that is the last solution to any problem.
[22:10] <speedy> for everyone new to linux and a great tool try this for the ease of installing and running ur box makes things easy http://code.google.com/p/ailurus/
[22:10] <Fireblasto> bastidrazor, not in general, in relation to that problem
[22:11] <morissette> hello, I have a laptop w/ a recently broken screen that I wanted to turn into a file server; it is currently running ubuntu desktop and I was wondering if there was anyway to re-install the server edition over LAN? Also, I want the laptop to stay on with the lid closed, not sure how to do that at all.
[22:11] <bob__283> I was going to suggest tim use the disk manager to check the disk if his system is up
[22:12] <bastidrazor> Fireblasto: you don't even know what the problem was. you assumed. in the future determine the real issue before jumping to a conclusion
[22:14] <Fireblasto> bastidrazor, and I know, I should of gathered more intel. The way in that you suggested that I was unhelpful was not friendly
[22:14] <Firefishe> morrisette:  I'm no expert here, but for the hardware, you may have to find where the lid-switch is, and disconnect it, or remove it, altogether.  That *might* work for keeping the laptop on.
[22:14] <speedy> ok did the ./make build no errors and then ./make install no errors
[22:14] <rumbold1> hrm, what do i do if i opened nautilus while running xmonad? it now just shows the wallpaper. and i can get a context menu. but i cant get rid of nautilus. or at least i dont know how
[22:15] <mang0> Wow loads of people in here :o
[22:15] <[thor]> rumbold1: in a terminal --> ps -A | grep nautilus
[22:15] <morissette> yep, no help yet though :(
[22:16] <morissette> hello, I have a laptop w/ a recently broken screen that I wanted to turn into a file server; it is currently running ubuntu desktop and I was wondering if there was anyway to re-install the server edition over LAN? Also, I want the laptop to stay on with the lid closed, not sure how to do that at all.
[22:16] <guntbert> mang0: welcom,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:16] <[thor]> rumbold1: then --> kill -9 <<PID listed for nautilus>>
[22:16] <guntbert> !repeat | morissette
[22:16] <Mission_Control> I do
[22:16] <Mission_Control> I've had a problem with multimonitor support
[22:16] <mang0> Guntbert: yes im on my phone so let me type this out :)
[22:16] <Mission_Control> I haven't been able to use two graphics cards at the same time
[22:17] <morissette> that's the problem
[22:17] <Mission_Control> that's one of the issues anyhowz
[22:17] <rumbold1> [thor]: i dont have a terminal. (sorry, im a newb)
[22:17] <morissette> you need to use one graphic card
[22:17] <daxol> hi, I have a dual boot between win7 and ubuntu.. is it possible to make my windows home directory and linux home directory the same? i know i can access my windows files my mounting the partition and then navigating to them, but is it possible to make it so when i open "pictures" in ubuntu it will always show the same contents as opening "my pictures" in windows ?
[22:17] <Mission_Control> well that's stupid
[22:17] <[thor]> rumbold1: for example, if the output from ps -A | grep nautilus is : 15549 ?        00:00:17 nautilus
[22:17] <Mission_Control> I have for monitors
[22:17] <ohzie> daxol: this is not a good idea
[22:17] <[thor]> rumbold1: then the PID is 15549
[22:17] <Mission_Control> I can only use two per graphics cards
[22:17] <guntbert> !who > morissette
[22:17] <morissette> okay
[22:17] <iflema> join #archlinux
[22:17] <bastidrazor> morissette: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/08/how-to-install-ubuntu-locally-over-the-network/
[22:17] <[thor]> rumbold1: CTRL-F2 and then type gnome-terminal
[22:18] <[thor]> rumbold1: sorry.. ALT-F2
[22:18] <ohzie> daxol: It would be very cluttered and having your home partition on an ntfs partition would make at least me nervous
[22:18] <TechniCore> steam is so annoying in ubuntu
[22:18] <ThinkT510> daxol: a good compromise is to have a seperate partition where you put all your files on
[22:18] <Mission_Control> I know it is
[22:19] <Yoinx> this is kinda ubuntu related i guess... I use aptana studio 3 (standalone version), I have it extracted to a "bin" dir in my home directory... I've made a launcher to it and docked it onto my docky launcher.... but the launcher doesn't grab the window and it always sits on the bar for unmanaged windows... anyone ever experience this?
[22:19] <Mission_Control> does anyone know when steam is coming out for linux?
[22:19] <guntbert> !info steam > Mission_Control
[22:19] <stiltzkin> I still can't get the display working, even with xorg.conf
[22:19] <daxol> ohzie oh right, what's wrong with an ntfs partition?
[22:19] <stiltzkin> If I try startx I get "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[22:19] <rumbold1> [thor]: thanks. it's ctrl-alt-f2 though :p
[22:20] <Mission_Control> !info steam > Mission_Control
[22:20] <daxol> ThinkT510 oh ok, what type of file system would that partiton be ?
[22:20] <Mission_Control> I see
[22:20] <[thor]> rumbold1: that will open a different Virtual Terminal
[22:20] <[thor]> rumbold1: ALT-F2 should open the gnomepanel run dialog
[22:20] <morissette> @thor scren
[22:21] <ThinkT510> daxol: either fat32 or ntfs (so windows can read either), i suggest ntfs if you have any files over 4gb
[22:21] <[thor]> morissette: what?
[22:21] <mang0> Okay so guys, im looking for an operating system other then windows, and i thought id try linux. i pick up tech things fairly quickly so that's cool. i just wanted some more info on ubuntu. i have been told it is the best linux version for nubs. why is this?
[22:21] <morissette> [thor]: screen
[22:21] <guntbert> !ot | mang0
[22:21] <stiltzkin> Anyone have any experience with display modes? This is rather frustrating
[22:21] <mang0> Oh sorry
[22:22] <TobalJackson> hello ubuntu channel
[22:22] <dlynes> Is there a way to force a package to get installed?
[22:23] <TobalJackson> I was wondering if someone could take a look at a topic I started on ubuntuforums and possibly give me some guidance?
[22:23] <TobalJackson> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10563963#post10563963
[22:23] <dlynes> I've got a package that's telling me i need >= python 2.5 and < python2.6
[22:23] <dlynes> I've got both python 2.5 and python 2.6 installed, so it's refusing to install
[22:23] <guntbert> !here | TobalJackson
[22:23] <[thor]> rumbold1: this is what you should see.. sorta --> http://uppix.net/a/d/5/80b2db8abf0d124453c515d1a28a2.png
[22:24] <TobalJackson> basically, I need to know how to construct a routine in a bash script
[22:24] <daxol> ThinkT510 oh  i see ok then. but even if i had this partition, how would i make ubuntu automatically link to it? e.g. in my ubuntu home directory i want a link to the documents folder on another partition, can this be done? i don't want to have to keep mounting the partition
[22:24] <timmybobcat14> Hi I have a problem opening ubuntu. I have pasted the problem here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[22:24] <TobalJackson> that will copy recursively a single directory to multiple destinations simultaneously
[22:24] <TobalJackson> guntbert, were you saying you know bash scripting?
