[03:15] I would like to learn how to program in the GNU/Linux environment any pointers? [06:55] good morning [07:46] good morning [09:28] mornin [10:03] mornin === daker_ is now known as daker [10:15] mhall119, cjohnston: did you have a chat with Bilal about the HoF? [13:06] not yet, is he done with his exams? [13:09] I think yes [13:09] I saw something of that extent today some time [13:47] hi how do you do [13:51] We have a new locodir-user record, 16 seconds after asking, (s)he left the room [14:14] it's me making a simple test [14:17] The alert message when we want to quit the page is short and can have more informations in it in relation of the time to stay to have an answer :) [16:16] cjohnston: mhall119 what do yiu think https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/736208 [16:16] is that possible [16:16] Launchpad bug 736208 in loco-directory "Team name in the URL for an event would be great (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [16:17] czajkowski: I think it's valid, something I've considered in the past [16:18] popey: ^^^ [16:19] :) [16:20] popey: me too the descriptive bug please :) [16:20] see not a 1 liner [16:22] * popey looks for a full stop [16:23] somthing like "loco.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-uk/2011/03/19/rugby_meet_up" ? [16:23] * czajkowski hands popey the pedantic book [16:23] one line :) [16:23] YoBoY: yes, something that has Ubuntu-uk in it would be great [16:23] $teamname, $eventname [16:24] not sure about $yyyy $mm $dd tbh [16:24] team name /event name would be nice alright [16:25] the date can help for referencing [16:26] okay, now you're asking for a lot [16:26] but yes, it's just an idea [16:26] I was just going to do /events/ubuntu-uk/$$$/detail [16:26] * YoBoY hugs mhall119 [16:27] and by "I" I mean probably Ronnie [16:30] mhall119: yes event/teamname/detail is good [16:30] pleae [16:30] please [16:30] * czajkowski hugs mhall119 [16:32] btw why the /detail ? can't we just have http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/615 ? it's not enought information for the default view ? [16:34] YoBoY: I think we currently use /detail [16:34] don't we? [16:35] we do [16:35] so I was going with the "Don't make more changes than is necessary" [16:38] yes, I was just thinking if django is like some php frameworks I used, it should have a great rewrite url engine and a default view parameter to simplify urls and not display unnecessary parameters [17:01] czajkowski: what if an event consitst of 2 teams? [17:06] this is possible, an event registered with 2 teams ? [17:21] no, but the database is ready [17:21] i created a function which returns the first team [17:21] should be OK for now [17:22] so the bug is fixed now, but ill add the same for venues and meetings [17:22] czajkowski: ^ [17:23] ronnie only one team xan create the event uness its a global event [17:24] bbiab [17:25] czajkowski: yes, its a limitation of the interface, the backend code is different. but because the limitation of the interface i can pick the first team without function loss [17:30] Ronnie: first team would be fine, we'll still have the event id in the URL, so technically would could pull it up whatever the team name part says [17:30] s/would/we/ [17:34] Ronnie: you want to make something like in launchpad and the subscribe function where you can subscribe a team where you are in ? (for exemple https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+subscribe ) [17:37] Ronnie: venues don't have a team association [17:38] YoBoY: there are other thing i want to do first (multi team page for example) [17:38] so I don't think you'll be able to do the same for them [17:38] mhall119: your right [17:38] i nituced that when i wanted to change [17:38] mhall119: could we use country for that? [17:39] we should add a "Primary team" or something to venues, it'll help us filter the list too [17:39] Ronnie: that was just a question ;) [17:40] +1 for the venues, country should be better http://loco.ubuntu.com/venue/country/ID... [17:44] Almost done [17:46] mhall119: we need to so something to speed up import-live-data [17:46] Ronnie: yeah, 90% of the users we probably don't need [17:46] it takes very long now, and will be even longer in the future [17:47] Ronnie: it's not to bad loading into postgres, it's sqlite on ext4 that is slow [17:47] mhall119: your rigth, but its a pain for developers [17:48] true [17:48] could we make somehow a daily sqlite3 clone? [17:50] mhall119: event 337 has no team attached (database error) [17:50] not good [17:56] i build a check so the pages dont crash [17:56] but its not good indeed [17:59] what pages crashed? [18:00] the event list [18:01] can somebody write a regular expression for countryies (space allowed?) [18:01] loco.ubuntu.com/events/ works for me [18:01] yes, but not with the new code, which require team.lp_name in the url [18:03] ok [18:03] I guess