[00:25] <autif1> I purchased a new laptop and installed Xubuntu 10.10 on it - I found two things that Ubuntu 10.10 can do, but, Xubuntu can't. First is that using Fn + (F9 or F10) I can increase/decrease the brightness of the LCD screen in Ubuntu, but not in Xubuntu. Secondly, After the display is switched off after inactivity, it takes Fn+ F4 to turn it on again in Ubuntu. However, I could not turn the display on in Xubuntu, I had to reboot using the conso
[00:27] <DJPokebub> I need help with the sudo command.
[00:27] <DJPokebub> My password won't work with the command
[00:27] <DJPokebub> Hello?
[00:28] <DJPokebub> :(
[01:14] <autif1> ok, installing xfce4-power-manager-plugins - fixed the first issue - i can now increase and decrease the brightness on will. I just cannot wake the monitor after it sleeps - any ideas?
[01:26] <autif1> if, I suspend and resume, the LCD does turn back on. But this is a nasty workaround
[02:04] <Rak> hello
[02:05] <Rak> I'm trying to find earlier revisions of Xubuntu. Is this possible?
[02:09] <autif1> do you have a specific version in mind?
[02:10] <David-A> Rak: what version?, http://www.xubuntu.org/ has the old versions that is still supported. Otherwise, google "earlier revisions of Xubuntu" finds old ubuntus back to 6.06, install one of these and install the xubuntu package in it.
[02:11] <Rak> Well for a pen III, ram 128 mb, ati video card 128 mb, machine
[02:11] <autif1> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/
[02:11] <Rak> What do you guys think what rev would be the best?
[02:12] <autif1> try the alternate CD - their requirement is 192 MB
[02:12] <autif1> all the best
[02:13] <autif1> 6.06 alternate claims 128 MB are requirement
[02:13] <autif1> that may work out
[02:13] <Rak> I'm figuring that as well
[02:14] <David-A> Rak: Xubuntu with 128mb and PIII back in 2008, probably Xubuntu 8.04, it could start, but firefox didnt work well. I would not recommend it.
[02:14] <Rak> maybe install firefox 2?
[02:15] <David-A> Rak: or not use firefox at all. still probably too slow if opening more than a few programs.
[02:15] <Rak> hhmm
[02:16] <Rak> David what browser would you recommend for low system resource use that can handle flash?
[02:16] <autif1> midori should work
[02:16] <Rak> I used a browser called miranda seemed nice but couldn't handle flash
[02:16] <Rak> I'll take a look
[02:16] <Rak> :D
[02:17] <Rak> i'll try out ubuntu 8.04 and see what happens
[02:18] <David-A> Rak: Epiphany have flash via the same package that installs flash in firefox. Its sligtly leaner, and still quite user friendly.
[02:18] <Rak> I tried tinycore out seems to be ok but doesn't handle flash to well at all
[02:23] <David-A> Rak: have you looked at other linux distros that are particularly designed for low end coputers? e.g. Lubuntu, Puppy, Chrunchbang? some are based on ubuntu.
[02:24] <Rak> I looked at tinycore, damn small linux
[02:24] <Rak> never heard of those >_>
[02:25] <Rak> David you happen to carry a list of distro's for low end computers?
[02:27] <David-A> Rak: No, but i am sure google, ubuntuforums, and some ubuntu wikis have. Have you not seen http://distrowatch.com ?
[02:27] <Rak> never seen that site
[02:27] <Rak> >_>
[02:29] <David-A> Rak: there are thousands of distros and the 100 most popular in the list to the right. they have links to reviews and might have articles about light distros.
[02:29] <Rak> nice
[02:29] <Rak> this is pretty cool :D
[02:37] <David-A> Rak: for very low end comps, there are OSes written in assembly language: e.g. menuetOS and kolibriOS. the screenshots of menuet are astounding, considered the os fits on a floppy.
