[05:02] <nnonix> Well there are certainly more people in here since I visited last.
[06:02] <seidos> hi Guest6587 :)
[06:03] <Guest6587> hi
[06:03] <seidos> greetings ubuntu brethren.  I'm visiting from California, i hope that's okay.
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> I suppose we can put up with you for a while :P
[06:05] <seidos> i was talking to Guest6587 in #ubuntu-beginners.  he's in Minneapolis.  he's having an issue with a livecd that's blank.  Nvidia 6150LE integrated graphics.
[06:05] <seidos> i thought it would be cool to hook him up with you guys or a LUG or something
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> and by this you mean his screen is blank after booting it, not that the CD itself is blank?
[06:06] <seidos> indeed, screen is blank.
[06:07] <seidos> sorry, i should be reading what i type out loud
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> Tried the "Safe Graphics" mode?
[06:07] <seidos> i didn't know there was a safe graphics mode from a livecd
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> Indeed there is.
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> I think it's one of the function keys on the first screen.
[06:08] <seidos> never used it.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD doesn't have anything on a "safe graphics mode"
[06:09] <seidos> Guest6587: did you catch that?  apparently there's a safe graphics mode from a livecd/liveusb you can try
[06:09] <Guest6587> I think I heard something about holding the left shift key
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[06:10] <seidos> Guest6587: i think it's F4
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> Guest6587: That's for picking a kernel in grub on an installed system - I don't think it applies to anything on the LiveCD.
[06:10] <seidos> thanks tonyyarusso
[06:13] <Guest6587> Hmm... the menu doesn't look like in the screenshots when I boot up and F4 doesn't do anything
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> If you have just the blank screen with the tiny icons of a keyboard and a person, press enter once.
[06:16] <seidos> Guest6587: what version?  10.04 64bit?
[06:17] <Guest6587>  10.04 32bit
[06:17] <seidos> i'm installing virtualbox so i can try it out
[06:17] <seidos> ah, i better start downloading that iso.  i only have 32bit 10.10
[06:18] <Guest6587> I get a menu like in the screenshots, but it doesn't have the Fn options on the bottom and the logo is different
[06:18] <seidos> i'll download 10.04.2 32bit desktop and see what it looks like in virtualbox
[06:20]  * tonyyarusso downloads too
[06:21] <seidos> 11 min on torrents here
[06:21] <Guest6587> trying 10.10 64bit next
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Ah, it does just start booting right away.  Interesting.
[06:22] <seidos> dang, what kind of connections do you guys have out in MN o_o
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> hehe
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> seidos: Local mirror.
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> So, gigabit.
[06:22] <Guest6587> I just got a shiny new modem too
[06:23] <seidos> profane rouge :|
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> Guest6587: Okay, actually the holding the shift key advice was correct as it turns out.  Then you'll select your language.  Now I just have to find where they moved this option to.
[06:27] <Guest6587> oh crap, this guy told me to do exactly this stuff in #ubuntu-installer but that was before I performed a voodoo ritual and got the screen to keep working in the menu and not immediately go blank
[06:28] <Guest6587> and then I logged out and lost the chat
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> Guest6587: Found it.  Press F6 ("Other options") and select "nomodeset".  Then Esc to get out of that menu, and Enter to boot.
[06:29] <Guest6587> ah, yes that was it
[06:36] <Guest6587> geez, creating the install USB is taking forever
[06:45] <seidos> thanks tonyyarusso, this was cool.  i should see about hooking up beginners to their ubuntu user group's more often
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> Indeed :)
[06:46] <seidos> tonyyarusso: are you in the ubuntu beginners team?  i know i've seen your name around.  perhaps in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> seidos: mostly -ot.  I've done some stuff with -beginners, but not lately.
[06:47] <seidos> tonyyarusso: right on
[06:47] <seidos> well i gotta' go to bed guys.  hopefully i'll see you around
[06:50] <Guest6587> Whelp, the menu I get looks like this: http://www.thomasvjames.com/blog/uploads/20100609004.jpg
[06:51] <Guest6587> ...except where it says netbook
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> Guest6587: are you sure that's 10.04?
[06:52] <Guest6587> supposed to be 10.10 64bit
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> what's under the advanced options stuff?
[06:55] <Guest6587> just an option to go back
[06:58] <Guest6587> there is a terminal like thing with some menus I can bring up by selecting Help, but it automatically boots just a second after I do
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> hmm
[07:05] <Guest6587> I think it's from when I mistakenly used the alternate install .iso: the same menu came up then, but I just redid the USB with the regular download so I don't see how it's carrying over
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> oh, that could be
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> Might be that your flashing just didn't work or something.
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> Anyway, I have to go to bed, so I'm afraid we'll have to follow up some other day.
[07:09] <Guest6587> yeah
[07:10] <Guest6587> good night and thanks for your help
[07:38] <Guest6587> SUCCESS!
[18:08] <damian> Is there a way to get a usb's serial number and its block device in /dev? "lsusb -v" is unreliable (it says the connection is timing out), the files in /proc/scsi/usb-storage/ don't mention the device and the numbers don't seem to mean anything.
[18:09] <damian> hdparm doesn't work on usbs
[18:12] <damian> I have three usbs that look exactly and I can have them connected all at once I want some way to identify each of them. Naming partitions worked until I started playing too much
[18:14] <damian> Does anyone know how disk utility gets the serial number?
[21:06] <damian> I want to setup a server in the future for an installfest and frankly, its a hell of a lot easier to use a gui. Can I set everything up in a graphical session, do CTRL+ALT+F1 (switch to TTY1), then use "kill -s STOP $(pidof Xorg)"?
[21:07] <damian> killing Xorg outright kills the session and everything spawned from it.