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bcurtiswxReinstallation of telepathy-haze is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.01:21
bcurtiswxin natty, afaik it can be :-\01:21
psusiwhile testing an unrelated patch to nautilus, I find that my system menu is back and the minimize/maximize/close icons are back on the right side of the window.  This is still the case after downgrading packages.  The menus are normal if I log in as another user.  What about my profile got screwed up to cause this?01:25
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pittiGood morning06:06
pittidobey: ah, I never noticed that; yes, it adds the .bzr-builddeb/ dir, as this is not part of debian/, but also not part of upstream06:09
pittidobey: kind of a shortcoming of bzr-bd06:09
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robert_ancellhey pitti - the langpack stuff doesn't work with dh7 does it?06:18
pittihey robert_ancell06:19
pittirobert_ancell: not yet, no; we didn't yet create a dh_langpack for the magic, it's all in the cdbs langpack.mk so far06:19
robert_ancellpitti, ok, cheers06:19
robert_ancellpitti, actually you might be able to help me with this one.  You seem to be a regular uploader to aptdaemon, is it OK to change it to cdbs so it uses langpack.mk?06:21
pittirobert_ancell: which parts do we need from it actually? just pot file building?06:22
robert_ancellpitti, the .policy file conversion to using gettext-domain and stripping the xml translations06:22
robert_ancellbug 69027006:22
ubot2Launchpad bug 690270 in ubuntu-translations "Translated String (zh_TW) Not Showed within aptdaemon" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69027006:22
pittirobert_ancell: so, not sure whether glatzor/mvo would mind a cdbs conversion; TBH I'd rather ask them first06:24
robert_ancellpitti, ok np, I'll flick them the bug06:24
pittirobert_ancell: we haven't had the problem so far, but as we do now I can also look into creating a dh_langpacks06:24
robert_ancellpitti, can we do it without duplicating the code?06:24
pittirobert_ancell: the code would move to dh_langpacks, and cdbs langpack.mk would then just call that06:25
robert_ancelloh that's good - that sounds like the best solution06:25
pittimain question is in which package to ship it06:26
pittiI guess I could build it from pkgbinarymangler06:26
pittiand produce a new dh-langpack package06:26
pittiwhich cdbs would then depend on06:26
pittithen it would be seamless for cdbs06:27
robert_ancellseamless always sounds good :)06:30
Amaranthrobert_ancell: I just made compiz depend on cdbs for langpack stuff even though it uses a dh7-style build system06:50
robert_ancellAmaranth, so you can get around it?  Thanks06:50
AmaranthHmm, actually I'm not even sure where this code came from06:51
AmaranthBut yeah, there is code in the compiz debian/rules for calling out to cdbs stuff for handling .desktop and .schema files for language packs06:52
AmaranthI must have copied it from another package in Ubuntu, either that or didrocks did it06:52
pittiAmaranth: so it seems it gets high time for dh --with=langpack06:55
* mvo hugs glatzor06:56
pittihey glatzor, hey mvo, guten Morgen06:56
mvohey pitti, guten morgen!06:57
didrocksgood morning06:59
Amaranthmorning didrocks07:00
didrockshey Amaranth07:00
Amaranthdidrocks: hey, did you add the code in the compiz debian/rules for using cdbs stuff for langpacks?07:00
AmaranthI suppose I could just bzr blame but this seems easier07:00
didrocksAmaranth: IIRC, I did port that07:00
pittirobert_ancell, Amaranth: bug 735934 FYI, feel free to subscribe07:01
ubot2Launchpad bug 735934 in pkgbinarymangler "Build dh_langpack" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73593407:01
pittididrocks: ^ I think you were interested in that as well07:01
AmaranthI remember having issues building it on a PPA that I didn't locally because I had cdbs already so I thought I copied it from somewhere07:01
didrocksAmaranth: I don't use cdbs, it's all dhè07:01
Amaranthdidrocks: Oh, we were just talking about that bug and I started thinking about it07:02
Amaranthdidrocks: But you call out to perl scripts installed by cdbs07:02
didrockspitti: yeah, that's part of I wanted to do07:03
didrocksstill have the task, working on more urgent stuff, right now, though07:03
pittididrocks: I'll work on it07:03
didrocksok :)07:03
pittididrocks: just want to point it out because I remembered that you were interested in using it07:03
didrockspitti: btw, is the gnome-session stuff still scheduled?07:04
pittididrocks: I have kept getting RCish bugs to work on so far :/07:04
didrockspitti: not only for you, I would think that the whole team was concerned about gnome-session :)07:05
mvothanks robert_ancell for the analysis on 69027007:07
didrockspitti: I'll try to get some time this evening to work on it07:07
robert_ancellmvo, np07:07
evilvish anyone heard of mousetweaks segfaulting in maverick?08:14
pittibonjour seb12808:47
seb128hello pitti08:47
seb128how are you?08:47
pittiseb128: I'm great, thanks!08:48
pittiwas nice last night, had both our parents over, made pizza, and had some sparkling wine :)08:49
rodrigo_hi seb128, pitti08:49
pittihey rodrigo_, how are you?08:49
rodrigo_pitti, I'm fine, thanks08:49
seb128hey rodrigo_08:50
seb128pitti, great!08:50
seb128pitti, so you drink wine now? ;-)08:50
pittiseb128: well, we call that "Sekt", it's similar to champagner08:50
pittiI do drink that, yes08:50
pittiI don't drink red wine at all, but recently I started to try some light white wine08:51
pitti(oh, and wine isn't off-topic here! ask YokoZar!)08:51
rodrigo_there is an ubuntu package for wine, so no, not off-topic here :)08:52
pittirodrigo_: yeah, YokoZar is the maintainer08:52
rodrigo_ah :)08:52
* pitti CPRs seb128 - are you back yet?08:53
seb128urg, internet went flacky and back08:56
pitti*phew*, he's back08:57
seb128pitti, hey again ;-)08:57
* pitti hugs seb12808:57
seb128bah, seems the gdm update fails to start for some users08:57
* seb128 hugs pitti08:57
seb128hate gdm!08:57
pittimy fault?08:57
seb128there are  changes in it08:58
seb128one ipv xdmcp git backport which I doubt would break things08:58
seb128jhunt's upstart tweaking08:58
seb128your's git backport for this login crash thing08:58
pittidoesn't start at all, or crashes? In the former case, I'd blame the upstart changes08:58
seb128I don't see anything obviously wrong08:58
seb128could be the upstart one?08:59
pittiI haven't rebooted since this morning's updates yet08:59
seb128they say it randomly doesn't start08:59
pittiseb128: depends on the symptoms -- crash or not start08:59
pittibut my backported login crash is fairly obvious08:59
seb128bug #73580508:59
ubot2Launchpad bug 735805 in gdm "GDM fails to start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73580508:59
