=== facundobatista_ is now known as facundobatista [08:02] morning [08:11] morning mandel [08:11] wow that's early :) [08:11] fagan: morning :) [08:11] hehe [08:12] * fagan is just about to get some coffee and get started :) [08:13] fagan: sure, no worries, I need to go through all the emails, so take your time [08:14] breakfast is the most important meal, or so they say :P [08:19] yeah that first coffee in the morning helps a lot [08:30] hello mandel [08:30] duanedesign: morning! [08:30] duanedesign: how is everything? [08:31] mandel: pot of coffee made, so when ever you want to go ahead is good with me I have all day so it doesnt really matter :) [08:32] fagan: ok, cool, shall we start setting your windows machine to see if you can run the sso tests? [08:32] mandel: sure [08:33] its open in front of me here [08:34] fagan: ok, lets start with some basic tools first, you need to have bzr (for our projects) and hg (for some external ones like pykeyring) [08:34] fagan: you can install the tortoise version of both, but the icons will not work, the reason for that is that in windows you can only have 15 special icons, and as soon as you have more, some of them will not appear [08:35] that sounds like a big pain [08:35] installing now [08:36] fagan: he, yes, 'cause guess who will add some more :P [08:37] but if we are smart about the namong, well some icons starting with drop and eding in box my fall from the users machine hehe [08:38] well you can always work around dumb limitations on platforms [08:38] duanedesign: really good. not going to be able to make UDS this time around :(. Looking for a job right now and dont think it is going to be possible [08:39] mandel: ^^ [08:39] lol, talking to myself there [08:39] whoops installed the wrong hg but got the right one now [08:39] duanedesign: haha it happens, where you invited to UDS-N? [08:40] mandel: yes. [08:40] fagan: haha, this morning is going to be way boring setting up all is a pain :) [08:40] duanedesign: common then! find a week of :) [08:40] he missing f :P [08:41] mandel: well thats cool if its only once :) [08:41] done [08:41] mandel: it kills me thinking about not going. I really enjoy it. [08:41] hg and bzr are installed [08:41] fagan: ok, two thing now that, first you need to set up your ssh key to work with pagent and lp [08:41] fagan: so, first, find putty and download the full msi [08:41] mandel: and I did not get to meet a few people at the last UDS. beuno and rye were not their, and a few others I know. [08:42] duanedesign: and how come you cannot go, schedule issues? [08:42] mandel: im just after remembering how much of a pain bzr is to set up on windows [08:42] fagan: is not THAT bad ;) [08:43] well its definitely not as easy as on ubuntu [08:43] mandel: i am not working right now. Hopefully i will find a job soon. Then I will be playing catch up on bills and stuff for awhile. Do not think a week off is likely [08:45] duanedesign: dammed that is a PITA [08:46] duanedesign: by the way, how did the bugsquad request go? [08:46] mandel: so I have putty open what do I do now? [08:47] fagan: you downloaded the msi, with all the tools, right? [08:47] * fagan is thinking he can get around this if he versions the file and puts it onto u1 [08:47] yep [08:47] mandel: actually I have an easier way of doing it now :) [08:47] fagan: ok, cool, what you have to do is either get your ssh key from you current linux machine, or create a new one to use with pagent [08:48] mandel: it would be a little handier if I just use u1 and my current setup on my ubuntu machine since thats already set up for all this [08:49] so we can skip the vcs part maybe [08:50] fagan: what do you mean? [08:50] mandel: went well, thank you. [08:51] mandel: I already have bzr and hg set up on my ubuntu machine I can version them into my u1 folder and it will just sync down [08:51] or thats the weird idea I have to get around it :) [08:52] fagan: that would break sooooo manything on windows that ai would not recommend it :) [08:52] ok then hehe [08:53] fagan: let me get you all the instructions of how to set up the keys, one sec [08:53] its cool i have it here [08:53] fagan: ok, then follow those :) [08:56] give me a sec windows wants to restart itself now for some reason [09:00] ok making the key now [09:02] ok made the key and imported it into putty [09:03] what next? [09:04] fagan: test it by branching a project, like lp:ubuntu-sso-client [09:05] worked [09:08] fagan: cool, lets install the libs etc that you need, first start with python 2.7 [09:09] done [09:10] sweet, next thing you need to do is install easy_install so that you can easily add the extra packages [09:12] mandel: done [09:12] fagan: superb, have you added the easy_install script to your path? [09:13] well its in the python27 dir wouldnt the installer add the path itself? [09:13] hmmmm didnt [09:14] fagan: hehe it does not do it automatically, you have to add Python27/Scripts to you path so that the cmd knows about it [09:18] windows hates me :P [09:19] hahaha [09:21] fagan: let me know if you don't know any of the steps, I'm here to help :) [09:21] done [09:21] just messed up he dir name with the \ and stuff [09:21] haha [09:21] sorry, I always type /, it feels nicer :P [09:22] yeah websites and linux make / my default too [09:22] fagan: cool, first with the big guy, you need to install twisted, which wont be painless [09:23] fagan: there is an msi for it, but you will need to isntall pycripto for windows first, and zope.interface [09:23] fagan: for zope.interface you can use easy_install, for pycripto and twisted you need an installer [09:24] http://pad.lv/ ! [09:25] http://pad.lv/735571 [09:25] ah its pycrypto [09:25] * fagan was getting weird tracebacks and didnt know what was going on [09:26] fagan: ups, sorry for the typp [09:26] typo... [09:27] * mandel looks for his second coffee [09:27] im getting couldnt find vcvarsall.bat [09:27] fagan: first lesson of spanis; 'puto windows' [09:28] fagan: it is telling you that you do not have a compiler present that could build the python c extension, the easies thing to do is download vs2008 c++ express to solve the issue [09:28] I have visual studio installed already [09:29] maybe its because it was never started [09:30] fagan: which version? [09:30] 2010 [09:30] I had issues with 2010 [09:30] fagan: there you go :) [09:30] 2008 fixes the issue [09:31] python 2.7 is compiled with 2008, and I didn't want to go through the problem os fixing that :P [09:31] we are not here to fix the full platform hehe [09:31] yeah that would be doing the job for them [09:31] exactly [09:33] knowing how big visual studio is this is going to take a while [09:33] rye: those url patters are bloody great! [09:33] fagan: yeah, that's why I expected to take a ay to set up everything [09:33] mandel, yes! our very own launchpad url shortener [09:34] fagan: once we are done remember to do a back up so that is somehting goes nuts you wont have to do it again [09:34] woot launchpad url shortener [09:34] rye: yeah, and the make sense :) [09:34] fagan: hi! got a minute? [09:34] Chipaca: sure [09:37] mandel: wouldnt windows have an issue with me having 2 different versions of visual studio on the one computer [09:37] fagan: not at all [09:37] * fagan gets his vs for free so it doesnt really matter too much [09:38] done now [09:39] but getting a build error on pycrypto [09:39] :/ [09:39] fagan: patebin the trace error [09:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/580996 [09:41] * mandel looks [09:44] fagan: lest tye voidspace compiles binaries http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/weblog/arch_d7_2010_07_03.shtml [09:44] fagan: he is one to be trusted with it (canonical empl) [09:46] hmmmmm it needs python 2.6 [09:47] oh I can use the zip instead [09:47] sudo aptitude -y install random-greeting && random-greeting [09:48] done [09:48] (Don't try that command, I don't know if it will actually install anything!) [09:48] that took a lot longer than I thought :) [09:48] fagan: worked? [09:49] yep [09:49] and zope installed fine already [09:52] fagan: then you should be able to install twisted now [09:53] done mandel [09:54] fagan: cool, next oauth, whcich you should be able to install with easy_install [09:56] done [09:59] fagan: ok, cool, next would be pyqt so that you can wor on the UI on windows [10:00] make sure you get pyqt and not pside, we dont want to be fighting with py2exe issues [10:00] yeah downloading now [10:01] gotta say my computer is doing this all pretty fast [10:01] done [10:04] fagan: installed to? [10:04] yep [10:04] or do you mean installed to which dir? [10:05] fagan: installed as you can do import PyQt4 from python [10:05] yep [10:06] ok, lets see if you have everything for sso (ubuntuone-client is harder) [10:07] fagan: try to branch lp:~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/implement_windows_main_4 [10:07] kk [10:10] fagan: when ever you get it, run run-tests.bat [10:10] fagan: green light should appear... [10:10] wait, I forgot something, you need a patch for xdg on windows... [10:10] fagan: let me get it for you [10:12] mandel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/581007 [10:12] something else is missing [10:13] fagan: ah, indeed, you need to install lp:ubuntuone-dev-tools [10:13] branch, and python setup.py install [10:13] kk [10:15] oh yeah the xdg