[00:01] <Bauldrick> how do i get firefox icon (launcher) in 'Kmenu>Internet' - I've uninstalled purged firefox and reinstalled, but I can only launch firefox from commandline..?
[00:01] <james147> Bauldrick: run "kbuildsycoca4" ... it might take some time after thats run for the menus to update
[00:04] <Bauldrick> nope, it's still not there under kmenu>Application>Internet
[00:04] <james147> Bauldrick: logout and back in... if not then wait abit... not sure where the menus are cached
[00:05] <Bauldrick> what are the icons controlled by under? /usr/share/applications/*.desktop?
[00:05] <Bauldrick> this has been along time problem, many times logged in/out - restarted
[00:09] <kaddi> hi, my window preview in taskbar isn't working correctly. It is as if there's a gery flimmer on top of it and the content of the window itslef is very hard to make out. Dos anyon know how to change that?
[02:04] <katsrc> anyone have a work around for Flash crashing so much on Kubuntu 64bit?
[02:04] <katsrc> is it the 32bit wrapper that's causing it?
[02:07] <Daskreech> Maybe why don't you try the 64bit flash
[02:07] <Daskreech> ?
[02:12] <katsrc> Daskreech: yeah, just about to do that
[02:12] <quant> hi, can anyone give me any tips about which effects to disable to get better responsivness? running 4.6 from the official ppa - radeon 3650, athlon x2 5000+, thanks!
[02:12] <quant> overall the ui is very laggy with effects on
[02:12] <Daskreech> Take off blur
[02:14] <quant> Daskreech: ok, that seemed to make a very noticable difference, anything else?
[02:14] <Daskreech> try that for a while
[02:15] <Daskreech> Blur uses the most OpenGL calls which some drivers just can't deal with
[02:15] <Daskreech> so that gets offloaded to the CPU which can do it but just wasn't built to handle per pixel stuff efficently
[02:16] <quant> Daskreech: yes, the speed improvement I got looks like it was some kind of bug/problem... I wouldn't expect that much better performance from only turning off blur
[02:16] <Daskreech> You can also usually go through and just take off stuff you don't need/find impressive
[02:16] <quant> Daskreech: very helpful info, thanks
[02:16] <Daskreech> quant: You are most likely running blur on the CPU very few drivers currently handle all the logic for blur on the GPU
[02:17] <Daskreech> It's pretty when it works but it's honestly as useless effect so off it goes
[02:17] <quant> Daskreech: I honestly don't notice that effect that much, others are much more impressive
[02:18] <Daskreech> quant: again once the drivers catch up it will be much prettier with basically no impact on the machine
[02:18] <Daskreech> Video card are built to handle   this very easily.
[02:18] <Daskreech> When it's done properly it's quite nice
[02:18] <quant> Daskreech: would you happen to know if 64 bit flash has considerably worse performance?
[02:18] <quant> quant: proprietary
[02:19] <Daskreech> Huh?
[02:19] <quant> Daskreech: 64 bit adobe flash compared to 32 bit adobe flash
[02:19] <quant> Daskreech: running kubuntu 64
[02:19] <Daskreech> Should have at worst the same performance
[02:19] <quant> Daskreech: thanks again
[02:20] <Daskreech> Sure
[02:20] <quant> am I bound for some compatibility/non-availability/other problem if I stick to 64 bit?
[02:21] <Daskreech> I'm not sure what you mean
[02:21] <Daskreech> Flash is the most well known offender for issues on a 64 bit system
[02:22] <quant> Daskreech: ok
[02:22] <Daskreech> but any closed/propietary program stands to be an issue
[02:22] <quant> Daskreech: yes, that's what I was afraid of
[02:22] <quant> Daskreech: I'll just keep running this and see what happens and replace with 32 if needed
[02:23] <Daskreech> Other than that 64 Bit for any FOSS stack is invisible to the user unless they hitRAM ceilings
[02:23] <Daskreech> quant: They made a 64 bit Flash so while it's well known it's no longer much of a problem bugs aside
[02:24] <quant> Daskreech: I wouldn't run flash if I didn't need it (I'd run Gnash probably)... but I'm making web content so...
[02:24] <Daskreech> I just don't install it
[02:25] <Daskreech> I do web content as well but lucky I work for a company where two other people teach at schools who provide them Flash for free so it's an easy excuse to let them handle all that stuff :)
[02:25] <quant> Daskreech: :)
[02:29] <quant> Daskreech: developers should disable blur by default, people get impression that kde is slow and bad, they don't research (like I did) on what's wrong
[02:29] <quant> Daskreech: until the issues are sorted
[02:29] <Daskreech> Well the issues won't get sorted if people don't use it :)
[02:29] <Daskreech> Circular :)
[02:30] <quant> Daskreech: true
[02:30] <Daskreech> If it gets really bad Kwin will autodisable it
[02:30] <Daskreech> if it can't run at all then it will get disabled as well
[02:31] <mcurran> usually people are running computers that are handling it, and do you want all those people to have to install all these extra packages?
[02:31] <quant> mcurran: I was just told that most drivers don't handle it
[02:32] <Daskreech> mcurran: for most people it's running on the CPU
[02:32] <quant> mcurran: talking only about blur here
[02:32] <Daskreech> mcurran: and it's not any extra packages. All the plugins that ship with KDE ship with kwin they just turn most of them off
[02:33] <Daskreech> Blur is on cause it's reasonably pretty when it works slightly annoying when it doesn't and when turned off makes no difference in how you use the computer
[02:35] <quant> Daskreech: hm, I'd say very annoying when it doesn't (makes the system unusable for somebody that's working on it)
[02:36] <Daskreech> yeah can be
[02:36] <Daskreech> but easy fix :)
[02:36] <Daskreech>  alt+Shift+F12
[02:36] <quant> Daskreech: well that would kill too many shinies :)
[02:37] <mcurran> where can you turn them on
[02:38] <quant> Daskreech: if you don't mind another question - filezilla is my old love, will it decrease system performance drastically or only for the time needed to load up GTK etc.?
[02:38] <quant> mcurran: system settings - desktop effects
[02:39] <Daskreech> mcurran: alt+F3 -> Configure window behaviour
[02:39] <mcurran> yeah, I don't have that option, so your talking about the compiz-fusion plugins, okay.
[02:39] <Daskreech> quant: I can't really answer that. Depends on how much RAM you have free
[02:39] <quant> Daskreech: 2 GB
[02:39] <Daskreech> but if it loads up then you should be ok
[02:39] <Daskreech> That should be fine
[02:39] <Daskreech> around 700-900 MB would be worrisome
[02:40] <mcurran> I have glxgears running in the background constantly as my internal cube visual, and that doesn't even effect my computer performance much
[02:40] <quant> Daskreech: well not 2 GB free, 2 GB total
[02:40] <Daskreech> it's not a benchmark
[02:40] <Daskreech> never has been and still will not be
[02:41] <Daskreech> just happens to be a tightly coded GL app that's pretty common
[02:41] <mcurran> I was wondering on how I could add a different texture for the fire particles with the paint fire plugin, I want it to look like little burning 0's and 1's (binary), and make them green.  I think it would look pretty cool
[02:41] <Daskreech> quant: I know. That should be fine
[02:42] <Daskreech> 1GB should be fine to run apps in a KDE or GNOME evironment
[02:42] <Daskreech> stands to reason that at worst case running both of them at the same time would take 2GB :)
[02:42] <quant> Daskreech: :)
[02:43] <quant> Daskreech: just installed and ran it... loads up almost instantly
[02:43] <Daskreech> That's what I would expect
[02:43] <Daskreech> 1GB should notice some slow down
[02:44] <quant> Daskreech: now if only I find that Kate is a good replacement for Bluefish ... :) but I doubt it has the HTML capabilities
[02:44] <Daskreech> 2GB wouldn't even bat an eye unless you opened another X server and ran a full GNOME session over there ... just to run filezilla
[02:44] <Daskreech> quant: What does that mean? A html renderer?
[02:44] <shane4ubuntu> quant bluefish is very nice
[02:44] <quant> Daskreech: bluefish has forms for tags etc.
[02:44] <quant> shane4ubuntu: I love it...
[02:45] <shane4ubuntu> quant: I have gotten away from bluefish moreso, since I started using a drupal web site, not much html any more.
[02:45] <quant> shane4ubuntu: I don't write that much html, but it pops up often
[02:46] <quant> shane4ubuntu: (the need to write some)
[02:46] <shane4ubuntu> quant yep, understood, every now and then I mess with html code, but less now days, I still keep bluefish around.
[02:47] <quant> shane4ubuntu: on a kde system?
