| === Bertrand is now known as bl8 | ||
| bcurtiswx | Reinstallation of telepathy-haze is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. | 01:21 |
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| bcurtiswx | in natty, afaik it can be :-\ | 01:21 |
| psusi | while testing an unrelated patch to nautilus, I find that my system menu is back and the minimize/maximize/close icons are back on the right side of the window. This is still the case after downgrading packages. The menus are normal if I log in as another user. What about my profile got screwed up to cause this? | 01:25 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 06:06 |
| pitti | dobey: ah, I never noticed that; yes, it adds the .bzr-builddeb/ dir, as this is not part of debian/, but also not part of upstream | 06:09 |
| pitti | dobey: kind of a shortcoming of bzr-bd | 06:09 |
| === Bertrand is now known as bl8 | ||
| robert_ancell | hey pitti - the langpack stuff doesn't work with dh7 does it? | 06:18 |
| pitti | hey robert_ancell | 06:19 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: not yet, no; we didn't yet create a dh_langpack for the magic, it's all in the cdbs langpack.mk so far | 06:19 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, ok, cheers | 06:19 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, actually you might be able to help me with this one. You seem to be a regular uploader to aptdaemon, is it OK to change it to cdbs so it uses langpack.mk? | 06:21 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: which parts do we need from it actually? just pot file building? | 06:22 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, the .policy file conversion to using gettext-domain and stripping the xml translations | 06:22 |
| robert_ancell | bug 690270 | 06:22 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 690270 in ubuntu-translations "Translated String (zh_TW) Not Showed within aptdaemon" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/690270 | 06:22 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: so, not sure whether glatzor/mvo would mind a cdbs conversion; TBH I'd rather ask them first | 06:24 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, ok np, I'll flick them the bug | 06:24 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: we haven't had the problem so far, but as we do now I can also look into creating a dh_langpacks | 06:24 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, can we do it without duplicating the code? | 06:24 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: the code would move to dh_langpacks, and cdbs langpack.mk would then just call that | 06:25 |
| robert_ancell | oh that's good - that sounds like the best solution | 06:25 |
| pitti | main question is in which package to ship it | 06:26 |
| pitti | I guess I could build it from pkgbinarymangler | 06:26 |
| pitti | and produce a new dh-langpack package | 06:26 |
| pitti | which cdbs would then depend on | 06:26 |
| pitti | then it would be seamless for cdbs | 06:27 |
| robert_ancell | seamless always sounds good :) | 06:30 |
| Amaranth | robert_ancell: I just made compiz depend on cdbs for langpack stuff even though it uses a dh7-style build system | 06:50 |
| robert_ancell | Amaranth, so you can get around it? Thanks | 06:50 |
| Amaranth | Hmm, actually I'm not even sure where this code came from | 06:51 |
| Amaranth | But yeah, there is code in the compiz debian/rules for calling out to cdbs stuff for handling .desktop and .schema files for language packs | 06:52 |
| Amaranth | I must have copied it from another package in Ubuntu, either that or didrocks did it | 06:52 |
| pitti | Amaranth: so it seems it gets high time for dh --with=langpack | 06:55 |
| * mvo hugs glatzor | 06:56 | |
| pitti | hey glatzor, hey mvo, guten Morgen | 06:56 |
| mvo | hey pitti, guten morgen! | 06:57 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:59 |
| Amaranth | morning didrocks | 07:00 |
| didrocks | hey Amaranth | 07:00 |
| Amaranth | didrocks: hey, did you add the code in the compiz debian/rules for using cdbs stuff for langpacks? | 07:00 |
| Amaranth | I suppose I could just bzr blame but this seems easier | 07:00 |
| didrocks | Amaranth: IIRC, I did port that | 07:00 |
| didrocks | why? | 07:00 |
| pitti | robert_ancell, Amaranth: bug 735934 FYI, feel free to subscribe | 07:01 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 735934 in pkgbinarymangler "Build dh_langpack" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735934 | 07:01 |
| pitti | didrocks: ^ I think you were interested in that as well | 07:01 |
| Amaranth | I remember having issues building it on a PPA that I didn't locally because I had cdbs already so I thought I copied it from somewhere | 07:01 |
| didrocks | Amaranth: I don't use cdbs, it's all dhè | 07:01 |
| Amaranth | didrocks: Oh, we were just talking about that bug and I started thinking about it | 07:02 |
| didrocks | 7* | 07:02 |
| Amaranth | didrocks: But you call out to perl scripts installed by cdbs | 07:02 |
| didrocks | /usr/lib/cdbs/strip-schema.pl | 07:02 |
| didrocks | right | 07:02 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, that's part of I wanted to do | 07:03 |
| didrocks | what* | 07:03 |
| didrocks | still have the task, working on more urgent stuff, right now, though | 07:03 |
| pitti | didrocks: I'll work on it | 07:03 |
| didrocks | ok :) | 07:03 |
| pitti | didrocks: just want to point it out because I remembered that you were interested in using it | 07:03 |
| didrocks | pitti: btw, is the gnome-session stuff still scheduled? | 07:04 |
| didrocks | yeah | 07:04 |
| pitti | didrocks: I have kept getting RCish bugs to work on so far :/ | 07:04 |
| didrocks | pitti: not only for you, I would think that the whole team was concerned about gnome-session :) | 07:05 |
| mvo | thanks robert_ancell for the analysis on 690270 | 07:07 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'll try to get some time this evening to work on it | 07:07 |
| robert_ancell | mvo, np | 07:07 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 07:58 |
| evilvish | anyone heard of mousetweaks segfaulting in maverick? | 08:14 |
| seb128 | hey | 08:45 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:47 |
| seb128 | hello pitti | 08:47 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 08:47 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm great, thanks! | 08:48 |
| pitti | was nice last night, had both our parents over, made pizza, and had some sparkling wine :) | 08:49 |
| rodrigo_ | hi seb128, pitti | 08:49 |
| pitti | hey rodrigo_, how are you? | 08:49 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, I'm fine, thanks | 08:49 |
| seb128 | hey rodrigo_ | 08:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, great! | 08:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, so you drink wine now? ;-) | 08:50 |
| pitti | seb128: well, we call that "Sekt", it's similar to champagner | 08:50 |
| pitti | I do drink that, yes | 08:50 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 08:50 |
| pitti | I don't drink red wine at all, but recently I started to try some light white wine | 08:51 |
| pitti | (oh, and wine isn't off-topic here! ask YokoZar!) | 08:51 |
| rodrigo_ | there is an ubuntu package for wine, so no, not off-topic here :) | 08:52 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: yeah, YokoZar is the maintainer | 08:52 |
| rodrigo_ | ah :) | 08:52 |
| * pitti CPRs seb128 - are you back yet? | 08:53 | |
| seb128 | urg, internet went flacky and back | 08:56 |
| pitti | *phew*, he's back | 08:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey again ;-) | 08:57 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 | 08:57 | |
| seb128 | bah, seems the gdm update fails to start for some users | 08:57 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 08:57 | |
| seb128 | hate gdm! | 08:57 |
| pitti | my fault? | 08:57 |
| seb128 | nfc | 08:58 |
| seb128 | there are changes in it | 08:58 |
| seb128 | one ipv xdmcp git backport which I doubt would break things | 08:58 |
| seb128 | jhunt's upstart tweaking | 08:58 |
| seb128 | your's git backport for this login crash thing | 08:58 |
| pitti | doesn't start at all, or crashes? In the former case, I'd blame the upstart changes | 08:58 |
| seb128 | I don't see anything obviously wrong | 08:58 |
| seb128 | could be the upstart one? | 08:59 |
