| locodir-user | I would like to learn how to program in the GNU/Linux environment any pointers? | 03:15 |
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| YoBoY | good morning | 06:55 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:46 |
| Ronnie | mornin | 09:28 |
| cjohnston | mornin | 10:03 |
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| dholbach | mhall119, cjohnston: did you have a chat with Bilal about the HoF? | 10:15 |
| mhall119 | not yet, is he done with his exams? | 13:06 |
| nigelb | I think yes | 13:09 |
| nigelb | I saw something of that extent today some time | 13:09 |
| locodir-user | hi how do you do | 13:47 |
| Ronnie | We have a new locodir-user record, 16 seconds after asking, (s)he left the room | 13:51 |
| YoBoY | it's me making a simple test | 14:14 |
| locodir-test-use | The alert message when we want to quit the page is short and can have more informations in it in relation of the time to stay to have an answer :) | 14:17 |
| czajkowski | cjohnston: mhall119 what do yiu think https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/736208 | 16:16 |
| czajkowski | is that possible | 16:16 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 736208 in loco-directory "Team name in the URL for an event would be great (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 16:16 |
| mhall119 | czajkowski: I think it's valid, something I've considered in the past | 16:17 |
| czajkowski | popey: ^^^ | 16:18 |
| popey | :) | 16:19 |
| czajkowski | popey: me too the descriptive bug please :) | 16:20 |
| czajkowski | see not a 1 liner | 16:20 |
| * popey looks for a full stop | 16:22 | |
| YoBoY | somthing like "loco.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-uk/2011/03/19/rugby_meet_up" ? | 16:23 |
| * czajkowski hands popey the pedantic book | 16:23 | |
| popey | one line :) | 16:23 |
| czajkowski | YoBoY: yes, something that has Ubuntu-uk in it would be great | 16:23 |
| popey | $teamname, $eventname | 16:23 |
| popey | not sure about $yyyy $mm $dd tbh | 16:24 |
| czajkowski | team name /event name would be nice alright | 16:24 |
| YoBoY | the date can help for referencing | 16:25 |
| mhall119 | okay, now you're asking for a lot | 16:26 |
| YoBoY | but yes, it's just an idea | 16:26 |
| mhall119 | I was just going to do /events/ubuntu-uk/$$$/detail | 16:26 |
| * YoBoY hugs mhall119 | 16:26 | |
| mhall119 | and by "I" I mean probably Ronnie | 16:27 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: yes event/teamname/detail is good | 16:30 |
| czajkowski | pleae | 16:30 |
| czajkowski | please | 16:30 |
| * czajkowski hugs mhall119 | 16:30 | |
| YoBoY | btw why the /detail ? can't we just have http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/615 ? it's not enought information for the default view ? | 16:32 |
| mhall119 | YoBoY: I think we currently use /detail | 16:34 |
| mhall119 | don't we? | 16:34 |
| mhall119 | we do | 16:35 |
| mhall119 | so I was going with the "Don't make more changes than is necessary" | 16:35 |
| YoBoY | yes, I was just thinking if django is like some php frameworks I used, it should have a great rewrite url engine and a default view parameter to simplify urls and not display unnecessary parameters | 16:38 |
| Ronnie | czajkowski: what if an event consitst of 2 teams? | 17:01 |
| YoBoY | this is possible, an event registered with 2 teams ? | 17:06 |
| Ronnie | no, but the database is ready | 17:21 |
| Ronnie | i created a function which returns the first team | 17:21 |
| Ronnie | should be OK for now | 17:21 |
| Ronnie | so the bug is fixed now, but ill add the same for venues and meetings | 17:22 |
| Ronnie | czajkowski: ^ | 17:22 |
| czajkowski | ronnie only one team xan create the event uness its a global event | 17:23 |
| czajkowski | bbiab | 17:24 |
| Ronnie | czajkowski: yes, its a limitation of the interface, the backend code is different. but because the limitation of the interface i can pick the first team without function loss | 17:25 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: first team would be fine, we'll still have the event id in the URL, so technically would could pull it up whatever the team name part says | 17:30 |
| mhall119 | s/would/we/ | 17:30 |
| YoBoY | Ronnie: you want to make something like in launchpad and the subscribe function where you can subscribe a team where you are in ? (for exemple https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+subscribe ) | 17:34 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: venues don't have a team association | 17:37 |
| Ronnie | YoBoY: there are other thing i want to do first (multi team page for example) | 17:38 |
| mhall119 | so I don't think you'll be able to do the same for them | 17:38 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: your right | 17:38 |
