[11:47] <wolfger> 43 more days...
[11:48] <wolfger> ...until everybody starts asking "is it out yet?" every 5-10 minutes.
[11:51] <tjagoda> ?
[11:51] <tjagoda> oh
[11:51] <tjagoda> derp
[11:55] <wolfger> 43 more days of me asking "does my wifi work yet?" :-p
[11:56] <wolfger> because after it launches, I know they'll never fix it.
[12:02] <brousch> it's a security feature
[12:02] <tjagoda> I am not so sure about this 6-month release cycle anymore
[12:03] <tjagoda> What do we get from it besides a lot of versions with minimal change and continually decreasing quality? =P
[12:04] <brousch> minimal change? Unity is coming
[12:06] <tjagoda> Speaking over the last 3-4 releases though, I would say that the change between where we are right now and where I was at 7.04 is not really that large of a difference
[12:06] <tjagoda> years, not releases*
[12:06] <tjagoda> 7.04 was actually the most flawlessly working Ubuntu I ever experienced
[12:06] <tjagoda> Quality all went downhill from that Feisty Fawn. =p
[12:08] <brousch> 8.04 is my favorite
[12:08] <wolfger> tjagoda++
[12:09] <tjagoda> I hope I dont hate Unity
[12:09] <tjagoda> It would suck to have to jump the ubuntu ship
[12:09] <brousch> Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu
[12:10] <tjagoda> Even Wolfger wont use Kubuntu
[12:10] <tjagoda> I'm not going there! =p
[12:10] <brousch> plenty of stepchildren to hop onto so you can stay with the *buntu family
[12:10] <tjagoda> Wonder if there's a fluxbunt?
[12:10] <tjagoda> fluxbuntu*
[12:10]  * tjagoda googles
[12:10] <brousch> i think so
[12:10] <wolfger> Mmm...fluxbuntu...
[12:11] <brousch> http://fluxbuntu.org/
[12:11] <tjagoda> died at 9.04
[12:11] <brousch> i think the little window manager people have hopped over to lubuntu
[12:12] <tjagoda> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[12:12] <wolfger> 9.04 was Jaunty, right? That was a prettty good release
[12:13] <tjagoda> 9.04 was indeed jaunty
[12:16] <wolfger> I think the quality scale goes: Feisty, Jaunty, everything else, Intrepid.
[12:16] <wolfger> If there's anyting worse than Intrepid, I never used it
[12:17] <wolfger> so xubuntu 9.04 might be a good choice
[12:17] <tjagoda> True
[12:17] <wolfger> er... fluxbuntu, I mean
[12:17] <tjagoda> I ask myself, what application updates since then do I actually like?
[12:18] <tjagoda> I am not able to produce an answer apart from "when GNOME-DO works"
[12:18] <wolfger> improvements to Gwibber
[12:18] <tjagoda> I do not use it
[12:18] <wolfger> well, then.... nothing :-)
[12:19] <tjagoda> All my tweeting is done from Seesmic on my blackberry
[12:19] <tjagoda> also
[12:19] <tjagoda> fuck you twitter
[12:19] <tjagoda> pry my 3rd party clients out of my cold dead hands
[12:19] <tjagoda> your blackberry app sucks
[12:19] <wolfger> indeed
[12:20] <wolfger> But Twitter has sucked ever since they changed default behavior to not show your friends' @-replies to people other than you.
[12:21] <wolfger> If I want a private conversation, I'll use DM's
[12:22] <tjagoda> Truth
[12:22] <tjagoda> Perhaps I should look at identi.ca
[12:24] <wolfger> I can't remember the last time tjagoda and I agreed on so much. Judgement Day must be near
[12:24] <tjagoda> Truth, with wolfger and I agreeing, and a world full of natural disasters and revolutions, perhaps everything IS going to end in 2012 =P
[12:24] <wolfger> .oO(so this is what happens when I stop trolling...)
[12:25] <tjagoda> Also
[12:25] <tjagoda> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003A9GBC4?ie=UTF8&tag=elemmedios-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B003A9GBC4
[12:25] <tjagoda> That would be cool of HTPC
[12:25] <tjagoda> touchpad + qwerty keyboard
[12:25] <tjagoda> about the size of a blackberry
[12:25] <tjagoda> USB wireless
[12:30] <tjagoda> I think I may have Stockholm syndrome with respect to my blackberry
[12:30] <tjagoda> despite it being obviously behind the other smartphones in terms of features
[12:30] <tjagoda> I would still buy another one =(
[12:30] <wolfger> Have you tried another phone?