[02:47] <shane4ubuntu> quant yep, why not, works fine, it is a little slow loading, compared to kate, I use kate for a lot of bash stuff
[02:48] <quant> shane4ubuntu: yes, of course
[02:48] <shane4ubuntu> kate is nice, but I don't think it has the html stuff that bluefish caries, does do syntax highlighting
[02:49] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: didn't mean to bump you out!  You know more of kates capabilities than I do. :)
[02:49] <quant> shane4ubuntu: yeah, but bluefish is like dreamweaver, only with no renderer :) but the main thing is I can load it up under kde when I need
[02:49] <quant> shane4ubuntu: ha... I don't think so :)
[02:49] <shane4ubuntu> quant: yep, runs fine under kde, no prob
[02:51] <Daskreech> quant: that was Quanta
[02:52] <Daskreech> !info quanta
[02:52] <quant> Daskreech: yeah, I know Quanta... might give it another try (along with Kompozer)
[02:52] <Daskreech> which has been unfortunately not been given love like it had in the 60's
[02:52] <shane4ubuntu> kompozer was always my favorite, quanta was, hmm, confusing
[02:53] <quant> well I can always run dreamweaver under wine... which I, luckily, don't need to
[02:53] <quant> editors + kompozer and quanta is all I need
[02:53] <Daskreech> I really wish someone would do a proper FOSS HTML5 IDE
[02:53] <shane4ubuntu> I did find that kompozer messed with my coding, I like it neat, and kompozer doesn't.
[02:54] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: that would be nice.
[02:54] <Daskreech> That would be a) sweet and b) the worst thing to happen to Flash since Elop
[02:54] <quant> shane4ubuntu: that's why I always love my own written html the most
[02:54] <shane4ubuntu> quant: yes, but there are somethings that kompozer was good for, tables, I really hate coding tables.
[02:54] <quant> Daskreech: not very knowledgeable about html 5, unfortunately... just don't need to be at the moment
[02:55] <shane4ubuntu> course bluefish does those pretty well too if I remember
[02:55] <quant> shane4ubuntu: ah, but that's where bluefish shines :) tables...
[02:55] <quant> shane4ubuntu: yup :)
[02:55] <shane4ubuntu> only thing I really know about html5 is that video and audio tags became standard, very nice!
[02:56] <quant> Daskreech: elop... hm :)
[02:57] <quant> Daskreech: good night, nokia, if you ask me :)
[02:57] <Daskreech> quant: it's HTML4 plus actions and a few new first class citizens
[02:58] <quant> Daskreech: thought so, that's why I'm not bothered a lot at the moment with it
[02:58] <Daskreech> quant: We shall see. They may be craftier than it seems on the surface
[02:58] <Daskreech> quant: it's more semantic to be synergystically buzzworthy
[02:58] <quant> Daskreech: personal opinion - sad to let go of 15 years or so of work on own stuff... personally I liked symbian
[02:59] <Daskreech> It's the most capable phone os on the market
[02:59] <quant> Daskreech: would be nice to see a foss fork of it... don't know what the licences in question are
[03:00] <quant> and then a true foss smartphone
[03:02] <quant> thanks for chat and help, all, good night
[03:05] <_Sophia_> ;3
[03:10] <Daskreech> ha ha :)
[03:10] <Daskreech>  hi
[03:10] <_Sophia_> hi ;o
[03:10] <_Sophia_> if anyone said anything to me last night, i was totally afk socializing ;o
[03:11] <Daskreech> totally
[03:13] <_Sophia_> yes, totally =P
[03:15] <Daskreech> How are you?
[03:15] <iszak> So I just installed kubuntu, been using ubuntu previously and I installed the restricted drivers for my HD 5970 however, when I try and go into the administration view and enter my password (done so about 20 times, used konsole and logged in with same password and it worked) it won't work, solutions?
[03:18] <Daskreech> iszak: the admin view? what are you clicking on?
[03:18] <iszak> Daskreech: well in the menu you have catalyst control centre and one with (Administration)
[03:18] <iszak> I need the Administration one which runs as SU AFAIK to setup my 3 displays, because atm they're all a clone of the first monitor
[03:19] <Daskreech> iszak: try kdesu whatever
[03:19] <iszak> Daskreech: KRandKTray? tried it, no luck.
[03:20] <iszak> ohh cool kdesu
[03:20] <Daskreech> I thought you were running the   Driver control panel
[03:20] <iszak> new command thanks Daskreech, let me try.
[03:22] <iszak> Daskreech: I tried kdesudo -u iszak amdxdg-su -c amdcccle and that worked but it wasn't in admin mode AFAIK
[03:22] <Daskreech> what?
[03:22] <iszak> what don't you understand..?
[03:22] <Daskreech> just kdesudo amdcccle
[03:23] <Daskreech> that shoudl be enough I think
[03:23] <iszak> well I c+p the command used by the shortcut
[03:23] <iszak> but i'll try that
[03:24] <iszak> perfect, thank you
[03:53] <iszak> Anyone had kind of slugish performance with ATI HD 5970 in Kubuntu?
[04:02] <iszak> it says ATI Technologies Inc Redwood [Radeon HD 5670] when it's HEMLOCK 5970
[04:08] <Daskreech> what does?
[04:15] <joeb_> hi all .. question .. i have a touchscreen laptop .. i was running gnome the other day and i notice that it runs tsconf .. i installed kbuntu and tsconf isnt working .. any  ideas on how to fix ?
[04:44] <Daskreech> tsconf?
[04:53] <DarthFrog> This really ticks me off.   I've just rebooted into Kubuntu (was playing a game in that other OS) and the GNOME equivalent of KWallet has just popped up and said "An application needs to access the ?wallet?" and asks for my password.  But it won't tell me which application is seeking authentication!  Simplifying things is one thing but thats a security issue!
[04:55] <frogonwheels> DarthFrog: that was a problem with kwallet too - It seems to have improved some though.
[04:55] <DarthFrog> Grumble.  Not improved enough.
[04:56] <frogonwheels> DarthFrog: umm.. you're talking about gnome stuff though..
[04:56] <frogonwheels> or are you now grumbling about kwallet?
[04:57] <DarthFrog> yeah, I know.  Which puzzles me.  Why is a GNOME app asking for authentication?  And which app is it?  Obviously, it's one I launched at some time in the past that needed priviliges but I don't know which one.
[05:02] <Daskreech> don't give it access
[05:02] <Daskreech> it will complain I suppose
[05:02] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: Yes, but that's besides the point.
[05:02]  * Daskreech asks permission to speak in this frog conversation
[05:05] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: That's fine, you've identified yourself. :-)  The point is, the app didn't.
[05:05] <Daskreech> or at least you are not made aware if it did
[05:05] <DarthFrog> Which, in effect, is the same thing AFAIC.
[05:08] <Daskreech> Yes but it's a much easier fix if it is the latter
[05:13] <DarthFrog> I think I figured it out.  There were a bunch of CouchDB processes running, that I've never seen before.  So I uninstalled all the couch packages. :-)
[05:14] <DarthFrog> I used to teach an introductory Linux class and I always told my students that one of the best indicators of the health of your system is your perception of it.  Once you get to know your system, what's running and how it's running, you'll quickly be able to tell when something's wrong and what it might be. :-)  I followed my own advice here.
[05:35] <Daskreech> Somewhat true
[05:35] <Daskreech> depends on how personal the computer is
[05:41] <surunveri> hi
[05:42] <surunveri> im trying to install this thing called SWF Tools and in the install readme kind of file it advices to do ./configure but then it returns an error that you need zlib
[05:48] <surunveri> like
[05:48] <surunveri> ERROR:
[05:48] <surunveri> You need zlib to compile swftools
[05:49] <surunveri> and then there's this zlib website but it says that it's not related to some linux zlib
[05:49] <surunveri> :D
[05:54] <frogonwheels> surunveri: did you install the zlib -dev package?
[05:58] <surunveri> no
[05:58] <surunveri> shuold I ?: D
[06:05] <surunveri> i guess it's  too diffclt
[06:15] <_Sophia_> lol sexism on #ruby o_O
[06:29] <frogonwheels> surunveri: you probably should.  it's not taht hard. just use your fav package manager to do it.
[06:29] <frogonwheels> zlib*-dev  it will be ..
[07:06] <the_dan_yes> Hello
[07:06] <the_dan_yes> I'm running 10.04.2 LTS with 2.6.32-29-generic
[07:06] <the_dan_yes> x86_64
[07:07] <the_dan_yes> it looks like the kernel config is set up to build the intel aes-ni module
[07:07] <the_dan_yes> but i don't see it in the /crypto folder for my running kernel
[07:07] <the_dan_yes> is there an easy way to build that module without doing a full kernel recompile?
[07:14] <susundberg> easy.. well there is no gui for that
[07:15] <susundberg> but are you sure you are missing the module -- aka modprobe 'module name' says it is not found?
[07:15] <susundberg> and the program whatever you are trying to use says its missing a module (or cannot find device or similar)?
[07:16] <the_dan_yes> ah
[07:16] <the_dan_yes> it seems to load when i say modprobe aesni-intel
[07:16] <the_dan_yes> thanks :)
[07:17] <the_dan_yes> is there any way to tell whether it's being used by dm-crypt?
[07:18] <the_dan_yes> oh... it's an x86 module...
[07:18] <the_dan_yes> is that going to cause a problem on x86_64?
[07:21] <susundberg> afaik you should not be able to load that if that would be the case
[07:22] <the_dan_yes> okay cool
[07:22] <the_dan_yes> thank you
[07:35] <susundberg> np
[07:41] <xxmmaann> hi
[07:49] <_Sophia_> hey, i'd like to enable wobbly windows but it won't enable o_O
[07:50] <xxmmaann> hi can you help me i have a error when try to play youtube in totem media player __GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.
[07:50] <valorie> perhaps your graphics card can't do that effect, Sophia?
[07:53] <_Sophia_> i have an NVIDIA 9600 GT card
[07:53] <xxmmaann> can you help me please?