pittiit just hides a widget under some condition which we don't have by default08:59
seb128bdrung, ^ do you have specifics?08:59
pittiseb128: hm, can't see anything obviously broken in the upstart changes either09:06
pittiunless "runlevel PREVLEVEL=S" is true very early in the boot, in which case it would fail to start09:06
pittior calling runlevel fails09:06
pittiseb128: replied to the bug09:09
seb128pitti, thanks09:09
didrockspitti: good news, the gnome-session change isn't needed anymore. Now unity will disable itself if it launched and can't run10:11
pittididrocks: oh, that's great!10:12
seb128hum, dear update-manager stop freezing and triggering apport if someone dismiss the password dialog by error10:27
cdbsseb128: yes, just noticed10:30
seb128hey cdbs ;-)10:31
cdbsseb128: hi, how are you doing?10:31
cdbsseb128: my 4 month long study leave just ended, unfortunately I was not very active in this cycle because of exam10:32
seb128cdbs, I'm fine thanks, how are you?10:32
ogra_seb128, why did you drop the armel workaround from telepathy-glib11:18
seb128ogra_, because I hate freedom and armel as well ;-)11:19
seb128ogra_, joke aside what workaround?11:19
seb128ogra_, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-glib/+changelog11:19
ogra_looks screwed up to me11:20
seb128ogra_, we are on sync for a while11:20
ogra_telepathy-glib (0.11.13-1ubuntu2) maverick; urgency=low11:20
ogra_  * use -O0 on armel builds to work around FTBFS due to failing selftests11:20
ogra_    issue is described in launchpad bug 623979, failing buildlog is attached11:20
ogra_    to that bug.11:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 623979 in telepathy-glib "telepathy-glib fails to build on armel due to two unsuccessfull selftests" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62397911:20
ogra_apt-get soruce telepath-glib gets me a pretty different changelog btw11:21
seb128ogra_, right, it gives you the debian one since we synced11:22
ogra_without any ubuntu entries11:22
seb128ogra_, right, it's coming from debian11:22
seb128ogra_, why would they have ubuntu entries?11:22
seb128ogra_, on why we dropped the -O0 because I had no clue if that was still an issue with the new gcc, telepathy stack, etc11:23
seb128and it's easier to sync with debian during the unstable cycle11:23
ogra_dunno why *they* would have them, but it would be good to not lose our entries for being able to look stuff up11:23
seb128ogra_, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-glib/+changelog is what you are looking for11:23
seb128ogra_, we will not start merging every package that had ubuntu uploads rather than sync just for the changelog11:23
ogra_sure ...11:23
seb128that wouldn't make sense11:24
ogra_well, it was a bit irritating11:24
seb128ogra_, to start why nobody sent the workaround to debian?11:24
ogra_debian doesnt need it, they dont use our optimization levels11:25
ogra_(they build for armv5 etc etc)11:25
seb128could we be smart and only turn it on where needed?11:25
seb128so we could keep the source without diff over debian11:26
seb128well, we could send them a patch with a dpkg-vendor call11:26
seb128i.e just enable it on Ubuntu11:26
pitti... and make sure that we have a gcc bug filed for this11:26
ogra_its definitely a but that we need it at all, someone should fix it in the code i guess11:27
ogra_for now i would just like to have images again though11:29
seb128ogra_, then get someone from linaro to work on the gcc issue?11:31
ogra_seb128, well, that will take weeks (by experience) gcc uploads dont just happen every day11:31
seb128well it's over a cycle11:31
ogra_i will have to apply the workaround anyway to get images back i fear11:31
seb128ogra_, ok, that's fine, it just made our job easier to sync during the unstable cycle, but I will drop it again next cycle11:32
seb128ogra_, you should really open a gcc bug and maybe makes a patch that debian could take meanwhile, like using dpkg-vendor and set the workaround on Ubuntu11:33
ogra_well, first lets see if it fixes it still ;)11:33
ogra_yes, i will talk to linaro and open a bug11:33
bdrungseb128: i confirm that it's a breakage in the upstart job (bug #735805).11:33
ubot2Launchpad bug 735805 in gdm "GDM fails to start" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73580511:33
seb128bdrung, thanks11:34
bdrungseb128: anything else you want to know?11:34
seb128bdrung, can you maybe ping jhunt on #ubuntu-devel?11:34
seb128bdrung, he's the one who did the change and he's investigating the breakage now but he doesn't get the issue11:34
chrisccoulsonkklimonda, did you have any luck getting mongodb working with the latest mozjs?11:35
kklimondachrisccoulson: no, I did fix some issues but I hit weird errors like http://pastebin.com/Pn4udv5z - I've commented on the upstream ticket, and I will probably give it another shoot next week, but now I'm swamped with work (both Ubuntu-related and not) so I can't tell if I'll get it into any shape before beta.11:43
seb128rodrigo_, do you think you could upstream the patch from bug #736042?11:43
ubot2Launchpad bug 736042 in gnome-media "add "PULSE_PROP_media.role" to gnome-sound-recorder" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73604211:43
rodrigo_seb128, looking11:44
chrisccoulsonkklimonda, thanks. where is the upstream ticket?11:44
seb128rodrigo_, hum, that's probably still in gnome-media which you don't maintain upstream, I guess we better git format that and send the bugzilla rather11:44
kklimondachrisccoulson: http://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-268311:44
rodrigo_seb128, that's what I was going to do11:44
seb128rodrigo_, if you want to do it please do ;-)11:45
seb128rodrigo_, thanks11:45
rodrigo_seb128, ok11:45
rodrigo_seb128, hmm, where else do we use that PULSE_PROP thing?11:47
seb128rodrigo_, http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/ApplicationProperties11:47
seb128rodrigo_, in ubuntu it's useful for the indicator sound11:48
seb128rodrigo_, it will show input sliders when you start an application which set it to phone or production see bug #73604911:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 736049 in indicator-sound "show record level control on PULSE_PROP_media.role=production" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73604911:48
chrisccoulsonkklimonda, is the WIP patch anywhere?11:49
Sweetsharkpitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/712725 could you give the merge another try?11:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 712725 in nlpsolver "[MIR] libreoffice-nlpsolver" [Medium,Confirmed]11:51
kklimondaseb128: looks like the new glibmm release build-depends on mm-common for building documentation and mm-common is in universe.11:51