| pitti | I haven't rebooted since this morning's updates yet | 08:59 |
| seb128 | they say it randomly doesn't start | 08:59 |
| pitti | seb128: depends on the symptoms -- crash or not start | 08:59 |
| pitti | but my backported login crash is fairly obvious | 08:59 |
| seb128 | bug #735805 | 08:59 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 735805 in gdm "GDM fails to start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735805 | 08:59 |
| pitti | it just hides a widget under some condition which we don't have by default | 08:59 |
| seb128 | bdrung, ^ do you have specifics? | 08:59 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, can't see anything obviously broken in the upstart changes either | 09:06 |
| pitti | unless "runlevel PREVLEVEL=S" is true very early in the boot, in which case it would fail to start | 09:06 |
| pitti | or calling runlevel fails | 09:06 |
| pitti | seb128: replied to the bug | 09:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 09:09 |
| didrocks | pitti: good news, the gnome-session change isn't needed anymore. Now unity will disable itself if it launched and can't run | 10:11 |
| pitti | didrocks: oh, that's great! | 10:12 |
| seb128 | hum, dear update-manager stop freezing and triggering apport if someone dismiss the password dialog by error | 10:27 |
| cdbs | seb128: yes, just noticed | 10:30 |
| cdbs | that | 10:30 |
| seb128 | hey cdbs ;-) | 10:31 |
| cdbs | seb128: hi, how are you doing? | 10:31 |
| cdbs | seb128: my 4 month long study leave just ended, unfortunately I was not very active in this cycle because of exam | 10:32 |
| cdbs | s | 10:32 |
| seb128 | cdbs, I'm fine thanks, how are you? | 10:32 |
| cdbs | rockin' | 10:32 |
| ogra_ | seb128, why did you drop the armel workaround from telepathy-glib | 11:18 |
| seb128 | ogra_, because I hate freedom and armel as well ;-) | 11:19 |
| ogra_ | haha | 11:19 |
| didrocks | quoted | 11:19 |
| didrocks | :) | 11:19 |
| seb128 | ogra_, joke aside what workaround? | 11:19 |
| seb128 | ogra_, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-glib/+changelog | 11:19 |
| ogra_ | looks screwed up to me | 11:20 |
| seb128 | ogra_, we are on sync for a while | 11:20 |
| ogra_ | telepathy-glib (0.11.13-1ubuntu2) maverick; urgency=low | 11:20 |
| ogra_ | * use -O0 on armel builds to work around FTBFS due to failing selftests | 11:20 |
| ogra_ | issue is described in launchpad bug 623979, failing buildlog is attached | 11:20 |
| ogra_ | to that bug. | 11:20 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 623979 in telepathy-glib "telepathy-glib fails to build on armel due to two unsuccessfull selftests" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/623979 | 11:20 |
| ogra_ | apt-get soruce telepath-glib gets me a pretty different changelog btw | 11:21 |
| seb128 | ogra_, right, it gives you the debian one since we synced | 11:22 |
| ogra_ | without any ubuntu entries | 11:22 |
| seb128 | ogra_, right, it's coming from debian | 11:22 |
| seb128 | ogra_, why would they have ubuntu entries? | 11:22 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 11:22 |
| seb128 | ogra_, on why we dropped the -O0 because I had no clue if that was still an issue with the new gcc, telepathy stack, etc | 11:23 |
| seb128 | and it's easier to sync with debian during the unstable cycle | 11:23 |
| ogra_ | dunno why *they* would have them, but it would be good to not lose our entries for being able to look stuff up | 11:23 |
| seb128 | ogra_, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-glib/+changelog is what you are looking for | 11:23 |
| seb128 | ogra_, we will not start merging every package that had ubuntu uploads rather than sync just for the changelog | 11:23 |
| ogra_ | sure ... | 11:23 |
| seb128 | that wouldn't make sense | 11:24 |
| ogra_ | well, it was a bit irritating | 11:24 |
| seb128 | ogra_, to start why nobody sent the workaround to debian? | 11:24 |
| ogra_ | debian doesnt need it, they dont use our optimization levels | 11:25 |
| ogra_ | (they build for armv5 etc etc) | 11:25 |
| seb128 | could we be smart and only turn it on where needed? | 11:25 |
| ogra_ | tricky | 11:26 |
| seb128 | so we could keep the source without diff over debian | 11:26 |
| seb128 | well, we could send them a patch with a dpkg-vendor call | 11:26 |
| seb128 | i.e just enable it on Ubuntu | 11:26 |
| pitti | ... and make sure that we have a gcc bug filed for this | 11:26 |
| ogra_ | its definitely a but that we need it at all, someone should fix it in the code i guess | 11:27 |
| ogra_ | s/but/bug/ | 11:27 |
| ogra_ | for now i would just like to have images again though | 11:29 |
| seb128 | ogra_, then get someone from linaro to work on the gcc issue? | 11:31 |
| ogra_ | seb128, well, that will take weeks (by experience) gcc uploads dont just happen every day | 11:31 |
| seb128 | well it's over a cycle | 11:31 |
| ogra_ | i will have to apply the workaround anyway to get images back i fear | 11:31 |
| seb128 | ogra_, ok, that's fine, it just made our job easier to sync during the unstable cycle, but I will drop it again next cycle | 11:32 |
| ogra_ | k | 11:32 |
| seb128 | ogra_, you should really open a gcc bug and maybe makes a patch that debian could take meanwhile, like using dpkg-vendor and set the workaround on Ubuntu | 11:33 |
| ogra_ | well, first lets see if it fixes it still ;) | 11:33 |
| ogra_ | yes, i will talk to linaro and open a bug | 11:33 |
| seb128 | thanks | 11:33 |
| bdrung | seb128: i confirm that it's a breakage in the upstart job (bug #735805). | 11:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 735805 in gdm "GDM fails to start" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735805 | 11:33 |
| seb128 | bdrung, thanks | 11:34 |
| bdrung | seb128: anything else you want to know? | 11:34 |
| seb128 | bdrung, can you maybe ping jhunt on #ubuntu-devel? | 11:34 |
| seb128 | bdrung, he's the one who did the change and he's investigating the breakage now but he doesn't get the issue | 11:34 |
| chrisccoulson | kklimonda, did you have any luck getting mongodb working with the latest mozjs? | 11:35 |
| kklimonda | chrisccoulson: no, I did fix some issues but I hit weird errors like http://pastebin.com/Pn4udv5z - I've commented on the upstream ticket, and I will probably give it another shoot next week, but now I'm swamped with work (both Ubuntu-related and not) so I can't tell if I'll get it into any shape before beta. | 11:43 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, do you think you could upstream the patch from bug #736042? | 11:43 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 736042 in gnome-media "add "PULSE_PROP_media.role" to gnome-sound-recorder" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/736042 | 11:43 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, looking | 11:44 |
| chrisccoulson | kklimonda, thanks. where is the upstream ticket? | 11:44 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, hum, that's probably still in gnome-media which you don't maintain upstream, I guess we better git format that and send the bugzilla rather | 11:44 |
| kklimonda | chrisccoulson: http://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-2683 | 11:44 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, that's what I was going to do | 11:44 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 11:45 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, if you want to do it please do ;-) | 11:45 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, thanks | 11:45 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok | 11:45 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, hmm, where else do we use that PULSE_PROP thing? | 11:47 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/ApplicationProperties | 11:47 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, in ubuntu it's useful for the indicator sound | 11:48 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, it will show input sliders when you start an application which set it to phone or production see bug #736049 | 11:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 736049 in indicator-sound "show record level control on PULSE_PROP_media.role=production" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/736049 | 11:48 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 11:49 |