thing is missing [10:16] fagan: yes, give me a sec, I'm making a pckages for you [10:16] oh coo [10:16] cool [10:29] fagan: feel free to branch lp:~mandel/+junk/xdh [10:29] then python setup.py install [10:29] kk [10:33] mandel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/581021 [10:33] thats after xdg was installed [10:34] fagan: yes, that is a dependency from ubuntuone-dev-tools, try: [10:34] easy_install pylint [10:34] * mandel hopes it is in there and for 2.7 [10:36] there is [10:36] :) [10:36] ok this is a bit different now [10:36] pastebinning [10:37] oh no the terminal cut off half of it [10:37] ill just do a > to a file [10:37] fagan: yes, cmd by default has a very small buffer [10:38] ig you right clikc on it, you can increase the buffer [10:38] oh ok [10:39] on the max buffer it doesnt fit it all in [10:39] :) [10:39] ill just paste what I can [10:40] you will get an idea [10:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/581022 [10:42] fagan: damme,d I keep forgetting dependencies… you need mocker for the tests [10:42] easy_install mocker [10:42] its cool we will get there eventually [10:44] since when does dos allow you to use / instead of \ in file paths [10:45] fagan: where do you see that? [10:45] I just did it [10:45] :) [10:45] hmm strange [10:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/581023 [10:49] fagan: easy_install coverage [10:51] http://paste.ubuntu.com/581024 [10:54] fagan: ths one is your turn to guess, look at the top of the pastebin of both, how would you fix it? [10:54] easy_install lazr.restfulclient? [10:55] or something [10:55] fagan: bingo! [10:55] :) [10:55] hehe [10:57] easy_install gobject? [10:58] getting a failed import for gobject now so I presume I can just easy install it [10:58] fagan: mm no, that i need to see, it should not occur [10:58] ill pastebin [11:00] http://paste.ubuntu.com/581027 [11:00] I know the dbus ones and all are fine that the import is failing [11:02] fagan: hm, that looks like a bug in my branch, let me check [11:05] cool [11:06] at least its not something im missing then [11:14] fagan: yes, it was me forgetting to rename a file.. lame error [11:14] so do a bzr pull then [11:14] fagan: if you pull the new version, you should be able to run the tests and have a couple that fail [11:15] fagan: yes bzr pull [11:15] done already [11:15] oh and now its asking for win32api [11:15] easy_install? :) [11:16] ok that didnt work [11:16] so it must be something else that im missing [11:16] fagan: yes, but easy_install wont work in this case, the win32api is a quite big extension [11:16] fagan: google for pywin32, that would give you the missing windows parts [11:17] ah ok [11:18] ok [11:18] up and running I think [11:19] load of errors and failures though it looks like [11:19] but it did some stuff [11:19] :) [11:19] it should have about 5, or at least that is what i think [11:20] http://paste.ubuntu.com/581043 [11:20] damn buffer [11:20] * fagan shakes his fist in the air cursing bill gates [11:21] fagan: jaja [11:21] fagan: ok, to fix those issues you need to grab the fork I did of python keyring [11:21] you can find it here https://bitbucket.org/mandel/pykeyring-delete-password [11:21] it should be merged soon with trunk and we will be able to use easyinstall, but in the mean time, hg clone and the python setup.py install [11:24] yeah working on it [11:25] 1 failure [11:25] ah, nice :) [11:26] that is expected, there are other two branches wanting to land too to fix that in trunk [11:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/581044 [11:26] but thats cool [11:26] working, more or less [11:27] fagan: that is what is expected from that branch, if you merge your local copy with lp:~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/fix_732112 everything so work [11:27] give it a try, bzr merge lp:~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/fix_732112 [11:29] PASSED [11:29] nice [11:34] mandel: so do you have any other things for me? [11:34] fagan: cool, now you can work on ubuntu_sso :) [11:34] yeah thats what I thought [11:35] fagan: well, if you want to start with a very small task, try to find you what are those lint messages at the end of the tests and how to remove them :) [11:35] hmmm how about I do that tomorrow and get a good look around the code too [11:36] fagan: sure, take tour time :) [11:36] thats awesome though [11:36] and didnt take all day : [11:36] :) [11:39] fagan: well, that is one of the project, you need to setup the libs for ubuntuoneclient [11:39] but step by step [11:40] yeah I get the idea why its annoying to work on windows now :) [11:40] * fagan throws out a hail to the apt-get god [11:42] anyway