[12:31] <wolfger> I love my BlackBerry until I tried something else.
[12:31] <wolfger> Never looked back
[12:32] <wolfger> One thing I do miss about the old BB is the ease of single-handed use. Very difficult to use a touch screen with just one hand
[12:33] <wolfger> I was good at using that full qwerty keyboard with my thumb
[12:33] <tjagoda> I say there is no better hardware for pure messaging
[12:44] <wolfger> tjagoda: no better hardware, but Swype software makes up for a lot. I like a virtual keyboard with Swype over a BB keyboard
[12:46] <tjagoda> I also like not giving my entire life to google
[12:46] <tjagoda> If they shut off my account one day my entire virtual presence would be so hosed
[12:46] <brousch> who cares? if google shuts off it means the world is ending
[12:46] <brousch> you'll have bigger problems to deal with at that point
[12:49] <wolfger> brousch++
[12:49] <tjagoda> Not total google meltdown
[12:50] <tjagoda> like TOS switchoffs or whatever their EULA I didn't read allows them to do =P
[12:59] <brousch> well you're already hosed there too. upon receipt of your first email in gmail you pledged to enslave yourself to the Google Hivemind Supercomputer come 2023
[12:59] <tjagoda> So..
[12:59] <tjagoda> The matrix?
[13:00] <brousch> but run by Google employees instead of evil machines
[13:00] <tjagoda> Is there a difference?
[13:00] <wolfger> sweet
[13:00] <wolfger> remind me to take the red pill
[13:00] <brousch> and they don't give a shit about your power output, just using your brain to calculate targeted ads to the superrich
[13:11] <snap-l> I absolutely hated the Blackberry
[13:11] <snap-l> though I have to say the keyboard was a mixed bag
[13:11] <snap-l> good for touch typing, but a pain for finding symbols and crap
[13:12] <snap-l> alt for som, sym for others, and num did something that I can't remember what. :)
[13:16] <wolfger> there goes snap-l, with his incorrect opinions again. :-)
[13:19] <snap-l> wolfger: I think the Blackberry would be an excellent device to skip across a lake.
[13:19] <wolfger> You're probably right.
[13:19] <wolfger> At least, as long as the EPA doesn't find out
[13:19] <tjagoda> There is no more num button
[13:20] <wolfger> I'm sure you'd get fines and/or jail time
[13:20] <snap-l> On mine there was, but it didn't do anything useful
[13:20] <snap-l> had to use Alt to get numbers
[13:20] <snap-l> which was pretty stupid
[13:20] <tjagoda> indeed
[13:20] <tjagoda> Well
[13:20] <tjagoda> not stupid in that it auto gets numbers when you're in phone mode
[13:20] <snap-l> tjagoda: Oh please, do argue this one. ;)
[13:21] <tjagoda> If you hit call and then just type they are automatically numbers
[13:21] <tjagoda> Alt gets you the alt character
[13:21] <tjagoda> sym gets you anything not on the keybaord
[13:21] <snap-l> Right, and it transformed from a decently sized qwerty keyboard into the worlds smallest numberpad
[13:21] <tjagoda> seems simple to me =P
[13:22] <snap-l> tjagoda: I stand by my assertion that the Blackberry is the Lotus Notes of cellphones
[13:22] <tjagoda> oh wow
[13:22] <tjagoda> Symbian is
[13:22] <tjagoda> lol
[13:23] <tjagoda> Blackberry is good for business people still
[13:23] <snap-l> Symbian is the HP Calculator of Cellphones.
[13:23] <tjagoda> and it's got the reputation/status going for it
[13:23] <snap-l> and Lotus Notes is still good for business.
[13:24] <tjagoda> OS6 catches them up to the competition noticeably as well which is nice
[13:24] <snap-l> Hey, you can bend Lotus Notes into just about anything
[13:24] <snap-l> except the interface is shit no matter how you polish it.
[13:24] <tjagoda> Meh
[13:24] <tjagoda> I disagree with your incorrect opinion =P
[13:24] <snap-l> Yeah, I used OS4, which was pretty clunky
[13:24] <snap-l> HAven't played with any of the later phones
[13:25] <snap-l> but hey, Lotus Notes 8 was pretty spiffy looking too. ;)
[13:25] <snap-l> http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/products/notes/
[13:25] <tjagoda> Now you're just trolling =P
[13:25] <snap-l> ha ha, only serious.
