| BobJonkman1 | Yes, sadly I will be returning to regular hours in April. So someone will have to take over... | 00:00 |
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| dscassel | BobJonkman1: There's always the monthly Waterloo hour. :) | 00:00 |
| BobJonkman1 | Hurray! | 00:00 |
| dscassel | Whelp, it's 8. if anybody needs help getting LoCo directory events set up or getting access to the website (maybe), we'll be online for a bit. | 00:01 |
| dscassel | Ask away. | 00:02 |
| komputes | If anyone here is testing Natty and has bugs they would like to discuss, feel free to send Bug URLs my way on a private message. | 00:03 |
| txwikinger | next meeting will be sometime before the release parties maybe about 10-14 days before that | 00:03 |
| staticsafe | heh, can't wait till Natty comes out. | 00:04 |
| dscassel | Thanks, komputes. | 00:05 |
| dscassel | I'll be upgrading my netbook in the next couple days. | 00:05 |
| * txwikinger has already one natty server running | 00:05 | |
| komputes | staticsafe: Remember Beta is March 31st | 00:05 |
| dscassel | (I can live without it if it falls over. :) | 00:05 |
| staticsafe | I wanna give Ubuntu another go on my Macbook Pro | 00:06 |
| staticsafe | so I'm waiting till Natty | 00:06 |
| komputes | staticsafe: MBP 7,1 ? | 00:06 |
| staticsafe | komputes: 5,5 | 00:06 |
| staticsafe | late 2009 model | 00:06 |
| staticsafe | i have installed lucid and maverick on it before, just waiting till natty comes out to install Ubuntu on it | 00:07 |
| komputes | staticsafe: oh. have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Maverick and write up diffs for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Natty if you can. | 00:07 |
| staticsafe | will do | 00:08 |
| komputes | staticsafe: feel free to ping me if you need help | 00:08 |
| staticsafe | cool | 00:09 |
| BobJonkman1 | Things have gone quiet. Is the meeting over? | 00:13 |
| dscassel | BobJonkman1: Yup. but people are still around. | 00:13 |
| BobJonkman1 | OK... Among other laptop miseries, yesterday I tried out "indicator-network" as recommened by http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/indicator-network-is-looking-good-in-natty/ | 00:15 |
| BobJonkman1 | It's not as slick in Meekrat as it will be in Narwhal, so I removed it. | 00:15 |
| BobJonkman1 | But now my Bluetooth is missing; and I miss my BT Mouse. | 00:16 |
| BobJonkman1 | Any hints on how to restore BT? The "System, Preferences, Bluetooth" tool doesn't show any Bluetooth devices on my laptop. | 00:17 |
| BobJonkman1 | The "System, Preferences, Bluetooth Manager" tool shows previously used BT devices, but gives the error message "Connection Failed: Host is down (112)" | 00:19 |
| BobJonkman1 | O HO! Just went through the setup and pairing process again, and now my BT Mouse is restored. | 00:21 |
| dscassel | Bluetooth mice always seem to get shafted. | 01:33 |
| Amgine | argh. I was out having dinner and missed the meting. | 02:26 |
| willwh | << me too | 02:35 |
| willwh | I just got back in the door :( | 02:35 |
| dscassel | Amgine, willwh anything you want to add? :) | 02:38 |
| Amgine | Unfortunately I'm being pinged to death and haven't had a chance to read the backscroll... but likely not. | 02:38 |
| willwh | dscassel: nor me likely, actually not running ubuntu on any of my boxes | 02:39 |
| willwh | all servers are debian squeeze now :o | 02:39 |
| willwh | laptop is running arch | 02:39 |
| dscassel | *shrug*, we've got a few Debian people in our Ubuntu Waterloo group. | 02:39 |
| willwh | yah :] | 02:39 |
| dscassel | I'm not offended. :) | 02:39 |
| willwh | s'why I'm still ere | 02:39 |
| willwh | just likely don't have too much to contrib tonight | 02:40 |
| willwh | anyone here use drupal? | 02:40 |