[22:25] <guntbert> TobalJackson: in that case you would get better support in #bash, I guess :-)
[22:25] <TobalJackson> ooh!
[22:25] <TobalJackson> thanks guntbert
[22:25] <ThinkT510> daxol: you can set the partition to be automatically mounted at boot
[22:26] <guntbert> dlynes: what package is that? (just curious)
[22:26] <stiltzkin> So, if xorg.conf is gone, where does Ubuntu store display information
[22:26] <Mission_Control> how does linux work out with raid?
[22:26] <Tekku> Good night peeps
[22:26] <Firefishe> dlynes: You must be very very careful about this type of thing, but you can use (and please read the man page for dpkg before doing this): `dpkg -i --force-architecture packagename.deb   (or something like that).  Again, read and check before doing it.
[22:26] <dlynes> guntbert, creepy
[22:27] <Mission_Control> are there any problems that can occure there?
[22:27] <Blue1> Firefishe: sage advice
[22:27] <dlynes> Mission_Control, it works just fine with raid
[22:27] <Mission_Control> ok
[22:27] <Mission_Control> all I wanted to know
[22:27] <Firefishe> Blue1: I've done that before, and had a few problems with weird libraries ;).
[22:27] <dlynes> Mission_Control, and lots of problems can occur there
[22:27] <jonthue> hello i got the following error: installArchives() failed: (Reading database ...
[22:27] <jonthue> (Reading database ... 5%
[22:27] <jonthue> (Reading database ... 10%
[22:27] <jonthue> (Reading database ... 15%
[22:27] <jonthue> (Reading database ... 20%
[22:27] <FloodBot2> jonthue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <jonthue> (Reading database ... 25%
[22:27] <guntbert> dlynes: creepy? that package doesn't exist in maverick
[22:27] <rww> stiltzkin: It doesn't. Xorg autodetects display information, input devices, etc., when it's started.
[22:27] <kawet> hi
[22:27] <kawet> xd
[22:28] <dlynes> guntbert, it's a ppa archive
[22:28] <Mission_Control> oh
[22:28] <Blue1> Firefishe: ditto - i had to do that with lightscribe -- you can break linux if you aren't careful.
[22:28] <Mission_Control> ok
[22:28] <Mission_Control> cause I just thought it being more of a hardware thing
[22:28] <guntbert> dlynes: then I suggest you ask the maintainer of that ppa
[22:28] <jonthue> i am having a hard time updating anything
[22:28] <Mission_Control> I just wondered if there might be any problems when it comes to ubuntu and raid
[22:28] <Firefishe> Blue1: You know, my Asus G50V lappie here *does* have lightscribe, but I've never tried it.
[22:29] <Fredrick> when installing a new server, what is "Landscape"? in regards to automatic updates
[22:29] <dlynes> Mission_Control, a lot of software that the average person doesn't use can have lots of problems
[22:29] <stiltzkin> rww, what is the logic behind that? So if the display is detected incorrectly, I can't make any changes to correct the problem
[22:29] <dlynes> Mission_Control, are you talking about hardware-based raid specifically?
[22:29] <dlynes> Mission_Control, or are you talking pure software raid?
[22:29] <Blue1> Firefishe: I had to retro that onto a 64 bit system.  it works well as long as you install the ia32 libs.
[22:29] <dlynes> Mission_Control, or are you talking more winraid?
[22:30] <lkd> t
[22:30] <timmybobcat14> It seems such a simple problem if I was a techy I am sure a few keystrokes and it would be solved...http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[22:30] <rww> stiltzkin: If you create an xorg.conf with the configuration settings you need, it'll read that instead.
[22:30] <Mission_Control> I really don't know
[22:30] <dlynes> Mission_Control, how were you planning to implement raid?
[22:30] <Mission_Control> I have no experience with it
[22:30] <Firefishe> Blue1: I'm using 64bit ubuntu 10.04.  Also *with* the ia23libs installed.  A lot of software needs them, so I just put 'em in when I install a new system.
[22:30] <Mission_Control> but when I do I want to do it with both windows and ubuntu
[22:30] <dlynes> Mission_Control, ah...then what makes you think you need it?
[22:31] <Mission_Control> faster connection
[22:31] <dlynes> Mission_Control, you mean faster throughput?
[22:31] <Fredrick> what is landscape? its in the installer, on the automatic updates screen
[22:31] <inside-out-bunny> timmybobcat14: did you have anything important on your /home partition? b/c it sounds like a bad drive
[22:31] <Blue1> Firefishe: yup.  if not too personal where ru from?  I'm in tucson, az
[22:31] <Mission_Control> yeah
[22:31] <dlynes> Mission_Control, so you don't care about data integrity then?  Just pure speed?
[22:31] <Firefishe> Blue1:  Let's take personal chat to query, k?
[22:31] <Mission_Control> well
[22:31] <Blue1> sure
[22:31] <Mission_Control> I was thinking about raid 1+0
[22:32] <dlynes> Mission_Control, pure speed would be raid 0
[22:32] <dlynes> Mission_Control, pure data integrity would be raid 1
[22:32] <Mission_Control> that's striped raid
[22:32] <Mission_Control> and then mirrored for raid 1
[22:32] <dlynes> Mission_Control, a nice mix of the two would be raid 5
[22:32] <dlynes> Mission_Control, however, for raid 5, you need at least three drives
[22:32] <timmybobcat14> inside-out-bunny is that another way of saying I need to reinstall it all again: I can access my home directory no problem.
[22:32] <Mission_Control> it would be either 1+0 or raid 5 depending on whether I'll get a raid contoller
[22:32] <theorem> silly question, I can;t seem to mount my DVD drive after I've just put something in the drive -- what is preventing me from doing this ?
[22:33] <Mission_Control> you need a raid controller for raid 5
[22:33] <dlynes> Mission_Control, you do not
[22:33] <theorem> dlynes is correct.
[22:33] <stiltzkin> rww, that's what I did, but I'm not sure what the settings I need are. I tried a sample configuration that should be compatible with my monitor but I get "Fatal server error: no screens found" if I try to startx
[22:33] <malibu> Ok.. dumb question.. does the show desktop shortcut for anyone else but me default to plain letter 'D' ???
[22:33] <dlynes> Mission_Control, but, if you want the same data to be able to be read by both windows and linux
[22:33] <timmybobcat14> inside-out-bunny - I obviously doen't know how to check my permissions or would probably have solved the problem
[22:33] <timmybobcat14> by now
[22:33] <stiltzkin> also, is this related to the fact that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg now appears to do nothing?
[22:33] <dlynes> Mission_Control, it doesn't matter raid 0, 1, 5, ..., you're going to need a raid controller card
[22:34] <stiltzkin> that usually fixed all of my problems when I had display issues in the past
[22:34] <theorem> dlynes: there you are incorrect.
[22:34] <Mission_Control> unless your motherboard supports raid
[22:34] <theorem> dlynes: you never *need* a RAID card.
[22:34] <Mission_Control> it should do both raid 1 and 0
[22:34] <theorem> Mission_Control: certainly not.   you can do it all in software.  it's just harder.
