[01:15] <kenvandine> thisfred, ok, will look at it
[02:47] <adorilson> hi, duanedesign
[02:54] <duanedesign> hello adorilson
[02:55] <adorilson> I think I told with you about a problem on Ubuntu One Control, and you tell me use the PPA version
[02:55] <adorilson> duanedesign: do you remember ?
[02:57] <duanedesign> adorilson:  yes
[02:58] <adorilson> great
[02:58] <adorilson> because, now, I have a new problem :-/
[02:58] <adorilson> I got the msg
[02:59] <adorilson> File Sync Error. (auth failed (AUTH_FAILED))
[02:59] <adorilson> duanedesign: any idea?
[03:00] <duanedesign> ok
[03:00] <duanedesign> hmm. looks like it might be an issue with your token
[03:01] <duanedesign> adorilson: where do you get this error?
[09:51] <ralsina> is it just me or the canonical server is down?
[09:51] <ralsina> the IRC server, that is
[10:06] <JamesTait> Oh, and good morning, everyone!
[10:06] <JamesTait> ralsina: The IRC server is working for me, but I can't get on Mumble.
[10:07] <ralsina> JamesTait: hmmm ok, I'll try resetting my IRC client's core or something. I see the server but looks like noone's there
[10:09] <ralsina> yup, it was me, thanks JamesTait!
[10:22] <JamesTait> ralsina: Welcome. :)
[11:03] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:14] <Komotive> Hello all
[12:14] <Komotive> I wonder if anyone can spare some time to help with an UbuntuOne issue I am experiencing?
[12:15] <beuno> Komotive, sure, what's up?
[12:17] <Komotive> I seem to be getting some undelete-able items in my couch db .... and the sync doesn't seem to work from desk to lap and viceversa
[12:17] <Komotive> I'm a bit of a linux novice - but getting there!
[12:19] <beuno> rye, ^
[12:20] <rye> beuno, on it
[12:20] <rye> Komotive, hi, are you talking about the undeletable items in evolution addressbook?
[12:20] <Komotive> yes
[12:21] <rye> Komotive, this is a known bug, let me dig it up
[12:21] <Komotive> Thank you!! - I have found a previous couchdb reset doc that I ran through ..... but it didn't seem to sol;ve the issue
[12:22] <rye> Komotive, bug #666303
[12:22] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 666303 in evolution-couchdb "Two empty contacts are displayed in Evolution and there is no way to delete them (affects: 9) (heat: 41)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/666303
[12:22] <Komotive> I have three and a further self created one that I cannot remove
[12:23] <Komotive> Failed to delete contact
[12:23] <Komotive> Other error
[12:24] <rye> Komotive, bug #673568
[12:24] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 673568 in evolution-couchdb (and 1 other project) "Error modifying contact, other error when saving contacts (affects: 41) (dups: 4) (heat: 211)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673568
[12:24] <rye> rodrigo_, poke, are you available for a comment regarding these bugs?
[12:24] <rodrigo_> rye, yes
[12:29] <Komotive> rye, those two bugs seem to be the issue I'm experiencing ....
[12:30] <rye> rodrigo_, have you been able to find out the reason behind additional non-removable contacts appearing in couchdb addressbook and whether editing/removal is going to be working?
[12:30] <rodrigo_> rye, not much, since u1 doesn't work on my box, as I have several gnome3 packages installed
[12:30] <rye> :(
[12:31] <rodrigo_> but will do as soon as I'm free from unity a11y stuff, which is taking all my time
[12:31] <Komotive> rod, rye - not an issue as seems to be cosmetic ..... however rye, also the synchronisation seems to be very slow to occur between the two machines?
[12:31] <rodrigo_> although one of those bugs should be fixed already in the nightlies, isn't it?
[12:58] <rodrigo_>  desktopcouch : Depends: python (< 2.7) but 2.7.1-0ubuntu5 is to be installed
[12:58] <rodrigo_>                 Depends: python-desktopcouch-application (= 1.0.6+r267~maverick1) but it is not going to be installed
[12:58] <rodrigo_> is this known with desktopcouch package?
[13:02] <thisfred> rodrigo_: not to me...
[13:03] <thisfred> rodrigo_: is that with nightlies, or plain natty?