Sweetshark(see the latest comment on the issue)11:52
kklimondachrisccoulson: no, but I can push what I wrote to github.. actually, there isn't much so I can just git you a diff itself ;)11:53
chrisccoulsonkklimonda, yes please. i'll take a look later on11:54
kklimondachrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/581055/11:55
didrockshum, we need to do a fake upload to pull in a package which is in debian NEW? we can't get the dsc file from it?11:55
Laneyno you can't11:55
didrocksok, thanks Laney :)11:56
Laneygrab it from $VCS and upload, then sync when it's uploaded11:57
didrocksLaney: yeah, I'm asking to the maintainer to do it if possible, then I will NEW it :)12:04
chrisccoulsonkklimonda, oh, i didn't realise that mongodb's malloc override was declared inline. that might be the real issue with assigning it to a pointer12:07
kklimondachrisccoulson: afair the problem I was trying to solve wasn't about it being assigned to pointer, but about malloc being expanded to mongo::ourmalloc in some xulrunner header, but I will happily agree with you - I'm much more of a C coder, than the C++ one. If you can describe it in detail I'd be thankful.12:12
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didrocksseb128: IIRC, you were talking about some gdm issue this morning?12:14
didrocksseb128: seems people on the french forum get a black screen at start since then12:14
seb128didrocks, right, there is an issue with jhunt's upstart job tweaks12:23
didrocksok, it's upstart then12:23
seb128didrocks, they can switch to a vt and start gdm there12:23
seb128didrocks, no, it's the gdm job12:24
didrocksoh? ok12:24
didrocksseb128: yeah, they already found the vt tweak :)12:24
seb128didrocks, bug #73580512:24
ubot2Launchpad bug 735805 in gdm "GDM fails to start" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73580512:24
didrocksseb128: ok, reading, thanks :)12:26
seb128didrocks, see that's when I'm happy about my no upload on friday rule ;-)12:27
seb128didrocks, I was pondering uploading that or not ;-)12:27
didrocksseb128: oh, you already know I totally agree with this rule :-)12:27
didrocksoh really?12:27
didrocksheh ;)12:27
didrockslike "uploaded kthxbye"12:27
seb128well that's rather that I merged jhunt's fix and there was a crash fix pending12:28
seb128so I pondered uploading with those or not12:28
didrockswell, stick to this rule :)12:28
didrocks(I still think Friday morning is okayish)12:28
didrocksas long as it hits the repo before lunch :)12:28
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seb128hey mterry12:48
seb128is your recent merge request fixing bug #73097612:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 730976 in libdbusmenu "LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-DEBUG: Could not handle image type 0" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73097612:48
mterryseb128, ah, yes!12:49
mterryseb128, didn't think to look for a bug12:49
mterryseb128, do you know of a bug for the "dbusmenu_gtk_parse_get_cached_item: assertion `GTK_IS_MENU_ITEM(widget)' failed" message?12:50
seb128mterry, ted did a merge request for it yesterday12:51
mterryseb128, oh, swell12:52
seb128mterry, see https://code.edge.launchpad.net/dbusmenu/+activereviews12:52
seb128if you want to review and ack it ;-)12:52
seb128mterry, it's the no spam for seb one12:53
seb128mterry, btw ted's tarball are due today12:53
seb128if you have things to get in12:53
mterryseb128, naw12:54
mterryseb128, my empathy menu fix is empathy-side12:54
mterryseb128, just realized I have the ability to review dbusmenu branches.  Do you know policy?  Should I merge it myself?12:55
mterry(i mean, for ted's branches that I approve)12:56
seb128mterry, not sure, check with ted, usually other dx-ers ack it but don't merge but I guess that's because they don't have a local checkout handy etc12:56
seb128i.e it's easier for them to just ack and ted handle the merge12:56
seb128the unity team tends to let whoever did the request merge his work it seems12:57
seb128then they do a review of approved things not merged once a week before rolling tarballs12:57
seb128didrocks can probably confirm that or not ;-)12:58
didrocksseb128: yeah, when you have commit right, it's better you merge it12:59
didrocksseb128: I think you are in ~unity-team, isn't it?12:59
didrocksmterry: ^^12:59
didrocksmterry: you have one pending merge :)12:59
mterrydidrocks, so I should be merging branches of mine that get approved?  But not branches that I approve?13:00
didrocksmterry: right13:01
didrocksfor unity at least :)13:01
kenvandinemterry, woot, you fixed empathy's contact menu!13:23
* kenvandine high fives mterry13:23
bcurtiswxwhat was wrong with it?13:24
bcurtiswxoh right, it didn't show..correct?13:25
mterrybcurtiswx, no, this one showed, but didn't do anything when clicked13:26
mterrya race condition13:26
bcurtiswxmterry, wow, great then :)13:26
kenvandinebcurtiswx, the not showing part was fixed in dbusmenu last week13:27
bcurtiswxwell, i must be captain oblivious this past weekend :-\13:27
bcurtiswxhave been*13:27
dobeypitti: hrmm, are you going to do a new upload of distutils-extra with mandel's patch? i've been trying to make a .deb, but quilt hates me :(13:30
dobeyah, stupid patch levels13:32
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bcurtiswxpedro_, did you get my ping from last night?13:42
pedro_bcurtiswx, yes, i was going to point you to bug 731708 , is that the same you're facing?13:46
ubot2Launchpad bug 731708 in nautilus "nautilus doesn't run, Unique-DBus-WARNING, assertion 'watcher_id > 0' failed" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73170813:46
bcurtiswxpedro_, yes that would be it, thx13:47
pedro_bcurtiswx, you're welcome, please follow up there ;-)13:48
bcurtiswxpedro_, i figured a killall nautilus would help, except it just keeps respwaning13:48
bcurtiswxquite annoying13:48
seb128pedro_, hey, that bug got fixed yesterday13:48
bcurtiswxseb128, is it in the repos yet?13:49
seb128bcurtiswx, yes, since yesterday13:49
seb128bcurtiswx, what issue do you get?13:49
bcurtiswxhrmm, i had this bug last night.  I can't access the machine right now (it's my desktop at home) but nautilus would just hang, heating up my system with CPU usage.  I can't killall nautilus because it respawns, so I did it by terminal and got the same warning as that bug13:50
bcurtiswxit was right after a dist-upgrade from M-->N13:51
seb128could be a different issue than the warning13:52
seb128but without details or a stacktrace not easy to say13:52
bcurtiswxi can see what info i can grab when I get home later this evening GMT-4 (Eastern)13:53