[22:34] <dlynes> theorem, so how do you do software raid in linux that's compatible with windows?
[22:34] <alexantemachina> hi all
[22:34] <timmybobcat14> How does one check one's "permissions"?
[22:34] <Mission_Control> I don't know
[22:34] <theorem> dlynes: dlynes :  not compat with windows.  who runs that ?
[22:34] <Fredrick> it seems that landscape is for managing huge clouds of servers, is this true?
[22:34] <theorem> ;-)
[22:35] <timmybobcat14> "The disk drive for /home is not ready yet or not present.
[22:35] <timmybobcat14> Continue to wait; or press S to skip or M for manual recovery"
[22:35] <dlynes> Mission_Control, motherboard is still hardware raid (assuming you're not talking about intel bios raid aka winraid)
[22:35] <malibu> dlynes: Set up a software raid on a linux server, intstall samba, share volumes with windows
[22:35] <Mission_Control> in the event that I can't use the two I'll just have to pick which operating system I want
[22:35] <theorem> you want linux.
[22:35] <Fredrick> !Linux
[22:35] <timmybobcat14> If I choose to press S I can log in but then I get theses 2 messages and have to reboot:
[22:35] <timmybobcat14> "Could not update ICE Authority file /home/myname/.ICEauthority"
[22:35] <timmybobcat14> There is a problem with the configuration service (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfpsanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[22:35] <dlynes> malibu, "<Mission_Control> but when I do I want to do it with both windows and ubuntu"
[22:35]  * theorem rolls his eyes.
[22:36] <Fredrick> oh, i thought that would be more like " Lunix FTW!"
[22:36] <ThinkT510> theorem: thats his decision to make
[22:36] <dlynes> malibu, whether he means both on the same machine, or across the network, i have no idea
[22:36] <alexantemachina> I'd like to know wether the dock/bar on the left on unity can be configured somehow.
[22:36] <theorem> naturally
[22:36] <Mission_Control> hmm
[22:36] <theorem> but I didn;t come in here to discuss these merits.
[22:36] <timmybobcat14> When I click ok I get a further message box which states:
[22:36] <timmybobcat14> Nautilus could not create the following required folder: /home/myname/Desktop; /home/myname/.nautilus
[22:36] <theorem> :-.
[22:36] <peter_felching> Hi. What do I need to install in order to enable synaptics multitouch? I am not interested in hacking xorg.conf (it crashes anyway), and I knew that some synaptics driver can deliver this function since I installed it once.
[22:36] <theorem> just a rediculous DVD drive problem ...
[22:36] <theorem> *ridiculous
[22:36] <shawnboy> Anyone heard anything lately about ZFS in Linux (if/when, etc)?
[22:36] <timmybobcat14> http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[22:37] <theorem> shawnboy: grab FreeBSD, it's supported now.
[22:37] <Fredrick> peter_felching, what OS and Version are you using?
[22:37] <theorem> shawnboy: ZFS on linux is done via FUSE
[22:37] <peter_felching> Fredrick, I am using regular 10.10
[22:37] <Fredrick> ubuntu? or ubuntu server?
[22:37] <timmybobcat14> Surely someone must know the answer?
[22:37] <Mission_Control> I've also had another question about hardware
[22:37] <peter_felching> Fredrick, desktop.
[22:38] <shawnboy> theorem: that's where I heard about it (I run FreeNAS), but I've spent 1.5 learning linux. I'm a dope with BSD.
[22:38] <timmybobcat14> It seems like a fairly simple and maybe common? problem
[22:38] <Mission_Control> can you do raid between drives of different capacity?
[22:38] <Fredrick> this is ubuntu-server, for servers
[22:38] <suicidolt> good even ubuntu-ers.  This is my first time using Ubuntu :)
[22:38] <suicidolt> before I ask my 9-million questions, first, let me ask....anything I should know?
[22:38] <theorem> shawnboy: it's very similar, you'll like 'ports'
[22:38] <timmybobcat14> Ah but is there a simple and common solution?
[22:38] <alexantemachina> well, there is a first time for anything in live, suicidolt
[22:38] <malibu> suicidolt: Wow your first time using ubuntu and you found IRC too?? Congrats!!
[22:38] <Fredrick> NEVER use root, use sudo, suicidolt
[22:38] <peter_felching> Fredrick, I am not sure we understand each other.
[22:38] <dlynes> suicidolt, how about what you want to do/use ubuntu for, would be a good start
[22:38] <timmybobcat14> Remedy?
[22:39] <cool_is_cool> asd
[22:39] <ThinkT510> !manual | suicidolt
[22:39] <alexantemachina> nah.. use "su"
[22:39] <Fredrick> wait, im on ubuntu?! i thought i was on ubuntu-server, sorry people
[22:39] <olivier> hi room
[22:39] <shawnboy> theorem: so you think if I dug in... that if I feel fairly comfortable in Ubuntu now, that I'd pick up on BSD fairly easy?
[22:39] <olivier> any french chatroom ?
[22:39] <timmybobcat14> I have pasted the problem here. Any helpful solutions welcomed: Thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[22:39] <malibu> What IS the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu-server?
[22:39] <rww> !fr | olivier
[22:40] <theorem> shawnboy: are you familiar with CLI ?
[22:40] <olivier> tkx
[22:40] <shendai> testing - please disregard
[22:40] <shawnboy> theorem: very familiar with CLI, not a guru though.
[22:40] <theorem> shawnboy: you'll likely do fine then
[22:40] <olivier> server is generally minimal install, with many deamons preinstaller
[22:40] <phoenixsampras> oliver_: pute le merde, coman ta le vou
[22:40] <theorem> shawnboy: run it a VM if you're scared.  it's very familiar
[22:41] <shawnboy> theorem: I may give it a spin. Got Ubuntu on most my machines, DSL on ancient laptop, Yellow Dog Linux on PS3, and running FreeNAS on old heap.
[22:41] <theorem> shawnboy: FreeBSD should run on any of those
[22:42] <theorem> shawnboy: and the ZFS guides make things a snap.
[22:42] <shawnboy> theorem: I like when things are snap.
[22:42] <alberto> Hello, does anybody know anything about using VST Instruments on Ubuntu via Jack?
[22:42] <shawnboy> theorem: I really like guides.
[22:42] <timmybobcat14> How does one check one's "permissions"?
[22:43] <AnubArack> How can I fix my video playback on 10.10 ? It's a bit croppy at times, like 1/4 of the screen desyncs while the scene is moving
[22:43] <alberto> I mean I just can't make them work
[22:43] <ThinkT510> !permissions | timmybobcat14
[22:43] <suicidolt> thanks alexantemachina malibu Fredrick and ThinkT510.  dlynes I am currently just trying to get a feel for it.  I am using a netbook though, so some things are extremely confusing
[22:43] <shawnboy> theorem: thanks for feedback. have a good one.
[22:43] <theorem> you too
[22:43] <coz_> hey agll
[22:43] <Firefishe> alberto:  VST are the instrument *files* for whatever synth you're using them with, correct?
