[00:46] question: does the locale i select in the install (time zone/keyboard) information carry over to Country/Region settings in System Setttings? That is country, languages, money, calendar, etc? or does it default to United States?? [01:22] what version of firefox is shipping in ubuntu? [01:26] Good Morning :) [01:29] or late evening :) [01:31] jjesse: 3.6.15 in stable, 4.0~rc1 in natty [01:31] yofel thanks :) [01:31] for firefox or libreoffice? [01:31] firefox [01:31] tip: use 'rmadison firefox' :P [01:33] ok thanks === gorgonizer_ is now known as gorgonizer [03:23] morning [03:37] morning shadeslayer, and I'm off to bed :P [08:25] when can I be the member of the team kubuntu members? [08:37] c2tarun: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Membership [08:38] valorie, it says nxt meeting is in jan, page is not updated. :/ [08:38] right, read that page thoroughly [08:38] once you are ready, the steps are there to get a meeting called to consider your membership [08:39] page will be updated when the next candidate updates it [08:39] :-) [08:40] valorie, I am not sure I m ready or not :/ can you please take a look at my LP page and tell whether I am ready not :) https://launchpad.net/~c2tarun [08:41] that's a Launchpad page [08:42] you need to make a wiki page [08:42] right there in the wiki [08:42] it's important to learn how to do things like that, since we do some of our process documentation in the wiki [08:43] you are very energetic and persistent, I've noticed [08:43] admirable qualities [09:03] morning [09:24] valorie, what should I write in my contributions section? [09:25] I mean how can I get the list of the bugs I fixed [09:27] I think your launchpad will have that list [09:27] you can list a few you are proud of, and just link to the list [09:28] do you participate in the community in other ways also? [09:28] valorie, nope :( I mostly solved ftbfs and update bugs. [09:29] valorie, BTW what other participations do you mean? [09:34] such as helping out in IRC, on the list or forum [09:35] maybe being involved in your LoCo [09:35] there are tons of ways to participage [09:35] contribute [09:35] I don't seem to be able to type tonight [09:36] valorie, sure :) no prob I'll see thanks :) [09:37] killing bugs is GREAT! [09:37] plus you package [09:38] so you do a lot [09:38] but don't forget the community side [09:38] it's fun! [09:38] sure :) [09:38] and people are thrilled to meet and talk with a packager [09:38] well I am just a beginner :/ [09:38] eventually you might want to give talks [09:39] well, I've filed bugs [09:39] but never fixed one [09:39] valorie, are you MOTU or kubuntu member? [09:39] and asked for packages, but never wrapped one up [09:39] I'm a Kub. member [09:39] valorie, wow :) [09:39] since last year [09:40] but those push rights are all wasted on me [09:40] lol [09:40] valorie, well I think they only give rights only when they ensure that is will not be wasted :) so definetly they are not wasted on you :) [09:41] heh [09:41] well, I won't misuse them [09:41] apachelogger, sorry, I never came back to you when you pinged me the other day. I think it was about adding sessions to AppDeveloperWeek, but seeing that you've already added a couple, I guess that's sorted? [09:42] valorie, I'll surely look into community side participations and I'll make my wiki page :) thanks a lot [09:43] super! === hunger_ is now known as hunger [10:02] Arff my karma goes down... :( [10:02] * bambee slaps launchpad [11:49] Riddell, that kdeedu bug, no body committed fix still on that bug. Do I have to subscribe any team for that? [11:51] c2tarun: no you have to poke us into uploading it [11:51] what's the bug number again? [11:51] Riddell, bug 683439 [11:52] Launchpad bug 683439 in kdeedu (Ubuntu) "split kalgebra mobile" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683439 [11:55] c2tarun: groovy, uploaded [11:55] Riddell, thanks :) [11:58] * c2tarun looking for packaging related bugs in kubuntu-bugs, if anyone knows any bug please ping me. Thank you [12:01] darts vader [12:04] c2tarun: there's a new amarok beta if you want a challenge [12:04] Riddell, what is it? [12:05] what's amarok? [12:06] yup [12:07] I mean its a player. Where can I get more information about new beta announcements? [12:07] oh, phwe [12:07] phew [12:07] starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/amarok-2.4.0.90.tar.bz2 [12:07] starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/secret/amarok-2.4.0.90.tar.bz2 [12:08] well I dont have permission to access that :| [12:09] hmm [12:09] c2tarun: try now [12:09] Riddell, its started :) [12:13] Riddell, is that ec2 machine I used yesterday still running? [12:13] hahah [12:14] Starsky