| willwh | I am looking for some tips on my debugging environment | 02:40 |
| willwh | trying to learn php | 02:40 |
| dscassel | txwikinger is a drupal guy. BobJonkman1 does some as well. | 02:40 |
| dscassel | (I try not to touch it. :) | 02:40 |
| Amgine | <mediawiki person> | 02:41 |
| dscassel | willwh: Are you trying to debug a module? Or Drupal itself? | 02:43 |
| willwh | a module :] | 02:43 |
| dscassel | (not that I have too many suggestions...) | 02:43 |
| willwh | yeah - well - I have my lamp box under teh floor (server) | 02:44 |
| willwh | so have xdebug, eclipse etc | 02:44 |
| willwh | and - I guess this module is in a state of flux | 02:44 |
| Amgine | I know a wonderful drupal person, but I don't think she's cheap. | 02:46 |
| Amgine | https://identi.ca/notice/67070502 <- Majnoona is Evan's SO, http://www.majink.org | 02:48 |
| whoaski | can anybody help me w/ my server? | 09:04 |
| whoaski | i just installed ubuntu 10.10 server on a computer with apache2,mysql, and rails | 09:07 |
| whoaski | but I don't know how to configure it from the command line | 09:08 |
| whoaski | anybody know any resources or links to learn the command line for ubuntu? | 09:08 |
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| BluesKaj | howdy | 13:11 |
| * genii-around makes coffee | 14:24 | |
| dscassel | Morning, BluesKaj, genii-around | 14:33 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning , genii-around, dscassel | 14:34 |
| * genii-around passes around the breakfast bagels | 14:34 | |
| wmat | morning | 14:52 |
| * BluesKaj watches the snow melt....kinda boring | 14:52 | |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning, wmat | 14:52 |
| * BluesKaj wonders what going on with this german guy sipherdee, joining and flooding | 15:13 | |
| cyphermox | BluesKaj, I think sipherdee actually isn't there but his bouncer has issues | 15:38 |
| BluesKaj | cyphermox, right , he's probly got an malfunctioning autojoin in his irc client | 15:40 |
| dscassel | I ignore joins parts and quits. That's probably why I'm not seeing any shenanigans. | 15:40 |
| dscassel | If it's a problem, I can see if I can do something about it. | 15:41 |
| cyphermox | dscassel, wise move | 15:41 |
| dscassel | But I'm pretty ignorant about IRC stuff, still | 15:41 |
| cyphermox | dscassel, dunno. I banned him on #ubuntu-qc after sending him a memo to tell him to ping me when his stuff is fixed today, and I'll clean up the ban later regardless | 15:42 |
| cyphermox | it's not overly disruptive anyway | 15:42 |
| * BluesKaj prefers to see who joins and quits , guess it's just my curious nature | 15:44 | |
| dscassel | It's kind of annoying when someone you go to talk to has already left and you don't know about it. | 15:44 |
| dscassel | But otherwise, it's just too much noise. | 15:45 |
| dscassel | I kinda wish sometimes I had one of those new-fangled "GUI" IRC clients that just showed you who was there. | 15:46 |
| dscassel | But I <3 screen + irssi. I could never leave it. | 15:47 |
| komputes | dscassel: hey there | 16:16 |
| cyphermox | dscassel, gotta agree there that irssi + screen is great, but I find it falls apart when you follow more than about 10 channels | 16:20 |
| willwh | cyphermox: really? I'm in 27 across 3 servers | 16:21 |
| willwh | and it's just fine here :] | 16:22 |
| willwh | I guess depends on how you display channels etc | 16:22 |
| wmat | cyphermox: falls apart how? Similar to willwh, I'm in 18 channels across 4 servers and love irssi + screen. | 16:24 |
| willwh | http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi <- this puppy gets so much traction | 16:25 |
| willwh | it really is a nice way to set it all up though :] | 16:25 |
