[13:55] <vin> hi
[13:56] <vin> the installation broke down
[13:56] <vin> how can I get into the TTY
[13:56] <vin> I have no default username/password
[14:41] <lil_pete> vin: you can mount the filesystem on another linux machine, chroot into it and do $passwd <username>
[14:42] <lil_pete> you can do even more stuff using qemu: http://wiki.debian.org/QemuUserEmulation
[15:10] <lil_pete> hey guys can somebody tell me how to install cross-compiled modules?  i cant use make install... can i? :-/
[15:10] <lil_pete> (im talking about non-kernel modules)
[15:11] <lil_pete> ((meaning its a driver that isnt included in the kernel)) :D
[16:02] <ogra_> GrueMaster, how does your panel crash ?
[16:02] <ogra_> works fine for me
[16:02] <GrueMaster> Not sure of the nature of it yet, but it dies & respawns continuously atm.
[16:03] <GrueMaster> could be the resolution.
[16:03] <ogra_> ah, yeah, i remember something that requires 800px with
[16:04] <ogra_> *width
[16:04] <ogra_> you shouldnt see gnome-panel at all though
[16:04] <ogra_> did you explicitly pick gnome-session at gdm ?
[16:05] <GrueMaster> Well, whatever is generating the top panel is respawning.
[16:05] <ogra_> thats unity-2d-panel
[16:05] <ogra_> (Qt app)
[16:05] <GrueMaster> Tomato tomato.
[16:13] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: issue we had was with gnome-panel
[16:13] <rsalveti> and not unity-2d-panel, so it's probably a different bug this time
[16:13] <GrueMaster> Yea I know.  Still, same visual effect.
[16:14] <ogra_> does it go away if you use a higher res ?
[16:15] <GrueMaster> Don't know.  Just rebooting with the fix now.
[16:15] <GrueMaster> nope.
[16:16] <GrueMaster> Hmmm.  Why is there a /home/buildd dir?
[16:18] <ogra_> that shouldnt be there
[16:18]  * rsalveti lunch
[16:19] <GrueMaster> It's on the image I downloaded.  Very odd.
[16:19] <ogra_> i see it here too
[16:19] <GrueMaster> Thought it might have been a glitch in the SD.
[16:19] <GrueMaster> ok
[16:19]  * ogra_ just copies a loop mounted natty netbook into the ac100 
[16:20] <ogra_> there is only the homedir though, no user
[16:24] <ogra_> root@isis:/# dpkg -S /home/buildd
[16:24] <ogra_> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /home/buildd
[16:25] <ogra_> doesnt come from a package (would have surprised me)
[16:27] <ogra_> not in any postinst either
[16:32] <GrueMaster> ls
[16:32] <GrueMaster> gah
[16:33] <GrueMaster> I think I know why the bug reports are broken.  There is a chromium-browser bug that the script is failing on.
[16:33] <ogra_> oh?
[16:34] <ogra_> how can that be
[16:39] <GrueMaster> Hmm.  Not related.  Working with Brian now.
[17:44] <GrueMaster> The unity-2d-panel issue appears to be sound related (figures).
[17:46] <GrueMaster> dmesg has a long list of "asoc: no valid backend routes for PCM:  SDP4430 Media" and .xsession-errors shows libsoundmenu.so is respawning.
[19:54] <GrueMaster> Interesting.  This issue is omap4 only (beaglexm works fine).
[19:57] <rsalveti> dual core?
[19:58] <janimo> which issue?
[20:01] <GrueMaster> janimo: The libsoundmenu respawn issue.  And I am not sure yet if it is dual core related.  That is my next step, although I doubt it.
[20:01] <janimo> ah, I am not uptodate with U-2d related bugs
[20:01] <janimo> I think I should test that too again
[20:02] <GrueMaster> This is new as of today's image.
[20:02] <janimo> I found both compiz an u-2d frustrating to use on x86
[20:02] <janimo> so did not even tried to use it on arm
[20:02] <GrueMaster> And I didn't see it yesterday when updating an older image.
