| uvirtbot | New bug: #735830 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735830 | 00:12 |
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| twb | I'm translating /etc/bind to /etc/nsd3. | 00:53 |
| twb | What's the nsd equivalent of "auth-nxdomain no"? Do I even need it? | 00:53 |
| twb | In this named snippet: http://paste.debian.net/110811/ | 01:41 |
| twb | Is "notify yes" applying to the master, or the (presumably downstream) zonedit nameservers? | 01:42 |
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| ^Mike | How can I run SMART tests on a HDD? | 04:15 |
| twb | apt-get install smartmontools | 04:17 |
| twb | smartctl <something to say "start a short test"> | 04:17 |
| twb | smartctl <something to say "show self-test results"> | 04:18 |
| twb | RTFM; I can't remember what the options are | 04:18 |
| Datz | something like smartcl -A /dev/sda1 I thought | 04:19 |
| Datz | er | 04:19 |
| twb | IIRC -A reports all info | 04:19 |
| Datz | smartctl | 04:19 |
| twb | smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda | 04:20 |
| twb | smartctl -t short # or long, if you have a couple hours | 04:20 |
| Datz | -A looks lit it reports all smart attributes | 04:21 |
| twb | You may also need -d ata for SATA disks, if you're on an old system. | 04:21 |
| twb | Datz: right, but most of those are misleadingly scary | 04:21 |
| Datz | inaccurate I've noticed for some things | 04:21 |
| Datz | but right, not tests | 04:22 |
| ^Mike | thanks | 04:25 |
| ^Mike | bah | 04:26 |
| ^Mike | "Device does not support SMART" | 04:26 |
| ^Mike | Well, if you can make any sense of these logs, I'd appreciate the help: http://sprunge.us/bBGh?txt | 04:28 |
| twb | ^Mike: maybe you're behind a RAID card | 04:30 |
| uvirtbot | twb: Error: "Mike:" is not a valid command. | 04:30 |
| ^Mike | I doubt it, it's just a cheap external HDD connected to the machine by USB | 04:30 |
| twb | ^Mike: "unable to read inode block" I reckon you've made the filesystem slightly larger than the partition -- did you dd it from one to another? | 04:30 |
| uvirtbot | twb: Error: "Mike:" is not a valid command. | 04:30 |
| twb | Also your name is stupid :-/ | 04:31 |
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| twb | \bMike\b: hmm, you're getting it for several partitions, so more likely is just that either the copy is hosed or the disk is dying | 04:31 |
| \bMike\b | no, but I could well have messed up the partition/filesystem sizes anyways | 04:31 |
| twb | Oh, and you can't do SMART to a USB enclosure -- if you take the disk out and put it in a SATA slot, then SMART will work | 04:32 |
| \bMike\b | oh, ok | 04:32 |
| \bMike\b | huh, that disk also reports "Partition table entries are not in disk order" | 04:32 |
| `3Shades | Anyone any good at configuring virutal networks? I am having problems remoting into my virtual machine. I can ssh but not remote in. | 04:50 |
| `3Shades | I am running ubuntu server 10.10 and I have VM's set up and I would like to be able to remote into those as well from outside my network. I have a standard linksys wireless router. | 04:52 |
| `3Shades | I have googled to no avail, or at least I'm not understanding what I'm doing wrong. | 04:53 |
| twb | What does "remote in" mean | 04:54 |
| `3Shades | vnc | 04:54 |
| twb | Are you running a VNC server in the VM? | 04:55 |
| `3Shades | I was using remote desktop so... | 04:55 |
| `3Shades | I set up remote desktop | 04:55 |
| twb | "remote desktop" often means RDP, not VNC. Make sure you which you mean | 04:55 |
| `3Shades | I installed gnome gui on the server then set up remote desktop | 04:55 |
| `3Shades | I went into admin and clicked the allow remote desktop connections... | 04:55 |
| twb | `3Shades: last time I looked that will display a prompt on the VM's local display saying "accept connection? [Yes|no]" | 04:56 |
| `3Shades | allow users to take control of this computer | 04:56 |
| `3Shades | yes I clicked accpet connections | 04:56 |
| `3Shades | well first I"m just tring to get into the host | 04:56 |
| twb | I don't know | 04:57 |
| `3Shades | See it's weird, because i can ssh in. | 04:57 |
| twb | If you were using a simple X VNC server, I could help. I'm not familiar with this GNOME stuff | 04:57 |
| `3Shades | my dhcp table is set to have the mac address go to an ip address yet when I look up the address you should remote into it says some weird address, but either address I try I cannot remote in. | 04:58 |