| cyphermox | really, then my setup must be crap | 16:26 |
| willwh | I'd say so :) | 16:26 |
| willwh | without seeing it | 16:26 |
| willwh | one sec I'll show you a screenshot of mine | 16:26 |
| cyphermox | heh, looks like the guide pretty much already lists what I had set up | 16:27 |
| willwh | ah | 16:28 |
| cyphermox | maybe I'm just lazy, I like the 0-9 shortcuts but at some point you got too many channels for that no? | 16:28 |
| willwh | yeah it goes onward to letters | 16:28 |
| wmat | cyphermox: 11->19 == q->o | 16:29 |
| willwh | 20+ = a bit craxzy | 16:29 |
| willwh | enough ways to window switch though | 16:29 |
| willwh | and split windows / etc | 16:29 |
| willwh | argh phone | 16:29 |
| cyphermox | willwh, yeah, I got the 11-19, but I have more windows open when you count the 4 networks and some 30 channels :/ | 16:30 |
| cyphermox | but I get what you mean, the names can be typed too | 16:30 |
| cyphermox | the annoying thing with xchat and all is that you can't stay connected ^.^ | 16:31 |
| willwh | yeah | 16:33 |
| willwh | well | 16:33 |
| willwh | you should check out quassel then :] | 16:33 |
| willwh | it's like screen & irssi functionality | 16:33 |
| willwh | with an xchat style QT interface | 16:34 |
| willwh | i.e. server / client | 16:34 |
| willwh | I used it for a while | 16:34 |
| willwh | but I <3 irssi too much | 16:34 |
| genii-around | the quassel package with current Natty crashes on me too much. I had to pull don the git version. But that seems to be stable for now. | 16:40 |
| genii-around | Weird. So that one just crashed on me now after not misbehaving for 4-5 days | 16:44 |
| BluesKaj | konversation is stable as a rock on natty | 16:44 |
| genii-around | Cool. | 16:45 |
| willwh | < gnome user :) | 16:50 |
| willwh | on the laptop anyway | 16:50 |
| willwh | my desktop rig is running (gasp!) Windows 7 | 16:50 |
| BluesKaj | rig ? , must be an audio geek too, willwh | 16:51 |
| willwh | nae, just heard the term a lot | 16:52 |
| willwh | and it works :> | 16:52 |
| BluesKaj | well, for audio I aleays thought it was a silly word ,made it sound industrial. like firing up my krell amp ...exaggerating the power and size of the system | 16:53 |
| BluesKaj | audio geek BS in other words :) | 16:54 |
| * dscassel is back from lunch. | 17:22 | |
| staticsafe | wb dscassel | 17:22 |
| dscassel | Hey, komputes | 17:22 |
| staticsafe | Irssi 0.8.14 (20090728) - http://irssi.org/ | 17:22 |
| staticsafe | hmm | 17:22 |
| komputes | Hey dscassel , just read your response to the Unity thread. | 17:22 |
| komputes | dscassel: I was just wondering, where did you see that Xubuntu was an officially supported derivative? | 17:23 |
| staticsafe | dscassel: got some responses from TLUG about the Ubuntu Hour | 17:23 |
| dscassel | komputes: Isn't it one of the official *buntus? | 17:25 |
| dscassel | Looking... | 17:25 |
| dscassel | staticsafe: Anything positive? :) | 17:25 |
| dscassel | I could be wrong. It happens sometimes... | 17:25 |
| staticsafe | dscassel: a guys named Sammy said he has been talking to you | 17:26 |
| dscassel | ...Sammy... | 17:26 |
| dscassel | Oh yeah, the Free Geek Toronto guy! | 17:26 |
| dscassel | Yeah, cool. | 17:26 |
| komputes | dscassel: I believe that other than Ubuntu, derivatives are community-supported. I was just wondering if what you mentioned is published anywhere. | 17:27 |
| komputes | if not, thats ok | 17:27 |
| dscassel | The last Ubuntu-uk podcast had the list of official *buntus as a trivia question... | 17:28 |
| dscassel | Of course, the distinction between "official" and "supported" is probably more important and better understood by the people actually providing said support.. :) | 17:29 |