[13:26] <tjagoda> I don't think iPhone/Android have anything to replace BBerry enterprise server though, do they?
[13:26] <snap-l> http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/products/notes/whatsnewinnotes.html
[13:26] <snap-l> tjagoda: iPhone has exchange support, but that's about it
[13:26] <tjagoda> Can't do any of the security policy stuff though
[13:27] <snap-l> Yeah, it's not quite the same
[13:27] <tjagoda> I'd say they're definitely winning in the "manage huge quantities of phones with minimal pain" arena
[13:27] <snap-l> Though, to be fair, $lastjob didn't make me use the BB for email
[13:27] <snap-l> and when my password changed, I didn't pursue getting it synced up with the server
[13:27] <snap-l> tjagoda: Agreed, just like Lotus Notes. :)
[13:28] <snap-l> http://ubuntuone.com/p/hxZ/ <- Dude, this guy is totally styling.
[13:29] <snap-l> He's saying "Yeah, man, Lotus Notes is cool too"
[13:29] <snap-l> "All the chicks dig my Domino Server"
[13:30] <binbrain> snap-l that guys WAY to hip for corporate enterprise, very bad ass
[13:30] <tjagoda> I like blackberry hardware, anyway
[13:30] <tjagoda> the form factor of the phone fits in the hand nicely
[13:30] <tjagoda> very easy to 1-hand use
[13:31] <snap-l> binbrain: It's the yellow glasses and the soul patch that say "I'm the COOL guy in IT"
[13:31] <tjagoda> I might buy a playbook when they come out
[13:31] <snap-l> "The one that'll be taking Suzie from Accounting home once she gets a load of my Domino Server"
[13:31] <tjagoda> just to have more to argue with snap-l about
[13:31] <tjagoda> =p
[13:32] <tjagoda> Everybody hates IBM these days, don't they.
[13:32] <tjagoda> DB2 gets no love
[13:32] <tjagoda> Lotus gets no love
[13:32] <snap-l> tjagoda: DB2 gets the love it deserves
[13:32] <tjagoda> Hardware gets some love
[13:33] <snap-l> UDB is a festring piece of crap
[13:34] <tjagoda> God damn crabby old men ;)
[13:35] <snap-l> Have you USED UDB?
[13:36]  * greg-g waves
[13:36] <snap-l> 1982 called and wanted it's database back
[13:38] <jrwren> wtf is UDB?
[13:41] <snap-l> Unix version of DB2
[13:41] <snap-l> They managed to make it worse than real DB2 (which I actually liked with my limited dealings with it)
[13:42] <snap-l> for some reason we were stuck with a version that gave us 13 character table names
[13:42] <snap-l> and column names
[13:43] <brousch> 13 characters is enough for anyone
[13:43] <snap-l> and Chrysler had this really stupid hungarian-style notation for the column that took up a good chunk of that
[13:44] <snap-l> so instead of having an integer field for the number of times accessed called "num_of_times_accessed" (or something equivalent), you'd get i_numtimesacc
[13:46] <tjagoda> ohhhhhhh
[13:46] <snap-l> or something even worse than that
[13:46] <tjagoda> Blackberry playbook may be out on april 10
[13:46]  * tjagoda squees
[13:46] <snap-l> tjagoda: better camp out now
[13:46] <snap-l> be the first in line
[13:46] <brousch> ew
[13:46] <tjagoda> More portable than iPad
[13:46] <brousch> i'm more interested in the webos tablet
[13:46] <tjagoda> faster
[13:47] <tjagoda> greater battery life
[13:47] <tjagoda> And distinctly more Canadian. =P
[13:47] <brousch> the android compatibility might save t
[13:47] <snap-l> abler to leap taller buildings with a singler bound
[13:47] <rick_h_> morning, phew last full day of hacking
[13:47] <snap-l> rick_h_: When are you coming back from candyland?
[13:48] <rick_h_> tomorrow afternoon
[13:48] <snap-l> Ahh, cool
[13:49] <rick_h_> today is interview day, one guy went home, but working on getting the three today
[13:50] <snap-l> (yay)
[13:50] <snap-l> I know what I'll be doing tomorrow night. ;)
[13:50] <rick_h_> snap-l: http://twitter.com/#!/mpirnat/status/47874644446953473
[13:50] <rick_h_> and http://twitter.com/#!/mpirnat/status/47871256233639936
[13:51] <snap-l> rick_h_: HAH! I KNEW IT!
