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| vKompff | has anyone gotten ffado to work with a presonus firebox? | 02:32 |
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| Curly_Q | Greetings folks. | 05:37 |
| Curly_Q | I just happened upon the Ubuntu Studio ISO. | 05:37 |
| Curly_Q | Before I install it any comments on it? | 05:37 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: sure | 05:38 |
| holstein | what are you planning on doing? | 05:38 |
| holstein | do you have ubuntu installed now? | 05:38 |
| Curly_Q | Lots of stuff. | 05:38 |
| holstein | just plain ubuntu? | 05:38 |
| Curly_Q | I am always looking for new stuff for my Recording Studio. | 05:38 |
| Curly_Q | I use Kubuntu Server here. Do I need to reinstall the studio ISO? | 05:39 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: what do you mean? | 05:39 |
| holstein | kubuntu server? | 05:39 |
| Curly_Q | I have a Server Kubuntu. | 05:39 |
| holstein | you mean ubuntu server? | 05:39 |
| Curly_Q | Yes. | 05:39 |
| holstein | the k in kubuntu implies KDE | 05:40 |
| holstein | and the server installs are usually without a desktop | 05:40 |
| Curly_Q | Whatever Distro you want to call it. It is still Linux. | 05:40 |
| holstein | is that the case? | 05:40 |
| holstein | you have a server installation? | 05:40 |
| holstein | without X ? | 05:40 |
| Curly_Q | Well, the question is: Is there an apt-get for Ubuntustudio? | 05:40 |
| Curly_Q | I have X installed. I use VNC tunneling for that. | 05:41 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: OK | 05:41 |
| holstein | so, you have an ubuntu installation | 05:41 |
| Curly_Q | Yes. | 05:41 |
| holstein | you started with a server installation disc? | 05:41 |
| holstein | and added KDE? | 05:41 |
| Curly_Q | Well, I have a lot of computers here, I was just considering what would be the best way to install ubutustudio. | 05:42 |
| holstein | OK | 05:42 |
| holstein | if you open up synaptic | 05:42 |
| holstein | or whatever package manager | 05:42 |
| holstein | and search ubuntustudio | 05:42 |
| holstein | you'll see the metapackage | 05:42 |
| holstein | BUT | 05:42 |
| holstein | you dont even need them | 05:43 |
| holstein | you can just install what you want | 05:43 |
| holstein | jack and ardour | 05:43 |
| holstein | i usually do | 05:43 |
| Curly_Q | Installation should be no problem for me. I was wondering what features this ISO has that would make me want to brag about it. | 05:43 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins | 05:43 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: usually, if you already have ubuntu installed | 05:43 |
| holstein | its more trouble than its worth | 05:43 |
| holstein | theres no live CD for ubuntustudio | 05:44 |
| holstein | its hard to do a USB install | 05:44 |
| Curly_Q | I was thinking in terms of setting up a laptop with ubuntustudio. A whole different installation. | 05:44 |
| holstein | right | 05:44 |
| holstein | on the laptop | 05:44 |
| holstein | your not going to get the network manager | 05:44 |
| holstein | out of the box | 05:44 |
| holstein | with ubuntustudio | 05:44 |
| holstein | SO, that'll be the first 'gotcha' | 05:44 |
| holstein | no wireless | 05:45 |
| Curly_Q | I can format a USB 64 gig memory stick for that. That is what I was thinking. | 05:45 |
| holstein | totally do-able | 05:45 |
| holstein | its just... | 05:45 |
| holstein | you can get the ubuntu vanilla live cd | 05:45 |
| holstein | install it | 05:45 |
| holstein | and start trying out software | 05:45 |
| holstein | JACK and ardour | 05:45 |
| holstein | qtractor | 05:45 |
| Curly_Q | Is there an ISO for the vanilla? | 05:45 |
| holstein | yeah | 05:45 |
| holstein | just the normal live CD | 05:45 |
| Curly_Q | Will this stuff work with Audio Kontrol hardware? | 05:46 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: link it up | 05:46 |
| holstein | i have no idea what that is | 05:46 |
| Curly_Q | What do you mean? | 05:46 |
| holstein | audio kontrol hardware | 05:46 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: USB or firewire? | 05:47 |
| Curly_Q | Audio Kontrol is a hardware box that works with Windows Native Instruments software like Guitar Rig. | 05:47 |
| Curly_Q | Audio Kontrol 1 is a USB device. | 05:47 |
| holstein | i dont see in on the list | 05:48 |
| holstein | http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main | 05:48 |
