[01:25] <duanedesign> 5
[01:26] <micahg> 4
[01:26] <yofel> 3
[01:28] <greg-g> 2
[01:50] <pleia2> 1
[01:51] <paultag> 0
[02:15] <Pici> -1
[02:17] <duanedesign> -2
[02:18] <duanedesign> :D
[02:30] <bcurtiswx> ?
[03:47] <areeda> I'm new trying to figure out what the bug squad does (besides read bug reports, I got that part).  So I was reading about my favorite thorn in my side VNC server and found one I knew the work around (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/735471).  it was new today, undecided and unassigned.  The work around worked for the reporter.  Should the status change.  I haven't found a bug report to mark it as a duplicate but there is
[03:47] <areeda>  a discussion somewhere in the forums.
[03:47] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 735471 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "cannot use xterm under vnc with gnome-session (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[03:48] <areeda> ubot is pretty cool, what else does it do?
[03:56] <micahg> areeda: you can confirm the issue if you can reproduce and if there's enough information for a developer to work on it, you can ask here for it to be marked triaged
[04:08] <areeda> thanks micahg, it is 100% repeatable and I have more problems with the vnc4server scripts.  I use them on multiple machines
[04:08] <areeda> So, I should mark it as confirmed and maybe add a comment on the other issues?
[04:10] <micahg> areeda: no, you should file a separate bug for each issue you are facing
[04:10] <micahg> areeda: you can mark it confirmed though :)
[04:10] <areeda> Thanks, I'll do both
[04:37] <nigelb> bdmurray: it does.  Its on my list.  I just need to find the time to get down to it
[10:06] <njin> Hello, today's updates of Natty cause Xorg not starting
[10:07] <MadCow108> yes
[10:08] <MadCow108> heard yesterday that it may be the gdm upgrade
[10:08] <njin> mmm yesterday i haven't got any problems, only today
[10:10] <njin> i can start session by startx, using service gdm start it reject
[10:10] <MadCow108> downgrading to gdm ubuntu9 fixes it
[10:10] <MadCow108> just tested in vm
[10:38] <njin> Hello today's updates of grub makes ubuntu unbootable till startx from console, fixed rewriting grub from live session
[10:38] <njin> bug 736037
[10:38] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 736037 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "today's update makes Ubuntu unbootable (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/736037
[10:41] <arand_> njin: If you have it, it might be good to supply the erroneous grub.cfg so that the error in the updating via grub-mkconfig is obvious.
[10:41] <njin> arand_: looking if exist again
[10:44] <njin> arand_:rewrited, sorry
[10:45] <njin> arand_: upgrading other pc just now
[10:47] <arand_> Did you have any manual changes to the grub menu before updating?
[10:47] <njin> arand_:no
[11:04] <arand_> njin: Is it possibly related to Bug #735805 ?
[11:04] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 735805 in gdm (Ubuntu) "GDM fails to start (affects: 15) (dups: 1) (heat: 72)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735805
[11:14] <njin> arand_: reproduced on the other pc, now i will attach the grub.conf
[11:15] <njin> arand_: i don't think that is related to gdm, here x don't start
[11:15] <arand_> It is not the case that it somehow boots into singe-user mode or something weird like that?
[11:16] <arand_> njin: Well, x and gdm are closely related, and the symptoms in tha bug sems to correspond to yours...
[11:20] <njin> arand_: i think on grub, because when i start x it's log start from about 200 instead of 0
[16:15] <njin> Hello, testing today's build apport popup 'Sorry, GSettings Data Conversion closed unexpectly', but clicking on Report Problem another popup said that the problem is in gconf2 and it crashed on an assertion failure, but the message could not be retrieved.Apport does not support reporting these crashes.
[16:15] <njin> What can i do to file a bug in this case?
[16:17] <njin> or better wich file attach to file a valid report?
[16:17] <roadmr> njin: that bug is reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf2/+bug/736159
[16:17] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 736159 in gconf2 (Ubuntu) "gsettings-data-convert crashed with sigabrt in g_object_newv() (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 102)" [Medium,New]
[16:18] <roadmr> njin: if this looks like the same problem you're having, you might want to just indicate you're affected by it in that report
[16:18] <roadmr> njin: I generated that report with today's image plus some updates, so chances are it's the same one you're getting
[16:19] <njin> roadmr: thanks, it is surely the same
[16:21] <roadmr> njin: no problem, thanks to you too for letting us know about it :) so I know I'm not the only one with the problem
[16:24] <njin> roadmr: sorry if I disturb, can you explain how to force the crash file ?