| chrisccoulson | kklimonda, is the WIP patch anywhere? | 11:49 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/712725 could you give the merge another try? | 11:51 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 712725 in nlpsolver "[MIR] libreoffice-nlpsolver" [Medium,Confirmed] | 11:51 |
| kklimonda | seb128: looks like the new glibmm release build-depends on mm-common for building documentation and mm-common is in universe. | 11:51 |
| Sweetshark | (see the latest comment on the issue) | 11:52 |
| kklimonda | chrisccoulson: no, but I can push what I wrote to github.. actually, there isn't much so I can just git you a diff itself ;) | 11:53 |
| chrisccoulson | kklimonda, yes please. i'll take a look later on | 11:54 |
| kklimonda | chrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/581055/ | 11:55 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 11:55 |
| didrocks | hum, we need to do a fake upload to pull in a package which is in debian NEW? we can't get the dsc file from it? | 11:55 |
| Laney | no you can't | 11:55 |
| didrocks | ok, thanks Laney :) | 11:56 |
| Laney | :-) | 11:56 |
| Laney | grab it from $VCS and upload, then sync when it's uploaded | 11:57 |
| didrocks | Laney: yeah, I'm asking to the maintainer to do it if possible, then I will NEW it :) | 12:04 |
| Laney | woo | 12:04 |
| chrisccoulson | kklimonda, oh, i didn't realise that mongodb's malloc override was declared inline. that might be the real issue with assigning it to a pointer | 12:07 |
| kklimonda | chrisccoulson: afair the problem I was trying to solve wasn't about it being assigned to pointer, but about malloc being expanded to mongo::ourmalloc in some xulrunner header, but I will happily agree with you - I'm much more of a C coder, than the C++ one. If you can describe it in detail I'd be thankful. | 12:12 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| didrocks | seb128: IIRC, you were talking about some gdm issue this morning? | 12:14 |
| didrocks | seb128: seems people on the french forum get a black screen at start since then | 12:14 |
| seb128 | didrocks, right, there is an issue with jhunt's upstart job tweaks | 12:23 |
| didrocks | ok, it's upstart then | 12:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks, they can switch to a vt and start gdm there | 12:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no, it's the gdm job | 12:24 |
| didrocks | oh? ok | 12:24 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, they already found the vt tweak :) | 12:24 |
| seb128 | didrocks, bug #735805 | 12:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 735805 in gdm "GDM fails to start" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735805 | 12:24 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, reading, thanks :) | 12:26 |
| seb128 | didrocks, see that's when I'm happy about my no upload on friday rule ;-) | 12:27 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I was pondering uploading that or not ;-) | 12:27 |
| didrocks | seb128: oh, you already know I totally agree with this rule :-) | 12:27 |
| didrocks | oh really? | 12:27 |
| didrocks | heh ;) | 12:27 |
| didrocks | like "uploaded kthxbye" | 12:27 |
| seb128 | well that's rather that I merged jhunt's fix and there was a crash fix pending | 12:28 |
| seb128 | so I pondered uploading with those or not | 12:28 |
| didrocks | yeah | 12:28 |
| didrocks | well, stick to this rule :) | 12:28 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:28 |
| didrocks | (I still think Friday morning is okayish) | 12:28 |
| didrocks | as long as it hits the repo before lunch :) | 12:28 |
| === njpatel is now known as njpatel_ | ||
| seb128 | hey mterry | 12:48 |
| seb128 | is your recent merge request fixing bug #730976 | 12:48 |
| seb128 | ? | 12:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 730976 in libdbusmenu "LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-DEBUG: Could not handle image type 0" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730976 | 12:48 |
| mterry | seb128, ah, yes! | 12:49 |
| mterry | seb128, didn't think to look for a bug | 12:49 |
| mterry | seb128, do you know of a bug for the "dbusmenu_gtk_parse_get_cached_item: assertion `GTK_IS_MENU_ITEM(widget)' failed" message? | 12:50 |
| seb128 | mterry, ted did a merge request for it yesterday | 12:51 |
| mterry | seb128, oh, swell | 12:52 |
| seb128 | mterry, see https://code.edge.launchpad.net/dbusmenu/+activereviews | 12:52 |
| seb128 | if you want to review and ack it ;-) | 12:52 |
| seb128 | mterry, it's the no spam for seb one | 12:53 |
| mterry | yup | 12:53 |
| seb128 | mterry, btw ted's tarball are due today | 12:53 |
| seb128 | if you have things to get in | 12:53 |
| mterry | seb128, naw | 12:54 |
| mterry | seb128, my empathy menu fix is empathy-side | 12:54 |
| mterry | seb128, just realized I have the ability to review dbusmenu branches. Do you know policy? Should I merge it myself? | 12:55 |
| mterry | (i mean, for ted's branches that I approve) | 12:56 |
| seb128 | mterry, not sure, check with ted, usually other dx-ers ack it but don't merge but I guess that's because they don't have a local checkout handy etc | 12:56 |
| seb128 | i.e it's easier for them to just ack and ted handle the merge | 12:56 |
| mterry | k | 12:56 |
| seb128 | the unity team tends to let whoever did the request merge his work it seems | 12:57 |
| seb128 | then they do a review of approved things not merged once a week before rolling tarballs | 12:57 |
| seb128 | didrocks can probably confirm that or not ;-) | 12:58 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, when you have commit right, it's better you merge it | 12:59 |
| didrocks | seb128: I think you are in ~unity-team, isn't it? | 12:59 |
| didrocks | oupss | 12:59 |
| didrocks | mterry: ^^ | 12:59 |
| didrocks | mterry: you have one pending merge :) | 12:59 |
| mterry | didrocks, so I should be merging branches of mine that get approved? But not branches that I approve? | 13:00 |
| didrocks | mterry: right | 13:01 |
| didrocks | for unity at least :) | 13:01 |
| mterry | yar | 13:01 |
| kenvandine | mterry, woot, you fixed empathy's contact menu! | 13:23 |
| * kenvandine high fives mterry | 13:23 | |
| bcurtiswx | what was wrong with it? | 13:24 |
| bcurtiswx | oh right, it didn't show..correct? | 13:25 |
| mterry | bcurtiswx, no, this one showed, but didn't do anything when clicked | 13:26 |
| mterry | a race condition | 13:26 |
| bcurtiswx | mterry, wow, great then :) | 13:26 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, the not showing part was fixed in dbusmenu last week | 13:27 |
| bcurtiswx | well, i must be captain oblivious this past weekend :-\ | 13:27 |
| bcurtiswx | have been* | 13:27 |
| dobey | pitti: hrmm, are you going to do a new upload of distutils-extra with mandel's patch? i've been trying to make a .deb, but quilt hates me :( | 13:30 |
| dobey | ah, stupid patch levels | 13:32 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| bcurtiswx | pedro_, did you get my ping from last night? | 13:42 |
| pedro_ | bcurtiswx, yes, i was going to point you to bug 731708 , is that the same you're facing? | 13:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 731708 in nautilus "nautilus doesn't run, Unique-DBus-WARNING, assertion 'watcher_id > 0' failed" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731708 | 13:46 |
| bcurtiswx | pedro_, yes that would be it, thx | 13:47 |
| pedro_ | bcurtiswx, you're welcome, please follow up there ;-) | 13:48 |
| bcurtiswx | pedro_, i figured a killall nautilus would help, except it just keeps respwaning | 13:48 |
| bcurtiswx | quite annoying | 13:48 |
| seb128 | pedro_, hey, that bug got fixed yesterday | 13:48 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, is it in the repos yet? | 13:49 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, yes, since yesterday | 13:49 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, what issue do you get? | 13:49 |
| bcurtiswx | hrmm, i had this bug last night. I can't access the machine right now (it's my desktop at home) but nautilus would just hang, heating up my system with CPU usage. I can't killall nautilus because it respawns, so I did it by terminal and got the same warning as that bug | 13:50 |
| bcurtiswx | it was right after a dist-upgrade from M-->N | 13:51 |
| seb128 | could be a different issue than the warning | 13:52 |
| seb128 | but without details or a stacktrace not easy to say | 13:52 |
| bcurtiswx | i can see what info i can grab when I get home later this evening GMT-4 (Eastern) | 13:53 |
