=== tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [02:32] has anyone gotten ffado to work with a presonus firebox? [05:37] Greetings folks. [05:37] I just happened upon the Ubuntu Studio ISO. [05:37] Before I install it any comments on it? [05:38] Curly_Q: sure [05:38] what are you planning on doing? [05:38] do you have ubuntu installed now? [05:38] Lots of stuff. [05:38] just plain ubuntu? [05:38] I am always looking for new stuff for my Recording Studio. [05:39] I use Kubuntu Server here. Do I need to reinstall the studio ISO? [05:39] Curly_Q: what do you mean? [05:39] kubuntu server? [05:39] I have a Server Kubuntu. [05:39] you mean ubuntu server? [05:39] Yes. [05:40] the k in kubuntu implies KDE [05:40] and the server installs are usually without a desktop [05:40] Whatever Distro you want to call it. It is still Linux. [05:40] is that the case? [05:40] you have a server installation? [05:40] without X ? [05:40] Well, the question is: Is there an apt-get for Ubuntustudio? [05:41] I have X installed. I use VNC tunneling for that. [05:41] Curly_Q: OK [05:41] so, you have an ubuntu installation [05:41] Yes. [05:41] you started with a server installation disc? [05:41] and added KDE? [05:42] Well, I have a lot of computers here, I was just considering what would be the best way to install ubutustudio. [05:42] OK [05:42] if you open up synaptic [05:42] or whatever package manager [05:42] and search ubuntustudio [05:42] you'll see the metapackage [05:42] BUT [05:43] you dont even need them [05:43] you can just install what you want [05:43] jack and ardour [05:43] i usually do [05:43] Installation should be no problem for me. I was wondering what features this ISO has that would make me want to brag about it. [05:43] sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins [05:43] Curly_Q: usually, if you already have ubuntu installed [05:43] its more trouble than its worth [05:44] theres no live CD for ubuntustudio [05:44] its hard to do a USB install [05:44] I was thinking in terms of setting up a laptop with ubuntustudio. A whole different installation. [05:44] right [05:44] on the laptop [05:44] your not going to get the network manager [05:44] out of the box [05:44] with ubuntustudio [05:44] SO, that'll be the first 'gotcha' [05:45] no wireless [05:45] I can format a USB 64 gig memory stick for that. That is what I was thinking. [05:45] totally do-able [05:45] its just... [05:45] you can get the ubuntu vanilla live cd [05:45] install it [05:45] and start trying out software [05:45] JACK and ardour [05:45] qtractor [05:45] Is there an ISO for the vanilla? [05:45] yeah [05:45] just the normal live CD [05:46] Will this stuff work with Audio Kontrol hardware? [05:46] Curly_Q: link it up [05:46] i have no idea what that is [05:46] What do you mean? [05:46] audio kontrol hardware [05:47] Curly_Q: USB or firewire? [05:47] Audio Kontrol is a hardware box that works with Windows Native Instruments software like Guitar Rig. [05:47] Audio Kontrol 1 is a USB device. [05:48] i dont see in on the list [05:48] http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main [05:48] It has multiple guitar amps like Marshal and Fender amps. [05:48] amp sims? [05:48] It does also have the ALSA drivers too. But for Windows. [05:49] anyways, i would get a live CD [05:49] unless you want to plug it into whatever computer you already have ubuntu installed on [05:49] and run a few commands [05:49] in a terminal [05:49] you want to run [05:49] I do know that there dome enthusiasts who do work with Linux and Native instruments. [05:49] lsusb [05:49] after pluging the device in [05:49] IF you see it there [05:49] you want to run [05:49] aplay -l [05:50] and [05:50] arecord -l [05:50] IF you see the device there ^^ [05:50] it should be useable by JACK [05:50] without any more hassle [05:50] if not, then you'll just have to start googling around [05:50] Does this software or ISO kernel or whatever you want to call it act as a guitar fuzz box or distortion amp and things like that with echo and flanging? [05:50] and asking on formus [05:51] Curly_Q: there are programs [05:51] that do effects processing [05:51] That is what I am interested in the add ons. [05:51] rakarrack is the one i really like [05:51] Curly_Q: JACK is what you'll want to learn [05:51] there is a different workflow to linux audio [05:51] Is there a web link that has