| `3Shades | I know it has something to do with the VM bridge and settings in my linkxys router, but I am lost. | 04:58 |
| `3Shades | what do you recommend I install then | 04:59 |
| `3Shades | just vncserver | 04:59 |
| `3Shades | lol | 04:59 |
| twb | xvncserver4 IIRC | 04:59 |
| `3Shades | can I apt-get that | 04:59 |
| twb | Or just tunnel X over your ssh connection | 04:59 |
| twb | tightvncserver, on my system, appears to be a simple headless VNC X server | 05:00 |
| twb | What you have is probably exporting an existing display over VNC, which is more stupider | 05:00 |
| `3Shades | tightvncserver is already installed | 05:01 |
| `3Shades | It seems stuck at security type requested | 05:05 |
| twb | Oh yeah, IIRC the vinagre/vino stuff in GNOME implements some non-standard encryption option | 05:06 |
| twb | So if you checked "encrypt connection" or whatever, then you can't connect to it except from the GNOME VNC client | 05:07 |
| twb | And your client will probably just hang showing a black screen | 05:07 |
| `3Shades | vnc works thanks.. | 05:15 |
| `3Shades | still need to figure out how to route these VM's to a port though | 05:16 |
| `3Shades | I'll wait to ask until I have another 10 hours on it lol | 05:16 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #735950 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "LOCK TABLE <table> WRITE; does not obtain an exclusive table lock " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735950 | 08:06 |
| acegrimm | bonjour | 08:20 |
| xperia_ | hello to all. i have a strange problem with memcached. it give me allways this error here => DataMemCache Error, Purge Old File from Cache Dir | 08:27 |
| xperia_ | where is this Cache Dir of MemCached ? i have searched it but could not find it | 08:28 |
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| twb | xperia_: caches usually go in /var/cache, occasionally /var/lib | 08:39 |
| whoaski | hello all | 08:40 |
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| whoaski | I just installed ubuntu server w/ apache2, mysql, and rails. tring to configure a developmentserver to bounce code off of | 08:42 |
| whoaski | I'm new to this and I want to know where i can get information navigating the command line | 08:43 |
| whoaski | I have the ubuntu server guide | 08:44 |
| whoaski | it's all installed I just don't know enough to get into it to configure it | 08:44 |
| xperia_ | twb okay thanks will just look at it. /var/cache i checked allready but could not find anything related to memcached | 08:45 |
| xperia_ | twb hmm strange even in /var/lib i can not find memcached ! any other help | 08:49 |
| twb | xperia_: read the config file? | 08:51 |
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| xperia_ | not till yet i will look at it just right now | 08:51 |
| fakhir | I seem to have a IO bottleneck issue but i dont quite understand what it is telling me. -> http://pastebin.com/Vz1btnbn | 09:00 |
| _ruben | fakhir: i assume sdb is a single sata disk? | 09:20 |
| fakhir | _ruben, yes | 09:21 |
| fakhir | what i am seeing is high load average but low CPU usage on a MySQL server. | 09:21 |
| _ruben | then having ~40 random IOs per second is pretty consistent with the 50% utilization | 09:22 |
| _ruben | a sata disk can do about 100 of 'em per second | 09:22 |
| _ruben | and a (busy) (my)sql server tends to do a fair bit random IOs | 09:22 |
| fakhir | any idea why i might be seeing what i am seeing if io is fine? | 09:25 |
| _ruben | how high is the load average? | 09:31 |
| fakhir | _ruben, always above 1 typically ~1.5 . CPU percentage is nearly always 0. | 09:33 |
| _ruben | iowait is only 6% btw .. or does it go up a lot? | 09:44 |
| _ruben | and a load of 1 on a 8way system isn't really that much of problem | 09:45 |
| _ruben | 1 core is "occupied" while the other 7 are idle (on average) | 09:45 |
| fakhir | ohh i see | 09:46 |
| Daviey | twb, Interesting that you prefer to maintain your own netfilter rules. | 09:56 |
| Daviey | Why is that? | 09:56 |
| twb | Daviey: you mean with respect to blacklisting? | 09:57 |
| twb | It's a static ruleset | 09:57 |
| twb | http://paste.debian.net/110844/ is the active ingredient | 09:57 |
| Daviey | twb, I have a call now, but in an hour or so - i'd like to talk to you further about it. | 09:58 |
| twb | It'll have to be tomorrow, or trentbuck@gmail.com -- I'm going home shortly | 09:58 |
| soren | twb: I've never worked out what the difference is between --state and --ctstate. | 09:59 |