[13:07] <rodrigo_> thisfred: natty + nightlies
[13:08] <thisfred> rodrigo, I'll fire up my natty box and see if I get it too
[13:09] <rodrigo_> thisfred: I'm not full up-to-date, so maybe that's it, although haven't been able to install desktopcouch in weeks
[13:10] <rodrigo_> so, trying an upgrade while I get lunch
[13:25] <ralsina> Everyone: current sso nightlies are very broken, update at your own risk
[13:26] <thisfred> ah, I just did :/
[13:26] <thisfred> luckily on both my machines :)
[13:26] <alecu> good morning #ubuntuone!
[13:27] <ralsina> thisfred: you can manually fix it by copying a file or two
[13:27] <ralsina> good morning alecu!
[13:27] <thisfred> ralsina: I'll see if it causes any problems, if not I'll just wait for the fix
[13:27] <thisfred> morning alecu
[13:28] <ralsina> thisfred: ok
[13:33] <thisfred> rodrigo, apt-cache show desktopcouch gives me: depends python (<< 2.8) python (>=2.7)
[13:34] <thisfred> so that looks ok, hopefully your upgrade fixes things too the
[13:34] <thisfred> n
[13:34] <thisfred> and that should probably be <<3.0 :)
[13:37] <joshuahoover> CardinalFang: ping
[13:58] <ralsina> alecu dobey thisfred mandel standup in 3'
[13:58] <thisfred> ackack
[13:59] <thisfred> ralsina:  could use a quick review on  https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-couch/release-0.2.0/+merge/53317 it's just a release tag, basically
[13:59] <ralsina> thisfred: got it
[13:59] <ralsina> thisfred: there you go
[14:00] <thisfred> thx!
[14:02] <ralsina> alecu dobey thisfred mandel standup!
[14:02] <ralsina> me
[14:02] <thisfred> me
[14:02] <mandel> me
[14:03] <dobey> meh
[14:03] <ralsina> alecu, ping?
[14:03] <alecu> sorry guys, in another vm
[14:03] <alecu> me
[14:04] <ralsina> DONE: reading code, reviews, organizing, canonicaladmin, etc.
[14:04] <ralsina> TODO: make sure we have a reasonable release soonish, send mail to invite testing, several calls
[14:04] <ralsina> BLOCKED: no
[14:04] <ralsina> thisfred!
[14:04] <thisfred> * DONE extract strings from u1-client and send to cparrino
[14:04] <thisfred> * DONE bug #729117 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-couch/fix-licenses/+merge/53045
[14:04] <thisfred> * DONE performance review ralsina
[14:04] <thisfred> * DONE bug #734985 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/lp-734985/+merge/53296
[14:04] <thisfred> * INPROGRESS get ubuntuone-couch into natty [1/2]
[14:04] <thisfred>  - [X] 0.2.0  https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-couch/release-0.2.0/+merge/53317
[14:04] <thisfred>  - [ ] bug #729117 get package sponsored
[14:04] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 729117 in ubuntu "[FFE] Add ubuntuone-couch to universe (affects: 2) (heat: 351)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729117
[14:04] <thisfred> * INPROGRESS bug #702172 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/quota-notifications
[14:04] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 734985 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "limit the status aggregator to use a single instance of platform.notifications.Notification (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734985
[14:04] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 702172 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "Syncdaemon needs to send a notification when a folder shared to the user exceeds the owning user's quota (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702172
[14:04] <thisfred> * INPROGRESS bug #728722 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-control-panel/dbusify
[14:04] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 728722 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu Natty) (and 5 other projects) "control panel should have a .service file so it can be opened through dbus (affects: 1) (heat: 343)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728722
[14:04] <thisfred> * TODO bug #702007
[14:04] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 702007 in desktopcouch (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "get_all_records does not return records with their attachments (affects: 1) (heat: 64)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702007
[14:04] <thisfred> * TODO bug #730661
[14:04] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 730661 in ubuntuone-client "progress bar does not show up in Unity or something (affects: 1) (heat: 62)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730661
[14:04] <thisfred> * TODO bug #721525 is back
[14:04] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 721525 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Two Ubuntu One entries in the Message Panel (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 24)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721525
[14:04] <thisfred> * TODO send prioritized bug list to ralsina
[14:04] <thisfred> * TODO performance self review
[14:04] <thisfred> * TODO peer review alecu
[14:04] <thisfred> * TODO peer review mandel
[14:04] <thisfred> * TODO peer review vds
[14:04] <thisfred> * LIKED: http://tinysong.com/r7Ue | http://microformats.org/wiki/hrecipe
[14:04] <thisfred> * NEXT: mandel
[14:05] <mandel> DONE: HR reviews. Updated code in trunk of sso client, this broke terribly. You can import wintypes on UNIX WTF!