[07:53] <_Sophia_> so i need to enable the card, maybe?
[07:54] <valorie> xxmmaann: I don't know anything about it -- have you tried googling the exact error message you get?
[07:55] <valorie> it's been years since I used totem
[07:55] <xxmmaann> yes
[07:55] <valorie> try xine or vlc, I guess
[07:55] <xxmmaann> i use totem for watching youtube video
[07:56] <valorie> Sophia, you could try running jockey
[07:56] <valorie> !jockey
[07:56] <howtoo> Hello, has anybody been able to successfully connect to an IMAP server running at MS Exchange 2010? I only get an error saying socket connection time out
[07:56] <valorie> silly bot.....
[07:56] <valorie> !imap
[07:57] <valorie> the bot doesn't know about jockey, but you just run it in the console
[08:01] <_Sophia_> o.o
[08:01] <_Sophia_> how do i do that? =P
[08:03] <valorie> how do you run something in a console?
[08:03] <valorie> well, for something simple like this, probably the easiest thing is to use the Kmenu
[08:04] <valorie> search for jockey, and choose run jockey
[08:04] <valorie> normally, I just use Konsole
[08:04] <tsimpson> you can just run it from the application menu, under system -> hardware drivers
[08:04] <valorie> but you won't need that for this
[08:04] <valorie> cool, I didn't know that
[08:05] <_Sophia_> o_O
[08:05] <valorie> I use the cli when I know what I'm doing
[08:05] <valorie> so much quicker
[08:05] <tsimpson> yeah, but some people don't live with at least one terminal open constantly ;)
[08:06] <valorie> right
[08:06] <_Sophia_> since switching to kubuntu i just leave the terminal open
[08:06] <_Sophia_> o_O
[08:06] <valorie> the more I use it, the more likely I am to have multiple tabs in konsole
[08:06] <tsimpson> I use Yakuake
[08:07] <valorie> I was going to try that in my netbook
[08:07] <valorie> but it opens with f12
[08:07] <tsimpson> you can configure that to whatever
[08:07] <valorie> netbook goes to f10
[08:07] <valorie> ah, I didn't see how to do that
[08:08] <_Sophia_> lol restart necessary for driver, brb
[08:09] <tsimpson> on the right hand side on the bottom of the yakuake window there are 3 buttons, the middle one opens the settings where you can configure the shortcut, or use system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> global keyboard shortcuts
[08:09] <tsimpson> select yakuake from the list, and change it there
[08:12] <_Sophia> i hath  returned =)
[08:12] <_Sophia> wait what
[08:12] <_Sophia> lol
[08:34] <_Sophia> jockey made it work
[08:34] <_Sophia> thanks =)
[08:38] <valorie> cool!
[08:58] <bigjools> Riddell: (or anyone) where do I report crash bugs about the packages in the backports PPA?
[08:58] <Peace-> bigjools: i guess there is not support for that
[08:59] <bigjools> not asking for support, just for somewhere to file bugs :)
[08:59] <bigjools> since these packages will form the basis of natty I presume
[08:59] <Peace-> backports are packages that are not supported
[08:59] <bigjools> I know
[08:59] <Peace-> so = no bugreport *i guess*
[09:00] <Peace-> not sure 100% , maybe 80%
[09:00] <Peace-> xD
[09:00] <bigjools> someone must surely care about plasma crashing?
[09:03] <Peace-> bigjools: distro version ?
[09:04] <bigjools> backports PPA on top of maverick
[09:08] <Peace-> bigjools: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maverick-backports/+bug/653619
[09:08] <Peace-> bigjools: i guess this ... ubuntu-bugs
[09:08] <Peace-> ubuntu-bug
[09:08] <Peace-> on terminal
[09:08] <valorie> they know about the crashing
[09:08] <bigjools> valorie: thank you
[09:08] <valorie> I get updates on the bugs daily
[09:08] <valorie> lol
[09:09] <bigjools> Amarok is bailing out too (and taking plasma with it), do they know about that? :)
[09:09] <valorie> yes
[09:09] <bigjools> excellent
[09:09] <bigjools> do you know the bug id?
[09:09] <valorie> oh, let me search my email
[09:09] <bigjools> thanks muchly
[09:10] <valorie> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258706
[09:11] <Peace-> bigjools: i am on natty...
[09:11] <Peace-> with kde 4.6.1
[09:11] <Peace-> doesnn't crash
[09:11] <Peace-> dunno :S
[09:11] <bigjools> thanks valorie
[09:11] <valorie> you are most welcome
[09:11] <bigjools> valorie: do you know the Amarok one too? :)
[09:11] <valorie> now that I have my laptop working again, I'm going to upgrade the netbook to natty
[09:12] <valorie> bigjools: that's the ssame one
[09:12] <bigjools> Peace-: different environments can provoke bugs differently
[09:12] <Peace-> valorie: it's alpha...
[09:12] <Peace-> bigjools: well... kernels is different
[09:12] <valorie> sure, but right now I don't need the netbook for anything important
[09:12] <Peace-> valorie: xD
[09:13] <valorie> I guess maybe I shouldn't tempt fate
[09:13] <valorie> but oh, I want to!
[09:14] <bigjools> ah valorie, I have a different amarok bug it seems
[09:15] <bigjools> something to do with it scanning the collection
[09:15] <Bars245> !ru
[09:16] <valorie> that's weird
[09:17] <valorie> you can run amarokcollectionscanner while amarok isn't running
[09:17] <valorie> and check the XML output
[09:17] <valorie> you might have some corrupt files, tags, etc.
[09:17] <valorie> doesn't usually cause crashes though
[09:17] <valorie> what version of amarok?
[09:18] <valorie> probably 2.4, if you are running backports
[09:18] <valorie> hmmm
[09:23] <bigjools> valorie: 2.4.0 yes.  I'll try the separate scanner, but it was fine under whatever version maverock had.
[09:23] <bigjools> maverick even
[09:24] <bigjools> yeah repeatable error when I hit "rescan collection"
[09:28] <valorie> amarok has it's own release schedule
[09:28] <valorie> not tied to Kubuntu, or KDE
[09:37] <Riddell> bigjools: here  https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa
[09:40] <bigjools> Riddell: thanks :)
[09:40] <valorie> sorry riddell, I was sure he had the same bug as me
[09:41] <valorie> :-)
[09:41] <bigjools> Riddell: BTW, it's funny how many people are trying out Kubuntu now they've seen Unity :D
[10:43] <bars245> !ru
[11:00] <robbiethe1st> Hey guys, I've got a weird problem: With kwin(compositing disabled) or compiz running, I'm getting little 'jerks' or dropped frames in my 3D rendering. without -any- window manager, the jerks go away.  How should I try to troubleshoot this?
[11:15] <robbiethe1st> I've got a 3D problem with Kwin/compiz and -not- with no WM running: http://robbiethe1st.afraid.org/images/linux/20110317_002.mp4
[11:19] <_Sophia> what should i use for rar and zip files? o_O
[11:19] <_Sophia> i'm thinking 7zip for zip stuff, but i have no idea about rar files
[11:22] <skramer_> _Sophia: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/p7zip-rar
[11:24] <robbiethe1st> _Sophia: If you install 'unrar', the default opener will open rar files.
[11:24] <robbiethe1st> Same with zip files, but it won't need anything special
[11:24] <_Sophia> what *is* the default opener? lol
[11:24] <robbiethe1st> ark
[11:24] <_Sophia> oic
[11:24] <_Sophia> i don't really like the look of ark
[11:24] <_Sophia> i assume there are alternatives?
[11:26] <robbiethe1st> erm, depends on what you want - I tend to use it directly or indrectly(through right-click extract here), or just use tar via the terminal for tar.gz and .bz2 files
[11:28] <_Sophia> um, also
[11:28] <_Sophia> i extracted the pdf from the rar and now the pdf is in the downloads folder, and i'm viewing it from dolphin
[11:28] <_Sophia> for some reason dolphin doesn't want to let me drag the pdf onto the desktop
[11:29] <robbiethe1st> Well, with KDE, you have two options for the desktop: One's the "widget dashboard", which allows you to put widgets but not files on it
[11:29] <ua2> hello eveybody
[11:30] <robbiethe1st> Including that window that's up in the upper left that's a "folder display widget"
[11:30] <robbiethe1st> You can ciertainly put the files in that
[11:30] <ua2> does anyone know how tu use pidgin on kubuntu please, thank you?
[11:30] <robbiethe1st> ua2: "sudo apt-get install pidgin"?
[11:30] <robbiethe1st> Just install iyt
you mean pidgin  work  on kubuntu also?
[11:31] <robbiethe1st> Uh, yea...
[11:32] <ua2> ok thank you
[11:32] <robbiethe1st> Just so you know, the only real difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu and Xubuntu is just the default desktop
[11:32] <masese> does anyone know how to install ZTEMT USB modem on kubuntu 10.04?
[11:32] <robbiethe1st> It -will- have to install the GTK libraries, but you can run KDE apps on Gnome and GTK apps on KDE
[11:32] <robbiethe1st> Fortinately, it will do it all for you
[11:33] <ua2> by the way , iam searching also for synaptic on kubuntu, is there equivalent?
[11:34] <_Sophia> o_O
[11:34] <robbiethe1st> Uh, install "synaptic"
[11:35] <ua2> i've alson install synaptic?