| soren | I guess I never tried to work it out either. :-/ | 09:59 |
| twb | soren: ctstate is "better" | 09:59 |
| Daviey | twb, ok, thanks! | 09:59 |
| twb | I *strongly* recommend anyone writing netfilter rules read http://jengelh.medozas.de/documents/Perfect_Ruleset.pdf | 10:00 |
| twb | ...which is cited by #netfilter | 10:00 |
| soren | twb: Yeah, the good mr. Engelhardt knows what he's talking about. | 10:07 |
| soren | twb: The only thing in that doc that I didn't know was the ctstate thing. I wonder why the --state thing isn't just replaced entirely by --ctstate. | 10:07 |
| twb | Probably hysteria | 10:08 |
| soren | Yeah, there's a lot of that going around. | 10:08 |
| * soren is excited about ipset being included in 2.6.39, by the way. | 10:09 | |
| twb | Eh, DKMS xtables makes that a non-issue | 10:10 |
| twb | I need xtables for something else anyway, I forget what | 10:11 |
| twb | Maybe just -j CHAOS | 10:11 |
| soren | twb: There's a dkms variant? | 10:12 |
| twb | It's new in Debian | 10:13 |
| soren | twb: Or are you thinking of the module-assistant thing? | 10:13 |
| twb | Maybe you suckers don't have it yet | 10:13 |
| soren | twb: Oh, shiny. | 10:13 |
| * soren files sync request | 10:14 | |
| soren | done | 10:15 |
| soren | \o/ | 10:15 |
| soren | twb: Thanks for the hint. | 10:15 |
| twb | np | 10:15 |
| * soren smells an openstack patch brewing | 10:15 | |
| twb | Meanwhile flipping nsd3 definitely *will not* DTRT WRT upstart | 10:16 |
| soren | twb: I didn't fully understand your problem with that. | 10:16 |
| twb | one moment | 10:18 |
| twb | soren: http://paste.debian.net/110845/ | 10:23 |
| soren | twb: It gets a new PID when you HUP it? That sounds *incredibly* broken. | 10:25 |
| twb | YES | 10:25 |
| twb | soren: it *is* smart enough to update its own pidfile | 10:26 |
| twb | But even so | 10:26 |
| twb | If you don't specify an allow-transfers {} list, does bind9 default to allowing AXFRs from 0/0 (i.e. everyone)? | 10:47 |
| twb | It sure looks like it, which explains a lot | 10:49 |
| twb | Fuck, I missed tea-time | 11:03 |
| twb | Looks like I'm having ramen for supper again | 11:03 |
| soren | "ramen"? | 11:04 |
| soren | Ah, noodle stuff. | 11:05 |
| whoaski | good morning | 11:08 |
| ikonia | twb: easy on the language please | 11:10 |
| twb | Sorry. | 11:12 |
| azizLIGHTS | how do i run dropbox as a service? this guide is outdated because start-stop-daemon doesnot exist on 10.04? http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall/UbuntuStartup | 11:16 |
| azizLIGHTS | /etc/init.d/dropbox: 60: start-stop-daemon: not found | 11:17 |
| joschi | azizLIGHTS: it does. it's part of the 'dpkg' package | 11:21 |
| joschi | azizLIGHTS: you just need either a proper $PATH variable set or use the absolute path to the binary | 11:21 |
| azizLIGHTS | oh hm | 11:22 |
| azizLIGHTS | do i have to undo step 2 listed in the guide to edit /etc/init.d/dropbox ? | 11:22 |
| azizLIGHTS | specifically this line: sudo update-rc.d dropbox defaults | 11:22 |
| joschi | azizLIGHTS: why would you? | 11:23 |
| joschi | azizLIGHTS: the "init script" is also lacking a proper shebang | 11:23 |
| azizLIGHTS | i dont know im new to linux? | 11:23 |
| azizLIGHTS | what is that | 11:23 |
| azizLIGHTS | what is the proper shebang i mean | 11:24 |
| joschi | azizLIGHTS: the first line of a script should contain a pointer to the interpreter which will run the script, e. g. #!/bin/sh to use /bin/sh | 11:24 |
| azizLIGHTS | oh | 11:24 |
| joschi | azizLIGHTS: you could also easily use the upstart-script from the dropbox wiki | 11:24 |
| azizLIGHTS | ugh | 11:24 |
| azizLIGHTS | so this is wrong? | 11:25 |
| azizLIGHTS | joschi: ok well putting full path /sbin/start-stop-daemon, and adding #!/bin/sh to first line, now the script works with service dropbox start, confirmed it with ./dropbox.py status | 11:30 |
| Wise_ | I'm trying to create a disk image of my ubuntu install, with clonezilla... but it's telling me that the partitiont able in the disk is illegal/invalid, not supported by parted, with the error "can't have overlapping partitions", anyone know how I deal with this? | 11:32 |
| Wise_ | err, partition table* -_- | 11:32 |
| azizLIGHTS | ok i edited the dropbox wiki for it, ty for input joschi | 11:37 |
| MarkAng | How can I see and change the port used by my Ubuntu server to access the internet? | 12:15 |