[14:05] <mandel> TODO: Fix sso
[14:05] <mandel> BLOCKED: yes/no I need to think and look at the code
[14:05] <mandel> HATE: today, everything
[14:05] <mandel> dobey, please
[14:06] <dobey> λ DONE: apt-get upgrade, some more webkit research
[14:06] <dobey> λ TODO: new webkit api in libu1, bug #727558, bug #733327
[14:06] <dobey> λ BLCK: None.
[14:06] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 727558 in libubuntuone (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "Need to notify user when Purchased Music folder is not subscribed (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 295)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727558
[14:06] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 733327 in libubuntuone (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Notify user of missing MP3 support (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/733327
[14:08] <alecu> should I go?
[14:09] <thisfred> alecu: I think so
[14:09] <alecu> DONE: testing IRL branch to fix bug#692730 and bug #693545, up for review at: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/fix-zg-deletions/+merge/53345 Started working on other zeitgeist bugs
[14:09] <alecu> TODO: bug list, finish branch for bug #708145 and bug #711939, peer reviews
[14:09] <alecu> BLOCKED: no input on bug #729259
[14:09] <alecu> EOM!
[14:09] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 693545 in ubuntuone-client "ZeitgeistListener tracebacks on AQ_UNLINK_OK (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/693545
[14:09] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 708145 in ubuntuone-client "ZeitgeistListener tracebacks on AQ_CREATE_SHARE_OK (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708145
[14:09] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 711939 in ubuntuone-client "Tests show RuntimeError: Found no running zeitgeist-daemon instanc (affects: 1) (heat: 15)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711939
[14:09] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 729259 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "Scrollable list of devices looks broken (affects: 1) (heat: 852)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729259
[14:11] <dobey> alecu: oh, sorry. thought i was last
[14:11] <dobey> thisfred: your standup paste is too long.
[14:11] <alecu> force of habit :-)
[14:12] <thisfred> dobey: sure, blame me :P
[14:13] <dobey> outline mode + ubot4 printing all the bug info == pain
[14:14] <thisfred> I could put bug links directly instead of numbers that the bot expands. I'll try that tomorrow
[14:15] <dobey> thisfred: you could just put multiple items on a single line separated by commas LIKE A NORMAL PERSON
[14:15] <dobey> :)
[14:15] <thisfred> as for the outline mode: I just paste my todo.org. It saves me a lot of time, and I don't forget what I've done, which was often the case
[14:15] <dobey> i always forget what i did
[14:15] <ralsina> me too
[14:15] <dobey> beause i do too much
[14:15] <dobey> org mode wouldn't help me
[14:16] <thisfred> dobey: longer lines don't necessarily make things more readable. And if the point is that nobody reads the reports, so we should put less lines, then why are we doing them ;)
[14:16] <dobey> i don't know why we're doing them
[14:16]  * dobey already protested them
[14:17] <dobey> i sure don't read them
[14:18] <thisfred> dobey: it would if you added/changed a line whenever you switch context. or gtimelog, which may be easier
[14:18] <ralsina> I read them!
[14:19] <thisfred> I do to, at least when I suspect people are working on stuff that may concern me :)
[14:19] <thisfred> too
[14:20] <dobey> thisfred: but that assumes i remember to do that, and if i did, it doesn't matter if it's an entry on a single line, or if it's a new line.
[14:20] <thisfred> dobey: well, gtimelog/orgmode make it easier to track tasks on separate lines
[14:21] <alecu> btw, I read them all the time.