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mterryseb128, OK, I started my CoreDev application page.  If you want to help me along, leave an endorsement!  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mterry/CoreDev14:43
mterryThat goes for anyone else too.  I like all endorsements14:46
seb128mterry, \o/14:46
pittimterry: oh, great! will add my praise as well14:46
pittidobey: are you blocked on the new p-d-e? I can upload today if you need it, but it seemed to be a corner case14:50
dobeypitti: i got an upload into our nightlies ppa to fix it there, but we will need it in 11.04 also at some point soon i suspect, but not super urgent14:51
pittiSweetshark: replied in 71272514:52
pittidobey: you have windows builds there?14:52
pittidobey: we are talking about the ValueError crash when scanning over ctypes imports, right?14:53
dobeypitti: yes because ctypes.wintypes exists on linux, though it fails with the valueerror. which is why this is a problem at all14:54
pittiah, ok14:55
pittidobey: uploaded14:59
dobeypitti: cool, thanks15:00
jibelseb128, there's a bug with a patch proposed upstream that we need in natty for automated testing.15:01
jibelseb128, bug 69065715:01
ubot2Launchpad bug 690657 in gnome-utils "Text Widget under combo box is not exposing accessibility" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69065715:01
jibelseb128, how to proceed to have it included in natty, is subscribing the desktop team ok and enough ?15:02
seb128jibel: ubuntu-sponsors usually15:03
seb128jibel: I noticed it but I was waiting for an upstream review15:03
jibelseb128, okay, I'll wait for a review but target it to natty b1 to not forget it.15:07
Sweetsharkpitti: re replied in 712725. It would be a FFE.15:08
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seb128jibel: I will try to get it in today or tomorrow15:10
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mvopitti: is jockey driving dpkg/python-apt in a way that makes it not write logs to /var/log/apt/term.log ? I am triaging a bunch of package install failures and a lot of nvidia, b43 releated ones have failures but empty logs. any idea about this?15:25
pittimvo: it's basically using apt.Cache()[pkg].markInstall(), and cache.commit()15:28
pittimvo: all the apt code is in jockey/oslib.py, do you see anything wrong with it?15:28
pittimvo: I don't deliberately disable logging15:28
pittimvo: (off to long phone call now)15:29
mvopitti: thanks, I have a look (I have a call now as well). the above should be fine but I will double check15:31
jibelseb128, great! thanks15:34
seb128jibel: yw15:43
seb128mterry, ok, unity doesn't like your indicator-datetime-preferences desktop for some reason15:44
mterryseb128, probably just too awesome for unity15:44
mterryseb128, how doesn't it like it?15:44
seb128mterry, it doesn't match indicator-datetime-preferences to it15:45
seb128like the launcher doesn't get the right title etc15:45
seb128it gives an empty launcher title here with a fuzzy icon15:46
seb128mterry, does it work for you?15:46
seb128mterry, I'm trying indicator-datetime trunk with karl's pending work15:47
mterryseb128, does it show in the applications place?15:47
seb128mterry, yes and it in gnome-panel menus15:48
seb128I've tried running in on a command line, from the indicator or from gnome-panel15:48
mterryseb128, you installed it via a deb, right?15:48
seb128I did bzr merge lp:indicator-datetime in the current packaging vcs and bzr bd that15:49
seb128it's correctly listed in the index15:49
seb128well I should restart my session to be sure I guess15:50
kenvandineuh oh... log session restart15:54
kenvandinehope he isn't busted :)15:55
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bcurtiswxmterry killed seb128 this time, not me :P16:08
* kenvandine runs out for a bit, bbl16:08
seb128ok, restarting was not the best idea, disk check and then gdm upstart issues16:11
seb128mterry, I'm back ;-)16:11
mterryseb128, :)16:11
seb128mterry, still the same after a restart, empty title and fuzzy icon16:11
mterry:(  OK, looking into it16:11
seb128mterry, do you get it as well?16:12
mterryseb128, I have to build trunk, I'm not running it right now16:12
seb128mterry, don't bother16:13
mterryseb128, ?16:14
seb128mterry, it's a cosmetic issue, it can wait today's tarball and tomorrow to be debugged16:14
seb128mterry, I though you had the .desktop installed locally since you worked on it16:15
mterryI did but via a deb, so when I switched debs...16:15
seb128doesn't seem an indicator issue anyway16:15
seb128the .desktop is installed and listed correctly by the places and menus etc16:16
kklimondaseb128: do you have a moment? new glibmm release requires updated mm-common (and it's in universe for now) to build documentation. How should I proceed on gettinng it into main?16:19
seb128kklimonda, the wiki has mir requirements details16:20
seb128you need to file a bug asking for promotion with some details16:20
mterrykklimonda, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements16:21
kklimondathanks. Should I first update it to the new version, and then request MIR?16:23
seb128mterry, ok, I've the feeling it doesn't like the "&" in the Name=16:23
seb128mterry, if I replace it then it works16:24
seb128mterry, sorry for the noise, not your fault16:24
seb128it's DBO's fault16:24
seb128or didrocks's ;-)16:24
seb128didrocks, unity launcher displays and empty title when there is a "&" in the name16:25
seb128indicator-datetime-preferences.desktop:Name=Time & Date16:25
seb128removing the & makes it work16:25
didrocksseb128: already fixed by a kind contributor :)16:25
didrocksnot in trunk though16:25
seb128so now wth is it displaying a blurry icon when there is a 48x48 svg16:26
seb128in fact it's not16:27
seb128mterry, ok, sorry for the noise, everything is ok16:27
seb128or will be when didrocks's merge the contributor patch in trunk ;-)16:27
bcurtiswxseb128, in your GDM upstart, did you see any plymouth errors?16:29
seb128bcurtiswx, no16:30
bcurtiswxseb128, 'more /var/log/syslog | grep plymouth'16:31
seb128no error16:32
bcurtiswxseb128, Ok thx16:32
seb128btw you can "grep plymouth syslog"16:32
seb128it's less to type ;-)16:32
bcurtiswxim too lazy... wait... :P16:32
bcurtiswxi think i had too much fun with pipes and thats why i keep doing that..16:33
bcurtiswxand this is where linux turns away from PG rating to R... totally hit enter before reading that one :-\16:34
dobeypitti: why does new distutils-extra rewuire various python3 bits for build-depends?16:39
pittidobey: because it runs the self tests for both python 2 and 3, and I needed some example libraries to run them against16:39
pittiso I took the smallest ones I could find which had the necessary properties (multiple modules, etc.)16:39
dobeyoh :-/16:40
dobeyguess i will have to disable that for our PPA backport for lucid16:41