| MarkAng | We're planning on using it to create and distribute images to computers using PXE. | 12:16 |
| MarkAng | But it isn't able to reach the ubuntu archives, like the ones specified in the sources.list file. | 12:17 |
| joschi | MarkAng: that'll be on destination port 80/tcp (http). the source port is random | 12:18 |
| MarkAng | The reason I'm asking is that we're operating under a company-wide network that has restrictions on certain ports. For instance, the port used by uTorrent is blocked. Is it possible to instruct my server to use or not use a certain port? | 12:19 |
| MarkAng | Anyone? | 12:21 |
| _ruben | if they're blocking based on source port, hit 'em with a cluebat, a lot | 12:22 |
| _ruben | if they're blocking port 80, you should probably use the proxy they provide | 12:22 |
| MarkAng | They're not blocking port 80, as I'm able to access web pages. \ | 12:23 |
| shauno | do you have a specific error from trying to reach the archives? | 12:24 |
| _ruben | what does your sources.list look like then? those tend to list http urls | 12:24 |
| MarkAng | They do. But whenever we issue a command that should use the repositories inside to update and/or install programs (in this case, a GUI for the text-based server) | 12:25 |
| MarkAng | t says it cannot reach the destination files. | 12:26 |
| MarkAng | Cannot reach/cannot find. | 12:26 |
| pmatulis | "a GUI for the text-based server"? | 12:26 |
| MarkAng | Yes. It's command-line as you know, and we know there are GUI skins available. | 12:27 |
| MarkAng | We try to install one to make life a little easier for us, but so far no good. | 12:28 |
| * Pici scratches his head | 12:28 | |
| Pici | Which package are you trying to install? | 12:28 |
| MarkAng | Hang on, let me check | 12:28 |
| MarkAng | .. | 12:28 |
| pmatulis | MarkAng: you most probably need to configure a proxy for apt-get | 12:28 |
| MarkAng | We use either of the following commands, but neither one works: | 12:28 |
| MarkAng | sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | 12:28 |
| MarkAng | sudo aptitude install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop | 12:29 |
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| MarkAng | Both commands should fetch a desktop-like environment and overlay it over the command-line. | 12:31 |
| MarkAng | But like said before, they don't work. | 12:31 |
| MarkAng | Guys? | 12:33 |
| pmatulis | MarkAng: well. is your company using a proxy or not? | 12:34 |
| MarkAng | I think they are, yes. Im an IT intern, so I'm not sure what it is. | 12:34 |
| pmatulis | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting%20up%20apt-get%20to%20use%20a%20http-proxy | 12:34 |
| Caribou | you would need a statement like "Acquire::http::proxy "{proxy URL}"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf file | 12:37 |
| MarkAng | It's a large organisation, spanning multiple cities and with hundreds of schools. The only persons that could tell me what the proxy is are out of reach. | 12:44 |
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| * _ruben puts a sticker MarkAng's server: Warranty void if desktop packages are installed | 12:46 | |
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| Caribou | MarkAng: don't you have a web browser somewhere that would be configured with the same proxy ? | 12:52 |
| MarkAng | I just asked an admin that returned to the office, and we have no proxy. | 12:59 |
| pmatulis | MarkAng: confirm that your server can reach the internet in general? | 13:00 |
| Caribou | you might want to try 'wget http://www.google.com' to see if you can hit the Internet | 13:01 |
| pmatulis | Caribou: are you dumming down my comments or do you not see what i'm writing? | 13:03 |
| Pici | w3m is installed by default I believe. | 13:04 |
| Caribou | no, I'm just adding a suggestion to your comment : he could confirm that he can reach the internet by doing that. Sorry if it seems rude | 13:04 |
| pmatulis | Caribou: alright | 13:05 |
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| RoAkSoAx | morning all | 13:28 |
| SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: howdy | 13:30 |
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| RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: how's it going man, up early today huh? | 13:31 |
| RapidTraffic | Webmasters, you interested in some HQ, 24h ip unique, content and geotargeted traffic? | 13:37 |
| SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: always.. the baby knows just when to wake me up so I can't go back to sleep :p | 13:39 |
| RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: look the bright side.. you can now say you wake up earlier than everybody else her ein the US >P | 13:43 |
| RoAkSoAx | (everybody else on the team) | 13:43 |
| zul | SpamapS: its genetic ;) | 13:50 |
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| medberry | Caribou, howdy | 14:04 |
| * Caribou waves back | 14:05 | |
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| yann2 | hello! what is the most appropriate package to provide the command "mail" - mailutils? | 14:39 |
| yann2 | there is also bsd-mailx... | 14:41 |
| hallyn | i think i usually install mailutils | 14:41 |
| hallyn | dunno why. works, though. | 14:42 |
| soren | I used to use mailx. | 14:42 |
| genii-around | yann2: It used to be something like bsd-mailutils but I think just the mailutils now | 14:42 |
| soren | In acient times, at least. | 14:42 |
| soren | For the last decade, I've used mutt, though. | 14:42 |
| soren | ..but if I needed "mail", I'd use mailx. No particular reason. | 14:42 |
| yann2 | soren, so used I, but http://pastealacon.com/27001 | 14:42 |
| soren | yann2: bsd-mailx == mailx, IIRC. | 14:43 |
| patdk-wk | well, mailx == rh mail, and most other peoples mail command | 14:43 |
| yann2 | ok, I ll go for that | 14:44 |
| yann2 | thanks | 14:44 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #736149 in bind9 (main) "Ubuntu 10.10 host command ignores all conf files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/736149 | 14:51 |
| bricas | I set up some logrotate config files for my web server logs (monthly rotation), it's been running well over the last 6 months -- except for some reason it decided to rotate things yesterday (15th). Anyone else experience this? Any hints as to how I might diagnose why? | 15:05 |
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| Daviey | bricas, Depends on the rotate rule.... Did it rotate on filesize, rather than date? | 15:18 |
| bricas | Daviey: http://nopaste.snit.ch/37851 # changed real domain to example.com for the paste, but everything else is straight copy+paste. | 15:20 |
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| Daviey | bricas, how odd... Nothing obvious is jumping out at me. | 15:24 |
| bricas | Daviey: yeah, i didn't think my config was off -- like i said, it's been running well for the last 6 months. on the 1st of each month, it seems to fire. | 15:25 |
| bricas | Daviey: there's no obvious place that would log something like "logrotate running .. rotating log $foo because of $bar" ? | 15:25 |
| Daviey | not really.. | 15:26 |
| bricas | of course not :) | 15:27 |
| * patdk-wk teachs bricas to use symlinks :) | 15:48 | |
| bricas | patdk-wk: ...? rather than a copy of the log, perhaps? :) | 15:50 |
| patdk-wk | ya :) | 15:50 |
| bricas | patdk-wk: i only did a copy because i was afraid someone was going to mess that file up, honestly. paranoid am i. :) | 15:51 |
| hallyn | Daviey: if you'd like to chat sometime about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-server, please ping me. | 15:58 |
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| RoAkSoAx | hallyn: hallyn include me on your conversation ^^ | 16:00 |
| Daviey | hallyn / RoAkSoAx: Yes! That would be wonderful.. I'm so pleased you are both enthusiastic about that one. :) | 16:04 |
| RoAkSoAx | Daviey: :) | 16:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #736205 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: подпроцесс установлен сценарий post-installation возвратил код ошибки 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/736205 | 16:16 |
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| SpamapS | http://wiki.spamaps.org/ | 17:34 |
| patdk-wk | 1.7sec page load time :( | 17:40 |
| jiboumans | soren, ttx, are you guys likely to head the celery way for messaging? http://wiki.openstack.org/UseCeleryAsQueueManager | 17:43 |
| * RoAkSoAx goes out for lunch | 17:52 | |
| SpamapS | patdk-wk: no surprise when your mysql db is on a t1.micro ;) | 18:17 |
| patdk-wk | SpamapS, actually, it's more of an issue of only using 1 dns name for the server :) | 18:25 |
| patdk-wk | 500ms per request, and they are getting delayed :) | 18:25 |
| SpamapS | so its not 1 dns name, but that you didn't have the dns name cached | 18:30 |
| SpamapS | my resolver responds in 50 - 100 ms once its cached.. | 18:31 |
| SpamapS | your browser shouldn't be requesting it multiple times | 18:31 |