[13:53] <jrwren> snap-l: the naming conventions you mention is standard on every enterprise DB I've ever seen.
[13:53] <snap-l> jrwren: ye gads, they suck
[13:53] <jrwren> its mostly becuase all this stuff came out of the 70s and 80s and systems were very memory constrained
[13:54] <snap-l> Right, and if we were using a database from the 1980s, I'd completely understand. :)
[13:55] <snap-l> But 1980-2008 had some remarkable advances in memory technology. ;)
[13:55] <jrwren> but many enterprise systems did not.
[13:55] <jrwren> they grew, but they didn't migrate or fully rewrite
[13:56] <jrwren> many ERP systems still have cobol components
[13:56] <snap-l> coming to find out that Chrysler was not the innovator of many of the backward concepts that I've seen. ;)
[13:56] <snap-l> jrwren: Yeah, but this was a new system, running on newer hardware.
[13:57] <jrwren> new to them? newly purchased? or newly developed?
[13:57] <snap-l> new development
[13:57] <jrwren> well then they should fail.
[13:57] <snap-l> as in we were making the column names in conjunction with the DBA
[13:57] <jrwren> there is no excuse for that kind of development these days.
[13:57] <snap-l> I agree.
[13:57] <jrwren> oh, that was the first mistake, working with a DBA ;)
[13:58] <snap-l> jrwren: Was part of the process
[13:58] <snap-l> which was another bucket of fail
[13:58] <jrwren> that is another mistake, making that the process
[13:58] <jrwren> snap-l: who developed this?
[13:58] <snap-l> jrwren: It was like they created an assembly line for releasing code
[13:58] <snap-l> internal development, along with outsourcing
[13:59] <wolfger> snap-l: does Chrysler innovate any ideas, good or bad? I mean, other than the minivan...
[13:59] <jrwren> the "software factories" approach?
[13:59] <jrwren> snap-l: internal to whom?
[13:59] <snap-l> Not sure how to best explain this
[13:59] <snap-l> internal to chrysler.
[13:59] <jrwren> oh, it is chrysler? lolz.
[14:01] <snap-l> jrwren: I should tell you what the process was as I understood it next time we meet up. It was absolute hell
[14:02] <snap-l> It was designed more to keep code out than let folks fix things.
[14:03] <wolfger> well, code can be dangerous
[14:03] <wolfger> so of course we want to keep it out, ne?
[14:05] <snap-l> Well, and it was all because someone managed to bust DealerConnect to the point that Dieter Zetsche had to get involved.
[14:05] <snap-l> So, I kinda understand, but still, FieldConnect was nowhere near the Dealerships, yet it was treated with the same kid gloves.
[14:06] <snap-l> It was a fucked up process, regardless
[14:07] <snap-l> Contained all of the worst bits of waterfall development with hour-long meetings where everyone played the parts of amateur designer and English teacher
[14:08] <snap-l> I swear we had a 20 minute discussion over a fucking semicolon once.
[14:10] <wolfger> LOL
[14:11] <wolfger> Semi-colons are important; people should use them correctly.
[14:11] <brousch> what was the semicolon fucking?
[14:13] <snap-l> brousch: Apparently all that was good and holy with the world for the person who pressed the issue.
[14:13] <waldo323> great first line to see when entering a channel, heh
[14:37] <wolfger> Anybody going to Indy Linux Fest?
[14:37] <wolfger> http://www.indianalinux.org/cms/
[14:39] <tjagoda> nope
[14:41] <brousch> a couple of friends from the west side, but not me
[14:47] <snap-l> I'm not planning on it right now
[14:52] <snap-l> http://i.imgur.com/H64HK.jpg
[14:53] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFuMpYTyRjw
[15:00] <wolfger> Hey, does this page look like utter crap to anybody else? http://www.indianalinux.org/cms/schedule2011
[15:01] <snap-l> It looks like an 8-bit inspired artwork of the backslash
[15:01] <snap-l> But otherwise looks OK over here.
[15:01] <snap-l> Looks like any other crappy drupal site.