[14:21] <thisfred> dobey: and you will remember if you train yourself to, but that won't happen if you don't see the value
[14:21] <alecu> but yes, I found so long todo lists increasingly hard to read, too :-)
[14:22] <thisfred> ok, I'll see what I can do to minimize the pain
[14:23] <thisfred> I disagree that long lines make things more readable though. Less todo items would, but sometimes there's just a lot todo
[14:23] <thisfred> I should probably limit the todos to what I *know* I will work on today
[14:23] <thisfred> rather than vague hopes
[14:24] <thisfred> ok, thanks for that feedback all, I will better myself
[14:25] <dobey> thisfred: if you're going to read it, you're not reading it while people are pasting stuff anyway, and fewer lines makes it easier to follow the IRC. if you want to read it, you're going to scroll up at the end, and read it, because you have to, especially if people are pasting 30 lines of todo and 15 of those are bug #s
[14:26] <thisfred> yeah, so, I'll stop pasting bug numbers, and paste the urls directly, and try to severely limit the number of items
[14:28] <ralsina> thisfred: you could put the bug numbers, but not in a way that triggers ubot4
[14:28] <ralsina> because the URLs will be just very long
[14:29] <thisfred> ralsina: lp bug urls aren't that long, and useful for clicking on if you wonder what the bug is about. All the other stuff the bot pastes is not that useful.
[14:29] <thisfred> well, maybe the bug title, but I can summarize that more succinctly as well
[14:30] <ralsina> thisfred: so, maybe bug title and url? ok by me. We could make it a standard.
[14:30] <ralsina> I need to keep better logs of my activity :-(
[14:31] <dobey> let's just not have standups :)
[14:31] <thisfred> ralsina: I can recommend gtimelog if you need time tracking, it's very simple to get the hang of
[14:31] <thisfred> if not, and if you use emacs, org-mode is awesome, and as simple/complicated as you decide to make it
[14:31] <ralsina> thisfred: I will probably need a web-based thing, because I switch VMs and to/from windows too often
[14:31] <ralsina> no, emacs is not my thing :-)
[14:31] <thisfred> that's fine I won't judge ;)
[14:32] <thisfred> ralsina: at my old place of work we had a horrible web based time tracker which sucked so much we built a gtimelog plugin to fill it in :)
[14:45] <thisfred> ralsina: and we can use http://pad.lv to shorten the bug urls
[14:51]  * dobey still prefers the 'get rid of standup' solution :)
[16:17] <lalejand> Hi, I just updates U1 this morning, and ti crashes, and crashes, ...
[16:17] <lalejand> "updated"
[16:18] <lalejand> "it" (argh)
[16:20] <lalejand> here is the bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/735574
[16:20] <ubot4`> lalejand: Error: Bug #735574 is private.
[16:25] <thisfred> lalejand: I think this is a known problem, and mandel is working on it. He can probably give you the bug number
[16:25] <lalejand> thisfred : ok
[16:28] <mandel> lalejand: yes, there was an issue with the nightlies this morning where the .deb for sso was not correct, I have a temp solution if you need it
[16:28] <mandel> but it should be fixed by today
[16:28] <rye> mandel, it broke my lovely indicator :(
[16:28] <lalejand> mandel : I can wait :)
[16:29] <mandel> rye: it should brake everyhting, you can no longer access the credentiasl from sd :(
[16:30] <rye> mandel, aha
[16:30] <rye> mandel, that explains missing notifications from sd...
[16:31] <mandel> rye: funny thing happen when you fix distutils extra an windows modules...
[16:32] <rye> mandel, is there a bug report for that?
[16:34] <mandel> rye: yes, is bug #735383
[16:34] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 735383 in ubuntu-sso-client "Setup.py does not install the new modules that were added for multiplatform (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735383
[16:34] <rye> ok, it looks like people do not apport-report this now so don't add this to bugpatterns for now
[16:35] <dobey> rye: it's nightlies only
[16:36] <ralsina> and nightlies users are more... inured to breakage.
[16:36]  * ralsina double-checks inured on the dictionary
[16:37] <rye> dobey, well, how will developers know about the latest bugs w/o reports?
[16:38] <dobey> rye: well, bugpatterns are to suppress duplicates right? I don't expect that to generally be an issue with nightlies. :)
[18:35] <kenvandine> thisfred, have you tested installing ubuntuone-couch and making sure everything else in the ubuntuone namespace works?