[22:43] <coz_>  rather hey all
[22:44] <dlynes> suicidolt, some newer laptops may or may not have incompatible hardware
[22:44] <alexantemachina> lol... suicidolt, unity is confusing to me too
[22:44] <timmybobcat14> ThinkT510ubottu  - cheers
[22:44] <alexantemachina> dunno how to configure that sidebar
[22:44] <Firefishe> hey coz_
[22:44] <alberto> Firefishe Yes, I suppose
[22:44] <alexantemachina> can anybody pleeez tell me?
[22:44] <coz_> Firefishe,  hey guy
[22:44] <alberto> Firefishe Yes, that's right, definitely.
[22:44] <timmybobcat14> I have pasted the problem here. Any helpful solutions welcomed: Thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[22:44] <Firefishe> alberto:  Are you trying to use a particular synth?
[22:45] <ThinkT510> !unity | alexantemachina
[22:45] <alberto> Firefishe I've been actually trying to use plenty of them, none of them working...
[22:45] <timmybobcat14> Nautilus could not create the following required folder: /home/myname/Desktop; /home/myname/.nautilus
[22:45] <timmybobcat14> There is a problem with the configuration service (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfpsanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[22:46] <alberto> Firefishe What I'm really trying to do is connecting Windows VST Instruments via Wine and dssi-vst through Jack server
[22:46] <rreyes> hi all... my laptop overheats with ubuntu 10.10... any ideas on what could it be? No overheat with win7
[22:46] <timmybobcat14> "Could not update ICE Authority file /home/myname/.ICEauthority"
[22:46] <coz_> timmybobcat14,  the first thing I would attemtp is  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:46] <Firefishe> alberto:  If you're using wine, anything like that is a crap shoot.  Unless there's a specific project targeting that, I'm afraid I can't help you.
[22:47] <Firefishe> alberto: I've played around with linux-native stuff for VST, but never using wine for something like that.
[22:47] <timmybobcat14> coz- hi. So what is the distro upgrade-a download again of the lates kernel??
[22:47] <alberto> Firefishe Are there any native VST instruments for linux?
[22:48] <dlynes> Isn't apt-get --force-yes supposed to ignore dependencies?
[22:48] <Firefishe> alberto: www.linux-vst.com has some
[22:48] <Jordan_U> dlynes: No. And it's not generally a good idea to use --force-yes or to try to ignore dependencies. What are you trying to accomplish?
[22:49] <olivier> is there any solaris room ?
[22:49] <alberto> Firefishe Are they really "instruments"? And above all, are they free?
[22:49] <iceroot> olivier: try #solaris or any other strings
[22:49] <ohzie> A friend of mine was talking about Apache Tomcat: gpmidi: hey guys, we put a webserver on your webserver so you can proxy while you serve
[22:49] <timmybobcat14> COZ_ - is that code for reinstall it all again (yet again?) : b
[22:49] <dlynes> Jordan_U, install a package that says   creepy: Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed, even though both python 2.5 and python 2.6 are installed
[22:49] <ohzie> I found this funny. ( ;_;)
[22:49] <timmybobcat14> coz_ - is that code for reinstall it all again (yet again?) : b
[22:50] <coz_> timmybobcat14,  no that will update or upgrade any libraries or packages  for the system you have already
[22:50] <dlynes> Jordan_U, and its dependency line looks like this:  Depends: python (>= 2.5), python (<< 2.6), python-support (>= 0.7.1), osm-gps-map, python-simplejson, python-osmgpsmap (>= 0.7), python-beautifulsoup, python-pyexiv2, python-configobj, python-setuptools
[22:50] <Firefishe> alberto: some are, some aren't
[22:50] <Firefishe> alberto:  some synth products have to be purchased.
[22:50] <alberto> Firefishe Thank you very much... By the way, check this out ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys1s3Dk5sGo
[22:50] <Firefishe> alberto:  Thank you, I will :)
[22:51] <Jordan_U> dlynes: What is creepy?
[22:51] <dlynes> Jordan_U, http://freshmeat.net/projects/creepy
[22:51] <timmybobcat14> coz_ ok I have just run update now.
[22:51] <dlynes> Jordan_U, A research tool
[22:51] <peter_felching> Hi. What do I need to install in order to enable synaptics multitouch? I am not interested in hacking xorg.conf (it crashes anyway), and I knew that some synaptics driver can deliver this function since I installed it once.
[22:52] <alberto> Firefishe He gets that VST plug-in to work with Wine and dssi-vst... Although it seems to be very tricky...
[22:53] <timmybobcat14> coz_ - this is the result of sudo apt-get distro upgrade: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:53] <suicidolt> First question, my touchpad no longer has multitouch.  I found a website: http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2009/03/multi-touch-for-anyall-synaptics.html  but it's greek to me
[22:54] <Jordan_U> dlynes: I just tried adding the ppa on my 10.10 system and installing creepy has no dependency problem here.
[22:54] <Firefishe> alberto: is Addictive Drums windows software?
[22:54] <timmybobcat14> coz_ -maybe just the sudo apt-get update has done the trick (but I'm not too hopeful)
[22:54] <dlynes> Jordan_U, yeah...trying to install it on 9.04 here
[22:54] <coz_> timmybobcat14,  if it didnt update or upgrade anything then the issue probably isnt solved
[22:54] <Jordan_U> dlynes: 9.04 is no longer supported.
[22:54] <Jordan_U> !eol | dlynes
[22:54] <natrixnatrix89> All wifi routers and accespoints are based on linux, right? Does anyonw know a way to turn your ubuntu pc in a wifi router or ap?
[22:54] <dlynes> Jordan_U, yeah...everyone keeps telling me that
[22:55] <alberto> Firefishe I think it is... Nevertheless, the user describes what he uses to get that working... And he says he's using Wine and dssi-vst
[22:55] <olivier> do i have to perfect my english ? cause no frenchy knows about zoning in solaris10
[22:55] <timmybobcat14> coz_- not kidding. ha ha ha ha. What about the permissions route-do you think the solution might lie there? Oh if only I was a techy!
[22:55] <alberto> Firefishe Therefore Addictive Drums must be made for Windows / Mac platforms...
[22:55] <Jordan_U> dlynes: That's because 1: You shouldn't be running an OS without security updates and 2: "No longer supported" means that we don't support it.
[22:55] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: Some are linux based, some are not.
[22:55] <Loshki> timmybobcat14: still struggling with the .ICEauthority thing?
[22:56] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: using a linux pc as an access point is possible, but it depends on your hardware.
[22:56] <dlynes> Jordan_U, w/o security updates is relative, considering it's on a closed network, without internet
[22:56] <Jordan_U> dlynes: Why are you using 9.04 still?
[22:56] <natrixnatrix89> ohzie: because some wifi cards don't support it?
[22:56] <Jordan_U> dlynes: That still doesn't change point #2. We don't support unsupported releases.
[22:56] <dlynes> Jordan_U, because the platform is stable on 9.04, and we haven't worked the kinks out of 10.04 yet
[22:56] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: Because the drivers don't support it
[22:56] <natrixnatrix89> right
[22:56] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: any hardware is capable of it
[22:56] <ohzie> it's the driver that's the difficult part
[22:56] <natrixnatrix89> yeah
[22:57] <Firefishe> alberto:  I'll peruse is a bit more.  Now I'm interested.