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| mterry | seb128, OK, I started my CoreDev application page. If you want to help me along, leave an endorsement! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mterry/CoreDev | 14:43 |
| mterry | That goes for anyone else too. I like all endorsements | 14:46 |
| seb128 | mterry, \o/ | 14:46 |
| pitti | mterry: oh, great! will add my praise as well | 14:46 |
| mterry | yay | 14:47 |
| pitti | dobey: are you blocked on the new p-d-e? I can upload today if you need it, but it seemed to be a corner case | 14:50 |
| dobey | pitti: i got an upload into our nightlies ppa to fix it there, but we will need it in 11.04 also at some point soon i suspect, but not super urgent | 14:51 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: replied in 712725 | 14:52 |
| pitti | dobey: you have windows builds there? | 14:52 |
| pitti | dobey: we are talking about the ValueError crash when scanning over ctypes imports, right? | 14:53 |
| dobey | pitti: yes because ctypes.wintypes exists on linux, though it fails with the valueerror. which is why this is a problem at all | 14:54 |
| pitti | ah, ok | 14:55 |
| pitti | dobey: uploaded | 14:59 |
| dobey | pitti: cool, thanks | 15:00 |
| jibel | seb128, there's a bug with a patch proposed upstream that we need in natty for automated testing. | 15:01 |
| jibel | seb128, bug 690657 | 15:01 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 690657 in gnome-utils "Text Widget under combo box is not exposing accessibility" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/690657 | 15:01 |
| jibel | seb128, how to proceed to have it included in natty, is subscribing the desktop team ok and enough ? | 15:02 |
| seb128 | jibel: ubuntu-sponsors usually | 15:03 |
| seb128 | jibel: I noticed it but I was waiting for an upstream review | 15:03 |
| jibel | seb128, okay, I'll wait for a review but target it to natty b1 to not forget it. | 15:07 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: re replied in 712725. It would be a FFE. | 15:08 |
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| seb128 | jibel: I will try to get it in today or tomorrow | 15:10 |
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| mvo | pitti: is jockey driving dpkg/python-apt in a way that makes it not write logs to /var/log/apt/term.log ? I am triaging a bunch of package install failures and a lot of nvidia, b43 releated ones have failures but empty logs. any idea about this? | 15:25 |
| pitti | mvo: it's basically using apt.Cache()[pkg].markInstall(), and cache.commit() | 15:28 |
| pitti | mvo: all the apt code is in jockey/oslib.py, do you see anything wrong with it? | 15:28 |
| pitti | mvo: I don't deliberately disable logging | 15:28 |
| pitti | mvo: (off to long phone call now) | 15:29 |
| mvo | pitti: thanks, I have a look (I have a call now as well). the above should be fine but I will double check | 15:31 |
| jibel | seb128, great! thanks | 15:34 |
| seb128 | jibel: yw | 15:43 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, unity doesn't like your indicator-datetime-preferences desktop for some reason | 15:44 |
| mterry | seb128, probably just too awesome for unity | 15:44 |
| mterry | seb128, how doesn't it like it? | 15:44 |
| seb128 | mterry, it doesn't match indicator-datetime-preferences to it | 15:45 |
| seb128 | like the launcher doesn't get the right title etc | 15:45 |
| mterry | guh | 15:45 |
| seb128 | it gives an empty launcher title here with a fuzzy icon | 15:46 |
| seb128 | mterry, does it work for you? | 15:46 |
| seb128 | mterry, I'm trying indicator-datetime trunk with karl's pending work | 15:47 |
| mterry | seb128, does it show in the applications place? | 15:47 |
| seb128 | mterry, yes and it in gnome-panel menus | 15:48 |
| seb128 | I've tried running in on a command line, from the indicator or from gnome-panel | 15:48 |
| mterry | seb128, you installed it via a deb, right? | 15:48 |
| seb128 | yes | 15:48 |
| seb128 | I did bzr merge lp:indicator-datetime in the current packaging vcs and bzr bd that | 15:49 |
| seb128 | indicator-datetime-preferences.desktopindicator-datetime-preferences | 15:49 |
| seb128 | it's correctly listed in the index | 15:49 |
| seb128 | well I should restart my session to be sure I guess | 15:50 |
| seb128 | brb | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | uh oh... log session restart | 15:54 |
| kenvandine | hope he isn't busted :) | 15:55 |
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| bcurtiswx | mterry killed seb128 this time, not me :P | 16:08 |
| * kenvandine runs out for a bit, bbl | 16:08 | |
| seb128 | re | 16:11 |
| seb128 | ok, restarting was not the best idea, disk check and then gdm upstart issues | 16:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, I'm back ;-) | 16:11 |
| mterry | seb128, :) | 16:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, still the same after a restart, empty title and fuzzy icon | 16:11 |
| mterry | :( OK, looking into it | 16:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, do you get it as well? | 16:12 |
| mterry | seb128, I have to build trunk, I'm not running it right now | 16:12 |
| seb128 | mterry, don't bother | 16:13 |
| mterry | seb128, ? | 16:14 |
| seb128 | mterry, it's a cosmetic issue, it can wait today's tarball and tomorrow to be debugged | 16:14 |
| seb128 | mterry, I though you had the .desktop installed locally since you worked on it | 16:15 |
| mterry | I did but via a deb, so when I switched debs... | 16:15 |
| seb128 | doesn't seem an indicator issue anyway | 16:15 |
| seb128 | the .desktop is installed and listed correctly by the places and menus etc | 16:16 |
| kklimonda | seb128: do you have a moment? new glibmm release requires updated mm-common (and it's in universe for now) to build documentation. How should I proceed on gettinng it into main? | 16:19 |
| seb128 | kklimonda, the wiki has mir requirements details | 16:20 |
| seb128 | you need to file a bug asking for promotion with some details | 16:20 |
| mterry | kklimonda, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements | 16:21 |
| kklimonda | thanks. Should I first update it to the new version, and then request MIR? | 16:23 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, I've the feeling it doesn't like the "&" in the Name= | 16:23 |
| seb128 | mterry, if I replace it then it works | 16:24 |
| seb128 | mterry, sorry for the noise, not your fault | 16:24 |
| seb128 | it's DBO's fault | 16:24 |
| seb128 | or didrocks's ;-) | 16:24 |
| didrocks | hum? | 16:24 |
| DBO | hum? | 16:24 |
| seb128 | didrocks, unity launcher displays and empty title when there is a "&" in the name | 16:25 |
| seb128 | indicator-datetime-preferences.desktop:Name=Time & Date | 16:25 |
| seb128 | removing the & makes it work | 16:25 |
| didrocks | seb128: already fixed by a kind contributor :) | 16:25 |
| didrocks | not in trunk though | 16:25 |
| seb128 | so now wth is it displaying a blurry icon when there is a 48x48 svg | 16:26 |
| seb128 | in fact it's not | 16:27 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, sorry for the noise, everything is ok | 16:27 |
| seb128 | or will be when didrocks's merge the contributor patch in trunk ;-) | 16:27 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, in your GDM upstart, did you see any plymouth errors? | 16:29 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, no | 16:30 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, 'more /var/log/syslog | grep plymouth' | 16:31 |
| seb128 | no error | 16:32 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, Ok thx | 16:32 |
| seb128 | btw you can "grep plymouth syslog" | 16:32 |
| seb128 | it's less to type ;-) | 16:32 |
| bcurtiswx | im too lazy... wait... :P | 16:32 |
| bcurtiswx | i think i had too much fun with pipes and thats why i keep doing that.. | 16:33 |
| bcurtiswx | and this is where linux turns away from PG rating to R... totally hit enter before reading that one :-\ | 16:34 |
| dobey | pitti: why does new distutils-extra rewuire various python3 bits for build-depends? | 16:39 |
| pitti | dobey: because it runs the self tests for both python 2 and 3, and I needed some example libraries to run them against | 16:39 |
| pitti | so I took the smallest ones I could find which had the necessary properties (multiple modules, etc.) | 16:39 |
| dobey | oh :-/ | 16:40 |