| Ronnie | i nituced that when i wanted to change | 17:38 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: could we use country for that? | 17:38 |
| mhall119 | we should add a "Primary team" or something to venues, it'll help us filter the list too | 17:39 |
| YoBoY | Ronnie: that was just a question ;) | 17:39 |
| YoBoY | +1 for the venues, country should be better http://loco.ubuntu.com/venue/country/ID... | 17:40 |
| Ronnie | Almost done | 17:44 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: we need to so something to speed up import-live-data | 17:46 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: yeah, 90% of the users we probably don't need | 17:46 |
| Ronnie | it takes very long now, and will be even longer in the future | 17:46 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: it's not to bad loading into postgres, it's sqlite on ext4 that is slow | 17:47 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: your rigth, but its a pain for developers | 17:47 |
| mhall119 | true | 17:48 |
| Ronnie | could we make somehow a daily sqlite3 clone? | 17:48 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: event 337 has no team attached (database error) | 17:50 |
| mhall119 | not good | 17:50 |
| Ronnie | i build a check so the pages dont crash | 17:56 |
| Ronnie | but its not good indeed | 17:56 |
| mhall119 | what pages crashed? | 17:59 |
| Ronnie | the event list | 18:00 |
| Ronnie | can somebody write a regular expression for countryies (space allowed?) | 18:01 |
| mhall119 | loco.ubuntu.com/events/ works for me | 18:01 |
| Ronnie | yes, but not with the new code, which require team.lp_name in the url | 18:01 |
| mhall119 | ok | 18:03 |
| mhall119 | I guess just default it to using 'teams' if no team is attached | 18:03 |
| Ronnie | but a tean cannot be 'null' in the database setup | 18:04 |
| Ronnie | its a database inconsistency | 18:04 |
| mhall119 | well it's a manytomany between team and event, so it will allow not having any | 18:05 |
| Ronnie | oh, its manytomany indeed | 18:06 |
| Ronnie | ill see what i can do | 18:06 |
| Ronnie | somebody on the regex? | 18:06 |
| mhall119 | what do you need the regex for? | 18:06 |
| Ronnie | the county filter in the urls.py | 18:06 |
| mhall119 | matching a country in the url? | 18:07 |
| mhall119 | ok | 18:07 |
| mhall119 | either [\w\s]+ or [^\/]+ | 18:08 |
| mhall119 | I think will work | 18:08 |
| mhall119 | if this is going to cause too many problems or complexity, just tell czajkowski that she can't have it | 18:09 |
| Ronnie | its almost finished ;) | 18:10 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: make sure the old-style URLs will still work for lookups | 18:11 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: any suggestions on that one? | 18:11 |
| Ronnie | didnt take that in mind | 18:11 |
| mhall119 | just leave the old urlconf line | 18:11 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: but then we need to write 2 functions? (one which 'wrap' the old function ?) | 18:12 |
| mhall119 | you shouldn't need to, no | 18:13 |
| mhall119 | you can point 2 urlconfs to the same view | 18:13 |
| Ronnie | but one has more parameters than the other, wouldn't that cause problems? | 18:13 |
| mhall119 | the view doesn't need any extra parameters | 18:14 |
| mhall119 | the view can ignore the team name, all it needs is the event id | 18:14 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: eh she just filed it as a bug, wasn't looking for it to be done today. | 18:14 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: eh she was quiet happy with it being a wish list | 18:14 |
| mhall119 | czajkowski: I meant if it was going to put a bunch of complex hacks all over LD in order to make it work | 18:15 |
| czajkowski | :) | 18:15 |
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| Ronnie | mhall119: done https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/736208-url-name/+merge/53683 | 18:54 |
| mhall119 | dang you're fast | 18:57 |
| Ronnie | its about the quality, not the speed. but i hope the first is good too ;) | 18:58 |
| Ronnie | Yoboy https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/723375 | 19:53 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 723375 in loco-directory "Problem with the menus and some translations (affects: 2) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] | 19:53 |
| YoBoY | updating my local branch | 19:55 |
| YoBoY | Ronnie: do I need to do some database update ? | 19:56 |
| Ronnie | not that im aware of, but an "./manage.py migrate" is always safe | 19:56 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: any idea where I'd find the mail archive of the annoucement of the meeting feature on the LD ? | 20:02 |
