| wolfger | 43 more days... | 11:47 |
|---|---|---|
| wolfger | ...until everybody starts asking "is it out yet?" every 5-10 minutes. | 11:48 |
| tjagoda | ? | 11:51 |
| tjagoda | oh | 11:51 |
| tjagoda | derp | 11:51 |
| wolfger | 43 more days of me asking "does my wifi work yet?" :-p | 11:55 |
| wolfger | because after it launches, I know they'll never fix it. | 11:56 |
| brousch | it's a security feature | 12:02 |
| tjagoda | I am not so sure about this 6-month release cycle anymore | 12:02 |
| tjagoda | What do we get from it besides a lot of versions with minimal change and continually decreasing quality? =P | 12:03 |
| brousch | minimal change? Unity is coming | 12:04 |
| tjagoda | Speaking over the last 3-4 releases though, I would say that the change between where we are right now and where I was at 7.04 is not really that large of a difference | 12:06 |
| tjagoda | years, not releases* | 12:06 |
| tjagoda | 7.04 was actually the most flawlessly working Ubuntu I ever experienced | 12:06 |
| tjagoda | Quality all went downhill from that Feisty Fawn. =p | 12:06 |
| brousch | 8.04 is my favorite | 12:08 |
| wolfger | tjagoda++ | 12:08 |
| tjagoda | I hope I dont hate Unity | 12:09 |
| tjagoda | It would suck to have to jump the ubuntu ship | 12:09 |
| brousch | Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu | 12:09 |
| tjagoda | Even Wolfger wont use Kubuntu | 12:10 |
| tjagoda | I'm not going there! =p | 12:10 |
| brousch | plenty of stepchildren to hop onto so you can stay with the *buntu family | 12:10 |
| tjagoda | Wonder if there's a fluxbunt? | 12:10 |
| tjagoda | fluxbuntu* | 12:10 |
| * tjagoda googles | 12:10 | |
| brousch | i think so | 12:10 |
| wolfger | Mmm...fluxbuntu... | 12:10 |
| brousch | http://fluxbuntu.org/ | 12:11 |
| tjagoda | died at 9.04 | 12:11 |
| brousch | i think the little window manager people have hopped over to lubuntu | 12:11 |
| tjagoda | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox | 12:12 |
| wolfger | 9.04 was Jaunty, right? That was a prettty good release | 12:12 |
| tjagoda | 9.04 was indeed jaunty | 12:13 |
| wolfger | I think the quality scale goes: Feisty, Jaunty, everything else, Intrepid. | 12:16 |
| wolfger | If there's anyting worse than Intrepid, I never used it | 12:16 |
| wolfger | so xubuntu 9.04 might be a good choice | 12:17 |
| tjagoda | True | 12:17 |
| wolfger | er... fluxbuntu, I mean | 12:17 |
| tjagoda | I ask myself, what application updates since then do I actually like? | 12:17 |
| tjagoda | I am not able to produce an answer apart from "when GNOME-DO works" | 12:18 |
| wolfger | improvements to Gwibber | 12:18 |
| tjagoda | I do not use it | 12:18 |
| wolfger | well, then.... nothing :-) | 12:18 |
| tjagoda | All my tweeting is done from Seesmic on my blackberry | 12:19 |
| tjagoda | also | 12:19 |
| tjagoda | fuck you twitter | 12:19 |
| tjagoda | pry my 3rd party clients out of my cold dead hands | 12:19 |
| tjagoda | your blackberry app sucks | 12:19 |
| wolfger | indeed | 12:19 |
| wolfger | But Twitter has sucked ever since they changed default behavior to not show your friends' @-replies to people other than you. | 12:20 |
| wolfger | If I want a private conversation, I'll use DM's | 12:21 |
| tjagoda | Truth | 12:22 |
| tjagoda | Perhaps I should look at identi.ca | 12:22 |
| wolfger | I can't remember the last time tjagoda and I agreed on so much. Judgement Day must be near | 12:24 |
| tjagoda | Truth, with wolfger and I agreeing, and a world full of natural disasters and revolutions, perhaps everything IS going to end in 2012 =P | 12:24 |
| wolfger | .oO(so this is what happens when I stop trolling...) | 12:24 |
| tjagoda | Also | 12:25 |