| _ruben | hm, a dig +trace wiki.spamaps.org doesn't go beyond the .org servers | 18:35 |
| zul | jiboumans: probably not but check on #openstack | 18:39 |
| jiboumans | zul: will do | 18:39 |
| hallyn | kirkland: around ? | 18:48 |
| hallyn | kirkland: the vgabios package's links file is still sending links to /usr/share/kvm. is tehre a reason for that? or can i fix that to /usr/share/qemu? | 18:49 |
| hallyn | kirkland: bc otherwise if you isntall vgabios first and then qemu-kvm, then qemu-kvm doesn't find vgabios | 18:49 |
| kirkland | hallyn: howdy | 18:50 |
| kirkland | hallyn: please put it in /usr/share/qemu | 18:51 |
| orudie | what is the minimum ram required for ubuntu server 64 bit ? | 19:05 |
| genii-around | orudie: I have a box here with 192Mb it runs on | 19:06 |
| cloakable | I've seen a minimal install use 32Mb | 19:07 |
| orudie | so 64 bit is recommended ? | 19:07 |
| genii-around | if your cpu is 64 bit | 19:08 |
| _ruben | 128MB seems to be the documented minimum | 19:08 |
| kirkland | hallyn: you've been on a bug triaging tear :-) | 19:51 |
| kirkland | hallyn: my bug-mail inbox is *full* :-) | 19:51 |
| kirkland | hallyn: also, i see the vgabios merge proposal ... don't you have upload rights to vgabios? | 19:53 |
| kirkland | hallyn: or do you just want a sanity check? | 19:53 |
| geekbri | question, is there something lightweight that can be installed if i only want to do outgoing mail from my server and dont care about incoming mail? | 19:58 |
| SpamapS | geekbri: smail might be what you're looking for | 20:02 |
| geekbri | SpamapS: thanks | 20:05 |
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| jsemar | I need to set up an smtp server to act as a relay for my ec2 instances, can one of you guys point me to a decent tutorial for that? | 20:16 |
| cloakable | apt-get install postfix | 20:18 |
| cloakable | Follow directions. | 20:18 |
| jsemar | thanks cloakable | 20:19 |
| jsemar | thats awesome | 20:19 |
| cloakable | jsemar: ubuntu is pretty easy to use :) | 20:19 |
| jsemar | yeah i know, but your answer is useless, obviously i can install postfix, but i need for the ec2 instance to have its postfix .cnf file send mail to my postfix installation on probably linode | 20:20 |
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| jsemar | so theres authentication, and all sorts of things besides 'sudo apt-get install postfix' | 20:21 |
| cloakable | By default ubuntu postfix uses system accounts. You want smarthosting. | 20:22 |
| _ruben | well, you didn't mention authentication in the first place | 20:22 |
| cloakable | Also, does your linode have a static ip? Use that for authentication. | 20:23 |
| _ruben | no experience with ec2, but if the ips are static, you can just use those as restrictions | 20:23 |
| cloakable | yea | 20:23 |
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| jsemar | you wouldnt recommend using sasl/smpt auth | 20:29 |
| _ruben | depends on the scenario | 20:32 |
| geekbri | damnit, is there anyway to find out why another mail server is refusing your connection... I know i must be missing something that is causing it to make me marked as spam and refusing my connection but they just say error 550 connection refused | 20:40 |
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| _ruben | contact its postmaster | 20:41 |
| Patrickdk | heh, ip's for ec2 are static per instance | 20:46 |
| Patrickdk | so if you use ebs fs's, and stop/start, ip will change | 20:47 |
| Patrickdk | kind of like a cable modem :) | 20:48 |
| Patrickdk | as long as it doesn't go down, your likely to have the same ip forever | 20:48 |
| Patrickdk | but no guarrentee :) | 20:48 |
| geekbri | well yeah that i know | 20:54 |
| geekbri | but i have an elastic IP assigned to the instnace | 20:54 |
| SpamapS | jsemar: given that your instances will be ephemeral, you'll probably want to use sasl+tls | 20:56 |
| SpamapS | jsemar: Its similar to the config I use for my laptop to relay through a smart host. | 20:57 |
| RoyK | natty installation was quite nice, btw, at least on the desktop - it starts installing in the background before asking stupid questions like username/timezone etc :) | 20:57 |
| SpamapS | geekbri: EC2 ips, even the elastic IPs, are pretty much banned by now | 20:57 |
| SpamapS | too much abuse out there. | 20:57 |
| SpamapS | RoyK: I think Maverick did that too.. | 20:58 |