mterryseb128, oh, missed your messages.  Yay!  \o/16:45
pittidobey: you basically need to drop all but the first two lines in the override_dh_auto_install: rule in debian/rules, and drop the py3 build depends; then it should be fine16:46
pittidobey: (oh, and drop the p3 package from debian/control, of course)16:46
pittidobey: if you are just needing that one ctypes fix, we can also SRU this16:46
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dobeypitti: don't need an sru. we only need the fix in our nightlies. it is easier to just have the new version in our PPA16:49
pittidobey: ack16:49
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* mterry goes afk, errand17:27
seb128rodrigo_, seems you forget the actual patch on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=644560?17:30
ubot2Gnome bug 644560 in Gal "Can't set an account password" [Normal,Needinfo]17:31
kenvandineseb128, what was the gdm upstart issue?17:34
kenvandinei have a box here that isn't starting gdm at boot... but looks like it is because plymouth is failing17:34
seb128kenvandine, dunno, jhunt is still working it out17:34
seb128kenvandine, no, it's likely the upstart job fault17:35
seb128kenvandine, try using http://launchpadlibrarian.net/66503336/gdm.conf17:35
seb128kenvandine, or downgrade17:35
seb128kenvandine, or wait for the new one to build ;-)17:35
kenvandinei'll try it17:36
kenvandineweird thing is if i boot an older kernel it works17:36
kenvandinebut with the latest kernel, if i drop to a VT and start gdm it works too17:37
kenvandineseems weird kernel versions would make a difference17:37
kenvandine<         if [ "$curr" = S -o "$prev" = unknown ]17:37
kenvandineso maybe it doesn't know the previous one17:38
kenvandineseb128, yup... that fixed it17:40
seb128kenvandine, ;-)17:41
kenvandineright before lunch i was searching for an existing bug on that17:41
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* mterry is back18:23
seb128tedg, is http://paste.ubuntu.com/581238/ known?18:23
seb128tedg, I get it running indicator-datetime in valgrind and restarting unity-panel-service18:24
seb128tedg, is that a libindicator issue?18:24
tedgseb128, Yeah, it would be a libindicator issue.  I think I've seen that trace before, but I could have sworn it was fixed :-/18:25
seb128tedg, still happening in natty18:25
tedgBut yeah, definitely libindicator18:25
seb128tedg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libindicator/+bug/71945718:25
ubot2Launchpad bug 719457 in libindicator "valgrind invalid reads error on unloading" [Low,Fix released]18:25
seb128seems similar18:25
seb128bah, I closed it because it seemed fixed18:26
seb128let's reopened18:26
tedgseb128, See I knew someone fixed it. ;-)18:26
seb128tedg, I'm sure that's what you want, you ignore bug reports until the submitter gets confused and close it himself because there is no activity on the bug ;-)18:27
tedgseb128, SHHH!!! It's a secret strategy.18:27
kenvandinetedg, still can't upload?18:31
tedgkenvandine, No, got chrome... ido is up.  libindicator is on it's way.18:32
kenvandineoh, cool18:32
kenvandinei guess i should have actually clicked on the link you sent18:33
tedgYes, that's generally what they're for ;-)18:33
chrisccoulsonkklimonda, down to half a screen of compiler errors with mongodb now ;)18:35
vishanyone up for sponsoring branch on bug 736250 ? :)18:35
ubot2Launchpad bug 736250 in cheese "Update oldish looking icons in cheese effects" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73625018:35
kklimondachrisccoulson: you rock :)18:35
tedgseb128, So mterry fixed bug 569273 but I'm not sure how to mark the various distro tasks.18:38
ubot2Launchpad bug 569273 in indicator-application "memory leak in gnome-power-manager" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56927318:38
tedgseb128, Also, annoyingly.  It's in libappindicator in Natty, but indicator-application in all the other distro series.18:39
mterrytedg, plus, mine was just the last nail in the coffin (hopefully)18:39
mterrytedg, some of those other tasks were arguably valid in the past but got reopened18:40
tedgmterry, Yeah.  It makes marking the bug correctly difficult.18:40
seb128tedg, set it invalid for the others lines18:57
seb128tedg, we can do an also affect distribution, indicator-application, invalid natty and add stable series if we want18:57
seb128is that an issue in lucid?18:57
tedgseb128, Was libappindicator in Lucid?  If it was, it could have been.19:02
tedgseb128, I think we should definitely backport to Maverick.19:03
tedgseb128, It's literally a 5 character fix :)19:03
seb128tedg, guess not, I think those issues started being raised in 10.1019:03
seb128tedg, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-application19:04
* tedg should probably be more familiar with the exact dates of all of libappindicator as they're blogged about daily.19:07
seb128tedg, it's likely nothing was using it enough in lucid that it was an issue19:08
tedgseb128, Yeah, or nothing was completely replacing the menu everytime like g-p-m19:08
seb128tedg, right19:09
seb128mterry, do you want to sru you leak fix for maverick btw?19:09
seb128mterry, we should probably sru the theme_cb crash one as well19:09
mterryseb128, i can do the leak, sure.  which was the theme_cb?19:11
seb128mterry, ^19:13
mterryso tiny.  I am succinct.  OK.  I can prep an SRU for 10.1019:14
seb128mterry, thanks19:16
mterrytedg, you swear that sinking the ref won't cause problems with anyone?  Or put another way, you don't think any consumers corrected for the leak?19:25
psusiI somehow managed to get my min/max/close buttons back on the right and the system menu on the left.  Is there a gconf key or something that controls this?19:25
seb128mterry, let's get the other fix in and wait a bit to get natty feedbackon the ref thing19:26
tedgmterry, I don't know of anyone that did.  I would have hoped they would have noted it to us...19:26
vishpsusi: /apps/metacity/general/button_layout19:26
vishpsusi: thats in the gconf^19:26
mterryseb128, you mean do the theme_change separately?19:27
seb128mterry, well the theme_change one seems safe and gnome-bt upstream specifically asked if we could fix that in stable since they keep receive crash bug upstream about it19:27
seb128mterry, it's harder to say if the ref one will impact on applications, so better to wait a bit and see if any issue is raised in natty before backporting it19:28
mterryseb128, there is a safer fix we could apply just to g-p-m for 10.1019:29
mterryother apps would leak, but I don't think any of them are nearly as bad19:29
seb128mterry, if you want to do that go for it19:29
psusivish: ahh, thanks... I kept looking for it in nautilus keys since it somehow got screwed up when I installed a new nautilius package...19:29