| tjagoda | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003A9GBC4?ie=UTF8&tag=elemmedios-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B003A9GBC4 | 12:25 |
| tjagoda | That would be cool of HTPC | 12:25 |
| tjagoda | touchpad + qwerty keyboard | 12:25 |
| tjagoda | about the size of a blackberry | 12:25 |
| tjagoda | USB wireless | 12:25 |
| tjagoda | I think I may have Stockholm syndrome with respect to my blackberry | 12:30 |
| tjagoda | despite it being obviously behind the other smartphones in terms of features | 12:30 |
| tjagoda | I would still buy another one =( | 12:30 |
| wolfger | Have you tried another phone? | 12:30 |
| wolfger | I love my BlackBerry until I tried something else. | 12:31 |
| wolfger | Never looked back | 12:31 |
| wolfger | One thing I do miss about the old BB is the ease of single-handed use. Very difficult to use a touch screen with just one hand | 12:32 |
| wolfger | I was good at using that full qwerty keyboard with my thumb | 12:33 |
| tjagoda | I say there is no better hardware for pure messaging | 12:33 |
| wolfger | tjagoda: no better hardware, but Swype software makes up for a lot. I like a virtual keyboard with Swype over a BB keyboard | 12:44 |
| tjagoda | I also like not giving my entire life to google | 12:46 |
| tjagoda | If they shut off my account one day my entire virtual presence would be so hosed | 12:46 |
| brousch | who cares? if google shuts off it means the world is ending | 12:46 |
| brousch | you'll have bigger problems to deal with at that point | 12:46 |
| wolfger | brousch++ | 12:49 |
| tjagoda | Not total google meltdown | 12:49 |
| tjagoda | like TOS switchoffs or whatever their EULA I didn't read allows them to do =P | 12:50 |
| brousch | well you're already hosed there too. upon receipt of your first email in gmail you pledged to enslave yourself to the Google Hivemind Supercomputer come 2023 | 12:59 |
| tjagoda | So.. | 12:59 |
| tjagoda | The matrix? | 12:59 |
| brousch | but run by Google employees instead of evil machines | 13:00 |
| tjagoda | Is there a difference? | 13:00 |
| wolfger | sweet | 13:00 |
| wolfger | remind me to take the red pill | 13:00 |
| brousch | and they don't give a shit about your power output, just using your brain to calculate targeted ads to the superrich | 13:00 |
| snap-l | I absolutely hated the Blackberry | 13:11 |
| snap-l | though I have to say the keyboard was a mixed bag | 13:11 |
| snap-l | good for touch typing, but a pain for finding symbols and crap | 13:11 |
| snap-l | alt for som, sym for others, and num did something that I can't remember what. :) | 13:12 |
| wolfger | there goes snap-l, with his incorrect opinions again. :-) | 13:16 |
| snap-l | wolfger: I think the Blackberry would be an excellent device to skip across a lake. | 13:19 |
| wolfger | You're probably right. | 13:19 |
| wolfger | At least, as long as the EPA doesn't find out | 13:19 |
| tjagoda | There is no more num button | 13:19 |
| wolfger | I'm sure you'd get fines and/or jail time | 13:20 |
| snap-l | On mine there was, but it didn't do anything useful | 13:20 |
| snap-l | had to use Alt to get numbers | 13:20 |
| snap-l | which was pretty stupid | 13:20 |
| tjagoda | indeed | 13:20 |
| tjagoda | Well | 13:20 |
| tjagoda | not stupid in that it auto gets numbers when you're in phone mode | 13:20 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: Oh please, do argue this one. ;) | 13:20 |
| tjagoda | If you hit call and then just type they are automatically numbers | 13:21 |
| tjagoda | Alt gets you the alt character | 13:21 |
| tjagoda | sym gets you anything not on the keybaord | 13:21 |
| snap-l | Right, and it transformed from a decently sized qwerty keyboard into the worlds smallest numberpad | 13:21 |
| tjagoda | seems simple to me =P | 13:21 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: I stand by my assertion that the Blackberry is the Lotus Notes of cellphones | 13:22 |
| tjagoda | oh wow | 13:22 |
| tjagoda | Symbian is | 13:22 |
| tjagoda | lol | 13:22 |
| tjagoda | Blackberry is good for business people still | 13:23 |
| snap-l | Symbian is the HP Calculator of Cellphones. | 13:23 |
| tjagoda | and it's got the reputation/status going for it | 13:23 |
| snap-l | and Lotus Notes is still good for business. | 13:23 |
| tjagoda | OS6 catches them up to the competition noticeably as well which is nice | 13:24 |
| snap-l | Hey, you can bend Lotus Notes into just about anything | 13:24 |
| snap-l | except the interface is shit no matter how you polish it. | 13:24 |
| tjagoda | Meh | 13:24 |
| tjagoda | I disagree with your incorrect opinion =P | 13:24 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I used OS4, which was pretty clunky | 13:24 |
| snap-l | HAven't played with any of the later phones | 13:24 |
| snap-l | but hey, Lotus Notes 8 was pretty spiffy looking too. ;) | 13:25 |
| snap-l | http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/products/notes/ | 13:25 |
| tjagoda | Now you're just trolling =P | 13:25 |
| snap-l | ha ha, only serious. | 13:25 |
| tjagoda | I don't think iPhone/Android have anything to replace BBerry enterprise server though, do they? | 13:26 |
| snap-l | http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/products/notes/whatsnewinnotes.html | 13:26 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: iPhone has exchange support, but that's about it | 13:26 |
| tjagoda | Can't do any of the security policy stuff though | 13:26 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it's not quite the same | 13:27 |
| tjagoda | I'd say they're definitely winning in the "manage huge quantities of phones with minimal pain" arena | 13:27 |
| snap-l | Though, to be fair, $lastjob didn't make me use the BB for email | 13:27 |
| snap-l | and when my password changed, I didn't pursue getting it synced up with the server | 13:27 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: Agreed, just like Lotus Notes. :) | 13:27 |
| snap-l | http://ubuntuone.com/p/hxZ/ <- Dude, this guy is totally styling. | 13:28 |
| snap-l | He's saying "Yeah, man, Lotus Notes is cool too" | 13:29 |
| snap-l | "All the chicks dig my Domino Server" | 13:29 |
| binbrain | snap-l that guys WAY to hip for corporate enterprise, very bad ass | 13:30 |
| tjagoda | I like blackberry hardware, anyway | 13:30 |
| tjagoda | the form factor of the phone fits in the hand nicely | 13:30 |
| tjagoda | very easy to 1-hand use | 13:30 |
| snap-l | binbrain: It's the yellow glasses and the soul patch that say "I'm the COOL guy in IT" | 13:31 |
| tjagoda | I might buy a playbook when they come out | 13:31 |
| snap-l | "The one that'll be taking Suzie from Accounting home once she gets a load of my Domino Server" | 13:31 |
| tjagoda | just to have more to argue with snap-l about | 13:31 |
| tjagoda | =p | 13:31 |
| tjagoda | Everybody hates IBM these days, don't they. | 13:32 |
| tjagoda | DB2 gets no love | 13:32 |
| tjagoda | Lotus gets no love | 13:32 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: DB2 gets the love it deserves | 13:32 |
| tjagoda | Hardware gets some love | 13:32 |
| snap-l | UDB is a festring piece of crap | 13:33 |
| tjagoda | God damn crabby old men ;) | 13:34 |
| snap-l | Have you USED UDB? | 13:35 |
| * greg-g waves | 13:36 | |
| snap-l | 1982 called and wanted it's database back | 13:36 |
| jrwren | wtf is UDB? | 13:38 |
| snap-l | Unix version of DB2 | 13:41 |
| snap-l | They managed to make it worse than real DB2 (which I actually liked with my limited dealings with it) | 13:41 |