and Hutch [12:14] c2tarun: no, although I can start another one if needed [12:15] Riddell, sure :) I am getting an awful speed of 8Kb/s here :( [12:16] Interwebz in india sure does suck [12:16] shadeslayer, and I am at home now :( using BSNL limited connection. it really sucks ;'( [12:17] yeah ... i know [12:18] * c2tarun its holi coming I was wondering who else on this channel is going to celebrate? o/ [12:18] c2tarun: ubuntu@ec2-50-16-130-68.compute-1.amazonaws.com [12:19] Riddell, thanks :) [12:26] DERP [12:26] Riddell: you should have stayed till holi [12:34] shadeslayer: what happens then? [12:35] Riddell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Holi_celebrations,_Pushkar,_Rajasthan.jpg [12:36] :O [12:36] wicked [12:36] At the end of the day people look like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Young_man_celebrating_Holi.JPG [12:36] yeah [12:36] also it is saint patrick's day :S [12:36] shadeslayer, they are too clean ;) wikipedia probably uploaded clean pick :P [12:36] hahah :D [12:36] c2tarun: probably [12:36] happy paddy's day everyone [12:36] c2tarun: it's on Sunday right? [12:37] shadeslayer, yup [12:37] alright [12:43] shadeslayer: ouch, that looks painful [12:43] what... no!! [12:44] it's fun [12:44] Riddell, that not blood ;) that color :P [12:44] yeah :D [12:45] who uses identi.ca? can someone send me a message @jriddell ? [12:45] apachelogger: just a quick question, does the U1 API support bookmark sync? [12:47] Riddell: done [12:47] *shrug* [12:47] technically it can replicate anything in desktopcouch [12:47] pratically half the stuff is broken 90% of the time [12:48] ubuntu one supports any data structure in couchDB, but the formats have no defined stability [12:48] yay [12:48] hmm [12:48] svn segfault [12:49] apachelogger: one of my friends made VLC Segfault [12:50] on windows? [12:51] on Arch [12:53] shadeslayer: yeah [12:53] see [12:53] distributions always mess with software [12:53] mail to myowncloud away [12:53] which is a bad thing with software like vlc that targets mostly legacy systems [12:53] Quintasan: yofel_ you lazy people ... i'm making the announcement to kubuntu-devel [12:53] as it heavily depends on the underlying libraries and stuff to work well together [12:54] which is not always the case because distributions mess with the libraries and their versions and whatnot [12:54] ... [12:54] <3 linux [12:54] hahah :D [12:54] Riddell, kdeedu failed. :/ [12:55] I think for the same reason as koffice. [12:57] c2tarun: hmm, maybe :( [12:58] Riddell, well this is rising as new FTBFS issue just like binutils-gold :/ [13:15] dpm: are natty translations open? [13:15] Riddell, yes [13:17] ta [13:31] Riddell, amarok's new version failed, an source code error, may be by upstream, http://paste.kde.org/7475/ [13:35] kaboom [13:35] Nightrose: ^ === dbarth_ is now known as dbarth [13:38] if only Amarok built in Neon [13:38] then we could have caught this [13:44] apachelogger: please ask in the other channel - i asked for test building last night and was told it worked [13:55] Nightrose, what other channel? [13:55] I mean which other channel/ [13:56] c2tarun: kde-nudists [13:56] lol [13:56] nudist?? [13:56] O_O [13:56] yeah [13:56] * apachelogger does not dare going in there [13:56] or else === apachelogger is now known as apachelogger_ === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger__ === apachelogger__ is now known as apachelogger___ === apachelogger___ is now known as apachelogger [13:57] if you know what I mean [13:57] obviously I dont know :) [13:58] * c2tarun anyone know what apachelogger mean? [13:59] * apachelogger is somewhat certain that valorie gets the drift [14:00] KRF: oh there you arec [14:00] c2tarun: KRF can halp you [14:00] like the wind! [14:00] KRF, you looked at the error I got during build of amarok? [14:01] KRF, http://paste.kde.org/7475/ [14:02] Nightrose: what do you think about a talk on wine for the DS? [14:02] oh, it is 3 already [14:02] * apachelogger opens a bottle of captain [14:02] c2tarun: what version are you trying to compile? both current git and 2.4.1b1 do not have a aboutData there [14:03] be sure to clean / reset your checkout [14:03] maybe we have a patch [14:03] your fault! [14:03] KRF, I am trying to compile amarok-2.4.0.90 [14:04] apachelogger: btw, are you coming to that randa place again? [14:04] ./03_restricted_install.diff:+ dbusargs.append(aboutData.programName()); [14:04] magic [14:04] or was it ruanda? [14:04] drop them patches! [14:04] kill them dead! [14:04] shoot them [14:04] KRF: randa [14:04] yes [14:04] I have to attend [14:04] *have to* [14:04] i think ruanda is a bit more off [14:04] okay [14:05] c2tarun: fakeroot make -f