just default it to using 'teams' if no team is attached [18:04] but a tean cannot be 'null' in the database setup [18:04] its a database inconsistency [18:05] well it's a manytomany between team and event, so it will allow not having any [18:06] oh, its manytomany indeed [18:06] ill see what i can do [18:06] somebody on the regex? [18:06] what do you need the regex for? [18:06] the county filter in the urls.py [18:07] matching a country in the url? [18:07] ok [18:08] either [\w\s]+ or [^\/]+ [18:08] I think will work [18:09] if this is going to cause too many problems or complexity, just tell czajkowski that she can't have it [18:10] its almost finished ;) [18:11] Ronnie: make sure the old-style URLs will still work for lookups [18:11] mhall119: any suggestions on that one? [18:11] didnt take that in mind [18:11] just leave the old urlconf line [18:12] mhall119: but then we need to write 2 functions? (one which 'wrap' the old function ?) [18:13] you shouldn't need to, no [18:13] you can point 2 urlconfs to the same view [18:13] but one has more parameters than the other, wouldn't that cause problems? [18:14] the view doesn't need any extra parameters [18:14] the view can ignore the team name, all it needs is the event id [18:14] mhall119: eh she just filed it as a bug, wasn't looking for it to be done today. [18:14] mhall119: eh she was quiet happy with it being a wish list [18:15] czajkowski: I meant if it was going to put a bunch of complex hacks all over LD in order to make it work [18:15] :) === daker is now known as daker_ [18:54] mhall119: done https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/736208-url-name/+merge/53683 [18:57] dang you're fast [18:58] its about the quality, not the speed. but i hope the first is good too ;) [19:53] Yoboy https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/723375 [19:53] Launchpad bug 723375 in loco-directory "Problem with the menus and some translations (affects: 2) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] [19:55] updating my local branch [19:56] Ronnie: do I need to do some database update ? [19:56] not that im aware of, but an "./manage.py migrate" is always safe [20:02] mhall119: any idea where I'd find the mail archive of the annoucement of the meeting feature on the LD ? [20:02] cjohnston: do you know if this merged fix works: https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/728766 , if yes, the status can go to "Fix Committed" [20:02] Launchpad bug 728766 in loco-directory "Crash when running lpupdate (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Confirmed] [20:03] czajkowski: good question, let me see if I can find it [20:03] the top menu is really great, I like it (don't like the order :p ) [20:04] Ronnie: I haven't anymore the space between the menus [20:04] thanks [20:05] great, bug solved [20:07] Ronnie: don't sure if it's 100% solved, you deleted the login item, but what if the translations break that again ? ^^" [20:07] czajkowski: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2011-February/005226.html [20:08] mhall119: thanks [20:08] YoBoY: in the future probably loco-council and about-loco will be merged [20:08] great idea :p [20:08] till then, keep the translation strings not too long [20:08] I'll try [20:09] i know its difficult in french [20:09] the dutch version is also longer than the english one [20:10] you guys can use a non-exact translation if it's shorter and gets the same meaning across [20:11] not really difficult, the translators don't really use the loco directory, so it's not well translated at the moment, most of the string can be shortened [20:11] mhall119: were not in trouble here, if we were, i know some items which could be shorter here [20:16] ok [20:18] mhall119: there is a list of merge request waiting, do you need information on these, or didn't you have the time to review? [20:18] Ronnie: probably lack of time on my part [20:18] thats ok, we stay volunteers ;) [20:55] mhall119: cjohnston Ronnie evening, meet airurando [20:55] good evening airurando [20:55] he airurando [20:55] we;re just chatting in our meeting and the meeting feature came up [20:55] welcome [20:58] once the meeting is over [20:59] airurando: has some thoughts [21:00] and code? [21:01] effie_jayx, btw, apologies for the continued delay, my video camera has gone missing [21:02] evening everyone [21:02] but I think it is at a friends house who is checking for it [21:02] mhall119 no code unfortunately [21:02] airurando: what are the comments, maybe it doesnt need code [21:03] for the meeting events could we have a tab for past meetings on the team page just as we do for past events? [21:04] when populating the agenda could we type in proposer as not all agenda item proposers for our meetings are registered [21:04] airurando: at the moment, the space does not allow it to put it there [21:05] there is a new design for the team page