| Ronnie | cjohnston: do you know if this merged fix works: https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/728766 , if yes, the status can go to "Fix Committed" | 20:02 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 728766 in loco-directory "Crash when running lpupdate (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Confirmed] | 20:02 |
| mhall119 | czajkowski: good question, let me see if I can find it | 20:03 |
| YoBoY | the top menu is really great, I like it (don't like the order :p ) | 20:03 |
| YoBoY | Ronnie: I haven't anymore the space between the menus | 20:04 |
| YoBoY | thanks | 20:04 |
| Ronnie | great, bug solved | 20:05 |
| YoBoY | Ronnie: don't sure if it's 100% solved, you deleted the login item, but what if the translations break that again ? ^^" | 20:07 |
| mhall119 | czajkowski: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2011-February/005226.html | 20:07 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: thanks | 20:08 |
| Ronnie | YoBoY: in the future probably loco-council and about-loco will be merged | 20:08 |
| YoBoY | great idea :p | 20:08 |
| Ronnie | till then, keep the translation strings not too long | 20:08 |
| YoBoY | I'll try | 20:08 |
| Ronnie | i know its difficult in french | 20:09 |
| Ronnie | the dutch version is also longer than the english one | 20:09 |
| mhall119 | you guys can use a non-exact translation if it's shorter and gets the same meaning across | 20:10 |
| YoBoY | not really difficult, the translators don't really use the loco directory, so it's not well translated at the moment, most of the string can be shortened | 20:11 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: were not in trouble here, if we were, i know some items which could be shorter here | 20:11 |
| mhall119 | ok | 20:16 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: there is a list of merge request waiting, do you need information on these, or didn't you have the time to review? | 20:18 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: probably lack of time on my part | 20:18 |
| Ronnie | thats ok, we stay volunteers ;) | 20:18 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: cjohnston Ronnie evening, meet airurando | 20:55 |
| mhall119 | good evening airurando | 20:55 |
| Ronnie | he airurando | 20:55 |
| czajkowski | we;re just chatting in our meeting and the meeting feature came up | 20:55 |
| Ronnie | welcome | 20:55 |
| czajkowski | once the meeting is over | 20:58 |
| czajkowski | airurando: has some thoughts | 20:59 |
| mhall119 | and code? | 21:00 |
| jono | effie_jayx, btw, apologies for the continued delay, my video camera has gone missing | 21:01 |
| airurando | evening everyone | 21:02 |
| jono | but I think it is at a friends house who is checking for it | 21:02 |
| airurando | mhall119 no code unfortunately | 21:02 |
| czajkowski | airurando: what are the comments, maybe it doesnt need code | 21:02 |
| airurando | for the meeting events could we have a tab for past meetings on the team page just as we do for past events? | 21:03 |
| airurando | when populating the agenda could we type in proposer as not all agenda item proposers for our meetings are registered | 21:04 |
| Ronnie | airurando: at the moment, the space does not allow it to put it there | 21:04 |
| Ronnie | there is a new design for the team page http://ubuntuone.com/p/eF8/ maybe it fits there | 21:05 |
| airurando | Ronnie thats nice. | 21:06 |
| czajkowski | moylan: ello | 21:06 |
| Ronnie | airurando: dut even in the new design there is not space reserved for past events/meetings | 21:07 |
| Ronnie | do you think the link should be on the teams page | 21:07 |
| moylan | czajkowski:hi, looking forward to been in dublin where you can procure a decent sozzie sambo? | 21:07 |
| Ronnie | or could it on the teams events / meetings overveiw page? | 21:07 |
| mhall119 | airurando: if you click "All Meetings", that page has a "Past Meetings" | 21:07 |
| czajkowski | moylan: first thing I do after the meeting on Monday! | 21:07 |
| airurando | mhall119 Ah. I didn't see that. That is exactly what I wanted. | 21:09 |
| airurando | Ronnie. mhall119 has the answer. | 21:10 |
| airurando | now onto my second query | 21:10 |
| czajkowski | see not code :) | 21:10 |
| airurando | any thoughts on manual entry for agenda item proposer? | 21:10 |
| effie_jayx | jono: that's terrible | 21:10 |
| airurando | czajkowski yo are absolutely right. | 21:11 |
| effie_jayx | jono: hope you find it... the severed fifth stuff is cool. a video like that would be good ;) | 21:11 |
| effie_jayx | quality is ok I mean. | 21:11 |
| effie_jayx | jono: you should try to get into That Metal Show... :P | 21:11 |
| * effie_jayx runs | 21:11 | |
| czajkowski | airurando: I fully believe having teams coming in here and discuss things makes things a lot easier for everyone all round | 21:11 |
