=== excited3 is now known as excid3|mbparty-h === excid3|mbparty-h is now known as excid3|party-hat [00:30] what is that free work order tracking software RI? [00:48] cyberanger: may send a noob over here in a few nick is smp_ === excid3|mbp is now known as excid3|party-hat [12:17] wrst u here [12:34] anyone here [12:39] linuxman410: yes [12:39] hey let me ask u a question [12:40] ok [12:40] do u know vschune [12:40] maybe it is vychune [12:41] I'm aware of the nick [12:41] never met in person [12:41] i did not they live in mephis [12:43] i sent them a computer for the person's mom [12:43] I was thinking Jackson, TN, but yeah, kinda far from us [12:44] idk why I was thinking Jackson [12:44] but it looks like ny their email they have a computer shop [12:45] i paid for the shipping and ship them one cause they ask me too' [12:48] for what I'm aware, he's in college, class of 2012 computer specialist [12:48] cyberanger what i am trying to say is i hope they really needed computer [12:48] not an actual shop [12:48] well, yeah, I would too [12:49] better to help those in need [12:49] because i try to give them to those in need only [12:51] i mean i help others too but i expect them to pay their own shipping [12:53] yeah, I understand [12:55] that is the very first time i have paid shipping to ship one to someone i pay it all the time to have them shipped to me [12:57] I'm not aware of anyone being outright dishonest here, and an email address is cheap enough, hard to judge on that [13:04] hope there is never a 1st [13:05] me either [13:06] of what I'm aware, he's a college student, and a fair bit of them work on the side (their bedroom being the "shop") or in a shop, but their wages only offset tution, books and so on [13:07] hence why I'd try not reading into a domain or email address too much [13:07] ok it sounds like it was alright then === Xpistos1 is now known as Xpistos [13:09] (some of my freelance work started out when I was in college, two years in 2008, some ways my networking and linux knowledge (outside classes) has paid off more than the degree so far) [13:10] (granted, the degree isn't finished, but the certifications seem to be worth more than the degree itself) [13:11] cyberanger i have never been to any tech school but i can fix just about any computer and figured out linux pretty good [13:11] and i have been a tech for over 20 years [13:12] yeah, and I like that better myself (more out of the box critical thinking it seems, compared to degrees and certs) [13:13] but nowadays people want experince, education, and with the recession, they can afford to take their pick [13:13] so I can't blame someone for trying a degree too [13:14] the people who i work on their computers like me better and i have no degrees [13:14] praise the loyal customers, I agree [13:14] learn by doing [13:15] more my thing too [13:15] when i got my job at a computer long time ago before it shut down they choose me over the other guy who had degrees cause i knew more [13:15] store [13:16] and that's shifted some, when you've got to have work exp. for mcdonalds, it'll be hell [13:16] but unfortunately, we're not too far away from that [13:16] i work in a thrift store [13:17] I'm just doing side jobs atm [13:17] the local computer store sends people to me cause they do not know linux or mac [13:18] trying to get something stable for a change [13:18] that's nice [13:19] seems I didn't auto-id after that little netsplit [13:20] cyberanger it happens [13:21] oh of course, and I've got high spirits, never dealt with anyone I regret [13:21] o/ [13:21] i was talking about auto-id [13:22] linuxman410: missed the package because my phone came the same day [13:22] oh, yeah, that too [13:22] it should be here today [13:22] vychune they did not leave it [13:23] said they needed signed auth [13:23] it's up to the driver to leave it, unless it's signature-required, then they can't [13:24] i do not know why everything i order they leave on porch [13:24] and here they will not leave it anymore [13:24] linuxman410: including items needing a signature? [13:24] they must sign it their selfs cause they leave it [13:24] thats what i said this is my first one [13:25] ah, I chewed them out for leaving an item on my doorstep, from now on they leave it at the apartment office [13:25] vychune i did not sent it requring signature [13:26] they tried to leave my T-Mobile G2 there, had the manager sign it, I was pissed [13:26] a 400 dollar phone, and little keeping it there [13:26] linuxman410: did you insure it? they'll require a sig. for insurance reasons [13:27] cyberanger it comes with insurance automaticly [13:27] might be because its a comp [13:27] linuxman410: and you didn't raise the value [13:27] vychune: they shouldn't know