[22:57] <natrixnatrix89> but I've been searching for programs on ubuntu that would do it. but it seems impossible to find one..
[22:57] <AnubArack> How can I fix my video playback on 10.10 ? It's a bit cropy at times, like 1/4 of the screen desyncs while the scene is moving
[22:57] <Firefishe> alberto: Also, for you--and all who are interested--here's the page for the product, itself.  Might be useful.  http://www.xlnaudio.com/?page=products&p_page=addictivedrums
[22:57] <dlynes> Jordan_U, there's a few kinks with plymouth, gdm/xdm and 10.04 for our autoinstaller for pxeboot-based installs
[22:57] <Jordan_U> dlynes: If you want to use 9.04 you're on your own. We can probably help you with getting the kinks worked out with 10.04 though.
[22:57] <timmybobcat14> Loshki- yes. Any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[22:58] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: There are no one-click software suites. It takes some work and patience and a lot of learning.
[22:58] <alberto> Firefishe Thank you very much.
[22:58] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: here is a guide: http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/nethub/article.php/3463611/Build-A-Linux-Based--Wireless-Access-Point.htm
[22:58] <Firefishe> alberto: I absolutely love synth stuff.  I'm a keyboardist, and I love pads, techno, and lots of new-age/dreamy stuff.  I just wish it were a little easier to set up in linux.
[22:58] <question_> is there a basic beginner channel that i can ask simple questions without looking dumb?
[22:58] <dlynes> Jordan_U, yeah...unfortunately i'm not the one that gets to triage what's important and what's not for our product lifecycle
[22:58] <ohzie> question_: this one
[22:58] <Firefishe> alberto:  you're welcome.  happy to help :)
[22:58] <natrixnatrix89> ohzie: thanks but will it support infrastructure mode?
[22:58] <Firefishe> question_: Just ask.
[22:58] <olivier> don't worry 'bout looking dumb, just ask ;)
[22:58] <natrixnatrix89> because ad-hoc is not recognized by many devices
[22:58] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: That depends on your hardware and what drive you use.
[22:58] <dlynes> Jordan_U, upgrading to 10.04 is important, but it's about 30 tasks down from the top of the mole hill right now
[22:58] <timmybobcat14> "Could not update ICE Authority file /home/myname/.ICEauthority"
[22:58] <Loshki> timmybobcat14: try http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/iceauthority-error-in-ubuntu-8-10-a-681312/ -- the post by arizonagroovejet is what I'd try next...
[22:59] <Zahrada> I've got a quick question.
[22:59] <natrixnatrix89> ohzie: for example my cell phone is android. And its so easy to turn that in ap. just click enable tethering. and it becomes a wifi hotspot, and shares the internet from its 3g
[22:59] <Loshki> !ask | Zahrada
[22:59] <question_> i am kind of confused about using the /join channel vs what is already on the right side of this page in orange and in white
[22:59] <Jordan_U> dlynes: Unfortunately your corporate policies do not change this channel's policies. We do not support 9.04 here. Period.
[23:00] <timmybobcat14> Loshki-looks like I'm going to have to-try it I mean. All very trying really ain't it with linux...: B
[23:00] <Zahrada> Assuming /boot contains everything you need to get the os booting (grub included, I hope), how large does a partition have to be to contain it?
[23:00] <dlynes> Jordan_U, ah...thought that was just a ubuntu policy, not necessarily a channel policy
[23:00] <Loshki> timmybobcat14: either you like diy computing or you don't :-)
[23:01] <ohzie> Zahrada: I shoot for 100MB usually. That gives it room for a few kernels
[23:01] <question_> did anyone see my question? thanks
[23:01] <Zahrada> Thanks.
[23:01] <timmybobcat14> Loshki-Well I wouldn't buy a motorcar if I was going to have be diying it all the time. Would you?
[23:01] <ohzie> question_: Not sure what you're asking
[23:02] <Zahrada> I'm really just starting to explore Linux (through Ubuntu), as my old platform just doesn't do the trick anymore (OS/2)
[23:02] <question_> how do i go about joining c=a channel on the right side of this page. double click in the channel?
[23:02] <Loshki> timmybobcat14: some people would buy a motorcar just so they could fiddle with it...
[23:02] <Zahrada> And I must say, it's awesome.
[23:02] <ohzie> question_: what page
[23:03] <Thedemon007> Hola alguien habla español?
[23:03] <rww> !es | Thedemon007
[23:03] <question_> on the right side here with different channels. i see users on top and channels on the bottom.
[23:03] <naeluh> hi I am trying to update my mysql database from 5.0 to 5.1 and I having some serious problems any one know where ther eis some good documentation or know how to do this
[23:03] <suicidolt> wow, all these computer experts and nobody knows the answer...
[23:04] <naeluh> I am running ubuntu 9.04
[23:04] <xangua> !attitude | suicidolt
[23:04] <xangua> naeluh: upgrade to a stable and supported release, served ;)
[23:04] <timmybobcat14> Loshki-I know but so many people wouldn't either because they haven't got the time, or the mind power, or just simply want something that will take them confortably from point a to point b with having to get under the bonnet every 5 minutes.
[23:05] <suicidolt> sorry xangua
[23:05] <rww> naeluh: Ubuntu 9.04 reached end-of-life status in October 2010, and is no longer supported in this channel. Please see the EOL Upgrade information ubottu's about to send you.
[23:05] <ohzie> question_: 'here' is a noun usually defined by being in a similar location, or pointing, or something indicating what 'here' is representing, as a word. I don't understand where your 'here' is.
[23:05] <rww> !eol > naeluh
[23:05] <Zahrada> anyhoo I'm off
[23:06] <Zahrada> thanks for the help (and all the fish, I suppose?)
[23:06] <timmybobcat14> Loshki-you can see-well I certainly can why a lot of ordinary people would give up on lnx and go for the comercial competitor.
[23:07] <timmybobcat14> Oh well guess it's reinstall nunber 106 again then...
[23:07] <Loshki> timmybobcat14: linux is not for everyone. There's no shame in going to an 'alternative' if that suits you better....
[23:08] <suicidolt> My touchpad no longer has multitouch.  I found a website: http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2009/03/multi-touch-for-anyall-synaptics.html  but it's greek to me
[23:08] <Murtoc> hey i need help
[23:09] <naeluh> does it matter if I am a server and not a computer?
[23:09] <ohzie> naeluh: a server is a computer, isn't it?
[23:09] <Murtoc> I was running SSH fine and after i stoped my apatche server i cannot ssh into my computer
[23:09] <naeluh> I mean I am on a cloud server
[23:09] <timmybobcat14> Loshki-you mean like buying motor car that won't break down every 5 mintues or that you don't need a degree in mechinacal engineering  in order to keep working. No no shame at all-common sense really at the end of the day.
[23:10] <ohzie> naeluh: you're on a virtual machine
[23:10] <rww> naeluh: no, 9.04 isn't LTS, so the end-of-life deadline is 18 months from release for server and desktop.