| Ronnie | airurando: i didt understand your second question | 21:12 |
| airurando | Ronnie OK | 21:13 |
| Ronnie | could you formulate it another way? | 21:14 |
| airurando | When I tried to backfill the agenda items from our wiki page for the january LoCo Dir meeting some of the proposers were not available for selection on the list. | 21:14 |
| czajkowski | ahhh can you only select certain people from a list | 21:15 |
| Ronnie | airurando: that means these people didnt register on loco.ubuntu.com i think | 21:15 |
| airurando | proposer = owner | 21:15 |
| airurando | yes Ronnie | 21:16 |
| Ronnie | we could make a normal input field for it, but i think its not desired | 21:16 |
| airurando | but I would like the flexibility to be there for those folks | 21:17 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: ^ what are your toughts? | 21:17 |
| YoBoY | it's in the bug 714040 | 21:17 |
| czajkowski | airurando: to help us understand | 21:17 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 714040 in loco-directory "missing Team Members (affects: 1) (heat: 7)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714040 | 21:17 |
| czajkowski | is this for people who are not registed to be part of the loco but want to add stuff to the meeting | 21:18 |
| airurando | at the moment the LoCo Dir is more restrictive in this regard than the wiki system | 21:18 |
| airurando | czajkowski I'm not sure of the ins and outs of registrations | 21:19 |
| airurando | but infoturtle and imgarysmith can't log an agenda item in the loCo Dir while the can on the wiki. | 21:19 |
| czajkowski | are they a member of the Irish LoCo | 21:20 |
| airurando | no idea | 21:20 |
| airurando | don't know if they are registered on the website only or launchpad or whatever | 21:21 |
| czajkowski | airurando he is https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ie/+members#active | 21:21 |
| airurando | czajkowski both are | 21:22 |
| airurando | thanks for that | 21:23 |
| airurando | so whats required? | 21:23 |
| Ronnie | logging in once to loco.ubuntu.com | 21:23 |
| czajkowski | Ronnie: but surely they are if they are trying to add meeting agenda to it, they are logging in... | 21:23 |
| Ronnie | indeed | 21:24 |
| airurando | Ronnie we are experiencing some resistance to this. | 21:24 |
| Ronnie | i can imagine | 21:24 |
| airurando | to clarify | 21:24 |
| Ronnie | for now a normal textbox could do | 21:24 |
| Ronnie | but im not aware of the future plans | 21:24 |
| airurando | they may never have tried to add to the loco dir | 21:24 |
| airurando | this could just be a problem with the transition | 21:24 |
| airurando | if we switch from the wiki to the LoCo Dir completely then that should fix it. | 21:25 |
| Ronnie | that should fix it, but i dont know if thats the desired behaviour | 21:26 |
| airurando | the problem became apparent when I tried to transcribe the january agenda from the wiki | 21:26 |
| Ronnie | there are a lot of people working on loco's that are not registred on launchpad or loco.ubuntu.com | 21:28 |
| Ronnie | in our loco we encourage people to register, but its not a requirement for 'belonging to our loco team' | 21:29 |
| airurando | Ronnie: would a comment section field be possible? | 21:32 |
| Ronnie | comments on agenda items? | 21:32 |
| airurando | if a registered member populates the agenda for A.N Other then the owner name could be manually inserted. | 21:33 |
| Ronnie | there is an description field isnt there? | 21:34 |
| airurando | yes | 21:35 |
| Ronnie | or do you want an additional field for such things? | 21:35 |
| airurando | Ronnie: No, perhaps the description field will do. | 21:36 |
| Ronnie | Again no coding :D | 21:37 |
| airurando | :) | 21:37 |
| Ronnie | airurando: if you have additional questions / ideas | 21:37 |
| Ronnie | feel free to ask them (even when they do need coding) | 21:37 |
| YoBoY | can't we just enter a launchpad OpenID URL to make the link to a non-yet-registered user ? | 21:37 |
| Ronnie | openid url, no. LP username maybe, but thats gonna be hard | 21:38 |
| airurando | Ronnie, mhall119: thanks so much for the help. | 21:38 |
| YoBoY | Ronnie: yes launchpad url or just the username :p | 21:39 |
| Ronnie | i know it can cause a lot of openid troubles if we want to implement that | 21:40 |
| Ronnie | but it could be a very nice feature | 21:40 |
| Ronnie | who are going to the UDS-O ? | 21:44 |
| YoBoY | don't decided yet ^^" | 21:45 |
| YoBoY | didn't | 21:47 |
| YoBoY | you are going Ronnie ? | 21:48 |
| Ronnie | not decided to apply for sponsorship. never been to an uds | 21:48 |
| YoBoY | I was at the uds-m last year, really great :) | 21:53 |
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