that [13:27] no [13:28] but a form mixup is possible [13:28] idk [13:28] and the driver has discrection to raise service [13:28] and some do that to prevent leaving a package [13:29] well maybe the driver did not think it was safe to leave it is his call [13:29] yeah, and I've chewed UPS out for what I percived as a bad call [13:30] such as a 400 dollar smartphone, the office isn't apt 2110 (not my real apt no.) [13:30] it required MY signature [13:31] so nowadays they've been doing a better job [13:31] and I know the drivers for my route, and they do agree [13:32] DHL got it worse, leaving a DSL modem just on the door, ignoring the signature requirement [13:33] lol [13:35] not saying I don't trust the managers, or anyone else for that matter, just that some things shouldn't be tempted [13:36] ikr [13:36] and those examples were the worst, they violated their own policies [13:37] LOL [13:40] has anyone been having flash issues lately? [13:40] Xpistos: yes, I have many issues with flash [13:40] more than usual too [13:41] what are you having happen> [13:42] flash has been OK for me.. 32 or 64 bit? [13:43] i have on my mac [13:46] wrst: OK, or KO [13:46] Received a CTCP VERSION from frigg: whats this mean [13:47] frigg is asking about your client [13:47] frigg is a freenode bot [13:47] no harm [13:47] xchat 2.8.8 Linux 2.6.32-27-generic [i686/1.99GHz] [13:48] that's all it sends [13:48] ohhhhhhh [13:48] ok [13:48] cool [13:48] CTCP, Client to Client Protocall [13:49] leran something everyday huh lol [13:51] how do you do that? [13:51] nevermind ill google it [13:51] /ctcp vychune ping [13:51] /ctcp vychune version [13:51] oh [13:51] /ctcp vychune time [13:52] ok cool [13:52] work time gotta jet lol [13:52] lata and thanks [13:55] cyberanger actually OK as long as not using the 32 bit wrapper for 64 bit [13:57] her flash is 64bit and it stops working [13:57] IF i go in and reinstall flash it works [13:59] xpistos is it actually 64 or the packaged one in the wrapper? I suspect its wrapped I would manually install from adobe [14:00] I think it is the 64 [14:00] but I will check [14:01] I don't think even 10.10 has true 64 bit as it was beta when. released [14:04] I think it is a beta but it has been there since last year [14:05] yeah they pulled it now its back I would still uninstall and manually install if haaving issues its simple to do [14:17] Xpistos: also, I remove .macromedia and .adobe [14:17] roger [14:18] working on a joomla thing, but I will hollar at you soon [14:18] seems to fix my current issue (on youtube mainly, but not all, I'll play a video fine, then any other video has a red tint) [14:18] oddly that doesn't seem to affect hulu [14:55] anyone here on AT&T, get ready to hate your ISP [14:55] UBB has left canada for the states, this isn't good [15:25] cyberanger: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/monitoring/netquakes/ [15:51] hey wrst, what are you putting in to remove that stuff like flash* and Shockwave* ? [15:53] okay I uinstalled flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree and mint-flashplugin-x64 and then reinstall the mint-flashplugin-x64 and it appears to be working. we will see how long it lasts. [16:03] sounds like you had a lot of flash plugins xpistos [16:04] I think I did it when i installed hulu desktop on her computer [16:05] yeah but if that doesn't get it a ma ual install should fix you up [16:11] Xpistos: I'm the one removing $HOME/.macromedia/ and $HOME/.adobe [16:12] oh [16:12] I use find $HOME/.macromedia/ -type f | xargs shred -fuvz [16:12] and find $HOME/.adobe/ -type f | xargs shred -fuvz [16:13] but you don't need to shred the files [16:13] just rm -Rf $HOME/.macromedia/ && rm -Rf $HOME/.adobe/ [16:14] (I actually have a bash script I use for it, short 5 liner [16:14] starts firefox, then waits, firefox closes, shreds all files, removes the directories) [16:16] I first did that for privacy reasons (I hate supercookies) but after realizing that it might be equally useful for my issue, gave it another try again === Xpistos is now known as Xpistos-lunch === Xpistos-lunch is now known as Xpistos [20:09] chris4585: http://imagebin.org/143409 do you remember how to fix this ? [20:14] why would you want to program in c# rather than c++ ? [20:14] anybody ever program with the .net framework using 'mono'? [20:17] no [20:25] electricus: that sounds as fun as eating cardboard [20:26] idk about c# vs c++ however, developers preference perhaps [20:27] in laymans terminology (conceptually speaking) what is the mono project attempting to accomplish? [20:28] draw m$ people to linux and still code in .net? [20:28] or allow open source folk to code in .net ? [20:39] linuxman410: ping [20:40] hey how are ya [20:40] not good [20:40] why is