[23:10] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: What were you doing with Ubuntu when it broke
[23:10] <mdkess> Question: Say I have a file that has a bunch of multiple line records separated by '----'. Each record has a "Date=234343434323" line with an epoch timestamp on it. Is there any way that I can sort the records in this file by date (without having to write a perl script or such)?
[23:10] <naeluh> rww: cool thanks
[23:11] <s5fs> suicidolt: what part is greek?
[23:12] <oven_> dumb question, but can someone tell me if I installed 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu
[23:12] <oven_> here is my uname -a results, Linux oven 2.6.35-27-generic-pae #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 22 21:46:58 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:12] <s5fs> oven_: looks 32bit to me
[23:12] <mdkess> oven_, try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[23:12] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- is it broke? Isn't there a simple solution to the problem? I am after all using it to reply to you-albeit in limited failsafe graphics mode. I suspect the problem arose in my ham fisted attempt to manually install it on my hard drive. But of course Ubuntu was broke before I made that attempt but that again was something that I suspect could have been easily corrected if I paid an technician to come to my haouse and  repair
[23:12] <timmybobcat14>  it.
[23:13] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[23:13] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: What I mean is, what is the problem that you are currently experiencing.
[23:13] <Murtoc> i am not able to ssh into a computer after i shut down the apatche2 server i had on that computer
[23:13] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[23:13] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: Hold please.
 what am I looking for in those results? I know I have a 64 bit processor but I think the disc I just used might have been 32 bit accidentally
[23:14] <mdkess> oven_ err I mean /proc/version
[23:14] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: did you encrypt your home partition on install?
[23:14] <suicidolt> s5fs: what is it asking me to do?
[23:14] <Murtoc> no
[23:15] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ha ha ha I wouldn't know how. Unless I did so by accident.
[23:15] <oven_> cat /proc/version
[23:15] <oven_> Linux version 2.6.35-27-generic-pae (buildd@palmer) (gcc version 4.4.5 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.4.4-14ubuntu5) ) #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 22 21:46:58 UTC 2011
[23:15] <timmybobcat14> ohzie-how about my permissions-do you think the answer lies there?
[23:15] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: It actually asks you "do you want to encrypt your home partition?"
[23:15] <hihihi100> k
[23:15] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: it's very simple but can cause problems if your hardware hates it
[23:16] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: what are the other sdb partitions doing?
[23:16] <mdkess> oven_ that's a 32 bit kernel, same as uname -a I guess.
[23:16] <pylix> how do i redirect the terminals output to a txt file?
[23:16] <timmybobcat14> ozie-let me just start gparted...
[23:16] <oven_> yeah alright, thanks
[23:16] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: for that matter, what is sda doing
[23:16] <s5fs> suicidolt: well, first off, are you certain that your hardware supports multitouch?
[23:17] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: is this a very complicated multiboot?
[23:17] <suicidolt> yes, it was working in windows
[23:17] <mdkess> oven_ if it was 64 bits, it should say something like i686_64 at the end of the uname -a line
[23:17] <s5fs> suicidolt: okay, but it hasn't worked in linux so far?
[23:17] <suicidolt> it didn't work automatically, but that seems standard
[23:18] <s5fs> oven_: here's my uname -a, i'm a 64bit system
[23:18] <s5fs> oven_: Linux zoidberg 2.6.35-27-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 22 20:25:46 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:19] <s5fs> suicidolt: okay, the article is essentially a step-by-step
[23:19] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - the machine has two hard drives: sda with linux mint 10, and this drive sdb which has Ubuntu 1004 and ubuntu 9.04 and a broken ubuntu 8.04 on it. This Ubuntu 10.04 has the problem. The 9.04 works very well with no problems
[23:19] <s5fs> suicidolt: you create a new file, paste the crap from the article into the file, save it, then run a command
[23:19] <oven_> thanks. I'm going to burn a new disc and reinstall I guess
[23:20] <suicidolt> right, I guess there's 2 concerns here on my end.  1: how do I do what it's telling me to do (where do I go, etc) and 2: what is it doing, so I don't mess up my system doing something I don't understand
[23:20] <s5fs> suicidolt: ah, that's a better question :-D
[23:21] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: Can you mount your home partition?
[23:21] <s5fs> suicidolt: i'll be honest, i'm not exactly sure what is going on in the article, but i am willing to hazard a guess.
[23:21] <suicidolt> can we start with where I go to type in all that stuff?
[23:21] <s5fs> suicidolt: it appears that you are creating some sort of policy file, placing it into a specific location, and then restarting the service that will read that config and enable multitouch
[23:22] <Murtoc> need ssh help
[23:22] <ohzie> Murtoc: what's wrong?
[23:22] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- gparted is telling me mounted on /home
[23:22] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: close gparted and open up a terminal
[23:22] <s5fs> suicidolt: pathing is in the commands already. so, go ahead and open up a terminal and then paste in the first command (the gksudo gedit /etc/hal line)
[23:23] <Murtoc> ever sence my friend stoped my apatche server i cant ssh into that computer
[23:23] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- ok
[23:23] <suicidolt> ok, and that is creating the file? where is the file so I can find it later?
[23:23] <timmybobcat14> ohzie-opened
[23:23] <suicidolt> side note -- just found out where the terminal was
[23:23] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: df -h
[23:23] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: gimme the sdb7 line
[23:24] <s5fs> suicidolt: here's the command, let's break it down:  "gksudo gedit /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi"
[23:24] <s5fs> suicidolt: gksudo will enable your user to run as "root"
[23:24] <s5fs> suicidolt: gedit is the text editor you will be using
[23:24] <suicidolt> so gksudo differs from sudo how?
[23:24] <s5fs> suicidolt: beats me, can't say i use it
[23:25] <timmybobcat14> ohzie-        /dev/sdb7              63G  251M   59G   1% /home
[23:25]  * suicidolt facepalms.
[23:25] <ohzie> suicidolt: gnome toolkit
[23:25] <s5fs> suicidolt: i'd say you can probably safely use regular sudo
[23:25] <ohzie> suicidolt: it's graphical sudo
[23:25] <ohzie> s5fs: in terminal yes but not in run
[23:25] <suicidolt> what does that mean ohzie?
[23:25] <s5fs> suicidolt: look man, i don't admin gui systems, i don't know everything.
[23:25] <ohzie> suicidolt: it means pictures
[23:25] <suicidolt> I know what graphical means
[23:26] <suicidolt> what is the difference between sudo and graphical sudo? what is its application?
[23:26] <s5fs> suicidolt: sounds like its what you wanna do when you use "run" (alt-f2)
[23:26] <ohzie> suicidolt: open a terminal and run sudo gedit. Then run gksu gedit. That's the difference
[23:26] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - sorry hadn't closed gparted                          /dev/sdb7              63G  251M   59G   1% /home
[23:26] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: no that's fine
[23:27] <s5fs> suicidolt: however, if you are running from a console then sudo is fine
[23:27] <suicidolt> ok, thanks
[23:27] <suicidolt> that makes sense now
[23:27] <suicidolt> ok
[23:27] <suicidolt> thanks s5fs
[23:27] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: type "cd ~" and then do "cd .." and then "ls -o"
[23:27] <s5fs> suicidolt: np. the last argument to the command is the full path to the file.