| dobey | guess i will have to disable that for our PPA backport for lucid | 16:41 |
| mterry | seb128, oh, missed your messages. Yay! \o/ | 16:45 |
| pitti | dobey: you basically need to drop all but the first two lines in the override_dh_auto_install: rule in debian/rules, and drop the py3 build depends; then it should be fine | 16:46 |
| pitti | dobey: (oh, and drop the p3 package from debian/control, of course) | 16:46 |
| pitti | dobey: if you are just needing that one ctypes fix, we can also SRU this | 16:46 |
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| dobey | pitti: don't need an sru. we only need the fix in our nightlies. it is easier to just have the new version in our PPA | 16:49 |
| pitti | dobey: ack | 16:49 |
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| * mterry goes afk, errand | 17:27 | |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, seems you forget the actual patch on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=644560? | 17:30 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 644560 in Gal "Can't set an account password" [Normal,Needinfo] | 17:31 |
| kenvandine | seb128, what was the gdm upstart issue? | 17:34 |
| kenvandine | i have a box here that isn't starting gdm at boot... but looks like it is because plymouth is failing | 17:34 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, dunno, jhunt is still working it out | 17:34 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, no, it's likely the upstart job fault | 17:35 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, try using http://launchpadlibrarian.net/66503336/gdm.conf | 17:35 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, or downgrade | 17:35 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, or wait for the new one to build ;-) | 17:35 |
| kenvandine | i'll try it | 17:36 |
| kenvandine | weird thing is if i boot an older kernel it works | 17:36 |
| kenvandine | but with the latest kernel, if i drop to a VT and start gdm it works too | 17:37 |
| kenvandine | seems weird kernel versions would make a difference | 17:37 |
| kenvandine | oh | 17:37 |
| kenvandine | < if [ "$curr" = S -o "$prev" = unknown ] | 17:37 |
| kenvandine | so maybe it doesn't know the previous one | 17:38 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yup... that fixed it | 17:40 |
| kenvandine | :) | 17:40 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ;-) | 17:41 |
| kenvandine | thx | 17:41 |
| kenvandine | right before lunch i was searching for an existing bug on that | 17:41 |
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| * mterry is back | 18:23 | |
| seb128 | tedg, is http://paste.ubuntu.com/581238/ known? | 18:23 |
| seb128 | tedg, I get it running indicator-datetime in valgrind and restarting unity-panel-service | 18:24 |
| seb128 | tedg, is that a libindicator issue? | 18:24 |
| tedg | seb128, Yeah, it would be a libindicator issue. I think I've seen that trace before, but I could have sworn it was fixed :-/ | 18:25 |
| seb128 | tedg, still happening in natty | 18:25 |
| tedg | But yeah, definitely libindicator | 18:25 |
| seb128 | tedg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libindicator/+bug/719457 | 18:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 719457 in libindicator "valgrind invalid reads error on unloading" [Low,Fix released] | 18:25 |
| seb128 | seems similar | 18:25 |
| seb128 | bah, I closed it because it seemed fixed | 18:26 |
| seb128 | let's reopened | 18:26 |
| tedg | seb128, See I knew someone fixed it. ;-) | 18:26 |
| seb128 | lol | 18:26 |
| seb128 | tedg, I'm sure that's what you want, you ignore bug reports until the submitter gets confused and close it himself because there is no activity on the bug ;-) | 18:27 |
| tedg | seb128, SHHH!!! It's a secret strategy. | 18:27 |
| kenvandine | tedg, still can't upload? | 18:31 |
| tedg | kenvandine, No, got chrome... ido is up. libindicator is on it's way. | 18:32 |
| kenvandine | oh, cool | 18:32 |
| kenvandine | i guess i should have actually clicked on the link you sent | 18:33 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 18:33 |
| tedg | Yes, that's generally what they're for ;-) | 18:33 |
| chrisccoulson | kklimonda, down to half a screen of compiler errors with mongodb now ;) | 18:35 |
| vish | anyone up for sponsoring branch on bug 736250 ? :) | 18:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 736250 in cheese "Update oldish looking icons in cheese effects" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/736250 | 18:35 |
| kklimonda | chrisccoulson: you rock :) | 18:35 |
| tedg | seb128, So mterry fixed bug 569273 but I'm not sure how to mark the various distro tasks. | 18:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 569273 in indicator-application "memory leak in gnome-power-manager" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/569273 | 18:38 |
| tedg | seb128, Also, annoyingly. It's in libappindicator in Natty, but indicator-application in all the other distro series. | 18:39 |
| mterry | tedg, plus, mine was just the last nail in the coffin (hopefully) | 18:39 |
| mterry | tedg, some of those other tasks were arguably valid in the past but got reopened | 18:40 |
| tedg | mterry, Yeah. It makes marking the bug correctly difficult. | 18:40 |
| seb128 | tedg, set it invalid for the others lines | 18:57 |
| seb128 | tedg, we can do an also affect distribution, indicator-application, invalid natty and add stable series if we want | 18:57 |
| seb128 | is that an issue in lucid? | 18:57 |
| tedg | seb128, Was libappindicator in Lucid? If it was, it could have been. | 19:02 |
| tedg | seb128, I think we should definitely backport to Maverick. | 19:03 |
| tedg | seb128, It's literally a 5 character fix :) | 19:03 |
| seb128 | tedg, guess not, I think those issues started being raised in 10.10 | 19:03 |
| seb128 | tedg, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-application | 19:04 |
| * tedg should probably be more familiar with the exact dates of all of libappindicator as they're blogged about daily. | 19:07 | |
| seb128 | tedg, it's likely nothing was using it enough in lucid that it was an issue | 19:08 |
| tedg | seb128, Yeah, or nothing was completely replacing the menu everytime like g-p-m | 19:08 |
| seb128 | tedg, right | 19:09 |
| seb128 | mterry, do you want to sru you leak fix for maverick btw? | 19:09 |
| seb128 | mterry, we should probably sru the theme_cb crash one as well | 19:09 |
| mterry | seb128, i can do the leak, sure. which was the theme_cb? | 19:11 |
| seb128 | https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/libappindicator/fix-crash-708188/+merge/51356 | 19:13 |
| seb128 | mterry, ^ | 19:13 |
| mterry | so tiny. I am succinct. OK. I can prep an SRU for 10.10 | 19:14 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks | 19:16 |
| mterry | tedg, you swear that sinking the ref won't cause problems with anyone? Or put another way, you don't think any consumers corrected for the leak? | 19:25 |
| psusi | I somehow managed to get my min/max/close buttons back on the right and the system menu on the left. Is there a gconf key or something that controls this? | 19:25 |
| seb128 | mterry, let's get the other fix in and wait a bit to get natty feedbackon the ref thing | 19:26 |
| tedg | mterry, I don't know of anyone that did. I would have hoped they would have noted it to us... | 19:26 |
| vish | psusi: /apps/metacity/general/button_layout | 19:26 |
| vish | psusi: thats in the gconf^ | 19:26 |
| mterry | seb128, you mean do the theme_change separately? | 19:27 |
| seb128 | mterry, well the theme_change one seems safe and gnome-bt upstream specifically asked if we could fix that in stable since they keep receive crash bug upstream about it | 19:27 |
| mterry | k | 19:28 |
| seb128 | mterry, it's harder to say if the ref one will impact on applications, so better to wait a bit and see if any issue is raised in natty before backporting it | 19:28 |
| mterry | seb128, there is a safer fix we could apply just to g-p-m for 10.10 | 19:29 |
| mterry | other apps would leak, but I don't think any of them are nearly as bad | 19:29 |
| seb128 | mterry, if you want to do that go for it | 19:29 |
| psusi | vish: ahh, thanks... I kept looking for it in nautilus keys since it somehow got screwed up when I installed a new nautilius package... | 19:29 |
| seb128 | it seems to be the only real complain | 19:29 |
