[02:06] <RAOF> Ooooh. I need ___tls_get_addr rather than __tls_get_addr!
[03:47]  * RAOF likes that mesa's redefinition of assembler syntax lies in ass yntax.h
[06:58] <RAOF> WOOOO!  IA32 win.
[06:58] <RAOF> Ish.
[11:29] <tjaalton> RAOF: hey, when do we start breaking natty again by uploading 1.10 final & the rebuilds?
[11:38] <RAOF> tjaalton: Tomorrow, I think.
[11:38] <tjaalton> RAOF: alright
[11:39] <RAOF> Although if you wanted to do it while I sleep that would also be ok :).
[11:39] <RAOF> Coordinating with bryceh, of course.
[11:40] <tjaalton> ok, either is fine
[11:42]  * RAOF goes to sleep
[14:11] <ara> hello bryceh
[16:50] <cnd> tjaalton, got a moment to help me out with another upload?
[16:50] <cnd> or bryce?
[16:59] <tjaalton> cnd: yep
[16:59] <cnd> tjaalton, so the package is a new package
[16:59] <cnd> it's got an FFe
[16:59] <cnd> and it's only for universe
[17:00] <cnd> I'm an ubuntu dev, and you're an ubuntu dev, so I was wondering if we needed to go through revu?
[17:00] <cnd> the two of us satisfy the 2 ubuntu dev sponsorship rule
[17:00] <tjaalton> heh
[17:00] <cnd> and the wiki page says motus can upload directly
[17:00] <tjaalton> well, let me review it anyway :)
[17:01] <cnd> ok
[17:01] <cnd> tjaalton, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733266
[17:01] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 733266 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] empcommand (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[17:01] <cnd> tjaalton, there's 6 more games just like these
[17:02] <cnd> but they haven't received FFe approval yet
[17:02] <cnd> that's why I want to skip revu if possible
[17:02] <cnd> less paperwork
[17:02] <cnd> but don't feel you need to review them all
[17:03] <cnd> I've also mentored Oxullo, so the packaging is up to my standards :)
[17:03] <tjaalton> debian/copyright is probably the most important thing to get right before an upload, after it builds of course
[17:03] <cnd> I've been reviewing his work as we go
[17:03] <cnd> yeah, they're in dep5 format and should be correct
[17:04] <tjaalton> the source package has .pc directory in it, should be removed on clean :)
[17:04] <tjaalton> i guess
[17:04] <cnd> tjaalton, I assume it was created with bzr bd -S
[17:05] <cnd> but I'll see what's up with it
[17:05] <tjaalton> that's alright
[17:07] <cnd> hmm, not sure how he got a .pc in there
[17:07] <cnd> I'll have to ask him what he did
[17:07] <tjaalton> looks fine otherwise, and that doesn't make the package useless, so I'll upload it
[17:07] <tjaalton> that=.pc
[17:08] <cnd> tjaalton, are you sure that's not because you ran dpkg-source -x?
[17:08] <cnd> cause there's no .pc in the debian.tar.gzr
[17:08] <cnd> nor in the orig.tar.gz
[17:08] <tjaalton> ah, maybe it's the new source format that does it, on extract
[17:11] <cnd> tjaalton, it's interesting that it does that, even where there are no patches
[17:11] <tjaalton> right
[17:11] <cnd> tjaalton, thanks for the upload :
[17:11] <cnd> :)
[17:12] <tjaalton> np, had to take a break from playing rb: beatles anyway :)
[17:13] <cnd> heh
[17:46] <Sarvatt> usr/lib/nvidia-current
[17:46] <Sarvatt> usr/lib/nvidia-current/libGL.so.1
[17:46] <Sarvatt> usr/lib/nvidia-current/libnvidia-glcore.so.270.30
[17:46] <Sarvatt> usr/lib/nvidia-current/tls
[17:46] <Sarvatt> usr/lib/nvidia-current/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.270.30
[17:46] <Sarvatt> seriously? libGL in my initrd?
[17:47] <Sarvatt> thanks cairo-gl
[17:49] <brobostigon> good afternoon everyone,
[17:50] <brobostigon> where is the right place for me to ask about trying wayland on natty?
[17:52] <brobostigon> an if already existing DE's, like gnome-shell will work with it,or not.please.
[20:04] <jcastro> jibel_: ok so I've posted on nvidia's linux forums, phoronix just ran it, just waiting on OMG. That outta be enough I hope. :)
[20:05] <jcristau> tjaalton: i think with 3.0 (quilt), dpkg-source creates .pc on unpack
[20:27] <tjaalton> jcristau: yeah, and on repack it's dropped
[20:30] <lesshaste> hi
[20:30] <lesshaste> I get this weird font/screen corruption using the radeon driver.. has anyone else seen anything like it? http://img857.imageshack.us/f/screenshot1p.png/
[20:32] <lesshaste> oh and I get [263922.948625] [drm:radeon_cs_ioctl] *ERROR* Failed to parse relocation -12!
[20:32] <lesshaste> I just saw that
[20:32] <lesshaste> lots of them
[20:32] <brobostigon> would it be possible to do multi-monitor, with two graphics cards, of totally different kinds and makes?