[11:35] <robbiethe1st> Or, kpackagekit is the equivalent if you want something different
[11:35] <robbiethe1st> That's the "default" one
[11:35] <ua2> should i install synaptic?
[11:35] <robbiethe1st> If you want. It's up to -you-
[11:35] <robbiethe1st> See, that's the thing about Linux - You don't have to choose between A or B - you can have either or both
[11:36] <robbiethe1st> Just because your desktop looks different doesn't mean you have to give up on Firefox, or any other app you want to use
[11:36] <ua2> you mean there's no possibility to install beside konsole?
[11:36] <robbiethe1st> Open kpackagekit?
[11:36] <_Sophia> lol robbiethe1st
[11:36] <robbiethe1st> It's in the main menu somewhere
[11:36] <_Sophia> like 99% of what i used to use in windows is available o_O
[11:37] <_Sophia> +everything is faster and more customizable :D
[11:37] <robbiethe1st> And most everything else can be run through Wine.
[11:37] <robbiethe1st> Heck, even FurMark works!
[11:38] <_Sophia> i still dunno how to get the pdf onto the desktop though x.x
[11:38] <robbiethe1st> Erm, don't you have a window up in the upper-left built "into" the desktop?
[11:38] <robbiethe1st> Drag it into that
[11:38] <_Sophia> yes
[11:38] <_Sophia> already tried that
[11:38] <_Sophia> won't let me ;o
thank you
[11:39] <robbiethe1st> Are you sure it's not already there?
[11:39] <robbiethe1st> scroll up/down and see
[11:39] <_Sophia> scroll up/down?
[11:39] <ua2> annother question please, do you know why i can not use youtube?
[11:39] <robbiethe1st> ua2: Install flash?
[11:40] <_Sophia> the 'desktop folder' only takes up a tiny bit of space o_O
[11:40] <robbiethe1st> It's "flashplugin-installer"
[11:40] <ua2> witch flash?
[11:40] <_Sophia> ua2, there's a package that installs flash with some other stuff
[11:40] <ua2> ok
[11:40] <_Sophia> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:40] <_Sophia> or something like that
[11:40] <robbiethe1st> _Sophia: Yes, you can change the size or make the entire desktop to the traditional icon-desktop
[11:40] <robbiethe1st> "flashplugin-installer"'s what you want for just flash
[11:40] <_Sophia> well yes, but i'm saying that the folder is the default size
[11:41] <ua2> so i have just to put on konsole, apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[11:41] <_Sophia> sudo apt-get
[11:41] <ua2> and tha's all?
[11:41] <_Sophia> i think o_O
[11:41] <ua2> _sophia>yes thank you
[11:41] <robbiethe1st> ua2: ye, that works
[11:42] <_Sophia> since i can't drag+drop
[11:42] <_Sophia> what other options do i have? could i send to trash and get it onto the desktop that way?
[11:43] <robbiethe1st> _Sophia: The Desktop folder is "/home/*username*/Desktop"
[11:43] <_Sophia> okay
[11:43] <_Sophia> so can i move it without using terminal or what? :p
[11:43] <robbiethe1st> Yea,
[11:44] <robbiethe1st> I'm not sure why drag+drop won't work
[11:44] <_Sophia> no idea either
[11:44] <robbiethe1st> But you can always open up a second dolphin window to that folder
[11:44] <_Sophia> i'll look it up and see if there are any common reasons
[11:44] <_Sophia> and i'm one step ahead of ya :P
[11:44] <_Sophia> yay
[11:44] <_Sophia> now it's in the desktop folder >_<
[11:45] <robbiethe1st> Yes
[11:45] <_Sophia> but i can't put it in the general desktop, outside of the folder? ;o
[11:45] <robbiethe1st> If you want the entire desktop to be "windows-like", you have to change a setting
[11:45] <_Sophia> well
[11:45] <_Sophia> i like the idea of desktop folders
[11:45] <_Sophia> like i can put all my programming stuff into one
[11:46] <_Sophia> but i would also like to be able to move files around easily
[11:46] <robbiethe1st> You can also add multiple widgets , size-shape them
[11:46] <robbiethe1st> click on the little yellow-orange icon in the upper-left
[11:46] <ua2> oes anyon know if i can use kopete for yahoo messenger?
[11:46] <robbiethe1st> Er, right
[11:46] <robbiethe1st> *upper-right
[11:47] <_Sophia> add widgets?
you think i can?
[11:47] <robbiethe1st> Sure, if you want
[11:47] <robbiethe1st> ua2: No clue. Pidgin does
[11:47] <ua2> ok, but why i put my pssword , it doesn't work?
[11:48] <_Sophia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopete wiki sez yes :)
[11:49] <ua2> don't know, why, anyway thanks a lot my sympatic peaple
[11:51] <_Sophia> o_O
[11:51] <_Sophia> *sympathetic?
[11:51] <_Sophia> lol
[11:51] <_Sophia> um, anyhoo
[11:51] <_Sophia> i think i should look for an alternative pdf reader to adobereader, since it is supposedly very bloated
[11:51] <_Sophia> any ideas?
[11:52] <robbiethe1st> um
[11:53] <robbiethe1st> Okular?
[12:01] <bars245> !ru
[12:05] <bars245> !ru
[12:12] <user_> !ru
[12:18] <_Sophia> robbiethe1st, okular is the default ;d
[12:18] <_Sophia> i don't really like it =)
[12:22] <archam> bulgarian
[12:22] <archam> skype for kubuntu 10.04
[12:23] <archam> help mi
[12:23] <Peace-> !skype
[12:23] <_Sophia> lol peace
[12:23] <Peace-> !bu | archam
[12:23] <_Sophia> those auto-snippets are useful :D
[12:23] <Peace-> !bulgarian | archam
[12:24] <Peace-> -.-
[12:24] <_Sophia> o.o
[12:24] <_Sophia> did it work? if not, maybe it's bul
[12:25] <archam> да оваче немога да я инсталирам тая програмка
[12:25] <Peace-> !ru | archam
[13:07] <_Sophia> could someone please help me with doing this?: http://toranbillups.com/blog/archive/2010/09/01/How-to-install-Rails-3.0-and-Ruby-1.9.2-on-Ubuntu
[13:07] <_Sophia> i'm sort of stuck :/
[13:07] <susundberg> at which point?
[13:11] <_Sophia> um
[13:11] <_Sophia> trying to install  RVM 1.0.1
[13:11] <_Sophia> i already dl'd  and extracted it, but i'm clueless beyond that
[13:13] <susundberg> But there is instructions on that page you pasted?
[13:13] <susundberg> :O
[13:14] <susundberg> No idea why they are installing rybu 1.8.7 and later ruby 1.9.2 though
[13:16] <susundberg> and there does exists some rails package on the package manager also .. "rails-ruby1.8 - MVC ruby based framework geared for web application development "
[13:16] <susundberg> (though seems like its not 3.0)
[13:17] <_Sophia> o_O
[13:18] <susundberg> this seems like more sane instruction: http://www.web2linux.com/05/installing-rails-3-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[13:18] <_Sophia> susundberg, idk how to install the RVM part, i'm stuck at 'extract the contents ... finished'
[13:18] <_Sophia> i'll look  at that too :/
[13:19] <susundberg> oh you mean the "tar xvzf rvm-1.0.1.tar.gz" instruction?
[13:19] <susundberg> its supposed to be run in konsole
[13:19] <susundberg> you might want to read some linux primer before continuing on that instruction
[13:19] <_Sophia> i  did run it in konsole
[13:20] <_Sophia> x.x
[13:20] <susundberg> and the problem is ?
[13:20] <susundberg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal <- might be usefull if you are not familiar with linux
[13:21] <_Sophia> 'cannot open, no such directory' :l
[13:21] <_Sophia> which makes me think i don't have the extracted file in the right place
[13:23] <_Sophia> x.x
[13:24] <susundberg> you see the tar command is to extract the package
[13:24] <susundberg> and yes, the file is not on the directory you are in
[13:24] <susundberg> please read the help.ubuntu.com page for basic instructions
[13:25] <_Sophia> i don't understand this line: extract the contents and cd into the extracted directory when finished
[13:25] <_Sophia> o_O
[13:26] <Alonea> anyone know of a temp fix for the brightness issue until the real fix comes out?
[13:26] <Alonea> _Sophia: extract basically means unzip in windows world. cd means change directory
[13:26] <_Sophia> i know what extract does :L i've had to do it in windows, and with kubuntu
[13:26] <Alonea> _Sophia: so unarchive it and go into it. What are you trying to do hun?
[13:27] <_Sophia> well, what i did is extract it but kept it in the same folder (downloads)
[13:27] <_Sophia> could that be the problem?
[13:27] <Alonea> _Sophia: what is it? I just got here
[13:27] <_Sophia> here, sec
[13:28] <_Sophia> http://toranbillups.com/blog/archive/2010/09/01/How-to-install-Rails-3.0-and-Ruby-1.9.2-on-Ubuntu
[13:28] <_Sophia> apparently i pretty much have to do this stuff
[13:28] <_Sophia> and i can't use  sudo when installing gems lol
[13:28] <susundberg> why not use the instructions i googled for you
[13:28] <susundberg> at least to me it seemed quite much more sane
[13:29] <susundberg> no installing first older version and then newer version
[13:29] <susundberg> i mean is there any particular reason to use _that_ instruction?