| Curly_Q | It has multiple guitar amps like Marshal and Fender amps. | 05:48 |
| holstein | amp sims? | 05:48 |
| Curly_Q | It does also have the ALSA drivers too. But for Windows. | 05:48 |
| holstein | anyways, i would get a live CD | 05:49 |
| holstein | unless you want to plug it into whatever computer you already have ubuntu installed on | 05:49 |
| holstein | and run a few commands | 05:49 |
| holstein | in a terminal | 05:49 |
| holstein | you want to run | 05:49 |
| Curly_Q | I do know that there dome enthusiasts who do work with Linux and Native instruments. | 05:49 |
| holstein | lsusb | 05:49 |
| holstein | after pluging the device in | 05:49 |
| holstein | IF you see it there | 05:49 |
| holstein | you want to run | 05:49 |
| holstein | aplay -l | 05:49 |
| holstein | and | 05:50 |
| holstein | arecord -l | 05:50 |
| holstein | IF you see the device there ^^ | 05:50 |
| holstein | it should be useable by JACK | 05:50 |
| holstein | without any more hassle | 05:50 |
| holstein | if not, then you'll just have to start googling around | 05:50 |
| Curly_Q | Does this software or ISO kernel or whatever you want to call it act as a guitar fuzz box or distortion amp and things like that with echo and flanging? | 05:50 |
| holstein | and asking on formus | 05:50 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: there are programs | 05:51 |
| holstein | that do effects processing | 05:51 |
| Curly_Q | That is what I am interested in the add ons. | 05:51 |
| holstein | rakarrack is the one i really like | 05:51 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: JACK is what you'll want to learn | 05:51 |
| holstein | there is a different workflow to linux audio | 05:51 |
| Curly_Q | Is there a web link that has all of this stuff available? | 05:51 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: theres not one over all web link | 05:52 |
| Curly_Q | I see. | 05:52 |
| holstein | http://jackaudio.org/ | 05:52 |
| Curly_Q | I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. | 05:52 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: check out #opensourcemusicians | 05:52 |
| holstein | theres a podshow | 05:52 |
| holstein | and all kinds of different users | 05:52 |
| holstein | making all different kinds of music with these tools | 05:53 |
| Curly_Q | I bookmarked those links. Thanks. | 05:53 |
| holstein | and others | 05:53 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: sure, anytime :) | 05:53 |
| Curly_Q | I play lead guitar. | 05:53 |
| holstein | cool | 05:53 |
| holstein | i play lead bass ;) | 05:53 |
| Curly_Q | I do lots of Hendrix and Jimi Page style. | 05:53 |
| holstein | nice | 05:54 |
| holstein | i play mostly jazz | 05:54 |
| Curly_Q | My maing preocupation is Computer Scientist. | 05:54 |
| Curly_Q | I love jazz. | 05:54 |
| Curly_Q | Nice choice. | 05:54 |
| holstein | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RnThpo0Atk#t=2m50s | 05:55 |
| Curly_Q | I play lots of Blues like Stevie Ray Vaughn. | 05:55 |
| Curly_Q | Is that your band? | 05:55 |
| holstein | well, i freelance | 05:55 |
| holstein | thats a piano player i play with often | 05:55 |
| holstein | i dont really do 'bands' | 05:56 |
| Curly_Q | Are you playing in that video? | 05:56 |
| Curly_Q | It is nice though. | 05:56 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: thats me on the basso :) | 05:56 |
| holstein | lead bass | 05:56 |
| Curly_Q | Hey that's nice. Good work. | 05:57 |
| holstein | thanks | 05:57 |
| Curly_Q | I do lots of flamenco guitar work as well as electronic rock and blues. I do lots of improv jazz. | 05:58 |
| holstein | right on | 05:59 |
| Curly_Q | Is that piece on youtube improv? It seems so. | 06:00 |
| holstein | well, i started it at my solo | 06:00 |
| holstein | and im improvising over the form | 06:00 |
| holstein | but the tune is the piano players tune | 06:01 |
| Curly_Q | I can see. Most jazz is though. I like it though. | 06:01 |
| holstein | he plays the melody after im finished soloing | 06:01 |
| Curly_Q | It is a lot of fun to get carried away playing. | 06:01 |
| Curly_Q | I have met lots of musicians that hate improve. They cannot play anything without sheet music. That to me is boring. | 06:02 |
| holstein | eh, i try and do both | 06:02 |
| holstein | im not a fast sight reader though really | 06:02 |
| Curly_Q | Improvisation is the only way to become creative. | 06:03 |
| holstein | i can respect those hard-core classical players though | 06:03 |