| genii-around | Weird. I was just over at FreeGeek on Sunday working on a small clustering project. | 17:38 |
| staticsafe | damn, the FreeGeek place seems to be a little far from here in Scarborough | 17:39 |
| genii-around | staticsafe: Yeah it's near Dundas and Steeles | 17:39 |
| cyphermox | komputes, you're kind of right but at the same time Xubuntu and Kubuntu are special (like ubuntustudio, ubuntu-server, mythbuntu...), in the way that they have official daily builds, and milestone testing... whereas other spins do not (e.g. lubuntu doesn't have dailies yet, gobuntu no longer does...) | 18:56 |
| cyphermox | ^ and they all have the same plumbing layer, or almost the same, which means the core OS is supported, even if part of the UI isn't | 18:56 |
| komputes | cyphermox: good point, I could see how dailies would make people perceive that they are fully supported | 19:11 |
| cyphermox | furthermore, I'm under the impression that most of these things are under main | 19:15 |
| cyphermox | what's in main is Canonical supported, no? | 19:15 |
| cyphermox | I know edubuntu is a special case because it does not, but xubuntu would mostly like in main, I think | 19:16 |
| cyphermox | and I find myself being totally wrong | 19:16 |
| cyphermox | http://paste.ubuntu.com/581262/ -- thunar, the default file manager in xubuntu, is in universe. so is xubuntu-default-settings | 19:18 |
| genii-around | Hm. I wonder if I can scoop the decorative penguin here at work without someone noticing | 19:20 |
| willwh | genii-around: pixx pls | 19:32 |
| genii-around | I'll have to use my laptop cam, the phone one is busted | 19:33 |
| genii-around | willwh: http://imagebin.org/143402 | 19:48 |
| hypatia | that is a serious penguin | 19:49 |
| genii-around | Hehe, yes | 19:50 |
| dscassel | cyphermox, komputes: is ubuntu-qc doing anything for global jam? | 19:50 |
| genii-around | hypatia: There are some others around, but not with feathers like this one. They use em here for Christmas decorations | 19:51 |
| komputes | dscassel: we discussed it and it will probably take place at SupInfo, a private tech school near McGill | 19:52 |
| willwh | uhhh | 19:53 |
| willwh | genii-around: haha - I am not quite sure what to say | 19:53 |
| willwh | I love penguins, don't get me wrong | 19:53 |
| willwh | but that one, is a little creepy :) | 19:53 |
| willwh | creepy, yet, the more I look at it, the more awesome it is | 19:54 |
| willwh | haha :) | 19:54 |
| genii-around | Hangon. I'll get the two other "cute" ones :) | 19:54 |
| cyphermox | dscassel, yup, just waiting for the confirmation from the supinfo people that we're okay for the rooms, and I'll announce it | 19:57 |
| cyphermox | this time I haven't made a call for people who were interested in helping organize this because I don't have time :/ | 19:57 |
| cyphermox | but hopefully we'll have enough interest for some good bug finding -> bug fixing -> upload process going on | 19:58 |
| genii-around | OK, got em. http://imagebin.org/143405 and http://imagebin.org/143407 | 19:59 |
| genii-around | They're pretty dusty from being down here in the basement :( | 20:00 |
| genii-around | willwh: I do like the feathery one best | 20:10 |
| dscassel | cyphermox: Cool, drop a note here when you make the announcment. | 20:12 |
| dscassel | I want to get something up on the ubuntu-ca.org site about it soon. | 20:12 |
| cyphermox | dscassel, yup, good plan. I'd probably need to fetch whomever updates the ubuntu-qc.org site too ;) | 20:15 |
| capmtripps | hey all | 23:01 |
| staticsafe | hey capmtripps | 23:02 |
| capmtripps | so, whats new with ubuntu? | 23:12 |
| capmtripps | i got 10.10 and didnt really find much difference with 10.04 (my first intall | 23:12 |
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