| seb128 | so should be enough for a non lts version | 19:30 |
| * mvo grumbles about the second compiz freeze of the day | 19:30 | |
| mvo | or unity | 19:30 |
| seb128 | mvo, it's frozen? or it's crashing and apport freezes it while it's getting infos? | 19:31 |
| mvo | good question, unity --reset killed the whole X | 19:32 |
| mvo | joy! | 19:32 |
| didrocks | mvo: screen freeze? there is a known Xorg freeze AFAIK | 19:32 |
| didrocks | but no compiz | 19:32 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yeah, blame it on the x guys | 19:32 |
| didrocks | totally :) | 19:33 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: hey, how are you? | 19:35 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - good thanks, how are you? | 19:35 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I wondered, did you hear about cases where flash videos in mozilla/chromium/etc. turned "red" recently? | 19:35 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I'm great, thanks! | 19:35 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, run away, pitti saying hello in the evening is a trap, he will give you work! | 19:35 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, i've seen it discussed a little bit. i can't recreate it, but i think someone already forwarded a bug to adobe | 19:36 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I seem to get this with the second video I play in firefox, until I purge the cookies; a friend of mine also noticed that after a maverick update, so I blame the flash plugin | 19:36 |
| kklimonda | hmm.. any idea what's happening: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/unity-2d-places: undefined symbol: _ZN12Unity2dDebug15installHandlersEv ? | 19:36 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: no, I don't want to give you actual work :) | 19:36 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-6327 | 19:36 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I just wondered whether you happened to know a better workaround than "disable cookies" | 19:36 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: ah, thanks muchly for the pointer | 19:36 |
| kenvandine | seb128, can you get libfolks out of binNEW? | 19:36 |
| kenvandine | it's holding up empathy | 19:37 |
| kenvandine | seb128, please :) | 19:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, pitti: ^ | 19:37 |
| seb128 | I don't have access from that box | 19:37 |
| seb128 | I'm just doing IRC right now from this box ;-) | 19:37 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - the last comment suggests that downgrading flash fixes it | 19:37 |
| pitti | kenvandine: yep, looking | 19:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 19:37 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, poor man's proxy? | 19:37 |
| kenvandine | pitti, thx | 19:37 |
| didrocks | seb128: you mean, you are just slacking? :p | 19:38 |
| pitti | seb128: or rather, rich man's? (buying a second laptop instead of installing bip?) :-P | 19:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, btw sjoerd pointed early that we should get farsight synced on debian, it seems we don't install some files in there | 19:38 |
| kenvandine | haha | 19:38 |
| kklimonda | ok, my bad | 19:38 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yeah, he told me you were doing it | 19:38 |
| seb128 | pitti, rather having an old one which is used for testing and other things ;-) | 19:38 |
| seb128 | pitti, lol | 19:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, well "synced" is merged we have a recommends diff there | 19:39 |
| didrocks | ok, time for dinner and evening, see you tomorrow! | 19:39 |
| kenvandine | seb128, ok | 19:40 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, well I failed to do it today so if you want feel free, otherwise I will try tomorrow | 19:40 |
| seb128 | 'night didrocks | 19:40 |
| didrocks | bonne nuit seb128 ;) | 19:40 |
| kenvandine | i should be able to do it | 19:40 |
| kenvandine | i think tedg is almost done abusing me for today :) | 19:40 |
| * tedg creates a libindicated quickly | 19:41 | |
| * kenvandine hides | 19:42 | |
| mxpxpod | is this the correct place to ask about things in the gnome 3 ppa? | 19:43 |
| pitti | kenvandine: libfolks nudged | 19:43 |
| kenvandine | pitti, thx! | 19:43 |
| cdbs | mxpxpod: fire away! | 19:44 |
| mxpxpod | I'm running gnome-shell from the gnome 3 ppa and the gtk theme looks wrong | 19:45 |
| mxpxpod | also, when I run a program like gnome-control-center from the command line, it tells me it can't find the named theme Adwaita | 19:45 |
| mxpxpod | I figure that the two are related | 19:46 |
| cdbs | mxpxpod: you need to have adwaita installed, looks like it isn't in the PPA yet | 19:46 |
| mxpxpod | really? I thought it was part of gnome-themes-standard | 19:46 |
| cdbs | mxpxpod: wait for someone to add it there first | 19:46 |
| mxpxpod | I know that there's a /usr/share/themes/Adwaita on my box | 19:47 |
| cdbs | oh wait, there IS gnome-themes in the PPA | 19:47 |
| cdbs | I dunno then, rodrigo_ ? ^^ | 19:47 |
| mxpxpod | I noticed kenvandine mentioned something about libfolks and empathy, and I'm guessing that will answer my question about the empathy package | 19:49 |
| mxpxpod | however, it seems that gucharmap still depends on libgtk3.0-0 and it's creating a conflict in apt-get dist-upgrade | 19:50 |
| seb128 | kklimonda, check with Kaleo maybe about the symbols error | 19:54 |
| seb128 | or try ogra | 19:54 |
| bdrung | did someone already complained about http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntu-natty-adds-control-centre-entry-to-session-menu/ ? | 19:55 |
| bdrung | is there a bug report against this change? | 19:55 |
| seb128 | no | 19:55 |
| bdrung | this change is similar to putting "shutdown" under "start" | 19:55 |
| bdrung | seb128: in which package was this change made? | 19:56 |
| kklimonda | seb128: figured it out, a perfect pebkac case :) | 19:57 |
| seb128 | bdrung, indicator-session | 19:57 |
| seb128 | bdrung, bug #727823 | 19:58 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 727823 in ayatana-design "Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add "System Settings" link to the session indicator menu" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727823 | 19:58 |
| chrisccoulson | looks like all you natty users are now using firefox 4 final ;) | 19:58 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, no change between rc and stable? | 19:58 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - there's no plan for another RC now, which means that what we have now is what will be released on 22nd | 19:58 |
| bdrung | seb128: should i comment that bug or open a new one? | 19:59 |
| seb128 | bdrung, open a new one and comment to give the number | 20:00 |
| seb128 | bdrung, btw if you read the bug the indicator used was already being argued there | 20:02 |
| chrisccoulson | kklimonda, what are you building to give you that error btw? | 20:03 |
| chrisccoulson | oh | 20:03 |
| chrisccoulson | actually, you said in your message ;) | 20:04 |
| mterry | seb128, bug 708188 and bug 569273 are ready for SRU | 20:06 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 708188 in libappindicator "softwares using libappindicator crash with SIGSEGV in theme_changed_cb()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708188 | 20:06 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 569273 in indicator-application "memory leak in gnome-power-manager" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/569273 | 20:06 |
| seb128 | mterry, well done ;-) | 20:07 |
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| mxpxpod | how do I keep nautilus from running when gnome starts with gnome-shell? | 20:23 |
| pitti | good night everyone | 20:34 |
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| seb128 | re | 21:42 |
| seb128 | tedg, did you roll indicator-dt yet? | 21:42 |
| tedg | seb128, Yup | 21:43 |
| seb128 | hum, ok | 21:43 |
| seb128 | tedg, you can clean the g-s-t requirements from the configure and the remaining include | 21:43 |
| seb128 | it has been switched to the use g-s-d | 21:43 |
| seb128 | well that will be for the next update | 21:44 |
| tedg | seb128, Are you saying no oobs for me? | 21:44 |
| seb128 | it works fine without those, I built trunk with those dropped today | 21:44 |
| seb128 | tedg, no, not for you ;-) | 21:45 |
| tedg | seb128, done | 21:48 |