[20:34] <bryceh> brobostigon, no
[20:34] <bryceh> brobostigon, used to be you could do that with Xinerama but not anymore (for now)
[20:35] <bryceh> brobostigon, you can do it with two NVIDIA cards both running -nvidia
[20:35] <bryceh> there are some other misc. oddball combos of cards/drivers that would work, but in general with open source drivers and common kinds of cards, no upstream doesn't support that
[20:36] <brobostigon> bryceh: sosame driver? whether intel,nvidia or ati?
[20:36] <bryceh> brobostigon, no only -nvidia
[20:37] <bryceh> possibly -fglrx/-fglrx, I haven't tested that
[20:37] <bryceh> but definitely not intel or ati
[20:37] <bryceh> and mixing drivers is almost guaranteed to fail
[20:37] <brobostigon> bryceh: ah, i see, ihtink i understand.
[20:40] <brobostigon> bryceh: thankyou,
[20:40] <bryceh> brobostigon, your welcome
[20:41] <lesshaste> anyone know if there is an ubuntu bug report for this?
[20:42] <brobostigon> bryceh: that means,my plan and idea,might work
[20:42] <bryceh> lesshaste, for what?
[20:42] <lesshaste> I get this weird font/screen corruption using the radeon driver.. has anyone else seen anything like it? http://img857.imageshack.us/f/screenshot1p.png/
[20:43] <lesshaste> oh and I get [263922.948625] [drm:radeon_cs_ioctl] *ERROR* Failed to parse relocation -12!
[20:43] <bryceh> lesshaste, is that natty?
[20:43] <lesshaste> bryceh: lucid
[20:43] <bryceh> oh no idea then
[20:43] <lesshaste> bryceh: it's a regression I think
[20:43] <lesshaste> it used not to do this
[20:43] <lesshaste> the computer is not new
[20:44] <bryceh> we've not done any X changes to lucid in a long time afaik
[20:44] <bryceh> lesshaste, did your kernel get updated maybe?
[20:44] <bryceh> could be a drm bug
[20:44] <lesshaste> bryceh: right but the radeon driver is broken relative to older ubuntu distros
[20:44] <lesshaste> bryceh: ah yes
[20:44] <lesshaste> bryceh: it did
[20:44] <lesshaste> a few times actually for lucid
[20:45] <bryceh> sure, yeah radeon frequently has graphics mess ups like this, I could identify the driver just looking at the screenshot ;-)
[20:45] <lesshaste> what's my best plan?
[20:45] <bryceh> hmm
[20:45] <lesshaste> they want me to upgrade the kernel at #radeon
[20:45] <bryceh> sure
[20:46] <bryceh> yeah, if it were me I'd be looking at changing kernel versions too
[20:46] <bryceh> if you do think it's a regression though, I'd go backwards
[20:46] <bryceh> look for an earlier version where you *can't* reproduce it
[20:47] <bryceh> lesshaste, also there is a lucid backport of the maverick kernel.  That could be worth a test too
[20:47] <lesshaste> oh yes
[20:47] <lesshaste> that sounds perfect
[20:47] <bryceh> another idea is I'd fiddle with switching on or off KMS
[20:48] <bryceh> I think we shipped -ati with kms on by default in lucid, so boot kernel with radeon.modeset=0 or something like that
[20:48] <bryceh> or if I'm wrong, then radeon.modeset=1 ;-)
[20:49] <bryceh> fwiw, #radeon is probably not going to be of much help for lucid bugs; http://askubuntu.com would be a better support channel
[20:49] <lesshaste> oh.. they have gone all modern! :)
[20:49] <lesshaste> thanks I didn't know about that
[20:53] <bryceh> lesshaste, your welcome, good luck
[20:53] <lesshaste> I think I need it :)
[20:53] <lesshaste> installing backports and proposed everything...
[20:54] <bryceh> lesshaste, fwiw, -ati on maverick was pretty stable; on natty it's stable but I see a few graphics bugs here and there
[20:54] <lesshaste> it was ok on jaunty too :)
[20:54] <lesshaste> something just went wrong
[20:54] <lesshaste> hardy was great ! :)
[20:55] <bryceh> yeah that was pre-KMS
[21:00] <lesshaste> hi again bryceh :)
[21:00] <lesshaste> still totally screwed up
[21:00] <lesshaste> 2.6.32-30-generic #59-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 21:30:21 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:01] <lesshaste> [  220.961057] [drm:radeon_cs_ioctl] *ERROR* Failed to parse relocation -12!
[21:01] <lesshaste> appears repeatedly in dmesg
[21:01] <lesshaste> Build Date: 08 March 2011  08:22:50AM
[21:01] <lesshaste> xorg-server 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.6 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support) 
[21:12] <sandraw> hi i need some help with this: http://pastebin.com/k9davXre
[21:15] <sandraw> im having problems building tslib on natty
[21:32] <sandraw> it is linked to this bug: Launchpad bug 714353 in xf86-input-tslib (Ubuntu) "Does not support Input ABI 12: FTBFS against Xserver 1.10" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714353
[21:32] <ubot4`> sandraw: Bug 714353 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/714353 is private
[21:32] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 714353 in xf86-input-tslib (Ubuntu) "Does not support Input ABI 12: FTBFS against Xserver 1.10 (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [High,Confirmed]
[23:01] <lesshaste> how do I use xorg-edges to update the kernel?