| Curly_Q | I can read music but I don't read it. | 06:03 |
| holstein | yo-yo-ma and the like | 06:03 |
| holstein | really good interpreters of the page | 06:03 |
| Curly_Q | Yo-yo-ma is an exception. | 06:03 |
| holstein | thats a whole other skill | 06:03 |
| holstein | reading what someone else writes | 06:04 |
| holstein | and playing it lyrically | 06:04 |
| holstein | or whatever it takes to convey the story | 06:04 |
| Curly_Q | Reading music cramps my style. | 06:04 |
| Curly_Q | I taught myself how to listen to something and then just play it. I don't need sheet music. | 06:04 |
| holstein | i hear you | 06:04 |
| holstein | but, as miles davis said 'freedom is in itself ultimately limiting' | 06:05 |
| Curly_Q | I teach guitar lessons though which is an irony of the whole thing. I make $75.00/hour doing it. hehe | 06:05 |
| holstein | nice | 06:05 |
| holstein | i usually do $40 | 06:06 |
| holstein | for 50 minutes or so | 06:06 |
| holstein | but i dont have a lot of students | 06:06 |
| Curly_Q | I do much better at Forensic Data Recovery making about $1,000.00/day. I keep my priorities here. :) | 06:06 |
| holstein | and no regular ones | 06:06 |
| Curly_Q | There is a huge market for that. | 06:07 |
| holstein | well, glad to have you in the community | 06:08 |
| holstein | it would be nice to have some users of the software | 06:08 |
| Curly_Q | Office Max makes $1,200.00/customer for data recovery. | 06:08 |
| holstein | that can afford to financially contribute :) | 06:08 |
| holstein | most of us are just broke musicians | 06:08 |
| Curly_Q | Well, I try not to be broke. it cost money to feed myself and live in a nice place. | 06:09 |
| holstein | well, im sure 300,000+ helps :) | 06:09 |
| Curly_Q | I try not to cut corners even when I type sentences. It all comes back to you eventually. | 06:09 |
| Curly_Q | The more work you put into anything the more the returns are. | 06:10 |
| holstein | yeah, in theory | 06:10 |
| Curly_Q | Actually in practice. | 06:10 |
| holstein | yeah, you're right | 06:11 |
| Curly_Q | People pay more attention to you if you have a plan. | 06:11 |
| holstein | all the returns are not financial in nature | 06:11 |
| Curly_Q | That's true. | 06:11 |
| Curly_Q | I agree. | 06:11 |
| Curly_Q | It is good to be flexible. | 06:11 |
| Curly_Q | Is the ISO I am downloading a kernel of the Ubuntustudio? | 06:12 |
| Curly_Q | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/10.10/release/ | 06:12 |
| holstein | well | 06:13 |
| holstein | to be presice | 06:13 |
| Curly_Q | Or is it an installation? | 06:13 |
| holstein | linux is the kernel | 06:13 |
| Curly_Q | True. | 06:13 |
| holstein | ubuntu is the operating system | 06:13 |
| Curly_Q | True. | 06:13 |
| holstein | the kernels are all the same | 06:13 |
| holstein | you can get whatever kernel you need from the repos | 06:13 |
| Curly_Q | So this is a kernel with the programs associated? | 06:13 |
| holstein | from any official buntu install | 06:13 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: you'll get the linux-generic kernel | 06:14 |
| Curly_Q | I am very familiar with installing Linux. | 06:14 |
| Curly_Q | That's OK. | 06:14 |
| holstein | and the packages associated with ubuntustudio | 06:14 |
| Curly_Q | I was just curious about the kernel and is it a stripped down version of the Kernel with the programs on it? | 06:14 |
| holstein | the kernel is the same | 06:15 |
| holstein | the same kernel you would get in ubuntu | 06:15 |
| holstein | a -generic one | 06:15 |
| holstein | with the same hardware support rolled in | 06:15 |
| holstein | theres not really any programs on the kernel | 06:15 |
| holstein | AFAIK | 06:15 |
| holstein | you can get lowerlatency kernels if needed | 06:16 |
| Curly_Q | I am sure I will find out when I install it. | 06:16 |
| Curly_Q | I suppose if I installed a bare-bones Linux kernel and did the above apt-get that would suffice. | 06:17 |
| holstein | depends | 06:17 |
| holstein | i mean, the kernel has some driver support | 06:17 |
| holstein | so that can effect your graphics card for one thing | 06:17 |
| holstein | or wireless | 06:18 |
| holstein | i suppose you could apt-get modules or firmware or whatever | 06:18 |
| holstein | if you need | 06:18 |
| holstein | i find that in ubuntu | 06:18 |
| holstein | i try to stick to what ubuntu is expecting | 06:18 |