[23:28] <s5fs> suicidolt: so, assuming you create the file, paste the stuff in and it doesn't work, i think you can just delete the file and restart hal
[23:28] <Murtoc> need ssh help
[23:28] <thebigham> I'm thinking about switching to ubuntu. But are there any program for c++ programming ??
[23:28] <sexysara> quick question here... I been used to use Ubuntu 9.04, now I use Lucid.... is it better to stay on a LTS release or non LTS?
[23:28] <sexysara> using*
[23:29] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ok done that
[23:29] <s5fs> sexysara: how long do you go between reinstalls?
[23:29] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: give me the line for your home directory
[23:29] <lighta> thebigham, , eclipse, netbeans, codeblocks... what do you need ?
[23:29] <sexysara> this is my second install as it were
[23:29] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: the front part is the important part, the letters and dashes
[23:29] <rww> sexysara: LTS, if you update infrequently enough that you were still on Ubuntu 9.04.
[23:29] <Firefishe> thebigham: There are many ways to program in c++ using ubuntu.  I use an IDE called Code::Blocks, for example.
[23:30] <Fredrick> what is a lamp server used for? i was told i should add it to my desktop insta
[23:30] <timmybobcat14> ohzie -                  drwxr-xr-x 30 mal   4096 2011-03-15 23:02
[23:30] <Fredrick> install**
[23:30] <sexysara> I sued 9.04 of 2 months, then I did a clean install for Luicd.... not sure if I should stay here or upgrade to Mavrick
[23:30] <sexysara> used*
[23:30] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: the first char determines what the file is. - for a regular file, d for a directory, other things for other things
[23:30] <s5fs> Fredrick: lamp is a web server
[23:30] <s5fs> Fredrick: it stands for "linux, apache, mysql, php"
[23:30] <Murtoc> can anyone help me with ym ssh problem
[23:30] <Hilikus> hey guys
[23:31] <Murtoc> hi
[23:31] <Hilikus> to run windows games what's better, wine or virtualbox?
[23:31] <Fredrick> oh, why would i want that in my desktp, and not a server? thanks s5fs
[23:31] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: the next characters come in three sets of three, read, write, and execute. the first set is you, the second is your group, the third is everyone else. the last character is the sticky bit. Don't worry about the sticky bit until later. It's complicated and varies from flavor to flavor.
[23:31] <Murtoc> you guys are useless
[23:31] <s5fs_away> Fredrick: helpful if you are doing local web development
[23:32] <Counterspell> Can Ubuntu 10.10 32-bit support 6GB of RAM?
[23:32] <ohzie> Counterspell: no
[23:32] <ohzie> Counterspell: I mean it'll run, it won't break
[23:32] <ohzie> Counterspell: but it won't use all your ram
[23:32] <rww> Counterspell: With PAE, which is enabled by default if it detects you need it, yes.
[23:32] <Counterspell> ohzie, that's what i thought, why is 64-bit "recommended"?
[23:32] <rww> !pae
[23:32] <ohzie> Counterspell: so you can use all your ram
[23:32] <ohzie> Counterspell: Duh. :-P
[23:33] <rww> Counterspell: 32-bit is recommended on the Downloads page because a lot more consumer computers support 32-bit than 64-bit.
[23:33] <Counterspell> ohzie, no i mean 32-bit lol sorry
[23:33] <rww> Counterspell: if your computer works with 64-bit, get 64-bit.
[23:33] <Counterspell> i see
[23:33] <ohzie> Counterspell: Oh because 64 bit introduces some complications.
[23:33] <Counterspell> thanks for the info
[23:33] <Counterspell> i am currently running 10.04 64-bit
[23:33] <ohzie> Counterspell: not all apps have working 64 bit builds.
[23:33] <Counterspell> but i am having trouble with Wacom drivers
[23:33] <ohzie> Counterspell: don't switch to 32 unless you have problems
[23:33] <ohzie> Counterspell: and even then, there are ways to run the 32 bit apps in a chroot
[23:33] <ohzie> Counterspell: with 32 bit libraries
[23:34] <ohzie> Counterspell: and if you're willing to put up with that, it's so much better for your system to run 64 bit.
[23:34] <Counterspell> which Xorg comes with 10.10?
[23:34] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: do me a favor
[23:34] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: you're still in /home right?
[23:34] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ok em does it look like I have the 3 sets of three there.  I also have a lost + found folder for some reason in this home directory. Is that usual?
[23:34] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- yes still in home
[23:35] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: yes
[23:35] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: the lost and found is normal because you've set your home aside as a separate partition
[23:35] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: every partition should have its own, more or less
[23:35] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ok. What do you want me to do?
[23:35] <dacaro> hi i need help, how can i active extra visual effect ?
[23:36] <Hilikus> to run windows games what's better, wine or virtualbox?
[23:36] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: sec
[23:36] <ohzie> I want to make sure I have this exactly right
[23:36] <dacaro> somebody help me?
[23:36] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- that's important : b
[23:37] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: and your home folder is /home/mal ?
[23:37] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- correct
[23:37] <dacaro> please help me...
[23:37] <dacaro> grrrrr...
[23:37] <rww> !helpme
[23:37] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: "sudo chown -R mal:mal /home/mal" then "sudo chmod -R 770 /home/mal"
[23:37] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: that will fix any permission issues you might have
[23:38] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: and I think you have an ownership issue on your home folder
[23:38] <[thor]> dacaro: what brand of video card do you have?
[23:38] <dacaro> see my doubt
[23:38] <dacaro> nvidia
[23:39] <rafal_> R@fal
[23:39] <[thor]> dacaro: go to System > Administrator > Additional Hardware
[23:39] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- should I do sudo su for this?
[23:39] <yng18> !son
[23:40] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: no what I gave you is fine
[23:40] <dacaro_> done
[23:40] <toosugar> ciau!
[23:40] <dacaro_> done
[23:40] <[thor]> dacaro_: did it have drivers listed for your hardware?
[23:41] <timmybobcat14> ohzie -   chown: cannot access `/home/mal/.gvfs': Permission denied
[23:41] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: you didn't sudo
[23:41] <[thor]> dacaro_: please use this channel, i do not accept /msg
[23:41] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: one second
[23:42] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: go into /home/mal
[23:42] <ohzie> and do
[23:42] <ohzie> "ls -Ao | grep gvfs"
[23:42] <jesse__> hi
[23:42] <dacaro_> ok
[23:42] <dacaro_> i read now
[23:43] <dacaro_> _> wait
 is aditional hardware?
 im my ubuntu dont have aditional hardware
 only hava hardware drivers
[23:43] <FloodBot1> dacaro_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:43] <[thor]> dacaro_: yes. hardware drivers is correct
[23:43] <rww> dacaro_: They're the same thing. The name of that program in the menu changes pretty much every release >.>
[23:43] <dacaro_> Nvidia version 173
[23:43] <[thor]> dacaro_: is it enabled? ( green light )
[23:44] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ok in mal
[23:44] <dacaro_> yes
[23:44] <ohzie> timmybobcat14:
[23:44] <ohzie> "ls -Ao | grep gvfs"
[23:44] <[thor]> dacaro_: that should be enough to enable the "Extra" visual effects
[23:44] <dacaro_> when i active extra visual efects
[23:45] <dacaro_> appear a msg error
[23:45] <sexysara> are you using Compiz?