debian/rules clean [14:05] quilt pop -a [14:05] apachelogger, I think the error is due to a patch 03_restricted_install.diff what should I do? [14:05] quilt rm 03_restricted_install.diff [14:05] or maybe it was delete rather than rm [14:05] then try again [14:05] I can remove the patch manually. [14:06] let quilt do it [14:06] much safer [14:06] c2tarun: also don't forget to add a changelog entry about it :) [14:06] apachelogger, sure :) [14:07] rationale for dropping the patch: phonon-gstreamer which is default in natty installs codecs on demand [14:07] KRF: btw, does amarok still have the codec install plugin thing? [14:07] uhm, no idea [14:07] hm hmm [14:07] actually [14:07] c2tarun: you might want to wait [14:07] apachelogger, another prob, the patch on top is 14_soundmenu_fix_desktop_file_path.diff not 03_rest* [14:08] there is more implications [14:08] c2tarun: that is why you should first quilt pop -a and then quilt delete [14:08] then quilt takes care of the mumbo jumbo [14:08] apachelogger, ok, what complications are u talking about? [14:09] KRF: there is a genuine user experience problem with amarok only adding files that phonon supports to the database IMHO [14:09] ./src/EngineController.cpp:277:EngineController::installDistroCodec() [14:09] ./src/EngineController.cpp-278-{ [14:09] ./src/EngineController.cpp:279: KService::List services = KServiceTypeTrader::self()->query( "Amarok/CodecInstall" [14:09] ah, groovy [14:09] c2tarun: amarok not actually adding stuff phonon does not support at the time of scanning [14:09] so [14:09] user installs [14:09] starts amarok [14:09] amarok shows notification about not being able to play mp3 [14:10] now amarok scans music [14:10] and comes up with an empty database [14:10] the user is now screwed(tm) [14:10] Riddell: ping [14:10] Riddell: why did we drop the codecinstall thing? [14:11] what what? [14:12] Riddell: in earlier versions of Kubuntu we had this nice codec installer, which is tightly integrated into amarok [14:13] IIRC when amarok starts and detects no mp3 support it looks for such a codecinstaller and adds a button to install mp3 support to the notification it displays [14:13] seems like a much better solution than us calling out to dbus and triggering a system notification [14:13] the only thing we've had for ages is the kubuntu/03_restricted_install.diff patch which calls kubuntu-notifications-helper on startup [14:14] now there's the phonon install too [14:14] Riddell, so do we need kubuntu/03_rest.....diff now? [14:15] Riddell, that patch is creating problem in building of amarok's latest version. [14:18] shadeslayer: sorry, I forgot about that :( [14:18] yofel_: yeah i've posted now :P [14:18] c2tarun: depends on how much we trust phonon [14:18] i get all the beer now [14:19] muwhahaha [14:19] could also just replace dbusargs.append(aboutData.programName()); with dbusargs.append("amarok"); [14:19] Riddell: phonon install does not help with Amarok though ... the collection scanner is mimetype sensitive, meaning it will only scan what phonon reports as supported [14:19] Riddell: that is a faulty change [14:19] it removes the possibility of localization [14:19] which is why it uses aboutdata to begin with === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:20] either the patch needs to grab the globabl kaboutdata object or find another way to get the local instance of it [14:20] oh right enough [14:21] then add a KAboutData aboutData = KGlobal::mainComponent().aboutData(); [14:22] c2tarun: do you know how to edit patches? [14:22] Riddell: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/amarok-promo/2006-May/000022.html [14:22] Riddell, yup I think, [14:22] you even got cc'd :P [14:23] apachelogger: this was many moons ago, KDE 4.0 happened since [14:23] Riddell, i'll remove all patches and then keep on pushing them one by one until 03_rest* comes at top and then I'll edit the file and refresh it :) am I right? [14:23] c2tarun: yes that's right [14:23] Riddell: yes, but apparently the new enginecontroller still supports it [14:24] Any idea when is the next kubuntu meeting? [14:24] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/581599/ [14:25] steveire: when there arises need for one [14:25] steveire: what's up? [14:25] Investigating kubuntu membership [14:25] Riddell, just making sure, I have to add KAboutData aboutData = KGlobal::mainComponent().aboutData(); in file App.cpp just above the line using aboutData [14:26] c2tarun: it will also need a #include [14:26] steveire: ah, groovy, if you feel ready just add yourself to the meeting page and find someone to organize the meeting :) [14:26] Riddell, ok [14:26] probably also KComponentData [14:27] Riddell: I think .aboutData() returns a ptr btw [14:27] oh, pointers, c++ is so evil [14:27] KAboutData* aboutData = KGlobal::mainComponent().aboutData(); then [14:28] so the line becomes KAboutData *aboutData = KGlobal::mainComponent().aboutData() [14:28] ok got it [14:28] and what about KComponentData? do I have to include it as well? [14:29] * c2tarun header files seems to follow gramatical order, should I preserve that order? [14:29] Riddell, ^^\ [14:29] shadeslayer: lazy? lol school [14:29] thx [14:30] s/school/lazy [14:30] can't do much when I'm stuffed with homework [14:30] I tried to add it and got a internal server error [14:31] steveire: reload the page, it should have saved, just wiki being rubbish [14:32] Riddell, if aboutData is a pointer are you sure aboutData.programName() is correct or it should be aboutData->programName()? [14:32] Touche. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/steveire Do I need to add more? [14:32] c2tarun: that's what I copied out of src/aboutdialog/ExtendedAboutDialog.cpp [14:33] Would it be complex to make grantlee use launchpad for bug tracking? [14:33] steveire: wiki page looks good to me [14:33] steveire: it would be very easy to use launchpad === rdieter is now known as rjondieter [14:34] just register the project and make sure bug tracking is turned on === rjondieter is now known as rdieter [14:36] Riddell, please look at line 91 in src/aboutdialog/ExtendedAboutDialog.cpp [14:37] I still think it should be aboutData->programName() [14:38] c2tarun: try it and see [14:39] Hmm, that was easy... [14:41] Riddell, how can I compile that file directly? [14:41] c2tarun, Riddell: did you change the call to aboutdata itself? [14:41] apachelogger, what change? [14:42] .name() to ->name() or whatever it was called [14:42] apachelogger, yup I did that. [14:42] k [14:42] perfect :D [14:43] apachelogger, how can I compile that file directly? without doing whole debuild? (just for checking( [14:44] you cannot [14:44] c++ doesnt work that way ^^ [14:44] ping jussi [14:44] oops [14:45] apachelogger, that way means? I just have to compile one cpp file. If I provide proper libraries than what problem can be? [14:48] apachelogger, ok before I start building please take a look at the patch http://paste.kde.org/7481/ [14:48] c2tarun: looks good, try it [14:50] * c2tarun building amarok [14:54] why don't use qdbusinterface ? (simpler and less lines) [14:59] bambee: I doubt there's any paticular reason [15:00] Riddell, should I apply for kubuntu-members? [15:01] c2tarun: that usually needs a couple of months of sustained and significant contributions [15:01] so yes, but I think wait a bit [15:01] Riddell, sure :) [15:02] * Riddell fixes message indicator in choqok and enables it by default [15:02] Riddell, just curious, is my contribution significant? [15:02] Riddell: simplicity is not a good reason ? [15:04] c2tarun: yes [15:04] * c2tarun good ;) I'll wait then [15:04] bambee: I doubt there's any paticular reason it was done the way it has been, probably I just copied some dbus code from elsewhere [15:05] lol [15:05] I was just a question don't worry ;) [15:05] copying code ftw [15:05] s/I/It/ [15:05] bambee meant: "It was just a question don't worry ;)" [15:05] time to study up on Model/View [15:05] apachelogger: turn the sed plugin off [15:08] * bambee loves ask boring questions :P [15:09] Riddell: any news on a cmake+multiarch fix? it seems to break most of our packages [15:10] debfx: I havn't even started === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [15:21] JontheEchidna: so i hear you like Neon [15:21] :D [15:22] yeah, it's pretty cool. I don't have the bandwidth/time to play with neon on my computer currently, but yeah; it's cool. [15:23] shadeslayer: neon should get a story on http://www.ubuntu-news.org/ [15:23] and on OMGUbuntu [15:24] well, not sure we want to be associated with that tabloid rag [15:24] hahah :D [15:24] we already are. They did a review of alpha 3 [15:25] Kubuntu Alpha 3? [15:26] alpha 2, sorry [15:26] but yes: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/kubuntu-11-04-alpha-2-released/ [15:30] apachelogger, got this error http://paste.kde.org/7482/ should I include const in the decalaration line? [15:32] apachelogger, or should I typecast? [15:32] Riddell, ^^ [15:35] add a const at a guess [15:35] or rewrite Amarok in Python, that would solve the problem and make apachelogger happy [15:36] Riddell, hmm.. I'll prefer adding const, the problem is I have to start the whole build from begining :( is there any other way? [15:36] c2tarun: edit, then debuild -nc [15:38] * c2tarun it worked :D [15:39] Riddell: I upgraded to natty by the way (on my ac100) , actually the base system is too