[02:37] <David-A> (menuetOS and kolibriOS are not linux)
[02:37] <Rak> wow
[02:37] <Rak> BSD?
[02:38] <David-A> no, their own special i think
[02:38] <Rak> oppsss  u said asm =P
[02:38] <Rak> amazing didn't know these ever existed
[02:38] <Rak> David i've been looking at Lubuntu you happen of tried that before?
[02:40] <David-A> no, i have not tried lubuntu, nor crunchbang nor menuet nor kolibri. i have tried debian, fedora, mint, mandriva, the last 3 probably no good for 128mb.
[02:41] <David-A> i have tried puppy, it is fun, but i dont like the desktop icons. too win-xp-like.
[02:46] <David-A> i have tried vectrolinux 5.9, similar to xubuntu and lubuntu, but no utf-8 by default. not as ready-out-of-the-box as the more popular distros.
[02:46] <Rak> ooo
[02:46] <Rak> would Ubuntu work good on a 512 mb machine?
[02:46] <David-A> yes
[02:47] <Rak> I got two machine i bought for $10 bundle package but I'm unsure if they work and they have been stored in a garage some I'm leeting them dry out before I test them out
[02:47] <Rak> maybe they will turn on if not I'll have to see what works what doesn't, and fix them
[03:22] <Rak> hey can I get opera 6.0 for Xubuntu?
[03:23] <Unit193> Rak: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/15
[03:24] <Rak> o
[03:24] <Rak> is this 6.0 >_>
[03:26] <Unit193> Hrm.... Not sure, I'm looking into it
[03:31] <Unit193> Rak: http://arc.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/ may I ask why you wan't an old one?
[03:32] <Rak> yes, because I have a older computer looking for a browser that uses low ssytem resoruces and is able to handle flash
[03:33] <Unit193> Don't know if it can handle flash, but midori is a good small one
[03:33] <Rak> ah I heard about that trying it out :D
[03:34]  * Unit193 "uses" it on 500MHz
[04:48] <beefsalad> 500mhz should be able to do flash and a few other things
[04:48] <beefsalad> heck, I do it with android...maybe you should look there!
[04:49] <Unit193> Not any flash videos
[04:58] <beefsalad> what type of video hardware does it have
[04:59] <Unit193> Nadda, most of the things in xscreensaver go a wee bit slow
[05:02] <beefsalad> you have to have some kind of video card or something...
[05:02] <Unit193> I know that, just nothing worth saying...
[05:05] <Unit193> 	Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
[09:43] <jordan3456> good morning, afternoon, evening, or altered state of consciousness.
[09:44] <jordan3456> anyone alive?
[10:07] <jordan3456> hello again
[10:07] <jordan3456> anyone awake?
[10:08] <jason_in_colorad> somewhat
[10:08] <jason_in_colorad> course i am a night owl i suppose
[10:09] <jordan3456> are you proficient in flash?
[10:09] <jason_in_colorad> afraid not :(
[10:09] <jordan3456> darnit
[10:09] <jordan3456> I'm having that black screen problem again
[10:09] <jordan3456> this seems to be a linux-plugin specific problem
[10:10] <jordan3456> maybe it's karma telling me not to watch youtube at work all day
[10:10] <jason_in_colorad> don't say such a scary thing
[10:10] <jason_in_colorad> i need youtube
[10:10] <jordan3456> yes, it's like crack but without the burnt lips and std's
[10:10] <jason_in_colorad> new install of linux? or is this a new problem on a older install?
[10:11] <jordan3456> no, is on a oldish installation
[10:11] <jordan3456> it's the latest version
[10:11] <jason_in_colorad> there is a flash substitute i think
[10:11] <jordan3456> all my computers suffer from this
[10:11] <jason_in_colorad> oh?
[10:11] <jordan3456> yeah, but that also creates some issues as well
[10:12] <jordan3456> I mean, optimally no one should use closed source software
[10:12] <jason_in_colorad> did it happen after an update?