[23:45] <dacaro_> visual effects cant enabled
[23:45] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ok what do you need?
[23:45] <sexysara> you can use Compiz and Emerald
[23:45] <dacaro_> compiz i dont know
[23:45] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: it printed one single line, I'd like that line please.
[23:45] <rww> !emerald
[23:46] <[thor]> dacaro_: video card might not support 3D acceleration
[23:46] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- I seem to have 2 lines here ...
[23:46] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: AHH!
[23:46] <dacaro_> but when i log like root
[23:46] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: please provide them
[23:46] <dacaro_> i active normal
[23:46] <sexysara> hmmm, Ubottu, I been using Compiz and Emerald on Lucid just fine, nor bugs at all for me at least
[23:46] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- beg your pardon only one line...: b
[23:46] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: oh okay
[23:46] <ohzie> lol
[23:47] <dacaro_> emerald is it repository?
[23:47] <sexysara> yes its in Repo
[23:47] <timmybobcat14> ohzie-      dr-x------  2 mal     0 2011-03-15 21:59 .gvfs
[23:47] <sexysara> apt-cache search it or open the manger thingy
[23:47] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: kk cool beans
[23:47] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: do me a favor
[23:47] <dacaro_> ok
[23:48] <dacaro_> but i want resolve my problem
[23:48] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: reboot and see if you have the same problem. I'll be in here, but use my name so it hilights
[23:48] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ok
[23:48] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: you can send me a pm if I don't respond in a minute or two
[23:48] <Note-book> I download ubuntu and then installed KDE straight away so I don't know if it's KDE but my system runs really slow. 1.83 Core Duo / 1 GB RAM / NVIDIA GeForce GO 7400
[23:48] <ohzie> Note-book: Yeah, turn off all the decorator effects on KDE
[23:48] <sexysara> brb
[23:49] <dacaro_> how active by terminal visual effects extra?
[23:49] <ohzie> Note-book: it should run a lot smoother after than
[23:49] <ohzie> that*
[23:49] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ok I'll reboot now thanks for your help hopefully back with good nus.
[23:49] <Note-book> ohzie, I did. I have almost all effects turned off. But it's sluggish to the extent of this text being typed appear in jerks.
[23:50] <ohzie> Note-book: Oh man I bet it's your video driver
 how active by terminal visual effects extra?
[23:50] <ohzie> Note-book: and I don't know how to fix that problem because the newest ubuntu doesn't print an xorg.conf unless everything breaks or something like that and I haven't learned how to fix it yet
[23:50] <irs> hello
[23:50] <dacaro_> test
[23:50] <ohzie> Note-book: but that sounds like a graphics driver problem to me
[23:50] <dacaro_> how active by terminal visual effects extra?
[23:51] <dacaro_> am i online?
[23:51] <aeon-ltd> dacaro_: yes
[23:51] <[thor]> dacaro_: have you tried asking in #ubuntu-br ?
[23:51] <dacaro_> lol thanks
[23:51] <Note-book> ohzie, Thank you. Changing as we speak.
[23:51] <dacaro_> yes
[23:51] <sexysara> Dararo... go... Edit --> Profile Prefreces -- > Backround.... then uncheck all the boxes but the transparteny
[23:51] <dacaro_> brasilians are ignorantes
[23:51] <[thor]> hah
[23:52] <ohzie> dacaro_: I'm going to copy that sentence and use it whenever anyone asks my why racism is funny.
[23:52] <ge0rge> exit
[23:52] <dacaro_> i am brazilian
[23:52] <dacaro_> ignorants dont racism
[23:53] <rww> Comments about peoples' country or race are offtopic for this channel, thanks. Let's get back to Ubuntu technical support.
[23:53] <BoBo_> ok I am having trouble setting up a websever on ubuntu
[23:53] <banker247> does furious ISO mount to a drive letter? i'm unable to find it.
[23:54] <illmortal> does anyone know what email client will connect to exchange server 2010? Or is it too early for that compatibility to exist right now?
[23:54] <dacaro_> i want know how can i active by code the visual efects extra?
[23:54] <pjtmsbbto>   hey guise, #archlinux is way better.
[23:54] <pjtmsbbto>   hey guise, #archlinux is way better.
[23:54] <pjtmsbbto>   hey guise, #archlinux is way better.
[23:54] <xynxueyme>   hey guise, #archlinux is way better.
[23:54] <FloodBot1> pjtmsbbto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <[thor]> banker247: it mounts to /home/<yourusername>/
[23:55] <lighta> hey guys is there a way to coment a block in gedit ? (insert // in front)
[23:55] <morissette> anyone wanna give this a go: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10564230#post10564230
[23:55] <morissette> lighta, what are you trying to comment out?
[23:55] <lighta> a C block
[23:55] <lighta> I don't want to use /* */
[23:55] <BoBo_> I guess its more of a routing issue with ubuntu i have 2 rounters one infront of the other when i forward port 80 one one to the other then to my windows pc it works great if i then switch it to my linux pc it wont load from the outside ip adress but it works from all the other adresses
[23:55] <[thor]> banker247: in fact, it shows the mount point at the bottom panel of FuriosISO
[23:55] <lighta> just want to know if there a trick about gedit
[23:56] <morissette> lighta, I use vim personally
[23:56] <banker247> [thor], yea i see that thers no drive letter.. its just /home/whatever..
[23:56] <banker247> so it mounts to c?
[23:56] <[thor]> banker247: so that's where it mounts.. there are no drive letters in linux
[23:56] <ohzie> lighta: gedit is immensely simple. You might try kate for more complicated things
[23:56] <dacaro_> aaaaaaaa I hate myself
[23:57] <jake> I am trying to hook up my i pod shuffle to put songs on it can someone help?
[23:57] <bl4ckcomb> jake, have you tried gtk-pod?
[23:57] <jake> not yet
[23:58] <lighta> how would I do this with vim ? used to nano instead vim
[23:58] <bl4ckcomb> jake, I've used it earlier for an iPod Nano 3th gen
[23:58] <dacaro_> I want to know how to enable the terminal to option extra visual effects, is there any way? Yes or no?
[23:58] <jake> Yes it couldn't find it also its not even detecting the ipod on the computer
[23:58] <suicidolt> s5fs_away: sorry to continue this, but I got an error when I tried to save....I don't think the hal folder (is it called folder?) exists
[23:59] <BoBo_> any one think they could help me with that problem?
[23:59] <timmybobcat14> ohzie-oh my goodness you are a genius. Thank you v much.
[23:59] <Pici> dacaro_: Is there a reason you can't use the gui tool for that?
[23:59] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: I am not a genius, I just followed the error messages. =P
[23:59] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: may I ask, why is your system so complicated?
[23:59] <dacaro_> gui is in troubleGui is bug