| snap-l | for some reason we were stuck with a version that gave us 13 character table names | 13:42 |
| snap-l | and column names | 13:42 |
| brousch | 13 characters is enough for anyone | 13:43 |
| snap-l | and Chrysler had this really stupid hungarian-style notation for the column that took up a good chunk of that | 13:43 |
| snap-l | so instead of having an integer field for the number of times accessed called "num_of_times_accessed" (or something equivalent), you'd get i_numtimesacc | 13:44 |
| tjagoda | ohhhhhhh | 13:46 |
| snap-l | or something even worse than that | 13:46 |
| tjagoda | Blackberry playbook may be out on april 10 | 13:46 |
| * tjagoda squees | 13:46 | |
| snap-l | tjagoda: better camp out now | 13:46 |
| snap-l | be the first in line | 13:46 |
| brousch | ew | 13:46 |
| tjagoda | More portable than iPad | 13:46 |
| brousch | i'm more interested in the webos tablet | 13:46 |
| tjagoda | faster | 13:46 |
| tjagoda | greater battery life | 13:47 |
| tjagoda | And distinctly more Canadian. =P | 13:47 |
| brousch | the android compatibility might save t | 13:47 |
| snap-l | abler to leap taller buildings with a singler bound | 13:47 |
| rick_h_ | morning, phew last full day of hacking | 13:47 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: When are you coming back from candyland? | 13:47 |
| rick_h_ | tomorrow afternoon | 13:48 |
| snap-l | Ahh, cool | 13:48 |
| rick_h_ | today is interview day, one guy went home, but working on getting the three today | 13:49 |
| snap-l | (yay) | 13:50 |
| snap-l | I know what I'll be doing tomorrow night. ;) | 13:50 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: http://twitter.com/#!/mpirnat/status/47874644446953473 | 13:50 |
| rick_h_ | and http://twitter.com/#!/mpirnat/status/47871256233639936 | 13:50 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: HAH! I KNEW IT! | 13:51 |
| jrwren | snap-l: the naming conventions you mention is standard on every enterprise DB I've ever seen. | 13:53 |
| snap-l | jrwren: ye gads, they suck | 13:53 |
| jrwren | its mostly becuase all this stuff came out of the 70s and 80s and systems were very memory constrained | 13:53 |
| snap-l | Right, and if we were using a database from the 1980s, I'd completely understand. :) | 13:54 |
| snap-l | But 1980-2008 had some remarkable advances in memory technology. ;) | 13:55 |
| jrwren | but many enterprise systems did not. | 13:55 |
| jrwren | they grew, but they didn't migrate or fully rewrite | 13:55 |
| jrwren | many ERP systems still have cobol components | 13:56 |
| snap-l | coming to find out that Chrysler was not the innovator of many of the backward concepts that I've seen. ;) | 13:56 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Yeah, but this was a new system, running on newer hardware. | 13:56 |
| jrwren | new to them? newly purchased? or newly developed? | 13:57 |
| snap-l | new development | 13:57 |
| jrwren | well then they should fail. | 13:57 |
| snap-l | as in we were making the column names in conjunction with the DBA | 13:57 |
| jrwren | there is no excuse for that kind of development these days. | 13:57 |
| snap-l | I agree. | 13:57 |
| jrwren | oh, that was the first mistake, working with a DBA ;) | 13:57 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Was part of the process | 13:58 |
| snap-l | which was another bucket of fail | 13:58 |
| jrwren | that is another mistake, making that the process | 13:58 |
| jrwren | snap-l: who developed this? | 13:58 |
| snap-l | jrwren: It was like they created an assembly line for releasing code | 13:58 |
| snap-l | internal development, along with outsourcing | 13:58 |
| wolfger | snap-l: does Chrysler innovate any ideas, good or bad? I mean, other than the minivan... | 13:59 |