seb128it seems to be the only real complain19:29
seb128so should be enough for a non lts version19:30
* mvo grumbles about the second compiz freeze of the day19:30
mvoor unity19:30
seb128mvo, it's frozen? or it's crashing and apport freezes it while it's getting infos?19:31
mvogood question, unity --reset killed the whole X19:32
didrocksmvo: screen freeze? there is a known Xorg freeze AFAIK19:32
didrocksbut no compiz19:32
seb128didrocks, yeah, blame it on the x guys19:32
didrockstotally :)19:33
pittichrisccoulson: hey, how are you?19:35
chrisccoulsonpitti - good thanks, how are you?19:35
pittichrisccoulson: I wondered, did you hear about cases where flash videos in mozilla/chromium/etc. turned "red" recently?19:35
pittichrisccoulson: I'm great, thanks!19:35
seb128chrisccoulson, run away, pitti saying hello in the evening is a trap, he will give you work!19:35
chrisccoulsonpitti - yeah, i've seen it discussed a little bit. i can't recreate it, but i think someone already forwarded a bug to adobe19:36
pittichrisccoulson: I seem to get this with the second video I play in firefox, until I purge the cookies; a friend of mine also noticed that after a maverick update, so I blame the flash plugin19:36
kklimondahmm..  any idea what's happening: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/unity-2d-places: undefined symbol: _ZN12Unity2dDebug15installHandlersEv ?19:36
pittichrisccoulson: no, I don't want to give you actual work :)19:36
chrisccoulsonpitti - https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-632719:36
pittichrisccoulson: I just wondered whether you happened to know a better workaround than "disable cookies"19:36
pittichrisccoulson: ah, thanks muchly for the pointer19:36
kenvandineseb128, can you get libfolks out of binNEW?19:36
kenvandineit's holding up empathy19:37
kenvandineseb128, please :)19:37
seb128didrocks, pitti: ^19:37
seb128I don't have access from that box19:37
seb128I'm just doing IRC right now from this box ;-)19:37
chrisccoulsonpitti - the last comment suggests that downgrading flash fixes it19:37
pittikenvandine: yep, looking19:37
seb128pitti, thanks19:37
pittiseb128: oh, poor man's proxy?19:37
kenvandinepitti, thx19:37
didrocksseb128: you mean, you are just slacking? :p19:38
pittiseb128: or rather, rich man's? (buying a second laptop instead of installing bip?) :-P19:38
seb128kenvandine, btw sjoerd pointed early that we should get farsight synced on debian, it seems we don't install some files in there19:38
kklimondaok, my bad19:38
kenvandineseb128, yeah, he told me you were doing it19:38
seb128pitti, rather having an old one which is used for testing and other things ;-)19:38
seb128pitti, lol19:38
seb128kenvandine, well "synced" is merged we have a recommends diff there19:39
didrocksok, time for dinner and evening, see you tomorrow!19:39
kenvandineseb128, ok19:40
seb128kenvandine, well I failed to do it today so if you want feel free, otherwise I will try tomorrow19:40
seb128'night didrocks19:40
didrocksbonne nuit seb128 ;)19:40
kenvandinei should be able to do it19:40
kenvandinei think tedg is almost done abusing me for today :)19:40
* tedg creates a libindicated quickly19:41
* kenvandine hides 19:42
mxpxpodis this the correct place to ask about things in the gnome 3 ppa?19:43
pittikenvandine: libfolks nudged19:43
kenvandinepitti, thx!19:43
cdbsmxpxpod: fire away!19:44
mxpxpodI'm running gnome-shell from the gnome 3 ppa and the gtk theme looks wrong19:45
mxpxpodalso, when I run a program like gnome-control-center from the command line, it tells me it can't find the named theme Adwaita19:45
mxpxpodI figure that the two are related19:46
cdbsmxpxpod: you need to have adwaita installed, looks like it isn't in the PPA yet19:46
mxpxpodreally? I thought it was part of gnome-themes-standard19:46
cdbsmxpxpod: wait for someone to add it there first19:46
mxpxpodI know that there's a /usr/share/themes/Adwaita on my box19:47
cdbsoh wait, there IS gnome-themes in the PPA19:47
cdbsI dunno then, rodrigo_ ? ^^19:47
mxpxpodI noticed kenvandine mentioned something about libfolks and empathy, and I'm guessing that will answer my question about the empathy package19:49
mxpxpodhowever, it seems that gucharmap still depends on libgtk3.0-0 and it's creating a conflict in apt-get dist-upgrade19:50
seb128kklimonda, check with Kaleo maybe about the symbols error19:54
seb128or try ogra19:54
bdrungdid someone already complained about http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntu-natty-adds-control-centre-entry-to-session-menu/ ?19:55
bdrungis there a bug report against this change?19:55
bdrungthis change is similar to putting "shutdown" under "start"19:55
bdrungseb128: in which package was this change made?19:56
kklimondaseb128: figured it out, a perfect pebkac case :)19:57
seb128bdrung, indicator-session19:57
seb128bdrung, bug #72782319:58
ubot2Launchpad bug 727823 in ayatana-design "Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add "System Settings" link to the session indicator menu" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72782319:58
chrisccoulsonlooks like all you natty users are now using firefox 4 final ;)19:58
seb128chrisccoulson, no change between rc and stable?19:58
chrisccoulsonseb128 - there's no plan for another RC now, which means that what we have now is what will be released on 22nd19:58
bdrungseb128: should i comment that bug or open a new one?19:59
seb128bdrung, open a new one and comment to give the number20:00
seb128bdrung, btw if you read the bug the indicator used was already being argued there20:02
chrisccoulsonkklimonda, what are you building to give you that error btw?20:03
chrisccoulsonactually, you said in your message ;)20:04
mterryseb128, bug 708188 and bug 569273 are ready for SRU20:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 708188 in libappindicator "softwares using libappindicator crash with SIGSEGV in theme_changed_cb()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70818820:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 569273 in indicator-application "memory leak in gnome-power-manager" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56927320:06
seb128mterry, well done ;-)20:07
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mxpxpodhow do I keep nautilus from running when gnome starts with gnome-shell?20:23
pittigood night everyone20:34
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seb128tedg, did you roll indicator-dt yet?21:42
tedgseb128, Yup21:43
seb128hum, ok21:43
seb128tedg, you can clean the g-s-t requirements from the configure and the remaining include21:43
seb128it has been switched to the use g-s-d21:43
seb128well that will be for the next update21:44