| geekbri | i guess that makes sense... its just unfortunate when you want to send automated emails to yourself :) | 20:58 |
| SpamapS | does.. shouldn't refer to the stable release in the past tense.. ;) | 20:58 |
| RoyK | SpamapS: oh - dunno - haven't installed a maverick desktop yet - only upgraded to it... | 20:58 |
| geekbri | you know whats nice? | 21:01 |
| geekbri | ubuntu on ec2, i haven't found a server distro with as much support as it yet. | 21:01 |
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| ccm | Hi there | 21:23 |
| hallyn | kirkland: I don't yet have the upload rights | 22:03 |
| hallyn | (I test with a vmbuilder push that I want to do every morning :) | 22:03 |
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| kirkland | hallyn: still around? | 22:39 |
| hallyn | yup | 22:40 |
| hallyn | kirkland: what's up? | 22:41 |
| kirkland | hallyn: just sent you the kvm auto install magic | 22:41 |
| hallyn | ah, thanks. | 22:41 |
| kirkland | hallyn: essentially, it's: | 22:41 |
| kirkland | boot an ubuntu server ISO and append "priority=critical locale=en_US url=http://bit.ly/ubuntu-nqa" to the kernel command line | 22:41 |
| kirkland | hallyn: noting that we might need to tweak the preseed file which is pointed to by url=http://bit.ly/ubuntu-nqa" | 22:42 |
| kirkland | nqa is my acronym for "no questions asked" | 22:42 |
| hallyn | and so i should test it and send it on to the kvm-autotest folks? | 22:42 |
| * hallyn is watching grub compile and his memory is failing him | 22:43 | |
| kirkland | hallyn: right | 22:45 |
| kirkland | hallyn: what i've never quite been clear on | 22:46 |
| kirkland | hallyn: is what/how they want to call this | 22:46 |
| kirkland | hallyn: note that the preseed pointed to by that bit.ly link should probably go into kvm-autotest's source control | 22:46 |
| kirkland | hallyn: and it'll need to be web-retrievable from somewhere, perhaps a raw git print | 22:46 |
| kirkland | hallyn: and you can shorten that with bit.ly or the like | 22:46 |
| kirkland | hallyn: does that make sense? | 22:47 |
| hallyn | are bit.ly links permanent? | 22:47 |
| oraqol | hey yall, quick question, what exactly is Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud? Is it a virtualization platform? I've got a quadcore amd 6 gig rig, is that enough to support it? | 22:47 |
| hallyn | (that is, until .ly goes down :) | 22:47 |
| kirkland | hallyn: yeah | 22:48 |
| kirkland | hallyn: sure | 22:48 |
| kirkland | hallyn: full urls are fine too in there | 22:48 |
| kirkland | hallyn: and if it's called by a script, there's no need to obfuscate it behind a url shortener | 22:48 |
| hallyn | kirkland: ok, i'll take a look at that next week. (i'm out rest of this week). thanks | 22:49 |
| kirkland | hallyn: if you're typing it in by hand (which i do often do to quickly get a vm installed, hands off) | 22:49 |
| kirkland | hallyn: it's nice to have a bit.ly link :-) | 22:49 |
| kirkland | hallyn: sure | 22:49 |
| hallyn | you control your dns don't you so you could shorten p.c.c/~kirkland/preseed.cfg | 22:49 |
| kirkland | hallyn: heh | 22:49 |
| kirkland | hallyn: i reckon i could | 22:49 |
| kirkland | hallyn: i'm at austin java, at the moment though | 22:50 |
| kirkland | hallyn: and i haven't pwned their dns....yet.... :-) | 22:50 |
| hallyn | ah been back to thunderbird? | 22:50 |
| kirkland | hallyn: i haven't, actually | 22:50 |
| kirkland | hallyn: i just finished the bag of beans i bought there, though, so i was thinking about it yesterday | 22:50 |
| kirkland | hallyn: i didn't pick you to be one for march madness | 22:50 |
| hallyn | huh? | 22:51 |
| hallyn | you'd have been right | 22:51 |
| kirkland | *robbiew is taking the rest of the week off to watch basketball :-P | 22:51 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: maybe magic can be put into cobbler to install images with koan using that presseed | 22:51 |
| hallyn | oh :) | 22:51 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: either there, or in orchestra | 22:51 |
| hallyn | unrelated :) | 22:51 |
| kirkland | hallyn: i know, i was kidding | 22:51 |
| kirkland | hallyn: i assume you care none whatsoever for NCAA basketball :-) | 22:52 |
| hallyn | right, but apparently our esteemed prez does | 22:52 |
| oraqol | no love? | 22:53 |
| hallyn | so i found 'conboy' for the n900 today. it does tomboy format, and syncs to ubuntu one! yay | 22:53 |