| jrwren | the "software factories" approach? | 13:59 |
| jrwren | snap-l: internal to whom? | 13:59 |
| snap-l | Not sure how to best explain this | 13:59 |
| snap-l | internal to chrysler. | 13:59 |
| jrwren | oh, it is chrysler? lolz. | 13:59 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I should tell you what the process was as I understood it next time we meet up. It was absolute hell | 14:01 |
| snap-l | It was designed more to keep code out than let folks fix things. | 14:02 |
| wolfger | well, code can be dangerous | 14:03 |
| wolfger | so of course we want to keep it out, ne? | 14:03 |
| snap-l | Well, and it was all because someone managed to bust DealerConnect to the point that Dieter Zetsche had to get involved. | 14:05 |
| snap-l | So, I kinda understand, but still, FieldConnect was nowhere near the Dealerships, yet it was treated with the same kid gloves. | 14:05 |
| snap-l | It was a fucked up process, regardless | 14:06 |
| snap-l | Contained all of the worst bits of waterfall development with hour-long meetings where everyone played the parts of amateur designer and English teacher | 14:07 |
| snap-l | I swear we had a 20 minute discussion over a fucking semicolon once. | 14:08 |
| wolfger | LOL | 14:10 |
| wolfger | Semi-colons are important; people should use them correctly. | 14:11 |
| brousch | what was the semicolon fucking? | 14:11 |
| snap-l | brousch: Apparently all that was good and holy with the world for the person who pressed the issue. | 14:13 |
| waldo323 | great first line to see when entering a channel, heh | 14:13 |
| wolfger | Anybody going to Indy Linux Fest? | 14:37 |
| wolfger | http://www.indianalinux.org/cms/ | 14:37 |
| tjagoda | nope | 14:39 |
| brousch | a couple of friends from the west side, but not me | 14:41 |
| snap-l | I'm not planning on it right now | 14:47 |
| snap-l | http://i.imgur.com/H64HK.jpg | 14:52 |
| snap-l | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFuMpYTyRjw | 14:53 |
| wolfger | Hey, does this page look like utter crap to anybody else? http://www.indianalinux.org/cms/schedule2011 | 15:00 |
| snap-l | It looks like an 8-bit inspired artwork of the backslash | 15:01 |
| snap-l | But otherwise looks OK over here. | 15:01 |
| snap-l | Looks like any other crappy drupal site. | 15:01 |
| brousch | looks messy | 15:03 |
| wolfger | snap-l: I'm seeing a QR-code and the associated text right over the top of two of the schedule tables | 15:03 |
| wolfger | obliterating a chunk of schedule | 15:03 |
| brousch | that looks fine on mine | 15:05 |
| brousch | get a real browser | 15:05 |
| snap-l | Same here, though I'm using Chrome | 15:05 |
| snap-l | same here as in it looks OK | 15:06 |
| brousch | they don't care how it looks in ie | 15:06 |
| wolfger | brousch: I don't care how it looks in IE either | 15:10 |
| wolfger | FF 3.6.13 here | 15:10 |
| wolfger | Maybe ABP was interfering? | 15:11 |
| wolfger | Nope, that's not it | 15:12 |
| wolfger | There we go... Maximized the window. | 15:12 |
| wolfger | QR code box appears to be anchored to the right side of the browser window | 15:13 |
| wolfger | And the sucky thing is, I keep my browser at roughly full-size for a non-widescreen monitor | 15:14 |
| wolfger | they've designed a webpage for widescreen only. | 15:14 |
| snap-l | Just subscribed to the pycon miro feed. Ye gads, that's a lot of video. | 15:16 |
| snap-l | And this is why I love me some miro | 15:18 |
| wolfger | gonna take the free-licensed content and slap together a "best of Pycon" LoCoCast? | 15:21 |
| snap-l | wolfger: You've not been listening to lococast lately, have you? :) | 15:23 |
| wolfger | Not since Rick's "Day 1" episode | 15:24 |