tedgseb128, Are you saying no oobs for me?21:44
seb128it works fine without those, I built trunk with those dropped today21:44
seb128tedg, no, not for you ;-)21:45
tedgseb128, done21:48
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seb128tedg, hum, bug #72915022:22
ubot2Launchpad bug 729150 in libappindicator "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72915022:22
seb128which is mterry?22:22
bcurtiswxkenvandine, are you still here?22:23
tedgseb128, We're discussing the fix on the merge request22:23
seb128tedg, ok, just got that22:23
seb128is bug #708118 fixed or not?22:23
ubot2Launchpad bug 708118 in libappindicator "nm-applet crashes with SIGSEGV in icon_name_hash()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70811822:24
seb128cyphermox, ^22:24
seb128it didn't get recent duplicates22:24
seb128nor comment22:24
cyphermoxI think that's because it has all the bugs at the moment when the retracers didn't work correctly two weeks ago22:25
cyphermoxit's not fixed, we should talk about how to set use-fallback on the GtkImage used by the GtkStatusIcon created by libappindicator22:25
seb128cyphermox, what do you mean about the retracers?22:26
cyphermoxnevermind, I was talking about something else22:26
cyphermoxyeah, if I try to duplicate it I'd get an error22:26
seb128oh you think it's the same issue than the other one?22:27
cyphermoxyes, same issue as the bug number in the last comment: 72915022:27
cyphermoxseb128, have you looked at the merge request too?22:28
seb128it's but it's not clear to me what the issue is or why that fixes it22:29
seb128it's -> yes22:31
cyphermoxseb128, afaict while the icon gets created the gicon is unref'ed before the icon is done -- or while icons are being changed due to an update of the cache22:31
cyphermoxusing icon names bypass this completely22:32
seb128seems a bug in gtk then?22:32
cyphermoxI also found that not unrefing themed_icon doesn't cause this crash22:32
seb128but that would create some leaks22:32
cyphermoxI thought keeping it as a member of whatever structure appindicators have an unref'ing just before creating a new one would work, but I haven't tested it22:34
cyphermoxseb128, also, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61480022:34
ubot2Gnome bug 614800 in gtk "Crash in find_image_offset()" [Critical,Unconfirmed]22:34
seb128where did ted go?22:35
seb128cyphermox, yeah, I'm just trying to see how we get it fixed for this cycle22:35
seb128seems there is a gtk issue that you try to workaround there22:35
cyphermoxseb128, I tend to agree with milanbv 's analysis though that it's really in libappindicator more than gtk... although gtk should be able to sustain the cache being rebuilt anytime22:37
seb128is that crash only happening when the cache is being rebuilt?22:38
cyphermoxsee my last comment in the gnome bug, that's how I was able to reproduce it consistently22:39
seb128is nm reconnecting on upgrade?22:39
seb128it seems weird that users run that often in nm reconnecting while the icon cache is rebuilt22:39
cyphermoxit doesn't reconnect but icons are being updated regularly for wifi signal strength22:40
cyphermoxseb128, note this only crashes when using the fallback more to the notification area22:41
seb128cyphermox, but how can the gicon been unrefed while in use?22:41
cyphermoxseb128, don't know. my guess is that the icon/theme change signal sent when the cache is updated is received from both the appindicator stuff and the underlying gtkstatusicon, and they both fight to update the icon22:42
seb128cyphermox, you are sure it's the same issue?22:45
seb128cyphermox, seems the new bug is due to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libappindicator/trunk/revision/19522:45
seb128it's the fix for bug #70818822:45
ubot2Launchpad bug 708188 in libappindicator "softwares using libappindicator crash with SIGSEGV in theme_changed_cb()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70818822:45
seb128cyphermox, the bugs started the day after the commit landed in natty22:46
cyphermoxseb128, it's the same stack trace.22:47
cyphermoxunless you see something different that I missed?22:47
kenvandineseb128, indicator-datetime uploaded... lets hope the bugs stop coming in :)22:47
cyphermoxseb128, I also looked at it with Q-FUNK to confirmed it came from the same set of circumstances22:48
seb128cyphermox, ok, so those users are not running unity nor GNOME with indicators?22:49
cyphermox(Q-FUNK reported a duplicate of bug 72915022:49
ubot2Launchpad bug 729150 in libappindicator "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72915022:49
seb128interesting to see that we get that number of users using the fallback there22:49
seb128or do they run other desktops, i;e xfce or something?22:50
cyphermoxseb128, I don't think xfce is affected, micahg told me something about blacklisting libs22:50
cyphermoxbut these users use whatever DE with a notification area, not indicators22:50
seb128well you can have both22:51
seb128ie that's what classic GNOME has22:52
cyphermoxwell, yes22:52
cyphermoxbut if indicator-application is running, it will catch nm-applet. AFAICT then nm-applet doesn't crash22:52
cyphermoxthough I could have just not been able to reproduce it in that case22:52
seb128bug #72541722:53
ubot2Launchpad bug 725417 in notify-osd "notify-osd crashed with signal 7 in find_image_offset()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72541722:53
seb128seems a similar crash but notify-osd doesn't use libappindicator22:53
cyphermoxsure looks the same22:53
cyphermoxfair enough, I'm convinced it's a gtk issue... but I have no clue how to fix it22:54
cyphermoxoh wait no, that's not the same thing22:54
cyphermoxnotice how the icon_name is set there?22:55
cyphermoxit also seems to be a notification generated by nm-applet :'(22:57
seb128cyphermox, right22:59
seb128ok, not sure what is causing the issue either bug seems something that be handled for natty22:59
seb128the update you suggest could work but it would still be nice to understand the issue23:05
seb128it's frustrating to not having an explanation ;-)23:05
cyphermoxit's also frustrating that this is the last reported crasher for nm-applet ;)23:06
seb128seems a common one though23:07
cyphermoxyeah... scary how many users seems to have it... and seem to use classic gnome23:07
seb128would be interesting to know what desktop those users are running, especially if that's GNOME but without the indicator applet configured23:07
cyphermoxI know for sure that's the case for Q-FUNK23:07
seb128it seems weird that they drop the indicator-applet23:07
cyphermoxI should ask sebner too23:07
seb128he dropped the indicator? do you know why?23:07
cyphermox"hardcore gnome2 user"23:08
seb128it seemed that users got used to it nowadays are are mostly fine with it23:08