[20:02] <janimo> GrueMaster, there were again libindicator related updates since yesterday, is the soundmenu among them?
[20:04] <GrueMaster> Might be.  Let me work to dig deeper for a bit.
[20:04] <GrueMaster> Need food atm.
[22:03] <GrueMaster> After much digging (mainly in the dark), it appears that the schema from indicator-sound is not being properly registered.
[22:05] <ogra_> GrueMaster, i claimed the flash-kernel doesnt respect double dash notiation bug back
[22:06] <ogra_> will work on that during the flash-kernel reworking
[22:06] <GrueMaster> ok.  Are you actually going to fix it?  It has been there since karmic.
[22:06] <GrueMaster> ok
[22:08] <ogra_> its a pretty big task and bound to architectural design changes for flash-kernel-installer
[22:08] <ogra_> i always planned to work on it ... currently we dont use live or d-i images so its not pressing
[22:09] <GrueMaster> I'm just trying to whittle down open bugs.
[22:10] <GrueMaster> btw:  I am making some progress on the unity-2d-panel respawn.  It so far appears to be indicator-sound update.
[22:10] <GrueMaster> I'm getting ready to backrev and see if it still fails.
[22:11] <GrueMaster> It is not smp related, but it is omap4 specific (runs fine on beaglexm).
[22:14] <ogra_> try linking the binary of indicator-sound to /bin/true ;)
[22:14] <ogra_> runs fine here too
[22:14] <ogra_> even with broken sound in the kernel
[22:15] <GrueMaster> Looks like there is a new version as of 3 hours ago.  Will try it first.
[22:16] <GrueMaster> I have a feeling something broke in the newer releases for the postinst, as upgrading from 20110311 works fine.
[22:17] <ogra_> fun
[22:17] <ogra_> its probably the buildd user that broke it :P
[22:17] <GrueMaster> heh
[22:17]  * ogra_ really has no clue where that could come from
[22:18] <GrueMaster> Simple.  A botched update to the posinst script or a bad tweak to the schema.xml file.  The old settings would be still valid.
[22:18] <ogra_> i was referring to /home/buildd
[22:19] <GrueMaster> Oh, that.
[22:20] <GrueMaster> Hmm.  Looks like all of the com.canonical.indicator.* schemas may be hosed.  Updating indicator-sound got passed it's issue, now datetime failes.
[22:21] <GrueMaster> (as does my typing)
[22:21] <ogra_> weird
[22:21] <ogra_> i'm using an omap3 image here, freshly installed on the ac100
[22:22] <ogra_> (with rolled back libc but no other modifications)
[22:22] <ogra_> apart from the g-s-d breakage all seems to be fine
[22:23] <GrueMaster> I can't really consider running on a non-supported system with a non-supported image completely valid.  Besides, it also works fine on my beaglexm
[22:23] <ogra_> pfft
[22:23] <ogra_> userspace is always the same
[22:24] <GrueMaster> There can always be subtle hardware differences.
[22:24] <ogra_> as long as you have all kernel options it should be fine
[22:24] <ogra_> which we need to cover :)
[22:24] <GrueMaster> Not up to us to validate hardware.
[22:24] <GrueMaster> yet
[22:25] <ogra_> up to us to make sure userspace runs on all v7 HW
[22:25] <ogra_> which is one of the reasons to not hard build with NEON enabled
[22:25] <GrueMaster> Then give me more v7 systems to test on.  Otherwise I can't comment on failures for which I have no hardware.
[22:25] <ogra_> imho we all should have ac100s and efikas
[22:26] <GrueMaster> Well, that I'll definitely agree to.  :D
[22:26] <ogra_> just to be able to validate
[22:26] <ogra_> i'm considering buying a second one ... i just found out the 3G version is available for 199€ now
[22:27] <ogra_> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/66592855/20110317-ubiquity-sarcasm.png
[22:27] <GrueMaster> Not bad.  Wish I had the $$$ to spend.
[22:27]  * ogra_ grins