that [20:40] do you have the tracking number for the package [20:40] it is in my wive's car [20:41] i can get tonite about 11 [20:41] dang lol [20:41] they may have lost the package [20:42] well sometimes they deliver late they have run here as late as 6 o clock [20:43] vychune346 i called them one time and they said they delivered up to 7 pm [20:43] the infonotice i left is gone they came [20:44] i can drive to my wifes work and get tracking number take about 5 minutes be right back [20:44] oh ok wow um thanks [20:45] youre really cool dude [20:52] electricus: both [20:52] o/ [20:52] my understanding is mono is serving both of those goals at least [20:56] i wonder how many developers are actually developing anything with mono. i went on the website and there is virtually no documnentation .. just placeholders for future docs [20:57] vychune346 ups website says out for delivery by end of day [20:57] i ran the mono ide.. it looks pretty nice.. and pasted some c# code into it and it highlighted it pretty nice.. that's my extent [20:57] oh ok [20:58] i can email you tracking number if u want it [20:58] i don't personally wouldn't invest much energy into any ms languages [20:58] could u please? [20:59] i think postal service hate me lol [20:59] *services [21:02] vychune346 tracking number i just emailed it to you it said yesterday they tried delivery at 2:56 pm [21:02] already got it [21:02] your the worlds greatest [21:02] tracking number or package [21:04] both they just left it [21:04] brb going to get it [21:04] ok cool [21:10] manager's doing a retun gotta wait(his sleezy a**) [21:10] ok [21:11] 500 for a tax return [21:11] vychune346 hope u like it it was one of my nicer boxes [21:11] he out his mind [21:12] i hope i do to lol [21:12] vychune346 that is how much he charges to do taxes [21:13] he charged someone that. along with 1000 [21:13] out his mind [21:13] wow that is high [21:14] brb he has a stun gun and he crazy [21:21] vychune346 u back yet [21:31] cyberanger u here [21:31] wrst u here [21:31] barely [21:32] hey i got a question for you whatever happen to exodus_ms [21:33] i mean he just vanished in thin air used to come in here all the time [21:34] vychune346 still not back [21:39] * vychune346 turns on comp *dusty cloud* [21:41] linuxman410: its not turning on the monitor [21:42] it should i tested it before it left [21:42] linuxman410 he has had some life issues does drop by on occassion [21:43] rephase that plz lol [21:43] vychune346 is the video cable connected good [21:44] yes sir [21:44] im sure im find the prolem [21:45] or sue ups :D [21:45] does it have onboard video or a video card in slot [21:46] vychune346 i would open it up and see if anything got knocked loose [21:46] onborad [21:46] the ram got knocked loose and so did the hotsync fan [21:46] maybe the memory got jarred out of socket alittle [21:47] it fell out lol [21:47] vychune346 put the ram back in and it will probably boot up [21:48] its booting up [21:48] its not activating the screen [21:48] ok cool ups is ruff on a pc [21:48] everything else is looking goooooooooooooooood [21:48] vychune346: do you hear a beep when the computer turns on? [21:49] no beep code [21:49] vychune346 it was working fine when it left [21:49] im sure somethings just loose [21:50] im do something when i get home im not worried [21:50] what about switch on back that says 110 and 240 how is it set [21:50] on the power supply [21:50] hey linuxman410 don't give away that secret! [21:51] none of the youngins' know about that ;) [21:51] idk im tell you when i get back home i came back to work [21:51] shut up netritious [21:51] ok if everything else fails reset the bios [21:51] k now you lost me lol [21:52] no vychune346 I will never do that lol [21:52] and make sure big stick of ram is it first slot [21:52] oops [21:52] i put the 128 in first [21:53] 256 needs to go first i have run into that alot [21:53] whoopsies [21:53] linuxman410: SDARAM? [21:53] and make sure it snaps good [21:53] *SDRAM [21:54] yeah ddr [21:54] how much can it take/ [21:54] ? [21:54] * vychune346 pulls out tb card [21:55] with ddr sometimes it feels like in snaps in when it is backwards so check that [21:55] oh [21:55] yeah [21:55] i think it will hold a gig 2 512 sticks [21:56] it has 4 slots but thats it? [21:57] cool though ok going home brb [21:57] oh it may hold more i was thinking about another board if it has 4 slots [21:57] ok brbv [21:57] ok brb [22:04] backlater [22:21] o/ [22:22] still not working right [22:22] vychune it still will not post to monitor [22:23] right [22:23] everything else comes on [22:23] vychune are u near the computer [22:23] yes [22:23] turn it off [22:23] its off [22:24] there is a little jumper near the battery you se it [22:24] red? [22:24] yes move it to last 2 pins [22:25] lost me [22:25] there is only 3 pins [22:25] i see it says 115 [22:26] that right? [22:26] right next to silver battery ther is a jumper maybe black or red [22:26] move it to last 2 pins [22:27] the cmos? [22:28] that is the cmos jumper [22:29] when u move it to last 2 pins hit power button nothing should come on at all [22:30] im lost [22:30] just trust me ok [22:30] i do [22:30] cant find it [22:30] do you see silver battery [22:31] yes [22:31] it is right beside it toward the inside [22:31] there are to spaces [22:32] ok was memory in right [22:33] yes [22:33] are ide cables in board and in drives good [22:34] yep [22:34] and the 256 is first [22:34] first slot in front of processor [22:37] closest to the hotsync? [22:37] closest to processor fan [22:37] yep [22:38] did you check the red switch on back [22:39] yes [22:39] found the prolem [22:39] vychune what is problem [22:39] you know the litte nut that screws in for the screw on VGA cables [22:39] its loose [22:40] i knew it was somethng simple [22:40] :D [22:40] so vga not getting good connection is the vga going all they way in [22:41] it sure felt like it [22:41] had this happen before so i got it [22:41] let me know what happens [22:42] give me just a min [22:42] ok [22:42] dont worry your baby is safe with me [22:42] lol [22:42] * vychune revs a chiansaw [22:44] not funny? [22:45] vychune what not funny [22:47] nevermind [22:47] no cigar [22:47] do me a favor turn off computer and take out stick of 128 [22:48] it out [22:48] now try it [22:50] anything [22:53] vychune did it power up [22:53] yes [22:53] flaky piece of memory [22:53] no screen still [22:54] still no screen [22:54] does it show a startup screen [22:54] no [22:54] same as before everythings fine i just cant see [22:55] vychune turn off computer and move 256 to other slot [22:55] it has to be something simple [22:57] i mean it is usually memory not seated good [22:57] and usually when you resit it it should work [22:58] nothing yet [22:59] still nothing [22:59] shuting off [22:59] vychune i know this is silly question but when u hooked up did you bend a pin in your monitor cord [23:00] not probelm [23:00] m using the same cord for this comp [23:01] so no beeps and fans run but nothing on screen [23:01] right [23:02] vychune when i had it i t would not boot on cont of memory in wrong once but you said it is in right now [23:02] cont of memory? [23:03] vychune the notch below the memory is lined up under both sticks [23:04] yes [23:05] and still nothing i do not get it did you wiggle vga cable when hooked up to see if vga connection on board has short [23:06] vychune did you say something else was loose when you opened it up [23:07] fan [23:07] horsync [23:07] processor fan [23:07] yes [23:08] did we fire it up before we found out that [23:08] no [23:08] ok that is good is processor fan on good now [23:09] snug as a bug [23:09] vychune what model compaq is that [23:10] Compaq Presario SR1703WM Desktop PC [23:16] putting in a video card [23:17] nevermind [23:17] i looked on line for a picture of mainboard could not find one [23:18] do you have a pci video card [23:18] yes [23:18] wont fit [23:18] too big [23:18] yes [23:18] why would a pci be too big for the slot [23:19] notches dont fit [23:20] so a PCI-Express video card not PCI? [23:21] so it only has one slot on the board [23:21] one black one yes [23:22] vychune what color r the rest of them [23:22] off white [23:22] those are pci [23:24] vychune the off white slots are pci [23:24] ok [23:24] vychune see if the card fits one of them [23:27] nope [23:28] vychune are u sure that is a pci or a agp card how many notches [23:29] if the computer doesn't beep then the computer is not going to boot, it's really that simple. It may power up, but it won't boot if it doesn't pass Power On Self Test (POST). POST requires working cpu, mobo, memory, power *and* video in order to pass. If there was a loose heatsink and fan inside the case while in transit it probably beat the internal components to hell and back. [23:29] linux: 3 [23:30] not linuxman410's fault of course, just saying you may be wasting your time [23:30] but every thing looks fine [23:30] ups may have dropped it cause it was working perfect when it left [23:31] I had a guy come into my shop once with a pc to fix that was shipped via UPS...is the only reason I know about it [23:31] i think so [23:32] hey is that jumper blue linuxman? [23:33] i figured with the bubblewrap would have protected it [23:33] think you used enogh packing peanuts lol [23:33] does it have 3 pins and it is on 2 of them [23:34] no [23:34] the jumper i am talking about is usually next to silver battery on pins 2 and 3 [23:35] brb mom call [23:35]