| hallyn | oraqol: kirkland could answer you best i think :) | 22:53 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: definitely in orchestra. But with koan we can easily install KVM images using it on the host, but right now the use of koan to install Ubuntu images is broken :) | 22:53 |
| kirkland | oraqol: what's your question? | 22:53 |
| hallyn | (just hit up-arrow twice i think) | 22:54 |
| oraqol | is it a virtualization platform? | 22:54 |
| hallyn | uec | 22:54 |
| kirkland | oraqol: UEC = Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud | 22:54 |
| kirkland | oraqol: i suppose you could call it a virtualization platform; your hardware is enough to support it, yes | 22:55 |
| hallyn | oraqol: it's intended for making clusters. what is your intended use? | 22:55 |
| kirkland | oraqol: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CDInstall#STEP%201:%20Prerequisites | 22:55 |
| oraqol | right now im running two vms on vanilla ubuntu server, one of which is a pbx, should i just be using uec as the host os? | 22:55 |
| kirkland | hallyn: i'll commit/upload vgabios now, if you like | 22:56 |
| kirkland | oraqol: do you often need to spin new vm's up and down? | 22:56 |
| oraqol | no, they tend to be always running | 22:57 |
| hallyn | kirkland: please do, thanks | 22:57 |
| kirkland | oraqol: probably not necessary in your case | 22:57 |
| kirkland | oraqol: kvm + libvirt is probably enough | 22:57 |
| oraqol | ok cool, thanks guys, much more responsive than the #ubuntu chan | 22:57 |
| oraqol | ttyl! | 22:57 |
| hallyn | all right one more attempt at building grub2 in my vm. then i give | 22:58 |
| hallyn | up | 22:58 |
| kirkland | hallyn: oh | 22:58 |
| kirkland | hallyn: actually, we need one more thing to make this vgabios work | 22:58 |
| hallyn | ? | 22:59 |
| kirkland | $ dpkg -S /usr/share/qemu/vgabios.bin | 22:59 |
| kirkland | qemu-common: /usr/share/qemu/vgabios.bin | 22:59 |
| kirkland | hallyn: qemu-common puts symlinks in that particular path | 22:59 |
| kirkland | hallyn: so we'll have dpkg conflicts | 22:59 |
| hallyn | hold on - maybe not (checking) | 22:59 |
| hallyn | oh | 23:00 |
| hallyn | so why does qemu-common create that link? if it doesn't provide the file? | 23:00 |
| kirkland | hallyn: so actually, i think we just need to remove vgabios/debian/links entirely | 23:00 |
| kirkland | hallyn: okay, here's the logic ... | 23:00 |
| hallyn | well then qemu-common needs to add a bunch more | 23:00 |
| hallyn | (vgabios.qxl.bin, etc) | 23:00 |
| kirkland | hallyn: vgabios puts its bios files in a path that it "owns", /usr/share/vgabios/* | 23:00 |
| kirkland | hallyn: qemu-common depends on vgabios to be functional | 23:01 |
| kirkland | hallyn: and qemu, itself, expects those vgabios files to be in /usr/share/qemu/* | 23:01 |
| kirkland | hallyn: so it should be up to qemu to put symlinks in its owned path to the data it needs | 23:01 |
| kirkland | hallyn: and if qemu needs to add more links, then so be it | 23:02 |
| kirkland | hallyn: but it should be up to qemu package to do that | 23:02 |
| kirkland | hallyn: makes sense? | 23:02 |
| hallyn | sure | 23:02 |
| hallyn | it does make sense | 23:02 |
| hallyn | so scratch that merge request :) | 23:03 |
| kirkland | hallyn: okay, i'm going to fix that in the branch and upload | 23:03 |
| hallyn | which branch? | 23:03 |
| hallyn | both should be done at once, probably, so if you wanted to wait until monday... | 23:03 |
| hallyn | i.e. you can't remove the links from vgabios without fixing qemu-common, without biting some people, right? | 23:04 |
| kirkland | hallyn: hmm, no, i don't think that's a problem | 23:05 |
| kirkland | hallyn: what extra links are needed in qemu-common? | 23:05 |
| kirkland | hallyn: vgabios uploaded | 23:06 |
| kirkland | hallyn: i'm looking at qemu now | 23:06 |
| hallyn | Well, vgabios has all those oterh bios names now... | 23:08 |
| kirkland | hallyn: ah, yes, i see | 23:09 |
| kirkland | hallyn: i'll get those fixed now | 23:09 |
| hallyn | kirkland: thanks! | 23:10 |
| kirkland | hallyn: gotta run now, but i'll get it uploaded tonight | 23:15 |
| kirkland | hallyn: bzr is really slow over public wifi :-( | 23:15 |
| hallyn | kirkland: s/over.$// | 23:17 |
| hallyn | oh no did i say that? | 23:18 |
| hallyn | kirkland: thanks, ttyl | 23:18 |
| hallyn | kirkland: btw, it helps to preseed (if you will) your laptop... I have one shared bzr repo which makes subsequent re-fetches of a tree pretty fast no matter what | 23:19 |
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