unstable... so I've to wait [15:40] oh well [15:40] I cannot start xorg for example [15:40] bambee: what needs doing to get ubuntu installed on an ac100? [15:41] Riddell: don't blame amarok for us making complicated solutions :P [15:41] Riddell: ac100 is a big androidphone with an internal eMMC (internal flash) fastboot as bootloader (but we can use nvidia sdk for some stuff) and the big problem is hardware => actually the kernel is built and customized by hand without an official support , this is the main problem [15:42] a nice thing would be have a official support for linaro [15:45] Riddell: actually we can find maverick preinstalled image for maverick with a customized kernel (not supported on upstream), the preinstalled image is just an armel image [15:45] s/for maverick// [15:45] bambee meant: "Riddell: actually we can find maverick preinstalled image with a customized kernel (not supported on upstream), the preinstalled image is just an armel image" [15:47] maverick is stable, however some hardwares supports like sound, 3D, suspend, powermanagement are missing [15:50] to answer your question, you've just to put a preinstalled image on an SD card or usb drive, flash fastboot (using nvidia tools), and it's done [15:54] but not the preinstalled images we generate, I'd really like some hardware to test those [15:58] Riddell: I can give ssh accesses to some devs , however... it's not the same thing than have the hardware directly [16:00] no [16:05] I asked on #linaro (about support) [16:07] * apachelogger is too stupid for autotools :/ [16:21] well, actually not officially supported by linaro (since nvidia nor toshiba is a member) however it should work since it's a cortexA9 (we said that few days ago). About hardware ogra said there should be a lot of things improved in .36. [16:22] the main problem remains nvidia [16:22] so wait and see [16:25] Riddell, another error http://paste.kde.org/7490/ [16:29] c2tarun: best fix it then :) [16:29] c2tarun: work out why it isn't build built, if that's the intention (it probably is) then remove it from the .install file [16:30] run dh_install --list-missing to check for any more problems [16:30] then debuild -nc to continue [16:36] * apachelogger wonders if he can sue google for making apachelogger cry [16:37] If I can help for something... highlight me ;) [16:41] bambee: want to package koffice-l10n? :) [16:50] Riddell, need help :( looking why amarok_massstorage-device.so is not built, but failed to find :( can you please help a bit. [16:51] c2tarun: well I think I'd start by going into the source of the old version and finding where it was build in the sources find . -name CMakeLists.txt | xargs grep massstorage-device [16:51] which points me to src/core-impl/collections/db/sql/device/massstorage/CMakeLists.txt [16:52] which has kde4_add_plugin(amarok_massstorage-device [16:52] in the new version I'd look at the same file [16:52] and it says kde4_add_plugin(amarok_device_massstorage [16:52] so it has been renamed [16:52] so that explains that [16:52] Riddell, thanks :) let me take a look [16:53] so you want to rename the file in the .install file [16:54] sorry but what does xargs means? [16:55] apachelogger: running calligra by any chance? [16:55] c2tarun: it changes the output from one command into the arguments for the next [16:57] Riddell: sure [16:58] shadeslayer: no, I am running android [16:58] apachelogger: so you think [16:58] whereas ... Android is running you! [17:00] yes [17:00] * apachelogger wonders why libpipeline with android toolchain decides to make a .a [17:02] Riddell, libamarokqtjson.so.1.0.0 file also missing and it is also not in previous version :/ [17:03] c2tarun: looks fine [17:04] looks fine means? that will not fail the build? [17:05] c2tarun: right, it was previously defined in ./external/CMakeLists.txt but now isn't [17:05] Riddell, well I executed debuild -nc and it failed by missing libamarokqtjson.so.1.0.0 missing :( [17:06] c2tarun: yes it's gone, so remove from the .install file [17:06] and run dh_install --list-missing for the next issue [17:09] configure:11383: checking if libtool supports shared libraries [17:09] configure:11385: result: no [17:09] -.- [17:09] Riddell: back to home then I package it [17:11] Riddell, amarok_collection-playdarcollection.so missing so I looked into previous version and it was pointing to src/core-impl/collections/playdarcollection but there is no name changed or removed. [17:12] Riddell, and somehow the new one is using amarokqtjson. here is the diff b/w old and new CMakesList.txt for that folder http://paste.kde.org/7491/ [17:18] c2tarun: it doesn't get built before of the condition in src/core-impl/collections/CMakeLists.txt [17:18]