| wolfger | which I suspect I didn't even hear all of | 15:24 |
| snap-l | There's two more on there | 15:28 |
| greg-g | what, the, hell, that is the stupidest way to make that schedule | 15:36 |
| tjagoda | Awwh | 15:36 |
| tjagoda | No more Ontario Linux Fest | 15:37 |
| tjagoda | =( | 15:37 |
| jrwren | why not? | 15:37 |
| tjagoda | Seems the organizer doesn't want to do it | 15:37 |
| tjagoda | http://onlinux.ca/node/11 | 15:38 |
| jrwren | well, that is a good reason. | 15:42 |
| jrwren | someone else should step up... or let it die. | 15:42 |
| * wolfger looks at tjgoda, who professes to be Canadian these days... | 15:44 | |
| wolfger | I know you know how to run a con, sir. | 15:44 |
| snap-l | Yeah, that happened last year | 15:52 |
| snap-l | Not sure if that still means that this year is still off | 15:53 |
| tjagoda | If I actually lived in ontario I would do so | 15:53 |
| tjagoda | I, however, do not | 15:53 |
| brousch | so ontario shuts down and indianapolis starts up | 15:57 |
| wolfger | That's right. Support it, bitches. Don't let another con go down the tubes. :-) | 16:10 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: http://uploads.mitechie.com/lococast_pycon.png seems like pycon's been good to us :) | 16:42 |
| jcastro | nice! | 16:44 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: never ran into evan, tried to get amber to intro us so I could deliver your message | 16:44 |
| rick_h_ | not sure if he's still down here | 16:44 |
| rick_h_ | hopefully getting an interview with Michael Food a bit later so I'll ask him | 16:45 |
| jcastro | I've chatted with him since then | 16:45 |
| jcastro | thanks though | 16:45 |
| rick_h_ | ah, gotcha | 16:45 |
| wolfger | rick_h_: Looking for an appointment with food? | 16:46 |
| rick_h_ | sorry, foord | 16:46 |
| rick_h_ | I'm approaching dead here, typing and 'making sense' will suffer :) | 16:46 |
| snap-l | Very cool! | 16:47 |
| rick_h_ | yea, still not over 200 feed subscribers, but getting close | 16:47 |
| rick_h_ | but a lot of downloads/traffic recently to the feed | 16:47 |
| wolfger | I have no idea if I'm a subscriber or not. | 16:48 |
| wolfger | Every time I open up Google Listen, I have to click on the Subscribe button again, and then open the menu and click Refresh to get new episodes. | 16:48 |
| rick_h_ | ugh | 16:49 |
| wolfger | Listen is a cool concept, but I don't think it actually works very well. | 16:49 |
| rick_h_ | someone else was having feed problems | 16:49 |
| rick_h_ | try to delete /readd if you get some time | 16:49 |
| jrwren | Michael Foord is a MSFT luver. be sure to wash your hands. :p | 16:49 |
| rick_h_ | wonder if it had a bump | 16:49 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: heh, as he uses his mac | 16:49 |
| rick_h_ | but yea, big ironpython guy | 16:49 |
| rick_h_ | will be interesting to chat | 16:50 |
| rick_h_ | gah, upload faster, been saying 1hr left for last 50min | 16:50 |
| binbrain | I feel like there has to be a single cmd for this but can't find, want to gen new uuid and have fstab automatically updated to reflect, anybody? | 16:53 |
| snap-l | no idea | 17:01 |
| jrwren | uuidgen | 17:20 |
| jrwren | but doesn't the FS already have a uuid? | 17:20 |
| jrwren | you can use uuidgen+tune2fs+sed to fix up your fstab with a new uuidgen, but I don't know of a built in | 17:21 |
| jrwren | oh, and maybe findfs so you know it worked correctly | 17:22 |
| binbrain | jrwren: that's the combo I was guessing I was going to have to, just seemed like an obvious thing, if I tune2fs with a new uuid, I want to have fstab updated | 17:24 |
| jrwren | i've done it manually a few times. | 17:26 |
| jrwren | only every time I add a disk | 17:26 |
| jrwren | and since I'm not a sysadmin, that has been about 5 times ;) | 17:27 |