[10:12] <jordan3456> good question.  I run updates as cronjobs, so I'll have to look at the log
[10:12] <jordan3456> or wade through the log
[10:13] <jason_in_colorad> i'll have to take a look at the update's here in a moment and see if there is a flash update
[10:13] <jason_in_colorad> im running a fresh install of xubuntu
[10:13] <jason_in_colorad> so i guess i'll see what happens, concerning flash
[10:13] <jordan3456> did you run the massive first-time update
[10:13] <jason_in_colorad> thats what im doing right now
[10:13] <jordan3456> well
[10:14] <jordan3456> when I install any x environment I always reboot to shell and run apt-get straight from there
[10:14] <jordan3456> no use running the upgrade from within x
[10:14] <jordan3456> apt-get, yum, etc.
[10:14] <jason_in_colorad> yeah, im running my update threw terminal
[10:14] <jordan3456> who the heck came up with the name "yum" for a package installer anyway?
[10:14] <jordan3456> ???
[10:15] <jason_in_colorad> someone in desperate need of food?
[10:15] <jordan3456> dunno
[10:15] <jordan3456> you should read some of the weird things in the fortune command
[10:15] <jason_in_colorad> someone coming off a high, who knows
[10:15] <jordan3456> anyway, no I reboot, go to GRUB, and then run networked shell
[10:15] <jason_in_colorad> that comes standard in the mint terminal right? or am i thinking of something else
[10:16] <jordan3456> actually, I prefer to do all my manual package work outside of x
[10:16] <jason_in_colorad> im not that savvy with linux yet :( wish i was
[10:16] <jordan3456> I think mint is debian, dunno
[10:16] <jason_in_colorad> if i was i would prob. be running arch
[10:16] <jordan3456> well
[10:16] <jordan3456> quite honestly
[10:17] <jordan3456> I like debian better than fedora
[10:17] <jordan3456> but it doesn't matter.  Try them all, see what you like.
[10:17] <jason_in_colorad> fedora keeps crashing on my system
[10:17] <jason_in_colorad> wish i could run bsd, but my system won't even boot into it
[10:17] <jordan3456> what is your hardware?
[10:18] <jason_in_colorad> amd processor, ati graphics car, all the things i've been told aren't great
[10:19] <jordan3456> look, I buy old computers for $100 or less and run them at work
[10:19] <jordan3456> I don't care what's inside.  It's all about disposable computing
[10:19] <jordan3456> whatever works, really.
[10:19] <jason_in_colorad> this is a newer computer
[10:19] <jordan3456> actually $100 is way too much
[10:20] <Sysi> jordan3456: so you have the official adobe flash and not any subtitutes installed?
[10:20] <jordan3456> yes
[10:20] <jason_in_colorad> just the adobe rendition
[10:20] <jordan3456> yeah
[10:20] <Sysi> if you could get older flash you could try using it..
[10:20] <jordan3456> good ide sysi
[10:20] <jordan3456> idea
[10:21] <Sysi> or youtube html5
[10:21] <jordan3456> that too
[10:21] <jason_in_colorad> flash works fine for me
[10:21] <Sysi> crashes if i wanna watch more than one video from youtube but not bad
[10:22] <jason_in_colorad> sometimes when i load up a youtube page i get a white screen with sound
[10:22] <jason_in_colorad> then i refresh the page, and all is well again
[10:22] <jordan3456> I don't have any windows boxes any more, so I can't use that as a yardstick against linux problems
[10:22] <Sysi> that isn't "working fine" ..exept for flash
[10:23] <jason_in_colorad> windows box on the site?
[10:23] <jordan3456> erm, well I have a windows box too, but I have like the absolute weakest user account
[10:23] <jordan3456> prefer to use my own machines at work
[10:23] <jason_in_colorad> are you talking about microsoft?