all of this stuff available? [05:52] Curly_Q: theres not one over all web link [05:52] I see. [05:52] http://jackaudio.org/ [05:52] I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. [05:52] Curly_Q: check out #opensourcemusicians [05:52] theres a podshow [05:52] and all kinds of different users [05:53] making all different kinds of music with these tools [05:53] I bookmarked those links. Thanks. [05:53] and others [05:53] Curly_Q: sure, anytime :) [05:53] I play lead guitar. [05:53] cool [05:53] i play lead bass ;) [05:53] I do lots of Hendrix and Jimi Page style. [05:54] nice [05:54] i play mostly jazz [05:54] My maing preocupation is Computer Scientist. [05:54] I love jazz. [05:54] Nice choice. [05:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RnThpo0Atk#t=2m50s [05:55] I play lots of Blues like Stevie Ray Vaughn. [05:55] Is that your band? [05:55] well, i freelance [05:55] thats a piano player i play with often [05:56] i dont really do 'bands' [05:56] Are you playing in that video? [05:56] It is nice though. [05:56] Curly_Q: thats me on the basso :) [05:56] lead bass [05:57] Hey that's nice. Good work. [05:57] thanks [05:58] I do lots of flamenco guitar work as well as electronic rock and blues. I do lots of improv jazz. [05:59] right on [06:00] Is that piece on youtube improv? It seems so. [06:00] well, i started it at my solo [06:00] and im improvising over the form [06:01] but the tune is the piano players tune [06:01] I can see. Most jazz is though. I like it though. [06:01] he plays the melody after im finished soloing [06:01] It is a lot of fun to get carried away playing. [06:02] I have met lots of musicians that hate improve. They cannot play anything without sheet music. That to me is boring. [06:02] eh, i try and do both [06:02] im not a fast sight reader though really [06:03] Improvisation is the only way to become creative. [06:03] i can respect those hard-core classical players though [06:03] I can read music but I don't read it. [06:03] yo-yo-ma and the like [06:03] really good interpreters of the page [06:03] Yo-yo-ma is an exception. [06:03] thats a whole other skill [06:04] reading what someone else writes [06:04] and playing it lyrically [06:04] or whatever it takes to convey the story [06:04] Reading music cramps my style. [06:04] I taught myself how to listen to something and then just play it. I don't need sheet music. [06:04] i hear you [06:05] but, as miles davis said 'freedom is in itself ultimately limiting' [06:05] I teach guitar lessons though which is an irony of the whole thing. I make $75.00/hour doing it. hehe [06:05] nice [06:06] i usually do $40 [06:06] for 50 minutes or so [06:06] but i dont have a lot of students [06:06] I do much better at Forensic Data Recovery making about $1,000.00/day. I keep my priorities here. :) [06:06] and no regular ones [06:07] There is a huge market for that. [06:08] well, glad to have you in the community [06:08] it would be nice to have some users of the software [06:08] Office Max makes $1,200.00/customer for data recovery. [06:08] that can afford to financially contribute :) [06:08] most of us are just broke musicians [06:09] Well, I try not to be broke. it cost money to feed myself and live in a nice place. [06:09] well, im sure 300,000+ helps :) [06:09] I try not to cut corners even when I type sentences. It all comes back to you eventually. [06:10] The more work you put into anything the more the returns are. [06:10] yeah, in theory [06:10] Actually in practice. [06:11] yeah, you're right [06:11] People pay more attention to you if you have a plan. [06:11] all the returns are not financial in nature [06:11] That's true. [06:11] I agree. [06:11] It is good to be flexible. [06:12] Is the ISO I am downloading a kernel of the Ubuntustudio? [06:12] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/10.10/release/ [06:13] well [06:13] to be presice [06:13] Or is it an installation? [06:13] linux is the kernel [06:13] True. [06:13] ubuntu is the operating system [06:13] True. [06:13] the kernels are all the same [06:13] you can get whatever kernel you need from the repos [06:13] So this is a kernel with the programs associated? [06:13] from any official buntu install [06:14] Curly_Q: you'll get the linux-generic kernel [06:14] I am very familiar with installing Linux. [06:14] That's OK. [06:14] and the packages associated with ubuntustudio [06:14] I was just curious about the kernel and is it a stripped down version of the Kernel with the programs on it? [06:15] the kernel is the same [06:15] the same kernel you would get in ubuntu [06:15] a -generic one [06:15] with the same hardware support rolled in [06:15] theres not really any programs on the kernel [06:15] AFAIK [06:16] you can get lowerlatency kernels if needed [06:16] I am sure I will find out when I install it. [06:17] I suppose if I installed a bare-bones Linux kernel and did the above apt-get that would suffice. [06:17] depends [06:17] i mean, the kernel has some driver support [06:17] so that can effect your graphics card for one thing [06:18] or wireless [06:18] i suppose you could apt-get modules or firmware or whatever [06:18] if you need [06:18] i find that in ubuntu [06:18] i try to stick to what ubuntu is expecting [06:18] I guess what you are saying is that the ubuntustudio has the drivers incorporated with the kernel to make it all happen. [06:18] package-wise [06:19] trying to use the stuff from the repos first when possible [06:19] then PPA [06:19] then some .deb or building [06:19] Curly_Q: well what i saying is, ubuntustudio uses the same kernel as ubuntu [06:20] Funny thing is that I came here because I was surfing on the Google and thought first to try Anthony.freenode.net to see if there was a #ubuntustudio channel. My guess was correct. [06:20] yup [06:20] we're here [06:20] This is my first time here. [06:21] i thought i had seen your nick before [06:21] but lots of nicks come and go [06:21] I am all over the IRC. [06:21] congrats [06:21] I am lots of time helping on the #Ubuntu channel or the #Windows channel. [06:22] yeah [06:22] i avoid those [06:22] i help here [06:22] I teach Computer classes such as A+ and more. [06:22] and sometimes in #ubuntu-beginners [06:22] but #ubuntu [06:22] thats a mess [06:23] Yeah, those channels are brutal if you don't know how to hold your own. Lots of the technicians are puffed up with themselves. They think of themselves as gods. [06:23] They hate it when I correct them. [06:24] well, you can hang out here and correct me all you want [06:24] I can type faster than they can too. They hate that and think that I am a bot. [06:25] The other day when the Japan earthquake happened, I put in a comment that there was an impending Tsunami coming for Hawaii and the Philippines. The OPS there said: "You are off topic.. He kicked me from the channel. What a fool. [06:26] He said: "This is an Ubuntu channel and not a warning channel." [06:27] Can you imagine that? [06:27] its challenging though [06:27] i mean, this channel is too [06:27] and i like to be loose with it [06:27] since its so small [06:27] and we are trying to build a community [06:28] BUT, with a channel like that [06:28] It was human life. Did you see the the videos of the Tsunami? [06:28] i can only imagine the stress [06:29] Someone on the IRC on another channel #Windows told me thanks from Hawaii. He heard the air RAIDS sirens and didn't know what it was. He thanked me for the warning. [06:29] lol [06:30] The idiot OPS said: "Stop using CAPS..." [06:30] I saved a life and the OPS is only concerned about CAPS. What does that tell you? [06:31] The news today says that 3 Nuclear Power Plants are in trouble there. [06:31] One would be bad enough. [06:31] yeah, i was catching up on that earlier [06:32] Like Chernoble. [06:32] rough over there [06:32] well, with chernobyl, i think there was somewhere for folks to go [06:32] Yes, I was off topic warning people though. [06:32] or more places for folk to go [06:32] we'll see [06:33] might not be as bad as all that [06:33] anyways, i gotta crash [06:33] The government witheld the Chernobyl incident as much as they could untill they needed aid from the United States. [06:33] Curly_Q: GN [06:33] Nice meeting you Holstein. [06:33] Thanks for the info. [06:35] Good night folks. I hope all here have a great day today. === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === frederickjh is now known as frederickjh_away [22:41] Hello [22:42] Does anybody know anything about using VST Instruments on Ubuntu via Jack? [23:29] hi guys [23:30] I want to extract a certain length of sound from a wav. What do I use? [23:41] Buggaboo, check out Audacity. It's a audio-file-editor, and perfect for things like that. [23:41] excellent. [23:41] thanks.