| snap-l | squeekyhoho: @CnkoymAinjad277: OMG, I just told a spammer to go fuck a barbecue while dousing themselves with gasoline. What a coincidence! |01:26 PM Mar 16, 2011 | 17:28 |
| snap-l | Nice... apparently there's a network of them that will spout shit if you post to them | 17:32 |
| Blazeix | I'm just catching up on the recent lococasts. One of my friends has been trying to run qtile for about year on ubuntu - he's never successfully set it up :( | 17:50 |
| brousch | it will take me 2 months to catch up on all the new lococasts | 17:53 |
| snap-l | Man, so much great content on the web. | 18:02 |
| snap-l | Going to need another hard drive soon for all of the pycon videos, and a game development youtube channel I found | 18:03 |
| binbrain | jwren: have a bootable hd that will be dd'd to mass produce other hds, need to be able to dd and then tell the new hd it needs to use a diff uuid, thanks for the help, uuidgen+tune2fs+sed is my answer | 18:46 |
| jrwren | why the different uuid? | 18:52 |
| jrwren | the disks will never be in the same server, so it doesn't matter. | 18:53 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: got a hold of Evan, cool guy | 19:35 |
| rick_h_ | had a great discussion on Unity, he says I should get a hold of Neil Patel for an interview on unity/issues, sound right? | 19:36 |
| rick_h_ | and poor guy is a penguins fan who's not heard any recent news of them or Crosby's status | 19:36 |
| jcastro | yeah | 19:38 |
| jcastro | but neil is super busy | 19:38 |
| jcastro | you might not get any unity folks for an interview, maybe DBO would be the best bet | 19:39 |
| jcastro | call in a favor from the old days | 19:39 |
| rick_h_ | cool, I'll check in with you when I get back | 19:45 |
| rick_h_ | well. | 19:45 |
| rick_h_ | oops | 19:45 |
| rick_h_ | typo | 19:45 |
| rick_h_ | twitter down/giving strange error for anyone else? | 19:46 |
| _stink_ | working here | 19:47 |
| rick_h_ | http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/14/something-is-technically-wrong-with-twitter-com/ | 19:49 |
| rick_h_ | looks like not just me then | 19:49 |
| _stink_ | 2010? | 19:51 |
| _stink_ | :D | 19:52 |
| rick_h_ | oh, whoops | 19:52 |
| rick_h_ | http://status.twitter.com/post/3902683774/experiencing-elevated-error-rates | 19:52 |
| rick_h_ | well that too | 19:52 |
| rick_h_ | funny, I told google to only pull results from the last 24 hrs | 19:53 |
| rick_h_ | and that still came up, wtf | 19:53 |
| binbrain | jrwren: good point but there are times during the validation of the process that they will have same disks hooked up at the same time | 19:59 |
| rick_h_ | http://blip.tv/file/4884733 8:30 in there _stink_ Blazeix widox_ | 20:03 |
| * snap-l checks to see if there isn't some secret tiling foo in there. | 20:06 | |
| _stink_ | video choppy for anyone else? | 20:07 |
| binbrain | my new MacBook Pro just came in the mail, can't wait to get Linux on this bad boy | 20:08 |
| snap-l | I can't seek in the video at all | 20:09 |
| brousch | why would you pay big bucks for a MBP only to put linux on it? | 20:09 |
| snap-l | dual boot? | 20:09 |
| brousch | VM | 20:09 |
| _stink_ | rick_h_: haha, this is great | 20:10 |
| brousch | putting linux on apple hardware always has some missing/crappy drivers | 20:10 |
| _stink_ | OH MAN i can hear rick_h_ laughing! | 20:10 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 20:11 |
| gamerchick02 | personally, if i had a MBP, i'd dual boot. | 20:11 |
| gamerchick02 | i do now with windows 7 (don't hate me, please) | 20:12 |
| snap-l | Ah, I already downloaded this | 20:12 |
| snap-l | gamerchick02: I'd use a VM with a Macbook | 20:12 |