[16:25] <roadmr> njin: look for the crash file in /var/crash
[16:26] <roadmr> njin: edit it and remove the line that says "UnreportableReason" (I think, it's near the end of the file)
[16:26] <njin> roadmr:thanks a lot
[16:27] <yofel> there's bug 729223 about apport being confusing there
[16:27] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 729223 in apport (Ubuntu) "notifying users of assertion failures is confusing (affects: 1) (heat: 491)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729223
[16:29] <njin> perfect, is the same
[16:36] <charlie-tca> Yeah, somehow, a warning that you need to run a gdb backtrace would be better than what apport does now
[17:26] <cinfantino> I am finding almost every bug I touch has comments made but the triager has not assigned the bug to themselves....aren't we supposed to assign the bug to ourselves when we begin to triage it?
[17:29] <yofel> no
[17:29] <yofel> you only assign bugs to the person that's FIXING them
[17:29] <yofel> (the bug status should be 'in progress' at the same time)
[17:35] <ravitejavad> A regression in natty will come under regression release ?
[17:35] <ravitejavad> this is in regard with bug #736270
[17:35] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 736270 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "on bootup battery check freezes system (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/736270
[17:37] <yofel> ravitejavad: yes, add the regression-release tag, it's already tagged with natty
[17:37] <ravitejavad> yofel : thanks
[18:06] <ravitejavad> Bug #736253 is similiar to bug #241206 except the first is in lucid and second in hardy so can i mark it duplicate?
[18:06] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 736253 in gnome-screensaver (Ubuntu) "Screensaver does not work intermittently (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/736253
[18:06] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 241206 in gnome-screensaver (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Gnome Screensaver does not activate reliably (affects: 8) (dups: 4) (heat: 37)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241206
[18:16] <bdmurray> mvo: bug 733087 may have a patch in it but it is in a comment
[18:16] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 733087 in software-center (Ubuntu) "software ratings (stars) override package name in right to left encoding (affects: 5) (heat: 26)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/733087
[18:18] <mvo> bdmurray: patch will need contributor agreement :/
[18:20] <mvo> bdmurray: but I will look at the problem
[18:23] <bdmurray> mvo: okay, I wasn't sure how to proceed with it since it is in a comment
[18:45] <njin> Can someone help with this bug736153
[18:46] <njin> bug 736153
[18:46] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 736153 in ubuntu "Unicode variation selectors not supported (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/736153
[20:51] <Rcart> Please someone set this bug 625219 importance  to Medium (or Low, i think) (:
[20:51] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 625219 in mpd (Ubuntu) "mpd crashes on creating database (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625219
[20:57] <njin> hello, in a system with a pae kernel installed, can i suggest to install a ppa kernal?
[21:05] <Rcart> njin: You mean sugget to install a kernel from repositories?
[21:08] <njin> Rcart, thanks, no from ppa mainline
[21:15] <yofel> njin: depends on the bug I guess, but should be fine for most cases at least for testing purposes
[21:18] <njin> yofel: thanks, can you help me in bug 728579 ?
[21:18] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 728579 in linux (Ubuntu) "Imagen in external VGA monitor trembles (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728579
[21:21] <njin> this i915 is problematic
[21:24] <yofel> njin: sry, was busy, looking
[21:26] <yofel> njin: well, the graphics issue is probably xerver-xorg-video-intel, considering I know very little about kernel bugs it could be anything though :S
[21:27] <yofel> if you want to triage kernel bugs ask JFo
[21:28] <njin> yofel: thanks
[21:29] <yofel> Rcart: done, but we usually don't bother setting importance for fixed bugs
[21:31] <Rcart> yofel: Thanks, so the importance should be a priority when bugs need fix?
[21:31] <yofel> Rcart: exactly, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
[21:37] <Rcart> yofel: I'd read the importance page, but thought that fixed bugs needed an importance too. Now it's clear (;
[21:38] <yofel> well, nothing prevents you from setting them, but we have more important things to spend our little time on usually (i.e. there  are much better ways to spend your time)
[21:40] <Rcart> Sure. Seems to be "optional".
[22:13] <hggdh> the point is that the bug has been fixed, and the fix published. Although having the correct importance might help on future data-mining, it is not a need for now -- the fix is already there
[22:13] <hggdh> so we just leave it aside