[10:24] <jordan3456> yeah, you know, your standard xp terminal
[10:24] <jason_in_colorad> oh i gotchya
[10:24] <jason_in_colorad> i haven't touched a windows machine in a few years
[10:24] <jordan3456> I don't own any myself
[10:24] <jason_in_colorad> ive got one in the closet
[10:24] <jordan3456> but at work we have one for "communal" use in the office
[10:25] <jason_in_colorad> well i guess if it still gets the work done
[10:25] <jordan3456> oh no, I only use it to send printouts through the building, as I can't get access to the office printer system through my linux boxen
[10:26] <jason_in_colorad> i gotchya
[10:26] <jordan3456> i'm not putting anything important on a communal machine
[10:26] <Sysi> i have win7, occasional gaming and stuff, XP was my original reason to start using linux
[10:26] <jason_in_colorad> so its just a hub really?
[10:26] <jason_in_colorad> i loved xp
[10:26] <jordan3456> no, lots of people use it for office tasks
[10:26] <jordan3456> i just don't leave things on public computers
[10:26] <jordan3456> it's a hub for me
[10:26] <jason_in_colorad> i got into linux after seeing a few people mess around in debian
[10:28] <jordan3456> okay cool swfdec hasn't been developed since 2009
[10:28] <jason_in_colorad> love debian, but for the life of me i cannot get my wireless working :(
[10:28] <jordan3456> so that might be like running an ancient flash version
[10:28] <jordan3456> that might not satisfy the youtube gods, but it'll probably run great on the systems
[10:29] <jason_in_colorad> o.O? how many variations of flash are there?
[10:29] <jason_in_colorad> im getting pretty sick of the said youtube gods
[10:29] <jason_in_colorad> and the adverts
[10:29] <jordan3456> well, as sysi suggests, I could try try a previous flash version
[10:29] <jordan3456> but instead, i will try a gpl version
[10:30] <jordan3456> well, it's either youtube of Hilary Rosen knocking at your door
[10:30] <jordan3456> or
[10:30] <jason_in_colorad> haha
[10:31] <jordan3456> there was some woman that was sued a bazilion dollars by the RIAA for downloading justin bieber or other crap off of kazaa
[10:31] <jason_in_colorad> have you taken a peek at 'awesome window manager'?
[10:31] <jordan3456> the lawsuits are an amazing waste of time and money.  thus endeth the editorial.
[10:31] <jason_in_colorad> its been a long time since ive heard that program name
[10:31] <jason_in_colorad> used it a few years ago
[10:32] <jason_in_colorad> hold up, time to reboot
[10:33] <jordan3456> what the heck is awesome window manager?
[10:33] <jordan3456> is this some xwindows DE?
[10:34] <jason_in_colorad> just a windows manager like xfce  only much lighter
[10:35] <jordan3456> even lighter than lxde?
[10:35] <jason_in_colorad> yeah
[10:35] <jordan3456> lxde is very buggy.  not a fan.
[10:36] <jordan3456> I mean, to create a desktop link I must use ln or edit a desktop file.  No one click solution like gnome or xfce
[10:36] <jason_in_colorad> yeah poked around with it a bit, would rather just have openbox if i was going to go that route
[10:36] <jason_in_colorad> that or fluxbox
[10:36] <jordan3456> I do run lubuntu on an ancient 2004 celeron laptop, but maybe openbox might be better
[10:37] <jason_in_colorad> crunchbang is a great distro if your looking for a good solid openbox
[10:37] <jordan3456> yeah
[10:37] <jordan3456> I mean, I use the laptop as a glorified slide carousel
[10:37] <jordan3456> it only runs Openoffice presentation
[10:37] <jason_in_colorad> i never could get into laptops
[10:37] <jason_in_colorad> i gotchya
[10:38] <jordan3456> so?  someone steals it in an airport or TSA smash n bashes it?  don't care, no personal info on it
[10:39] <jordan3456> okay, have this dented paperweight as my gift
[10:39] <jason_in_colorad> and what a gift it would be :D
[10:39] <jordan3456> not really.  it has a desktop processor, so it boils
[10:39] <jordan3456> really bad heatsinking
[10:39] <jordan3456> might be a hotplate alternative though
[10:40] <jason_in_colorad> yes, could whip you up some spam in a quick hurry
[10:40] <jason_in_colorad> or keep one's coffee hot
[10:42] <jordan3456> that's the thing
[10:43] <jordan3456> in the past it was quite common to use high voltage processors in laptops
[10:43] <jordan3456> because the lo-volt chips weren't viable or too expensive
[10:43] <jordan3456> but boy, did those things fry!