[15:03] <brousch> looks messy
[15:03] <wolfger> snap-l: I'm seeing a QR-code and the associated text right over the top of two of the schedule tables
[15:03] <wolfger> obliterating a chunk of schedule
[15:05] <brousch> that looks fine on mine
[15:05] <brousch> get a real browser
[15:05] <snap-l> Same here, though I'm using Chrome
[15:06] <snap-l> same here as in it looks OK
[15:06] <brousch> they don't care how it looks in ie
[15:10] <wolfger> brousch: I don't care how it looks in IE either
[15:10] <wolfger> FF 3.6.13 here
[15:11] <wolfger> Maybe ABP was interfering?
[15:12] <wolfger> Nope, that's not it
[15:12] <wolfger> There we go... Maximized the window.
[15:13] <wolfger> QR code box appears to be anchored to the right side of the browser window
[15:14] <wolfger> And the sucky thing is, I keep my browser at roughly full-size for a non-widescreen monitor
[15:14] <wolfger> they've designed a webpage for widescreen only.
[15:16] <snap-l> Just subscribed to the pycon miro feed. Ye gads, that's a lot of video.
[15:18] <snap-l> And this is why I love me some miro
[15:21] <wolfger> gonna take the free-licensed content and slap together a "best of Pycon" LoCoCast?
[15:23] <snap-l> wolfger: You've not been listening to lococast lately, have you? :)
[15:24] <wolfger> Not since Rick's "Day 1" episode
[15:24] <wolfger> which I suspect I didn't even hear all of
[15:28] <snap-l> There's two more on there
[15:36] <greg-g> what, the, hell, that is the stupidest way to make that schedule
[15:36] <tjagoda> Awwh
[15:37] <tjagoda> No more Ontario Linux Fest
[15:37] <tjagoda> =(
[15:37] <jrwren> why not?
[15:37] <tjagoda> Seems the organizer doesn't want to do it
[15:38] <tjagoda> http://onlinux.ca/node/11
[15:42] <jrwren> well, that is a good reason.
[15:42] <jrwren> someone else should step up... or let it die.
[15:44]  * wolfger looks at tjgoda, who professes to be Canadian these days...
[15:44] <wolfger> I know you know how to run a con, sir.
[15:52] <snap-l> Yeah, that happened last year
[15:53] <snap-l> Not sure if that still means that this year is still off
[15:53] <tjagoda> If I actually lived in ontario  I would do so
[15:53] <tjagoda> I, however, do not
[15:57] <brousch> so ontario shuts down and indianapolis starts up
[16:10] <wolfger> That's right. Support it, bitches. Don't let another con go down the tubes. :-)
[16:42] <rick_h_> snap-l: http://uploads.mitechie.com/lococast_pycon.png seems like pycon's been good to us :)
[16:44] <jcastro> nice!
[16:44] <rick_h_> jcastro: never ran into evan, tried to get amber to intro us so I could deliver your message
[16:44] <rick_h_> not sure if he's still down here
[16:45] <rick_h_> hopefully getting an interview with Michael Food a bit later so I'll ask him
[16:45] <jcastro> I've chatted with him since then
[16:45] <jcastro> thanks though
[16:45] <rick_h_> ah, gotcha
[16:46] <wolfger> rick_h_: Looking for an appointment with food?
[16:46] <rick_h_> sorry, foord
[16:46] <rick_h_> I'm approaching dead here, typing and 'making sense' will suffer :)
[16:47] <snap-l> Very cool!
[16:47] <rick_h_> yea, still not over 200 feed subscribers, but getting close
[16:47] <rick_h_> but a lot of downloads/traffic recently to the feed
[16:48] <wolfger> I have no idea if I'm a subscriber or not.
[16:48] <wolfger> Every time I open up Google Listen, I have to click on the Subscribe button again, and then open the menu and click Refresh to get new episodes.
[16:49] <rick_h_> ugh
[16:49] <wolfger> Listen is a cool concept, but I don't think it actually works very well.
[16:49] <rick_h_> someone else was having feed problems
[16:49] <rick_h_> try to delete /readd if you get some time
[16:49] <jrwren> Michael Foord is a MSFT luver. be sure to wash your hands. :p
[16:49] <rick_h_> wonder if it had a bump
[16:49] <rick_h_> jrwren: heh, as he uses his mac
[16:49] <rick_h_> but yea, big ironpython guy
[16:50] <rick_h_> will be interesting to chat
[16:50] <rick_h_> gah, upload faster, been saying 1hr left for last 50min
[16:53] <binbrain> I feel like there has to be a single cmd for this but can't find, want to gen new uuid and have fstab automatically updated to reflect, anybody?