[13:29] <Alonea> susundberg: she is brand new to linux. its only been a day or two so a little patience. now...
[13:30] <Alonea> _Sophia: are you needing rails and ruby for development or something?
[13:30] <_Sophia> well  susundberg, both require the installation of RVM, which can get a little complicated (from my POV)
[13:31] <_Sophia> Alonea, yes o_O  I'm a Ruby, soon to be RoR developer
[13:31] <_Sophia> is the main reason i switched to Linux, there's like no support for Windows users in the Ruby or Rails community
[13:31] <susundberg> yes but the one you are originally using is twice as long :)
[13:31] <_Sophia> X_X
[13:32] <_Sophia> well, i guess i prefer it because it is self-contained. it is entirely possible that if i installed a part a different way that it wouldn't work with the rest of the things i'm trying to install.
[13:36] <Alonea> ok, that guide is pretty simple. lets get rvm and go from there
[13:37] <Alonea> _Sophia: it doesn't matter where the extracted folder is, though I would not stick it in Downloads, but somewhere else in your home directory for safe keeping in case you need it again
[13:37] <susundberg> Alonea: do you have any idea why to install first ruby 1.8 and then ruby 1.9
[13:37] <susundberg> ?
[13:37] <_Sophia> both are needed for different reasons, susundberg
[13:38] <_Sophia> some code is still 1.8.6 or 1.8.7, and some is the newest 1.9.2
[13:38] <Alonea> susundberg: nope. never done ruby, would just open up kpackagekit and install all that stuff after the rvm step
[13:38] <pider55> Can anyone help me to get rid of the ugly login screen on my computer, after installation of the Nvidia card driver, the login screen changes to not so nice screen!
[13:38] <_Sophia> realistically, both are needed
[13:38] <_Sophia> pider55, how did you install your drivers? jockey?
[13:38] <susundberg> Alonea, http://www.web2linux.com/05/installing-rails-3-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[13:39] <Alonea> _Sophia: ok, install rvm using your guide, do rest using his. its all good.
[13:39] <pider55> by addisional driver in Kubuntu 64 b
[13:40] <susundberg> i have also only heard of ruby on rails before .. but afaik usually newer version replaces the older version and older might be needed only to for some speciall case where some library is not updated ..
[13:40] <_Sophia> susundberg, ruby and ruby on rails are two different things
[13:40] <_Sophia> Ruby is a language, and Rails is a development framework
[13:41] <_Sophia> so yes, it's best to have the newest version of Rails, but for the language Ruby, a lot of code is still in 1.8, since 1.9 is pretty new
[13:41] <Alonea> echo -n 100 /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCDD/brightness...love how this doesn't fix my brightness because the scale is all messed up. so tempted to just rip out powerdevil and anything else related to power.
[13:41] <_Sophia> o.o
[13:42] <_Sophia> i haven't tried to adjust brightness yet =P
[13:42] <_Sophia> oh, i've thought of a good way to troll people with settings.  I should make sliding bars on a logarithmic scale
[13:42] <_Sophia> =)
[13:42] <Alonea> _Sophia: with "max": brightness I struggle to read the screen.
[13:43] <_Sophia> oh really?
[13:43] <_Sophia> my brightness hasn't really changed at all
[13:43] <_Sophia> using a laptop?
[13:43] <Alonea> _Sophia: my scale is messed up, it goes from dark, to dim, to dark, to dim, to slightly les dim.
[13:43] <_Sophia> so it's not smooth going from different windows?
[13:44] <_Sophia> your pixels become a bit overexcited? >_>
[13:44] <_Sophia> i'm sure there's some way to reduce the total range of light ;o
[13:44] <Alonea> _Sophia: like the scale from 0% to 100% is what I mean, in the brightness settings
[13:45] <Alonea> _Sophia: its not black at 0% and very bright at 100%
[13:45] <_Sophia> oh, so too bright?
[13:45] <_Sophia> :/
[13:45] <Alonea> _Sophia: it jumps around as you go up and there is no "bright", just dim
[13:46] <_Sophia> weird
[13:46] <Alonea> _Sophia: well its an issue that will be fixed in a month, but this is killing me
[13:46] <_Sophia> X_X
[13:47] <_Sophia> what will fix it?
[13:47] <Alonea> _Sophia: kubuntu people will fix it. not sure what broke it
[13:47] <_Sophia> lol
[13:48] <Alonea> _Sophia: kernel or power software i would say
[13:48] <_Sophia> oh
[13:48] <_Sophia> sure it has nothing to do with rendering settings?
[13:48] <Alonea> _Sophia: yes
[13:49] <Alonea> _Sophia: my screen is all the same brightness across.
[13:50] <_Sophia> weird
[13:51] <Alonea> _Sophia: basically the commands that would raise the backlight dont work right
[13:52] <_Sophia> oh
[13:52] <_Sophia> huh
[13:52] <_Sophia> so it looks dull?
[13:52] <_Sophia> also, found a much easier way to install the RVM thing =) :
[13:52] <Alonea> _Sophia: yeah, screen is very dim and hard to see
[13:52] <_Sophia> http://rvm.beginrescueend.com/rvm/install/ option 1, it just installs from github :D
[13:52] <_Sophia> (github is a central site and repository for Ruby/Rails developers)
[13:53] <pider55> _Sophia, did you get my answer
[13:53] <_Sophia> um, what minute =)
[13:53] <_Sophia> must have missed it Monsieur ;3
[13:54] <pider55> _Sophia by addisional driver in Kubuntu 64 b
[13:56] <_Sophia> additional driver?
[13:56] <_Sophia> i'm not sure how you installed it
[13:56] <pider55> yes
[13:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:57] <_Sophia> jockey worked fine for me, and NVIDIA has a reputation of just working with Linux
[13:57] <_Sophia> hi BluesKaj and apachelogger =)
[13:57] <_Sophia> i'm trying to install Rails and stuff
[13:57] <_Sophia> running into a little bit of difficulty ;d
[13:57] <BluesKaj> Hi _Sophia
[13:58] <pider55> _Sophia: I do not know what jockey is, but I try to find out
[13:58] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, using kpackagekit to install ?
[13:59] <Alonea> *cackles* I ripped out some software, rebooted, scale is still messed up, but it at least has max brightness as one of the things now. yay. I can see!
[14:00] <_Sophia> jockey should be default right guys? o_O
[14:00] <_Sophia> also, BluesKaj, no :/
[14:00] <_Sophia> supposedly i have to   do all this complicated stuff -_-
[14:01] <BluesKaj> pider55, jockey is the graphics installer in system settings / applications / additional hardware
[14:02] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, for apps like ruby on rails etc it's best to use the packagekit , easier to search for the right apps needed
[14:02] <_Sophia> http://rvm.beginrescueend.com/rvm/install/ i'm failing horribly at doing this (i'm trying to do it through github)
[14:02] <_Sophia> i'll try that at the same time =/
[14:02] <pider55> _Sophia: I do not know what jockey is, but I try to find out
[14:03] <_Sophia> system settings / applications / additional hardware
[14:03] <_Sophia> lol
[14:03] <BluesKaj> pider55, I just told you ,
[14:03] <_Sophia> here:
[14:03] <_Sophia> computer/system settings / applications / additional hardware/ jockey
[14:03] <_Sophia> that's the path
[14:03] <_Sophia> >_>
[14:03] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, I see you're catching on :)
[14:03] <_Sophia> o_O
[14:04] <_Sophia> sorta? i guess?
[14:04] <_Sophia> i retain information well
[14:05] <pider55> I used -system settings / applications / additional hardware when I installed my Nvidia driver, and my login scren truned ygly, I do not know how to fix it
[14:05] <_Sophia> the bunny here keeps trying to bite my calves :I
[14:06] <_Sophia> neurotic little thing
[14:06] <_Sophia> i'm going to try the RVM install again, and if i can't do it i'm requesting halp ;o
[14:07] <_Sophia> ~/.bash_profile <= what is that?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> _Sophia,RVM ?
[14:09] <_Sophia> Ruby Version Manager
[14:09] <_Sophia> but  i'm  thinking i may not need it
[14:09] <_Sophia> (or i'm telling myself that, because downloading it is a bitch)
[14:09] <_Sophia> o_O
[14:10] <_Sophia> !cake
[14:10] <_Sophia> lol the bot doesn't know about cake?!?!??!?!?
[14:10] <_Sophia> does the bot know happiness?
[14:10] <_Sophia> !happiness
[14:10] <_Sophia> [14:10] <_Sophia> =(
[14:11] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, do a search in the pckgkit and ccheck out the list that pops up
[14:12] <_Sophia> none of them are the RVM i'm talking about
[14:12] <_Sophia> i'm going to try to skip installing it though =)
[14:14] <BluesKaj> ok one more thing _Sophia , have you enabled the repositories in the packagekit , like canonical partneers etc , some of them aren't enabled by default due to legalities
[14:14] <_Sophia> um?