cyphermoxwell I see the main bug for 729150 is running unity-2d23:09
seb128that's a misleading tag23:09
seb128it means unity-2d is installed23:09
seb128none has the running-unity tag23:10
seb128well in the recent bug duplicates23:11
seb128so it's not likely an issue under unity23:11
seb128which would confirm that it's only in fallbacking code23:11
cyphermoxI'm fairly confident it's when not running unity or indicator applets23:11
seb128still surprising that GNOME classic users still drop the indicator-applet nowadays23:11
cyphermoxseb128, could be others though -- xubuntu, and all23:12
seb128if you run into some maybe ask them why ;-)23:12
cyphermoxany idea how this could be broken in gtk?23:12
seb128no, I fail to understand the issue still23:13
cyphermoxthen no wonder I also don't understand it :)23:13
seb128the gicon can't really go away under the code feet in the middle of a call23:13
seb128but I'm not really familiar with that code and some other people have debugged it for a while so I don't expect I would find something obvious23:14
cyphermoxI couldn't find a place where the gicon was ref'ed by the gtkstatusicon or gtkiconcache code23:14
cyphermoxbut my understanding of gtk is still pretty limited23:15
seb128let's see if we can get someone in dx helping there, I will ask them tomorrow23:15
seb128hum, I'm was checking fix commited bugs on launchpad23:15
seb128the alsa-drivers source has like 15% of those23:16
seb128do they stack years of fix or just never clean the bugs that are fixed? ;-)23:16
cyphermoxeven if I'm silent in the channel, I'm there around 7h30am to 8am my time23:16
seb128was that for here or a channel error? ;-)23:17
seb128(just curious seemed out of context)23:17
cyphermoxno it was for here23:17
cyphermoxyou said you'd ask dx tomorrow23:17
cyphermoxlet me know early ;)23:17
seb128desrt, there?23:18
seb128robert_ancell, howdy23:20
robert_ancellseb128, hello23:20
seb128robert_ancell, how are you?23:20
robert_ancellgood, what are you doing here at this time :)23:20
seb128robert_ancell, don't worry I don't have work for you (yet), just saying hello ;-)23:20
seb128robert_ancell, checking also how much work you have and if you want some desktopish bugs assigned when I run into so or if you are set23:21
seb128so -> some23:21
robert_ancellseb128, I'm mostly busy, but send me some suggestions - if they're in my knowledge set I'll grab them23:22
seb128robert_ancell, well, tv is boring and I'm sitting in front of it with the laptop on and I had IRC running because I was following some discussions ;-)23:22
seb128robert_ancell, I've nothing specific, the only one I can think of right now is get gnome-display-properties to not display it's hint in the screen corner when not focussed which seems a frequent complain of people doing presentation on beamers and such23:23
robert_ancellseb128, sounds interesting, bug number?23:24
seb128robert_ancell, bug #403840 seems close enough23:26
ubot2Launchpad bug 403840 in gnome-control-center "Display Preferences Monitor identification should be optional" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40384023:26
seb128but I might open a new one, I know it's something people often complain about at conferences or UDS and that was raised as hundredpapercut issue23:26
robert_ancellshould be easy, that's a fun looking bug :)23:28
seb128robert_ancell, great! ;-)23:30
seb128robert_ancell, oh, there also a gdm one23:30
robert_ancellyeah, busy *mumble mumble*23:30
seb128since we know how you love gdm right ;-)23:30
seb128robert_ancell, well, bug #696038 if you feel like taking it23:31
ubot2Launchpad bug 696038 in gdm "system user appears in login list of users" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69603823:31
robert_ancellyeah, we do need to fix that one.  I'll take a look23:31
seb128robert_ancell, it shouldn't be one of those bugs where you need to fight with the code layers etc23:31
seb128so it might be okish ;-)23:32
robert_ancelldon't count on it23:32
robert_ancellit will be something stupid23:32
seb128ok, famous last word right?23:32
robert_ancellit's probably buried deep in console kit somewhere23:32
seb128should know better than commenting on gdm bugs being easy ;-)23:32
seb128robert_ancell, well, ck-history list those but that might be ok since they really logged in23:33
seb128robert_ancell, it's the uid filtering gdm is doing that seems to not work, or not apply to ck lists23:33
seb128I don't think we should aim at making ck not list those23:33
seb128robert_ancell, I will sync libwnck323:34
seb128robert_ancell, just saw the #debian-gnome mention23:34
robert_ancellah, thanks :)23:34
seb128robert_ancell, the empty line is annoying me on versions ;-)23:34
robert_ancellheh, that's why I put it there!23:34
seb128robert_ancell, bug #61080223:35
seb128ok found it23:35
ubot2Launchpad bug 610802 in hundredpapercuts "'Mirror Screens' often seen on projectors during presentations." [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61080223:35
robert_ancellseb128, what do you think about this - when we get near final freeze the packages that are synced with debian but not up to date we make -ubuntu versions of them, then sync them for Oneiric?23:35
seb128robert_ancell, I've assigned it to you23:35
seb128robert_ancell, seems fine to me, though I don't think we will have much to update this cycle since we are mostly uptodate on GNOME 2.3223:36
seb128but for GNOME3 packages sure23:36
seb128robert_ancell, ignore the email about bug #216144 I wrote your name in the wrong tag23:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 216144 in gnome-control-center "gnome-display-properties should allow the primary screen to be chosen" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21614423:37
seb128if someone cares about anjuta it seems it might need a rebuilt with a newer vala to fix a crash on start23:50
seb128upstream thinks it's could be due to vala abi breaks23:50
seb128bug #722079 as well23:50
ubot2Launchpad bug 722079 in libgda4 "When installing Anjuta in Natty Alpha libsqlite3.so is missing" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72207923:50
seb128ted: you won bug #726005 btw23:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 726005 in indicator-applet "indicator-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__POINTER()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72600523:51
seb128ups, he's not there23:51
seb128ok, enough computer for today23:51
seb128'night everybody23:52
psusiis this channel logged?  someone told me what gconf key controlled whether the min/max/close buttons are on the right or left earlier, and I forgot what it was...23:56

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