[17:01] <snap-l> no idea
[17:20] <jrwren> uuidgen
[17:20] <jrwren> but doesn't the FS already have a  uuid?
[17:21] <jrwren> you can use uuidgen+tune2fs+sed to fix up your fstab with a new uuidgen, but I don't know of a built in
[17:22] <jrwren> oh, and maybe findfs so you know it worked correctly
[17:24] <binbrain> jrwren: that's the combo I was guessing I was going to have to, just seemed like an obvious thing, if I tune2fs with a new uuid, I want to have fstab updated
[17:26] <jrwren> i've done it manually a few times.
[17:26] <jrwren> only every time I add a disk
[17:27] <jrwren> and since I'm not a sysadmin, that has been about 5 times ;)
[17:28] <snap-l> squeekyhoho: @CnkoymAinjad277: OMG, I just told a spammer to go fuck a barbecue while dousing themselves with gasoline. What a coincidence! |01:26 PM Mar 16, 2011
[17:32] <snap-l> Nice... apparently there's a network of them that will spout shit if you post to them
[17:50] <Blazeix> I'm just catching up on the recent lococasts. One of my friends has been trying to run qtile for about year on ubuntu - he's never successfully set it up :(
[17:53] <brousch> it will take me 2 months to catch up on all the new lococasts
[18:02] <snap-l> Man, so much great content on the web.
[18:03] <snap-l> Going to need another hard drive soon for all of the pycon videos, and a game development youtube channel I found
[18:46] <binbrain> jwren: have a bootable hd that will be dd'd to mass produce other hds, need to be able to dd and then tell the new hd it needs to use a diff uuid, thanks for the help, uuidgen+tune2fs+sed is my answer
[18:52] <jrwren> why the different uuid?
[18:53] <jrwren> the disks will never be in the same server, so it doesn't matter.
[19:35] <rick_h_> jcastro: got a hold of Evan, cool guy
[19:36] <rick_h_> had a great discussion on Unity, he says I should get a hold of Neil Patel for an interview on unity/issues, sound right?
[19:36] <rick_h_> and poor guy is a penguins fan who's not heard any recent news of them or Crosby's status
[19:38] <jcastro> yeah
[19:38] <jcastro> but neil is super busy
[19:39] <jcastro> you might not get any unity folks for an interview, maybe DBO would be the best bet
[19:39] <jcastro> call in a favor from the old days
[19:45] <rick_h_> cool, I'll check in with you when I get back
[19:45] <rick_h_> well.
[19:45] <rick_h_> oops
[19:45] <rick_h_> typo
[19:46] <rick_h_> twitter down/giving strange error for anyone else?
[19:47] <_stink_> working here
[19:49] <rick_h_> http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/14/something-is-technically-wrong-with-twitter-com/
[19:49] <rick_h_> looks like not just me then
[19:51] <_stink_> 2010?
[19:52] <_stink_> :D
[19:52] <rick_h_> oh, whoops
[19:52] <rick_h_> http://status.twitter.com/post/3902683774/experiencing-elevated-error-rates
[19:52] <rick_h_> well that too
[19:53] <rick_h_> funny, I told google to only pull results from the last 24 hrs
[19:53] <rick_h_> and that still came up, wtf
[19:59] <binbrain> jrwren: good point but there are times during the validation of the process that they will have same disks hooked up at the same time
[20:03] <rick_h_> http://blip.tv/file/4884733 8:30 in there _stink_ Blazeix widox_
[20:06]  * snap-l checks to see if there isn't some secret tiling foo in there.
[20:07] <_stink_> video choppy for anyone else?
[20:08] <binbrain> my new MacBook Pro just came in the mail, can't wait to get Linux on this bad boy
[20:09] <snap-l> I can't seek in the video at all
[20:09] <brousch> why would you pay big bucks for a MBP only to put linux on it?
[20:09] <snap-l> dual boot?
[20:09] <brousch> VM
[20:10] <_stink_> rick_h_: haha, this is great
[20:10] <brousch> putting linux on apple hardware always has some missing/crappy drivers
[20:10] <_stink_> OH MAN i can hear rick_h_ laughing!