[10:43] <jordan3456> In fact
[10:43] <jordan3456> when the very first pentium came out (Pentium 60, early 90's)
[10:44] <jordan3456> I remember magazine reviews that said that the chips would boil (literally, scorch the plastic cover) right on the desktop motherboard
[10:44] <jordan3456> 5.5 volts
[10:44] <jordan3456> hungry processor
[10:44] <jason_in_colorad> that couldn't of made for good business
[10:44] <jordan3456> no
[10:45] <jordan3456> in fact, the 486dx3-100 sold for more than a year until the pentium 90's and 120's took off
[10:45] <jason_in_colorad> thats all before i was using computers, so this is a history lesson for me
[10:45] <jordan3456> for these reasons.  Besides, there wasn't any performance difference.  the P-60 was slower than a dx2 66, imho
[10:46] <jordan3456> I've been programming for 20 years on
[10:46] <jordan3456> and I'm only in my 30's
[10:46] <jason_in_colorad> im only 25 ^.^
[10:46] <Sysi> so old
[10:46] <jordan3456> yeah, the denture fitting is on Thursday
[10:46] <jason_in_colorad> now thats a thought
[10:47] <jason_in_colorad> something to look forward to
[10:47] <Sysi> if anyone comes to ask from help, move on to offtopic channel
[10:47] <jordan3456> okay
[10:47] <Sysi> (HW isn't very bad offtopic but still)
[10:47] <jordan3456> enough nostalgia.  I can tell you stupid stories about commodore 64 assembly programming
[10:48] <jordan3456> or the ti 99
[10:48] <jason_in_colorad> maybe you could get a book deal
[10:48] <jason_in_colorad> new york times best seller, im telling ya
[10:48] <jordan3456> no, maybe I need a trip to the quiet room
[10:48] <jordan3456> anyone who's been around long enough has stupid computer stories
[10:49] <jason_in_colorad> stories tend to be good thou
[10:49] <jordan3456> maybe.  nowadays I just try to convert people to linux
[10:49] <jordan3456> so many people are resistant, even when I demonstrate gnome to them
[10:49] <jordan3456> "just like windows, eh?"
[10:49] <jason_in_colorad> windows users even?
[10:49] <jordan3456> the command line is the deal breaker
[10:49] <jason_in_colorad> maybe a mac user
[10:50] <jordan3456> because many people never used msdos
[10:50] <jordan3456> or are too young to know about it
[10:50] <jason_in_colorad> i think people just don't wanna put in the effort in learning a new os
[10:51] <jordan3456> no, it's because "sudo nano anacrontab" sounds like a Star Trek language
[10:51] <jason_in_colorad> maybe a star trek planet?
[10:51] <jordan3456> don't know.  But people in the office just stare google-eyed at my terminal sessions
[10:52] <jason_in_colorad> i tend to do that on some of these pictures i find on the arch linux forums
[10:53] <jordan3456> I am a language specialist by trade, so bash is just like learning to read yet another language.  that's how I look at it.
[10:54] <jason_in_colorad> do you dabble with conky much?