[14:14] <_Sophia> how can i check to see if i have? :D
[14:14] <_Sophia> i don't recall doing so
[14:14] <BluesKaj> that gives access to more applications
[14:14] <_Sophia> i see, well that is important to find out then >.<
[14:16] <_Sophia> BluesKaj?  ;d
[14:16] <BluesKaj> kmenu/ applications/system/kpackagekit
[14:19] <Alonea> !pi
[14:19] <_Sophia> i have 3 things unchecked
[14:21] <_Sophia> deb cdrom release amd64 , deb maverick backports , deb maverick partner
[14:21] <_Sophia> does having any of those three checked hold back kpackagekit at all? >_>
[14:24] <BluesKaj> enable them, _Sophia
[14:28] <Alonea> _Sophia: these are all the repos that have stuff like mp3 codecs and such as well. first thing I do when I install ubuntu systems is enable those
[14:28] <BluesKaj> and _Sophia , for media apps and supported libs , I would investigate medibuntu
[14:29] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | _Sophia
[14:30] <_Sophia> media apps? x.x
[14:30] <BluesKaj> and we can't forget kubuntu-restricted-extras , dunno if that was mentioned yet
[14:30] <BluesKaj> like codecs etc
[14:32] <_Sophia> kubuntu-restricted-extras is like the first thing i did lol
[14:32] <_Sophia> i think i installed flash using that?
[14:32] <_Sophia> or something right after that
[14:33] <_Sophia> for *some reason*, it isn't accepting my pw and letting me enable those three things in settings =I
[14:37] <BluesKaj> minmize kpackagekit , there's probly a dialog box asking for your pw , for some reson it opens behind the kpackage kit's GUI or in the taskbar only...sems like bug
[14:37] <BluesKaj> seems like bug to me
[14:38]  * BluesKaj pounds on the "a" key again
[14:38] <BluesKaj> aaaaaarrrrgh
[14:43] <CryojenX> Hi, I'm wondering what would be a decent tool to back up my entiire system, not just my home directory, I tried doing it once with Deja Dup but on trying to restore from a backup the attempt killed my system. I'd just hate to have to reinstall every package on my system in case of  a crash
[14:45] <_Sophia> i'm going to put off installing rails for a while, it seems to come with headaches
[14:45] <bars245> !ru
[14:45] <_Sophia> instead, i'm going to tweak gedit to be more like textmate =D
[14:45] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, gedit?
[14:46] <_Sophia> gEdit
[14:46] <_Sophia> text  editor? x.x
[14:46] <BluesKaj> kate is the default editor in kubuntu
[14:47] <BluesKaj> gedit is the gnome default editor, comes with gnome bagage
[14:47] <_Sophia> i know
[14:47] <_Sophia> but gEdit came installed with kubuntu
[14:47] <_Sophia> and is closer to textmate, according to others o_O
[14:48] <BluesKaj> gnome desktop=ubuntu. kubuntu (kde) desktop =kubuntu
[14:48] <BluesKaj> ok, it's your choice
[14:49] <BluesKaj> gedit doesn't come with kubuntu, somebody told you to install it
[14:50] <anon1> hello?
[14:50] <Peace-> anon1: hi
[14:50] <anon1> just checking this out
[14:51] <Peace-> xD
[14:51] <CryojenX> Hi, I'm wondering what would be a decent tool to back up my entiire system, not just my home directory, I tried doing it once with Deja Dup but on trying to restore from a backup the attempt killed my system. I'd just hate to have to reinstall every package on my system in case of  a crash
[14:51] <_Sophia> uh BluesKaj, you sure? :D
[14:51] <anon1> doesn't ubuntu already come with backup software?
[14:52] <_Sophia> and i know the difference between gnome and kde
[14:52] <_Sophia> i researched the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu before choosing kubuntu :p
[14:52] <CryojenX> i may have overlooked it
[14:55] <shane4ubuntu> CryojenX: honestly I use a tar script, works nice, there is a how to on the forums if you are interested.
[14:57] <CryojenX> ok thanks
[14:58] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, you could be right , but gedit isn't a native kde app , maybe I removed it during one of my gnome purges . I do that occasionally:)
[14:59] <_Sophia> o_O
[14:59] <_Sophia> now i'm trying to figure out how to make ruby1.9.2 default
[14:59] <_Sophia> since i have 1.8.7 installed, it takes it as default =(
[14:59]  * BluesKaj installs ubuntu-desktop occasionally to see what's happening on the darkside :)
[15:01] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, it's the stable version , the dev versions aren't included in the repositories unless you add the ruby development repository aka a ppa
[15:01] <_Sophia> 1.9.2 is stable
[15:01] <BluesKaj> !ppa
[15:02] <_Sophia> i accidentally installed 1.8.6 or w.e when doing the default install
[15:02] <_Sophia> i would imagine 1.9.2 is supported o_O!
[15:04] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, the default in the repos appears to be 1.9.1
[15:05] <_Sophia> oh
[15:05] <_Sophia> i need 1.9.2 :P
[15:05] <_Sophia> but i did somehow install 1.8.6
[15:05] <_Sophia> -_-
[15:05] <_Sophia> i am uninstalling right now
[15:05] <_Sophia> though
[15:05] <FloodBotK1> _Sophia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <_Sophia> sudo apt-get remove ruby
[15:05] <_Sophia> lol
[15:06] <_Sophia> now i can figure out how to install just 1.9.2, hopefully =)
[15:07] <BluesKaj> !aptoncd | CryojenX
[15:13] <BluesKaj> CryojenX, this app doesn't save your config files , unfortunately
[15:13] <CryojenX> oh
[15:14] <CryojenX> i can use deja dup for the config files
[15:14] <CryojenX> at least the personal ones
[15:32] <ybellaros> ff
[15:32] <mharmant> haha
[15:32] <mdupre> bande de blaireaux
[15:33] <mharmant> alcoolique
[15:33] <mdupre> ca marche
[15:33] <mdupre> ce soir on veut de l'alcool
[15:33] <BluesKaj> !fr | mharmant mdupre
[15:34] <mdupre> OK
[15:34] <mharmant> let's drink
[15:34] <mdupre> wouhou
[15:37] <_Sophia> o_O
[15:37] <_Sophia> can i have help getting my headphones to work? :)
[15:47] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, open a terminal and type alsamixer, make sure that your line outs are not muted (a M in the ctrl box means muted), use the M key to unmute or mute, , use the arrow keys to navigate and increase /decrease the volume.
[15:57] <_Sophia> okay, sec =)
[16:01] <suad> !amarok
[16:01] <suad> !codecs
[16:03] <suad> !ati
[16:05] <_Sophia> it won't let me run alsamixer
[16:05] <_Sophia> maybe i don't have it? :(
[16:09] <Alonea> _Sophia: you should have it.its installed by default
[16:10] <Alonea> _Sophia: you know about tab complete in the terminal? type in alsa, and press tab
[16:10] <Alonea> _Sophia: you might have to press tab a couple times, but you should see a list, one of which is alsamixer
[16:16] <CryojenX> thanks for the help, backup is now speeding along
[16:18] <_Sophia> sec o_O
[16:18] <Peace-> _Sophia: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/17/plasma_howto-throw-ball________.gif
[16:19] <_Sophia> thanks Peace :D
[16:20] <Peace-> _Sophia: M to activate
[16:20] <Peace-> arrows to move
[16:21] <_Sophia> O_O
[16:21] <_Sophia> still have to figure this out :P
[16:23] <_Sophia> it says i have alsamixer
[16:23] <_Sophia> cuz i put in whereis alsamixer and got a path x.x
[16:25] <Alonea> _Sophia: should be able to type in alsamixer and press enter. what happens?
[16:25] <_Sophia> i executed it from within Konsole
[16:26] <_Sophia> is in the same window
[16:26] <_Sophia> um, found headphones
[16:26] <_Sophia> they're muted by default
[16:26] <_Sophia> but now i am in the box above them and only one of the two characters is highlighted
[16:26] <_Sophia> which makes me feel like i messed something up :/
[16:26] <_Sophia> item:  Headphone [on, off]
[16:26] <_Sophia> what? :S
[16:30] <Alonea> _Sophia: well, the headphones can't be on and off at the same time
[16:30] <_Sophia> certainly
[16:30] <_Sophia> i figured out how to fix that
[16:30] <_Sophia> but how to increase volume? :/
[16:31] <_Sophia> < > left right up down are not working
[16:31] <Alonea> _Sophia: arrow up
[16:31] <_Sophia> x.x
[16:31] <_Sophia> what
[16:31] <_Sophia> O_O
[16:31] <FloodBotK1> _Sophia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:31] <_Sophia> nou!
[16:32] <Alonea> _Sophia: left and right arrow keys go between the different channels, up and down increases/decreases volume. M mutes and unmutes
[16:33] <_Sophia> huh
[16:33] <_Sophia> OH
[16:33] <_Sophia> i'm using m to select
[16:33] <_Sophia> duh
[16:33] <_Sophia> sec -_-
[16:33] <FloodBotK1> _Sophia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <_Sophia> lol still failing :/
[16:35] <Alonea> umm..press ESC and start over, you may have done something else
[16:35] <_Sophia> okay
[16:38] <Alonea> _Sophia: better?
[16:39] <_Sophia> question, if i just go into alsamixer and use the up arrow, it should work, right? :/
[16:39] <_Sophia> because it isn't doing anything
[16:39] <_Sophia> numpad  up arrow isn't doing anything either
[16:39] <macs> hi all
[16:39] <macs> need a litle help... new around here...