[18:35]  * kenvandine is about to :)
[18:38] <thisfred> kenvandine: ah, no, I tested building the package, but have not installed the debs on my natty box
[18:38] <thisfred> can do so now
[18:38] <kenvandine> :)
[18:39] <thisfred> kenvandine: not everything in the u1 namespace currently works, because of ubuntu-sso breakage btw
[18:39] <kenvandine> ?
[18:39] <kenvandine> oh
[18:39] <kenvandine> so that is broken now in natty?
[18:39]  * kenvandine hadn't seen that
[18:39] <kenvandine> ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk and u1sdtool works
[18:40] <kenvandine> with u1-couch installed :)
[18:42] <kenvandine> thisfred, so how do i figure out what this urlpath thingy is that i need?
[18:44] <dobey> kenvandine: no, sso is broken in nightlies
[18:44] <dobey> and the only things that don't work are those that depend on ubuntu-sso-client. it has nothing to do with namespaces :)
[18:47] <kenvandine> dobey, ok... just want to know i am testing apples to apples
[18:47] <kenvandine> it doesn't seem to break things
[18:53] <nhaines> beuno: thanks for fixing bug 732352 :)
[18:53] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 732352 in ubuntuone-servers "U1 site header's "create on account" link is misspelled (affects: 1) (heat: 69)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/732352
[18:54] <beuno> nhaines, thanks for filing it!
[18:54] <nhaines> beuno: sometimes I do manage to make myself feel useful after all.  :)
[19:20] <dobey> blah. get over one hurdle, and run into another that's a foot taller.
[20:00] <ralsina> ok, EODing a bit early because I started a lot early. Bye people!
[20:35] <mandel> dobey: ping
[20:36] <dobey> mandel: hi
[20:36] <mandel> dobey: hello :)
[20:37] <mandel> I've made a merge proposal to fix ditutils-extra so that the setup.py works, you can find it in lp:~mandel/python-distutils-extra/import_issues i dont know how long it will take to get it approve, can we install it so that we fix nightlies?
[20:38] <mandel> I also have a branch that adds fixes sso setup.py and adds the comments so that the imports are ignored and not added as a dependency
[20:38] <dobey> you still need to fix sso
[20:38] <mandel> ralsina: ^
[20:39] <mandel> dobey: I already have.. well I need to propose the merge :)
[20:42] <dobey> and why can't you paste the https:// link to the merge proposal instead of the lp:~blah
[20:42] <dobey> srsly
[20:44] <mandel> dobey: he, that was for the distutils, which you can not approve, can you?
[20:44] <mandel> let me get you the sso one
[20:45] <mandel> https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/fix_735383/+merge/53515
[20:45] <mandel> there you go ^
[20:45] <dobey> i probably can approve the distutils-extra one
[20:46] <mandel> dobey:
[20:46] <dobey> but either way it's easier for me to grab the diff that launchpad already generated, than trying to find the merge proposal myself and deal with all that, or make a diff from your branch
[20:46] <dobey> it's always better to paste useful URLs regardless :)
[20:47] <mandel> dobey: hehe well, we should be able to add a bot that understands the lp shortcut, so do you want me to get you the distutils extra merge then?
[20:48] <dobey> yes please
[20:48] <mandel> here it is https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/python-distutils-extra/import_issues/+merge/53514
[20:48] <dobey> see how easy that was :)
[20:49] <dobey> oh, my membership on that team expired i guess
[20:49] <mandel> blah hehe
[20:50] <dobey> mandel: why did you use pyparsing instead of the built-in python regex module?
[20:52] <mandel> dobey: makes the hole thing easier.. but it can be easily changed
[20:52] <mandel> both use in both cases you use re
[20:53] <mandel> dobey: actualy for what we watch, the except ValueErro is all you need (it will add the pythoncom as a dependency, but the setup.py would work
[20:53] <mandel> do you want a brach like that better?
[20:54] <dobey> mandel: pyparsing is a new dependency
[20:54] <dobey> mandel: so you should avoid adding it if it's not absolutely necessary
[20:55] <mandel> dobey: ok, I'll get the valuerro fix, then I can think about the rest
[20:55] <mandel> dobey: will take me a min
[20:58] <dobey> ok
[21:01] <mandel> dobey: there you go https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/python-distutils-extra/import_issues/+merge/53519
[21:04] <mandel> dobey: I need to go, is very late here, catch u later
[21:04] <dobey> night
[21:44] <dobey> my brain hurts. later all