| gamerchick02 | and the new MBP 13" looks beautiful | 20:12 |
| gamerchick02 | why, snap-l? works better? | 20:12 |
| * gamerchick02 is curious, not confrontational. | 20:13 | |
| rick_h_ | dual boot you tend to live in one other other | 20:13 |
| rick_h_ | I dual boot Win7 as well, but only go in to record | 20:13 |
| rick_h_ | so I'm not getting better/learning any new features | 20:13 |
| snap-l | gamerchick02: becuase Linux can handle VMs better. ;) | 20:13 |
| rick_h_ | whereas with a VM, especially in transparent mode, I might run apps/tools from both OS's at the same time | 20:13 |
| gamerchick02 | ah | 20:13 |
| brousch | yes | 20:15 |
| brousch | i can run osx, winxp, and linux at the same time | 20:16 |
| snap-l | Help qtile grow exponentially, we only need two of you. :) | 20:16 |
| gamerchick02 | nice. | 20:17 |
| snap-l | If I could get away with it, I'd put Windows in a VM on all of the machines that need it | 20:17 |
| snap-l | so then I could just pop into Windows when needed, and then do real work when it's not needed. | 20:17 |
| gamerchick02 | brilliant, snap-l. | 20:17 |
| snap-l | and when my parents fuck up their Windows partition even more, I could just reload Windows from the last known good snapshot | 20:17 |
| gamerchick02 | that's... slick. :) | 20:18 |
| snap-l | Man, rick_h_ projects. :) | 20:18 |
| rick_h_ | ?? | 20:18 |
| snap-l | pro-jects into all of the microphones | 20:18 |
| rick_h_ | voice on those not good? | 20:18 |
| snap-l | No, they're great | 20:18 |
| rick_h_ | damn, I gave them the good mic today | 20:18 |
| snap-l | but you're too big for one mic. ;) | 20:18 |
| rick_h_ | and kept the cheap one for me | 20:18 |
| rick_h_ | hoping it would help | 20:19 |
| snap-l | It's not bad, but there's bleed through | 20:19 |
| snap-l | on the pyramid one at least | 20:19 |
| rick_h_ | damn, which one is this? | 20:19 |
| rick_h_ | ugh, /me goes back to mic shopping | 20:19 |
| snap-l | And that's partially because Chris talks like a southerner. | 20:20 |
| rick_h_ | yea, he's a kind of quiet guy | 20:20 |
| snap-l | and rick_h_ talks like a NORTHERNER | 20:21 |
| rick_h_ | woo! | 20:21 |
| rick_h_ | fight that southern heritage! | 20:21 |
| gamerchick02 | uhm, i talk like a Northerner. i think. i'm not from the "south" | 20:22 |
| gamerchick02 | middle, really | 20:22 |
| snap-l | I'm using Autoduck an awful lot. ;) | 20:27 |
| rick_h_ | damn | 20:28 |
| rick_h_ | was really hoping wouldn't be needed | 20:28 |
| rick_h_ | it sounds awful as the tracks jump in/out | 20:28 |
| snap-l | no worries | 20:28 |
| * rick_h_ hangs head in shame | 20:28 | |
| snap-l | It's not as bad as you might think | 20:29 |
| snap-l | I lower the volume a bit. | 20:29 |
| jcastro | snap-l: what was the name of that rush documentary? | 21:31 |
| snap-l | Beyond the Lighted Stage | 21:42 |
| snap-l | jcastro: ^ | 21:42 |
| rick_h_ | https://github.com/bitprophet/fabric/compare/b2cd73cf77...0950b50bb6 woot | 21:43 |
| binbrain | awesome rick_h_ whatcha do for fabric? | 21:56 |
| rick_h_ | sprinted with them | 21:56 |
| rick_h_ | created 6 branches of tickets stuff for it | 21:56 |
| rick_h_ | so looks like a couple got merged in so far | 21:56 |
| rick_h_ | couple were just creating branches from people's patches, couple were bug fixes I submitted, and one was a big change to the way the tests ran | 21:56 |
| rick_h_ | wrote a new decoarator that helped mock out part of the system for tests | 21:57 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Holy shit that's awesome! | 21:57 |
| rick_h_ | https://github.com/mitechie/fabric/commit/76f7f86a72af4681bc653c9ea56ed6bb62685238 was the biggest one | 21:59 |
| greg-g | PORK CHOP SANDWICHES! | 22:42 |
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