[20:11] <rick_h_> :)
[20:11] <gamerchick02> personally, if i had a MBP, i'd dual boot.
[20:12] <gamerchick02> i do now with windows 7 (don't hate me, please)
[20:12] <snap-l> Ah, I already downloaded this
[20:12] <snap-l> gamerchick02: I'd use a VM with a Macbook
[20:12] <gamerchick02> and the new MBP 13" looks beautiful
[20:12] <gamerchick02> why, snap-l? works better?
[20:13]  * gamerchick02 is curious, not confrontational.
[20:13] <rick_h_> dual boot you tend to live in one other other
[20:13] <rick_h_> I dual boot Win7 as well, but only go in to record
[20:13] <rick_h_> so I'm not getting better/learning any new features
[20:13] <snap-l> gamerchick02: becuase Linux can handle VMs better. ;)
[20:13] <rick_h_> whereas with a VM, especially in transparent mode, I might run apps/tools from both OS's at the same time
[20:13] <gamerchick02> ah
[20:15] <brousch> yes
[20:16] <brousch> i can run osx, winxp, and linux at the same time
[20:16] <snap-l> Help qtile grow exponentially, we only need two of you. :)
[20:17] <gamerchick02> nice.
[20:17] <snap-l> If I could get away with it, I'd put Windows in a VM on all of the machines that need it
[20:17] <snap-l> so then I could just pop into Windows when needed, and then do real work when it's not needed.
[20:17] <gamerchick02> brilliant, snap-l.
[20:17] <snap-l> and when my parents fuck up their Windows partition even more, I could just reload Windows from the last known good snapshot
[20:18] <gamerchick02> that's... slick. :)
[20:18] <snap-l> Man, rick_h_ projects. :)
[20:18] <rick_h_> ??
[20:18] <snap-l> pro-jects into all of the microphones
[20:18] <rick_h_> voice on those not good?
[20:18] <snap-l> No, they're great
[20:18] <rick_h_> damn, I gave them the good mic today
[20:18] <snap-l> but you're too big for one mic. ;)
[20:18] <rick_h_> and kept the cheap one for me
[20:19] <rick_h_> hoping it would help
[20:19] <snap-l> It's not bad, but there's bleed through
[20:19] <snap-l> on the pyramid one at least
[20:19] <rick_h_> damn, which one is this?
[20:19] <rick_h_> ugh, /me goes back to mic shopping
[20:20] <snap-l> And that's partially because Chris talks like a southerner.
[20:20] <rick_h_> yea, he's a kind of quiet guy
[20:21] <snap-l> and rick_h_ talks like a NORTHERNER
[20:21] <rick_h_> woo!
[20:21] <rick_h_> fight that southern heritage!
[20:22] <gamerchick02> uhm, i talk like a Northerner. i think. i'm not from the "south"
[20:22] <gamerchick02> middle, really
[20:27] <snap-l> I'm using Autoduck an awful lot. ;)
[20:28] <rick_h_> damn
[20:28] <rick_h_> was really hoping wouldn't be needed
[20:28] <rick_h_> it sounds awful as the tracks jump in/out
[20:28] <snap-l> no worries
[20:28]  * rick_h_ hangs head in shame
[20:29] <snap-l> It's not as bad as you might think
[20:29] <snap-l> I lower the volume a bit.
[21:31] <jcastro> snap-l: what was the name of that rush documentary?
[21:42] <snap-l> Beyond the Lighted Stage
[21:42] <snap-l> jcastro: ^
[21:43] <rick_h_> https://github.com/bitprophet/fabric/compare/b2cd73cf77...0950b50bb6  woot
[21:56] <binbrain> awesome rick_h_ whatcha do for fabric?
[21:56] <rick_h_> sprinted with them
[21:56] <rick_h_> created 6 branches of tickets stuff for it
[21:56] <rick_h_> so looks like a couple got merged in so far
[21:56] <rick_h_> couple were just creating branches from people's patches, couple were bug fixes I submitted, and one was a big change to the way the tests ran
[21:57] <rick_h_> wrote a new decoarator that helped mock out part of the system for tests
[21:57] <snap-l> rick_h_: Holy shit that's awesome!
[21:59] <rick_h_> https://github.com/mitechie/fabric/commit/76f7f86a72af4681bc653c9ea56ed6bb62685238 was the biggest one
[22:42] <greg-g> PORK CHOP SANDWICHES!