http://ubuntuone.com/p/eF8/ maybe it fits there [21:06] Ronnie thats nice. [21:06] moylan: ello [21:07] airurando: dut even in the new design there is not space reserved for past events/meetings [21:07] do you think the link should be on the teams page [21:07] czajkowski:hi, looking forward to been in dublin where you can procure a decent sozzie sambo? [21:07] or could it on the teams events / meetings overveiw page? [21:07] airurando: if you click "All Meetings", that page has a "Past Meetings" [21:07] moylan: first thing I do after the meeting on Monday! [21:09] mhall119 Ah. I didn't see that. That is exactly what I wanted. [21:10] Ronnie. mhall119 has the answer. [21:10] now onto my second query [21:10] see not code :) [21:10] any thoughts on manual entry for agenda item proposer? [21:10] jono: that's terrible [21:11] czajkowski yo are absolutely right. [21:11] jono: hope you find it... the severed fifth stuff is cool. a video like that would be good ;) [21:11] quality is ok I mean. [21:11] jono: you should try to get into That Metal Show... :P [21:11] * effie_jayx runs [21:11] airurando: I fully believe having teams coming in here and discuss things makes things a lot easier for everyone all round [21:12] airurando: i didt understand your second question [21:13] Ronnie OK [21:14] could you formulate it another way? [21:14] When I tried to backfill the agenda items from our wiki page for the january LoCo Dir meeting some of the proposers were not available for selection on the list. [21:15] ahhh can you only select certain people from a list [21:15] airurando: that means these people didnt register on loco.ubuntu.com i think [21:15] proposer = owner [21:16] yes Ronnie [21:16] we could make a normal input field for it, but i think its not desired [21:17] but I would like the flexibility to be there for those folks [21:17] mhall119: ^ what are your toughts? [21:17] it's in the bug 714040 [21:17] airurando: to help us understand [21:17] Launchpad bug 714040 in loco-directory "missing Team Members (affects: 1) (heat: 7)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714040 [21:18] is this for people who are not registed to be part of the loco but want to add stuff to the meeting [21:18] at the moment the LoCo Dir is more restrictive in this regard than the wiki system [21:19] czajkowski I'm not sure of the ins and outs of registrations [21:19] but infoturtle and imgarysmith can't log an agenda item in the loCo Dir while the can on the wiki. [21:20] are they a member of the Irish LoCo [21:20] no idea [21:21] don't know if they are registered on the website only or launchpad or whatever [21:21] airurando he is https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ie/+members#active [21:22] czajkowski both are [21:23] thanks for that [21:23] so whats required? [21:23] logging in once to loco.ubuntu.com [21:23] Ronnie: but surely they are if they are trying to add meeting agenda to it, they are logging in... [21:24] indeed [21:24] Ronnie we are experiencing some resistance to this. [21:24] i can imagine [21:24] to clarify [21:24] for now a normal textbox could do [21:24] but im not aware of the future plans [21:24] they may never have tried to add to the loco dir [21:24] this could just be a problem with the transition [21:25] if we switch from the wiki to the LoCo Dir completely then that should fix it. [21:26] that should fix it, but i dont know if thats the desired behaviour [21:26] the problem became apparent when I tried to transcribe the january agenda from the wiki [21:28] there are a lot of people working on loco's that are not registred on launchpad or loco.ubuntu.com [21:29] in our loco we encourage people to register, but its not a requirement for 'belonging to our loco team' [21:32] Ronnie: would a comment section field be possible? [21:32] comments on agenda items? [21:33] if a registered member populates the agenda for A.N Other then the owner name could be manually inserted. [21:34] there is an description field isnt there? [21:35] yes [21:35] or do you want an additional field for such things? [21:36] Ronnie: No, perhaps the description field will do. [21:37] Again no coding :D [21:37] :) [21:37] airurando: if you have additional questions / ideas [21:37] feel free to ask them (even when they do need coding) [21:37] can't we just enter a launchpad OpenID URL to make the link to a non-yet-registered user ? [21:38] openid url, no. LP username maybe, but thats gonna be hard [21:38] Ronnie, mhall119: thanks so much for the help. [21:39] Ronnie: yes launchpad url or just the username :p [21:40] i know it can cause a lot of openid troubles if we want to implement that [21:40] but it could be a very nice feature [21:44] who are going to the UDS-O ? [21:45] don't decided yet ^^" [21:47] didn't [21:48] you are going Ronnie ? [21:48] not decided to apply for sponsorship. never been to an uds [21:53] I was at the uds-m last year, really great :)