[16:41] <Alonea> _Sophia: do  you have numlock on or something?
[16:41] <_Sophia> lol
[16:41] <_Sophia> lets find out :P
[16:41] <_Sophia> don't think so >.<
[16:42] <Alonea> macs: can't help if you don't as a question
[16:42] <macs> just installed op and i`ve created a new user
[16:42] <macs> but i would like to change it and to tell the truth... google does not really helps about this... :)
[16:43] <Alonea> macs: change the username to a different name?
[16:43] <macs> yes, with configs... group and all
[16:43] <macs> username only i guess
[16:45] <_Sophia> Alonea, the up arrow increases the volume on other things, but not for headphones O_O
[16:50] <Alonea> _Sophia: is there a MM under headphones? are headphones plugged in?
[16:51] <_Sophia> above headphones is 00
[16:51] <_Sophia> and they're plugged in, also USB ;o
[16:58] <_Sophia> :S
[17:01] <Alonea> _Sophia: usb is finicky. I could get the mic on my headset to work, but not the headphones
[17:02] <_Sophia> X_X
[17:02] <_Sophia> my computer knows the headphones are there though
[17:02] <Alonea> _Sophia: hell they are finicky on windows for me as well
[17:02] <Alonea> _Sophia: same.
[17:02] <_Sophia> they are an option for me in phenom or whatever it is called
[17:02] <_Sophia> when you choose priority for sound
[17:03] <_Sophia> was the first thing i did, to try to fix headphones x.x
[17:03] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, with alsamixer open in the terminal , f4 , then increase the volume on the capture ctrls , that should be your usb headphone vol ctrls
[17:04] <BluesKaj> navigate to the capture ctrls
[17:04] <_Sophia> increase the volume of capture, capture 1, and capture 2?
[17:04] <_Sophia> capture has volume but 1 & 2 do not
[17:05] <BluesKaj> yes _Sophia til you figure out which is the USB
[17:05] <_Sophia> well i'm listening to music, but i dunno if that will cause any problem with figuring it out =)
[17:05] <_Sophia> i always listen to music >_>
[17:06] <_Sophia> i increased the volume of capture 1 and 2
[17:06] <_Sophia> now what?
[17:06] <Alonea> BluesKaj: see, why can't I plug in headphones, get sound from those and have mic work and have linux automatically mute the speakers. This used to work in linux years ago, but not anymore. whether it be usb or non usb
[17:06] <BluesKaj> then increase the capture vol, _Sophia
[17:07] <Snapux> holaa
[17:07] <_Sophia> capture was on 100 before i increased capture 1 & 2 to 100
[17:07] <Snapux> me gustaria pasar de ubuntu a kubunti pero..
[17:07] <Snapux> me hago un lio
[17:07] <Alonea> Snapux: english only in here. what language?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> check the HP volcontrol or switches if there are any
[17:08] <Snapux> okis
[17:08] <Snapux> ok
[17:08] <Alonea> Snapux: !es
[17:08] <Snapux> spanish
[17:08] <Snapux> ok
[17:08] <Snapux> ;)
[17:08] <Alonea> !es
[17:09] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, open another terminal and do, sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[17:09] <BluesKaj> Alonea, do the same
[17:10] <_Sophia> okay o_O
[17:12] <Alonea> BluesKaj: ok
[17:12] <Alonea> BluesKaj: do I need to reboot now?
[17:14] <Alonea> BluesKaj: my built in mic also would not work before as well, will this fix it?
[17:14] <BluesKaj> Alonea, dunno, it should just work
[17:15] <BluesKaj> Alonea, laptop ? yes it should
[17:15] <Alonea> BluesKaj: yeah, the built in mic would not work before. will have to test here in a moment
[17:16] <Alonea> BluesKaj: still going through speakers instead of headphones
[17:17] <Alonea> BluesKaj: doesn't even seem to register headphones now. lemme reboot. brb
[17:18] <BluesKaj> getting rid of pulseaudio doesn't fix all audio problems, I'm afraid , but it sure helps in a lot of cases
[17:19] <BluesKaj> USB headphones can be problematic on (k)ubuntu, that
[17:20] <BluesKaj> 's whay I prefer the miniplug variety
[17:22] <Alonea> BluesKaj: well, its registerings as Logitech USB, but no sound from it
[17:22] <_Sophia> ;o?
[17:22] <BluesKaj> Alonea, lsusb ?
[17:23] <Berenbet> Hey, I want to make another user, but I can't! I press the button Create on Users and it dont do anything!
[17:23] <Alonea> BluesKaj: Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:0a0c Logitech, Inc. Clear Chat Comfort USB Headset
[17:23] <_Sophia> what did i miss? :/ the window looked like i was still logged in but nothing was happening :s
[17:23] <Alonea> BluesKaj: what even stranger is the volume control on the usb headset works...for the speakers
[17:24] <BluesKaj> Alonea, try the capture volume ctrls is all I can suggest , try this to see if you're getting any audio at all, speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -t wav
[17:25] <Alonea> BluesKaj: I gotta go to a different building here for class, so I gotta go for a short bit
[17:25] <Alonea> BluesKaj: no longer have those. I have 2 tabs now
[17:25] <Alonea> BluesKaj: HDA Intel and Logitech USB
[17:25] <BluesKaj> Alonea, f4 in alsamixer
[17:26] <Alonea> BluesKaj: well, I am not getting sound from headphones and I would rather get that working
[17:26] <quant> hi, when I'm scrolling a window in firefox the flash video gets totally torn and messed up - using kubuntu 10.10, kde 4.6, proprietary ati driver, adobe flash
[17:27] <Alonea> quant: try chrome? had issues with ff on here, but then I have a lowly netbook
[17:27] <quant> Alonea: same thing in rekonq
[17:27] <Alonea> quant: rekonq actually works and does things??? *is shocked*
[17:28] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, open a terminal again and try this , a gui should pop and you can configure that , then you'll need to reboot. sudo gstreamer-properties
[17:28] <Alonea> ok, brb folks
[17:28] <quant> any ideas, please?
[17:29] <_Sophia> this = , ? O_O
[17:30] <BluesKaj> quant, default flash from flashplugin-installer or one you compiled or installed from the adobe site?
[17:30] <quant> BluesKaj: default proprietary flash
[17:31] <BluesKaj> quant, run sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer , it should update your version , remove it and install the latest one
[17:31] <_Sophia> uh BluesKaj, music  is broken =/
[17:31] <BluesKaj> or remove it
[17:32] <_Sophia> also i have no idea what you're telling  me to do o_O
[17:32] <quant> BluesKaj: ok, doing it
[17:34] <_Sophia> BluesKaj the command you gave doesn't work o_O
[17:34] <pider55> Can anyone help me to get rid of the ugly login screen on my computer, after installation of the Nvidia card driver, the login screen changes to not so nice screen!
[17:34] <quant> BluesKaj: same thing... no change
[17:35] <quant> BluesKaj: it does work with effect off, though... but I want effects on
[17:35] <ChrisGagnon> pider55: see http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[17:37] <BluesKaj> _Sophia,  do you mean , sudo gstreamer-properties ?
[17:37] <_Sophia> yes
[17:37] <_Sophia> doesn't work
[17:37] <_Sophia> will try one more time :/
[17:37] <pider55> ChrisGagnon: I have tried that but, cannot find :etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[17:38] <raamee> hi
[17:38] <_Sophia> BluesKaj : sudo: gstreamer-properties: command not found
[17:38] <raamee> I am new to IRC,so you are moree techies?
[17:39] <BluesKaj> sorry _Sophia , is your USB headphone plugged in ?
[17:39] <BluesKaj> make sure it is
[17:39] <ChrisGagnon> did you install initramfs-tools? 'sudo apt-get install initramfs-tools'
[17:40] <pider55> no; i will try that
[17:43] <_Sophia> yes it is o_O
[17:44] <_Sophia> so now  what? :)
[17:46] <pider55> ChrisGagnon: thanks very much!!
[17:48] <Alonea> ok back
[17:49] <ChrisGagnon> pider55: np :)
[17:50] <_Sophia> :/
[17:50] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, run lsusb , and you can then derive from that info for a driver since it's classed as a capture device. I bet you got a cd with it for installing the device on windows , or windows auto installed the driver when you first plugged in the headphones
[17:52] <_Sophia> i *did* have a  CD
[17:52] <_Sophia> though i doubt i have it now
[17:53] <_Sophia> Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 006: ID 046d:0a0c Logitech, Inc. Clear Chat Comfort USB Headset Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 002: ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. LX710 Cordless Desktop Laser Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b
[17:54] <_Sophia> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[17:54] <_Sophia> k lol, now what :)?
[17:54] <BluesKaj> whatwas the output from the lsusb command , just paste the audio one ,not the others
[17:54] <_Sophia> Bus 006 Device 006: ID 046d:0a0c Logitech, Inc. Clear Chat Comfort USB Headset
[17:58] <BluesKaj> aha _Sophia looks like you need pulseaudio for that , sudo apt-get install pulseaudio padevchooser paman
[18:00] <_Sophia> -_-
[18:00] <_Sophia> sigh
[18:00] <_Sophia> why did i uninstall it then :(
[18:01] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, that's about all Ican advise at this time
[18:01] <_Sophia> okay
[18:01] <_Sophia> well
[18:01] <_Sophia> reinstalling it
[18:01] <_Sophia> what then? :I
[18:01] <FloodBotK1> _Sophia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:02] <BluesKaj> I din't know your HPs were USB, they're a diff kettle of fish  than I'm used to
[18:03] <_Sophia> i said they were USB in front of you before =P
[18:03] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, check the apps in the kmenu, not sure exactly where the PA manager GUI is located , and try to set things up from there .