[10:54] <jordan3456> no,
[10:54] <jason_in_colorad> love conky, but i suppose it is pretty redundant
[10:55] <jordan3456> well, all the conky coolness is contained in individual bash commands
[10:55] <jordan3456> i prefer to learn the bash language first
[10:55] <jason_in_colorad> i mess around with rc file a bit, its a good way to learn
[10:56] <jordan3456> well
[10:56] <jordan3456> I keep copies of rc on my gmail accounts so that I can plop them into new installations as soon as I make them.  Then all the aliases are in place, ready for immediate use.
[10:56] <jordan3456> same with cronjobs.
[10:56] <jordan3456> all the machines work in synchro, doing the same things at the same time.
[10:57] <jason_in_colorad> i just keep my rc files on a flash drive if i happen to have it handy
[10:58] <jordan3456> very good idea
[10:58] <jordan3456> I find myself typing aliased commands, and then having to backtrack and enter them manually
[10:58] <jason_in_colorad> hell you could even put them on a floppy, but not many machines have those anymore
[10:58] <jordan3456> my work box has one
[10:59] <jason_in_colorad> do they sell them anymore?
[10:59] <jordan3456> yes, they do.
[10:59] <jordan3456> my local computer warehouse has them.  Expensive, but available.  HD 1.44
[10:59] <jason_in_colorad> i just tend to get a pack of dvd's but, putting a few rc files on a dvd would be a waste
[11:00] <jordan3456> yeah, a cheap flash drive is enough
[11:00] <jason_in_colorad> keeping them in an email is a brilliant idea as well
[11:00] <jordan3456> I have an address just for this purpose
[11:01] <jordan3456> I can also keep rollback copies in case something screws up
[11:01] <jason_in_colorad> i could email myself all the rc files i use, and just give myself a list of programs i get off synaptic
[11:01] <jason_in_colorad> a few repository lists
[11:01] <jason_in_colorad> all sorts of stuff that would save me time
[11:04] <jordan3456> yeah
[11:04] <jordan3456> I don't use synaptic so I actually know little of it
[11:04] <jordan3456> but yeah, one could do so with the other repository systems as well
[11:05] <jordan3456> that's a great idea
[11:06] <jason_in_colorad> have you visited getdeb? i think its called
[11:06] <jordan3456> anyway, I came here to ask a question.  It is solved.  Irc is addictive, so this is my yearly quota. good luck with your system.
[11:06] <jason_in_colorad> a lot of okay software on that site
[11:07] <jason_in_colorad> well thanks
[11:17] <Aquina> Hy! I'm conding right now and have to write a context menu.
[11:18] <Aquina> Is the following sentence good english? "Enter your desired image name, please. You can freely choose the name as you wish."
[11:18] <Aquina> I'm unsure about the "as you wish"-part.
[11:24] <leoquant> as you please maybe?
[11:26] <leoquant> as desired?
[11:43] <Aquina> thank you. :-)
[13:26] <ochosi> Aquina: dunno what context menu you're writing but isn't that a bit of a long string for such a simple request?
[13:38] <TheSheep> Aquina: it's ridiculously polite
[14:01] <lighta> yeah let's put
[14:01] <lighta> Select Image
[15:06] <Park7> Hello, I am having trouble installing my broadcom sta wireless driver from the Proprietery Drivers panel. here is the error from /var/log/jockey.log that i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/580608/
[15:07] <Park7> oh, i am running xubuntu lucid...
[20:04] <PatrickC> I just installed xubuntu in a vbox
[20:04] <PatrickC> but when I try to log in, it doesn't accept my password
[20:05] <PatrickC> anyone have an idea?
[20:18] <PatrickC> nm
[20:21] <BlueEagle> I wonder what PatrickC did wrong. :)
[20:37] <KramB> I try using Compiz with my GeForce 8400 GS and it would not show the effects.  It also took away my Window Headers (fixed now) but I want Compiz to work, how can I?  I followed this guide: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[20:51] <ochosi> KramB: what exactly isn't working?
[20:51] <ochosi> (and btw, that blog-post is really really old)
[20:51] <KramB> When I try to use effects like when you move our Window it wobbles, stuff like that.