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| seb128 | tedg, hum, bug #729150 | 22:22 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 729150 in libappindicator "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729150 | 22:22 |
| seb128 | which is mterry? | 22:22 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, are you still here? | 22:23 |
| tedg | seb128, We're discussing the fix on the merge request | 22:23 |
| seb128 | tedg, ok, just got that | 22:23 |
| seb128 | is bug #708118 fixed or not? | 22:23 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 708118 in libappindicator "nm-applet crashes with SIGSEGV in icon_name_hash()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708118 | 22:24 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, ^ | 22:24 |
| seb128 | it didn't get recent duplicates | 22:24 |
| seb128 | nor comment | 22:24 |
| cyphermox | right | 22:24 |
| cyphermox | I think that's because it has all the bugs at the moment when the retracers didn't work correctly two weeks ago | 22:25 |
| cyphermox | it's not fixed, we should talk about how to set use-fallback on the GtkImage used by the GtkStatusIcon created by libappindicator | 22:25 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, what do you mean about the retracers? | 22:26 |
| cyphermox | nevermind, I was talking about something else | 22:26 |
| cyphermox | yeah, if I try to duplicate it I'd get an error | 22:26 |
| seb128 | oh you think it's the same issue than the other one? | 22:27 |
| cyphermox | yes, same issue as the bug number in the last comment: 729150 | 22:27 |
| cyphermox | seb128, have you looked at the merge request too? | 22:28 |
| seb128 | ok | 22:29 |
| seb128 | it's but it's not clear to me what the issue is or why that fixes it | 22:29 |
| seb128 | it's -> yes | 22:31 |
| cyphermox | seb128, afaict while the icon gets created the gicon is unref'ed before the icon is done -- or while icons are being changed due to an update of the cache | 22:31 |
| cyphermox | using icon names bypass this completely | 22:32 |
| seb128 | seems a bug in gtk then? | 22:32 |
| cyphermox | I also found that not unrefing themed_icon doesn't cause this crash | 22:32 |
| seb128 | but that would create some leaks | 22:32 |
| cyphermox | right | 22:33 |
| cyphermox | I thought keeping it as a member of whatever structure appindicators have an unref'ing just before creating a new one would work, but I haven't tested it | 22:34 |
| cyphermox | seb128, also, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614800 | 22:34 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 614800 in gtk "Crash in find_image_offset()" [Critical,Unconfirmed] | 22:34 |
| seb128 | where did ted go? | 22:35 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, yeah, I'm just trying to see how we get it fixed for this cycle | 22:35 |
| seb128 | seems there is a gtk issue that you try to workaround there | 22:35 |
| cyphermox | seb128, I tend to agree with milanbv 's analysis though that it's really in libappindicator more than gtk... although gtk should be able to sustain the cache being rebuilt anytime | 22:37 |
| seb128 | is that crash only happening when the cache is being rebuilt? | 22:38 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 22:38 |
| cyphermox | see my last comment in the gnome bug, that's how I was able to reproduce it consistently | 22:39 |
| seb128 | is nm reconnecting on upgrade? | 22:39 |
| seb128 | it seems weird that users run that often in nm reconnecting while the icon cache is rebuilt | 22:39 |
| cyphermox | it doesn't reconnect but icons are being updated regularly for wifi signal strength | 22:40 |
| cyphermox | seb128, note this only crashes when using the fallback more to the notification area | 22:41 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, but how can the gicon been unrefed while in use? | 22:41 |
| cyphermox | seb128, don't know. my guess is that the icon/theme change signal sent when the cache is updated is received from both the appindicator stuff and the underlying gtkstatusicon, and they both fight to update the icon | 22:42 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, you are sure it's the same issue? | 22:45 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, seems the new bug is due to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libappindicator/trunk/revision/195 | 22:45 |
| seb128 | it's the fix for bug #708188 | 22:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 708188 in libappindicator "softwares using libappindicator crash with SIGSEGV in theme_changed_cb()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708188 | 22:45 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, the bugs started the day after the commit landed in natty | 22:46 |
| cyphermox | seb128, it's the same stack trace. | 22:47 |
| cyphermox | unless you see something different that I missed? | 22:47 |
| kenvandine | seb128, indicator-datetime uploaded... lets hope the bugs stop coming in :) | 22:47 |
| cyphermox | seb128, I also looked at it with Q-FUNK to confirmed it came from the same set of circumstances | 22:48 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, ok, so those users are not running unity nor GNOME with indicators? | 22:49 |
| cyphermox | (Q-FUNK reported a duplicate of bug 729150 | 22:49 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 729150 in libappindicator "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729150 | 22:49 |
| seb128 | interesting to see that we get that number of users using the fallback there | 22:49 |
| seb128 | or do they run other desktops, i;e xfce or something? | 22:50 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 22:50 |
| cyphermox | seb128, I don't think xfce is affected, micahg told me something about blacklisting libs | 22:50 |
| cyphermox | but these users use whatever DE with a notification area, not indicators | 22:50 |
| seb128 | well you can have both | 22:51 |
| seb128 | ie that's what classic GNOME has | 22:52 |
| cyphermox | well, yes | 22:52 |
| cyphermox | but if indicator-application is running, it will catch nm-applet. AFAICT then nm-applet doesn't crash | 22:52 |
| cyphermox | though I could have just not been able to reproduce it in that case | 22:52 |
| seb128 | bug #725417 | 22:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 725417 in notify-osd "notify-osd crashed with signal 7 in find_image_offset()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725417 | 22:53 |
| seb128 | seems a similar crash but notify-osd doesn't use libappindicator | 22:53 |
| cyphermox | sure looks the same | 22:53 |
| cyphermox | fair enough, I'm convinced it's a gtk issue... but I have no clue how to fix it | 22:54 |
| cyphermox | oh wait no, that's not the same thing | 22:54 |
| cyphermox | notice how the icon_name is set there? | 22:55 |
| cyphermox | it also seems to be a notification generated by nm-applet :'( | 22:57 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, right | 22:59 |
| seb128 | ok, not sure what is causing the issue either bug seems something that be handled for natty | 22:59 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 23:04 |
| seb128 | the update you suggest could work but it would still be nice to understand the issue | 23:05 |
| seb128 | it's frustrating to not having an explanation ;-) | 23:05 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 23:06 |
| cyphermox | it's also frustrating that this is the last reported crasher for nm-applet ;) | 23:06 |
| seb128 | seems a common one though | 23:07 |
| cyphermox | yeah... scary how many users seems to have it... and seem to use classic gnome | 23:07 |
| seb128 | would be interesting to know what desktop those users are running, especially if that's GNOME but without the indicator applet configured | 23:07 |
| cyphermox | I know for sure that's the case for Q-FUNK | 23:07 |
| seb128 | it seems weird that they drop the indicator-applet | 23:07 |
| cyphermox | I should ask sebner too | 23:07 |
| seb128 | he dropped the indicator? do you know why? | 23:07 |
| cyphermox | "hardcore gnome2 user" | 23:08 |
| seb128 | it seemed that users got used to it nowadays are are mostly fine with it | 23:08 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 23:08 |
| cyphermox | well I see the main bug for 729150 is running unity-2d | 23:09 |
| seb128 | that's a misleading tag | 23:09 |
| cyphermox | ah | 23:09 |