[18:04] <_Sophia> PAmanager? ;o
[18:04] <BluesKaj> Pulse Audio manager
[18:05] <_Sophia> 'Pulse Audio Manager' has 0 results
[18:05] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, yeah , but I thought USB would be less complicated
[18:05] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, look in the kmenu ?
[18:06] <_Sophia> am looking for it in settings
[18:06] <BluesKaj> look in system or even media
[18:07] <_Sophia> isn't in Phonon
[18:08] <Alonea>  BluesKaj: I had the same (i think) headphones as her, so I gotta put it back too?
[18:08] <BluesKaj> BBL , gotta go do some errands etc
[18:08] <BluesKaj> Alonea, yeah
[18:09] <surix16> Hi.. I am using kde4.5.1. How much GB has to be downloaded to upgrade to 4.6?
[18:10] <_Sophia> how much GB will it take, you mean?   O_O
[18:10] <friese> should be less than 1
[18:10] <friese> dont exactly know
[18:10] <_Sophia> lol Alonea :/
[18:10] <_Sophia> i'm sure the differences in size are public knowledge :P
[18:11] <surix16> _Sophia: yeah.. How much Gb? or in mb?
[18:12] <surix16> _Sophia: Why because my net connection doesnot have high bandwith support!
[18:14] <_Sophia> http://www.kde.org/info/4.5.1.php ; http://www.kde.org/info/4.6.1.php
[18:14] <_Sophia> o_O
[18:14] <_Sophia> google is your fwend :3
[18:14] <Alonea> BluesKaj: I read something somewhere where they recompiled the kernel with usb audio support and it all worked, but then there was no date on this
[18:17] <_Sophia> well i've made my speakers work again
[18:17] <_Sophia> but headphones are still earmuffs :l
[18:22] <_Sophia> maybe i can change headphone volume level from command line? :)
[18:22] <Alonea> _Sophia: they are very comfy earmuffs though
[18:23] <_Sophia> sorta ;o
[18:24] <karim__> salut tlm
[18:32] <blackplague1347> Has anyone installed Firefox 4 on their system? I'm trying to do so, but can't seem to figure out how.
[18:35] <Alonea> blackplague1347: download from ff website, unarchive, click on the executable and there ya go
[18:36] <blackplague1347> Alonea: Executable?
[18:36] <Alonea> blackplague1347: yes, let me see what the filename is for ya. one sec
[18:36] <blackplague1347> Alonea: Sure. Thanks.
[18:38] <Alonea> blackplague1347: its just called "firefox" its a shell script.
[18:39] <blackplague1347> Alonea: I opened it. That's it? It's installed?
[18:39] <Alonea> blackplague1347: its precompiled. you may want to add it to your KMenu with the Menu Editor
[18:40] <blackplague1347> Alonea: What should the command be? Just "firefox"?
[18:40] <tsktsk> I have tried a million different ways to stream vlc to my website. ive searched the hell out of google and docs for vlc. i can display it locally, and i see its streaming as a .bin file but i cant get it to play on my site.. anyone else had this problem ?
[18:41] <Alonea> blackplague1347: just give it the full path to that firefox file and it should work
[18:44] <blackplague1347> Alonea: Wow, thanks so much. I was trying to follow these instructions https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Installing Firefox on Linux, which wouldn't work. I was literally bashing my head off of my desk out of frustration.
[18:44] <Alonea> blackplague1347: yeah, I MUCH prefer getting firefox from them. not the repos
[18:46] <blackplague1347> Alonea: I would have settled for FF4 from the repos if I could have found it, but I couldn't. Actually, while we're sort of on the subject, is there an easy way to update the package lists in KPackageKit?
[18:47] <tsktsk> i have tried metafile director or embedding vlc stream on website but none has worked! any ideas??
[18:48] <Alonea> blackplague1347: they should update all the time, but realize that FF doesn't control the repo. So it doesn't have the latest software for some things
[18:48] <BluesKaj> _Sophia, alt+f2 paman, see what pops up.
[18:48] <Alonea> blackplague1347: under my settings I have it update daily
[18:49] <blackplague1347> Alonea: Sorry, wrong choice of words on my part. I meant refresh, not update. As in, fetch the package lists.
[18:50] <Alonea> blackplague1347: Go to Software Updates and click the button at the top
[18:50] <Alonea> blackplague1347: the "Check for new Updates" button
[18:50] <blackplague1347> Alonea: Ah, okay. Thanks. I haven't used KDE much, so a lot of this is new to me.
[18:51] <Alonea> blackplague1347: same, it doesn't help they keep changing the UI every few months it seems.
[18:52] <blackplague1347> Alonea: Yeah. I changed to the "oxygen" theme because text always looks better on a dark background. This was all well and good until I installed and opened up Eclipse. I can't read anything. The syntax highlighting doesn't work very well with the dark background.
[18:55] <Alonea> blackplague1347: haven't loaded up my Eclipse yet
[18:57] <blackplague1347> Alonea: I just installed it today. Still using the Galileo release. Guess they don't update the repos much? Either way, while it was downloading I used Kate to do my coding and it was very nice looking.
[18:58] <Alonea> blackplague1347: I always get Eclipse from their website. its same as FF. you don't have to "install" it
[19:30] <KeyKay> hello, where can I find (working) mail-notifier plasmoid?
[20:12] <Siegfried> !codec
[20:39] <yare> alguien habla español
[20:41] <areichman> !es | yare
[22:21] <max_sme> @yare
[22:30] <Macer> hm. is there a way to get these printers set up without running systemsettings as root?
[22:31] <Macer> it seems as though the printer module requires root in order to configure a network printer
[22:54] <u19809> Hi all I have this logitech dinovo keyboard that regulary does not detect key presses or key releases cause heavoc in my typing . Is there a fix for this ? I run Kubuntu 10.10 64 bit
[23:18] <Macer> is there a way to update the flash player in rekonq?
[23:18] <Macer> it was working for a while but of course with adobe's weekly update of flash player (which has no tangible improvements) it has stopped working
[23:19] <majster> hello ;)
[23:23] <Macer> is there no way to do it?
[23:24] <Macer> i know there is a ff plugin but i would rather stick with rekonq than have to install ff (which i am not too fond of)
[23:24] <Macer> rekonq's flash player was working good :( now it doesn't work at all
[23:25] <areichman> Macer: I don't know about rekonq but when I was using konqueror I would download the plugin from adobe, extract the .so file (I think it's libflashplayer.so) and put it in one of the places konqueror would look for plugins
[23:25] <areichman> you could download a new version of the plugin whenever you want and just replace the .so
[23:26] <Macer> areichman: any idea where i keps the?  will see if i can do that
[23:27] <areichman> where what is kept?
[23:27] <Macer> the .so for the plugins for rekonq
[23:32] <areichman> Macer: I can't find a plugin settings section in rekonq but I'd guess it uses the same settings from konqueror
[23:32] <areichman> I use /home/aaron/.mozilla/plugins/
[23:33] <areichman> konqueror checks the firefox plugins directory. so give that a shot
[23:34] <Macer> i never installed mozilla ;)
[23:35] <Macer> so i don't have a .mozilla dir
[23:35] <areichman> I don't usually either, I have to create the directory manually
[23:35] <Macer> wow that sucks heh
[23:35] <Macer> ok i will give it a shot
[23:35] <areichman> even if the directory doesn't exist, it's one of a few hardcoded directories in konq where it looks
[23:36] <areichman> haha, there are a ton of other places it'll look. If you have konqueror the list is in the plugins section of the settings dialog. I just use the firefox ones in case I need to install it later for something.
[23:38] <Macer> well. i'll be damned
[23:38] <Macer> that worked :) thanks
[23:38] <areichman> welcome. Enjoy.
[23:47] <jessica_> Hello, i'm trying to upgrade from a pre-release kubuntu 10.04 to 10.10.  I selected normal releases, but when trying to upgrade, I get an Error "Could not calculate the upgrade".  How can I fix this?
[23:53] <areichman> jessica_: did you try upgrading to the release version of 10.04? Upgrades in general can be difficult and upgrading from a pre-release even more so
[23:54] <jessica_> areichman: yes i went from 8.04 today to 9.10
[23:54] <jessica_> from 9.10 to 10.04
[23:55] <jessica_> but I had the pre-release option checked
[23:55] <jessica_> I think that is screwing it up, but how would I correct this?
[23:56] <areichman> I'm not sure. Usually when you're running a pre-release and an update comes out you're prompted to install it. I take it that isn't happening?
[23:56] <jessica_> actually yes, when I selected Normal Release, it did come up asking me to upgrade
[23:56] <jessica_> But then I get that error when it's organizing the packages to install
[23:58] <areichman> I'm not sure to fix that. I usually do clean installs to avoid things like that. I'm impressed you made it from 8.04 to 10.04
[23:58] <areichman> is a clean install an option for you?