[20:52] <ochosi> but compiz is running?
[20:52] <KramB> Yes I know.
[20:52] <KramB> It runs, but it does not work.
[20:52] <ochosi> if it's running and you can move windows, that means it works
[20:52] <ochosi> you might have to install ccsm (compiz-config-settings-manager)
[20:52] <ochosi> and then activate the wobbly windows there
[20:52] <KramB> I installed all of that.
[20:52] <KramB> It still did not work.
[20:53] <ochosi> k, open a terminal, type "xfwm4 --replace"
[20:53] <KramB> I typed that with alt+f2.
[20:53] <KramB> Did not work.
[20:53] <ochosi> that should switch you back to xfwm4, then run "compiz --replace" in term and tell the output
[20:53] <KramB> Did that too.
[20:53] <KramB> Nothing comes out.
[20:53] <ochosi> yeah, but with xfrun (==alt+f2) you don't get any debugging information
[21:37] <jorgeY> hi, I wanted to install xubuntu 10.04 on my netbook from usb pendrive. I had installed it previously but now I wanted to encrypt my home, but I don't have the option at installation. What am I doing wrong?
[21:51] <drc> jorgeY: It was there this morning when I reinstalled...not sure exactly when, but iirc it was during the partition part
[21:56] <jorgeY> hi drc; normally should be at the user pass screen, but I have only the log automatically option there.
[21:59] <drc> yeah, you're right, now that you've reminded me
[22:01] <drc> It's a check box at the bottom of the window?
[22:01] <jorgeY> yeap, I know where it should be ... :-) but not why it's not there
[22:01] <jorgeY> you have 3 options there normally and I have only one.
[22:01] <Unit193> Do you have to remove your current home dir for that to work? or reformat?
[22:02] <drc> dunno why it's not there for you (it was when you installed previously?)  Same ISO/liveUSB?
[22:02] <jorgeY> I'm doing a full new installation
[22:02] <drc> jorgeY: did you check the format box in partitioning?
[22:02] <jorgeY> I don't think it was there the other time, but I don't know really
[22:03] <jorgeY> @drc, yes
[22:04] <jorgeY> the automatic partitioning, all for xubuntu
[22:05] <jorgeY> could it have to do with the pendrive installation?
[22:05] <jorgeY> should I take an extern cd drive?
[22:05] <drc> jorgeY: is this a different computer than the one you are using now?
[22:06] <jorgeY> yes
[22:06] <jorgeY> i'm on my mac now
[22:06] <jorgeY> the other one is an asus eeepc r101
[22:07] <drc> can you try this then...do a manual partition (swap == {or more, up to you) RAM and rest for /)  see if it's there then?
[22:07] <jorgeY> ok, I'll try
[22:07] <drc> or whatever partition you want, the point is to see if it needs a manual partition
[22:08] <jorgeY> normally I give 2x ram for swap
[22:08] <jorgeY> ok, I see
[22:08] <drc> vs automatic...I really don't know, just thinking
[22:08] <jorgeY> I understand your point
[22:09] <jorgeY> It's worth a try, thanks
[22:10] <drc> was the iso the desktop or alternate?
[22:10] <jorgeY> desktop
[22:11] <drc> ok, just trying to think of variables in the process
[22:11] <jorgeY> alternate hasn't the option?
[22:12] <drc> dunno
[22:12] <jorgeY> ok
[22:12] <drc> never used it, like I said, I was just think of variables while you were trying the manual partition
[22:12] <jorgeY> ok
[22:15] <drc> jorgeY: dinner time..hope you find a solution
[22:15] <jorgeY> thank you
[22:15] <jorgeY> I'll do a try and if not works I download it tomorrow again
[22:16] <jorgeY> bon apetit
[22:20] <jorgeY> well, I don't know why, but I have the options now there. With manual partition and with automatic too. Thank you drc for your time