| seb128 | it means unity-2d is installed | 23:09 |
| cyphermox | oh | 23:10 |
| seb128 | none has the running-unity tag | 23:10 |
| seb128 | well in the recent bug duplicates | 23:11 |
| seb128 | so it's not likely an issue under unity | 23:11 |
| seb128 | which would confirm that it's only in fallbacking code | 23:11 |
| cyphermox | I'm fairly confident it's when not running unity or indicator applets | 23:11 |
| seb128 | still surprising that GNOME classic users still drop the indicator-applet nowadays | 23:11 |
| cyphermox | seb128, could be others though -- xubuntu, and all | 23:12 |
| seb128 | if you run into some maybe ask them why ;-) | 23:12 |
| seb128 | right. | 23:12 |
| cyphermox | any idea how this could be broken in gtk? | 23:12 |
| seb128 | no, I fail to understand the issue still | 23:13 |
| cyphermox | then no wonder I also don't understand it :) | 23:13 |
| seb128 | the gicon can't really go away under the code feet in the middle of a call | 23:13 |
| seb128 | but I'm not really familiar with that code and some other people have debugged it for a while so I don't expect I would find something obvious | 23:14 |
| cyphermox | I couldn't find a place where the gicon was ref'ed by the gtkstatusicon or gtkiconcache code | 23:14 |
| cyphermox | but my understanding of gtk is still pretty limited | 23:15 |
| seb128 | let's see if we can get someone in dx helping there, I will ask them tomorrow | 23:15 |
| cyphermox | ok | 23:15 |
| seb128 | hum, I'm was checking fix commited bugs on launchpad | 23:15 |
| seb128 | the alsa-drivers source has like 15% of those | 23:16 |
| seb128 | do they stack years of fix or just never clean the bugs that are fixed? ;-) | 23:16 |
| cyphermox | even if I'm silent in the channel, I'm there around 7h30am to 8am my time | 23:16 |
| cyphermox | heh | 23:17 |
| seb128 | was that for here or a channel error? ;-) | 23:17 |
| seb128 | (just curious seemed out of context) | 23:17 |
| cyphermox | no it was for here | 23:17 |
| cyphermox | you said you'd ask dx tomorrow | 23:17 |
| cyphermox | let me know early ;) | 23:17 |
| seb128 | ok | 23:18 |
| seb128 | desrt, there? | 23:18 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, howdy | 23:20 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, hello | 23:20 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, how are you? | 23:20 |
| robert_ancell | good, what are you doing here at this time :) | 23:20 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, don't worry I don't have work for you (yet), just saying hello ;-) | 23:20 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, checking also how much work you have and if you want some desktopish bugs assigned when I run into so or if you are set | 23:21 |
| seb128 | so -> some | 23:21 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I'm mostly busy, but send me some suggestions - if they're in my knowledge set I'll grab them | 23:22 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, well, tv is boring and I'm sitting in front of it with the laptop on and I had IRC running because I was following some discussions ;-) | 23:22 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I've nothing specific, the only one I can think of right now is get gnome-display-properties to not display it's hint in the screen corner when not focussed which seems a frequent complain of people doing presentation on beamers and such | 23:23 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, sounds interesting, bug number? | 23:24 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, bug #403840 seems close enough | 23:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 403840 in gnome-control-center "Display Preferences Monitor identification should be optional" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403840 | 23:26 |
| seb128 | but I might open a new one, I know it's something people often complain about at conferences or UDS and that was raised as hundredpapercut issue | 23:26 |
| robert_ancell | should be easy, that's a fun looking bug :) | 23:28 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, great! ;-) | 23:30 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, oh, there also a gdm one | 23:30 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, busy *mumble mumble* | 23:30 |
| seb128 | since we know how you love gdm right ;-) | 23:30 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, well, bug #696038 if you feel like taking it | 23:31 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 696038 in gdm "system user appears in login list of users" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696038 | 23:31 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, we do need to fix that one. I'll take a look | 23:31 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, it shouldn't be one of those bugs where you need to fight with the code layers etc | 23:31 |
| seb128 | so it might be okish ;-) | 23:32 |
| robert_ancell | don't count on it | 23:32 |
| robert_ancell | it will be something stupid | 23:32 |
| seb128 | ok, famous last word right? | 23:32 |
| robert_ancell | it's probably buried deep in console kit somewhere | 23:32 |
| seb128 | should know better than commenting on gdm bugs being easy ;-) | 23:32 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, well, ck-history list those but that might be ok since they really logged in | 23:33 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, it's the uid filtering gdm is doing that seems to not work, or not apply to ck lists | 23:33 |
| seb128 | I don't think we should aim at making ck not list those | 23:33 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I will sync libwnck3 | 23:34 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, just saw the #debian-gnome mention | 23:34 |
| robert_ancell | ah, thanks :) | 23:34 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, the empty line is annoying me on versions ;-) | 23:34 |
| robert_ancell | heh, that's why I put it there! | 23:34 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 23:35 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, bug #610802 | 23:35 |
| seb128 | ok found it | 23:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 610802 in hundredpapercuts "'Mirror Screens' often seen on projectors during presentations." [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610802 | 23:35 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, what do you think about this - when we get near final freeze the packages that are synced with debian but not up to date we make -ubuntu versions of them, then sync them for Oneiric? | 23:35 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I've assigned it to you | 23:35 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, seems fine to me, though I don't think we will have much to update this cycle since we are mostly uptodate on GNOME 2.32 | 23:36 |
| seb128 | but for GNOME3 packages sure | 23:36 |
| robert_ancell | yup | 23:36 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, ignore the email about bug #216144 I wrote your name in the wrong tag | 23:37 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 216144 in gnome-control-center "gnome-display-properties should allow the primary screen to be chosen" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216144 | 23:37 |
| seb128 | tab | 23:37 |
| seb128 | if someone cares about anjuta it seems it might need a rebuilt with a newer vala to fix a crash on start | 23:50 |
| seb128 | upstream thinks it's could be due to vala abi breaks | 23:50 |
| seb128 | bug #722079 as well | 23:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 722079 in libgda4 "When installing Anjuta in Natty Alpha libsqlite3.so is missing" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/722079 | 23:50 |
| seb128 | ted: you won bug #726005 btw | 23:51 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 726005 in indicator-applet "indicator-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__POINTER()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726005 | 23:51 |
| seb128 | ups, he's not there | 23:51 |
| seb128 | ok, enough computer for today | 23:51 |
| seb128 | 'night everybody | 23:52 |
| psusi | is this channel logged? someone told me what gconf key controlled whether the min/max/close buttons are on the right or left earlier, and I forgot what it was... | 23:56 |
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