| Curly_Q | I guess what you are saying is that the ubuntustudio has the drivers incorporated with the kernel to make it all happen. | 06:18 |
| holstein | package-wise | 06:18 |
| holstein | trying to use the stuff from the repos first when possible | 06:19 |
| holstein | then PPA | 06:19 |
| holstein | then some .deb or building | 06:19 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: well what i saying is, ubuntustudio uses the same kernel as ubuntu | 06:19 |
| Curly_Q | Funny thing is that I came here because I was surfing on the Google and thought first to try Anthony.freenode.net to see if there was a #ubuntustudio channel. My guess was correct. | 06:20 |
| holstein | yup | 06:20 |
| holstein | we're here | 06:20 |
| Curly_Q | This is my first time here. | 06:20 |
| holstein | i thought i had seen your nick before | 06:21 |
| holstein | but lots of nicks come and go | 06:21 |
| Curly_Q | I am all over the IRC. | 06:21 |
| holstein | congrats | 06:21 |
| Curly_Q | I am lots of time helping on the #Ubuntu channel or the #Windows channel. | 06:21 |
| holstein | yeah | 06:22 |
| holstein | i avoid those | 06:22 |
| holstein | i help here | 06:22 |
| Curly_Q | I teach Computer classes such as A+ and more. | 06:22 |
| holstein | and sometimes in #ubuntu-beginners | 06:22 |
| holstein | but #ubuntu | 06:22 |
| holstein | thats a mess | 06:22 |
| Curly_Q | Yeah, those channels are brutal if you don't know how to hold your own. Lots of the technicians are puffed up with themselves. They think of themselves as gods. | 06:23 |
| Curly_Q | They hate it when I correct them. | 06:23 |
| holstein | well, you can hang out here and correct me all you want | 06:24 |
| Curly_Q | I can type faster than they can too. They hate that and think that I am a bot. | 06:24 |
| Curly_Q | The other day when the Japan earthquake happened, I put in a comment that there was an impending Tsunami coming for Hawaii and the Philippines. The OPS there said: "You are off topic.. He kicked me from the channel. What a fool. | 06:25 |
| Curly_Q | He said: "This is an Ubuntu channel and not a warning channel." | 06:26 |
| Curly_Q | Can you imagine that? | 06:27 |
| holstein | its challenging though | 06:27 |
| holstein | i mean, this channel is too | 06:27 |
| holstein | and i like to be loose with it | 06:27 |
| holstein | since its so small | 06:27 |
| holstein | and we are trying to build a community | 06:27 |
| holstein | BUT, with a channel like that | 06:28 |
| Curly_Q | It was human life. Did you see the the videos of the Tsunami? | 06:28 |
| holstein | i can only imagine the stress | 06:28 |
| Curly_Q | Someone on the IRC on another channel #Windows told me thanks from Hawaii. He heard the air RAIDS sirens and didn't know what it was. He thanked me for the warning. | 06:29 |
| holstein | lol | 06:29 |
| Curly_Q | The idiot OPS said: "Stop using CAPS..." | 06:30 |
| Curly_Q | I saved a life and the OPS is only concerned about CAPS. What does that tell you? | 06:30 |
| Curly_Q | The news today says that 3 Nuclear Power Plants are in trouble there. | 06:31 |
| Curly_Q | One would be bad enough. | 06:31 |
| holstein | yeah, i was catching up on that earlier | 06:31 |
| Curly_Q | Like Chernoble. | 06:32 |
| holstein | rough over there | 06:32 |
| holstein | well, with chernobyl, i think there was somewhere for folks to go | 06:32 |
| Curly_Q | Yes, I was off topic warning people though. | 06:32 |
| holstein | or more places for folk to go | 06:32 |
| holstein | we'll see | 06:32 |
| holstein | might not be as bad as all that | 06:33 |
| holstein | anyways, i gotta crash | 06:33 |
| Curly_Q | The government witheld the Chernobyl incident as much as they could untill they needed aid from the United States. | 06:33 |
| holstein | Curly_Q: GN | 06:33 |
| Curly_Q | Nice meeting you Holstein. | 06:33 |
| Curly_Q | Thanks for the info. | 06:33 |
| Curly_Q | Good night folks. I hope all here have a great day today. | 06:35 |
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| alberto | Hello | 22:41 |
| alberto | Does anybody know anything about using VST Instruments on Ubuntu via Jack? | 22:42 |
| Buggaboo | hi guys | 23:29 |
| Buggaboo | I want to extract a certain length of sound from a wav. What do I use? | 23:30 |
| ailo | Buggaboo, check out Audacity. It's a audio-file-editor, and perfect for things like that. | 23:41 |
| Buggaboo | excellent. | 23:41 |
| Buggaboo | thanks. | 23:41 |
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