i have to go off shopping for a few minutes so ill be off. Ill be on tomorrow and ask some questions if any pop out [11:43] fagan: yes, and we have not gotten to the point where things dont work :) [11:43] yeah but broken things is what developers have to deal with a good bit so its not really too bad [11:44] I broke many a build in my day [11:44] :) [11:44] So dealing with a big mess is common enough [11:45] fagan: dont underestimate ms :) [11:45] hah but we can fix their OS thats the easy part [11:45] :P [11:47] I actually do know a few people that work there though so maybe I can convince them to get some of the 90000 employees to fix their terrible bits [11:47] hehe [11:49] anyway im off food to be bought and eaten [11:50] ok, laters === facundobatista_ is now known as facundobatista [12:20] * mandel walking dog === muffinre` is now known as muffinresearch === ehw_ is now known as ehw [13:29] good morning, #ubuntuone! [13:29] Hola alecu === mbarnett` is now known as mbarnett [13:33] facundobatista, py3.2 is green! http://buildbot.twistedmatrix.com/waterfall [13:33] facundobatista, that was really fast! [13:34] alecu, that's not mine, and it's not surely trunk [13:38] facundobatista, how are you approaching the port? 2to3 or source level compatibility? [13:40] alecu, I started with all the stuff we need to change for Py3, and can run in current versions [13:40] new -> types [13:40] for example [13:40] __cmp__ / cmp() -> other comparison stuff [13:40] etc [13:41] facundobatista, what's the oldest python version that twisted claims compatibility with? [13:41] build successful failed slave lost [13:43] alecu, 2.4 :( [13:43] alecu, it's a PITA [13:44] facundobatista, yes, I knew they prided on compatibility with older versions... [13:44] facundobatista, just wondering if they wanted to break that in order to move fwd. [13:45] alecu, the point is... why twisted *still* supports 2.4? which is the gain? [13:46] facundobatista, to keep running on older servers (ie, one or two y/o debians) that won't be reinstalled soon. [13:47] facundobatista, do you still have some twisted sprinters around? perhaps you can ask about that. [13:47] 2.4 is older than that. even on hardy there was 2.5 as default, no? [13:47] dobey, yes [13:47] and hardy is 3 years old [13:47] alecu, RHEL5 still uses 2.4 [13:48] rhel5 also still uses old twisted [13:48] alecu, but, if you have a very old server, with a very old Python, you do that for fun? or for stability? And you'll be installing the latest twisted? [13:48] dobey, yes, but JP says "what if they want to install the latest version?" [13:48] you'll be installing a new app that needs the latest twisted. [13:49] JP = Jean Paul Calderone, biggest twisted core dev [13:49] facundobatista: yes, and what if they want to install gnome 3.0? they'll have to upgrade the OS [13:49] and python will be installed from rpms, but twisted will be easy_installed. [13:49] dobey, hahaha [13:51] this is why VCSes have the ability to create stable branches [13:51] alecu dobey mandel thisfred: standup in 10' [13:51] ack. [13:51] so if people have to keep running old crap, and there is some fix that needs to be put in that old crap, it can be done [13:51] aye [13:52] ralsina: i will protest by sitting :) [13:52] dobey: :-) [13:55] blah, i can't tell which of mandel's branches depends on which other ones [13:56] mandel: and please stop deleting merge proposals when you decide to make changes. grr [13:59] dobey: which merge are you talking about? [13:59] all these windows main branches for sso [14:00] me [14:00] not me [14:00] dobey: oh, well I divided a big branch to smaller ones, I did not know what yould b thebest way to fix that [14:00] m [14:00] me [14:01] ralsina, alecu [14:01] me [14:01] me [14:01] * INPROGRESS get ubuntuone-couch into natty [1/2] [14:01] - [X] 0.2.0 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-couch/release-0.2.0/+merge/53317 [14:01] - [ ] ubuntuone-couch FFE http://pad.lv/729117 [14:01] * INPROGRESS dbus activation of control panel http://pad.lv/728722 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-control-panel/dbusify [14:01] * INPROGRESS notifications/alerts of quota events http://pad.lv/702172 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/quota-notifications [14:01] mandel: and i was about to approve your two small one-line fix branches, but then saw you merged the larger branch in, and i don't want to end up having the branches land out of order and have too much stuff in the merge [14:02] * TODO send prioritized bug list to ralsina [14:02] * TODO multiple U1 entries in msging menu http://pad.lv/721525 [14:02] * TODO peer reviews [0/4] [14:02] NEXT: dobey [14:02] λ DONE: some work on using new webkit api, distutils-extra fix upload, disable sso nightlies on lucid [14:02] λ TODO: new webkit api in libu1, bug #727558, bug #733327 [14:02] λ BLCK: None. [14:02] mandel: you [14:02] dobey: Bug 727558 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/727558 is private [14:02] Launchpad bug 733327 in libubuntuone (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Notify user of missing MP3 support (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/733327 [14:02] DONE: Sorted sso setup.py issues. elped fagan to set up his env to work on windows. Tried to book flights to budapest. SSO ui. [14:02] TODO:Make dobyes live easier for sso merging. More UI on Windows [14:02] ralsina: go [14:03] oh, BLOKCED: no [14:03] DONE: team leads call, windows port progress call, reviews, started search for windows contractor [14:03] dobey: oh, those, did i set them to depend on others.. let me check [14:03] TODO: check contractors, reviews, calls, etc. [14:03] BLOCKED: no [14:03] alecu? [14:04] DONE: a branch to fix bug #708145, fought a lot with bug #723832, found a solution for bug #735613 [14:04] TODO: keep bugfixing zeitgeist, peer reviews [14:04] BLOCKED: still no input on bug #729259, need a deep chicharra review [14:04] ok, comments? [14:04] alecu: Bug 708145 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/708145 is private [14:05] mandel: no, and given the fix, i don't see any reason they should depened on the other branches, or include any changes from them [14:05] alecu: Bug 723832 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/723832 is private [14:05] Launchpad bug 735613 in ubuntuone-client "Zeitgeist should save a user friendly file name (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735613 [14:05] Launchpad bug 729259 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "Scrollable list of devices looks broken (affects: 1) (heat: 852)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729259 [14:05] ralsina, I still didn't get any design input on bug #72925 [14:05] Launchpad bug 72925 in linux-source-2.6.17 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Problems with WLAN and "ipw3945" (dups: 1) (heat: 2)" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72925 [14:05] hmmm [14:05] make that bug #729259 [14:06] I have one important announcement: we will have an intern starting next week, and he will stay with us for 6 months [14:06] :) [14:07] and her he is ;-) [14:07] dobey: so, one depends n the other because I'm stupid, but they do not depend on the main branches [14:07] cool [14:07] (speak of the devil) [14:08] ralsina, what will she be working on? [14:08] alecu: He [14:08] oh! [14:08] dobey: I think it is because I was using pipeline and I got carried away [14:08] He will start helping mandel on the windows port [14:08] welcome fagan! [14:09] thanks alecu [14:09] dobey: nevertheless those are fixes so that the test pass on windows, nothing related with lnux [14:09] fagan, sorry, got confused by the missing "e" in "her he is" [14:09] yeah typo its cool :) [14:09] I admit that was confusing :-) [14:10] hi fagan, welcome to the team! [14:10] fagan, be kind to mandel he has been alone in the windows ghetto for too long ;-) [14:10] It has damaged him in ways that we can barely grasp [14:10] yeah I will [14:11] mandel: yes, but they are one line changes, so easier to review and get landed, and cause new nightlies to build [14:11] yeah, his broken hand is nothing compared to the scars in his soul :-) [14:12] dobey: oh, you need it so that we trigger a new build, easy, which way would it be nicer for me to remove the code that was added in main so that it is not a pain for you? [14:12] it's like beholding Cthulhu, or something like that. [14:12] I'm going to kill you all in your sleep…. [14:12] with a spoon [14:12] mandel: oooooook ;-) [14:12] mandel: i'm not sure. but i hope you're not my roommate at uds now [14:13] * thisfred puts NOT MANDEL in that field on the wiki [14:13] hehe [14:13] mandel: if you ened to kill me with a spoon, all you have to do is put something like very salty mashed potatoes in it and feed me. [14:13] s/ened/need/ [14:14] that sound pornographic…. [14:14] ok, gotta go snoop in the futures call, be nice to each other and NO SPOON FOUL PLAY ;-) [14:14] ralsina: do you have german relatives? [14:15] hehehe [14:15] he [14:15] just sorted out my new desk now I have 2 monitors [14:15] mandel: you should wash your mind with bleach >:-) [14:15] mandel: what I have is high blood pressure you insensitive clod! ;-) [14:16] and you guys make me work with spoon serial killer :) [14:16] ralsina: do you wanna see by high blood pressure…. [14:16]